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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten Wyba and ask the Experts, brought
to you by Hamsarborcare. The website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's
hams h A M. M sarborcare dot com. They're tell
for number eight six six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight sixty six five nine six five
three nine six mentioned website Hamsarborcare dot com. I haven't
(00:33):
mentioned yet, of course, Game of Trees dot com. It's
the other other website with Hamsarborcare if you're looking to
get some fantastic so some puzzles, some other really cool things,
all available at gameoftrees dot com. And joining us this
morning from Hamsarborcare is Mester arborist Kevin Ham. Kevin, how
you doing this week?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Doing great, Sean. We've had some some good rain this week. Yeah,
and you know we've got some interesting and I think
I found just an absolute monster ash tree.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I saw I saw on your Instagram the other day.
I saw the picture of it as I was I
was kind of scrolling through Instagram and I'm looking at
this tree and I'm like looking at that bark. That
is an I believe to be an ash tree, and
it is this thing is mammoth Kevin. Let's let's talk
about one. It's amazing. You don't see many ashes, let
(01:26):
alone ones that large, and it looks pretty healthy. What
what's the story. It's kind of the backstory with this tree.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, you know it. It was probably the original farmhouse
in this area. It's one of the historical houses on
this particular part of Beldie, you know, village of Flodie.
And you know, I'd come across it a number of
years ago and and that client never wanted to treat it.
(01:59):
You know, it was off for a one time in
the past, and then it recently sold, and so I
hadn't been in on the property for some time. And
I remember going to the estimate last week and I'm like, oh,
this is looking familiar. And then I drive up and
I'm like, oh, yeah that, and I was super surprised
(02:22):
to see it in really pretty good shape, you know,
some decline at the tips, which would be expected. And
I walk up and I'm looking, I'm searching for did
anybody else treat this? No, it's never been never been treated,
and it seemed to be a different client name, and
so at any rate, I thought, well, this would be
(02:42):
a good you know, we could we could treat it
and prune it. You know, the pruning we're going to
do on it. The reason a lot of times when
we treated ash trees, especially ones that you know hadn't
been treated and have an obvious infestation of bores a
is well, you know, don't don't spend more money on pruning.
Let's just see how it goes. But this one's looking
(03:05):
so good. And actually the treatment. One indicator of good
vigor is how quickly the treatment occurs.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's an injection, right, and there are twenty five injection
sites on this tree. It's massive, right, sixty five inches
in diameter, so figure that's you know, close to two
hundred and six inches of their comference. So you know,
about every ten inches or so, we had an injection
site and just over five minutes to inject the entire amount,
(03:43):
you know, almost you know, three quarters of a liter
of solution into that tree, which is a lot in
that regard. But and it's usually like fifteen minutes or
so to treat a tree, and this one's just gobble it, right.
So the pruning we're going to do is is you know,
(04:04):
getting the deadwood out, but probably a little bit of retrenchment.
Pruning is the official term where you know, senior trees,
you know, old trees will will shed branches, uh, and
it's a you know, it's kind of a defensive thing
that occurs in nature where the tree reduces its size
(04:26):
basically and then it exists longer in the forestscape as
a you know, a habitat for animals or whatever. Is
just the way the ecosystem works, and so we can
we can do that. We kind of try to mimic
that sometimes on older trees that somebody wants to keep
in the landscape. Well, we can reduce these large branches,
(04:49):
maybe some of them are dying back, you know, in
this case. And what we can also do the the
adult beetles will emerge in just a couple of weeks
and then of course they're going to look for an
ash tree to lay eggs on. Well, there aren't very
many ash trees, but they're coming out of one. They
have a lot of options to lay eggs on. And
(05:11):
so we can probably eliminate some of those adults in
the trimmings that we take off the tree, and so
we won't be doing a lot of live wood, but
on branches that are declining, we may go back to
a real viable lateral and take off some living wood
where there's no doubt some population of bores that are
(05:33):
getting ready to emerge as adults, and so we can
kind of get them out of there and there's not
a lot of additional pressure from a high population. We're
on a population decline of the ash boar in areas
where a lot of the ash trees have been dead
and removed, and even dead standing ash trees they only
(05:57):
produce bores while they still have viable bark, you know,
because that's where they exist.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I've seen ash trees where they it literally like those
bores get right between that and the One of the
things I love about ash trees is that thick and
very characteristic, unique bark. And I'll see those trees that
got hit and the bark is just kind of peeled
back or fallen off and kind of now now on
the upside is and it's not a good thing, but
(06:26):
it kind of looks cool. The little trails and the
little lines that they chew through on the on the
inside of the tree looks kind of neat, but that's
a lot dude, have any you know when you were
mentioning too this, I mean a guess probably also some
of the size probably helped this this tree farewell against
the ash boar. Are we seeing any ash trees left
(06:46):
in the wild here in southern Wisconsin or are they
have they all pretty much been if they haven't been
treated or cared for pretty much goners.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, they're they're pretty much goners. We were up by
Manitawak the other day and just full standing forests. You know,
they've got a lot of natural ash up in that
area and just standing dead. Just you look and it's
just like a winter scape except for all the green underneath.
(07:17):
That's that's going to repopulate the area eventually, not with ash,
but some of the some of the ash will sprout,
and those sprouts can persist for some time. I know.
The quick trip right by my house has an ash
tree that was about ten inches in diameter, and you
see the dead things standing there and this bush underneath
(07:41):
it with living ash. But they'll they're just providing fodder
for you know, remnant populations of the boar.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Let's talk about you know, do you think about you know,
as as these ash trees unfortunately the ones that have
been lost, you know, looking for something to replace that.
The nice thing is you've got some great options at
Ham's Arborcare, including Legacy Trees, which is a phenomenal program
that that you guys offer at Ham's Arborcare with some
(08:15):
phenomenal trees, and let's talk a little bit about about
replacing or for folks, I may have that area in
the yard and they're saying, you know what, we really
could use a tree. Legacy trees are really a great
way to go, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, you know, just the proprietary process that they have
of establishing them. It's a root plate that mimics a
tree that just grew in the forest, and so you
have a really solid root structure and a very populated
(08:52):
root zone. You know a lot of times you get
a pre dug tree and you're cutting off a lot
of the roots that were were growing, and so you've
got this transplant stress that they refer to. And these
trees do not have a transplant stress. They're just we
call it the brownie. It's the root plate that's there
(09:16):
and it is solid. I've seen a demonstration where they
tried to bust it apart okay, and they busted apart
a rootball and there was hardly any you know, fine
roots or anything within that root ball. And you could
see all the big roots that were cut off, and
then the structure of those roots were circling and they're
(09:37):
doing strange things, and the Brownie of the we've got
a it's usually a twenty four by thirty two palette
basically that this tree is in and there's roots in
every part of that palette. And a big, big strong
(09:58):
guy was kicking up this tree and just slamming it
on the ground and trying to bust up that root plate.
And you know, we planted that tree and it's going
to grow just fine, very very sound system. And we
provide a five year warranty. Who does that?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's amazing. This is a really really cool that five
year warranty. And what a great great tree and getting it,
getting it cared for, making sure it gets established quite well.
And Kevin one thing too before we wrap, speaking of
planting trees. We haven't talked about this for a while.
And I know that there's a number of folks that
are that are our property managers, property owners, business owners
here in the area. You guys do a fair amount
(10:40):
of commercial work as far as planting. Obviously do a
ton of commercial work when it comes to treecare, but
also planting side new developments and other things. You guys
at Ham's Arborcare really are and very much involved and
loved doing that commercial work as well, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah. Absolutely, We've got a number of hoas that we
take care of, and you know, we're able to maintain
the trees. I'm going to one today where we do
an annual shrub, you know, maintenance and not our favorite work,
but you know it has to be done. And then
(11:17):
they've got always they've got young trees throughout the property,
and so we we target some things and we add
on different things. But you know, there's and there's programs
that we can offer to do. Maybe an hoa has
a bunch of work to do, and we can do
a day rate and they can just sort of have
(11:37):
a real predictable amount that they're going to spend. And
wherever we get to, we get to and they can
see us work and how effective we are and how
much how productive we are in that way, and and
so that provides kind of an entry way to get
in and see what what hams Urborcare can do for
their their community.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Great stuff, and of course you can learn more about
Ham's Arborcare whether you're looking for some thing for your HOA,
you're looking for someone for your own property and and
those those areas Kevin the team at hams Arborcare love
talk to. You can learn more online the website Hamsarborcare
dot com. That's h A M M Sarborcare dot com.
Tell phe number eight six six five nine six five
three nine six that's eight sixty six five nine six
(12:19):
five three nine six. Kevin, it's always fantastic chatting with you. You
enjoy this great weather and we'll talk real soon. Take
care son, thank you and we'll check in with news
next year on thirteen ten wu I b i
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten Wyba and ask the Experts, brought
to you by Hamsarborcare. The website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's
hams h A M. M sarborcare dot com. They're tell
for number eight six six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight sixty six five nine six five
three nine six mentioned website Hamsarborcare dot com. I haven't
(00:33):
mentioned yet, of course, Game of Trees dot com. It's
the other other website with Hamsarborcare if you're looking to
get some fantastic so some puzzles, some other really cool things,
all available at gameoftrees dot com. And joining us this
morning from Hamsarborcare is Mester arborist Kevin Ham. Kevin, how
you doing this week?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
Doing great, Sean. We've had some some good rain this week. Yeah,
and you know we've got some interesting and I think
I found just an absolute monster ash tree.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
I saw I saw on your Instagram the other day.
I saw the picture of it as I was I
was kind of scrolling through Instagram and I'm looking at
this tree and I'm like looking at that bark. That
is an I believe to be an ash tree, and
it is this thing is mammoth Kevin. Let's let's talk
about one. It's amazing. You don't see many ashes, let
(01:26):
alone ones that large, and it looks pretty healthy. What
what's the story. It's kind of the backstory with this tree.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah, you know it. It was probably the original farmhouse
in this area. It's one of the historical houses on
this particular part of Beldie, you know, village of Flodie.
And you know, I'd come across it a number of
years ago and and that client never wanted to treat it.
(01:59):
You know, it was off for a one time in
the past, and then it recently sold, and so I
hadn't been in on the property for some time. And
I remember going to the estimate last week and I'm like, oh,
this is looking familiar. And then I drive up and
I'm like, oh, yeah that, and I was super surprised
(02:22):
to see it in really pretty good shape, you know,
some decline at the tips, which would be expected. And
I walk up and I'm looking, I'm searching for did
anybody else treat this? No, it's never been never been treated,
and it seemed to be a different client name, and
so at any rate, I thought, well, this would be
(02:42):
a good you know, we could we could treat it
and prune it. You know, the pruning we're going to
do on it. The reason a lot of times when
we treated ash trees, especially ones that you know hadn't
been treated and have an obvious infestation of bores a
is well, you know, don't don't spend more money on pruning.
Let's just see how it goes. But this one's looking
(03:05):
so good. And actually the treatment. One indicator of good
vigor is how quickly the treatment occurs.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's an injection, right, and there are twenty five injection
sites on this tree. It's massive, right, sixty five inches
in diameter, so figure that's you know, close to two
hundred and six inches of their comference. So you know,
about every ten inches or so, we had an injection
site and just over five minutes to inject the entire amount,
(03:43):
you know, almost you know, three quarters of a liter
of solution into that tree, which is a lot in
that regard. But and it's usually like fifteen minutes or
so to treat a tree, and this one's just gobble it, right.
So the pruning we're going to do is is you know,
(04:04):
getting the deadwood out, but probably a little bit of retrenchment.
Pruning is the official term where you know, senior trees,
you know, old trees will will shed branches, uh, and
it's a you know, it's kind of a defensive thing
that occurs in nature where the tree reduces its size
(04:26):
basically and then it exists longer in the forestscape as
a you know, a habitat for animals or whatever. Is
just the way the ecosystem works, and so we can
we can do that. We kind of try to mimic
that sometimes on older trees that somebody wants to keep
in the landscape. Well, we can reduce these large branches,
(04:49):
maybe some of them are dying back, you know, in
this case. And what we can also do the the
adult beetles will emerge in just a couple of weeks
and then of course they're going to look for an
ash tree to lay eggs on. Well, there aren't very
many ash trees, but they're coming out of one. They
have a lot of options to lay eggs on. And
(05:11):
so we can probably eliminate some of those adults in
the trimmings that we take off the tree, and so
we won't be doing a lot of live wood, but
on branches that are declining, we may go back to
a real viable lateral and take off some living wood
where there's no doubt some population of bores that are
(05:33):
getting ready to emerge as adults, and so we can
kind of get them out of there and there's not
a lot of additional pressure from a high population. We're
on a population decline of the ash boar in areas
where a lot of the ash trees have been dead
and removed, and even dead standing ash trees they only
(05:57):
produce bores while they still have viable bark, you know,
because that's where they exist.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
I've seen ash trees where they it literally like those
bores get right between that and the One of the
things I love about ash trees is that thick and
very characteristic, unique bark. And I'll see those trees that
got hit and the bark is just kind of peeled
back or fallen off and kind of now now on
the upside is and it's not a good thing, but
(06:26):
it kind of looks cool. The little trails and the
little lines that they chew through on the on the
inside of the tree looks kind of neat, but that's
a lot dude, have any you know when you were
mentioning too this, I mean a guess probably also some
of the size probably helped this this tree farewell against
the ash boar. Are we seeing any ash trees left
(06:46):
in the wild here in southern Wisconsin or are they
have they all pretty much been if they haven't been
treated or cared for pretty much goners.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Yeah, they're they're pretty much goners. We were up by
Manitawak the other day and just full standing forests. You know,
they've got a lot of natural ash up in that
area and just standing dead. Just you look and it's
just like a winter scape except for all the green underneath.
(07:17):
That's that's going to repopulate the area eventually, not with ash,
but some of the some of the ash will sprout,
and those sprouts can persist for some time. I know.
The quick trip right by my house has an ash
tree that was about ten inches in diameter, and you
see the dead things standing there and this bush underneath
(07:41):
it with living ash. But they'll they're just providing fodder
for you know, remnant populations of the boar.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Let's talk about you know, do you think about you know,
as as these ash trees unfortunately the ones that have
been lost, you know, looking for something to replace that.
The nice thing is you've got some great options at
Ham's Arborcare, including Legacy Trees, which is a phenomenal program
that that you guys offer at Ham's Arborcare with some
(08:15):
phenomenal trees, and let's talk a little bit about about
replacing or for folks, I may have that area in
the yard and they're saying, you know what, we really
could use a tree. Legacy trees are really a great
way to go, aren't they.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Yeah, you know, just the proprietary process that they have
of establishing them. It's a root plate that mimics a
tree that just grew in the forest, and so you
have a really solid root structure and a very populated
(08:52):
root zone. You know a lot of times you get
a pre dug tree and you're cutting off a lot
of the roots that were were growing, and so you've
got this transplant stress that they refer to. And these
trees do not have a transplant stress. They're just we
call it the brownie. It's the root plate that's there
(09:16):
and it is solid. I've seen a demonstration where they
tried to bust it apart okay, and they busted apart
a rootball and there was hardly any you know, fine
roots or anything within that root ball. And you could
see all the big roots that were cut off, and
then the structure of those roots were circling and they're
(09:37):
doing strange things, and the Brownie of the we've got
a it's usually a twenty four by thirty two palette
basically that this tree is in and there's roots in
every part of that palette. And a big, big strong
(09:58):
guy was kicking up this tree and just slamming it
on the ground and trying to bust up that root plate.
And you know, we planted that tree and it's going
to grow just fine, very very sound system. And we
provide a five year warranty. Who does that?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
That's amazing. This is a really really cool that five
year warranty. And what a great great tree and getting it,
getting it cared for, making sure it gets established quite well.
And Kevin one thing too before we wrap, speaking of
planting trees. We haven't talked about this for a while.
And I know that there's a number of folks that
are that are our property managers, property owners, business owners
here in the area. You guys do a fair amount
(10:40):
of commercial work as far as planting. Obviously do a
ton of commercial work when it comes to treecare, but
also planting side new developments and other things. You guys
at Ham's Arborcare really are and very much involved and
loved doing that commercial work as well, don't you.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah. Absolutely, We've got a number of hoas that we
take care of, and you know, we're able to maintain
the trees. I'm going to one today where we do
an annual shrub, you know, maintenance and not our favorite work,
but you know it has to be done. And then
(11:17):
they've got always they've got young trees throughout the property,
and so we we target some things and we add
on different things. But you know, there's and there's programs
that we can offer to do. Maybe an hoa has
a bunch of work to do, and we can do
a day rate and they can just sort of have
(11:37):
a real predictable amount that they're going to spend. And
wherever we get to, we get to and they can
see us work and how effective we are and how
much how productive we are in that way, and and
so that provides kind of an entry way to get
in and see what what hams Urborcare can do for
their their community.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Great stuff, and of course you can learn more about
Ham's Arborcare whether you're looking for some thing for your HOA,
you're looking for someone for your own property and and
those those areas Kevin the team at hams Arborcare love
talk to. You can learn more online the website Hamsarborcare
dot com. That's h A M M Sarborcare dot com.
Tell phe number eight six six five nine six five
three nine six that's eight sixty six five nine six
(12:19):
five three nine six. Kevin, it's always fantastic chatting with you. You
enjoy this great weather and we'll talk real soon. Take
care son, thank you and we'll check in with news
next year on thirteen ten wu I b i
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