October 14, 2025 • 14 mins
UND Head Hockey Coach Dane Jackson is celebrating back-to-back wins over St. Thomas, with final scores of 6-2 and 5-2. He credited the team’s success to playing with instinct to gain the lead. While the team doesn’t rely on traditional line charts, Jackson admitted it’s always a challenge deciding who gets the start. He emphasized that simply playing the game the right way often leads to results. The team showed grit, played with an edge, and made several creative plays throughout the weekend. Performances were closely evaluated, and Jackson noted that the goalie came up big when the team needed him most. Now, all eyes are on the upcoming home game against Minnesota.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And we welcome you back here to another segment of Hawk
Talk downtown Grand Forks. I'm Paul Ralston on this Tuesday night.
It's Polish and we've already made the turn to the
ice as North to Go To Hockey managed to pick
up a couple of wins over the weekend, a little
unique Friday Sunday home and Home and for the first time,
head coach Dane Jackson joins the broadcast. Everybody exciting to
(00:21):
have coach Jackson here and coach you know, tell you what,
here's the thing about college hockey. They don't stand on ceremony.
Each game is so important right out to the gate.
You hate to talk about it, but it is. And
you know, your team came out. I just on Friday night.
I was just so pleased with the jump and the
type of play that they were playing in that opening period.
(00:42):
What about you and your staff? What were you thinking
in that first period?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, it was nice to see.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Just like you say, there's you know, you do lots
of x'es and o's, and that's important. But the biggest
thing we talked about is to compete in the battle
and the energy and kind of the fire to play.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know you and d hockey.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So that was really good to see the guys jump
out and just just play, not be worried about making mistakes,
just play on instincts, play fast and and play.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
On the edge. So it was really good to you know,
kind of jump them and get that lead.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And then I thought, we you know, got a little
bit loose after that with our puck management stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But that's kind of human nature, I think, once you
get up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
One of the things that you know, I think people
took away too. You know they look at a line chart,
which now is on social media, and when they put
it out there and they see who's listed as fourth.
But you guys don't necessarily label your lines. But you know,
you look at the line of Littler Kroll and and
you know that youngster that you brought in from the
dovesze Kresky. You know, they just I was telling Tim,
(01:38):
we were just discussing this the other day, I said,
what impressed me about those guys. They don't care about
how the other team wants to play. They're just like, well,
if we have to dump it in and chase it,
we'll go find it if we want to. If we
can play straight ahead and gain entry with the puck
on our stick. We'll do it that way. They I
just kind of enjoy the simplicity of which of how
they play.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, And we actually highlighted those guys in the video
the next day about you know, them doing that having
so much success. You know, because obviously to Kate Entry,
we know those are great chances and guys want to
make fancy plays and do that, but if team's checking,
well sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You just gonna take what the game gives you. And
those guys did a great.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Job of kind of having the humility and wherewithal to
just say, hey, we're gonna put pucks ahead, and then
they they ground and cut back and got to the
net for rebounds and create a good chances just in
the ozone cycle. So really really nice. It's nice to
see those guys have success and you know they've worked hard.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
They like you say, there, they were.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Our best line on on Friday night, and you know,
just because they were playing hard and playing the right way.
They all got good hockey sense, they got good ability,
but they were playing with an edge and Cody Crowle
was getting in there and first on the fore checks,
the chrisky was doing a good job. Body and guys
and kids always got such a good stick. When he's
around the net, he's he's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's one thing for a coach to go over and
really detail and and you know, go up to the
monitor and and showcase. But you know, I think I
read or heard on Saturday like Zeller's obviously is a
skill player and has probably had more skill than a
lot of guys he's gone up with over the course
of his young career in the levels of hockey that
(03:07):
he's played. But it was his teammates from the bench
after he made a simple play on like a dump in.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, that are encourage him.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And think about what that does to a young man
when they get it from their own team from the bench,
and the encouragement of making a play like that that
they're not necessarily accustomed to making.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, and these guys are highly skilled athletes. You know,
we always say the last thing we want to do
is take away play. You know, their playmaking and creativity
when the game gets us in space, by all means,
I want those guys skating and cutting laterally and drop
passing and sauce and pucks doing all that good stuff,
you know, but our team is always our identity has
always been kind of hard skilled, like you gotta drive,
you usually have back pressure, you have guys checking you,
(03:47):
you have to be able to play with a body
on you, and yeah, so I think it was just
kind of neat.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like we talked.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
As a group after Friday and said, hey, there's a
lot of good things. We never attack a win, but
we also said, hey, we evaluate the performance, not the result.
We thought we did a lot of good things, but
in the second half we weren't quite as good. So
it was good to see that guys were taking kind
of heart and saying, hey, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Put pucks ahead. And yeah, when Willie did it, that
was nice to see that. You know, he put it in.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He got on hard in the fore check and we
got to go play in the offensive zone because of it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So guys recognize that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And they were giving him a tap when he came off,
And you know, I think, for like you say, for
a young player, that that's part of our culture, it's
part of our identity, and the fact that he kind
of bought in right away was cool to see.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Gibson Homer, the goaltender that you went with over the weekend,
a bigger, longer goaltender that people are familiar with because
he has a track record in the NCCHC. Certainly having
him in the pipes it is, you know, it just
gives I think right now, the way he played in
the opening weekend gives the guys playing in front of
him a lot of confidence in the way that he's playing.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely, you know, he's he's got a lot of He's
got a calm demeanor too about him. He's a real
presence field guy, you know, in the locker room and
in the gym, just kind of a sharp young man.
And I think when you see that, and then you
couple that with the big time saves aiden, you know,
just how strong and kind of composed he was, definitely
makes our guys, you know, feel confident and you know,
(05:07):
when you make a mistake and your goalie bails you out,
it's it's a nice feeling. So they're pretty happy with
Gabrier right now.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We looked at the numbers of your Frenchman Cole Reshne
with it from the faceoff dot and I was thinking
about this because I saw last night for the Winnipeg Jets,
Jonathan Taves, former North Dakota standout and NHL Standout captain
of a handful of Stanley Cups. I think his numbers
were like fifteen to five in the DOT, and at
(05:34):
this stage end of his career, you'd say, well, maybe
it drops off the edge. He wants to win those draws.
Cole Reshneye goes into the draw, into the faceoff dot.
He wants to win those.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, And that's why we're so excited to have Cole
reshtie we when we recruited him and he resonated with
the U and D and chose us.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
He's a really good two hundred foot player. You know.
People say, oh, you know whatever, he.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Scored ninety points in sixty games in the in the
Western Hockey League. But I think the fact when you
watch him play, he's got a lot of substance to
his game. He stops and starts, he defends, he keeps
inside body possession position, he he finishes, you know, through
the body all the time. He just does a lot
of good things that strong hockey players do. And then
he's got that you know, that special vision, that kind
(06:15):
of high end skill ability to score kind of those
things that you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Really teach guys. So it's pretty pretty Uh, it's a
great place.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
To start when you have a centermen that kind of
have those habits and details and you know, kind of
and quite often it comes down to kind of a
care to play defense because you know, we talk about,
you know, earning the right to play offense by kind
of checking.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, speaking of earning the right to play, I don't
envy your staff's job when you're looking through your blue
line players right now and how tight essentially, when you've
got to dive into probably some really hard data in
the details of who's going to get to be in
the lineup on that blue line from night to night,
because it's got to be really tight.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Certainly, you know you have some special players. You know,
Jake Levanovic can do some things that will not a
lot of people can do. But there's not a lot
of difference between a lot of those other guys and
what they can do and how they can play the game.
And you have a lot of guys to choo strom
and and I think at least through the opening weekend, boy,
they put a lot of good resumes out there for
you to pick from.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, for sure, you know obviously, uh you know, Livnoviche
and we even Zamolac. Those guys are you know, maybe
played a little bit more and got some higher end
uh you know, money in the bank with our staff
and stuff. But you know, the fact of you know,
both Strathman and Jubenville, we're really really strong on Friday,
and you know, and then we added out obviously e
(07:34):
j Emory NHL first round pick out there. So you know,
we we we pulled uh Lrille out of the lineup.
We talked to him and said, hey, it wasn't anything
he didn't do well. We're just you know, the guys
that uh, you know, we're a little bit stronger at
this point, we're gonna be put tuning guys in and
out of the lineup, and it's just at the start
of the start of the year is always like that.
Everybody's healthy and ready to go. We've we've seen over
(07:56):
the years there's always injuries and guys will get in
and out of there. We we believe in all of them,
and that's it's great to have depth in your side.
You know, you make those hard decisions, but you just
tell the guys, hey, it has it's not really not
much about you, it's about our team, and you just
keep working and grinding and be ready for the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How many guys do you you know, do you work
with now on penalty kill, like, especially in your forward
group if it's just a standard you know, five on
four and you're down a man. How many guys in
your roster do you feel comfortable with being in a
rotation as part of your penalty kill? How many guys
do you envision in that role?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, Well, we always like to say, like a regular shift,
we're kind of we say about forty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Three seconds as the market you should be out there, okay,
And the.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
NHL stat says if you stay out after forty three seconds,
you're twice as likely to get scored on as you
will score Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, so that's a turn get off the ice. Yeah.
But and in penalty killing you're working extra hards. We
liked those shifts to be thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So well, ideally, Paul, if you if you are spot on,
if you could do it, you have kind of two
groups and you'd have they go out there thirty seconds
and you roll through.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Eight different guys.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Really, but quite often you can't get off to as
that easily, so sometimes you get through six. But yeah,
we'll practice, we'll use your practice about eight guys, about
four different groups of two to kind of go through
and be a pair for the penalty kill.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, because you know, you look at somebody that we've
gotten to know over the years, and Dylan James and
just his speed in the way that he can force
some interesting decisions, and certainly he's one of the guys
that you rely upon. But I come from an era
where you know, I went to every game when Scott
Dube was just harassing people back there. And you know
that's a name, right, that's a name of what he
would do on the penalty kill. And so that's where
(09:39):
I take a lot of joy. I know, we don't
want to be on them, but I do watch those
guys and kind of the guys because you know, the
staff relies on a they're gonna make good choices, they're
gonna play their tails off to try to create, you know,
some things and at least clear the puck. And so
I just those are the guys I tend to gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, well I do too. Dylan James an elite penalty killer.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think he's probably one of the best in our
league and therefore probably one of the best in the country.
His speed is his defensive instincts are outstanding. We've seen
We've seen Zakresky be good. We've seen Ali Josephs and kill.
Cody Kroll is very good. You know, rick Wood has
got a good stick, and he starts and gets us
a lot of draws.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cold Resting is killed.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So we've got a lot of good players that kind
of buy into that shot blocking and and doing the
kind of the hard, greasy stuff to help both their teammateers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Took a penalty before I get you into your last questions,
how many people here are ready for Friday and Saturday
night at relevant goes to arena. That's good, That's there's
a different electricity. Let's just be perfectly honest. There was
when I was a student waiting in line to get
into the old building, try to order a pizza to
get you know, some food before you get in, and
(10:51):
and you know, it's a it's a special series. It
was special when it was the w C h A.
It continues to be even in a non COmON diference way,
because they are meaningful games. They're hugely meaningful, and the
challenge of Minnesota North Dakota. It's a clash of a
little bit of styles and things of that nature. Looking
forward to this one, aren't you Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Absolutely? You know.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I know when I came here back in nineteen eighty
eight and played, it was always it was kind of
built into you right away that hey, these, uh, all
the games are important, but this is.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
A this is a special rivalry.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You know, it's been going on for years and years,
and like I say, there's a They're a great program obviously,
you know, obviously one of the best in the country
every year.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So we're excited to line up and match up and
just make sure.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
We're making it a you know, a highly competitive, physical,
intense battle. They get a lot of skilled guys that
can skate. We think we've got a lot of real
good hockey players too, and we're just excited to kind
of strap up and and and make it a man's
game and make sure that Ralph is a hostile.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Environment for him.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Is that still their formula, is their ability to be
so skillful and they they still play to that identity.
I know with coach Moscow, I mean I thought maybe
it would be slow slightly different, but they just have
so many of those guys that they can turn to
that can and why not play that way when you
have that much skill in your lineup.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, they got special players, so you know, they play hard.
They they're well coached. They have good discipline as well
for sure, But yeah, end of the day, it's a
kind of rivalry. It just comes down to I think
a lot about you know, who's most prepared and who's
willing to kind of do the small details and sacrifice
to kind of make the hard little plays because there's
not much space out there, and everybody's their prideful bunch
(12:29):
and they're competing, and it just comes down to, you know,
the willingness to kind of get to the net and
defend hard and kind of manage the puck some of
those things that aren't really that exciting to talk about,
but you know, the team that does the most things
is kind of relentless over the sixty minutes to just
do do the hard things all the time usually.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Comes out on top.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I have to know this after this will be my
dumb question of the night, everybody, So just bear with us.
After all these years of coaching for as long as
you have how many suits must you have now? Basically
to select from from a weekend? I mean, like, is
your do you have one closet full of suits now?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is that where you're at? I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Unfortunately, I've had to buy some different sizes over the year.
Over the years, it's always hard to find green ties.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I find though, isn't it once you find when you
got to grab it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know, So we're always kind of looking for green
ties wherever I go. So that's my biggest challenge usually.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, I tell you what, we're looking forward to, whatever
tie you're able to come up with here Friday and
Saturday night. We certainly enjoyed the weekend that was, but
we know that it's always the next one ahead and
this is going to be a fun one at Ralph
Finglested Arena. Coach Jackson, great to see you, Thanks for
coming out tonight. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Thanks Paul all.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Dane Jackson, head coach of North Dakota Hockey. We
appreciate him dropping by. It's a big week for North
Dkota Hockey and for fandom because when it's North Dakota, Minnesota,
it's just going to be uh super special. I've only
been asked for tickets for about I don't know, seven,
eight nine people today going with the seven, I don't
have any wish I did, but I just don't have any.
(14:05):
But we for those that are able to get into
the building, you're gonna have a great time both nights
at ralf Fingolstad Arena. So when we return, we're gonna
talk a little soccer. Why well, they've got a big
weekend ahead for you Indy soccer, but also they just
took down the in state rival. We'll talk with Henrik
soon as North Dakota Soccer's on the dock at next
As we continue with more Hawk talk all across the
(14:27):
Fighting Hawks Radio Network,
And we welcome you back here to another segment of Hawk
Talk downtown Grand Forks. I'm Paul Ralston on this Tuesday night.
It's Polish and we've already made the turn to the
ice as North to Go To Hockey managed to pick
up a couple of wins over the weekend, a little
unique Friday Sunday home and Home and for the first time,
head coach Dane Jackson joins the broadcast. Everybody exciting to
(00:21):
have coach Jackson here and coach you know, tell you what,
here's the thing about college hockey. They don't stand on ceremony.
Each game is so important right out to the gate.
You hate to talk about it, but it is. And
you know, your team came out. I just on Friday night.
I was just so pleased with the jump and the
type of play that they were playing in that opening period.
(00:42):
What about you and your staff? What were you thinking
in that first period?
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yeah, it was nice to see.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Just like you say, there's you know, you do lots
of x'es and o's, and that's important. But the biggest
thing we talked about is to compete in the battle
and the energy and kind of the fire to play.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
You know you and d hockey.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
So that was really good to see the guys jump
out and just just play, not be worried about making mistakes,
just play on instincts, play fast and and play.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
On the edge. So it was really good to you know,
kind of jump them and get that lead.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
And then I thought, we you know, got a little
bit loose after that with our puck management stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But that's kind of human nature, I think, once you
get up. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
One of the things that you know, I think people
took away too. You know they look at a line chart,
which now is on social media, and when they put
it out there and they see who's listed as fourth.
But you guys don't necessarily label your lines. But you know,
you look at the line of Littler Kroll and and
you know that youngster that you brought in from the
dovesze Kresky. You know, they just I was telling Tim,
(01:38):
we were just discussing this the other day, I said,
what impressed me about those guys. They don't care about
how the other team wants to play. They're just like, well,
if we have to dump it in and chase it,
we'll go find it if we want to. If we
can play straight ahead and gain entry with the puck
on our stick. We'll do it that way. They I
just kind of enjoy the simplicity of which of how
they play.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Yeah, And we actually highlighted those guys in the video
the next day about you know, them doing that having
so much success. You know, because obviously to Kate Entry,
we know those are great chances and guys want to
make fancy plays and do that, but if team's checking,
well sometimes you can't.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
You just gonna take what the game gives you. And
those guys did a great.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Job of kind of having the humility and wherewithal to
just say, hey, we're gonna put pucks ahead, and then
they they ground and cut back and got to the
net for rebounds and create a good chances just in
the ozone cycle. So really really nice. It's nice to
see those guys have success and you know they've worked hard.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
They like you say, there, they were.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Our best line on on Friday night, and you know,
just because they were playing hard and playing the right way.
They all got good hockey sense, they got good ability,
but they were playing with an edge and Cody Crowle
was getting in there and first on the fore checks,
the chrisky was doing a good job. Body and guys
and kids always got such a good stick. When he's
around the net, he's he's dangerous.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's one thing for a coach to go over and
really detail and and you know, go up to the
monitor and and showcase. But you know, I think I
read or heard on Saturday like Zeller's obviously is a
skill player and has probably had more skill than a
lot of guys he's gone up with over the course
of his young career in the levels of hockey that
(03:07):
he's played. But it was his teammates from the bench
after he made a simple play on like a dump in.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, that are encourage him.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
And think about what that does to a young man
when they get it from their own team from the bench,
and the encouragement of making a play like that that
they're not necessarily accustomed to making.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, and these guys are highly skilled athletes. You know,
we always say the last thing we want to do
is take away play. You know, their playmaking and creativity
when the game gets us in space, by all means,
I want those guys skating and cutting laterally and drop
passing and sauce and pucks doing all that good stuff,
you know, but our team is always our identity has
always been kind of hard skilled, like you gotta drive,
you usually have back pressure, you have guys checking you,
(03:47):
you have to be able to play with a body
on you, and yeah, so I think it was just
kind of neat.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Like we talked.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
As a group after Friday and said, hey, there's a
lot of good things. We never attack a win, but
we also said, hey, we evaluate the performance, not the result.
We thought we did a lot of good things, but
in the second half we weren't quite as good. So
it was good to see that guys were taking kind
of heart and saying, hey, we're gonna.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Put pucks ahead. And yeah, when Willie did it, that
was nice to see that. You know, he put it in.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
He got on hard in the fore check and we
got to go play in the offensive zone because of it.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
So guys recognize that.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And they were giving him a tap when he came off,
And you know, I think, for like you say, for
a young player, that that's part of our culture, it's
part of our identity, and the fact that he kind
of bought in right away was cool to see.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Gibson Homer, the goaltender that you went with over the weekend,
a bigger, longer goaltender that people are familiar with because
he has a track record in the NCCHC. Certainly having
him in the pipes it is, you know, it just
gives I think right now, the way he played in
the opening weekend gives the guys playing in front of
him a lot of confidence in the way that he's playing.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely, you know, he's he's got a lot of He's
got a calm demeanor too about him. He's a real
presence field guy, you know, in the locker room and
in the gym, just kind of a sharp young man.
And I think when you see that, and then you
couple that with the big time saves aiden, you know,
just how strong and kind of composed he was, definitely
makes our guys, you know, feel confident and you know,
(05:07):
when you make a mistake and your goalie bails you out,
it's it's a nice feeling. So they're pretty happy with
Gabrier right now.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
We looked at the numbers of your Frenchman Cole Reshne
with it from the faceoff dot and I was thinking
about this because I saw last night for the Winnipeg Jets,
Jonathan Taves, former North Dakota standout and NHL Standout captain
of a handful of Stanley Cups. I think his numbers
were like fifteen to five in the DOT, and at
(05:34):
this stage end of his career, you'd say, well, maybe
it drops off the edge. He wants to win those draws.
Cole Reshneye goes into the draw, into the faceoff dot.
He wants to win those.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Yeah, And that's why we're so excited to have Cole
reshtie we when we recruited him and he resonated with
the U and D and chose us.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
He's a really good two hundred foot player. You know.
People say, oh, you know whatever, he.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Scored ninety points in sixty games in the in the
Western Hockey League. But I think the fact when you
watch him play, he's got a lot of substance to
his game. He stops and starts, he defends, he keeps
inside body possession position, he he finishes, you know, through
the body all the time. He just does a lot
of good things that strong hockey players do. And then
he's got that you know, that special vision, that kind
(06:15):
of high end skill ability to score kind of those
things that you can't.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Really teach guys. So it's pretty pretty Uh, it's a
great place.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
To start when you have a centermen that kind of
have those habits and details and you know, kind of
and quite often it comes down to kind of a
care to play defense because you know, we talk about,
you know, earning the right to play offense by kind
of checking.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well, speaking of earning the right to play, I don't
envy your staff's job when you're looking through your blue
line players right now and how tight essentially, when you've
got to dive into probably some really hard data in
the details of who's going to get to be in
the lineup on that blue line from night to night,
because it's got to be really tight.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Now.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Certainly, you know you have some special players. You know,
Jake Levanovic can do some things that will not a
lot of people can do. But there's not a lot
of difference between a lot of those other guys and
what they can do and how they can play the game.
And you have a lot of guys to choo strom
and and I think at least through the opening weekend, boy,
they put a lot of good resumes out there for
you to pick from.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Yeah, for sure, you know obviously, uh you know, Livnoviche
and we even Zamolac. Those guys are you know, maybe
played a little bit more and got some higher end
uh you know, money in the bank with our staff
and stuff. But you know, the fact of you know,
both Strathman and Jubenville, we're really really strong on Friday,
and you know, and then we added out obviously e
(07:34):
j Emory NHL first round pick out there. So you know,
we we we pulled uh Lrille out of the lineup.
We talked to him and said, hey, it wasn't anything
he didn't do well. We're just you know, the guys
that uh, you know, we're a little bit stronger at
this point, we're gonna be put tuning guys in and
out of the lineup, and it's just at the start
of the start of the year is always like that.
Everybody's healthy and ready to go. We've we've seen over
(07:56):
the years there's always injuries and guys will get in
and out of there. We we believe in all of them,
and that's it's great to have depth in your side.
You know, you make those hard decisions, but you just
tell the guys, hey, it has it's not really not
much about you, it's about our team, and you just
keep working and grinding and be ready for the opportunity.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
How many guys do you you know, do you work
with now on penalty kill, like, especially in your forward
group if it's just a standard you know, five on
four and you're down a man. How many guys in
your roster do you feel comfortable with being in a
rotation as part of your penalty kill? How many guys
do you envision in that role?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah, Well, we always like to say, like a regular shift,
we're kind of we say about forty.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Three seconds as the market you should be out there, okay,
And the.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
NHL stat says if you stay out after forty three seconds,
you're twice as likely to get scored on as you
will score Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, so that's a turn get off the ice. Yeah.
But and in penalty killing you're working extra hards. We
liked those shifts to be thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
So well, ideally, Paul, if you if you are spot on,
if you could do it, you have kind of two
groups and you'd have they go out there thirty seconds
and you roll through.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Eight different guys.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
Really, but quite often you can't get off to as
that easily, so sometimes you get through six. But yeah,
we'll practice, we'll use your practice about eight guys, about
four different groups of two to kind of go through
and be a pair for the penalty kill.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Yeah, because you know, you look at somebody that we've
gotten to know over the years, and Dylan James and
just his speed in the way that he can force
some interesting decisions, and certainly he's one of the guys
that you rely upon. But I come from an era
where you know, I went to every game when Scott
Dube was just harassing people back there. And you know
that's a name, right, that's a name of what he
would do on the penalty kill. And so that's where
(09:39):
I take a lot of joy. I know, we don't
want to be on them, but I do watch those
guys and kind of the guys because you know, the
staff relies on a they're gonna make good choices, they're
gonna play their tails off to try to create, you know,
some things and at least clear the puck. And so
I just those are the guys I tend to gravitate towards.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Yeah, well I do too. Dylan James an elite penalty killer.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think he's probably one of the best in our
league and therefore probably one of the best in the country.
His speed is his defensive instincts are outstanding. We've seen
We've seen Zakresky be good. We've seen Ali Josephs and kill.
Cody Kroll is very good. You know, rick Wood has
got a good stick, and he starts and gets us
a lot of draws.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Cold Resting is killed.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
So we've got a lot of good players that kind
of buy into that shot blocking and and doing the
kind of the hard, greasy stuff to help both their teammateers.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Took a penalty before I get you into your last questions,
how many people here are ready for Friday and Saturday
night at relevant goes to arena. That's good, That's there's
a different electricity. Let's just be perfectly honest. There was
when I was a student waiting in line to get
into the old building, try to order a pizza to
get you know, some food before you get in, and
(10:51):
and you know, it's a it's a special series. It
was special when it was the w C h A.
It continues to be even in a non COmON diference way,
because they are meaningful games. They're hugely meaningful, and the
challenge of Minnesota North Dakota. It's a clash of a
little bit of styles and things of that nature. Looking
forward to this one, aren't you Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Absolutely? You know.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
I know when I came here back in nineteen eighty
eight and played, it was always it was kind of
built into you right away that hey, these, uh, all
the games are important, but this is.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
A this is a special rivalry.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
You know, it's been going on for years and years,
and like I say, there's a They're a great program obviously,
you know, obviously one of the best in the country
every year.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
So we're excited to line up and match up and
just make sure.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
We're making it a you know, a highly competitive, physical,
intense battle. They get a lot of skilled guys that
can skate. We think we've got a lot of real
good hockey players too, and we're just excited to kind
of strap up and and and make it a man's
game and make sure that Ralph is a hostile.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Environment for him.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Is that still their formula, is their ability to be
so skillful and they they still play to that identity.
I know with coach Moscow, I mean I thought maybe
it would be slow slightly different, but they just have
so many of those guys that they can turn to
that can and why not play that way when you
have that much skill in your lineup.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Yeah, they got special players, so you know, they play hard.
They they're well coached. They have good discipline as well
for sure, But yeah, end of the day, it's a
kind of rivalry. It just comes down to I think
a lot about you know, who's most prepared and who's
willing to kind of do the small details and sacrifice
to kind of make the hard little plays because there's
not much space out there, and everybody's their prideful bunch
(12:29):
and they're competing, and it just comes down to, you know,
the willingness to kind of get to the net and
defend hard and kind of manage the puck some of
those things that aren't really that exciting to talk about,
but you know, the team that does the most things
is kind of relentless over the sixty minutes to just
do do the hard things all the time usually.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Comes out on top.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
I have to know this after this will be my
dumb question of the night, everybody, So just bear with us.
After all these years of coaching for as long as
you have how many suits must you have now? Basically
to select from from a weekend? I mean, like, is
your do you have one closet full of suits now?
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Is that where you're at? I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Unfortunately, I've had to buy some different sizes over the year.
Over the years, it's always hard to find green ties.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I find though, isn't it once you find when you
got to grab it?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I know, So we're always kind of looking for green
ties wherever I go. So that's my biggest challenge usually.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Well, I tell you what, we're looking forward to, whatever
tie you're able to come up with here Friday and
Saturday night. We certainly enjoyed the weekend that was, but
we know that it's always the next one ahead and
this is going to be a fun one at Ralph
Finglested Arena. Coach Jackson, great to see you, Thanks for
coming out tonight. Good luck this weekend.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Thanks Paul all.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Right, Dane Jackson, head coach of North Dakota Hockey. We
appreciate him dropping by. It's a big week for North
Dkota Hockey and for fandom because when it's North Dakota, Minnesota,
it's just going to be uh super special. I've only
been asked for tickets for about I don't know, seven,
eight nine people today going with the seven, I don't
have any wish I did, but I just don't have any.
(14:05):
But we for those that are able to get into
the building, you're gonna have a great time both nights
at ralf Fingolstad Arena. So when we return, we're gonna
talk a little soccer. Why well, they've got a big
weekend ahead for you Indy soccer, but also they just
took down the in state rival. We'll talk with Henrik
soon as North Dakota Soccer's on the dock at next
As we continue with more Hawk talk all across the
(14:27):
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