December 2, 2025 • 21 mins
UND Head Football Coach Eric Schmidt discussed the importance of recruiting the right players and helping them reach their goals in order to be successful. He emphasized building strong relationships, developing and retaining players, and guiding them to become the best versions of themselves. Schmidt also reflected on the team’s 31–6 win over Tennessee Tech, noting that while the result was strong, he believes they could have played even better. He said the players may have had the playoffs on their minds, but they still came out focused and performed well. Looking ahead to the upcoming matchup with Tarleton State, Schmidt acknowledged that they are a great football team with a talented offense. He continues to teach his players belief, confidence, and the importance of putting in the work to succeed.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
It is Honk Talk tonight. We welcome you back to
it and Lin, I've been signed to five oh six
Pump Hugoes, Pure Market, Downtown Grand Forks again, stop and
see us. We've got plenty of room for you tonight.
We'll be here till about seven o'clock with a great
trio of you and he coaches to kind of recamp
look ahead and you can just get caught up on
a nice Tuesday nights and pleased of course as always
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to be joined by our first guests of the Knights,
who's got a busy week that he's in the heart of.
But like you mentioned, Schmidt, it's a it's a good
problem to have, So thank you for giving us a
couple of minutes and maybe a chance for you to
catch your breath a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Maybe, yeah, get out and take a walk here for
a little bit, and on the phone a lot here
today And obviously, uh, it's a good feeling just to
uh to be able to be playing and uh and
signing days right around the corner here tomorrow. And guys
have done a great job. Obviously you need uh, you know,
the right butts in the right seats around you in
order to uh to be able to pull some of
these things off. And I feel like Darnell Duck at
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our director player personnel, has done a great job getting
number of these guys to the finish line. We're still
you know, grinding away on a few of them yet
to make sure that that they signed the right one
tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And I think that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You recruit the right kids, and you got to recruit
them all the way until signing day. That's how you
know you got a good player and somebody that's you know,
high they sought after.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And we'll do a good job.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I don't know if we bat a thousand, but we'll
get We'll get Dan close here tomorrow. So I'm excited
to h to make it official with a bunch of
you know, future fighting Hawks here coming down the some
of the guys even show up in January. Well, the
number guys that'll come, you know an early en role.
So it'll be fun to get those guys on campus
and get started locking arms with them and helping them
reach their goals.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And of course before we get into the FCS action,
both last weekend and looking ahead to just Senior Day
and what it really stood out to me is your
comment about how you want to make sure that you're
not taking anything away from that with as busy as
you guys are, you still want to make sure that
tomorrow that's the focus. And that just really jumps out
to me as a fan because that just shows the
culture and everything that you guys are doing behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, that's the number one thing I always think.
You know that you know, you get in the fall,
you get into game day, like you you you owe
it to those guys in your locker room to make
sure that you're you know, giving them their your very
very best so that they can have an opportunity to win,
to have a great experience, to reach their goals and
uh and that's important to me, you know, and important
our staff to make sure that you know that we
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don't cut any corners there and that we take care
of the guys that are in the program and give
them the best opportunity to be successful.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And then, you know, now as we start.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
To you know, talk a little bit more here, you know,
getting closer to signing day and things like that, it's
important once again that you're always having good young talent,
you know, come into your program. I think, you know,
successful places to me, if you want to stay in success,
it's talent and culture, you know. And so so tomorrow
is a big deal for us. We want to continue
to build our program through the high schools. You know,
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I think that's still you know, the best way to
be able to to be able to build depth, to
be able to develop you know, relationships, and and to
be able to you know, make sure that kids stay
in your locker room. I mean, it's recruiting, it's it's
in development, and then it's retaining players. And you saw
some of that, you know, even this year and this weekend.
You know, some of our best players I've felt like
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showed up, you know, at the most important moments and
UH and are having their best seasons now, you know,
this year. So that's a credit to to our coaches
and and just the uh you know, the amount of
work that goes into you. You know, you're pouring into
guys every single day, and UH and and our guys
you know, putting in real work, Like they pursue the work,
they seek the work. They're not trying to negotiate with
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it and try to figure out what they have to do.
You know what parts of the of their job description
that they have to do, they do it all, you know,
and I think that's really important. I think the best
players have that type of mindset. And our players have
grown and gotten better here.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And quite honestly, let's just make it a normal thing
that we're having to deal with this in the middle
of the playoff games. That seems too simple, right.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, I think yeah, I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Like the goal and the expectation of our program should
be that, you know, December football becomes something that's not
a you know, you know, something that's an oddity, that
it's something that we can do every single year. Now
takes work, and you got to we have to be
able to prove that. But it's definitely I feel like,
you know, something that that can be expected from our
program just with the you know, the amount of support
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you know, from the top down as far as administration
and you know what we have going on over on
the corner of Red Gerrit Way in Columbia. Now, Like
there's a lot of good things that players can can
see and that they can come there and that they
can become the best versions of themselves. So we got
to continue to do a good job on the recruiting
trail and continue to you know, make sure that that
that you know, players from the Upper Midwest and all
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over the country. Like there's a guy that we think
that's going to help move the neal for us, no
matter where he's from, We're going to go and recruit
that person and and really try to do a good
job of selling our university. But we can help those guys,
you know, become the best versions of themselves and help
them be able to reach their goals right here in
Grand Forks.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And you mentioned December football. You've earned that opportunity by
how you ended November and on the Tennessee Tech come
away with a thirty one to six victory. Congratulations first
and foremost on that. But like you said, it wasn't
pretty at the start, but you've found a way take
us through Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, I thought, you know, defensively, we really didn't
feel like we played very well against South Dakota State,
and a lot of it was you know, me and
and our and our staff, which just you know, it
just took us too long. There's a few adjustments that
we wanted to be able to make, and you know,
needed to make a decision soon around the sidelines as
far as how we wanted to defend a few things,
and you know, got to it a little bit before
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halftime and obviously gave up seven points. But I just
felt like our guys were a little bit off. And
I don't know if it was that or the senior
day or the you know, the moment too as well. Obviously,
you know, you're in a big game late in the
season for like, you got to win, you know, to
be able to make sure that you guarantee a spot
in the playoffs and all that. So moving from that
week to the next week, getting in I really felt
like our defense felt like, you know, we could play better,
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that there was a chip on their shoulder, that there
was some pride.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
In there that they were going to come out and
play well. And they did.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You know, I think you look at Tech Tennessee text offense,
I mean, the best offense in the Big South Slash LVC.
They had the player of the year at quarterback. You know,
they had scored a ton of points against everybody in
their league. So to be able to go down there
and you know, create six takeaways, you know, another four
or another three excuse me, fourth down stops. That's nine
possessions that you know, we took over. Our offense took
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over after after we left the field. So I thought
that was really big. And then you know, offensively, it
was a it was a struggle at times. We're a
little bit out of sync. You know, just seemed like,
you know, well, for whatever reason, you know, guys open,
we don't put it on them, we.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Don't throw it to them.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, had some opportunities to be able, I thought,
to be able to you know, steal some yards in
some of the screen game and stuff like that. But
just it was one of those days where you know,
we just didn't feel like, you know, that we were
clicking and that we were in sync. But I thought
the fourth quarter, you know, get the end of the
third and the fourth quarter was really big for us,
just you know, our guys up front taking control of
the game. And then you got to see all four
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of the running backs in the game, a you know,
three of them scored and and really, you know, I
felt like we we kind of bullied them in the
fourth quarter and lean on them a little bit and
uh and and eventually you were able to create some
separation and pull away.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And something you know you mentioned offensively right running and different.
You've gone through it a few of the games towards
the end of the year. Can you draw on that
experience too to kind of help you guys stick with it,
especially with the way the defense was going.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, I think that was the biggest thing, was offensively
and really our whole team when you watch it, I'm
big in a you know after the game, watching the
sidelines and just trying to see and feel the energy
that was that was a part of that game. And
it didn't matter, you know, like as soon as you know,
the good or bad offense or defense, you know, whatever
happened the series before or the play before, like they
were up on the sideline ready to go, excited to
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get you know, back.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Out on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There was just that thought of starving mindset throughout our
entire team that no matter what happened, it was still
what now what we were going to be able to
handle it and and and that there was going to
be you know, a positive outcoming out. That was something
that we really emphasized with our guys was you know,
first of all, block out the noise. You know, there
was a lot of you know, talk and things like
that about getting into the playoffs and who we were
playing and all those types of things, and we really
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wanted to, you know, to lock the doors, shut the windows,
you know, just really you know, disappear in the work
and the preparation that we were going to have to
put in order to be successful.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And I thought our guys did that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
We reappeared Saturday morning, you know, ready to play, and
I think that was you know, really really you know,
a lesson for our guys as far as what it
takes again once again to get mentally ready to ready
to play.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And then I thought the fourth quarter. The other thing
we talked about was.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Hey, we need to get in a situation where we're
in a close game starting the fourth quarter and then
we go and dominate the fourth quarter and win the game.
We just hadn't done that in all the close games
that we played so far this year. We've been kind
of even, but at the end of those quarters, we
weren't able to pull out wins. And for us to
be able to do it that way, I thought was
a real confidence booster for our team.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And obviously you knew early on your defense was going
to keep you in it, give you a chance as
you're as you're finding your way. There was there a
play or a sequence in that second half where you went, Okay,
this thing is turned now and now we're really in
the driver's season.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I think, you know, making it a two score
game obviously, then on defense you're not as you know,
balled up and tight and things like that. Somebody falls
down all of a sudden you're behind when you're up
ten to six, so to go up seventeen to six,
and then three plays later Johnny wills Shire gets a
pick and then you know, I think you know, we
inserted Gavin in there kind of end of the third,
start of the fourth, and you know he started, you know,
getting downhill into the into the second level and really
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you know, running some physical runs and I just thought
it you could tell the momentum now like like it
kind of broke their back after that, you know, that
next score to make it twenty four to six, and
then you know, once again get the ball right back
and and then you know, Chuck broke about four or
five tackles there and scored his uh scored his touchdown
there too as well. So yeah, I think somewhere kind
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of in that, you know that the touchdown that we
scored and then getting the pick right after that, I
felt like, you know, the kind of the the energy
went out of the stadium and they didn't think like
there was a chance for them to be able to
win the game anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And maybe the one negative that comes out of it,
obviously is the situation with Jerry. But still plenty of
time now until Saturday, so you kind of go through
the process there and and prepare for what you may
be able to have at your disposal Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I mean there's there's a protocol that he has
to go through now, and you know, our docs will determine,
you know, where he's at as we go through the week,
and and uh, you know, Jerry's you know, Jerry's if
you you're he's really really competitive, He's tough, he wants
to play, you know, So we just got to do
a good job of managing him, protecting him, make sure
it's in his best interest to go out on the field,
and that he can he can go out there and
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be Jerry Kaminski, you know, number one. So he's you know,
right on schedule right now. We'll see kind of where
things are tomorrow. I think it's day by day. You know,
he's got some uh, some things that he's gonna have
to do here, you know, physically and and pass a
few tests. And if he does that, there's a you know,
an opportunity for him yet to play on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And unfortunately, if he can go the other side of that,
and the positive sign is that you've got a guy
with experience waiting in the wings. And and I don't
think it's just him. I think the rest of the
guys can rally or on that to do an extent campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think, yeah, you're right on.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
There's uh and Simon has that you know, just aura
about him, like I've said earlier in the season, like
he's addeered himself to our team.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He's just he's a great teammate.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, he'll stay after and help anybody, you know,
get better, spend time with anybody. I just think he's
a he's a class act, he's a he's a leader,
you know, and guys, like I said, they gravitate towards him.
So when he went in the game, there wasn't any
you know, here we go, like Simon's coming in the
game type of deal. Like, I think there was a
lot of confidence and who he was and that he
could move our football team. He did a really good job,
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you know, being able to you know, check us into
some right plays, especially on some short yardage plays. I
thought he was dialed in and and was able to
move the sticks and keep us on the field. So
I think, like you said, I think the one of
the hardest things to do in college football today, just
with the landscape of the transfer portal and all those things,
is to keep really you know, good backup quarterbacks on
your roster. If you have a junior, you know, or senior,
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most likely your next kid is going to be a
freshman or sophomore because guys know the depth chart and
know when there's going to be opportunities for them to
be able to play. So it tells you a lot
about you know, who Simon is as a Simon is
as a person too as well. He gets, you know,
obviously disappointed that he didn't win the job, but just
put his head down and went to work and you know,
figured out a way to be able to help our
football team. And now, you know, in one of the
biggest games of the year, like he'll have an opportunity,
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you know, to be able to help us go win.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And you mentioned that it is the biggest one now
and outside of the fact that Tarleton is not a state,
what do we know about Tarleton State and looking ahead?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, really good football team obviously, you know, a top
four football team in the country.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know, all year long.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Early on in the year, they they had probably one
of the best FCS wins in the country. They went
and beat Army. Army I think was a ten win
team a year ago and really you know, took off
from there. We saw them actually early in the year
we played Portland State Week two. They played Portland State
Week one, so there was some crossover that we got
to watch them early in the year. Now that seems
like three years ago now when you know, when you
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get to this point in the season. But really really
talented on offense as far as you know, probably the
best running back group that we'll see all year. Not
necessarily big guys, but guys that will make you miss
and when they get in the open field, like really
hard to tackle, twitched up, sudden guys that really have
a really good speed, you know, throughout their entire team,
if There's one thing I would say you probably expect
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that from the state of Texas is a lot of
their guys are from Texas to as well as a
lot of team speed. You know, you watch them run
down and kickoff, you watch them on special teams, and
there's guys that are you know, running by guys and
flying by people, and and that's been impressive. So he
got Offensively, their running backs are really impressive. They're big upfront,
and then they do a little bit of what we
call the slow mesh playoff of it. So it's not
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very common in college football. It's never been super common,
but you know, maybe four or five years ago it was.
It was a little bit more. You know, I think
ordinary or people were doing it more at that time.
But but you know, they'll the running back will kind
of walk into the play and the quarterback will ride
them along ways, and then that just allows their receivers
more time, you know, to be able to get open
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and get down the field. So we'll have to play
really really well at dB and the deep part of
the field. And then you know, like I said, we'll
have to make some space tackles on defense too as well.
And then their defense is really aggressive.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Lot of Cover one, it's a lot of Manda Man.
So we got to do a good job of you know,
hopefully having BJ back, he'll help us. He can beat
win one on ones. And then Dang Dang's done a
better job here the last three weeks of you know,
showing up and being productive and uh and starting to
kind of take that next step and evolve as a player.
So he's another guy that can be a tough matchup,
just you know, purely with his size and body type
out on the edge.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Same thing we asked you last week because you had
such a great answer for it. They do they compare
to a team you've either seen this year or a
team that we've seen in the valley.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, they're a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I feel like, you know, I really felt like Tennessee
Tech was similar to Youngstown as far as how they
played and their personnality.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
These guys. Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know
if there's truly a comparison.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think defensively, you know, they remind me maybe a
little bit of South Dakota, just you know, guys that
can run around and I think they're really athletic and
AGGRESSI them on the defensive side of the ball, but
offensively they're really unique. You know, Like I said, I
don't know how many teams are running the slow mesh plays.
They run it probably fifty five to sixty percent of
the time. It doesn't matter the down and distance, it
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doesn't matter where they're at on the field.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Wake Forest kind of, I don't want to say, invented it,
but really put it on the on the landscape of
college football probably eight nine, ten years ago, and then
a bunch of teams kind of copy didn't liked it,
and now it's kind of, you know, went the other
way a little bit as far as teams aren't doing it,
but they're bought into it. They've been super explosive. They're
averaging forty five points a game, so they do a
good job offensively. They've been able to outscore teams the
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games that they've lost. Their defenses, you know, they've been outscored.
You know, they've Their last game they played Austin p
was forty five forty four. They won in overtime, and
two weeks before that they lost to Avelene Christian. I
think it was thirty one to twenty eight. So they're
scoring points every single week. And they came back in
that game and scored eighteen late to just about winn
the football game.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So very explosive on offense. So I think for us
really important.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
For us offensively to establish some things to stay on
the field and to score points, you know, to be
able to match the momentum you know that they're doing
with their offense, I think will be really really important
for us.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You guys have always been even keeled throughout the year,
up down, updown. They just seemed to just stay consistent.
But could you feel a little that sweger come back
the way last Saturday's game ended and as it felt
like if that's the case that it's carried into this week.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I don't know if our guys are ever you know,
not confident and that they could go out there and have,
you know, win a football game. I mean we've never
been you know, up to this point right now, just
you know, left the football field going, hey, we weren't
even close today, you know, being able to compete with
that team, and these guys will be one of the
best teams that we've played all year. So we'll have
to continue to uh, you know, play at a high
level in order to uh to be able to be
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competitive and win. But I think there's always been a
you know, a confidence, a belief that that that's something
that I'm really big in. I mean, we're gonna do
everything we can to teach scheme to uh, to teach fundamentals,
you know, all those details that go into you know,
being a good football player and understanding how to strike
blocks and beat blocks and block people and tackle. But
the biggest thing that we can teach guys, I think
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the number one fundamentals belief and confidence. And I think
that's our guys leaning on the work that they've put
in all year. And I think that's what makes you
confident when comes to this point, is that you know
you've done everything that you need to do in order
to you know, go out there and be successful and
and uh, every single Sunday, I think our guys have
done a great job, like you said, as far as
being consistent of going back to neutral, you know, starting
back over that week and then putting in the work
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that winning requires. And that's the stuff that that's been
pretty pretty unique and pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Let's be one of your fans. She had a Darren
sign on it, so I sure I might have been
spelled wrong. Is there is there a benefit? Now you're
gonna have some familiarity this week, right, You're gonna get
on a plane Friday, So got a noon kicks Saturday.
So guys can just get right back into that rhythm.
Can you draw some benefit from them?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I mean it's the exact same schedule. It's uh, it's
almost the same bus ride in the morning. You know,
we stayed in Nashville last Saturday or last Friday Saturday morning,
woke up, drove about an hour to get to Cooksville.
This week, we'll stay in Fort Worth. We'll drive about
an hour to get to Stevensville.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Start at noon.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, it's kind of like, hey, just you know,
Groundhog's Day for our guys, Like, hey, I know what
to expect. It's wake up and you know Fort Worth
looks like Dashville, get to a hotel and you know
that type of deal, and get ready to go to
work the next day. I think, you know, the cool
thing and the neat thing about being on the on
the road is you know, it's just you and and
the guys and you get to spend some time, you
get to eat with them, you get to hang out
with them in the training room, in the recovery room,
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you get to you know, I really believe that, like
Friday night needs to be a you know, a relaxed focus.
I'm not a big like, hey, you can't talk at
a meal. I want everything quiet. I want I want
guys to you know, to be able to interact and
to be able to talk, and just to be able
to be themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I still think that you can, you know, you can.
You can be loose and still be buttoned up, you know,
and be disciplined and all those things. So that that's
the part I like right now. Just you know, I
think everybody knows what to expect. Travis Kalabau does everything
for us in a in a first class manner. Jan Hougen,
you know, just all those helpers and supporters that you know,
our guys have have really grown and to appreciate, like
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it's an attitude of gratitude for everything that goes on
for them to be able to to be successful, and
they understand it takes all those people, you know, in
order for them to go out there and uh and
and to be able to have an opportunity to be
able to go win a football game.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So before we let you go, obviously you mentioned a
lot of the keys coming into Saturday. But for us
watching listening at home, what are we going to see?
What are we going to hear to know that north
to Goot is in a good spot off the Hopper leans.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, I think offensively, it's important that we get off
to a good start and really I think establish the
line of scrimmage and then be able to throw the
catch and catch the ball and do some things on
the perimeter that I think, you know, can open up
some other things with our offense. If we can prove
that we can go win some one on ones on
the edges that you know, they can't just go play
man coverage all day long and and feel comfortable being
able to do that, that they're going to win those
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you know, fifty to fifty battles, so to speak. I
think that's something that's important that, you know, if we
can open some things up there, get explosive and do
some things in the air that open up what we
want to do on the ground, because I think that'll
be a huge deal is you know, can we continue
to generate first down, stay on the field and methodically
move the ball down the field. And then defensively, I think,
you know, it's going to be explosive plays. They're gonna throw,
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they're gonna take shots, probably more than anybody else that
we played all year. We're gonna see the ball, you know,
in the air forty fifty yards you know, routinely on
pretty much every drive, just based off of you know,
how long the quarterback holds on the ball and how
far the receivers get down the field. So we got
to be really good in the deep part of the
field as far as being able to defend receivers. And
then you know, like I said before, their running backs
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are really good players. So we're going to try to,
you know, do some things to to make sure that
we give them different reads and things like that, you know,
when he's when he's in that long mesh. But we
got we got to be able to tackle in space
too as well. Like those would be the two things
we can limit explosives. And then offensively we could get
off to a good start and prove that we can
you know, we can make some plays on the perimeter
I think we'll be in a decent spot all right
the rest.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
December Football, keep it going. I appreciate you stopping in tonight.
Best of luck on Saturday, and look forward to talking
again soon.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Sounds good, thanks Darren.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All right, that is Eric Schmidt, head football coach at
Undig on Funny Hawkes are preparing for the second round
of the FCS playoffs with Tarlton Staint. They'll get going
just after high noon deep in the heart of Texas
and you can catch many of you will join in
on the Funny Hawks radio network. Jack Michaels, it'll be him,
Mike Berg, Joill hight Camp, the on Light tailgate showing
eleven on Saturday as in Orticot looks to keep their
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FCS playoff run going. And then of course coming up
later Saturday and it'll be game too North to go
to Saint Cloud State. We'll get to that and more
in a moment, as we'll take a brief pause, come
back and catch up with our head hockey coach, Dan
Jackson said to join us.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We're still live inside the five oh six Pub inside
Hugos Peer Market downtown Grand Forks, and you've got Hawk
Talk right here and all along the Finding Hawks Radio network.
It is Honk Talk tonight. We welcome you back to
it and Lin, I've been signed to five oh six
Pump Hugoes, Pure Market, Downtown Grand Forks again, stop and
see us. We've got plenty of room for you tonight.
We'll be here till about seven o'clock with a great
trio of you and he coaches to kind of recamp
look ahead and you can just get caught up on
a nice Tuesday nights and pleased of course as always
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to be joined by our first guests of the Knights,
who's got a busy week that he's in the heart of.
But like you mentioned, Schmidt, it's a it's a good
problem to have, So thank you for giving us a
couple of minutes and maybe a chance for you to
catch your breath a little bit.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Maybe, yeah, get out and take a walk here for
a little bit, and on the phone a lot here
today And obviously, uh, it's a good feeling just to
uh to be able to be playing and uh and
signing days right around the corner here tomorrow. And guys
have done a great job. Obviously you need uh, you know,
the right butts in the right seats around you in
order to uh to be able to pull some of
these things off. And I feel like Darnell Duck at
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our director player personnel, has done a great job getting
number of these guys to the finish line. We're still
you know, grinding away on a few of them yet
to make sure that that they signed the right one
tomorrow morning.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
And I think that's how it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
You recruit the right kids, and you got to recruit
them all the way until signing day. That's how you
know you got a good player and somebody that's you know,
high they sought after.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
And we'll do a good job.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I don't know if we bat a thousand, but we'll
get We'll get Dan close here tomorrow. So I'm excited
to h to make it official with a bunch of
you know, future fighting Hawks here coming down the some
of the guys even show up in January. Well, the
number guys that'll come, you know an early en role.
So it'll be fun to get those guys on campus
and get started locking arms with them and helping them
reach their goals.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And of course before we get into the FCS action,
both last weekend and looking ahead to just Senior Day
and what it really stood out to me is your
comment about how you want to make sure that you're
not taking anything away from that with as busy as
you guys are, you still want to make sure that
tomorrow that's the focus. And that just really jumps out
to me as a fan because that just shows the
culture and everything that you guys are doing behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Yeah, I mean, that's the number one thing I always think.
You know that you know, you get in the fall,
you get into game day, like you you you owe
it to those guys in your locker room to make
sure that you're you know, giving them their your very
very best so that they can have an opportunity to win,
to have a great experience, to reach their goals and
uh and that's important to me, you know, and important
our staff to make sure that you know that we
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don't cut any corners there and that we take care
of the guys that are in the program and give
them the best opportunity to be successful.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
And then, you know, now as we start.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
To you know, talk a little bit more here, you know,
getting closer to signing day and things like that, it's
important once again that you're always having good young talent,
you know, come into your program. I think, you know,
successful places to me, if you want to stay in success,
it's talent and culture, you know. And so so tomorrow
is a big deal for us. We want to continue
to build our program through the high schools. You know,
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I think that's still you know, the best way to
be able to to be able to build depth, to
be able to develop you know, relationships, and and to
be able to you know, make sure that kids stay
in your locker room. I mean, it's recruiting, it's it's
in development, and then it's retaining players. And you saw
some of that, you know, even this year and this weekend.
You know, some of our best players I've felt like
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showed up, you know, at the most important moments and
UH and are having their best seasons now, you know,
this year. So that's a credit to to our coaches
and and just the uh you know, the amount of
work that goes into you. You know, you're pouring into
guys every single day, and UH and and our guys
you know, putting in real work, Like they pursue the work,
they seek the work. They're not trying to negotiate with
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it and try to figure out what they have to do.
You know what parts of the of their job description
that they have to do, they do it all, you know,
and I think that's really important. I think the best
players have that type of mindset. And our players have
grown and gotten better here.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
And quite honestly, let's just make it a normal thing
that we're having to deal with this in the middle
of the playoff games. That seems too simple, right.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, I think yeah, I think you're exactly right.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Like the goal and the expectation of our program should
be that, you know, December football becomes something that's not
a you know, you know, something that's an oddity, that
it's something that we can do every single year. Now
takes work, and you got to we have to be
able to prove that. But it's definitely I feel like,
you know, something that that can be expected from our
program just with the you know, the amount of support
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you know, from the top down as far as administration
and you know what we have going on over on
the corner of Red Gerrit Way in Columbia. Now, Like
there's a lot of good things that players can can
see and that they can come there and that they
can become the best versions of themselves. So we got
to continue to do a good job on the recruiting
trail and continue to you know, make sure that that
that you know, players from the Upper Midwest and all
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over the country. Like there's a guy that we think
that's going to help move the neal for us, no
matter where he's from, We're going to go and recruit
that person and and really try to do a good
job of selling our university. But we can help those guys,
you know, become the best versions of themselves and help
them be able to reach their goals right here in
Grand Forks.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
And you mentioned December football. You've earned that opportunity by
how you ended November and on the Tennessee Tech come
away with a thirty one to six victory. Congratulations first
and foremost on that. But like you said, it wasn't
pretty at the start, but you've found a way take
us through Saturday.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, yeah, I thought, you know, defensively, we really didn't
feel like we played very well against South Dakota State,
and a lot of it was you know, me and
and our and our staff, which just you know, it
just took us too long. There's a few adjustments that
we wanted to be able to make, and you know,
needed to make a decision soon around the sidelines as
far as how we wanted to defend a few things,
and you know, got to it a little bit before
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halftime and obviously gave up seven points. But I just
felt like our guys were a little bit off. And
I don't know if it was that or the senior
day or the you know, the moment too as well. Obviously,
you know, you're in a big game late in the
season for like, you got to win, you know, to
be able to make sure that you guarantee a spot
in the playoffs and all that. So moving from that
week to the next week, getting in I really felt
like our defense felt like, you know, we could play better,
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that there was a chip on their shoulder, that there
was some pride.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
In there that they were going to come out and
play well. And they did.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
You know, I think you look at Tech Tennessee text offense,
I mean, the best offense in the Big South Slash LVC.
They had the player of the year at quarterback. You know,
they had scored a ton of points against everybody in
their league. So to be able to go down there
and you know, create six takeaways, you know, another four
or another three excuse me, fourth down stops. That's nine
possessions that you know, we took over. Our offense took
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over after after we left the field. So I thought
that was really big. And then you know, offensively, it
was a it was a struggle at times. We're a
little bit out of sync. You know, just seemed like,
you know, well, for whatever reason, you know, guys open,
we don't put it on them, we.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Don't throw it to them.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
You know, had some opportunities to be able, I thought,
to be able to you know, steal some yards in
some of the screen game and stuff like that. But
just it was one of those days where you know,
we just didn't feel like, you know, that we were
clicking and that we were in sync. But I thought
the fourth quarter, you know, get the end of the
third and the fourth quarter was really big for us,
just you know, our guys up front taking control of
the game. And then you got to see all four
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of the running backs in the game, a you know,
three of them scored and and really, you know, I
felt like we we kind of bullied them in the
fourth quarter and lean on them a little bit and
uh and and eventually you were able to create some
separation and pull away.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
And something you know you mentioned offensively right running and different.
You've gone through it a few of the games towards
the end of the year. Can you draw on that
experience too to kind of help you guys stick with it,
especially with the way the defense was going.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Well, I think that was the biggest thing, was offensively
and really our whole team when you watch it, I'm
big in a you know after the game, watching the
sidelines and just trying to see and feel the energy
that was that was a part of that game. And
it didn't matter, you know, like as soon as you know,
the good or bad offense or defense, you know, whatever
happened the series before or the play before, like they
were up on the sideline ready to go, excited to
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get you know, back.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
Out on the field.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
There was just that thought of starving mindset throughout our
entire team that no matter what happened, it was still
what now what we were going to be able to
handle it and and and that there was going to
be you know, a positive outcoming out. That was something
that we really emphasized with our guys was you know,
first of all, block out the noise. You know, there
was a lot of you know, talk and things like
that about getting into the playoffs and who we were
playing and all those types of things, and we really
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wanted to, you know, to lock the doors, shut the windows,
you know, just really you know, disappear in the work
and the preparation that we were going to have to
put in order to be successful.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
And I thought our guys did that.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
We reappeared Saturday morning, you know, ready to play, and
I think that was you know, really really you know,
a lesson for our guys as far as what it
takes again once again to get mentally ready to ready
to play.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
And then I thought the fourth quarter. The other thing
we talked about was.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Hey, we need to get in a situation where we're
in a close game starting the fourth quarter and then
we go and dominate the fourth quarter and win the game.
We just hadn't done that in all the close games
that we played so far this year. We've been kind
of even, but at the end of those quarters, we
weren't able to pull out wins. And for us to
be able to do it that way, I thought was
a real confidence booster for our team.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
And obviously you knew early on your defense was going
to keep you in it, give you a chance as
you're as you're finding your way. There was there a
play or a sequence in that second half where you went, Okay,
this thing is turned now and now we're really in
the driver's season.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I think, you know, making it a two score
game obviously, then on defense you're not as you know,
balled up and tight and things like that. Somebody falls
down all of a sudden you're behind when you're up
ten to six, so to go up seventeen to six,
and then three plays later Johnny wills Shire gets a
pick and then you know, I think you know, we
inserted Gavin in there kind of end of the third,
start of the fourth, and you know he started, you know,
getting downhill into the into the second level and really
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you know, running some physical runs and I just thought
it you could tell the momentum now like like it
kind of broke their back after that, you know, that
next score to make it twenty four to six, and
then you know, once again get the ball right back
and and then you know, Chuck broke about four or
five tackles there and scored his uh scored his touchdown
there too as well. So yeah, I think somewhere kind
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of in that, you know that the touchdown that we
scored and then getting the pick right after that, I
felt like, you know, the kind of the the energy
went out of the stadium and they didn't think like
there was a chance for them to be able to
win the game anymore.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And maybe the one negative that comes out of it,
obviously is the situation with Jerry. But still plenty of
time now until Saturday, so you kind of go through
the process there and and prepare for what you may
be able to have at your disposal Saturday.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, I mean there's there's a protocol that he has
to go through now, and you know, our docs will determine,
you know, where he's at as we go through the week,
and and uh, you know, Jerry's you know, Jerry's if
you you're he's really really competitive, He's tough, he wants
to play, you know, So we just got to do
a good job of managing him, protecting him, make sure
it's in his best interest to go out on the field,
and that he can he can go out there and
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be Jerry Kaminski, you know, number one. So he's you know,
right on schedule right now. We'll see kind of where
things are tomorrow. I think it's day by day. You know,
he's got some uh, some things that he's gonna have
to do here, you know, physically and and pass a
few tests. And if he does that, there's a you know,
an opportunity for him yet to play on Saturday.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
And unfortunately, if he can go the other side of that,
and the positive sign is that you've got a guy
with experience waiting in the wings. And and I don't
think it's just him. I think the rest of the
guys can rally or on that to do an extent campaign.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I think, yeah, you're right on.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
There's uh and Simon has that you know, just aura
about him, like I've said earlier in the season, like
he's addeered himself to our team.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
He's just he's a great teammate.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You know, he'll stay after and help anybody, you know,
get better, spend time with anybody. I just think he's
a he's a class act, he's a he's a leader,
you know, and guys, like I said, they gravitate towards him.
So when he went in the game, there wasn't any
you know, here we go, like Simon's coming in the
game type of deal. Like, I think there was a
lot of confidence and who he was and that he
could move our football team. He did a really good job,
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you know, being able to you know, check us into
some right plays, especially on some short yardage plays. I
thought he was dialed in and and was able to
move the sticks and keep us on the field. So
I think, like you said, I think the one of
the hardest things to do in college football today, just
with the landscape of the transfer portal and all those things,
is to keep really you know, good backup quarterbacks on
your roster. If you have a junior, you know, or senior,
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most likely your next kid is going to be a
freshman or sophomore because guys know the depth chart and
know when there's going to be opportunities for them to
be able to play. So it tells you a lot
about you know, who Simon is as a Simon is
as a person too as well. He gets, you know,
obviously disappointed that he didn't win the job, but just
put his head down and went to work and you know,
figured out a way to be able to help our
football team. And now, you know, in one of the
biggest games of the year, like he'll have an opportunity,
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you know, to be able to help us go win.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
And you mentioned that it is the biggest one now
and outside of the fact that Tarleton is not a state,
what do we know about Tarleton State and looking ahead?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well, really good football team obviously, you know, a top
four football team in the country.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
You know, all year long.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Early on in the year, they they had probably one
of the best FCS wins in the country. They went
and beat Army. Army I think was a ten win
team a year ago and really you know, took off
from there. We saw them actually early in the year
we played Portland State Week two. They played Portland State
Week one, so there was some crossover that we got
to watch them early in the year. Now that seems
like three years ago now when you know, when you
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get to this point in the season. But really really
talented on offense as far as you know, probably the
best running back group that we'll see all year. Not
necessarily big guys, but guys that will make you miss
and when they get in the open field, like really
hard to tackle, twitched up, sudden guys that really have
a really good speed, you know, throughout their entire team,
if There's one thing I would say you probably expect
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that from the state of Texas is a lot of
their guys are from Texas to as well as a
lot of team speed. You know, you watch them run
down and kickoff, you watch them on special teams, and
there's guys that are you know, running by guys and
flying by people, and and that's been impressive. So he
got Offensively, their running backs are really impressive. They're big upfront,
and then they do a little bit of what we
call the slow mesh playoff of it. So it's not
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very common in college football. It's never been super common,
but you know, maybe four or five years ago it was.
It was a little bit more. You know, I think
ordinary or people were doing it more at that time.
But but you know, they'll the running back will kind
of walk into the play and the quarterback will ride
them along ways, and then that just allows their receivers
more time, you know, to be able to get open
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and get down the field. So we'll have to play
really really well at dB and the deep part of
the field. And then you know, like I said, we'll
have to make some space tackles on defense too as well.
And then their defense is really aggressive.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
It's a it's a.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Lot of Cover one, it's a lot of Manda Man.
So we got to do a good job of you know,
hopefully having BJ back, he'll help us. He can beat
win one on ones. And then Dang Dang's done a
better job here the last three weeks of you know,
showing up and being productive and uh and starting to
kind of take that next step and evolve as a player.
So he's another guy that can be a tough matchup,
just you know, purely with his size and body type
out on the edge.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
Same thing we asked you last week because you had
such a great answer for it. They do they compare
to a team you've either seen this year or a
team that we've seen in the valley.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, they're a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
I feel like, you know, I really felt like Tennessee
Tech was similar to Youngstown as far as how they
played and their personnality.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
These guys. Yeah, that's a great question. I don't know
if there's truly a comparison.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
I think defensively, you know, they remind me maybe a
little bit of South Dakota, just you know, guys that
can run around and I think they're really athletic and
AGGRESSI them on the defensive side of the ball, but
offensively they're really unique. You know, Like I said, I
don't know how many teams are running the slow mesh plays.
They run it probably fifty five to sixty percent of
the time. It doesn't matter the down and distance, it
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doesn't matter where they're at on the field.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
You know.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Wake Forest kind of, I don't want to say, invented it,
but really put it on the on the landscape of
college football probably eight nine, ten years ago, and then
a bunch of teams kind of copy didn't liked it,
and now it's kind of, you know, went the other
way a little bit as far as teams aren't doing it,
but they're bought into it. They've been super explosive. They're
averaging forty five points a game, so they do a
good job offensively. They've been able to outscore teams the
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games that they've lost. Their defenses, you know, they've been outscored.
You know, they've Their last game they played Austin p
was forty five forty four. They won in overtime, and
two weeks before that they lost to Avelene Christian. I
think it was thirty one to twenty eight. So they're
scoring points every single week. And they came back in
that game and scored eighteen late to just about winn
the football game.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
So very explosive on offense. So I think for us
really important.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
For us offensively to establish some things to stay on
the field and to score points, you know, to be
able to match the momentum you know that they're doing
with their offense, I think will be really really important
for us.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
You guys have always been even keeled throughout the year,
up down, updown. They just seemed to just stay consistent.
But could you feel a little that sweger come back
the way last Saturday's game ended and as it felt
like if that's the case that it's carried into this week.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Yeah, I don't know if our guys are ever you know,
not confident and that they could go out there and have,
you know, win a football game. I mean we've never
been you know, up to this point right now, just
you know, left the football field going, hey, we weren't
even close today, you know, being able to compete with
that team, and these guys will be one of the
best teams that we've played all year. So we'll have
to continue to uh, you know, play at a high
level in order to uh to be able to be
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competitive and win. But I think there's always been a
you know, a confidence, a belief that that that's something
that I'm really big in. I mean, we're gonna do
everything we can to teach scheme to uh, to teach fundamentals,
you know, all those details that go into you know,
being a good football player and understanding how to strike
blocks and beat blocks and block people and tackle. But
the biggest thing that we can teach guys, I think
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the number one fundamentals belief and confidence. And I think
that's our guys leaning on the work that they've put
in all year. And I think that's what makes you
confident when comes to this point, is that you know
you've done everything that you need to do in order
to you know, go out there and be successful and
and uh, every single Sunday, I think our guys have
done a great job, like you said, as far as
being consistent of going back to neutral, you know, starting
back over that week and then putting in the work
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that winning requires. And that's the stuff that that's been
pretty pretty unique and pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Let's be one of your fans. She had a Darren
sign on it, so I sure I might have been
spelled wrong. Is there is there a benefit? Now you're
gonna have some familiarity this week, right, You're gonna get
on a plane Friday, So got a noon kicks Saturday.
So guys can just get right back into that rhythm.
Can you draw some benefit from them?
Speaker 3 (17:19):
Yeah? I think so.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I mean it's the exact same schedule. It's uh, it's
almost the same bus ride in the morning. You know,
we stayed in Nashville last Saturday or last Friday Saturday morning,
woke up, drove about an hour to get to Cooksville.
This week, we'll stay in Fort Worth. We'll drive about
an hour to get to Stevensville.
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Start at noon.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
You know, it's kind of like, hey, just you know,
Groundhog's Day for our guys, Like, hey, I know what
to expect. It's wake up and you know Fort Worth
looks like Dashville, get to a hotel and you know
that type of deal, and get ready to go to
work the next day. I think, you know, the cool
thing and the neat thing about being on the on
the road is you know, it's just you and and
the guys and you get to spend some time, you
get to eat with them, you get to hang out
with them in the training room, in the recovery room,
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you get to you know, I really believe that, like
Friday night needs to be a you know, a relaxed focus.
I'm not a big like, hey, you can't talk at
a meal. I want everything quiet. I want I want
guys to you know, to be able to interact and
to be able to talk, and just to be able
to be themselves.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I still think that you can, you know, you can.
You can be loose and still be buttoned up, you know,
and be disciplined and all those things. So that that's
the part I like right now. Just you know, I
think everybody knows what to expect. Travis Kalabau does everything
for us in a in a first class manner. Jan Hougen,
you know, just all those helpers and supporters that you know,
our guys have have really grown and to appreciate, like
(18:32):
it's an attitude of gratitude for everything that goes on
for them to be able to to be successful, and
they understand it takes all those people, you know, in
order for them to go out there and uh and
and to be able to have an opportunity to be
able to go win a football game.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
So before we let you go, obviously you mentioned a
lot of the keys coming into Saturday. But for us
watching listening at home, what are we going to see?
What are we going to hear to know that north
to Goot is in a good spot off the Hopper leans.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Well, I think offensively, it's important that we get off
to a good start and really I think establish the
line of scrimmage and then be able to throw the
catch and catch the ball and do some things on
the perimeter that I think, you know, can open up
some other things with our offense. If we can prove
that we can go win some one on ones on
the edges that you know, they can't just go play
man coverage all day long and and feel comfortable being
able to do that, that they're going to win those
(19:14):
you know, fifty to fifty battles, so to speak. I
think that's something that's important that, you know, if we
can open some things up there, get explosive and do
some things in the air that open up what we
want to do on the ground, because I think that'll
be a huge deal is you know, can we continue
to generate first down, stay on the field and methodically
move the ball down the field. And then defensively, I think,
you know, it's going to be explosive plays. They're gonna throw,
(19:35):
they're gonna take shots, probably more than anybody else that
we played all year. We're gonna see the ball, you know,
in the air forty fifty yards you know, routinely on
pretty much every drive, just based off of you know,
how long the quarterback holds on the ball and how
far the receivers get down the field. So we got
to be really good in the deep part of the
field as far as being able to defend receivers. And
then you know, like I said before, their running backs
(19:55):
are really good players. So we're going to try to,
you know, do some things to to make sure that
we give them different reads and things like that, you know,
when he's when he's in that long mesh. But we
got we got to be able to tackle in space
too as well. Like those would be the two things
we can limit explosives. And then offensively we could get
off to a good start and prove that we can
you know, we can make some plays on the perimeter
I think we'll be in a decent spot all right
the rest.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
Of the day.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
December Football, keep it going. I appreciate you stopping in tonight.
Best of luck on Saturday, and look forward to talking
again soon.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Sounds good, thanks Darren.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
All right, that is Eric Schmidt, head football coach at
Undig on Funny Hawkes are preparing for the second round
of the FCS playoffs with Tarlton Staint. They'll get going
just after high noon deep in the heart of Texas
and you can catch many of you will join in
on the Funny Hawks radio network. Jack Michaels, it'll be him,
Mike Berg, Joill hight Camp, the on Light tailgate showing
eleven on Saturday as in Orticot looks to keep their
(20:45):
FCS playoff run going. And then of course coming up
later Saturday and it'll be game too North to go
to Saint Cloud State. We'll get to that and more
in a moment, as we'll take a brief pause, come
back and catch up with our head hockey coach, Dan
Jackson said to join us.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
We're still live inside the five oh six Pub inside
Hugos Peer Market downtown Grand Forks, and you've got Hawk
Talk right here and all along the Finding Hawks Radio network.
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