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January 23, 2023 54 min

Dr. Errol Pierre is a corporate executive, leader, mentor, and outspoken advocate for healthcare equity in the US and Haiti. HIs new book, The Way Up, helps underrepresented individuals from all ethnic backgrounds achieve their professional goals and elevate their careers in today's workplace. 


What you probably don’t know is that grief - in one form or another - plays a part in every one of those roles. 

In this episode we cover: 


  • Why a book about climbing the corporate ladder gets the spotlight on a show about grief
  • How little kid Errol’s delayed root canal influenced adult Errol’s entire career
  • Can we get behind the headlines and really understand the actual humans behind the crisis in healthcare access? (hint: yes, but it involves activating certain brain centers) 
  • Building the equitable world from the ground up: Errol’s work in Haiti 
  • Why making healthcare more accessible will prevent more grief (when it’s avoidable), and reduce suffering (when it’s unavoidable) 
  • Navigating racism in the corporate world


About our guest: 

Dr. Errol Pierre is the Senior Vice President of State Programs at a large non-profit health plan in New York. He provides leadership, mentorship, and guidance to professionals of color across various industries, ensuring the advancement of diverse professionals into leadership positions. He’s also fiercely committed to healthcare equity - building a world where systemic equity is built into the foundation of all new ventures. 

Find his new book, The Way Up: Climbing the Corporate Mountain as a Professional of Color, wherever you get books.


 Follow Dr. Errol Pierre at @ErrolLPierre on most social platforms, or visit


Additional resources:

For more on grief in the workplace, read “The Burden of Bereavement: Grief is the latest challenge for employers in the coronavirus era” and “How to Talk to a Grieving Customer”


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