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February 7, 2025 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are about to hear a feature that was created
to expose the scammers, thieves, and con artists among us.
The dialogue and temperament about to be used by Hollywood
Hamilton does not necessarily reflect the views and opinions of iHeartMedia.
This is Fraud Friday, Marie.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Yeah, did you know that?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
It is estimated that tens of millions of dollars are
lost annually to pet scams in the United States alone,
according now According to the Better Business Bureau and the FTC,
pet scams are one of the most common types of
online fraud today.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
I can't with the pats. You know how I feel
about animals.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
You just got a little one yourself.

Speaker 4 (00:42):
I have a labordoodle which is half labrador and half poodle.
It's a labordoodle.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, we've got Sarah on the phone with us. Hi, Hi, Sarah,
how are you.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
I'm good. I'm a little upset, but I'm good.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
I know. That's why you're on the show Fraud Friday.
You got you what you were going for. You wanted
a little pug, right, tell us a little about the
pug that you wanted and the disaster that you were
faced with.

Speaker 5 (01:09):
I'm a widow and I'm feeling a little lonely, and
I thought it wouldn't it be great to have a
little dog as a companion, just two things with them.
And I was browsing on a website and I saw
the cute as pug.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
It was adorable, and this was online.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
It seems really reliable. It seemed like it. It had
all the bells and whistles.

Speaker 4 (01:29):
He was a preader.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
Yeah. I saw on the website that he specialized in pugs.
He had a lot of pictures for me to choose from,
and I just fell in love with this one. And
his prices were really reasonable and was like a thousand dollars,
So of course I started clicking to get more pictures.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
What's the normal price for a pug?

Speaker 5 (01:52):
I mean my friends had told me that I could
spend at least three thousand and more.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
So what he did, Marie, is he they went for
the low, the low price, you know, the the budget pug.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Budget.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
Pugg got her with the championship, No, not the championship,
Westminster Dog Champion.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
But what what what we understand, Sarah is you wound
up with no.

Speaker 5 (02:18):
Pug, no pug. And not only that, is that he started,
you know, texting me because I wanted more information. And
now he's texting me. He's like, well, there are a
few people that want this pug, so I better pay
him right away. And he had to ship the pugs
to me and to ship the dog.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
So he got you with the shipping.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
So now he wants eight hundred more dollars, so I
could be the one who gets him and he would
ship it right away.

Speaker 4 (02:46):
Oh my gosh, after you're already emotionally attached to this puppy,
I have him named you know.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
Okay, so you kept sending him money.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
You sent him the thousand, you sent them the full grand,
and then the shipping, and was there any other.

Speaker 5 (03:05):
Well, he wanted to pat insurance, so the crate and everything,
so it all came up to another eight hundred dollars
and I gave him.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
But you can't blame her completely because you've got to
give up some sort of money. There's some sort of
exchange has to be there. They give it the posite.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
You got to give a deposit, right, and then they go, oh, okay,
well you want to come see the dog. Oh, you
can't come see the dog if you're out of state.
Right right, So now how much money are you out
for this puppy?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Total?

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Two thousand dollars and now I have no dog. In
midnight paid him, the website went down and no more communication,
and I couldn't you wouldn't answer my chext.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Okay, So all right, so I've I've heard enough here
on Friday, Friday.

Speaker 4 (03:50):
So Sarah, what exactly do you do you want to
get out of that?

Speaker 5 (03:54):
Well? I had heard your radio show the other day
and I had heard that you would help people and
you know, get their money back. I mean, that's really
where I want that.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Well, we're gonna go We're gonna we're gonna all right, listen, look,
we're gonna go ahead and try to get the money back.
Sometimes we do get the money back. Sometimes we don't
get the money back. If we do not get the
money back, that gives us the green light to call
every pet scam.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Agency in this country. We will report him.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
I think Samantha is at nine eleven different agencies.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Director of Robert. There's eleven different agencies.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
He needs to be shut down. This guy.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
We can't shut him down. We can't call these agencies.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
If you want to accept the money, we can't say
one thing and then rat him out. It's one or
the other. Do you want us to go shut him down?
Do you want your money back? Which is it gonna be?

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I want my money back?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (04:43):
The man who kept texting me his name was under
the website. They were right outside of Philly. So I
was kind of surprised that you know where I was located,
that they even was gonna charge me for shipping.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
See this is how I'm talking about. See what this
is what I'm talking about. Somebody had a Philly. You
can't make the drive down there. The people out there
you can't trust. You can't trust anybody these days. You
got to make the drive, especially of Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
That's a day. Take a Sunday. I don't want to
come down. I don't want to come down too hard
on Sarah. I don't want to. Let's just do this.
We'll be right back. Fraud Friday will be right back.
We'll make the call. We are back, Fraud Friday one O.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
Three five K to you to beat him New York
Collie with Handlton the K to your morning crew. And
during the break, Samantha, what were you and Anthony talking about?

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah? What happened, Anthony.

Speaker 6 (05:32):
We ended up finding out to this guy actually has
another website with the same dogs German shepherds, a bunch
of dogs that he had on the original website. All
through my friend who's a copy did some little investigating
for us. We just got send in the shirt. That's
about it.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
So this we'll send him a T shirt, all right,
But also on this particular website he specializing in German shepherds, German.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Shepherds, so he's got a pug site or he did
have a pug site or took that took down.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
All right, if you just your any of us Fraud Friday.
We've got Sharah on the phone. She was just taking
advantage of on Fraud Friday. She husband Saidley passed away
a year ago and she you know, she needed a
dog for companionship. And she was totally abused and taking
taking to the cleaners on this scam, on this piece
of fraud. It's a pet scam, fraud, and we found
the guy and he is going to get a call
from us.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Next you're listening to Fraud Friday with the KTU Morning Crew.
We'll be right back with part two when Hollywood and
Marie make the call. Buckle up because things are about
to get rough.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
This report is sponsored.

Speaker 7 (06:34):
By Marker's not going to help you.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Hi, Mark, how are you?

Speaker 7 (06:45):
I'm doing good? How about yourself?

Speaker 5 (06:47):
Good?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
You know, I was roaming around your site and uh,
I saw a poppy that I really am interested in.
It's one of the shepherds. Uh three month old, I think.

Speaker 7 (06:59):
Is my Yeah, that is one of our best dogs, puppies,
that is one of our best puppies. And he's still
available if you're interested.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
Excellent, excellent, just you know, houses temperament. What can you
tell me about him?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (07:12):
Yeah. So we we spent a lot of time training
them as early as we can because we want them
to be very good guard dogs and respectors of the house.

Speaker 4 (07:19):
A minute, this three months old, he's barely weaned.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Yeah, we want to start early. We want to get them.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Used tony, and he's a baby.

Speaker 7 (07:30):
It is a baby, and that's the best time to
train them, obviously, because their brains like to be molded
with education, and they like to be you know, they
want to work at their that's a German.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
How much is this dog? How much is it.

Speaker 7 (07:45):
This particular dog? He his father was an a k
c Champion pure Bread and he was just a stud
of stud he has produced some of the best puppies
that we've ever sold.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Three grand, that's pretty.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
Three thousand is the cost room all in. That's gonna
trained well, So all the training that we put into
the dog already is part of that. To create the
shipping costs, we have to do insurance through the chipper.
We have to make sure vaccinations are up to date,

(08:23):
and it's all in. All the vet bills and everything's
all combined. You're getting a pure Bread. This thing is
a beat.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I'm actually in Trenting. Oh nice, Okay, that'll save me
money on shipping. I can just come pick up the dog.
That way, I don't have to pay for any shipping.
I mean, I'm close to you.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
I mean I would prefer that we just do it
the way we've been running business for, you know, the
last ten years or so. We do. We have a
great relationship with the shipper and they'll get a few.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
For the dog. Isn't it better for the dog if
I come and pick it up. Is less stress on
the animal, isn't it. I mean I could just drive
over there and pick the puppy up. It's a baby.

Speaker 7 (09:04):
Oh yeah, it is a baby. But the thing is
when we ship it, it gets them used to noise
and cars, and it's another part of the training in
their brain to hear noises and not to be scared.
So that way, when you take your dog for a
nice hike or something, your dog's gonna be sitting in
the car, nice and calm. I'm not freaking now that
it's part of the process. It's part of the training

(09:26):
as well. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna
be transparent. We do have interest in this dog. He
is highly sought out after. I'm sure if you've seen
the site, which is how you contacted me, you're gonna
see some of the videos that you know of his training.
This dog is again sought after, and he was willing
to put down, you know, half the price as a

(09:47):
deposit for me to get the dog to him. So
if you want to pay full price, I'll i will
work with you on the whole shipping thing. I'll even
bring that price down for you to a bout. Let's
call it twenty five hundred, twenty six hundred. We'll remove
the shipping and I'll even drive it right to you, Trent,
full transparency. I am going to need the full amount upfront,
whether you want to do it through a digital payment,

(10:10):
you know Venmo cash app, you can wire it to me.
And then this dog is obviously in hight themand so
the quicker you get me the money, he's yours, and
I'll get them to you within the next We'll call
it four days, depending on your schedule, and I'll drive
them down myself.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (10:27):
Okay, you know what. I just love this dog.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
And fully trained Marie three months. It's just amazing. What's
this guy's name again, Mark, Mark, Mark, listen to me
full transparency. Yeah, my name's Hollywood Hamilton. I'm with k
TU Radio.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I'm with a radio station, and you're on a feature
called fraud Friday. This feature is a feature where we
trap scammers, con artists, people that take advantage of other people,
pretty much similar to what you're doing right now with Marie.
Marie is my co host on this called fraud Friday
and full transparency.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You don't want to make just listen to me. You
want to take the call.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
Everything's been bleeped out, your name, company, everything's been bleeped out.
But the reason why you want to you the reason
why you want to take this call. You just wouldn't
believe the resources that we have to be able to
find you and lock you up. You just listen to me.
From the State Attorney General's Office, patscams dot com, the

(11:30):
American Kennel Club, the local Animal Control and Human Society
out of Philadelphia, the Better Business Bureau, the Internet Crime
Complaint Center. We have deep, deep resources within each of
these agencies.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
And I have no no, no, no, just listen. Listen
to me. I have somebody on the phone right now
by the name of Sarah.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
Sarah, are you there, I'm here, Sarah.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
I really quickly, I want to I want you to
explain to him, really quickly who you are and how
you were taken advantage of by Mark.

Speaker 5 (11:59):
Mark. You and I were texting over when I was
on your website. I gave you money and I'm a
lonely senior. You need to be a good person. Give
me my money back.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
What's happened here is Mark is Sarah was also duped
and scammed and conned from you over a PUG that
she paid you fully for, and you apparently shut.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Down that website.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
It took us three weeks we finally found you. You
were associated with another site similar to the pugs Happy
Pugs or whatever, puggy bugs. And now we're gonna deal
with this two different ways, okay. Either we're going to
use every ounce of our being to devote every bit
of our life in the next thirty to forty fifty

(12:50):
sixty days.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Shut you down. No, shut you down and more likely.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Put be put in jail or possibly prison. Or Sarah,
how much does he owe you?

Speaker 5 (12:58):
It was me eight hundred dollars?

Speaker 7 (13:02):
Look, look I am there seems to be some sort
of miscommunication.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh okay, okay, go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (13:11):
Okay, and I'd be I'd be absolutely more than happy
to give was it Sarah that was her name? Yes,
I'd be more than happy to give her her money back.
And I'll even.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
When are you going to be When are you going
to be able to get the money back to her?

Speaker 7 (13:28):
I'll even add another two hundred dollars and I'll be
able to get her uh win.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
How how how are you going to do this? How
are you going to give her money back? She lives
she lives in Jersey. Then okay, we're gonna vet you're
gonna venmo her back.

Speaker 7 (13:41):
You can do that. It's just gonna just give me
about twelve hours or so, no more than a day.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Listen to me, okay, all right, okay, now listen to me.

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Okay, let's just let's just let's just say within twelve hours,
if you did not pay her back, we're calling you.
Were just a director of operations. Samantha and I, well,
we're going to be and Marie, we're going to be
going down this list.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
It's gonna be like fire.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
We're gonna go down the list, and we're gonna we're
gonna report you to everybody. We're gonna talk to Sarah
in twelve hours, okay, and understood, okay.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
And we know what's going on, and we will set
you up again.

Speaker 7 (14:13):
I'm not what you're painting me out to be. That's
not who I am.

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Don't be scamming people with animals, poppies.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
Come on, shut it down with you, shut it down, Sarah.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
Let us know.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
We want confirmation that he gets he got you the
money back.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
Thank you very much, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
All Right, so you let us know everybody, you call us,
You call us and let us know that he paid
you back.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
Have you been scammed taken advantage of well? Being a
victim of fraud, The Morning Crew is here to help.
Tell us your story. KTU dot com slash Fraud Friday.
That's KTU dot com slash Fraud Friday. And believe me,
they will get it done.
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