Hollywood Weekly Ep. 11: Date Night Flicks, Skeleton Crew, Arcane, Silo

Tonight on Hollywood Weekly, Jackson Felts and Anders Hirst talk about all the date night movies, and non date night movies, they have been watching, plus share their thoughts on the endings of Skeleton Crew, Arcane Season 1, and Silo.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
That was an idea, felt like I was on space. Yeah,
I'm not sure what to do with my hand. You
have part of my attention, you have the minimum amount.
What name? Who are you steal? Yes?

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Some minutes. Just want to watch the world. Let's see
a drinking one percent? Is that because you think you're fat?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Let's rock. Let's rock today.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
I actually do think I'm fat. I ate more chicken
KARAOKEI in like the last twenty four hours than I
think I've ate like in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
Chicken chery's pretty good, it is.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
And Christopher, who's not with us today, Yeah, because he's
a loser.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Yeah, where'd you get it from?

Speaker 2 (00:41):
He gave me a good recommendation of a spot in Beeran,
just south of Seattle. And they give basically like two
pounds of chicken on top of three pounds of rice.
And I've split that for about two and a half
meals today and my gosh.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Is it like? Okay? So you know, the way do
you judge an Asian, Thai, Chinese, Japanese, whatever kind of
place is really good is if it's super rundown, like
it looks like an ugly, ugly ass building you walk in,
they speak zero English. Is that a good description of
what's going on?

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Funny enough? No, really, it's actually a quite nice place
next to a fred Meyer, Like it's it's it's the
best chicken tariokia I've had in years.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Well that I'm telling you. Those are the best Asian
food places. I'm telling you right now, Like if you
walk in.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
You're generally right.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, it's just it's the way it is, like they
don't they just they make good food. That's what they're
known for. That's what they're going.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I mean, you have an Argentine wife, I haven't been
Gollia wife, and we both kind of understand, like, okay,
we have to would we try restaurants that very much
are not the typical American restaurant, and it is the
foreign speaking people in the restaurant. They make the best food. Yes,
it's it's I don't know they understand how to use spices.
First off, Well that too, that's something of the Beast

(01:59):
sponsor a Sapple, we love you, but yeah, you some
damn spice once in a while.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
I mean, they're not sponsoring us now, so your spices suck.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That's something that my wife always says too, is like
everyone kind of associates spicy food with everywhere in South America,
where it's really just Mexico. By the way, is it
really yes, the rest of South America does not.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Like Wow, Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, I mean just spices
and generally spices, not spicy spices.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
It just like it feels like the rest of the
world understands spices and most of America certainly doesn't.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, that's why we steal from other countries.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Huh.

Speaker 1 (02:33):
Welcome into Weekly.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
Everybody, Welcome into Hollywood Weekly. Jackson, Felts, Andrew. So it's
just two of us, Yeah, Chris is out, Jessman is out.
So for the first Is this the first time you
and I.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Have just you and I?

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Yeah, but it's also the first time that we've first
time we've done a podcast together since I got back
from the holidays or.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
No, we did one a couple of weeks ago. Uh,
and we checked in on the holidays, like movies and stuff.
You told me about it so much. Yeah. Yeah, we
have a ton of stuff to go over, I mean.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Really quick before we dive in. Because I said it
on last week's show. And I wanted to make sure
you knew too. So I had a TV break. I
had it for like six years and it broke. How
to get a new one, and for the first time
in my life, I invested in like a good TV,
like a great TV. Ye got a mini qled thing
im a bobber And I told Chris and Jess that
the first thing we do when we got the TV

(03:26):
was watch Lord of the Rings. Perfect as great as
Lord of the Rings was twenty years ago, was was
seeing on a new TV. And I'm not sure if
it's like Netflix or Max that tried to like redo
the look of it and make but boy, on a
certain TV with the settings that I watched on, you

(03:49):
can really tell the mistakes in the green screen and
the CGI.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
The special effects.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Yeah. Yeah, And it was sort of just like God
as good a Lord of the Rings was it is
it is was. I'm not sure it's meant to be
watched on one of these new TVs.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Yeah. That's kind of weird, because I mean not weird,
but it's an interesting thought because you know, I think
a lot of people the general consensus about Lord of
the Rings is that it's aged pretty well, right, because
I don't think it uses a ton of CGI. I mean,
like you said, the green screen examples are pretty apparent,
And though the one example I can think of off

(04:25):
the top of my head is when Mary and Pittpenner
on top of tree Beard.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Yes, and it's it.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
That's about the only moment I can distinctly remember that
I'm taking out of it. Because they don't use a
ton of CGI. It's a lot of like props. Like
I think you mentioned the MYS to me earlier, but
you were elms deep you could tell was a.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Those scenes in Two Towers.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
I would I would prefer a model because it still
has that real look. It's not like this fake like
CGI thing that you're trying to build.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Right. Star Wars was all models.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, and I love that. I think that's a better
use of special effects. That's still another version of special
effects and like shot verse shots sort of thing. That's
how they make the Hobbits look so short, even though
they're not like that much shorter than They do a
brilliant job with that. But yeah, I mean I could
see how maybe if you watch on a bigger TV.
And I think there's something to what you just said

(05:18):
about them changing things when they go to a streaming service,
because I remember when I first watched A great example
of that is when you first watch Star Wars on
the VHS from the original seventies eighties whenever you bought it.
I definitely haven't done that, that is, I mean, I
did when I was a kid, but like, that is
a totally not totally different to the same movie. But
there's a lot of little changes like that that you

(05:41):
were mentioning than the one you see on Disney Plus now.
So I think there may have been something like that
to make it look better on bigger and you know
better TVs. But I'm always a fan of the original.
Stick to the one that got you success. I know
you're not changing the story, you're not changing the characters.
You're just changing little things to make it look better.

(06:01):
But I don't care. I like the original is so
much better in almost every example. But that got me thinking,
is there an example of a movie that's older than
twenty five years Because Lord of the Rings the film
twenty five years ago that has aged better than that one,
like in terms of having a lot of special effects.
Because like, obviously, just like regular movies that you watch,

(06:21):
like top Gun or whatever.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know, Well, it's funny you mentioned Top Gun because
I mentioned this off the air that after watching a finish,
because it took us nine days to get through Fellowship
two hours. You watch extended versions of of course, okay,
and that's a great thing about it. I forgive it's
Netflix or Max, but one of them has all the
extended edition. Max has all the extended editions. Yeah, so
it's great. I mean, the Return of the King is
four and a half hours. It's tremendous. But after that,

(06:44):
we did watch Top Gun Maverick, right, and I mean
on a new two TV Top Gun Maverick is just like,
holy hell, that's good.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Well that's twenty twenty one versus I can't two thousand one.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
I think of like, you know, I really would have
to go back. The last movie that from that that
I really did watch, and it was just a few
months ago, was Back to the Future because it was
just on and I forget what just network, but I was,
you know, hell yeah, anytime. Huge Back to the Future fan,
and I'm a three defender. I'm a big Back to
the Future three defense.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I just think the whole I'm gonna get a lot
of people off my boat on this one. But I
think I think it's overrated the whole series, Like is
there a reason for that? I just never got into it.
I don't know. I just I'm not a big eighties
movies fan anyway neither, so like it has to be
really good to suck me in, and it's not my
thing thing. I know a lot of people love it,

(07:36):
and screw you, Softy, your movie suck No, But I
was I listen.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
I really love Back to the Future and I like
a lot of eighties movies. But I also think generally
the decade is overrated as a whole.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Totally is.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
But by the way, I still think the original Top
Gun is good. I was all watching Back to the Future,
and I think that the it does look very very good,
and I think it the first one, at least one
I watched definitely held out.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, so all right, but I have a soft spot
for those movies. Yeah, no, I feel thing. You don't
have a soft spot for Lord of the Rings.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
Oh, a huge soft spot. But when it's so no,
and again, I think you're right. I think the streaming
services tried to up or max tried to upgrade the
look of it, yeah, and it just didn't like I'm sorry,
Lord of the Rings was meant to be watched on
the big screen in two thousand and one, two two
and three. It wasn't meant to be watched on a
mini q LED TV in your home.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
So now, I don't know if you're into this kind
of stuff if you want to compare and contrast, but
maybe tried thrown in the DVD and just seeing if
it looks any different.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
Maybe not.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
It can still be like a newer DVD. It doesn't
have to be the ones that came out in two
thousand and two, two thousand and three when the movies
came out, But just see if there's anything different between
the DVD release and the streaming service, because I actually
am curious to see if there is something like.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
That would be very very curious as well. Well, let's uh,
let's get into it, because that I mean, I've mentioned
that's what I've been watching. But let's say there's so
much we have to discuss of what we've been watching
over these last couple of weeks. And I think that
this needs to be set right off the bat. We're
going full spoilers into Skeleton Crew. You finished Skeleton Crew.

(09:11):
I did. We're going full spoilers and His Skeleton Crew.
We'reruing full spoilers into Arcane season one. We're going full
spoilers into Silo season two. I'm gonna talk about a
couple other movies that I've been watching. So there's a
lot of spoilers to come for a lot of shows,
and I'm sure you'll list a few as well. So

(09:31):
all of these are fair game. And if you haven't
watched them, what the hell are you doing.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
With that said?

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Take it away?

Speaker 1 (09:37):
Okay, So for those of you who don't know, I
wasn't on last week's episode, and the reason was because
we made an impromptu trip down to Argentina to be
with my wife, Augustina and her family. Her grandma passed away,
so it was our last grandparent that was alive, so
we wanted just to hang out with the family and
the end to be with them. It was a good
like kind of choice. But the first couple of times
that we went down to Argentina, we were very stressed.

(09:59):
The previous time was with for a wedding, and the
previous time before that was my first time going down
there and meeting the family. That's a stress. So yeah,
like just this was one of the first times where
it's like we're kind of going down. Yes, it was
in a not great scenario for the reasoning, but my
wife was in a good spot mentally. It was more
to go down to be with her mom. Uh So
we were just kind of like, all right, let's just
watch a ton of stuff, you know, and on the

(10:20):
on the flights there, and like we had a little
bit more of layover than we would like to have
since made a last minute ticket purchase, so you kind
of just tried to make the most of it. I'm
just gonna go through everything that I watched.

Speaker 2 (10:31):
There's gonna be a lot of discussions on a lot
of things.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Four movies and then like including the ones that you
mentioned three like not I haven't finished one of them,
but three TV shows. Okay, Father of the Bride, Oh Classics,
So not the original one with Steve Martin. There's another
one that came out in twenty twenty two. I know
it has Andy Garcia is the main uh actor in it.

(10:59):
He's the dad who is Terry Benedict in Ocean's eleven. Okay,
and it also has oh this, you know, exactly why
I was about to bring it up. I was about
to bring it up. Fun funny, it wasn't my suggestion.
This is actually from Augustina's because I was telling her
that I put art Adria Ariona on my list for

(11:23):
celebrities that I really think are very attractive. That's exactly
what I was off the air exactly. So we felt, okay,
there's another movie she's in. Let's let's watch it. Because
she likes Adria Ariona as well. It's about her. It's
about a whole family, but she is getting married. They
live in Miami. The dad's a very traditional they moved

(11:47):
there from they defected from Cuba as a family. The
daughter is in law school in New York. There's two
daughters actually that the older daughters in law school in
New York. And she meet someone from Mexico, also in
law school in New York. And they meet and they
kind of fall in love and they announce said they're

(12:08):
getting married. And the dad is very like traditional, like, okay,
you have to ask for my permission to marry my daughter,
like I'm the father of the bride, I'm I'm paying
for the wedding, like all the very traditional tropes and
as someone who just got married who tried to avoid
a lot of those tropes, this is a perfect, perfect
movie for both me and my wife. We had an
awesome time with it. It's hilarious. Diego Benetta plays a

(12:32):
fantastic he's the husband of the daughter, and it's just
about kind of like a father that is struggling with
his own marriage with his wife. Glory Exact actress, another
famous It's just they have a ton of fun. You
can tell. It kind of gives me like Mama Mia vibes.
Not in the story and whatsoever, but you could tell
the actors were having fun when they're filming it, and

(12:56):
just really good acting, great story. It's funny. It's not
super deep in terms of emotional but it's it's a
fantastic just rom com uh that anyone wants to watch
with their wife. I had a good time with it.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Has Adria Ariona.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I think Adria Ariona. Yeah, there we go, Arona Arlena,
but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Isabella merceaid it has Isabella Mer said.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah, she's the sister. Yeah, you could have led with it. Yeah,
there was something that she was in.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I might have been an instant family now that I
look at her her catalog and also she was in
Madam Webb. She's great. Yeah, so so yeah Isabella mrs.
I mean that's that's a that's a nice cast. That
sounds that sounds like a damn fun date movie. It is.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
Actually it's a good point. It's a great date movie.
So I highly recommend for those who are into, you know,
watching things with their significant others.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
On the list and actually this is it's going to
the top of the list because I.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Finding good date movies is hard, so hard, especially like
because there's me and my wife have very different tastes,
very different tastes in movies, and there's a very few
that we both enjoy. This was her suggestion. I wasn't
like super excited about it, but I'm like, I know
Andy Garcia, I liked his work in Ocean's Eleven. Audrey
Aario Arhona got me like, all right, let's give it

(14:12):
a shot. And I had a great time with it.
This was the first one we watched on the way down,
and I highly recommend it. So, like I said, not
super deep. It got eighty percent Rotten Tomatoes. That's a
I think that about the score that I would give it,
which is a good score, Like it's just it's a
fun movie, good stuff.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Well, Father of the Bride.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah. So then after watching that, I remembered, oh Andy Garcia,
he's also in Oceans eleven. I hadn't seen Oceans eleven
in the longest time. It's a classic. Augustina hadn't seen
it ever, so I was like, yeah, hey, you know
what else's in and a lot It's funny because a
lot of women don't like Oceans eleven because it's very

(14:47):
male dominated in the cast.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Is there a woman there? Is?

Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's Julia Roberts, she's the main wife. Yeah, but like, yeah,
not a ton going on of the main characters. And
that's why they made an Ocean's eight with an all
female cast, I think in response to that. But she
actually had a great time with it. I just kind
of slid it off with yeah, it's George Coloney, Matt Damon,
and Brad Pitt all in their prime.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
So I kind of feel and I literally just googled
best heist movie and I'm looking at like a thing
of twelve here, and none of them are better than
Oceans eleven. I don't think the town Hell or High
water Den of Thieves. Now you see me. The Italian
Job logan lucky. See, there's a couple in there I
really like. But nothing's better than Ocean's eleven.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
In my opinion. No, but they're in different ways. The
Italian Job is really good. That's more heavy, it's kind
of gritty. I think that's Mark Wahlberg, right.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
But Steven Soderbergh does the Oceans and and I think
Steven Soderbergh has a certain flavor to his filmmaking style.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
It's just he knows how to execute a fun heist
movie exactly. And that's the thing I think make Oceans
eleven such a good movie is it's fun. It's stylish. Like, look,
let me just go through this cast. George Colony, Julia Roberts,
Matt Damon, Brad Pitt, Andy Garcia, Bernie mac Casey, Affleck,
Carl Ran There's there's a that's a huge cast, and

(16:04):
they all have so much fun with it. The dialogue
is witty as hell and it's awesome. Uh. They all
wear these like super classy clothes that just like every time,
I'm like, god, I love that outfit, and I'm I'm
not even into the outfits that much. So it's it's
just very like, uh charismatic, you know what I mean.
It's it's a fantastic movie. She loved it. She she's

(16:24):
into the heist kind of stuff. So no, I don't.
I totally agree with you. So Ocean's eleven that's another
good one. Well, so good date movie, a great date movie. Yeah,
it's just those these fun movies that you don't need
to get too emotional over that. It's like, let's have
some fun. You know, we're gonna have very different movies.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
I did not pick date movies for min That's.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Fine, that's fine. Hey you're I mean, I'm I'm on
this trip with someone else and I want to try
and watch things with her instead of just on my own.
So another one after Ocean's Eleven. We I I was like, okay,
what's another like kind of thriller high slash mystery movie.
Oh have you seen Knives Out? And Augustina had.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Not original or Knives Out glass Onion?

Speaker 1 (17:08):
I haven't seen Glass Onion. We were gonna watch that.
We never got to it, Okay, so we watched Knives Out,
the first one with Daniel Craig with I.

Speaker 2 (17:16):
Mean, another one of those ensemble casts that are all
very very good Chris Evans and uh.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Who's Who's the on the arm of Harmaus who again
another one on my lists on your lit So I
was having a great time watching all these movies, you know,
but no, it was like she likes those kind of
mystery movies. She's a big into true crime and stuff,
which I am not. Uh this is obviously obviously isn't
true crime, but it's one of those where you kind
of have to try and figure it out as it
kind of goes along. Right, She's super into that kind

(17:44):
of stuff. Uh it. I think the the twist she
didn't see coming, but she wasn't like like taken back
by it, you know, like oh whoa, I did not
see that.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
So it was it's heart It's honestly heartbreaking because you
really do Front of the Armists or just is put
into this impossible situation.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
Arda, Yeah, yeah, I uh it's and it's it's funny.
It's actually it's underratedly funny in my opinion, Like I'm
laughing almost every scene.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
Chris Evans is a hidden comedian that like they put
him as Captain America but like, ye, not another teen movie.
Going way back. This dude knows comedy.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
I think the other actors are. They do just as
good a job in terms of the comedy department. They're
the one liners in that are hilarious, where you know,
I'm not someone that normally likes the type of funny
that isn't supposed to be funny for the characters, you
know what I mean, Like The Office, that's what that's
what you call awkward funny, where the that's what the

(18:42):
character thinks, it's just normal. But everyone's like, oh wow,
the fact that you think that's normal, that's funny. But
I loved it in this instance.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Yeah, I had to look up the name of the
detective Lakeith Stanfield, Yes, the black detective. And and he's
been in a few things as specifically the show Atlanta, Yeah,
which is I think a really underrated TV show YEP.
And his humor in that movie. I think we're talking
about one liners and just the levity of the that
the movie brings. It's a very serious they're investigating the
very very important death. But his comedy chops in that

(19:14):
has been playing off of everybody else. Yeah, Michael Shannon
as well. Yeah, it just that's a hell of a movie.
So you mean really really went for the great date
night movie flights seriously?

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, and like like I said, it's it's gonna happen
when you are with your significant other the entire time
and you're trying to h get the make the most
out of time and do something you both like. Okay,
and then the last movie that we saw, okay, so
knives Out highly recommend. I haven't seen Glass any don't
want to know your thoughts on if it great meets
up to that knives outstandard.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
The way I've said it is, knives Out for me
is probably right around like an eighty nine out of
one hundred oka and Glass Onion for me is probably
around like an eighty seven. Okay, it doesn't it doesn't
leave up to it, but damn it is. And I
think the comedy is just slightly even better.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Oh really, yeah, it's it's it's maybe the stories not
up to par, but the comedy's better. Sort of think
it's about what I would say, all right, all right,
I'm interested. We should check it out. Almost tirely different
cast if I remember correctly, right, yes.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Except for Daniel Craig because Ben will Blanc and there's
another one I believe coming out this year next night,
because the movie has been cast, I think, and it's
a Wake Up dead Man. Is it taking place in Asia?
I want to say, I know the next season of
The White Lotus is taking place there, but Wake Up

(20:31):
dead Man is the next Knives Out and it's coming
to Netflix globally in twenty twenty five. So what we
have in terms of that? But Ben wa blanc is
back because all of these are like Knives Out missed right,
So it includes Daniel Craig, Josh O'Connor, Glenn Close, Josh Brolin,
me Lacunis, Jeremy Renner, Kerrie Washington, Andrew Scott. Wow.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
What a cast. Yeah, they're like, they do a good job.
Run and I will never forgive Ryan Johnson for screwing
up Star Wars, but he does a good job with
this type of movie. So uh. And Michael Shannon's awesome. Uh,
He's his one liners are fantastic. Tony Collette, Jamie Lee, Curtis,
Don Johnson. There, It's it's a good cast for sure.

(21:16):
And then our last movie once again, another date movie,
Crazy Stupid Love. Have you seen it? Have not seen?

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Is that? What is that?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Steve Carell, Ryan Carrel, Ryan Gosling, Yes, with Emma Stone.
I this one good twist. That's a really good twist
that movie Big Time. Yes, another like not super heavy,
it's fun, Like it's about Steve Carrel kind of plays
this character really really well. He did the same thing
forty old Virgin. Kind of an older guy who got

(21:47):
married very young to his high school sweetheart and his
wife now wants to divorce him. So he's like kind
of heartbroken. He's never like dated anyone else, he's never
sucked with anyone else. Uh So he classic Michael Scott exactly,
and like it's there's just so many funny moments with
h And he meets a guy at the bar that

(22:09):
is obviously just a womanizer ladies man who knows how
to pick up girls at bars. He's very attractive. It's
Ryan Gossling obviously, and and he teaches him kind of
how to be single and especially at his age. And
there's so many great moments about that. I won't give
away the twist at all, but it's it's just a
fun movie. And I think the idea that the concept is,

(22:32):
like there's the reason why it's called crazy stupid love
is because there's someone who loves someone else and and
it's like a trail, right, one person loves this person,
and then this person loves someone else, and then that
other person loves someone else, and you could tell all
what they're doing for each other to like, uh.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Said that in a good way, by the way, yeah,
thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
You could tell all they're doing to show the other
person that they love that they should be with them.
It's just a fantastic movie. And it's all different types
of relationships to you get. Like obviously the main one
is the main character, and then his wife that wants
to leave him, he still loves her, he wants her back, yeada, YadA, YadA.
And then there's but his son also is what he's
like thirteen. He loves his babysitter who's like sixteen, and

(23:16):
it's the total opposite end of the spectrum. He's just
like just learning what you know, sexual attraction is and
that that kind of stuff. So it's a great movie,
super fun, it's hilarious. I talk about one liners. I
think Ryan Gosling that's one of his best movies.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
Another just like Chris Evans, like you know you wouldn't think, Yes,
as funny as he is, but he's just such a
comedic guy in Barbie. He was tremendous with comedy.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I never saw Barbie, so I can't judge on
that one, but almost every movie that he's in.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
I love right date night movies. I mean, Barbie is
one of the ultimate date night movies.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Yes. See, Augustina watched it and she said she didn't
like it that much, Like she watched it on her
own and she says like, yeah, it's not that great.
So I'm like, all right, I don't need to watch
out then, So that's we both did the Barbie Oppenheimer,
the Barbenheimer. I watched Oppenheimer. She watched Barbie, and I
love you so you did.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
You did it as a couple. See, we need oppenheimergether noon,
and then we went to dinner and then did Barbie
after dinner. This is one day.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
This is after they came on stream. I went to
Oppenheimer in the movie, so I had seen it already,
and then I we did the whole Barbie Oppenheimer. Watched
them separate and then like told each other about it,
and I convinced her to watch up Inheimer and she
actually liked it.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
I mean, it's just it's freaking great.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Fantastic movie. We already did our christpher Nolan movies.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
You really, it's been four date night movies, just one
after the other, like fun and the things that you
if you're a couple, then you should absolutely sit down
on the couch and watch because it's not Frankly, let's
just be honest here, it's not gonna kill the mood.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Well and like, I'm not someone who likes these types
of movies very much, like I'm it's hard for me
to get into the rom comms. There's a few that
I think are very good, uh, And like, let's be honest,
the woman like it. The woman like it. So it's
it's stuff that I know Augustine is gonna like to watch,
so I'll watch it with her, and I like spending
time with her and sharing things that I love with her.

(25:02):
But it's like these are all I think, pretty out
of the box sort of date movies, like the ones
that you wouldn't think, oh, like Hitman's like obvious date
movie very much, very much like it's about a couple, like,
but there's other parts of it that of these other
movies that I think are really good with with someone else.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
You mentioned a sorry any more movies? Sorry?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Continue, that's it for movies. If you want to mention
anything from.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Movies, let's go quickly through my movies and then we'll
because you go into our TV hit man Glenn Powell.
We decided the one date movie we did is this
one on Netflix called Set it Up with Glen Powell.
It's it's fine. I mean, I don't think it's it's
an essential watcher anything. When did it come out back
in twenty eighteen? So it's kind of well, it's a

(25:48):
little bit Glenn Powell's start Zoid Deutsch plays opposite.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Of him as kind of there his love interest. It's
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's fine, Like I would take every one of your
four date time movies over this one. But it's sort
of like, let's see everything Glenn Powell is in, because
Glenn Powell is the hottest thing on earth right now.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Of course, what do you think I hated it? You
hated it? Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (26:15):
Script feels like it was written by a dumb thirteen
year old. I don't know who wrote it. I mean, sure, listen,
the screenwriter the screenwriter knew what the screenwriter was doing,
saying I'm going to have Sidney Sweeny stripped down and
this time and have her take off her clothes here
and then more closed there and then like the screen

(26:36):
I knew what the screen but the actual script writers,
y'all need to go to school. Okay, Like, go back
to class and learn how to unless you just purely
were just like, we don't care.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
You don't care what the writing is.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
We're casting the two hottest people in Hollywood basically, yes,
And like, I mean, let's listen, it was fun to
look at it. It was nails on a freaking chalkboard.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
To listen to. Yeah, okay, so set it up. Fine.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It just I mean, Glenn Powell, I think I think
that the biggest takeaway from that movie and from pretty
much just I mean even watching Freakin' Top Gun Maverick, Yeah,
is that doesn't matter if it's male female, everybody he's
playing opposite of just he oozes chemistry with That's a
good point.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
I didn't think about that. You know, he does the
same thing in hit Man as well, Like it's just
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:24):
He's able to build chemistry with romantic chemistry, friend chemistry,
rival chemistry. He just has on screen chemistry with every
single person and in this set it up too with Zoidutch.
I mean, it's just it's he's the thing that keeps
this movie watchable. And he's the thing that I think

(27:45):
makes hit Man such a I mean, Li's seny. It's
a fun date night movie, but it's his job. And
it's his performance in hit Man that makes hit Man
such a fun movie. And you mean, even top Gun Maverick,
like he's a an essential character, especially at the end,
and the way he comes off and the way he
plays himself, in the way he plays an antagonist, but

(28:06):
not really like Glenn Powell is the hot thing right
now in Hollywood, but it's for a damn good reason.
The dude can act, and the dude builds this around
his cast.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, it's it kind of reminds me of he oohz
is cool is kind of what it like. I want
to be him when I watch him in a movie. George,
he brought up Oceans eleven. Okay, George, Now that's exactly
what I was going to go to. So I watched
Ocean's eleven and that's exactly what I think of a
George colony. Every time I see him in a scene,
I'm like, God, that guy's cool. Yeah, Like I want
to be him. He dresses up nice, his smooth talking

(28:38):
with everybody. The next example of that another actor of
the movies that I watched, Ryan Gosling, same thing. Oohs
is cool for me. I think he's Gostling hasn't had
it until I think recently. I think he's had it
for a while, like that Crazy Stupid Love came out
in twenty eleven. I was gonna say, but it's the
last decade, like Ryan, how old is Yeah? How old
is Ryan Gosling?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
He's only had it for the last decade five thirty six,
I bet like Gosling, Ryan Gosling is right now forty
four years old.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
See, I only think he's really had that for the
last if you look at it, if you look at.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
These movies like no, yeah, I think I think That's
what I'm saying. It goes in like, uh so for
like the early two thousands, mid two thousands were looking
at George Clooney. Uh then like twenty ten's it's like
the Ryan Gosling era, and now we're in the twenty twenties.
It's Glenn Palell's era.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It's Glenn Palell's era. Yeah, yeah, so I think I
think I think officially Ryan Gosling has handed it off,
because like, yeah, that's what I mean. So Gosling was
in this movie called The Fall Guy with Emily Blunt
last year. Yeah it was fine, but I feel like
that was different. That was a moment where I noticed
Ryan Gosling's fallen off a little bit, you think, so
in that movie specifically, I just feel like it wasn't
the same Ryan Gosling.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Yeah, it was. Gonna say, it's just a different character.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, but he also just I mean in all of
the movies he's able to just bring it, and it
didn't feel like he brought it in Fall Guy. And
it kind of just felt like, oh, are you on
the other side of this now, Like are you did
you become so big and did you just have your
all your chemistry? Who just ooze out for a decade

(30:08):
that you don't have it anymore? Because I didn't feel
it in Fall Guy.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, so I never saw a fall Guy. But like
a lot of me thinks, like, oh, how much of
that is the script? And how much he was asked
to do versus like in other movies. He's kind of
meant to be the guy. And I feel like, maybe
I'm wrong, but Fall Guy is kind of more of
an Emily Blunt movie than it is a Ryan Gossling movie.

Speaker 2 (30:26):
No, it's a true fifty to fifty split even I'll
even say fifty five to forty five Gosspling. He does,
he does have the main role in that, but still
it just he doesn't come with as much oomph as
he came with. And you know, as I look through,
it's Barbie, It's first Man. It's a Blade Runner twenty
forty nine, La Big Short Drive, the nice guys. Have

(30:46):
you seen the nice guys? Gosh, that's one of my
crow and never just again oozing chemistry between cool yeah, exactly,
and the way they played off each other. Glenn Powell,
this is Glenn Powell's era. Yeah, I totally agree. And
where the last decade may have been Ryan Gosling, this
is it's it's it's Glenn Powell to the Moon right now.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
Two thousands, it was George Cliney, twenty ten's it was
Ryan Gosling. Now it's Glenn Pale.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
It feels about right now. Shockingly, we're gonna move away
from the date night movies. Great, it's getting crazy. So
the two movies that I saw that certainly were not
date night movies. Okay, let's start with the Golden Globe
winner for Animation for Emotion, Picture correct Flow. It is
the story of a black cat, and it all takes

(31:30):
place in the course of probably about three days. The
first off, the animation style is inspired. It's unlike any
other animation style I've seen, and it takes a minute
to get used to. But it's very good. And that'll
lead me into another conversation about animation, because I've become
much more open to animation in the last month or so.

(31:50):
But the thing with this movie is that it follows
this cat in the three days after a natural disaster,
where it seems very clearly the icebergs have melted and
the oceans are rising, and the oceans are rising at
a almost unreal pace. But it creates these really scary

(32:11):
situations for a black cat, and we have a black cat,
so thus generates the intense emotion because the black cats
put into dangerous, nearly going to dye situations. Let me
say this, right, away. The cat does not die. Wow,
which is very helpful to know going into that movie,
especially for some Yeah, I definitely had to look that

(32:31):
up and confirm it on three different places.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's great.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
But not only is the cat in these precarious situations
that it almost dies, but so is a golden retriever,
a I want to say, a beaver, and a couple
other animals that they meet along the way, and all
of these animals are put into these dangerous situations built
through this natural disaster. There is no dialogue through the

(32:55):
entire movies, no, and the animals actually act like an
animals for the most part. They act with the moments
of stupidity where I said to myself, that's actually what
that animal would do, because an animal does not have
the brain to know not to do that. And it's
quite brilliant the way they do it, and they make
you say, yeah, that's actually what a cat would do,

(33:17):
or that's actually what a golden retriever would do, because
a golden retriever doesn't think. It just jumps and it's
a very very I'm not even gonna say it's not
heartbreaking and it's not heartwarming, it's just it keeps you
on the edge of your seat because you're so invested
in all of these animals that they meet along the way,

(33:37):
and the main character flow itself and it is just
a heart stopping movie. That's the way I'll say it's
stop because it's just every single second you're trying to say,
be okay, be okay, be okay, like because you also say, like,
if my animal was ever in this situation, I would
want my animal to be okay. And I mean it's
not a date night movie because it just it makes

(33:59):
you feel a lot of things, especially at the end,
and you just anybody who wants to see I highly
recommend it. You can get it for six bucks on
Fandango streaming right now, super duper cheap, and it's worth
a watch. But don't watch it if you're trying to
keep a mood up and you have pets, because it
is it's going to make you emotional in a lot

(34:21):
of different ways.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
But are you one of those people that gets more
upset when animals die than when humans die? And I
am as well.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, I mean, it's the never ending story. When our
attacks the horse dies in the mud, it's Marley and Me.
It's The Art of Racing in the Rain, which I
think I'm actually gonna go watch tonight or tomorrow because
it's funny. We had this conversation last night. We're like,
what should we watch this weekend because we're not gonna
be watching date night movies this weekend. And we're like, well,

(34:52):
you mentioned a couple weeks ago, you know you have
a movie for a good cry. Yeah, so I'm like, yeah,
Art of Racing in the Rain, and it's is like
the the Animal Death movies, like they are meant for
times where you're like, yeah, I'm ready to like have
a good ball session. So anyway, so Flow, I don't
know if it'll make you cry, but it is a

(35:13):
supremely emotional movie and it's the animation style is really
freaking cool. So I would recommend it. And again, it's
available to stream for cheap off anywhere. It's amazing film.
The other one that's also very much not a date
night film. It's the opposite of a date night film.
You want to watch it, you know, alone or just

(35:36):
you know, listen. It's just it's called a Real Pain
and it has been nominated for a lot of things.
It is written, directed, and pretty much his baby's Jesse Eisenberg,
who Jesse Eisenberg was a course played Mark Zuckerberg in
Social Network, and Jesse Eisenberg built this movie for him

(35:59):
and this his co star, which is Kieran Culkin Kiaren
Coulkin of course Roman in Succession and Kieran Colkin has
been up for a lot of awards and deservedly so.
It's basically the story of these two cousins who have
fallen apart, and one cousin, Kieran Coulkin's character, as we
come to learn very early in the movie this isn't

(36:20):
a spoiler, you learn it very early, he recently tried
to kill himself. And it's this cousin who sees, okay,
you know, my cousin's who's used to be like a
brother to me. He's going through this really tough time.
Let's go on a tour of Poland, I believe, yeah,
Poland Poland together, and let's go see where the concentration

(36:45):
camps were and go visit our grandmother's home back in Poland.
And it's this story is called The Real Pain because
it very much deals with two real pains, the real
pain that they both feel as Jewish people, seeing the
history and seeing the concentration camps and seeing everything over

(37:06):
in Poland. But it also is about the pain of
Kieran Culkin's character, who very clearly is trying to just
and just try to get through life. And it's it's
a very very hard film. It's heartbreaking. It's very very

(37:30):
well crafted by Jesse Eisenberg with what happens with each character. Uh,
the script is tight as hell, and it just keeps
you if you feels very very real. So just the
way and the titling just really I love when movies
are so titled so so eloquently in real pain referring
to multiple elements and and and Jesse Eisman's character it

(37:52):
is his cousin becomes a real pain for him. But
then Kieren Culkin's character, the pain he feels is very
very real because the grandmother whose house they're visiting, she
just had passed away. So there's all these layers of
all this real pain that they're all dealing with, and
it's just it's an exceptional movie. But again, it is

(38:13):
so deep and so dark and so emotional that you
can't really watch it with with anything but your full
attention and a full heart and it's gonna make you
feel a hell of a lot.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, that's I'm kind of looking it describes it a
very similar way that you do a heavy movie. I
don't know, like those kind of movies are for me.
I have to really be in a certain moody and
usually it's I honestly, it's usually when I'm on my
own and I'm like, all right, I want to learn
about something but also kind of feel something a little

(38:46):
bit more.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I recommend this be this. This is a movie especially
like I don't know, it's gonna connect with some people
more than others for sure. Yeah, but but alone might
be the way to go because I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
That way you can process your own emotions a little
bit without having to like think about someone else while
you're at it. Yeah, I mean it looks fantastic. I'm
a big Jesse Eisenberg fan, probably will be one. Like
I said, I have to be in the kind of
exact mood for but if I'm feeling like it, then
I definitely check it out because it looks really good.

Speaker 2 (39:16):
This is not a plane movie.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
No, This and Flow.

Speaker 2 (39:19):
Neither of those are Plaine movies.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Okay, that's a good point. Do you do you like
your Plaine movies to be just kind of like oh fun,
you know, like pass the time and like yeah, okay,
a good well what's your best playing movie?

Speaker 2 (39:30):
The oh what's the best?

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Like best? It doesn't even have to be the best one.
It's just like good example of so over the holidays when.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
We flew and went on vacation, the movie that I
watched that I thought was see two examples. You and
Chuck told me to watch Klaus. That's not a damn
plane movie.

Speaker 1 (39:48):
I love it. Not a plane movie.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
Yeah, because that movie I was like crying on a
plane and I'm like, son of a bitch, why am
I watching this in front of it? But then that's
that's terrible play movie. But then we watched Civil War,
which is a dumb I'm not gonna watch this unless
I'm on a plane, like.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Captain America Civil War. Civil War?

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yes, yes, exactly. The movie Civil War with Kirston Dunsley
came out last year. So that's I think a good
plane movie. A good plane movie for me because it's
a long flight and you wouldn't watch it otherwise, as
Killers of the Flower Moon yep, if you want to
kill four hours put that on.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
It's like, Lord of the Ring is perfect for me.

Speaker 2 (40:22):
I want to pay attention deeply to the Lord of
the Ring. Yeah, like, I'm sorry, Killers the Flower Moon
is not something that I'm going to deeply pay attention to.
Martin Scorsese. You lost my entire respect when you came
on at the very end of the movie and did
a cameo with like a minute to go in the
film and just blew the whole thing up and made
it about you, like the get the heck off my TV.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Good thing we are.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
Podcast, But come on, get off my screen. I don't
need to see the director of the film. You're ruining
the movie.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
I'm with you, I think. And this kind of leads
in I actually forgot one of the movies that I watched.
This leads into I think, a perfect Plane movie because
I watched it on the plane. Transformers one great example.
It's a great example, just so much fun. Well the
Transformers movies. Yeah, well, and I admittedly I'm not a
huge Transformers fan. Like it's fine. I think a lot

(41:17):
of the words that they use are kind of weird,
like Megatron, also Tron, Like it's it's so like over the.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
Top Megan Fox.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Oh yeah, I mean yeah, that's that's a great element
to that movie.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
For sure makes it watch.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
I didn't love those, like the big CGI ones, you
know what I mean. But but this one, Transformers one.
I think it's actually perfect for an audience like me
that like, okay, I would be open to getting into it.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
It's an origin story, so it's it's a perfect place
to start it. So why it's called Transformers one? Uh
it's oh sorry, oh Jesus sorry, Okay.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
When you said Transformers one, the way I took this
was to mean Transformers one, as in the first one
nine that kind of restarted the whole thing. No, I'm
talking to the new one animated new Transformers one. Yes
O one e yes, oh n e for sure learned
how to spell Jackson spells No, it's okay.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
Oh yeah. So how was this?

Speaker 2 (42:20):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (42:22):
I'm trying to find the best way to describe how
I feel about it. I went into it hearing that
a lot of people liked it. Not a huge Transformers fan,
so I kind of two sides going in. I'm like,
I we'll see how this is. You know, I absolutely
loved it. Really, I think it was just exactly what
you were describing about a plane movie. It's just it's fun,

(42:45):
it's an origin story, it's action packed. I love the
animation style, and that's another thing to mention as we
transition into more animated stuff here. It's animated, and normally
Transformers movies, as you mentioned with the Megan Fox era,
would be uh, live action with a bunch of CGI,
and they did a good job with the CGI and
the special effects it. I think that's one of the

(43:06):
things they are known for. But this one is just awesome,
and I think it's it's a little more focused on character. Uh,
it's about you know, the difference. Oh my god, wait,
what did you know that Chris Hamsworth was the main guy?

Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, I'm looking at idea.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
I had absolutely no idea. Yeah it no, it's awesome.
I I again, I do not know a bunch about
the Transformer's lore. So this was a perfect kind of
introductory for me to like, oh, this is how they
all formed and it's so much fun. Bumblebee the character,
I okay, no, wonder, it's holy he's hilarious. It's Keith

(43:46):
and Michael Key. Okay, right, never mind that just as
well yeah, it's uh, it's it's really good. I the
humor is top notch. I was multiple times laughing out
loud loudly on the airplane, like very loudly, and I
was like kind of aware. I was like, shoot, like

(44:06):
everyone's gonna start looking at me. But there are moments
where that are just hilarious. Okay, So I think, and
what's funny.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
I think this is a perfect example of an airplane
movie because I wouldn't watch this at home. I wouldn't, like,
I'm not the biggest animation guy even now, but still
it's sort of is like, you know, it's it's one
of those where I enjoyed the Transformers movies enough where
I would watch this. They clearly put together an insane
cast for this. I mean Steve Buscemi, Lawrence Fishburne, Scarlett

(44:35):
Johansson's in there as well, So they've clearly invested a
lot into this movie.

Speaker 1 (44:40):
Ye, and it probably deserves to watch at some point,
But you know, when do you do it? When?

Speaker 2 (44:45):
When it's when you have an hour and forty four
minutes as this run time.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Is so yeah, and it's not like incredibly emotional or
anything like that. There's not like this like, oh my god, incredible,
like just feeling not. I mean, it's just it's just
a fun movie to watch. It's a super fun movie
to watch, and I think that's a good thing. There
needs to be more movies like this. I think so
many filmmakers nowadays try and go over the top with
like doing the the most unexpected thing, or like trying

(45:11):
to be something more than they're not. This just leaned
into being a Transformers movie, and I absolutely loved it.

Speaker 2 (45:17):
All right, Well that's that's. You know, I'm flying to
Palm Springs in two weeks from today, so that's that
seemed absolutely right in line absolutely with what that should be. Okay,
all right, Transformers one another. I mean, airplane movies is
at some point probably worth a worth a you know,
the best airplane movies you've seen is worth like a
ranking or draft or something like that. There's something there
for sure. But that's a very very good example in one.

(45:40):
I'll have and report back. But I am encouraged to
know you liked it, and if you didn't like it,
I probably wouldn't put it on my airplane list. But
since you did, I think I'll watch it in a
couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (45:50):
Sweet, I'm gonna hear what you think about it, So
let me.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
Know while we're on the animated stuff. Any more movies
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (45:57):
That's it for me.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
Then let's jump into Arcane. All right, Arcane season one,
and they just finished season two on Netflix. We are
both through season one. We have both not started season
two yet, correct, So do me a favor. I in
preparation for this, I actually didn't watch rewatch it.

Speaker 1 (46:15):
I have seen it. I watched it as soon as
it came out in twenty twenty one. Give me a
season one recap with spoilers.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
So with spoilers, here we go. We start probably about
ten fifteen years in the past, and it's these two
sisters who have a friend group with two other young
young boys. It's like a group, yeah, and they very
clearly are in this under city. There's a kind of
an above ground city which is very nice and very wealthy,

(46:43):
and then there's a bridge that divides to kind of
the under city. And this under city is very poor.
There's lots of crime happening, and these four kids basically
go and steal things. And in this one crime that
they pull off at the very start of the show.
They end up stealing a very dangerous new piece of
technology that a young scientist in the above world, in

(47:06):
the wealthy world, is developing. And this one piece of
technology that they steal leads to a bunch of Shenanigans.
What happens is there basically father figure in the under
city eventually gets killed in by another under City evander,
who's an amazing character that's killed by a under city criminal.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
There are cops who are very much on the payroll
of the criminals, you know, just to turn the blind
eye to everything happening in the under city. And as
these two worlds, as the under city kind of grows
and you know, takes this technology that was stolen and
builds it up into you know, we can you know,
have more power, the above city also takes the technology

(47:52):
which keeps getting developed above. Uh. And that with the
young the young scientist who ends up rising up and
kind of taking his creation and then earning himself even
a political seat. Ye earns himself this great you know
spot on the counter, I call it. Uh. With this technology,
the above city has also expanded their power. So both

(48:14):
under City and Above are both expanding their power, expanding
the technology becoming a lot more dangerous, and it hits
an inflection point when then the two sides kind of
eventually merge and there becomes very very big conflicts within
each two sides, and you have people who go from
one side to the other and the other side to
you know, go up to down, down to up and

(48:36):
sort of see what is happening and how the power
has dynamics have shifted in each side, and the character
development of a lot of different about a dozen characters
on either side of the bridge. You follow their lives
and you follow their growth, and you know their pain
and what they're going through and what they're seeing on

(48:58):
their side and on the other side, how the other
side is impacting their life, and it is a very
interesting look into you know, kind of I would say,
very much just kind of class, war and crime. And
you know, it's very hard to fully encapsulate just how

(49:18):
good the character development is from a lot of different angles,
from a lot of different positions, and across the nine
to forty minute episodes or so, I think they do
an outstanding job of making you very invested in these
two sisters. With the very big twist of about four
episodes in when their father figure gets killed, they do

(49:41):
about a ten to fifteen year time jump, and the
time jump comes out of nowhere and it really accelerates
the story in a great way. And listen again, I
have not always been the biggest animation person, and the
animation took me a minute to get into. It took
me probably an episode and a half. But once I
got into it, with the massive cliffhangers from episode to episode,

(50:05):
and really, I mean, I'm I come from the lost
fandom of every episode. Give me a cliffhanger every single episode.
Coming back, this had it. It ends on the biggest
potential boom you could. I can't wait to start season two.
Loved season one and you know what you said it
and my therapist also said you have to watch this,

(50:27):
and my god, I'm happy I did because it's so easy.
Nine episodes forty five minutes each. That season one was
damn good.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah, I think underrated as the voice acting as well.
Hailey Steinfeld is vi Ela Prenell's jinks. There's more as well,
but those are kind of the two main characters. I
am fascinated by their dichotomy of relationships between each other
because they're sisters, and like you mentioned the twist in

(50:55):
the time jump.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
I didn't give like in depth spoils you, but I'll
just I'll.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Just I'll just say like they start close and they're
not close anymore.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Well, and they're not close because one of them clearly
has a mental fighting who the hell am I?

Speaker 1 (51:11):
Yeah? Well, and the older one doesn't really help her
in that way. She kind of screws up and she
feels terrible about it. It's it's the other thing is
like it's a very larger than life story and like
it's hard to like kind of relate to in a
grounded way. But the characters, like that is the twist

(51:35):
part when Vi and Powder kind of go their separate ways.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Those are the two sisters, by the way, and Powder,
Powder and Jinks are the same person. But Jins and
Powder don't know to the end of the series if
the person is or not in a series, but at
a certain points towards the end of the series, they
don't know am I Powder this you know cute little
girl who instilled his sister? Or am I Jings this
badass criminal? And and then of vas the other one

(52:01):
and and their sister dynamic is just so good.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
And it's realistic like it's realistic man like, especially from
a uh kind of viewing from maybe it's someone with
without a parent parental figure. They had one in Vander
and then when he dies that kind of sets up
the domino effect of what happens after that they need
that parental figure, So it's realistic to see that they

(52:25):
would react the ways that they do. I'm not gonna
get super in depth, but I just I love you
mentioned the character development. It's so so, so good.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
And there's moments too. There's moments that make your gi
at the floor where you know there's a character named
Jacey and Jace is is voiced. I don't have the
name up right next to me right now, but he's
voiced by somebody who's also in the show, Lucifer, who
I really enjoy and I think it's really good voice
acting by him. But there's a moment where he has
to backstab his mentor and you know, you very clearly

(52:56):
hear and see the pain there you go, and and
very the voice acting of the pain involved with backstabbing
the person who basically allowed you to get to the
position you are. There's a lot involved there, and uh,
the season one ending, which is basically just a rocket
going through the window. You too, maybe kill everybody. Yeah,

(53:19):
I mean I want to start season two right now. Yeah,
But like it's sort of a thing where there's the
there's so many elements that make this show really quite something,
and I'm a little bit worried that season two is
knocking way up to season one.

Speaker 1 (53:35):
There's a reason why I hadn't started season two first,
because I really have to. It took a while, it
was like three years in between, so I kind of
lost not lost interest, but just kind of forgot about it.
And then season two comes out. I'm like, oh, I
got I got to restart that. And then I we
started the podcast and I was watching other things that
you guys suggested, and all that other stuff comes up.

(53:56):
We all know how watching TV can be more times,
but I now that you're kind of reminding me of
it all. I forgot how much I love this show
and I first watched it.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
It's really good.

Speaker 1 (54:06):
It's really, really, really good.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
The animation style. The only thing I could compare it
to would be a Spider Man across the Spider Verse,
and that those those Spider Verse, because because it's the
animation style is a little bit like that but has
its own flavor.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yes, and that's a good thing. That's a great thing.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Not sure if you remember this scene, but there's a
scene where there's a fight on the bridge between Jinks
Slash Powder and not VI. It's this guy named little Man.
It's this you know, little boy who is part of
the you know, the past, and then he's grown up
into kind of I wouldn't say a crime boss, but
he's certainly grown up to be able to kind of
run his own enterprise. And they have this scene, this

(54:46):
fight scene on the bridge where they take a moment
before the actual fight and they show them basically fighting
as kids. Yeah, and then they show them a full,
like thirty second fight as kids, and then they rewind
time and then show you the actual fight between the
grown up kids. And it's this really spectacular look of

(55:09):
how these two characters used to be so very close
and intertwined with each other and laugh and have fun
with each other and could get in these play fights.
But then, oh no, they're about to kill each other.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh yeah, and I'm watching it now, you're so right this.
I love animated movies that they know they're not using
an actual camera, but you can tell, like a lot
of the movements that they use and how they frame
a scene is like a camera's actually there. And that's
a good thing. Like usually you would think, oh, if
you're like fully animating movie, you don't have to act
as if you're using a camera. Sometimes that's what works

(55:44):
really really well. It pulls you into the scene a
little bit, and that's exactly what's going on here. It's wow,
it's so good. It's a great scene. It's a great show.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Again. I'm just I'm worried about season two because the
season one was so good yea, And it brought my,
i think, really interest in animation up so much. Like
I would say to anybody who's saying, I'm not sure
I'm really into animation, this is a good show to
bring you into animation.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
Because the story is just so flipping good.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I think it would be successful in almost any like medium,
but I think the animation just elevates it in every
single way possible. Yea. Like, especially watching this scene, I totally.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Forgot about this arcane season one on Netflix. We're about
to start season two and we'll certainly talk about it
as as the shows go on Skeleton Crew. Okay, let's
get into Skeleton Crew, because that has ended what might
be its only season is I think first the first
question is this, Yeah, because we can get into how

(56:44):
we like the series. But the first question is this,
would you like a season two? Would you watch a
season two? Probably not see. I would watch it, but
sort of like you with Arcane season two, I'd kind
of put it like off to the back burner, like
it would be the last thing I would watch when
it came out.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
I think it's weird because I almost I don't think.
I don't. First of all, I don't think there's gonna
be one. I think it's just meant to be one season,
which is good. I think that's a good thing. And
they kind of it wraps up the story and it's
just full on goonies vibes like and it's great. But
I you know, if they if they found a way
to bring it back, I feel it would be pretty

(57:24):
disingenuous because they wrapped up the story.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
They basically wrapped up the story. I think they stuck
the landing. Yeah. I think the ending with how they
did it essentially, which is just kind of it is.
It's it's very much the kids have done it and
the kids have won, and that's okay.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
It doesn't have to be this like grandiose like twist
or something like that.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Yeah, what do you think of the reveal that the
whole planet the ad At in Mystery and full spoilers
here full spoilers if you haven't got that already. What
did you think of the reveal that the whole ad
at in planet is just Ai robot Ran.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
I actually was kind of anticipating that a little bit.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Kind of felt it felt like very obvious.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
Yeah, And that's why I don't even think that's the twist.
The twist was more about the character of Jod for me,
Like I told you Order sixty six was going to
be part of this, Yeah, and he kind of alluded
to it, but he didn't like mention it, like, uh.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Well very clearly he was he was a kid. Yeah,
and when Order sixty six happened and everybody got and
all the Jedis got killed, See, he's he found his
way to somebody bad.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
Yes, I see, this is where I kind of like
the way they did it. They purposely didn't fully describe
I am this person. I was picked up by this
Jedi at this time and very vague. It's very vague
because I when I first heard it, I was like, Okay,
he was a kid after Order sixty six and this
Jedi that is like in hiding kind of running away

(58:51):
from everything because they were killing all the Jedi finds
him and tries to train him, and then they get
found by the Inquisitors probably yep, and they they made
him watch as they killed the Jedi, and that turned
him bad because he saw that that's what the galaxy is.
And he just tries to describe that to the kids.
And like, first of all, Jude Law, Jude Law, it's.

Speaker 2 (59:16):
Been you know what, it's been a minute since Jude
Law has looked like a superstar.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Jude every scene that he's in he was perfect, Oh
my god, and like in a weirdly like in a movie, sorry,
in a show that like is supposed to be pretty lighthearted,
like oh, the kids are like the main characters, and
they're like the ones kind of doing everything. They're telling
the adults what to do. It's like it's not supposed
to be this heavy emotional thing or anything like that.

(59:43):
I am like uneasy when Jude Law is like threatening
the parents, threatening the kids. You could tell like his
kind of annoyance more than anything else. He's just like, oh,
can we get this done with already?

Speaker 2 (59:54):
Well, It's funny thing is because he has his own line.
He very clearly has his own coat. Yeah, me the pirate.
He has his own code, and his code does not
include killing anybody innocent.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
He said multiple times, I don't want to hurt anyone,
and and like even.

Speaker 2 (01:00:07):
As as I forget what her name is, but she
falls from the sky and the ship and he like
KB is about to die. He's just kind of you
see the emotion of like I didn't want this to happen.
Look what you've done, Like this didn't need to happen.
He comes off very much remember the movie Hook with
Robin Williams. He comes off like Dustin Hoffman's Hook character

(01:00:28):
very clearly. I don't want to hurt anybody. I'm just
here to be this kind of evil character who just
at the end of the day, I want money, a
very very superficial thing. I want money. I want riches, right,
And it's okay to have a very basic motivation of
an antagonist.

Speaker 1 (01:00:46):
I want to be rich. Yeah, what's I mean?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
Like, great, that's you don't I don't want to take
over the world. I don't want to kill anybody. I
just want this flipping money.

Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Yeah. And I think one of the reasons why it works,
and I think most people think that Skeleton Crew works,
it's because they don't try to be anything more than that.
It's just like it's a fun adventure. They don't try
and like make a big reveal of that he's some
character that we already know they try to fit it
into the universe. No, it's just like, he's just this
guy who, like you said, very basic motivations. They don't

(01:01:16):
try and throw a big twist at you on the end.
They don't try and like have a big reveal on
the end. It's just like, no, it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
The AI planet. I feel like was supposed to be
a big reveal, but that never.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
No, it didn't hit. It didn't hit. But I don't
think that's a bad thing. Whatever, you don't need it. Like,
it's about the characters. I love the kid acting in it.
It's fantastic. I think it was an interesting enough story
that it grabs me and like makes me wanna kind
of learn more about the world, and like the at
and itself more exactly. So I now that you say that,

(01:01:47):
I kind of wonder what happens next now that the
barrier's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
Put it into the Mandalorian movie. Yeah, yeah, that's how
you fit it in here, because isn't isn't the whole thing?
Aren't they supposed to, you know, just combine everything he
shows Mandalorian Grogu. Yeah, I think they are because if
you can fit at Aten and maybe you know, the
New Republic credits angle into the stories somehow, maybe that's

(01:02:12):
the whole thing of like Mandalorian Grogu have to go
and you know, make sure that ad Aton is safe
or something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
I don't know, and then.

Speaker 2 (01:02:20):
Grogu is suddenly the overseer of ad Aten, and you know,
the Mandalorian and Grogu movie ends with Grogu being the
thing that protects ad At.

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
And I don't know, but I think one of the
reasons why it works is because they don't try and
connect it to everything. It's just like it's its own story.
If it makes sense to maybe throw something in there,
it does, but they don't have to do that. I'm
not saying that that would be a bad thing, but
I just I like that the they did it the
way they did, and like not trying to connect it
to the rest of the universe. And I'm someone who
likes when things are connected and you see a show

(01:02:52):
that connects to a different show that you saw that
connects to a movie. Yeah, but I sometimes I think
they do it too much, especially in Star Wars. This
was just a fun type exactly, and I think that's
one of the reasons why it works out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
So so here's what I have written down in my
notes is calling it and let me see if you
buy or sell this. I think that Skeleton Crew is
the best Domino's pizza you've ever had. It's not going
to be your cuisine. You're fantastic, you know, you spend
thirty dollars on a pizza and you're gonna get an
amazing tasting pizza. It's not gonna be your ten out

(01:03:25):
of ten. But Domino's peacha will range between like three
out of ten and seven out of ten, maybe seven
point five if it's just excellent. And I just feel
like Skeleton Crew. It never turns into your Empire, it
never turns into your and or, but it just it
consistently is damn good, and it's it just the way
I feel about it is it's the best Domino's pizza

(01:03:46):
I've ever had.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
That's a I think that's a pretty good example. And
I would even say I like Dominoes a lot. Actually,
I would say, like they're as consistent as it can be.
It's usually between a five and a six, like that's
it's but.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Then occasionally you get the seven point five and like
and like yes, and this this series was the occasional yes.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Yeah, yeah, And I'm with you on that. I never
get taken out of it. I think there there's fun
moments there. There's there's funny moments too. In the last
scene where uh, the dad of whim is like, I'm
a level four supervisor, you bet you, I can go
let in that lets you in that door, And it's
just that's a funny, funny, funny reveal. Yeah, No, I'm

(01:04:28):
with you. I think that's a good description of it.
It's a Domino's pizza, especially Dominance, especially coming off the
heels of the previous show. I don't even remember the
name of it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Acolyte, Acolyte. I mean that that is, that's not even
Domino's pizza. That's the that's put on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
Yeah, so like and that's the example of when they
do try and do too much, try and connect it
in these all these weird ways, and it just doesn't work,
and it kind of ruins the other things that you're
trying to connect it to. Because that's now part of canon.
This is just its own story. They don't try and
do too much with it. And it's great. It is great.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Indeed, last show I have in my list that I
quickly do is Silo. I don't think you're watching Silo.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
I have not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
Apple Plus and Apple TV. They just finished their second season,
Holy Mother of Mercy. The show moved from number twenty
five on my all time list to number sixteen and
it went that high up just in the last about
two to two and a half episodes.

Speaker 1 (01:05:24):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
They we talked about sticking landings. They just stuck it
to the nth degree. It's how I posted this on
Reddit and people hated it so much that got taken down.

Speaker 1 (01:05:41):
Wow, that's a great way to premise it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
So and I posted this on our slash Lost because
I love Lost. It's my number one show. But I
said that Silo is the most lost like show I've
seen since Lost, A lot of people Lost fans will say, oh,
it's Severn inserts this, ort's that from But it's this
for the reason that cliffhangers are very prevalent. But also

(01:06:06):
suddenly every single question that gets answered towards this back
half of season two leads to about ten more questions,
and they do that extremely well at the very very
end of the series season where you're just Okay, great,
we have that answer, but oh my god, all of
these doors are now open. And I think that Silo

(01:06:29):
and it's losting in the sense of like it's very
much in the public eye. I mean like there were
there were like not Silo actors, but Silo dressed characters
in the stands at NBA games towards the end of
season two, just to build hype. I mean, this is
very much sort of like we're making this, Apple says,
are you know? This and Severance are big, big projects

(01:06:51):
that we want to capture America's attention, and and it
was epic, and season two was epic, and really it
is it really is you know long you got got through, got.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
I got through what is it twenty or twenty two
hour long?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Episodes. It is a long it's not easy as arcane
to catch up on, but it is exceptional television. It's
all the way to number sixteen. I have it just
a couple of slots under and or for the best
show going right now, right now in sense of just
like continuing to be made at times right So, I

(01:07:25):
think Silo is up there with with some of the
best sci IF I ever done, and it's it's this
really fun idea and I know it's it's it's off
of these books. So it's just applying these books that
I refuse to read because I don't want to get
ahead and I don't want to know what happens. I
just want to continue to watch and then read the books.
But Silo Season two was fricking incredible, and I just

(01:07:51):
I can't get steve's On, who's been a character actor
and a number of things shows up, and steve's On
was the MVP of season two, and Rebecca fergus And
does a great job. Everybody does a really solid job,
and I think it's, just for my money, one of
the best shows going right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
So I was going to ask you about Rebecca Fariusing
because she's also dude, another sci fi kind of gives
me the similar vibes in a sort of way. What
is she better in this? Better in Dune? Because I
actually think she's fantastic in Doune one, and she's kind
of a weak point in doing two.

Speaker 2 (01:08:22):
For me, that's interesting. I think she's great in both.
I mean, okay, June two is my third favorite movie
of all time. Wow, Okay, I am so ridiculously in
love with those movies. I love her in Dune and
I love her in both Dunes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Okay, she's good in this. Okay, she's She's No, that's
a diservice.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
She's very good in this right, and especially season two,
where she has to basically play a lot of a
different role than she did in season one and play
almost an entirely different mental space character. But still, the
way she plays in Dune is just it's it's something

(01:09:04):
I done too. I don't think there's a minus in
that movie.

Speaker 1 (01:09:08):
Yeah, I just I get taken back a little bit
by Uh, maybe it's more the writing than she is,
but kind of her as the which person that is
like kind of at.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
Odds with she's the mother.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
Yeah, but like not really because like it's a weird
dynamic because like she kind of planned this whole thing
and and her relationship with uh uh.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
What Timothy Salm, Yeah, I forget her son, Yeah, Paul trades, Yeah, Paul,
it's right, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Uh it is a little weird to me. Uh And
I think she plays like kind of the scared like
but also very like loving in a different way and
kind of struggling with the relationship mom in Doing One fantastically,
and it's a little less of that in Done too,
because she has to be this kind of like I

(01:10:03):
don't say propaganda like more.

Speaker 2 (01:10:05):
Just oh yeah, she's the one who understands, like listen,
this is now the prophecy coming to be fined.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I know I have to play my role, and it's
just a different character for her. So I'm not saying
it's a time maybe not a week point is a
little strong of a word, as strong as a weekloot.
But I just I don't like her as much.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
In Done, she's the weakest part of Doom two and
maybe that's true. It's not very much of a weak.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Point now, and I don't know how he got into
the two, but yeah, Sila looks good. It's great, like
you said it kind of looks like a beast to
take on. It's a beast. So I'm gonna wait until
I basically have nothing on my plate.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
I will say they are already working on seasons three
and seasons four, so Apple saw listen, Apple greenlit season
four while they were halfway through showing season two, so
they already saw, Oh, this has such big viewership, and
this has such big potential given the books and the

(01:10:58):
story involved. And we can clearly kind of start to
see the story it's going down because season two ends,
and it ends the second to last season season two
would just leave your face.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
On the floor of Oh my god, it's like the
last episode of season two. Uh huh yeah, second last
episode of Sea second to last scene of the scene
season yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Sorry, sorry, second to last scene of the entire season.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
It leaves your jaw on the floor. And then they
just add another scene at the very end of the
last episode that just melts your fricking face off. Okay,
and it's very losty In And I actually, I actually,
you know, I turned to my wife and and and
I said, did we hit a button? Because it's it's

(01:11:43):
not the same show.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
They basically turn it into a different show. In an
added scene at the it just like that's very lost.
You to be like, are we are we watching the
right show right now? And that's a question that I
asked myself a lot in long to my am. I
watching the same show and it does the at the
very very end of Silo and it's it's perfect, Like

(01:12:06):
I think the last episode of season two is a
damn near perfect episode of TV and it's it's it's
worthy for me of vaulting it so high up the list.
So again, you really got to do take On when
nothing else is happening and then the dead time of summer.
But it is worth catching up because because you're gonna
want to be on the ride for seasons three and
seasons You've got me hooked.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
I wonder if now I'll be looking out for that
change that I'll be like, not hit as hard as
you were when you.

Speaker 2 (01:12:33):
First sat it'll hit Okay, great, it'll still right.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
That sounds good?

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
All right, Uh, that's it, wow, lot lot to go over. Okay,
all right, Well, we will hopefully be back with Chris
and with Jeffsman. We'll have more thoughts on everything that
we're watching it season baby, oh man, let's go. Let's
go tomorrow morning that begins and we will be texting
each other we watched that. Yes, all right, So your homework, folks,

(01:13:01):
is Arcane season two first and foremost. I believe to
make sure to one, uh well season one and then
and then start watching season two because we're gonna be
talking about it as the podcast rolls on. Uh. Andrews
Hurrist fall him on Twitter at anders Hurst, Jackson, Felts
at Jackson on radio wherever you got get your socials,
Jesson and Chris. Hopefully we'll be back next week, will
continue to talk about what we're watching. We'll do a draft.

(01:13:23):
We still have to get to the draft of the
superhero alter egos you would want to be friends with? Okay,
that would be fun.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:28):
And we will have more content next week. So everybody
have a very very good week. We will talk to
you soon.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
That'll do. Don't get that'll do.