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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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This is Fraud Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
All right, this week got Fraud Friday. Something new Marie,
the tax prepared scam.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Yeah, this is a big deal and really frightening. And
you know what happens is these people there are called
ghost preparers and they end up screwing them over that
you just get a notification from the IRS. Hey you
didn't file for your taxes.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, and that's hence ghost prepares.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Right, so we've got the Georgina is on the phone
with the Hi Georgina, are you there.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Hi, Yes, Hi Hallman, I'm here all.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Right, Welcome to the show Fraud Friday.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
And Marie just explained a little bit about these tax
preparer scam people. Tell us, tell us where you're at,
who are you dealing with, and how much money did
you lose?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Let's get right down to it.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Well, friend of a friend preferred me to this guy
from Craiglist. I should have known better. He prepared my
taxes for twenty twenty three, charged me one thousand dollars,
actually nine hundred and ninety nine dollars for his services.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
And he let you go on that buckha that dollar okay,
surpriser wasn't like the twenty three cents thrown it there
at the end.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Exactly a few months later, got a notification from the
IRS the taxes weren't filed now at all, back taxes, oh.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Man, Georgie, and I don't get it.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So nine hundred and ninety nine dollars, that's a lot
of money just to prepare one set of taxes for
one year.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Why would you pay that much money? Why?
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Well, it included past taxes from prior years because he
said I would get a higher return if he if
he's fired for me, so heed.
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Okay, So he was gonna go past.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And he said there is a fee associated to amend
the tax So it was three years worth of taxes steady.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Of course there's an extra fee for that.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
See yeah, okay, So that's where the nine hundred and
ninety nine dollars comes from. Okay, it's already a year
has gone by. You haven't heard from this guy in
a year.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Yeah, I haven't. I left countless messages every month.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
It's a year old now, I know. Anthony said he
did pick up the phone last night, which is great.
Speaker 7 (02:31):
I was shocked by the way that he actually was
still there, right.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I guess he hasn't been caught yet.
Speaker 8 (02:36):
That's probably why I'm assuming.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
These tax returned preparation services are mostly going regulated.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
They got to be regulated better.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
They got to really, I agree. You know, you gotta
trust more than just a trophy sitting on his mantle.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Initially there was a secretaryhood answered the phone there, so
I left a few messages with her, and then a
few months later that number was our of service. I
couldn't get up on from there. But then I noticed
that there's another number here. It must be his cell phone,
his personal cell phone number. Oh so okay, there was
(03:09):
his card attached to the paperwork that I sent here,
So I happy, Oh.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Ahead, but business business card?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
All right, Georgina, here we go. Let us do our thing.
It's gonna get a little scary for a minute with us,
and we're gonna do our best. We have an eighty
five percent return ratio. No pun intended on getting people's
money back so we're going to try to get your
nine hundred dollars back, you nine hundred and ninety nine dollars.
I am at some point during the conversation going to
ask you to come in on the call to identify yourself.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
Okay, okay, yeah, Also make sure you don't when you
do come on, don't say that.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
We were for a radio station or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Okay, could you understand, Georgina, don't mention anything about it.
This is a radio show. Okay, when you come on, okay.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
I want you're listening to Fraud Friday with the KTU
Morning Crew. We'll be right back with part two when
Hollywood and Marine make the call. Buckle up because things
are about to get rough.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Shulman in Hill, New York's Injury and welcome.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Back for part two for this week's Forward Friday.
Speaker 8 (04:23):
Hello, this is Scott.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
Hi Scott.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
My name is Carol, and I need someone to help
me with my taxes and I hope you can.
Speaker 8 (04:35):
Yeah, it's great. Yeah, we do a tax preparation. How
did you hear about us?
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I heard about you on Craigslist.
Speaker 8 (04:42):
Craig.
Speaker 9 (04:43):
I don't advertise on Craiglist, so I don't know that
but not anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:47):
But oh yeah it was.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
It was my friend's best friend's husband. He ended up
not using you because he said it was just a
little out of his price range to use you. But
it's not a problem with me, so so yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (05:05):
Yeah, I mean, yeah, we do, we do some we do.
We do. We like to do a good job what
we do, right.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
So I have a couple of questions. You have credentials
right to do this?
Speaker 9 (05:15):
You've yeah, I've taken the tax preparation course like many
people at H and R Block and other tax services take.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
Okay, great, And when you prepare my taxes, are you
going to be using my pay stub or W two forms?
Speaker 8 (05:34):
We could we could use.
Speaker 9 (05:35):
The pay stubs actually are very informative because they tell
us how much withholding your pudding, and it gives us
an idea to some eye how much you made or
in the year.
Speaker 8 (05:44):
Ah.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
So okay, so you get the pay stubs too.
Speaker 8 (05:48):
It's just as good. You know, we can calculate and
figure it out.
Speaker 6 (05:51):
Scott, how much is your fee?
Speaker 8 (05:54):
We charged three hundred and sixty dollars to follow their
tax return.
Speaker 6 (05:58):
If I wanted you to go back and see if you.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
Could, you know, look at my other tax returns to
see if I could get some money back.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
Would you be able to do that?
Speaker 9 (06:09):
Or you look at your information and follow an amended
return with the irs.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That's where he gets you.
Speaker 6 (06:14):
Yeah, of course. And how much is that? Just out
of curiosity?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Probably nine hundred and ninety nine dollars. He'll keep it
right under the threshold of a thousand.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Right, not not go the full thousand.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
You want to sound legit, right, if you go for
a grand you want to go for that round figure,
it's not going to sound real.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
But if he gets here sixty nine, he'll get you later.
Right now. He just wants three and change now, and
that rights Scott?
Speaker 8 (06:39):
Excuse me, Scott?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Yes, just a bunch of bush, right, Scott?
Speaker 8 (06:47):
Who am I talking to?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
My name is Sean Hamilton. I'm a private investigator here
in Brooklyn. I don't know if you remember, because you've
been ghosting this woman. Our client, Georgina Georgina Flatbush lives
in flat Bush, Georgia.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
Are you there, Georgina Gonzalez?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Can you identify Scott? Your boys?
Speaker 8 (07:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:07):
Is this is this him?
Speaker 8 (07:09):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (07:09):
This is him?
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Okay, Scott. So here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Georgina has hired us as a private investigating firm. Uh,
you've been caught.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Seems that you caught it. What caught it? What? Well?
Speaker 2 (07:22):
This is a woman that's been trying to get a
hold of you for an extensive amount of time now,
and you've been ghosting her and not calling.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
Her calling her back. I've been calling her back.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
So you know who she is?
Speaker 9 (07:32):
Oh, because I've gotten I've gotten multiple messages. I returned
her calls and I never hear back either.
Speaker 5 (07:38):
You know he hasn't called me back. You you never
called back, Scott. I let to pass some messages and.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
You didn't know call back.
Speaker 9 (07:45):
I have phone logs, I said, I call back every
time somebody calls me, I call you back.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (07:50):
I left a couple of messages. I got some messages.
I said, your voicemail.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
You haven't called me back? What is my money?
Speaker 8 (07:58):
I didn't get your money?
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Scott? Can you can you can you send us some
of those files that you said you have documentation that
you've called her back?
Speaker 9 (08:07):
Can you request you know, it's it's private information, it's
it's a client information that there's certain rules about it.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
But okay, so you're going to play that story before
we go to the state Attorney General's office. The I
R s uh to haul you through all kinds of
small class and white people.
Speaker 8 (08:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Your possible charges, by the way, are theft by deception,
which is a misdemeanor.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Consumer fraud. Why are fraud? If she wired you money,
you are so screwed.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
She actually paid by Okay, Okay, then it's documented. It's documented.
Can you get detectives and over a precist? Agree?
Speaker 8 (08:43):
What are we doing here? What we file the tax returns?
We don't.
Speaker 9 (08:47):
We're done our cases. Our case is done when we
file it.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
We don't.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
We don't like follow up and ask if they got
their their their whatever back.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
That's just a minute ago.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You said you did call her back many times and
left messages.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
I call her back when she leaves voicemails, but I
don't have a reason to call her back. But once
her taxes are done, she calls and leaves all these
crazy messages and stuff. I don't always talk, so I
call her back and she never answers.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Now she filed with you back in twenty twenty three.
She filed filed.
Speaker 8 (09:14):
Like I said, I call back.
Speaker 9 (09:16):
People called me a yeah, I called back within twenty
four hours and somebody calls me.
Speaker 8 (09:19):
That's the way I work.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
She wants her money back, Scott, that's all she wants.
Speaker 8 (09:22):
And this is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Scott, have you ever heard of the piece of software
called spyinger before? Have you ever heard of spynger?
Speaker 8 (09:30):
What?
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Of course you have it? You're not a private investigator.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Do you still reside in bay Ridge, Brooklyn? Do we
know a lot more about you, Scott than you think?
Do you reside in bay Ridge, Brooklyn?
Speaker 8 (09:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
In third Avenue? Okay, Scott, we're going to hang up
now and we're.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
Gonna help her get what is all about? What are
you trying to accomplish? If it's do you want me
to just return her money? Yeah? Is you e her
back her money for her?
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Pretty simple, Scott. You're a ghost preparer. We know exactly
what you're doing.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
I've done thousands of returns.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I know you have, Scott, you're big. You got the
ribbon on the wall. I understand.
Speaker 6 (10:13):
Yeah, he's a master tax preparer.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Georgina. You obviously he paid you through Zell, so you
still have Zell? Yeah, okay, Okay, Zeller back the money?
Speaker 8 (10:25):
Well, just take care of that, Anthony.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
What do we do now?
Speaker 7 (10:28):
You guys should see each other's names on your zell
still because it'll say like previous transactions, so you probably
still have each other's info.
Speaker 9 (10:36):
When I am I going to send her back the
money and then you guys are still going to file
a complaint or something?
Speaker 8 (10:40):
I mean, what are we doing there?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Well, you know it's up to Georgina. But Georgina, where
do you.
Speaker 9 (10:45):
I want to know if she's gonna press charges and stuff?
I did all that kind of stuff? Why why let
let it? Why would I pay her back money?
Speaker 8 (10:51):
Now?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Georgina, if he sends you back the thousand dollars, what
what's your plan?
Speaker 5 (10:56):
No? I want him to take up the interest I've
been in for no time. If he doesn't pay the interest,
then I'm gonna press charges.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
What is the interest? I we didn't know about interest somewhere.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
You're not a lending institution. You can't charge interest.
Speaker 3 (11:09):
No, No, the irs interest is what she's talking about.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
That's not she Hey Scott, she's not. She's not pretending
to be a lending institution. She wants you know, obviously
it's going.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
To be penalties here.
Speaker 8 (11:21):
It's fifteen dollars. Scott.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Hey, Scott, Hey, Scott, she wants the fifteen hundred dollars
because of penalties. Do you have the fifteen hundred or not?
She's gonna go to the cops.
Speaker 8 (11:31):
Okay, fifteen hundred. We're happy. Now you get that'll that'll
drop off.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Send it to her right now. Please send it to
her right now. You have do you have? Just look
up the information, get the information.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
On your cell right there. You guys have already done
a transaction on Zell in the past. You just see
it right there. Just Georgie, I want you to let
me know as soon a break open the cell phone,
take it out away from your ear right now, open
up your app.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
And let us know when the money goes through.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Okay, because I don't know if you have a notification
or an alert or anything.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Just let us know as soon as it comes through.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Fifteen hundred dollars all in, Georgina. And what you're saying,
Georgina at fifteen hundred dollars, you are not going to
go to the NYPD. But I can tell you right now, Scott,
You're you are being watched right now, Scott.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Georgina, let us know when you receive the money.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
If anybody recognizes his boys, go check your taxes.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Okay, we're waiting, Georgina, we're waiting.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Okay, sell Ruthie.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
Okay, Zelo, got it, Scott. My name's Hollywood Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
I'm a radio personality on WKTU Radio here in New
York City. You're you're on something called Fraud Friday, and
we're going to talk to you about an incentive to
allow us to actually air this phone call.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
I know it sounds a little crazy right now. You've
been caught and we'll talk to you off air.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You should be a shame of yourself.
Speaker 8 (12:53):
Look, I did my job. Things went awright. I don't know.
I got to figure out what happened.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
But I'm gonna set your excilmer. You're bit. I'm you're
a piece of you should be out of business right now.
Speaker 8 (13:07):
Yeah, well all right, you know so at least I'm
giving you your money back.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Okay, guys, Okay, okay, guys, Okay, all right, very good
frid Friday.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Have you been a victim of fraud? Have you been
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KTU Morning Crew would love to hear from you text
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