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April 25, 2025 • 14 mins
Jack Michaels, Mike Berg and Paul Ralston talk about UND's football spring showcase and what to expect in the fall.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:21):
Is a presentation of Dakota Fighting Hawks for Sparti Ships.

Speaker 5 (00:32):
On the Fighting Hawks Radio Network.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
This is North Dakota Fighting Hawks Football's spring showcase.

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Speaker 5 (01:53):
From the Fritz Pollard Athletics Center. Here's Jack Michaels.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Thank you much in a pleasure good evening, Fighting Hawks
football is on the air today if I'm indeed the
Fritz Pauller at the Athletic Center. And then I'll tell
you on behalf of Paul Rolston, Mike Berg, my co host.
It's good to put the headsets on watching football happen tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
It is a showcase.

Speaker 4 (02:14):
Currently a team is running twenty five offensive plays the fans.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Here is what I'm excited about. I got here.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
I parked in Adam, Minnesota, and walked over to the Prince.
It was a packed house. But good to have you
on board today, Tracy Value of producing our broadcast tonight
and Mike and Paul.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
I wish I could hit on the old cassette deck.
Remember you had the fast forward button.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
I wish I could hit fast forward, Coach Berg and
move us right to the fall and play. But I
know there are things to be accomplished before we get
to the fall.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, lots of new things happening with you indie football
this season, Jack, and so this has been an interesting
spring and I think they made a lot of progress
and a new coaching staff, a lot of new faces
on the roster. So it's a fun way to wrap
up this spring. And I think they have a good
idea where they want to go in the fall.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
We'll get into and Paul Ralston, great to see if
obviously throughout the until a thirty tonight, we'll get into
a position group, perhaps a position group battles who's the
quarterback going to be? We'll hear from Eric Schmid, We'll
hear from Isaac Victy, We'll hear from Sean Costage. We'll
hear from the honorary coaches today too, and a man
named Digger who is well beloved at University of North

(03:25):
Dakota and the Manitoba Moose, Brady Elavera is here today.
But Paul, you know, we look at here and as
Mike said, you know, sometimes the more things change, the
more they stay the same. And yes, movement in essence
in collegiate athletics is at times inevitable and a move
has been made. First guy, by the way I saw
it today when I got into Fritz Pollard Bubba Schweiger,

(03:46):
and he was a front and center, excited about the crowd,
excited about that. Paul, it's great to see you. As
Mike said, this is a fun time here in spring,
no doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
I mean, I know that with a change in leadership,
there's a change of ideas, maybe a little bit of refresh,
and I think that's good for everyone. What I've been
really interested in is to see as many guys offensively
that are returning. Certainly there's key pieces like how do
you replace or move on from bou Belquist certainly is
one of them that maybe we'll talk about tonight. I'm
not necessarily certain that you ever do come from a

(04:16):
beau Belquist, but those are some of the things that
we're looking at. Certainly, the defensive side, that's the one
I get questions on the most when I'm wandering around
picking up groceries at different times a day, like Hey,
what do you think of that defense? It's gonna change?
And I'm like, yeah, it's a great question. I don't
know exactly how it will all work. And I think
there's a genuine interest if you look in this building
on all those questions. Do they get answered today? No,

(04:40):
But we're gonna get little glimpses along the way.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
That certainly will provide maybe even more talking points as
we move into the summer months.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Without question, the.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
Coaching change system, we'll get into that too. But and
Paul said it, you know, with the new voice in
the room, so to speak, Eric Schmidt, and it didn't
take schmidy long to establish his philosophies. It hasn't taken
here Schmidt long to establisher trying to build that culture
and this unifying this team and getting into all that.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
And Mike, you talk.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
About that, and to Paul's point, you know, they're numbers
in football, numbers in football. I mean this coach, you know,
they we talk about the defense. Oh yeah, they ran
a three to four, and everybody can do numbers, and
they go, okay, I got three linemen there, and then
you got four linebackers and.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
Wait a minute, one now, well a Simny running runs
a four to two. What's the four?

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Well, sometimes, Mike, those are just numbers. We're still talking
about personnel position assignments, run gap assignments and all that. Yeah,
numbers might change a little bit, coach philosophies might tweak
a little bit, but it still comes down to tackling
and making play well of.

Speaker 3 (05:43):
Course, Jack, And of course it always comes down to
what's happening on the line of scrimmage. But you're right,
there's eleven guys on the offensive side, So it doesn't
matter whether you line up with three guys on the
line of scrimmage or four on the defensive side. You
have gaps that you have to cover, you have players
you have to cover. You've got eleven guys, and we're

(06:03):
going to see something different. I think in this current
age of a football wide open, empty set, spread field,
you need five guys that can play in the secondary now.
And so they've essentially removed a linebacker, made him a nickel,
which is kind of a hybrid linebacker safety position. But

(06:24):
we've seen him play nickel before too. They've had that
five defensive back look for years.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
But it is different.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
And the big thing is tonight they're playing actual football.
They're hitting, they're tackling, they're blocking.

Speaker 4 (06:36):
It's live, yeah, live, indeed, in front of a really
good house.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
I mean, this is this is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Tonight's broadcast is being presented by butt Light butt Light
easy to game Day. Now the course of what the
showcase is all about, and Mike, you have been coaching
a long time and and and you're at every practice
on these showcases, it's it's yes, you've got offense versus defense,
but you can overview, Mike, what's happening tonight for the
fans that are either here listening to us or listening

(07:05):
on the network tonight. And we're talking about starting out
with a with X number of drives correct, and then
you're implementing some of your personnel like Garry Kaminski led
that first group. As there's a quarterback. You know, we
saw Brunell, we saw z Bar take us through. That
might kind of an overview of what the showcases all about.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Well, they're playing four quarters of football, but each quarter
is controlled. This first quarter is twenty five offensive plays.
You're using the whole field. They started on the twenty
five and actually this is the second possession for the offense.
Defense is ahead forward to nothing because they offense missed
a field goal in that first possession. So and this

(07:45):
is important to these guys. You know that we talk
about new defenses, new players on the roster, new coaches.
You've got players out here trying to get on film.
They need to get something on film because they come
out of spring practice. They'll have a chart and there
be there's some guys out here dressed playing football that
won't be here in the fall. And now with new

(08:05):
roster limits and NCAA rules, this is the last chance
for some of these guys to actually earn a spot
in the program, much less get on the field.

Speaker 4 (08:14):
Paul will go down to Paul again and Paul, I
know that that Javans is in their quarterbacking.

Speaker 6 (08:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (08:19):
I got a quick story in high school my junior year,
and we'll go deep into this, but we found out
we were getting a kid that was six feet five,
but he was from North Carolina. And here we are
to Wilson thinking, oh, he's from North Carolina, he's six
feet five, we're.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Gonna win the state.

Speaker 4 (08:35):
Might we might not lose a game, having not known
anything about the young and he was okay, he got
maybe the ninth man and fourth off the bench.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
But but it was that initial and.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
My point on this, Paul in coach, is that now
we're seeing Javans here and Javan's two Poata Johnson who's
quarterbacking here, Paul, And he's not the only one.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
You know.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Bj Fleming is a transfer from Northern Arizona. Zach lewis
transfer for Northern Arizona, Jamal Young from Arizona State, Kristin
Hawkins from Minnesota, Hoskins Javans who we're singing here, bet
at Walker.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
But my point, Paul, is.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
That my guess is in this packed pollard, people are going, hey, hey,
there's that kid from San Diego.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
But it's always the shiny new toys, right, And I
think there's something encouraging. Obviously, he was highly heralded and
recruited coming out of high school, and so far, what
I've seen from the practices that I've been to what
he just did is probably where he's further along is
maybe when plays break down a little bit, it's the
ad lib that last play where he was able to

(09:36):
turn the corner, extend the play, then eject and get
up the field. I think the throwing game, like I said,
you know, from my standpoint, he throws a decent ball.
I think Jerry's thrown probably maybe a better ball, but
maybe that's because he's more comfortable and things so far
in the spring campaign. But yeah, it's the new shiny toys.
But the biggest thing is is about and I think
coach Berg will probably also add to it here. The

(09:59):
one thing that I noticed and practice is about behavior
and culture. And there was an incident where I'm not
going to name a player or anything, but you know,
there was a frustration about not making a play, not
necessarily about any other player, but he threw a helmet
in a practice right and the first person over wasn't
an assistant, it wasn't a student assistant. It was the
head coach basically, and and they nipped it right then

(10:20):
and there, basically. And it was an educational piece, which
I felt like that those are the moments when you
come in that may have been okay wherever you're coming from,
so to speak, and basically right away it came from
the top down that that's not how we do things
at the University of North Dakota.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
I thought it was great. Love that. Yeah, and before
we break to that.

Speaker 4 (10:40):
To close out this too, is Javan's trying to lead
this offensive unit into the end zone. One name you
won't hear tonight is is Simon Rounfelt. There are some
guys that are dinged up a little bit, so you're
signled another one he had that ac so he'll be
out And obviously you're not going to play guys. And
we even remotely dinged or question whatever be soft tissue
or what have you. So there are some guys that

(11:01):
aren't going to be featured. Javanced back to past goes
over the middle and bringing it in at a catch
in Bheimer the tight end boy, there's an Overton Park,
Kansas kid. They utilized him well.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
He transferred in from Air Force last year and made
some critical plays. Got on the field and I was
watching in practice. He's getting number one reps, sharing number
one reps with a couple other guys.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Six six, two thirty five.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
And I bumped into actually some friends of the Beeheimer's
while I was in Kansas City last.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Summer, by the way, like do you know the Bheimer ken?

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I said, well, he hasn't made much and then he
started getting a little trickle of time and Eric Schmidt
and we'll talk with me hopefully a little bit later on.
Obviously in this but I specifically asked him his philosophy
on tight ends, you know, and Mike he went, yes,
they've got a you know, seagap responsibilities obviously, but he goes.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
We utilized tight ends.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
We utilized them in San Diego State, certainly utilized them
in Washington and among everything else that Eric has brought
back to the University of North Dakota is the utilization
of tight end well.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
And we talked about the nickel position being kind of
a hybrid safety linebacker spot. Really tight ends nowadays it's
a hybrid full back tight end on the end of
the line of scrimmage position. Half the time they're in
the backfield and a wing or a slot or they're wide.
So yeah, and that's a position where you need to

(12:25):
be very flexible and be able to do a lot
of different things.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
So we got to procedure penalty against the offense here
as they are driving in before we brank, that's going
to move them back five yards. It is second town
and ten. As the offense hands it inside the fifteen,
call it the fourteen yard life.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
I feel like we're.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
Playing in Game one against Kansas State tonight here at
the Pollard wall.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Let's see what say like that, you know, can we
get to August already? This is you know, I need
a golf season. I'm not gonna let know that.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, we're not going to deny you that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
But the thing about it is nights like tonight and
this happening. You know, for those that have football in
your blood, you just want it to come a little
sooner with a nightlight tonight.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
The offense in an empty backfield, now to Pawata. Johnson's
advanced to Pawata, Johnson puts his back in motion, brings
him back with him in protection. That's Colton Prunell. Let's
see if that offense can score before we go to
break to Pawata Johnson going for sake and it didn't complete.
And again nice route running there, passed intended for Trade Coots.
Another tight end by the way, see.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Another and another local kid, a Grand Fork Central kid.
And we're seeing more of that on this in this
football program too. Started a lot of that with Bubba
trying to bring the local talent in and I think
is as the FCS level football has improved, the quality
of high school football has has improved in the high

(13:45):
schools across the state.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
In the region.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Third down and ten as the offense again, We're in
a series of twenty five plays offense obviously against the defense.
Defense right now is showing some internal pleasure. Let's see
if that defense brings it. Let's see if Schmiddy calls
anything up. Play action pass to polatadd Johnson rolling out
to his right, slings a low incomplete.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
We're just getting going tonight from the Pollard.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Good to have you on board tonight, Jack Michaels, Mike Berg,
Paul Rolston, Tracy Palure producing our game.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
We're back with Bore.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
It's the un D Showcase tonight of the und Fighting
Hawks Radio Network
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