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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Thirteen ten wy me and ask the experts brought to
you by Hamsarburcare online Hamsarburcare dot com. That's h A
m ms arborcare dot com. Great website to learn more
about Hamsarborcare all the great things they can do for
you and you're trees and of course you can give
them a call also eight eight six sixty five nine
(00:31):
six five three nine six. That's eight six six five
nine six five three nine six. Great time here to
get on the schedule at Hamsarborcare mention the website Hamsarborcare
dot com. Another great website is gameoftrees dot com. That's
gameoftrees dot com. Got some really cool stuff up on
that website as well. Again that's Game of Trees dot com.
And joined us this morning from Hamsarborcare is master arborist
(00:54):
Kevin Ham. Kevin, how you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Doing great, Shawn? A little bit of drizzle going on
this morning, but yeah, too bad.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Not too bad at all. And uh, I mentioned the
website Game of Trees dot com and I know, of
course you've got a Game of Trees YouTube channel which
is hugely popular and uh and there's always really good
content down there. Obviously, the type of work that you
do is is super interesting, and the type of projects
you guys encounter is very interesting. But also you and
(01:23):
the guys it's always it's always very engaging as well.
And I know I know that, uh, you know, for
a lot of folks, they're kind of one of their
big media consumption platforms is social media. And I had
seen that interesting uh tree, because now that I've you know,
followed Game of Trees and others, they automatically get suggested
other other videos. And I saw this this giant tree
(01:45):
limb that somebody had taken down hanging over a house,
and they had some the rigs set up so when
the tree came off, it kind of the limb like
swung around and then as they said it it like
placed perfectly on the grass. I said, that seems like
something Kevin would be doing. And so I messaged you,
and you said, well, we've done similar stuff like this,
(02:06):
and you've also recently encountered some situations where folks really
should have had these type of projects done. Let's talk
before we get into kind of seasonal stuff, let's really
quick talk about some of the cool stuff you guys
are able to do with your tools and techniques at
Hams Arbacare when it comes to maintaining trees.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, you know, most of the time when we're rigging,
we're rigging onto a single rope. So we're either we're
the tip tying a piece and listing it to a
pulley in which case it hangs vertically and then or
we're tying onto a piece and then dropping it negatively,
(02:43):
you know, to a pulley below the piece and it
is caught but then hangs vertically. Well, in both those situations,
you know you need for the lift, you need vertical clearance.
You know, there can't be anything above you. Occasionally you're
removing a limb that's maybe a horizontal limb over a
(03:06):
house and you have branches above it, so you can't
lift it and it'd be tedious. You'd be lowering it
to the roof or something like that. Well, you can
use what's called a spider leg, which is a you know,
in our case, we have a twelve strand hollow braid
with a long splice like a ten inch splice eye
(03:28):
if you can picture that, and we wrap that spliced
eye onto the rigging line. You like virtually wrap it
three times around up, you know, from from down to up,
and then you take the tail and you put the
tail through that eye, and when you draw all that
(03:51):
up and dress it, it pulls the top of the
eye down across those three coils, and so you essentially
have a six coil Prussic type knot. It's single directional.
You push the knot up the rope and then when
you pull down on it, it crimps the rope and
holds in that spot. So now you have a secondary
(04:14):
leg on that single rope. And so you can tie
the original rope onto one side of the limb, and
you can tie the spider leg maybe out at the
you know, one is on the butt and one is
out at the tips, and you can put multiple legs.
If you had like a branching, you know, a multifaceted branch,
(04:36):
you could put a couple of legs on that and
tie a couple of angles out on the tips so
that when the branch came off it would it would
maintain its orientation and just sort of swing over and
then you could lay it flat down on the ground
and it would never drop vertically to the roof.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How much it's what is fascinating. So much of what
you do, Kevin is is absolutely fascinating to me. And
some of it has to do with like like the
of the engineering is the right word, the design and
the technique, But that type of thing, I don't know
that you know that we fully appreciate what all the
thought and all the planning that goes into limb removal
(05:20):
and other things is. There can be a lot to it.
And as you talk about kind of explaining some of
these different techniques, I hope people are kind of, you know,
like I am a bit in awe of that because
it is pretty it's it's pretty amazing. We're talking about
things that weigh thousands and thousands and thousands of pounds
(05:41):
when and for folks that haven't watched any of your
Game of Trees videos, check that stuff out, because you're
talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of pounds just
they look like they're just kind of like gliding through
the air. Like you guys just have it like so
perfectly balanced and set up that it's just like, ooh, this.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This is yeah through the air. You have Yeah, you
have to consider the physics at all, right, and and
when you're dealing with with branch sometimes your weakest thing
might be the branch itself. You know that you have
to consider and and in the rigging system, the rope
(06:22):
is supposed to be the weakest link. So if then
if you set up your safety factor for the strength
of the rope, you're good. But you can't discount the
integrity of the tree of course that you're on. And
so sometimes you know, branches don't grow necessarily straight vertically.
If you're on a conifer or something, it's pretty simple.
(06:43):
You just got a straight bowl and you're you're rigging
off of that onto that straight stem. But in you
know excurrently branching tree that that's uh got several angles
to it. Well, if you put a pulley out on
one of those angles, you're you're pulling down on it.
(07:05):
You may be compounding the force on that that limb
in a way that could cause a failure and right
in the middle of the rig that would be disconcerting.
That so so you have to set up your rope
angles so that that maybe you have a high block
and then you go out to that that limb and
(07:26):
the force of the load splits the angles splits the
difference between two rope angles. So if if your rope
angle is going out to the tip of a limb
and then you're hanging weight, maybe there's a forty five
degree angle in those two ropes, Well, the force is
going to go right through the middle of it, which
(07:48):
just usually happens to be right down the middle of
the pencil.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh man, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The limb right.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
One of the things that I feel like Kevin and
and uh, maybe you've thought about doing this, but on
videos you may want to do some classroom time, do
we get get a chalkboard out? Because because this.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Stuff not everybody is visual and they're uh, you know,
putting together an auditory description into a visual.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's pretty it's yeah, it's pretty good though a lot
as and it's it's fascinating stuff. And again I urge folks,
if you haven't been the Game of Trees dot com,
if you're on Instagram or YouTube as well, subscribed to
the channel, follow Kevin because a lot of really cool
uh that these these uh, these projects that they work
on are pretty amazing. And of course, if you've got
trees and you want to make sure that they're maintained properly.
(08:34):
Now is the time to get on the schedule. And Kevin,
we were just talking in the last segment about fall.
It's uh, we're feeling it right now. It's going to
be here, uh sooner than we think. It's a it's
a really important time for tree care and for folks
with those trees that maybe uh maybe looking for some
injections and some other things. Right now, it's time to
getting on the schedule, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah. Absolutely, we're doing the fall injections for for the
flat headed bores like bronze birch bore and two line
chestnut bore, and we're pretty much done with our ash treatments,
but we're these soil injected injected products we're utilizing in
the fall. And then our biochar are chlorosis bundle where
(09:21):
we maybe have a chlorotic white oak and we're putting
four different products down and one of those products is
activated charcoal and sulfur and ironklated iron andklated manganse and
we're formulating that ourselves in our you know, obviously we
(09:43):
make the biochar and so we're utilizing that in our
own formulation.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's pretty it's pretty amazing too. As we talk about
the work that you're able to do at Ham's Arborcare,
and we talk about all the different aspects of that work.
And really what it comes down to as well, is
the opportunity you know you have, Kevin, you have somebody
from Hamsarborcare come out take a look at your trees.
You have questions, they are they are awesome to answer
those questions as well, talk about some of the some
of the great things that they do and able to
(10:11):
do for your trees. Again like that biochar and other things,
great for your trees, great for your law, and great
for the overall health. It's a great day to get
on that schedule and have that conversation. I'll can just
pick up phone. Gave a call eight six six five
nine six five three nine six for Hams Barborcare. That's
eight sixty six five nine six five three nine six.
And of course the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
(10:32):
A m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin. It's always very informative,
always great chatting with you, my friend. Enjoyed this beautiful
day and we'll do it all again real soon.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Thank you, Sean, take care.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And again that website. Hey, amsarborcare dot com news comes
your way next right here on thirteen ten wib A
Thirteen ten wy me and ask the experts brought to
you by Hamsarburcare online Hamsarburcare dot com. That's h A
m ms arborcare dot com. Great website to learn more
about Hamsarborcare all the great things they can do for
you and you're trees and of course you can give
them a call also eight eight six sixty five nine
(00:31):
six five three nine six. That's eight six six five
nine six five three nine six. Great time here to
get on the schedule at Hamsarborcare mention the website Hamsarborcare
dot com. Another great website is gameoftrees dot com. That's
gameoftrees dot com. Got some really cool stuff up on
that website as well. Again that's Game of Trees dot com.
And joined us this morning from Hamsarborcare is master arborist
(00:54):
Kevin Ham. Kevin, how you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Doing great, Shawn? A little bit of drizzle going on
this morning, but yeah, too bad.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
Not too bad at all. And uh, I mentioned the
website Game of Trees dot com and I know, of
course you've got a Game of Trees YouTube channel which
is hugely popular and uh and there's always really good
content down there. Obviously, the type of work that you
do is is super interesting, and the type of projects
you guys encounter is very interesting. But also you and
(01:23):
the guys it's always it's always very engaging as well.
And I know I know that, uh, you know, for
a lot of folks, they're kind of one of their
big media consumption platforms is social media. And I had
seen that interesting uh tree, because now that I've you know,
followed Game of Trees and others, they automatically get suggested
other other videos. And I saw this this giant tree
(01:45):
limb that somebody had taken down hanging over a house,
and they had some the rigs set up so when
the tree came off, it kind of the limb like
swung around and then as they said it it like
placed perfectly on the grass. I said, that seems like
something Kevin would be doing. And so I messaged you,
and you said, well, we've done similar stuff like this,
(02:06):
and you've also recently encountered some situations where folks really
should have had these type of projects done. Let's talk
before we get into kind of seasonal stuff, let's really
quick talk about some of the cool stuff you guys
are able to do with your tools and techniques at
Hams Arbacare when it comes to maintaining trees.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, you know, most of the time when we're rigging,
we're rigging onto a single rope. So we're either we're
the tip tying a piece and listing it to a
pulley in which case it hangs vertically and then or
we're tying onto a piece and then dropping it negatively,
(02:43):
you know, to a pulley below the piece and it
is caught but then hangs vertically. Well, in both those situations,
you know you need for the lift, you need vertical clearance.
You know, there can't be anything above you. Occasionally you're
removing a limb that's maybe a horizontal limb over a
(03:06):
house and you have branches above it, so you can't
lift it and it'd be tedious. You'd be lowering it
to the roof or something like that. Well, you can
use what's called a spider leg, which is a you know,
in our case, we have a twelve strand hollow braid
with a long splice like a ten inch splice eye
(03:28):
if you can picture that, and we wrap that spliced
eye onto the rigging line. You like virtually wrap it
three times around up, you know, from from down to up,
and then you take the tail and you put the
tail through that eye, and when you draw all that
(03:51):
up and dress it, it pulls the top of the
eye down across those three coils, and so you essentially
have a six coil Prussic type knot. It's single directional.
You push the knot up the rope and then when
you pull down on it, it crimps the rope and
holds in that spot. So now you have a secondary
(04:14):
leg on that single rope. And so you can tie
the original rope onto one side of the limb, and
you can tie the spider leg maybe out at the
you know, one is on the butt and one is
out at the tips, and you can put multiple legs.
If you had like a branching, you know, a multifaceted branch,
(04:36):
you could put a couple of legs on that and
tie a couple of angles out on the tips so
that when the branch came off it would it would
maintain its orientation and just sort of swing over and
then you could lay it flat down on the ground
and it would never drop vertically to the roof.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
How much it's what is fascinating. So much of what
you do, Kevin is is absolutely fascinating to me. And
some of it has to do with like like the
of the engineering is the right word, the design and
the technique, But that type of thing, I don't know
that you know that we fully appreciate what all the
thought and all the planning that goes into limb removal
(05:20):
and other things is. There can be a lot to it.
And as you talk about kind of explaining some of
these different techniques, I hope people are kind of, you know,
like I am a bit in awe of that because
it is pretty it's it's pretty amazing. We're talking about
things that weigh thousands and thousands and thousands of pounds
(05:41):
when and for folks that haven't watched any of your
Game of Trees videos, check that stuff out, because you're
talking about, you know, thousands and thousands of pounds just
they look like they're just kind of like gliding through
the air. Like you guys just have it like so
perfectly balanced and set up that it's just like, ooh, this.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
This is yeah through the air. You have Yeah, you
have to consider the physics at all, right, and and
when you're dealing with with branch sometimes your weakest thing
might be the branch itself. You know that you have
to consider and and in the rigging system, the rope
(06:22):
is supposed to be the weakest link. So if then
if you set up your safety factor for the strength
of the rope, you're good. But you can't discount the
integrity of the tree of course that you're on. And
so sometimes you know, branches don't grow necessarily straight vertically.
If you're on a conifer or something, it's pretty simple.
(06:43):
You just got a straight bowl and you're you're rigging
off of that onto that straight stem. But in you
know excurrently branching tree that that's uh got several angles
to it. Well, if you put a pulley out on
one of those angles, you're you're pulling down on it.
(07:05):
You may be compounding the force on that that limb
in a way that could cause a failure and right
in the middle of the rig that would be disconcerting.
That so so you have to set up your rope
angles so that that maybe you have a high block
and then you go out to that that limb and
(07:26):
the force of the load splits the angles splits the
difference between two rope angles. So if if your rope
angle is going out to the tip of a limb
and then you're hanging weight, maybe there's a forty five
degree angle in those two ropes, Well, the force is
going to go right through the middle of it, which
(07:48):
just usually happens to be right down the middle of
the pencil.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh man, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
The limb right.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
One of the things that I feel like Kevin and
and uh, maybe you've thought about doing this, but on
videos you may want to do some classroom time, do
we get get a chalkboard out? Because because this.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Stuff not everybody is visual and they're uh, you know,
putting together an auditory description into a visual.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
It's pretty it's yeah, it's pretty good though a lot
as and it's it's fascinating stuff. And again I urge folks,
if you haven't been the Game of Trees dot com,
if you're on Instagram or YouTube as well, subscribed to
the channel, follow Kevin because a lot of really cool
uh that these these uh, these projects that they work
on are pretty amazing. And of course, if you've got
trees and you want to make sure that they're maintained properly.
(08:34):
Now is the time to get on the schedule. And Kevin,
we were just talking in the last segment about fall.
It's uh, we're feeling it right now. It's going to
be here, uh sooner than we think. It's a it's
a really important time for tree care and for folks
with those trees that maybe uh maybe looking for some
injections and some other things. Right now, it's time to
getting on the schedule, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Yeah. Absolutely, we're doing the fall injections for for the
flat headed bores like bronze birch bore and two line
chestnut bore, and we're pretty much done with our ash treatments,
but we're these soil injected injected products we're utilizing in
the fall. And then our biochar are chlorosis bundle where
(09:21):
we maybe have a chlorotic white oak and we're putting
four different products down and one of those products is
activated charcoal and sulfur and ironklated iron andklated manganse and
we're formulating that ourselves in our you know, obviously we
(09:43):
make the biochar and so we're utilizing that in our
own formulation.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
It's pretty it's pretty amazing too. As we talk about
the work that you're able to do at Ham's Arborcare,
and we talk about all the different aspects of that work.
And really what it comes down to as well, is
the opportunity you know you have, Kevin, you have somebody
from Hamsarborcare come out take a look at your trees.
You have questions, they are they are awesome to answer
those questions as well, talk about some of the some
of the great things that they do and able to
(10:11):
do for your trees. Again like that biochar and other things,
great for your trees, great for your law, and great
for the overall health. It's a great day to get
on that schedule and have that conversation. I'll can just
pick up phone. Gave a call eight six six five
nine six five three nine six for Hams Barborcare. That's
eight sixty six five nine six five three nine six.
And of course the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
(10:32):
A m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin. It's always very informative,
always great chatting with you, my friend. Enjoyed this beautiful
day and we'll do it all again real soon.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Thank you, Sean, take care.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And again that website. Hey, amsarborcare dot com news comes
your way next right here on thirteen ten wib A
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