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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A lot of music makes you smile seven eighteen thirteen
ten wib A and ask the experts. Brought to you
this morning by Hamsarburcare Online Haamsarburcare dot com. That's h A. M.
M as Arborcare dot com. Tell phone number eight six
six five nine six five three nine six. That's eight
(00:22):
six six five nine six five three nine six. And
enjoining us this morning from hams Arborcare is Kevin ham
Mester arborist. Kevin, how you doing this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm doing great, Sean. A little foggy, yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just that by the way, when you're when you're climbing,
I know you do. Uh, you know you've done some
very early climbs and other things. I'm guessing you've climbed
through fog. It's got to kind of be a cool
thing to kind of get up in that perch on
some of those just beautiful days where there's maybe a
little haze in the air and some other other cool
little features up there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. You know, my one of my most memorable experiences
was was climbing a coastal redwood at five o'clock in
the morning in California, and you know, the fog was
rolling out near above the whole forest. Can it be?
That was pretty cool. Another one was you know, at
(01:17):
nine thousand feet in a Guatemala cloud forest. Yes, and
that's pretty cool that is. And the sun came out,
the sun came out, and the clouds were below us.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know we were close, we were close to a
big cliff and it was just yeah, surreal. But yeah,
fog can be cool.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's it's it's and I think, uh, I wish I
had the you know what what you do is obviously
a very skilled as a master arborist, but also there's
something innate about what you do as well. I think
kind of something you were made for. Is I wish
I had that. I remember climbing trees as giddos and uh,
and you kind of grow up and some of us
stop climbing, others keep climbing, and uh, what a great
(01:58):
what a great gift that is. Talked this morning with
Kevin ham of Hams Arborcare the website Hamsarburcare dot com.
That's Hams h a m MS arborcare dot com. One
of the things that we think about in spring is
a lot of prevention and things going on. I know,
you are out getting some spraying taken care of right
now to really help help trees. What are you guys
(02:20):
spraying out there and why is it necessary?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, we've got a couple of rounds done of
our fungesyitle sprays. I just looked at someone yesterday that
had been treating their spruce trees and they hadn't yet
this year, and we're going to get a couple applications on.
Of course, the early applications are best because fungestitle issues
are best controlled by preventing them. But we can stall
(02:46):
out the situation here and we've got two more rounds
that will be doing where we've done two. Three is
usually the prescription, and if we get some late to
the game, we can do a little suppression by by
getting a couple applications on later. It won't undo anything
(03:08):
that's done, but so we've got those coming up. We're
looking at our first round of BTK sprays, which is
a bacterial agent that works against the spongy moth in
their early stages. And we've been watching for bridal wreath
to bloom and it's kind of late this year, so
(03:30):
the hatch is probably a little late this year. And
we need to time that with with the hatch and
get them while they're they're young. So that'll be an
application maybe maybe towards the end of this week or
early next week, and then about a week later will
be the second application. So we kind of juggle it
(03:52):
in between funge of title sprays. So the spring is
kind of you know, action field as far as watching
the day to day events.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And Kevin, you mentioned looking for for certain blooms aren't
things I mean, I know we talk a lot about
degree days and other things. Sometimes the best signs for
when it's the right time it's just kind of observing
mother Nature as a whole and saying, okay, typically when
this occurs, it's also a sign that the conditions are
right for this to occur. And things that you know,
(04:22):
somebody like me would never would never correlate or never connect.
Definitely in your world, connections are definitely always being made.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, you know, things happen consistently at the same time.
And there's a book in my library called Coincide Oh,
and it's exactly that. It's looking at the you know,
timetable of plant activity as it crosses over to insect
(04:50):
activity and trying to correlate those very visual things like
a magnolia bloom with you know, a tent caterpillar for example.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As we talked this morning with Kevin Ham of Ham's Arborcare,
and speaking of applications of course, sprays and other things
being applied right now. Also, biochar is definitely this is
a wind wind product for folks. Not only is it
good for your trees, but if it's green and it grows,
biochar is good for the soil, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, absolutely, And we've got a product that's mixed with
hemic acid which is good for lawn and and of
course tree roots grow under the lawn. So if we
can enhance the fertility of the entire yard, we can
(05:45):
you know, help help our trees out as well. And
and uh and then charcoal of course is part of
the cat ion exchange positively charged ions, you know, tracing
negatively charged ions, and so everything you're putting on your
lawn could be held in place by additional carbon. And
(06:09):
so it's a good you know, broadcast method that we
have to get it into the entire landscape.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And it's as mentioned, of course, we talked about all
the all the great benefits of biochar and just interesting
use of of of a great product in the science mind,
it is absolutely fascinating. And and Kevin, one of the
things too, we think about springtime not only getting things
prepared and ready and of course applications and prevention, but
also it's a good time to think about planting. And
(06:38):
I know when we've been talking, of course, we've talked
about legacy trees. What makes them so special? You had
mentioned the other week a special on crab apples. Is
that is that still ongoing or where do we stand
with that deal?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah? Yeah, If you want a crab apple in your
yard this spring, and you want a legacy tree that
has a five year warranty with it, yeah you you
want to you get that five year warranty free your
crab apple.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Crab apples are great, are great trees. Not only the
flowers are beautiful, but they're they're nice, they're they're like
maybe it's because I have a Chihuahua at home, but
they seemed to also be like, and I'm a short guy.
They seem to be like like just the perfect like
if you're looking for like a nice little tree for
the yard, and maybe that one spot you're saying, what
(07:26):
can I put there? Crab apple trees seem to be
seen to be a pretty good fit for most people's yards.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, somewhere in the yard, you know, you get the
little sunny spot over there, and yeah, you get that
burst in the spring of beautiful color. You can probably
see a number of them now, some of them are
finishing up, some of them are still in full display.
But yeah, and then a lot of the ones that
we have have persistent fruit, so the fruit hangs on
(07:56):
the tree and you've got this decorative display all winter,
which then feeds the birds as well. So, uh, you
can have a habitat tree and and a good display
in the.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Spring you were talking about. We started a conversation this
week talking about some of the beauty you get you
get to see as an arborist and getting up in
those trees. And uh, you know, one of I think
one of those beautiful winter pictures is if you see
those crab apples right after a light snow, and I'll
see folks post pictures of the contrast with the white
snow on the on the limbs and those bright, bright apples,
(08:29):
those little, those little crab apples kind of against it's
it's such a beautiful look and as you mentioned, a
great benefit for the wildlife. What about we talk about
legacy trees for people that aren't familiar, Kevin, what a
great you mentioned that five year warranty and there's a
reason for that there is these are this is a
great ground up so to say designed for how trees
(08:53):
are are planted is is it really avoids a lot
of some of those traditional issues of like the the
you know, the ball and ear lapp type type tree planting.
Let's talk about legacy trees and what that all involves.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, well it's all you know, the firm foundation, right,
you know, you build it from the ground up, and
so much of what happens to a tree is underground
and we can't we can't see it. But you know,
the structure matters, just as we talk about training pruning.
When you have an open grown tree, a lot of
times you need to kind of give it direction because
(09:28):
you know, the sun's pulling it in all directions and
and you can do a lot by training it. Well,
the root structure is very important as well. Unfortunately, you know,
you can't change much down the road with the root structure.
It's not fully available to us. We can blow it
out with an air spade and we can mitigate some issues,
(09:51):
But how about if we just don't start those issues
in the first place. And what Legacy Tree has done
is created a plat form type a scenario where these
roots elongate out just like they would in the forest,
so they've got a nice flare, they're planted at the
right depth, and the scaffolding roots have sinker roots that
(10:17):
are shooting straight down and not out to the sides,
not curling up, not being on the surface. Now you know,
a lot of roots are on the surface no matter what.
If you have a maple tree, you know, get used
to maults, yes, because you're gonna have to multip little
area eighteen inches. That's where ninety percent of the roots
(10:41):
exist on any tree is in the top eighteen it's
just of soil. But having the proper structure, especially close
to the tree is very important too. And then having
your tree planted at the correct depth so that you
don't get those gurdling roots that I've talked about so often.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And that's a great thing too. As we talk about
care upfront and of course current and continuing Care with
Hams Arborcare. Whether you've got a tree that you love
and you want to make sure it lasts generations. Maybe
you got that spot in your yard you go, you
know what, a beautiful tree would be perfect for it.
Kevin and the team at Ham's Arborcare, they would love
to talk to you. All I got to do this morning.
Pick up phone, give a call eight six six five
(11:21):
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. Learn more online
Hamsarborcare dot com. That's Hams Hammsarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's
always great chatting. You have a fantastic Dan. We'll do
it all again real soon.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Take care news comes your way next right here. I'm
thirteen ten Wiba
A lot of music makes you smile seven eighteen thirteen
ten wib A and ask the experts. Brought to you
this morning by Hamsarburcare Online Haamsarburcare dot com. That's h A. M.
M as Arborcare dot com. Tell phone number eight six
six five nine six five three nine six. That's eight
(00:22):
six six five nine six five three nine six. And
enjoining us this morning from hams Arborcare is Kevin ham
Mester arborist. Kevin, how you doing this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
I'm doing great, Sean. A little foggy, yes, you know.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Just that by the way, when you're when you're climbing,
I know you do. Uh, you know you've done some
very early climbs and other things. I'm guessing you've climbed
through fog. It's got to kind of be a cool
thing to kind of get up in that perch on
some of those just beautiful days where there's maybe a
little haze in the air and some other other cool
little features up there.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Yeah. You know, my one of my most memorable experiences
was was climbing a coastal redwood at five o'clock in
the morning in California, and you know, the fog was
rolling out near above the whole forest. Can it be?
That was pretty cool. Another one was you know, at
(01:17):
nine thousand feet in a Guatemala cloud forest. Yes, and
that's pretty cool that is. And the sun came out,
the sun came out, and the clouds were below us.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
You know we were close, we were close to a
big cliff and it was just yeah, surreal. But yeah,
fog can be cool.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
It's it's it's and I think, uh, I wish I
had the you know what what you do is obviously
a very skilled as a master arborist, but also there's
something innate about what you do as well. I think
kind of something you were made for. Is I wish
I had that. I remember climbing trees as giddos and uh,
and you kind of grow up and some of us
stop climbing, others keep climbing, and uh, what a great
(01:58):
what a great gift that is. Talked this morning with
Kevin ham of Hams Arborcare the website Hamsarburcare dot com.
That's Hams h a m MS arborcare dot com. One
of the things that we think about in spring is
a lot of prevention and things going on. I know,
you are out getting some spraying taken care of right
now to really help help trees. What are you guys
(02:20):
spraying out there and why is it necessary?
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, well, we've got a couple of rounds done of
our fungesyitle sprays. I just looked at someone yesterday that
had been treating their spruce trees and they hadn't yet
this year, and we're going to get a couple applications on.
Of course, the early applications are best because fungestitle issues
are best controlled by preventing them. But we can stall
(02:46):
out the situation here and we've got two more rounds
that will be doing where we've done two. Three is
usually the prescription, and if we get some late to
the game, we can do a little suppression by by
getting a couple applications on later. It won't undo anything
(03:08):
that's done, but so we've got those coming up. We're
looking at our first round of BTK sprays, which is
a bacterial agent that works against the spongy moth in
their early stages. And we've been watching for bridal wreath
to bloom and it's kind of late this year, so
(03:30):
the hatch is probably a little late this year. And
we need to time that with with the hatch and
get them while they're they're young. So that'll be an
application maybe maybe towards the end of this week or
early next week, and then about a week later will
be the second application. So we kind of juggle it
(03:52):
in between funge of title sprays. So the spring is
kind of you know, action field as far as watching
the day to day events.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
And Kevin, you mentioned looking for for certain blooms aren't
things I mean, I know we talk a lot about
degree days and other things. Sometimes the best signs for
when it's the right time it's just kind of observing
mother Nature as a whole and saying, okay, typically when
this occurs, it's also a sign that the conditions are
right for this to occur. And things that you know,
(04:22):
somebody like me would never would never correlate or never connect.
Definitely in your world, connections are definitely always being made.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, you know, things happen consistently at the same time.
And there's a book in my library called Coincide Oh,
and it's exactly that. It's looking at the you know,
timetable of plant activity as it crosses over to insect
(04:50):
activity and trying to correlate those very visual things like
a magnolia bloom with you know, a tent caterpillar for example.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
As we talked this morning with Kevin Ham of Ham's Arborcare,
and speaking of applications of course, sprays and other things
being applied right now. Also, biochar is definitely this is
a wind wind product for folks. Not only is it
good for your trees, but if it's green and it grows,
biochar is good for the soil, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, absolutely, And we've got a product that's mixed with
hemic acid which is good for lawn and and of
course tree roots grow under the lawn. So if we
can enhance the fertility of the entire yard, we can
(05:45):
you know, help help our trees out as well. And
and uh and then charcoal of course is part of
the cat ion exchange positively charged ions, you know, tracing
negatively charged ions, and so everything you're putting on your
lawn could be held in place by additional carbon. And
(06:09):
so it's a good you know, broadcast method that we
have to get it into the entire landscape.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
And it's as mentioned, of course, we talked about all
the all the great benefits of biochar and just interesting
use of of of a great product in the science mind,
it is absolutely fascinating. And and Kevin, one of the
things too, we think about springtime not only getting things
prepared and ready and of course applications and prevention, but
also it's a good time to think about planting. And
(06:38):
I know when we've been talking, of course, we've talked
about legacy trees. What makes them so special? You had
mentioned the other week a special on crab apples. Is
that is that still ongoing or where do we stand
with that deal?
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yeah? Yeah, If you want a crab apple in your
yard this spring, and you want a legacy tree that
has a five year warranty with it, yeah you you
want to you get that five year warranty free your
crab apple.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Crab apples are great, are great trees. Not only the
flowers are beautiful, but they're they're nice, they're they're like
maybe it's because I have a Chihuahua at home, but
they seemed to also be like, and I'm a short guy.
They seem to be like like just the perfect like
if you're looking for like a nice little tree for
the yard, and maybe that one spot you're saying, what
(07:26):
can I put there? Crab apple trees seem to be
seen to be a pretty good fit for most people's yards.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, somewhere in the yard, you know, you get the
little sunny spot over there, and yeah, you get that
burst in the spring of beautiful color. You can probably
see a number of them now, some of them are
finishing up, some of them are still in full display.
But yeah, and then a lot of the ones that
we have have persistent fruit, so the fruit hangs on
(07:56):
the tree and you've got this decorative display all winter,
which then feeds the birds as well. So, uh, you
can have a habitat tree and and a good display
in the.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Spring you were talking about. We started a conversation this
week talking about some of the beauty you get you
get to see as an arborist and getting up in
those trees. And uh, you know, one of I think
one of those beautiful winter pictures is if you see
those crab apples right after a light snow, and I'll
see folks post pictures of the contrast with the white
snow on the on the limbs and those bright, bright apples,
(08:29):
those little, those little crab apples kind of against it's
it's such a beautiful look and as you mentioned, a
great benefit for the wildlife. What about we talk about
legacy trees for people that aren't familiar, Kevin, what a
great you mentioned that five year warranty and there's a
reason for that there is these are this is a
great ground up so to say designed for how trees
(08:53):
are are planted is is it really avoids a lot
of some of those traditional issues of like the the
you know, the ball and ear lapp type type tree planting.
Let's talk about legacy trees and what that all involves.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, well it's all you know, the firm foundation, right,
you know, you build it from the ground up, and
so much of what happens to a tree is underground
and we can't we can't see it. But you know,
the structure matters, just as we talk about training pruning.
When you have an open grown tree, a lot of
times you need to kind of give it direction because
(09:28):
you know, the sun's pulling it in all directions and
and you can do a lot by training it. Well,
the root structure is very important as well. Unfortunately, you know,
you can't change much down the road with the root structure.
It's not fully available to us. We can blow it
out with an air spade and we can mitigate some issues,
(09:51):
But how about if we just don't start those issues
in the first place. And what Legacy Tree has done
is created a plat form type a scenario where these
roots elongate out just like they would in the forest,
so they've got a nice flare, they're planted at the
right depth, and the scaffolding roots have sinker roots that
(10:17):
are shooting straight down and not out to the sides,
not curling up, not being on the surface. Now you know,
a lot of roots are on the surface no matter what.
If you have a maple tree, you know, get used
to maults, yes, because you're gonna have to multip little
area eighteen inches. That's where ninety percent of the roots
(10:41):
exist on any tree is in the top eighteen it's
just of soil. But having the proper structure, especially close
to the tree is very important too. And then having
your tree planted at the correct depth so that you
don't get those gurdling roots that I've talked about so often.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
And that's a great thing too. As we talk about
care upfront and of course current and continuing Care with
Hams Arborcare. Whether you've got a tree that you love
and you want to make sure it lasts generations. Maybe
you got that spot in your yard you go, you
know what, a beautiful tree would be perfect for it.
Kevin and the team at Ham's Arborcare, they would love
to talk to you. All I got to do this morning.
Pick up phone, give a call eight six six five
(11:21):
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. Learn more online
Hamsarborcare dot com. That's Hams Hammsarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's
always great chatting. You have a fantastic Dan. We'll do
it all again real soon.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Take care news comes your way next right here. I'm
thirteen ten Wiba
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