Hell Frozen Over 9.30.25

Hear from Head Coach Greag Powers prior to the puck drop on the 2025-26 season

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
That'sy is pizza presto, new location, new season, first thing's
first coach. How was your summer?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Summer? What's summer? Yeah right, still summer essentially, Yeah right, No,
it's it was good.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
It was great to get away a little bit, spend
some time with family and recharge and then.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
I'm ready to go.

Speaker 4 (00:17):
Daughter went to college.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
How college, went to.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Her first games at Union last weekend and they went
to and Oho, So that was exciting. But it was
good to see her player in her first college games.
And the rest I'll be able to see online.

Speaker 4 (00:29):
That's the nice assist she did.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
She had a nice assist, really like that.

Speaker 5 (00:35):
Yeah, you just got back from Memphis. How was your summer?
It was good. Baseball is always fun. But excited to
talk some punk now.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Yeah, transition from the grass to the ice, all right,
before we start talking about the present, A very quick
word on the end of last season, because we haven't
had a show since then. You guys were the two
seed in the NHC Tournament. Make it all the way
to Saint Paul in really thrilling fashion. I mean that
that weekend against a here was unbelievable, and then you

(01:02):
couldn't get past Denver just once more. That's where the
road ended in a bit of you know, heartbreak. How
bittersweet was that when you combine the resiliency all season,
but then obviously the disappointing end.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
It was disappointing because we knew we had to go
up there and get to to to get to where
we wanted to go. But you know, reflecting very quickly
on our first season in the league, it was it
was a hell year, you know, and and you know,
in no other year, and I'm very comfortable saying this, Well,
I think you ever see the second place team in
the NCCHC, the conference it's won seven to the last

(01:35):
nine national championships, only not getting in a tournament, right,
and and and and then have only two teams get in.
So look, Denver, Denver got us up there. It was
a really good game. It was it was toe to
toe the whole way. We thought we had him there
in the third, and we tied it up there late
in the second and it just didn't go ourway. So
but so many great things to look back on. The

(01:56):
playoff series against the luth was incredible. I think that
that just was like a kind of a you know,
like whoa moment like yeah, this program's built right, and
you know, unbelievable fan base going crazy. It was incredible,
Just a great experience. The sweep at Denver when there
were ranked number one, twelve and zero and then then

(02:16):
appeared to be unbeatable. That really got our season turned around.
So it was a great year, full of great kids,
and it was a fun team to be around every day.
And uh one will always remember.

Speaker 5 (02:29):
How quickly after you know the end of his season
do you guys go through and and look toward next
year and rebuilding that roster. Of course, recruiting is always
happening for you guys, But to take the high of
last year and everything all the good parts into an
off season that was pretty fruitful for you.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I mean I think I think you pretty much know
what next year's roster for the most part, is going
to look like by the time the season ends, right,
you know what your needs are. You know, maybe where
you're you're a little bit short in some areas or
where you need to improve, you know, and you have
to manage your commit list. Some kids you want to
play a little bit longer in junior hockey. Some kids
might appear to be ready. So there's a there's a

(03:07):
there's a lot of pieces of the puzzle that go
into play as a as a whole staff throughout our
entire season to build what next year's roster is going
to look like. So this year, you know, we don't
have a lot of seniors. You know, we have no
seniors in the back end and our decor and and
I think only four up front. So uh, it's exciting
that we have a youthful team full of a lot

(03:30):
of talent and a lot of depth that we can
really launch into the future with.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Obviously, you guys, excuse me, lost your top three point
scorers and our Tim Schlane, Ryan Kerwin, Lucas Sillinger among
others who departed for one reason or another. Lots of
gaps to fill. How did you guys look at the
roster and say, these are gaps we still need to
feel fill. Aside from the freshman and the commits, you

(03:54):
already knew we're gonna comit.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yeah, I think I think the biggest thing we we
we felt incredibly comfortable with and I'm still overly confident
about was you you know, you lose an already, you
lose a Curwin a silly you know, and you lose.
And Noah Beck and a Ti Murchison and they're great
players and they did so many great things for us
and had a great year. But when you know you
have a Kyle Smollen and a Bennett Shimick and a

(04:16):
Cruz Lucius and a Colin Potter to you know, now
with a season more experience under their belt and with
with you know, the opportunity to get the opportunity that
those guys got, we have every bit of confidence that
they're gonna just step right in and do everything.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
For us that we need them to do.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
And and obviously our goal as a staff is to
get better every year and to build a better roster
every year, and we think we've done that. It is
by far the deepest roster we've ever had. That's going
to happen naturally when you go from eighteen to.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Twenty six scholarships.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
So in the past you have eighteen scholarships and equivalentcy sport,
you may have six kids on full rides, right, and
then then the twelve you're dividing up and you're trying
to make it work like a salary cap. And you know,
somekids are on a fifty somes around a sixty five,
some around a seventy. Well, now we have twenty six
kids on full rides, right, so we're deep. We have

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a lot of really good players, and I have some
sleepless nights ahead of me figuring out what the lineup is.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
Gonna look like.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
A lot of depth as well, though on the freshman
side of things, like in years past and off seasons
to you know, as the program has continued to rise,
it's been added transfers in the transfer portal where you've
gotten the bulk of your talent. Now it seems to
you have replenished through the natural recruiting process with freshmen.
What's the difference there and why do we see that this.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Year program growth? You know, we our program is built.

Speaker 3 (05:38):
We've checked all the boxes where elite kids want to
come here right now, and so it takes time for
the young recruiting to catch up. You commit kids a
ways out or maybe they did commit from somewhere and
want to come in. But in the we didn't have
an arena, we didn't have a conference, and obviously to
compete in the NCCHC in the first year, we knew
we had to plug some holes through the portal. We

(06:00):
plugged some great holes with the portal this year with
Johnny Waldron and obviously Connor Hasley, and I'm forgetting Sean
mcgern i technically is a portal guy, not really because
he's a U sports guy, but so it was less
right because our young recruiting has caught up and I
think you're gonna see, we really do want to be
a program that goes to the portal less than we

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have in the past and builds kind of through the
draft and developing, and most importantly allows our fan base,
which is incredible, to become attached to kids for four years. Right,
there's not this crazy turnover every year. So we want
to be that and and and that's our That's our
goal and our intent to build through the draft long term.

(06:42):
It always has been, and the portals has been great
to us. We will always go to the portal, will
always use it to supplement our needs where we need,
you know, to fill some holes here and there, but
it'll be a lot less than the past.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Last year, you talked a lot about how your team
played fast and hard. What can fans expect in terms
of like a team identity? This year, and frankly, how
improved will the team overall be?

Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think I think the team, the team is definitely
going to be a team that's going to be harder
to play against.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
We're much bigger, we're much.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
More straight line, we're more balanced, you know, one through
four as far as our lineup goes upfront, and and
I've said this a few times, I think this year,
you know what, what you'll see as our fourth line
Friday night on any other team at a s U
would generally be our third. Our third would generally be
our second, Our second would be our first. So that's

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the difference in depth. We are going to have kids
in the stands on Friday that and no other year
would they ever have been close.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
To being a healthy scratch, you know. So that's how
deep we are.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
And you could argue, I mean, one of our best
players this year is absolutely going to be Jack Beck,
and he's out for the first six games, so you know,
and certainly that that stinks because we see how good
he is in practice every day. But we're still very
confident in what we have, you know, and it's it's
nice to have that depth because you have a true
next man up metality. It also has made practices incredibly competitive,

(08:07):
and guys know they can't take days off because there's
backside pressure everywhere all over our lineup.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
You mentioned the idea of being hard to play against.
We've heard that be a theme of teams in past,
but we's also seen teams like last year was more
skill based, speed based. Can this team be one that
plays not only hard to play against, bigger, stronger like
we can see with the numbers, but also the speed
that they might bring with their skill.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yeah, we haven't lost any speed.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
We're big and we're fast, right, and we have some
we have some mean dudes, some dudes that can dick
and good that can get visited the bulls and and
Logan Morelele sama Fino, Kyle Smollen. You know, he's put
on he's putting on about twenty pounds of muscle. He
was he was always mean, but he was a little twig, right,
So now he's not that anymore, and he's got his

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man strength and he's gonna have a great year for us.
And you know, we have a balanced, very balanced team,
you know. And that's what we've built. A really good team,
a really good roster that we think is sustainable to
win with. We have a ton of skill, you know,
and and the the message is going to be, you know,
we got it. We have to we have to implement

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will before we do skill right, and then our skill
will take over. So straight lines, playing hard, getting on
top of pucks, you know, making sure we're keeping the
puck out of our net, and then our skill will
take over.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
You know, it really will. So we we have everything
we need to be successful.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
How will a.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
Fan watching it, mullet notice the balance immediately?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like, like what can they see?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
I think, like, okay, we'll see our line shart and
you'll see you'll see, you know, a lot of the
high end skill and speed at the top of the lineup,
and you'll see a lot of size and grit and
speed at the at the you know, in the bottom six.
So you know, it's just a really well balanced lineup
and we're still figuring things out.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
We don't have we don't have set lines.

Speaker 3 (09:56):
I mean, we have you know, a group of freshmen,
especially upfront that that again we feel comfortable with because
it could help us win on any given night. And
we're gonna have some really good players in the stands
Friday that we'll probably put in Saturday. Sure, So you know,
we have a lot to figure out as we go,
and we will.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
You mentioned the name Jack Beck earlier. You just added
him a few weeks ago, really talented forward. For those
watching and listening right now, the name sounds familiar because
he's the younger brother of Noah Beck. Of course, the
standout ASU defenseman last year. Not only that, he played
in the EHL and AHL professional leagues last year. So
I know you've already had to do this a couple

(10:34):
of times, but if you could walk us through how
this happened and the eligibility rules surrounding.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, you know, I mean it, the amateurism and pre
enrollment professionalism, pre enrollment has changed, it's it's it's changed
within the NC double A. I don't write the rule book, yep,
you know. And the midgie got a few players through,
and I think it caught a lot of people off guard.
Noah was still training with us, Jack's older brother who
played for US last year when it happened, and we

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kind of joked about it with Jack and then it
just materialized into what it became.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
And he's here, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
He he he wants to play college hockey. He's a
he's a young man who played a year pro. He
missed the CHL rule.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Change by a year.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
And and is this, like I've said a million times,
is it a well we're gonna go to consistently.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
No, it is not, you know, but this was a
one off circumstance.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
The person is who we really like, and the person
Jack Beck is and the character that he has, and
the family and everything that we experience with Noah. We
get another three years with that family, and we'd be
we'd be crazy to turn that down and turn it away.
Then the cherry on top is how good of a
player is. He is a hell of a player. He's
a twenty one year old playing in pro hockey over
a point per game. People are gonna see how special

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he is and how much he's gonna help us, you know.
And and I know there's people out there that that
disagree with with the theory or whatever. I don't really care,
and I don't really care are not running our program,
so you know, and at the end of the day, again,
it's not gonna be a well we go to you know,

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every year, but we're we're thrilled he's here and and
couldn't be happier.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
The addition of him is it's pretty obvious what it's
going to do in terms of skill and hockey play,
but the intangibles of adding a forty game professional to
the group. What does that bring? What are the things
that Yeah, he.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Is a level of expert, like just just his skill
set and his polish and his poise and his his
professionalism so to speak.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You can feel it every day in practice.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
And you know, I mean he made he made thirty
five thousand dollars last year and it's not like he
got rich. You have you have football players making three million,
So I mean, like, what's wrong with this? You know,
he's he's paying his time. He got six games and
he lost the year of eligibility and he still wants
to be here. So you know, hey, he took his

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penalty and and that's what they gave him. And you know,
we don't make the world. We're not breaking the rules.
We're not even looking to circumvent the rules. We we
have used the rules to our advantage and at the
end of the day, that's that's that's called being smart.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Well, you better believe other teams are doing may as well.
We only have a minute or two before we got
to go to break. But I do want to ask
before we do that about your goaltenders. All new faces
with epher Chase Ham of course, with PAVs graduating, Gibbie
transferring to North Dakota, who is the starting goaltender? And
do you envision splitting time between Hasley and Urban.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, I mean they're both, They're both ones. They're both
You come to a practice and you watch them both play,
and they're clearly number ones at this level. They're both
so talented, they're different. Has is a lefty, Herbs a variety.
Herbs plays the puck world class as well as any
any goalieve I've seen at this level since Joey de
cour So. His ability to play the puck is is unbelievable.

(13:53):
Has is really good at it. Two, has is the
experienced guy, you know, he came here to help us,
you know, get to a frozen four and trying to
win a comp his championship. With his experience, it's a
perfect setup. Because Herbs is a freshman, has as a senior.
They get along great, They push each other in practice.
Herbs is gonna get his games because we got to
make sure that next year he's completely ready to go.

(14:13):
When Has is gone, that Has will be in net
Friday and we'll go from there.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
All Right, a clean state for Arizona State, and based
on what we're hearing tonight, I think we are in
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talk some college hockey with us as well. Kyle Smollin's
journey to Arizona State is well documented. He wanted to
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Maroon and Gold, and Kyle joins us now on Hell
Frozen Over. It's great to see you, sir, Thanks so
much for being here tonight as our first guest of
the season.

Speaker 12 (18:44):
Hey, thanks for having me. What an atmosphere we got
going on here.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
It's great, right, I mean, this is beautiful. The sun
has gone down. It's temperature, yeah, temperatures cooling down. Alex
and I are watching the planes go by.

Speaker 4 (18:54):
It's great. All right.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
First things first, how is your off season? Did you
do any travel, any fun? Do you have any fun,
any crazy stories? How much of you did you spend training?
Give us a glimpse into your summer.

Speaker 12 (19:05):
Yeah, this was my first summer that I actually stayed
down here full time, and I got to put in
some serious work. Like like coach said, thanks for the
tribute to my twig figure. But I was able to
put on some mass this summer. I did take a
nice vacation up to Big Bear Lake, California with my girlfriend.
It was a good little retreat to kind of escape
and kind of just take a decompression break and just

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kind of take a breath. But other than that, I
kind of spent my time here. I got to meet
some of the guys over the summer and truly help
them kind of feel what it's like to be a
SUN level and be a part of this and experience
the level of training that we have here.

Speaker 5 (19:38):
So yeah, we're excited to get to know everybody because
from what we've heard from you and Coach and everybody,
it just seems like this is, you know, another fantastic group.
I don't want to bury the lead and get too
far into the segment without talking about the obvious, but
you were named a team captain. Congratulations. First of all,
how did you find out? And how special was that moment?

Speaker 12 (19:57):
Thank you? First? And I found the first time I
found out, Coach pulled me into the room and he
had an honest conversation with us and said, you know,
me and Jim, he thought we were going to be
the best options, and I was kind of taken back.
I was like, I was shocked a little bit because
I felt as a junior, I don't know, I didn't
have that experience yet. But he has the utmost respect
for me and confidence in me. And I took it,

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and I kind of took a minute to think about it,
and I moved forward. I have had experience being a
captain of a team. I was captain of the Force
of my last year in junior, So I have some
experience there. And I'll forever be grateful to wear a
letter always anywhere I go so to hear the news,
I was super grateful. But I do believe I can
provide a good level of leadership for this team.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
When you think about your journey, Tyler just touched on
it briefly in the open to the segment you going
even further back. You grew up in the Chicago suburbs.
You come out here for what was a family vacation.

Speaker 12 (20:51):
Right, Yeah, I used to vacation down here when I
was like seven years old.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
And you're like, I love this place. I want to
play hockey here. If only they had had Division one
college hockeysion. When college hockey comes, uh, you get to
the opportunity to get recruited here, get to wait another year,
you put that on pause. You show the selfless nature
of that. You come here, make a big impact immediately
as a freshman, and now you're rewarded by being one

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of the team captains. How special is that and what
is that journey meant to you?

Speaker 12 (21:19):
Like I said this, this privilege has dated back a
long time. I don't know if I don't. I don't
think I've told this story before. But one year when
I was down here, I was like ten or eleven.
I was actually had a cub spring training game, and uh,
I was just loving it. I was having a great
time as a kid. And I looked over to my
dad and I was like, dude, like, if there ever
is a Division one program down here, like I'm here,

(21:39):
like yeah, no, no, like no questions like and as
soon as coach reached out after national camp, like it
didn't matter who talked to me, I don't I don't
think there was anyone that could even compete with what
I knew at this place was about individuals and and
everything that he told he showed me to the program
in the in the vision he had like I couldn't
turn down. There's no there's no way, but it's years coming,

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and I am just so grateful just to be here
first and foremost, and then like to have the privilege
to wear a letter for this program. There's been so
many great players that have Warren letters, especially the Captain's
patch in this program, and to be thought of in
that regard is the highest level of an honor.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
So you know, it's been a privilege for myself and
I think I speak on behalf of Alex too, to
watch over the last two years, how you have become
this team's Swiss Army Knife, mister clutch, whatever you want
to call it. There's a good chance that looking at
this roster construction, you'll have at least one, if not
two freshman linemates on any given night, based on the

(22:39):
roster construction. As someone who was once in that position
and it wasn't long ago as a freshman trying to
get in there, make whatever impact you can, how are
you helping to guide some of these new guys into
this team style of play?

Speaker 12 (22:53):
Just kind of like the with me, like I had
great teammates and just great leaders that like just showed
me the way. Like it doesn't take much, It just
takes little pieces of advice. It takes sometimes it takes
a little bit of handholding, but sometimes you just they
need to push and you know they need to understand,
like what needs to be done? What what do you
do in this situation? How are you gonna be successful?

(23:14):
And honestly, like just just telling them to listen. Really
like I've listened my whole life to this coaching staff
and it's worked out for me. So just a matter
of putting your trust in the people that are around you,
and you're gonna get You're gonna get benefits from it,
and you're gonna be successful and you know, we're gonna
win hockey games if you just trust everyone that's in
this uh, in this organization.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
As great as as last year was with so many
fantastic moments, how did how it ended fuel you specifically
but also the team?

Speaker 12 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely like I don't forget it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
I won't.

Speaker 12 (23:46):
It's definitely sore topic for me. I didn't get to
play in that last game, and I had to watch
every single one of my teammates come off that ice
just completely hearts ripped out of their chest, and I
think about it every night before I go to bed.
It is was gut wrenching to see just kind of
like the group of guys that you built such a
great team with and just went on such a great run,

(24:08):
to just see that that emotion pour out of them.
It doesn't get forgotten for me and I, you know,
going into the season, I won't forget it. I don't
try to bore my teammates with it, but I won't
let them forget it, that's for sure. And it's something
I think about often and it kind of feels me
to want to have an even better season this year.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
How do you how do you strike that balance with
like that that anger and that frustration you're talking about,
especially not being able to be out there with those
guys and kind of channel it into something positive for
this year.

Speaker 12 (24:39):
You can either let it. You can either let it
eat at you and let it absorb you and like
you know, take away from you. Or you can use
it in a positive way and to use it as
motivation and to use it as a as kind of
a flame. You know, It's just kind of like you
can either let it get really hot or you can
let it similar a bit and just let it be
there so it's not forgotten, but it doesn't overtake you.

(25:01):
At the same time, it.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Feels like practices have that intense fire just because there's
so much talent, skill size, everything that you want in
a hockey team combating itself in practice. What have those
been like leading up to the first game?

Speaker 12 (25:16):
Everything you want in the and just seeing the team
for the first time, you know, competing. You know, it's
different from when you're competing against your teamates to someone
you don't know and it's it's an enemy, you know,
to see the level of competition from your teammates, going
up against your your own friends, I'm excited to see
when you know someone else is on the other side,
you know, because it is such a high level, the intensity,

(25:37):
the passion, everything that they put on the ice during practice,
It's it's very exciting. Like I said, the biggest thing
for me is like that energy, Like, how how can
you make the season? It gets you know, sometimes it
gets dull, you do the same practices it over and
over again. How are you gonna make it? So every
day is exciting. Every day you're excited to get better

(25:57):
and to make this team better. So like just seeing
that early on, I'm very excited to see how it
translates into the games, and I'm even more excited to
see on how it how we can build off it
and and make this a consistent thing.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
I know you guys have always been and continue to
be focused on yourselves and how this team can get better.
But I also trust that you and your teammates know
who's coming into town this weekend, and of course Penn State.
The hype around Gavin McKenna Frozen four last year, a
lot of hype just for a variety of reasons. What
do you guys need to do to win a couple

(26:29):
of games.

Speaker 12 (26:30):
We gotta do what we do. I mean, it's always
been about us, Like obviously we're always gonna have respect
for players that come into our building. But at the
same time, you know we're gonna play our brand of hockey,
and you know we're gonna out work you, we're gonna
will you, we're gonaw compete you, and and you know
we're not gonna give you a sniff like That's that's
how we've always played. That's how this program has always succeeded,
is not bound down to an opponent, to an opponent,

(26:50):
but standing up to them and showing them what we're about.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
I can feel the the energy from you. But but
to put it into words, how excited for you are
you to actually on the ice and face somebody else?

Speaker 12 (27:01):
I mean, there's no words I can put to it.
I mean, it is like it's just a feeling that
you have. It builds up every day, every single day
in the summer. You think about it before you go
to bed, you know, you like, you know, coach talks
about visualizing the game, you should have played it one
hundred times before you've played. But in reality, I've been
sitting here all summer. I've been visualing at three hundred
and fifty times, you know, in front of the cellout

(27:22):
crowd and Mullet. So everybody's the same way too. And
this team's competitive and this team wants to win more
than any any group I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
So, speaking of that sellout at Mullet, you guys have
the luxury of competing in your season opener at home
this year, had to go to air Force last year.
How special will that be to open up the season
here in front of the Maroon and Gold faithful.

Speaker 12 (27:42):
I think it's gonna be very helpful to get that
energy from the crowd. And really to feel into it,
like you know, and to get off on the right foot,
you know, getting a win in front of this building,
getting two wins in front of this building, and then
just building off that and continuing on through the season,
no gaps, no lolls, and just continuing on and just
building off it every single day.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
You guys, you have a lot of fans out here
right now with us here at the Vibe Hotel. You
have a lot more listening on the radio, watching later.
What do you want Sun Devil Hockey Nation to know
about this team and what you guys are going to
come in and do every Friday and Saturday until hopefully April.

Speaker 12 (28:17):
This team will bring the passion. The only thing I
can ask from you guys is bring the same passion,
bring the same energy. Knock the top off the place, man,
and we'll do the same for you.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
I'll tell you this guy bleeds maroon and gold. Now
he's leading the Sun Devil since they aim to return
to the NCAA Tournament this season and.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
All of it kicks off this weekend.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Kyle, I appreciate you so much for coming out spending
the evening with us. Good luck this weekend and we
will see you on Friday.

Speaker 12 (28:39):
So thank you so much. Thanks for having me all right.

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(32:32):
get back into kind of the meat of this show
and previewing the series ahead. How excited are you that
like we're done waiting. I mean, it's been six months.
You must be like, you know, sitting on your hands,
just ready to.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
Go, right.

Speaker 3 (32:43):
Yeah, I am excited for our players. You know, it's
a long couple months prepping for the college hockey season.
Once they get to campus and start class and it's
gets tedious. They're tired of hitting each other, they're tired
of competing against each other. They want to compete with
each other against you know, another opponents. So you know,
it's always great to just feel their energy and how

(33:03):
excited they are, and and they're really excited.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I want to ask you about the guy we just
had on, Kyle Smollen and really all of your leadership group. Overall,
you have two co captains and Bennett Shimmick and Kyle Smollen,
three alternates. Tell us how you went about picking the
leadership group.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Yeah, so far, you know, I mean, obviously Smolly and
shim it was it was a no brainer. I wanted
them to, you know, be established over the summer so
they could really establish themselves as our team's leaders because
we had so many new faces coming in and they
did an unbelievable job all summer, you know, And and
I mean, you just obviously heard from Smolly and he's
he's intense, He's he's he does everything the right way

(33:44):
on and off the ice.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
He lives the right way, and it translates to his game.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Shim has a much different personality off the ice. He's
he's a really lighthearted, easy kind of going, soft spoken kid.
And then and then when the puck drops, he legit
has an alter ego, so he turns into a complete animal.
And and last year, you know, he can't get a
word out of him, you know, up until we played
and then we're at Air Force and I was like,

(34:09):
who is this kid? You know, like this is awesome,
but he's awesome. So it's a great balance between the
two of them. They're growth great leaders. They do everything
the right way. And then obviously the assistant group or
the alternate captain group, it was it was, you know,
some tough decisions. We have some really good kids that
that could have could have easily filled those shoes. But

(34:31):
Cruz had an unbelievable offseason. He looks like the crews
that we knew he was going to be. He looks
like the kid that led Wisconsin in points two years
in a row. He had a rough go last year,
tough injury, tough surgery, no offseason, no training camp, no practice.
He was thrown in the fire after three skates and
did the best he could. But I'm excited for him

(34:52):
to show everybody how good he is, and he's excited
to so show the same.

Speaker 2 (34:55):
And he's just a great teammate that.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
The guys really respect. Obviously, Outer is our oldest decoor decoy.
He's a junior, and he's just a great personality that
fires the guys up. And he's a he's kind of
an easy going kid, a really good support leader for
for Smoley and Shim and then Seanmager And nobody knows
you know, you know Goo yet, but they're gonna find
out quick how good this kid is, how great of

(35:19):
a leader he is. He came here, he was the
first new guy to show up at the start of
the summer, and he was intent on being here all summer,
getting to know his teammates, getting to know the culture,
understanding what the standard and expectation was. And he just
has completely made himself a sun devil in every way
and he earned it. And so you know, I'm not,

(35:41):
you know, remiss to give a new player a letter.
I did it with Tyler Gratton and he was one
of our best captains we've ever had. So you know,
mcgerrn's gonna do a great job. And he was the
captain in London for arguably the best junior hockey franchise
in the world, you know, and and almost want a
Memorial Cup there.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
So he's a special kid, special player. So it's a
great group.

Speaker 4 (36:03):
You guys call him goo.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
I call him McGillicutty.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (36:08):
I McGillicuddy, but he doesn't like that, but I call
him the.

Speaker 4 (36:13):
First few games, See how feel that one out?

Speaker 1 (36:15):
All right? I do want to like kind of get
this out of the way because I know you have
some news to share injuries heading into the season.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
What what can you tell.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Us right now?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Right now, we're we're in good shape. Obviously yesterday we
we we took a little bit of a blow. Obviously,
Brazen Boser is going to be a huge piece for
us this year, and uh, he he got injured. I'm
not going to say what it is. It's not going
to be long term. We're hoping it's just the first
four games, but he's got to sit out and let
something heal, but it's not long term. I would say,

(36:44):
worst case, we'll have him back for conference play, but
we're hoping to have him back by Augustana, you know,
and and we're deep, and we have the young deep
experience as an ideal. But we have four freshmen that
are really really talented and and we're excited to.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
See him go.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
But that's it. That's the only injury right now.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, and Jack Beckx obviously has to sit the first
six games due to the NCAA ruling.

Speaker 5 (37:07):
So with that on the back end and the idea
that while they are very talented, you have four freshmen
that are gonna be thrust into some playing time and
I have earned that playing time. Where do you balance
as a coaching staff early going through some of the
growing pains that they get through learning college hockey, and
the idea that it's it's a lot of win now,
is we learned early last year?

Speaker 4 (37:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (37:28):
No, I mean it's they're gonna make mistakes. It's not
going to be perfect on Friday for either team or
anybody that plays in the country. Hockey is a weird thing,
and college hockey we're just now in full hours, right,
So you pretty much start competition the same week. You
can pretty much do unlimited things with your players, So
you have to really pick and choose what you go

(37:49):
about doing and what you cover and what you focus on,
at least the programs that follow the rules due because
there are some that don't. But we do know so,
but our guys are ready and at the end of
the day, knowing it's not going to be perfect and
knowing that there's going to be mistakes made, they just
got to be hard mistakes, right, And as long as

(38:10):
we compete and we play to our identity, which is
relentless hockey, I like our chances against anybody, you know,
it'll work itself out.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Off the ice.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Before we preview this series, got to ask about the
big pomp and circumstance that will happen ahead of the
game on Friday, and of course Joey Decord getting his
number thirty five retired forever. How'd you come to that decision,
who was involved in that decision and why is it
so important for you to do as a team.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
When he want he won.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
He was a part of the World Championship team, right,
the first first team USA that won a World A
men's World Championship and over ninety years, and that's a
that's a huge thing to have a Sun Devil do that.
He's a full time starter in the NHL. He was
the second ever official visit in our program. We literally
met in what you could deem a janitor's closet at
ocean side. Yeah, and I just laid out what the

(38:59):
vision was, right, and he wanted to be a part
of it. He was like, I want to make this
vision reality, all right, even though there's so much he
didn't get an experience, but he took us to our
first NCAA tournament and and so anyway, you know, after
the World Championship, I had the idea. I called Graham, say, hey,
what do you think about this? And he was like,
it's a no brainer, right, It's a no brainer. So

(39:22):
Dax couldn't believe it. He's so excited. We were texting
today and I'm just so proud of him and so
happy that he is a guy that our players can
look up and see his name and number in the rafters.
He deserves it and and I'm glad he's the first.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
He'll be at Muller Arena of course Friday for the
ceremony and then join us in the first intermission on
our broadcast. For anybody who's not going to make it
to the game, you'll still be able to hear from him.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
So we're excited for that.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
I was watching he was either yesterday or the day
before a media availability that you had about eight years
ago when Joey was was still playing three peace Suit.

Speaker 4 (39:55):
I think this was midweeks.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
I think those are those are in the past right.

Speaker 5 (40:00):
The it was a question about who's your goaltender and
you write it all three names Joey. Joey's had the
most starts, but he's not the goalie, like all this
stuff and trying to figure it out. You mentioned the
vision for the program that you laid out starting then
where you are now, have you been able to have
a moment with him like hey, like step back and
look at it, like we kind of did this.

Speaker 3 (40:20):
Yeah for sure, Like I mean like that and this
is the thing, like like there there's there's such a
development curve for all these kids.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
You know that people.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Don't understand Joey. Joey's first year is stunk, Like he's stunk,
you know, and in his second year he got he
got a lot better. And his thirty years, he was unstoppable,
and he signed an NHL contract, you know, and that
and that's the Johnny Walker's freshman year is our all
time leading scorer. I scratched him, I think three in
the first ten games, you know. And and so these kids,

(40:50):
it takes time to figure it out. And you know,
that's that's part of my job is is to to
not make it.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
Easy for him, you know.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
And and sometimes you gotta you gotta give him. I
always love our guys, but it's tough love. And I
think Johnny and Joey would would tell you that, you know.
And Joey had some not so great moments one on
one with me, you know. And and but we have
a great relationship, and I love the kid. I'm close
with his family. We've had a lot of great moments,
you know. I think the two really good moments stick

(41:20):
out in my mind. One is, obviously, we went to
the tournament. We lost to Hartburger, to Quinnipiac. We get
back that that day and Joey called, He's okay, they
want to sign me, and I'm supposed to play in
Buffalo in two nights. And I'm like, Wow, like, this
is incredible, and he did it, and I got the
first flight out that I could. I went and watched
him and he was in all of a sudden devil

(41:41):
gear on the ice in the NHL, his pads, his
helme and everything, and so that was a surreal moment
for our program and and him and his family, and
I got to watch the game with his family. And
then when he got drafted by the Kraken on the
expansion draft, I was in Boston coaching Isabelle's summer team
and Joey wanted to take our family to dinner, and

(42:02):
it was the night of the expansion draft, so we
went to dinner with him and his family and then
we went back to his apartment and he got picked.
So so it's been it's been some it's been some good,
really cool moments with him and his family. They are
unbelievable people and he's just he's the best ambassador you
could ask for for our program.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
No question.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
And it'll be another that third special moment coming hopefully
this Friday. That'll be really cool. After that, you guys
have a hockey game to play in fact two over
the course of the weekend. Give us your scouting report
on Penn State. Of course, a frozen fourteen a year ago,
huge expectations this year. What you got on the Nidney.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Lions obviously very talented, very deep, you know, there's no holes,
right like any any team I think in the Big
Ten or the NCCHC. Now with increased scholarships, you're just
gonna see so much depth, you know.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
And so they have a lot of talent.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
They have, you know, obviously Gavin McKenna, who's projected to
be the first overall pick in this coming year's draft.
Jackson Smith is is a really high in talented d
I think he was twelfth overall and this year's drafted US.
And they have a lot of other really good players.
Aiden Fink is one of the best players in college
hockey last year fifty three points.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
He's back.

Speaker 3 (43:11):
They're loaded a frozen four team that on paper is
even better than they.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
Were last year.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So we're gonna see what or mado pretty quick, you know,
and and I'm excited for it. I think that our
guys are going to be up for the challenge. And yeah,
it's no secret that we were a team that we
felt like should have got in last year and The
team that took our spot was Penn State, so hopefully
we h we can pay him back this weekend.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Their goaltender, by the way, since Sergiev went pro is
Kevin Raidler. You guys saw against Omaha.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Really good goalie, Yeah, really good goalie.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
Look, I'd be remiss not to ask you a little
bit further about Gavin McKenna, consensus projected number one overall
draft pick in twenty twenty six. Is he the real
deal in your view? And do you prefer to face
him in his first collegiate hockey action versus perhaps when
he has some games in his pocket.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
You know, I don't know. I mean, I guess ask
me on Monday, you know. But he's Yeah, he's clearly
a special player and and I think it's it's a
great like look that it's great for college hockey. I'm
I'm really happy that that those kids in the chl
are now playing college hockey. It makes us better, it
makes us deeper. It will become the new normal that

(44:19):
people get used to, and it will be great.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I'm a huge advocate for it.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
We're the first to commit a HL player because of that,
and you get kids like Gavin McKenna playing college hockey.
It it's going to elevate college hockey to you know,
easily one of the highest levels of hockey in the world.
And and I think that's a good thing, you know,
So for our program selfishly, to have his first games,
you know, in in a Penn State and Nitney Lion

(44:44):
uniform on as US campus at Mold Arena, there will
be more eyes on this game and more notoriety you know,
attached to this game than maybe any college hockey game
ever internationally. And that's an opportunity for us, for our guys,
for our pro and for Arizona State as an institution
that you know, Thanksgavin, it's awesome.

Speaker 4 (45:06):
I appreciate so, coach.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Before we let you go, just overall, I asked Kyle this,
but but similar question to you.

Speaker 4 (45:13):
How special is to open this.

Speaker 1 (45:14):
Season at home on the heels of the success of
last year against this opponent in particular, and then getting
to host the icebreaker just a week after that.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, I mean this opponent in particular.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I have had so much respect for guy, you know,
and and the history between our programs. The parallels are
there's a lot of similarities and there's there's some that aren't,
but I think people you know, it's people don't even
know this. But but in my opinion, one of the
biggest reasons why we went Division one was because guy
who's a great friend of mine and a great dude,

(45:47):
their head coach, agreed to play our club team when
they were at Division one and we were a great
club team. If you played us, he lost, And so
we went to Penn State and we got to win,
like we beat a Division one team, and and we
earned it like it was legit. I mean, we beat
him by a couple of goals and we just outplayed them.
We were really good, and it raised eyebrows all over

(46:09):
the place, most importantly here on our campus and around
our community. They're like, what's going on there? Those guys
are actually really good. What's going on with the club
hockey team at ASU. Then we proceeded to win a
national championship and here we are. But it all got
started because of guys willingness to play us and what
those kids did on that ice at Penn State that year.

(46:31):
That's when this really started to take shape and why
we are where we are today.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Coach Greg Powers for the first time this year on
Hell Frozen Over His Sun. Devil's hit the ice for
their home opener this Friday at seven pm. You'll hear
from him on our pregame show, which begins at six thirty.
We appreciate you as always, sir, and we will chat
with you on Friday.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Thanks boys, Thanks Coach.

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Back on the Rooftop overtime on Hell Frozen Over, Tyler
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to call it, that just flies by, it, doesn't it.

Speaker 5 (50:35):
I Mean it feels like literally yesterday walking out of
the hotel to get to the airport up in Saint Paul.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Yeah, to get it. Yeah, it's a good thing. It's
much warmer though than we were back then. All Right,
first off, I know you and I both share the
sentiment that we are pretty pumped up for season four
in the booth together, welcome back to the valley. I
know you were in Memphis, I was traveling. So summer
is behind us and we are officially in the zone
for hockey season. I want to start by asking you,

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and we alluded to this with coach and even with
Kyle smollan a little bit, but the value of reaching
new heights last year and the experience for the returners,
guys like Kyle smull and Bennett Shimmick, Cruz, Lucius Culin, Potter,
so on and so forth. I personally see that as
as such value so valuable, and Kyle said as much

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with using it as fuel what happened last year to
bring into this year in a positive way.

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Yeah, And I think anytime we have success for the
first time at a new level, right, a lot of
people think, oh, it raises the ceiling of where the
program could be. It also raises the floor because it
raises internal expectation of oh, like we can do this,
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which hopes to bring a little bit more durability. It
raises everything for the program and can only add to
the competitiveness in every single game, especially to start the season,
which is really important.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Well, you start the season at home, right, which is
it matters? I think it matters, especially two back to
back series on one tournament one series. But then you
also don't have the injuries that you had last year
right at the beginning of the year, especially Cruz Lucius
was out half the season. Now he's back and according
to coach Powers, is in as good as form as anybody, right,
So that's pretty exciting. The leadership group is fantastic, even

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guys without letters. I mean, you heard Powers say they
had to make a tough call on who's actually gonna
wear the letters, and so you have five guys who
are really going to lead this locker room, I think
to again New Heights.

Speaker 5 (52:37):
Ye, look, I'm excited for for every aspect of that,
but just listening to Kyle and how he was going
through the offseason and using fuel. But also look, he's
a guy that has wanted to be here for a
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they're freshmen or coming from elsewhere, understand that, hey, there's
an expectation in and a price to hold here to
keep this program in good place for the guys they
came before us.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
You know, we haven't even talked about two newcomers who
are homegrown talent Logan morele ty Nash electrifying players mean
players according to Powers. I'm excited to see that on
display this weekend. I got a chance to actually meet
them at the end of season banquet last year they
had come into town. They were there with a lot
of the old guys and some of the returners as well.

Speaker 4 (53:31):
Great dudes, fantastic guys.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
I mean I got to talk to them for maybe
five minutes, and I could tell that they're going to
immerse themselves in this team.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
And I think that that is the case.

Speaker 5 (53:40):
And immediately become fan favorites too. I think they did
an event a couple of football games ago over at
the Novis Corridor and got a big round of applause.
So for the fans to have some local people, especially
the young kids, to see people that grew up in
similar environments at them. To be able to play on
the ice here at home is cool.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
Got to ask you about the tending situation. It's uh,
you know. We You and I went back and forth
a couple of times as Hasley's the news about Hasley
coming here came in. We've been talking for gosh, I
feel like four years, but it's only been about a
year or two about Sam Urban and when he would finally,
you know, break into Arizona State. I'm pretty excited to
see both of them this year.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Yeah, Like it's a present and future move to have
both those guys at the same time, and excited to
see the future for both.

Speaker 1 (54:25):
All Right, I do want to ask you, as we
do each year, I have to get one prediction on
the season from you, and I'm gonna hold you to
and I'm asking Richie to clip this right now. I
think Cruz Lucia's has a massive comeback season, like in
the top five NCCHC scorer scores.

Speaker 5 (54:41):
Ye, all right, I like that. I think Colin Potter
takes a leap. I think he leads the NCC in goals.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Wow, okay, quite the prediction. Hope you'd turn out to
be right, but I'm holding you to it either way.
College Hockey officially upon us once again. Hope you can
make it out to the games this weekend seven pm.
Puck drop Friday, five o'clock on Saturday. You can watch
both on NCCHD dot TV or listen in here on
Fox Sports nine.

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Pregame coverage starts thirty minutes before puck drop. Thanks to
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