July 5, 2025 • 48 mins
Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, July 5th, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app
coming live from the very cozy Donavan and Jorgans and
Eating and Cooling Studios. I might been given alongside Bingo.
Emma's the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Fourth, Bingo, Yeah, Happy Fourth of July. You know,
we were in to pray yesterday. Brought a big crowd
and I was like, rainer, you know. Yeah. I was like, well,
maybe they got canceled because some praise got canceled because
the rain. Right, So Sam went to the website and goes,
now we're a rain or Shine kind of cross.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Rain or Shine, man. I we used to go to
that one. It was probably the longest Fourth of July
parade I've ever been. How many kazoo bands can you
fit in a prade?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's I just don't know, because it doesn't seem like
that praise that long. But five thousand pops goes later,
we're still short.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You're still short.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, So I think we've just got to I don't know,
but probably we got to keep buying more and more.
I love that there was a whole freezers chest.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Up the fourth the picture I saw Dev was in
the back of the truck helping with popsicle.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, and you know, in the I think people are
starting to realize that we do give popsicles. So like
all of a sudden, the street looks like it's wide
open as soon as as soon as we get up
to it. We barely get our truck and the horse
through and stuff because it's He's like, oh, this is
like a mob situation.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Man, people people want the popsicles, and you ran out again,
so you got to go maybe six thousand were.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Like, well, maybe we have to get a double freezer
or something. I don't know, get a trailer freezers. But anyways,
one of your fans, Janie Anderson, says, well, to make
sure I give you this, uh it said, it's a
Bailey's brownie and it's rose pedal jam And that is awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Who gave this to me?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Janie M Anderson, she's one of your fans.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's awesome, Jane, thank you very much. I'm getting maybe
open it during the break.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Who knows I some of that, Jam, I mean I
didn't have any yours?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Okay, good? Yeah, it looks full.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I got my own boy had a boy. Well
I should have should support a half your order, say
she just gave me half a job.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Trust me, I would have caught you on that. I
would have caught you our special guest. It's good to
see him again. It's been a bit since he's been
a studio with us. He is Dave Harley. He is
the owner, president, chief everything officers. What I got from
the website advanta Clean, Advantage Clean is of badger Land.
So that's here in Brookfield, Wisconsin. And boy, they do.
(02:27):
They do a lot of things and we're going to
get into a ton of them. Dave, how you been.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I've been great.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey. How's business?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Business is good?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, you guys busy, Yeah, we're busy. Now what is
the busiest part this time of year for you?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Probably mold.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So people are calling saying, hey, there's a lot of
fear obviously with with mold and some of the things
that it can do to your health. And so people
are calling saying, look, we've got mold mostly in the
basement or.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's where most people find it themselves. Other ways they
find and it is when they go to sell their
house and they have a home inspection, the home inspector
finds it, say in the attic. Yeah, because they don't
go in the attic, they didn't know it was.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
There, or a naf's job of that leaks.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah. When you pick up a motor like this and
you be moisture media and you can't get am moisture
meating because there's no substrate.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh not good. That's that's always moldy and that's when
they call you. Yeah, what explain what mold is for
people that that look. I think all of us understand.
The first show we ever did with mold was Big O.
Your daughter came in.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, she's talking about molesey because there's so many different kinds.
He's well, he's one of those people that he can
tell you what the trillions and he can name them all.
He just looks at it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, we don't have we only have an hour on
the show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Some olds are good for you and some olds are not.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah. Can you give us a definition of what people
should be looking for and what maybe some people don't
see that they need to see.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, it's it's typically a discoloration. Mold comes in every
color of the rainbow, but typically what people notice is
black mold because it's easiest to see. It's a little
round spots that will show up on the surface of
something like your water softener or your basement wall. It
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tends to start down low because people get water in
their basement and that water is drawn up by the
dry wall, and the drywall gets wet, and when it
gets wet, it becomes a prime source of mold.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, and it turns out too that not nobody is
affected by mold the same way. Some people just a
little part of it in their house and they can't breathe.
You know, it hurts. It hurts them. And you know
we've done shows that John, you know, from step Beyond Greene,
and some people get mold and it's there. There's also
toutors on an honest thing. I learned this from Dave
because yeah, you know, I'm a couple of presentations. There's
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like a white mold in people's basements that people don't
really pay attention to because there's like a little white
fuzz on a beam or a behind a dresser or
something in a basement. People don't pay attention to it,
but that's a mold.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah. They think they can just either paint over it
or wash it and with bleach and it goes.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Wait, it doesn't, No, it doesn't, especially if it's on
a porous surface like wood or drywall, the paper of drywall.
If you use bleach on that, what's going to happen
is that active ingredient in the bleach is going to
sit on top of the substrate, on top of the wood,
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and the water bleach is ninety eight percent water. The
water is going to soak in and it's going to
end up feeding the.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Mold, actually actually making it worse.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're making it worse. Yeah, man's that's kind of scary. Guy.
I know that. Growing up, my grandmother and my mom
thought bleach could clean everything, right, I mean that's kind
of what they thought, and any any issues, especially in
the bathroom, they would use bleach, or they'd use comics,
or they'd use anything like that. And you get a
little but when you know more about it, as we
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do now, you can't use bleach to clean that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You can on a non porous surface like tile, bleach
will work because the water doesn't soak in and the
active ingredient on the top will kill the mold and
help you wipe it off.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What how does mold grow? What? There are some things
that it needs to be able to grow. I know
temperature is one of them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Correct, Yeah, it really needs four things. I typically say
three things, but there's a fourth. The fourth is it
needs spores. You need the mold itself to be there.
But mold is everywhere. So there's mold in this room,
we're breathing it. It's everywhere. Mold needs a temperature between
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forty and one hundred degrees so that's basically the indoor
temperature of your house.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
See like last week, we were safe because it was
blow forty degrees right, yeah? Safe? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, it took me all the way. I literally had
the heat onto my car going home last week. That's how. Yeah,
And Spencer's laughing at me because I used to be
a tough guy. I'm not tough anymore. It's just a wor.
You should be happy you're here this week because the
heat just kicked in. So in they Donovan and Jorgans
and heating and cooling studios. It's awesome. So let's go
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back to that. So what else does mold need to grow?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It also needs a food source. Mold eats organic matter.
That's not living, so wood paper, that kind of thing.
And the fourth thing that it needs is moisture water,
and that tends to be the wild card. That is,
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what is causing the mold to grow in your attic,
in your basement is an excess of moisture. So if
you can control the moisture, you can control the mold.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Hey, people that have mold, what what are some of
the effects that maybe they don't know they have it,
but what are some of the effects health wise that
they need to pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, mold is either allergenic, pathogenic or toxogenic.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's not. He's not toxics Like we mean, I can't
even spell me neither.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But I keep we keep not toxic. That's why we
bring in.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The expert allergenetic talk. Yeah, well absolutely, I was worried
about toxogenic.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Allergenic is causes allergy type symptoms, sneezing, itchy, watery eyes,
that kind of thing, hives. Pathogenic is it will cause
mold related illnesses. It can be anywhere from like an
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infection type thing to outright mold growing within your body.
Toxogenic mold is toxic. Uh, it creates micro toxins that
are actually dangerous and can kill you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If I asked you, how long have you been the
owner of Advantage.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Clean, I've been doing this about six years.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So eight years ago. If I'm talking to you and
I said, hey, eight years, you're going to be sitting
on a radio show and you're going to know everything
there is to know about MULD, what would you have
said to me, You're nuts? And now look at you
just being bing. My goodness, the amount of information and
knowledge that you've had to figure out and learn when
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you bought this company, started this company here and in
the Brookfield area has to be incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It is. I mean there is a lot to learn.
I relearn a lot of it through the normal course
of business. I'll encounter something that I haven't encountered in
a number of years, and I'll end up having to
go back and relearn some facet of the business.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's incredible. Hey, where does mold in your home? Word?
Is there normal places that it grows or is there
typical places that it grows in the home?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Typical places are going to be any place that gets wet.
So where I tell people to look for it is
in the basement, especially if you have a finished basement,
look around the baseboards. If you've ever had a water
intrusion in your basement where you know, a sewers backed
up or some pumps overflowed or something like that, you
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need to look at underneath the carpeting. If you have
a musty smell, that can be an indication that you've
got excess moisture and a mold issue.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So the mothballs that my aunt used to put in
her closets all the time, that's not kind of No,
that's loss.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
There's also something too that you have a small amount
of time to your rid before guess where. Okay, let's
say you have like a plumbing leak in your bathroom
or leak's into your kitchen ceiling. Ay, what's going You
got like twenty four hours to remove it. After that,
mold will start to grow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Man, You gotta be careful with all of that. If
somebody finds mold in their home, is there a way
they can test it or should they immediately call you?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's really best to call a professional. There are indoor
environmental professionals that specialize in mold testing and analysis where
they can come to your house. They can do a
battery of tests. They'll test the moisture levels of the
walls and the ceiling and the floor. They'll take samples
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of dust on surfaces, they'll take air samples, and they'll
look under a microscope and see what they know, what
sort of mold you have in the house.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Do you guys do that at a VANA clean? Do
you guys? We do, so you do the mold testing
and you'll and and removal. Yes, in both residential and
commercial buildings. Do you do more business and residential or commercial?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We do more residential that we tend to do mostly
addicts and basements. That tends to be where the mold is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But we've.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Worked on a number of kitchens this year where the
dishwasher leaked and the mold grew behind the cabinets. The
unfortunate thing with that is you end up having to
take out all the cabinets. So some people that have
recently done their kitchen, we're in there turning it out out.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh that's got it. Just it keeps you up at night,
you know, having to do that. What other things you
guys offer, And we're going to get into some of
those and I'm more in detail and chech in two
and three. But let's talk a little bit about some
of the other things that you guys do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
The easiest way to remember what we do is think
of the word wammo okay, w a m o. W
is water. We do emergency water clean up and drying.
That's you know, drained backs up, toilet overflows, what have you.
We'll come and clean it up and dry it out.
A air ducts we do air duct cleaning, air conditioning,
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coil cleaning, dryer, vent cleaning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Don't do something discussing did our house, Well, it hasn't
done probably since they built it, right right, Yeah, they
find a lot of stuff in those things.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, I bet we we had diamond joriansho. We had
to do a uh came out and did our vent
for our dryer because we bought a condo that was flipped,
bought a new washer dryer. They couldn't get the old
dryer out because they made the doors. Oh no, yeah,
so I got to have Bengo come take a look.
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My wife on like two days ago. My wife was like,
you know, when we get a new dryer, you have
to ask Bengo to come look at how we can
get the door off and get the dry old one out,
get the new one in. I said, yeah, just let's
hope the vent, let's hope the dryer works for a while.
Let's just push that can down the right down the
street a little bit. But you guys offer that. Do
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you guys do a lot of duck cleaning?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Uh? Yeah, we do. We do a lot of residential
duck cleaning. We do some commercial. We do a lot
of dryer events. We'll do entire apartment complexes and five
hundred dryer events.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, in my condo, they call the lady and she said,
who handles our condo? And she said, yeah, we had
the events cleaned out like in March. And the guy
I had her on speaker and the guy said, did
they come in everybody's condo and blow it out? Well, no,
they went on the roof and they blew it in,
which is just a way the money, And that's the
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reason we had to have somebody else come out and
do it. Hey, so m would be for mold the world.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And oh is odors? Okay, we do odor elimination and
odor control, so pet odors, cigarettes, smoke, We have methods
of helping people.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, Spencer just said that'd be great on Talk one night.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There you go, yeah, yes, you did say.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That people that buy houses or want to buy a
house that somebody smoked in for twenty five years and
the walls are brown with tar and that kind of thing.
We can come in and we can clean that up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I've seen that he's talking about people and then
people trying to paint it paint over those those holes
where guys that chain smoker for our whole entire life.
It just bleeds right through.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You can't buy a special paint, you know, falls advertisement.
This paint is great for uh for orders or mold or.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, the one paint that that look we had talked
about is it kills k I l Z great for stains.
Mold is not a stain. And it says right on
the product. I mean, people think that they could use
that product and that's going to eliminate the mold and
it comes back in a month or something.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right, I can't tell you how many times will go
up in an attic that's been painted with Kills and
it's the mold is just coming through everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
They spray it on and you know, and they don't
solve the problem. They just they cover it up. They
covered it up and still in there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And it says right on the product that it's not
designed for that. But people still believe that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well because it says on the label part kills, you know,
for mold or something. Right, yeah, right, But then you
read the next page. This does not remove bald part
of the label.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah. The amount of times that you've seen that has
got to be incredible. Oh yeah, my goodness. Hey, guys,
let's get to a break the other side of the break.
Let's talk about you will go into the older part
and what are the you guys can eliminate common orders
and we'll talk about musty odors in the basement, cat
and dog problems and new paint orders, stuff like that.
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If you're interested, you can go to their website. It's
a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com. Vanta Clean of
badger Land dot com. Excuse me. They are located in
Brookfield phone numbers two six two four three seven seven
three three zero four three seven seven three three zero,
And I trust me Dave Harley can answer any questions.
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And if eight years ago he would have been like
what are you talking about? But today he's got all
of it. And I did get a text. By the way,
I want to thank Aaron's mom, Jane. That's who she is.
I didn't know that, Janny. Thanks for the gifts. I
really appreciate it. You got you got a really nice boy.
Did a nice job with that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You think I just grabbed some from some stranger in
the parking lot and just hand me and say here,
eat this.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, I didn't know who she was. I've met her
a few times, but yeah, man, I appreciate that a
lot and depth. Thanks for the text. I appreciate that well.
On the other side of the break will continue our
conversation with Dave Harley again. He is the owner, president
and chief everything officer. I like that line. By the way,
that's a big business card you have from Avanta Clean
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of badger Land and you can go to Advantacleanofbadgerland dot
com for more information on his company. This is the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports ninety
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the largest employee owned HVAC company in the state of Wisconsin.
And what does that mean for you? Anybody you have
coming over to your house to help you with your
HVAC system is one of the owners of Donovan Jorgenson. Again,
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go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com. I'm Mike McGivern alongside
Bingo Emmons, the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin, and our
special guest he is Dave Harley Advanta Clean Owner, President
and Chief Everything Officer. Go to Advanta Clean of Badgerland
dot com, located in Brookfield off one hundred and twenty
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seventh Street. So, Dave, let's we were going to talk owners,
but let's go back to duck cleaning real quick, and
let's talk about kind of when when people need to
think about having it done. It's not something that Look,
I have maintenance on my EIGHTHVAC system and they come
out twice a year just to make sure the air
conditioners working, make sure that furnace is going to work.
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Talk to me about when people should how often you
should have your duck cleaning done.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The National Association of Duck Cleaners recommends every two years.
I tell people that's that's a little more frequent than
I think you need to. I would go every four years.
Unless you've got somebody in the house that has asthma
or breathing issues, that kind of thing, and you have pets,
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you'd probably benefit from going closer to the two years.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But between two and four years you get a reaverage.
Person does it zero times.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, because you just don't think about
it until you're forced to think about it, and it's
eventually going to save you some money if you do
it every two to four years, because if you never
do it once you need it. Now that's a big job, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
When we do it. To Bingo's point, it is amazing
how much stuff we can get. We can fill two
or three five gallon pails with the dust, dirt, and
debris that comes out of air ducts.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hey, when you air ducts, did you do condos? Do
you work with condos? Because you see you had talked
about apartments a little bit earlier. More difficult in condos
because it seems like in our condo. I don't know.
There there's some things. When I had the people at
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Dinavan Jordans to come out to do the the dryer
one to do the rest of the ar condo, I
think there's there's some issues for them.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
To do that. Yeah, it's it tends to be difficult
because the furnace is small, it's tucked away tightly in
a closet. Yep, there's little to no access. What we
do is we will what's called reverse clean it. So
normally we would hook up a vacuum to the furnace
itself and then we would push all the dirt and
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everything to that vacuum. In reverse cleaning, we go to
the vent and we clean from the vent side, okay,
and we use a whip to pull the stuff that
is in the ducks to the vacuum.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Hey, and when people get that done, and again you
recommend two to four years, every two to four years
to get it done, I've got to believe that that
really helps their efficiency from their system, saving energy, saving money,
all of the above. Correct, Yes, it does. Yeah, I
think that's important for people to understand that, right, Yeah,
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to be able to understand and then if somebody says
to you, like, what is the benefit, Why do I
need to get my ducks cleaned? What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, I tell them just what we've been talking about.
It's going to help you to breathe easier because you're
going to have less particulate matter being blown around by
your air conditioning system. Or you're a furnace, it's going
to make the furnace more efficient, it's going to make
it run cooler and quieter. It just as a general
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benefit overall.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Hey, how much business do you do in the older
part where people get you know, when when you think
about musty odors in your basement or even you know,
new paint order that you can't get rid of. How
much of that you guys do You guys work in.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We don't do a ton of it, but when we
do do it, it's a usually a pretty big job.
We recently worked on a house that was owned by
a hoarder. He passed away in the house. Unfortunately his
dog did too and nobody found him for a while.
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So the house had a pretty strong odor to it,
and we were able to knock that way back with
just doing one simple treatment. They just wanted to get
it so that you could spend time in the house. Yeah,
but we've worked on other houses where there's the cigarette smoke,
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like Bingo and I were talking about with the brown
tar outlines of where pictures used to have that kind
of thing. And we've been able to get rid of
the cigarette smoke smell completely.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The pet urine and and and mold and sewage and
you have on your website and skunk smell, you guys
can get rid of that. Yeah, tomato juice, you don't
use tomato juice to Bingo knows.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
We have a little more about that. Happened my dog
when skunk once we did give him a tomato juice bathroom.
It actually worked, did it really?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it's not going to work in your house. I'll
think your seventh step process from vacuumting to treatment with
through a vapor and and your tie microbowl treatment. Talk
about the process when somebody calls you and says, look,
you know the the hoarder or somebody has been smoking
in this house for twenty years. Talk about that process
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that you guys use.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
What we first do is we attack the source, so
we identify the source of its pet odors it's understanding
where the pet was doing his or her business. Carpet, right, Yeah,
And you have to get rid of things like carpet
because you're never going to get it clean. So we
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attack the source first. Then we'll go after the stains
and that sort of thing. So, like in the cigarette
smoke example, we'll wash down the walls with a product
that we have that neutralizes the tar and gets rid
of the smell. From there, we'll do a vapor treatment
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where we'll release a vapor in the home in the building,
and that vapor is super tiny molecule that gets into
the pores of the walls and the floors and the
ceilings and it kills the odors at a molecular level.
It's an oxidizer and it takes care of the mold
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or not well mold and the odors at a molecular level.
And then from there we'll go through and we'll fog
with an anti microbial that'll kill any germs and stuff
that's left.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Can you spell that one?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean he always does that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, we're gonna start calling him by doctor Dave. I think, hey,
I got a text with somebody. Going back to our
first segment, if they have a small patch of mold
in their basement. Can they clean that themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
If it's really small, Yeah, they probably could.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Should they wear the mask and the gloves and the
whole bit.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, I would get an anti mold, anti microbial
sorry bingo at a big box store minards are home
depot that kind of thing they have. There's one by Conchrobium.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There are do you know I'm not saying Bleach.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
No, he's not.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He's not the average person. I think Bleach will do it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And that's what this text was. Look, that's what they
thought that they should use until they heard you talk
in the first segment. But there's a product if they
go to a big box store and what's the name
of it.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
There's one called Conchrobium. There's another one called wet it
and forget it. You need to be patient with these
because they're not at the they're not quote unquote professional strength.
They're strong enough to get get rid of the mold,
but it'll take some time.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So they needed to wipe it down a number of
times before it works.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah. If the product, if it's bigger than a
small patch, how big would you recommend that they call you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would say if it's ten square feet, if it's
over ten square feet.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
To give us.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
There's a lot of companies they can't do over ten
square feet. Yeah, I mean restoration companies. Right, they can't
do it if it's over ten square feet because it's
it's a it's a different qualification. And that's true.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So they if they come to the house and it's
over ten feet, they got to tell you to call
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm talking about I'm doing in those groups, it was
a service master of the exact like this is, we
can't do it because it's over ten square feet because
some people can't do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, that's when you give David. Yeah, it's right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I'm just saying if if if those people can't
do over ten square feet, maybe you shouldn't try to
do it either.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, that's a really good point. I agree with that.
How many how many employees do you have?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I have six employees and and all of them out
on Well, I have four guys in the field excellent
that are doing the jobs. I have one gentleman who
is an estimator, so he goes out and estimates for people,
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does the inspection, gives them guidance and what they can do,
and uh, he'll write up a proposal for us to
do the work for them. And then I have an
administrative assistant.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
That's awesome. Good for you. It's good to look. I
think last time we had you, and I think he
had four employees or five. I don't know if you've
you you're growing a little bit, but I love that.
What territory do you do? You cover?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We cover all the southeastern Wisconsin. So we'll go if
you draw a circle one hour drive from Brookfield, yeah,
we'll we'll go there. So we'll go to Sheboygan. We'll
go to Fox Valley.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, don't go in our east because that's where
water damage comes in. If I certainly took an OSHA
and you'll you'll do that. Hey, how much business do
you guys do with the water damage restoration? We had
when we were on eighty eighth Street, our basement got
flooded a couple of times, and the first time we
didn't have insurance, So we're My wife and I were
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down with a mask and the and the gloves and it.
We were up all night cleaning that it was backup
sewer water and immediately put it on, it got insured
in two years later it happened again and then we
had somebody that could come do it. Funny part about
that the we I was up all night cleaning it,
and that that next day in the evening, my wife
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and I tickets to wicket Right. She wants to see
it Broadway show down town right, Broadway across America. I
was snoring so loud that we had to leave before
intermission and ended up having to get tickets for the
next time it came, and made sure I stayed awake
the whole time. But boy, what a nightmare that was
to have to do that on our own. Yeah. How
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much of that kind of business do you guys do?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's about ten percent of our business is water damage
and it varies from We see a lot of some
pump failures. I mean, that's advice I can give is
check your some pump a couple times a year.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know, when you change the batteries and your smoke
detectors go down and make sure that your some pump
is working, Get a battery backup, get a redundant pump
so you have two pumps. If your some pump runs
a lot when it rains. You really need to do
that because we've seen a ton of houses.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, Dave, you're giving tips for people where they're
not going to have to use you. That's pretty nice. Yeah.
You know, the more people that take your advice and
what you just said, if they do that, they probably
are not going to need you to come and help them.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's like, you know, it's like clean your events. A
lot people don't check their sub pumps right and they
find out about it when it's always too late. Yeah,
and sometimes I heard it go on, but that doesn't
mean it's pumping.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Does not mean it's pumpy. Yeah. I think that's really
really good advice.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Hey, Dave, let's get to a break. Other side of
the break will continue. I got a few more questions
when it comes to water damage because I think just
because I've been through it a number of times and
it's just a nightmare. It's just a nightmare. And we're
going to get your advice and a couple of questions
when it comes to that. Again, he is Dave Harley.
He is the owner, president, chief everything officer. I just
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like that line. By the way, at Vanta Clean, you
can go to a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com.
A Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com located in Brookfield.
Their territory is about an hour from Brookfield, so southeast Wisconsin.
They're here to help you and you can give them
a call anytime and get ahold of Dave and he'll
answer questions for you. He certainly knows a lot about
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this industry. This is the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home
improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeart
Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin
home improvement show, coming live from the Donovan to Jorgensen
Heating and Cooling Studios. I want to thank Spencer good music,
good bumper music. Will stay away from the one song
(33:36):
that we had talked about, Spencer, but everything else fair game.
I Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emans. He's the owner of
Creative Construction of Wisconsin. Our special guest man is he knowledgeable?
He is Dave Harley. He's the owner, president of Chief
Everything officer at Avanta Clean. And you can go to
a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com for more information.
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Hey Davis, somebody calls you your company on Monday shuts
up an appointment. Can we talk about the process and
the timing right now? If somebody wants you to come out,
is it, is it a day, is it a week?
How long does it and will it take for for
you guys to be available to come see somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
What we do is we have a customer service center
that will set an appointment for you on your desired day,
and then my estimator will call you and firm up
a time based on his calendar that day and your calendar.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Or does he work evenings as well? Yeah, okay, yeah,
I think that's important because if people are at work
and and they come.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
With well mostly yeah, most of these disasters usually happen
on a holiday, right what you do it seems that way.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, it's five thirty on a Friday night. That's that's
why that's get the water damage calls. It's five thirty
on a Friday night.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Well, and you you guys are time wise right now,
if somebody calls on Monday, if they have if they
see mold in the basement, let's just use that one
where it's not I guess it is an emergency, but
it's not like they have water in their basement. How
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long would it be to get to get your crew
out there, to get people to come on and help.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Usually within two days okay, eight hours. Wow, we can
get you in if it's really urgent. Say, for example,
you had a home inspection, you're scheduled to close in
a week, and the home inspector found mold and the
buyer wants it taken care of before closing. We can
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fit you in. I mean, we'll shoehorn you in.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Se Do you guys offer emergency service. We do.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
We offer twenty four by seven emergency service. For water.
I'm not going to come out there for attic mold, No.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, at eight o'clock on a Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
No. No, But for for water for water damage?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, Well when you when when we talk water damage,
what is the most common water coming like ours? Was not?
I don't think common backup sewer water and they find
city and walk you finally fix the sewers in our neighborhood.
Never happened again, but didn't take credit for when it
happened the two times before they fixed the the uh,
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the sewers outside. What is the most common with with
with waters in the basement?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, it is typically the basement. In the summertime, what
the most common we see is the some pump, some
pump fails and the crack overflows and you get water
all over the basement. In the winter, it's frozen pipes.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Hey, hey, bingo, if I how much do you guys
work together? Do you get? Could you get called in
from from.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Day to well, sometimes we'll get a call, like you say,
for a kitchen ceiling or something right, and we take
it apart and we go, oh, you got mold in here.
You got to you gotta have someone come and take
care of that. Like you said, anything over you know,
ten square feet or six square feet. You know, you're
not supposed to try to do it yourself because you
can't just like just spray something over it. You gotta
put microobia growth. We didn't want in Franklin when we
had to take the wall off, we had to wait
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for the moisture out of the wood to get down,
get down like fourteen or something, because if the wood
moisture is anything over twenty or more, that's that can
grow mold. So when you first put the meter on
there and we're getting you're getting like eighteen nineteen for
the meters. They're like, Okay, you gotta wait for it
to dry out and then the spray it. Then they
clean it, and then you spray with the antimicrobia growth.
(37:41):
So I can say that good for you. Yeah, they'll
spray with that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Practice.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, they'll spray with that, and then you gotta wait
four hours for that to dry it and we can
actually start covering these walls back up.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Hey, it said depending on the age of the house,
do you see more in real older houses or more
in the newer ones.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
We actually see more mold in newer houses. And the
interesting thing about that is it's it's because the building
envelope then the space contained within the building is so
tightly sealed these days with all the you know things
that they use.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Let's tell the example, right, you see an old home,
right when you go visit like an old home or something,
you know, you get like nose bleeds because they're so dry.
You get to add you're adding moisture to the air,
right April air and add and all that stuff trying
to get the moisture back in the air. You get
a new home and you get dehumanifiers or running in
a winter time with those homes because because every time
you cook something at moistures trapped, you take a shower
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to moistures trap.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
You know. Randy Miller talked about that one time when
we're talking about some of the things like ice dams
and stuff like that, and how these the newer homes
are sealed up so tight, and and that's.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Here's the deals. Their seals so tight. It's not not
that you know, it's supposed to the sill lip will
type of water can't come in. But when water gets in,
it can't go ow, it can't get out. Then that's
when it becomes a disaster for Dave the fix.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Hey, how long have you owned and being been a
part of Vana clean since when six years? Six years
and your first thirty years you were in finance and investment.
So that's why it's so fascinating to me how much
knowledge you have in this industry. Did you know what
you were getting into when you decided to move over
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to this industry.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
No, not exactly. I mean I knew. One of the
things that I had always wanted to do is I
had always wanted to work with my hands, do something
practical where I could help people, and you know, maybe
occasionally swing a hammer or do something, and advanta clean
(39:57):
appealed to me because of the product. You know, you
got to deal with mold no matter what the economy is,
no matter what the stock market's doing.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, you have no choice. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta
either Emily or Jennifer getting involved in the business.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Emily was a technician for me for the first couple
of years I was in the business. Okay, And to
this day, I say she was the best damn technician
I ever had.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Wow. And then she decided to move on, or.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
She decided to get married and go to school and
all those things, and I couldn't couldn't stop her.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, and those are good things. You're right, if you know,
if she wanted to leave the leave the family business
for because she wanted to be a professional poker player,
I would have a problem. But to get married and
and uh I go back to school. Did did the
kids live in this area? No.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Emily lives in Nebraska. She went to University of Nebraska
for grad school and stayed with her husband, and Jennifer
lives in Minneapolis. She went to University of Minnesota and
stayed After a.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Couple of Big ten Girls. Huh Yeah, how about Anne
is Is she involved?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
She's involved from the standpoint that she has to deal
with all this stuff. Yeah, I'm dealing with well.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I always say in my other show, there's a special
place in heaven for coaches wives. There's a special place
in heaven for guys that own their own business and
their wives who you know, you would say, no, she's
not on the payroll, but where they're involved. I just
had to fire my secretary a couple of weeks ago
for the mcgiffern agency, and my wife, Terry didn't even
know she was my secretary. But she's still my personal assistant, Dave,
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and I've got to keep her, uh, keep her doing
that kind of stuff. When you look at twenty twenty
five and the future of your company looks right to you.
Like you said, I mean, the things we're talking about,
people are going to need no matter what's happening in
our world, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
There's a new awareness of mold and the issues that
it causes, the health issues that it causes. In the
medical community. It used to be mold related illnesses weren't
diagnosed or were misdiagnosed, and doctors are spending more time
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learning about mold and the effects of mold, and learning
about the importance of remediation and getting rid of the
mold out of people's homes with businesses.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Is there a way people can prevent mold growth in
their home.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
It's control the water it make sure you've got adequate ventilation.
Bingo mentioned the april airs, you know, make sure that
it's running properly. Oftentimes we'll see april airs that people
haven't paid attention to you.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
They have that you know, a cartridge, right, I've seen this, right,
do you have a cartoon? You pull it out and
it's it's mold on there. Right, there's like molding your
system and it's actually blowing it through the house.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You've seen some some scary things at that. Yeah, yeah,
I I When you go into these you a lot
of times you're not exactly sure what what you're going
to see. Hey, on the day to.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Day thing about you know, being a mold guy like this.
I'm sure this isn't like dinner talk.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
No, no, no, you're not talking this uh at at
at dinner for sure, And and this isn't something that
you want to deal with. There's nothing there's nothing sexy
about this. Right, you paid your house, or you get
new wash or dryer, or you're getting you know, if
you redo your kitchen.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
You want people to I seen him like when I
see him like, you know, because I've been in a seminars.
He does all right. He knows what the name of
everyone is like and there's there's there's so many different
molds and he's all excited he can name them all to.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Be that Wayne State kind of graduated, right that did
you go to school there?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, it's Wayne's. I got my MBA at Wayne State? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What was that like? It was?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It was an interesting time because all of my classmates
either worked for Ford, Chrysler or GM. Yeah at the time.
I did this in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Where where is Wayne State?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
It's in Detroit. I actually went to a satellite Okay,
but it was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I've a brother has a house in Birmingham.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Chrysler was his big account when he was with Bi
and my brother Jim and his wife Catherine live in Sarasota,
but bought a summer home in Birmingham because he can't
take the heat in Florida. It's like it's horrible, and
so they they they're in Michigan right now and we're
going to go over in September, play little golf and
hang out. But he loves that area and Chrysler was
(44:52):
his big account. And certainly Wayne State. When you said
all your classmates they all worked at some auto place,
how think in that area, No doubt you were coming
back here. Not similar to your kids when they go
to school somewhere, they stay in that area. But you
always knew you wanted to come back.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I did want to know I wanted to come back,
and uh, my company at the time I was with
Pain Weber had an opening in Milwaukee office, and so
I jumped on it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Hey, winter, summer, fall, spring, what's the busiest busiest season
for you?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Probably summer and early fall. Our businesses heavily reliant on
the real estate markets. So when the real estate markets suffer,
we suffer. When the real estate markets boom, we boom.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Is it booming now?
Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's booming now?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah? Yeah. A condo or two condos in the condo
complex that I'm living and went up for sale, and
I think both sold within a week, I mean, and
that tells me that things are starting to pop again
a little bit. And that's that's good for your business.
Did you see in twenty twenty six? And maybe expanding
(46:14):
The amount of people you have working for you is
six a really good number.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Six is a good number. But I would like to expand.
I'd like to get four trucks on the road.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
So what does somebody have to the knowledge they have
to have? Do you need somebody's experience or somebody who's
willing to learn and work hard.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I need somebody that's willing to learn and work hard,
and that is very customer focused. We're extremely customer focused.
The customer comes first. Their experience is the most important.
So that's that's what's most important to me. I can
teach them the old stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, well, Bingo, and you heard Bingo with some of
the words that you were using. We're just right off
the tip, yeah, right out. He can't spell any of them,
but he can he certainly can pronounce him.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So I'm gonna start putting Bingo in addics.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
There. There you go. That's awesome, Bingo. It's good to
see you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yep, yeah you too. And a happy fourth they're lying
for the twitter and fiftieth you should be the you
should be in a pray for the twinter in fifty.
We put you in the back of the truck. You
can help with the popsile. Well, Devil'll be back there
with that's gonna be a big one. Yeah, back there
with me.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I will I will follow her, for sure, I will
follow her. It's good to see you, David. It's good
to see you again. Good yeah, good luck again. You
can any questions you have when it comes to what
Avanta Clean does go to advanta Clean of Badgerland dot
com located in Brookfield and if you give them a
call on Monday, Dave will call you back and trust me,
he will answer any questions you have. Two six two
(47:49):
four three seven seven three three zero. Guys, have a
good weekend.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
How you doing you bet? This is the creative construction
of Wisconsin Homie Prouveba Shawn Fox Sports nine twenty and
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Welcome to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
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coming live from the very cozy Donavan and Jorgans and
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Emma's the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Happy Fourth, Bingo, Yeah, Happy Fourth of July. You know,
we were in to pray yesterday. Brought a big crowd
and I was like, rainer, you know. Yeah. I was like, well,
maybe they got canceled because some praise got canceled because
the rain. Right, So Sam went to the website and goes,
now we're a rain or Shine kind of cross.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Rain or Shine, man. I we used to go to
that one. It was probably the longest Fourth of July
parade I've ever been. How many kazoo bands can you
fit in a prade?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
That's I just don't know, because it doesn't seem like
that praise that long. But five thousand pops goes later,
we're still short.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
You're still short.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah, So I think we've just got to I don't know,
but probably we got to keep buying more and more.
I love that there was a whole freezers chest.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Up the fourth the picture I saw Dev was in
the back of the truck helping with popsicle.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Yeah, and you know, in the I think people are
starting to realize that we do give popsicles. So like
all of a sudden, the street looks like it's wide
open as soon as as soon as we get up
to it. We barely get our truck and the horse
through and stuff because it's He's like, oh, this is
like a mob situation.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Man, people people want the popsicles, and you ran out again,
so you got to go maybe six thousand were.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Like, well, maybe we have to get a double freezer
or something. I don't know, get a trailer freezers. But anyways,
one of your fans, Janie Anderson, says, well, to make
sure I give you this, uh it said, it's a
Bailey's brownie and it's rose pedal jam And that is awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Who gave this to me?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Janie M Anderson, she's one of your fans.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
That's awesome, Jane, thank you very much. I'm getting maybe
open it during the break.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Who knows I some of that, Jam, I mean I
didn't have any yours?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Okay, good? Yeah, it looks full.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, I got my own boy had a boy. Well
I should have should support a half your order, say
she just gave me half a job.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Trust me, I would have caught you on that. I
would have caught you our special guest. It's good to
see him again. It's been a bit since he's been
a studio with us. He is Dave Harley. He is
the owner, president, chief everything officers. What I got from
the website advanta Clean, Advantage Clean is of badger Land.
So that's here in Brookfield, Wisconsin. And boy, they do.
(02:27):
They do a lot of things and we're going to
get into a ton of them. Dave, how you been.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I've been great.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Hey. How's business?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Business is good?
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, you guys busy, Yeah, we're busy. Now what is
the busiest part this time of year for you?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Probably mold.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
So people are calling saying, hey, there's a lot of
fear obviously with with mold and some of the things
that it can do to your health. And so people
are calling saying, look, we've got mold mostly in the
basement or.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
That's where most people find it themselves. Other ways they
find and it is when they go to sell their
house and they have a home inspection, the home inspector
finds it, say in the attic. Yeah, because they don't
go in the attic, they didn't know it was.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
There, or a naf's job of that leaks.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah. When you pick up a motor like this and
you be moisture media and you can't get am moisture
meating because there's no substrate.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Oh not good. That's that's always moldy and that's when
they call you. Yeah, what explain what mold is for
people that that look. I think all of us understand.
The first show we ever did with mold was Big O.
Your daughter came in.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Right, she's talking about molesey because there's so many different kinds.
He's well, he's one of those people that he can
tell you what the trillions and he can name them all.
He just looks at it.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Yeah, we don't have we only have an hour on
the show.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Some olds are good for you and some olds are not.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah. Can you give us a definition of what people
should be looking for and what maybe some people don't
see that they need to see.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well, it's it's typically a discoloration. Mold comes in every
color of the rainbow, but typically what people notice is
black mold because it's easiest to see. It's a little
round spots that will show up on the surface of
something like your water softener or your basement wall. It
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tends to start down low because people get water in
their basement and that water is drawn up by the
dry wall, and the drywall gets wet, and when it
gets wet, it becomes a prime source of mold.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, and it turns out too that not nobody is
affected by mold the same way. Some people just a
little part of it in their house and they can't breathe.
You know, it hurts. It hurts them. And you know
we've done shows that John, you know, from step Beyond Greene,
and some people get mold and it's there. There's also
toutors on an honest thing. I learned this from Dave
because yeah, you know, I'm a couple of presentations. There's
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like a white mold in people's basements that people don't
really pay attention to because there's like a little white
fuzz on a beam or a behind a dresser or
something in a basement. People don't pay attention to it,
but that's a mold.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Yeah. They think they can just either paint over it
or wash it and with bleach and it goes.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Wait, it doesn't, No, it doesn't, especially if it's on
a porous surface like wood or drywall, the paper of drywall.
If you use bleach on that, what's going to happen
is that active ingredient in the bleach is going to
sit on top of the substrate, on top of the wood,
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and the water bleach is ninety eight percent water. The
water is going to soak in and it's going to
end up feeding the.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Mold, actually actually making it worse.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
You're making it worse. Yeah, man's that's kind of scary. Guy.
I know that. Growing up, my grandmother and my mom
thought bleach could clean everything, right, I mean that's kind
of what they thought, and any any issues, especially in
the bathroom, they would use bleach, or they'd use comics,
or they'd use anything like that. And you get a
little but when you know more about it, as we
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do now, you can't use bleach to clean that.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
You can on a non porous surface like tile, bleach
will work because the water doesn't soak in and the
active ingredient on the top will kill the mold and
help you wipe it off.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
What how does mold grow? What? There are some things
that it needs to be able to grow. I know
temperature is one of them.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Correct, Yeah, it really needs four things. I typically say
three things, but there's a fourth. The fourth is it
needs spores. You need the mold itself to be there.
But mold is everywhere. So there's mold in this room,
we're breathing it. It's everywhere. Mold needs a temperature between
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forty and one hundred degrees so that's basically the indoor
temperature of your house.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
See like last week, we were safe because it was
blow forty degrees right, yeah? Safe? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, it took me all the way. I literally had
the heat onto my car going home last week. That's how. Yeah,
And Spencer's laughing at me because I used to be
a tough guy. I'm not tough anymore. It's just a wor.
You should be happy you're here this week because the
heat just kicked in. So in they Donovan and Jorgans
and heating and cooling studios. It's awesome. So let's go
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back to that. So what else does mold need to grow?
Speaker 3 (07:25):
It also needs a food source. Mold eats organic matter.
That's not living, so wood paper, that kind of thing.
And the fourth thing that it needs is moisture water,
and that tends to be the wild card. That is,
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what is causing the mold to grow in your attic,
in your basement is an excess of moisture. So if
you can control the moisture, you can control the mold.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Hey, people that have mold, what what are some of
the effects that maybe they don't know they have it,
but what are some of the effects health wise that
they need to pay attention to.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Well, mold is either allergenic, pathogenic or toxogenic.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
He's not. He's not toxics Like we mean, I can't
even spell me neither.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
But I keep we keep not toxic. That's why we
bring in.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
The expert allergenetic talk. Yeah, well absolutely, I was worried
about toxogenic.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Allergenic is causes allergy type symptoms, sneezing, itchy, watery eyes,
that kind of thing, hives. Pathogenic is it will cause
mold related illnesses. It can be anywhere from like an
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infection type thing to outright mold growing within your body.
Toxogenic mold is toxic. Uh, it creates micro toxins that
are actually dangerous and can kill you.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
If I asked you, how long have you been the
owner of Advantage.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Clean, I've been doing this about six years.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
So eight years ago. If I'm talking to you and
I said, hey, eight years, you're going to be sitting
on a radio show and you're going to know everything
there is to know about MULD, what would you have
said to me, You're nuts? And now look at you
just being bing. My goodness, the amount of information and
knowledge that you've had to figure out and learn when
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you bought this company, started this company here and in
the Brookfield area has to be incredible.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
It is. I mean there is a lot to learn.
I relearn a lot of it through the normal course
of business. I'll encounter something that I haven't encountered in
a number of years, and I'll end up having to
go back and relearn some facet of the business.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
It's incredible. Hey, where does mold in your home? Word?
Is there normal places that it grows or is there
typical places that it grows in the home?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Typical places are going to be any place that gets wet.
So where I tell people to look for it is
in the basement, especially if you have a finished basement,
look around the baseboards. If you've ever had a water
intrusion in your basement where you know, a sewers backed
up or some pumps overflowed or something like that, you
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need to look at underneath the carpeting. If you have
a musty smell, that can be an indication that you've
got excess moisture and a mold issue.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So the mothballs that my aunt used to put in
her closets all the time, that's not kind of No,
that's loss.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
There's also something too that you have a small amount
of time to your rid before guess where. Okay, let's
say you have like a plumbing leak in your bathroom
or leak's into your kitchen ceiling. Ay, what's going You
got like twenty four hours to remove it. After that,
mold will start to grow.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Man, You gotta be careful with all of that. If
somebody finds mold in their home, is there a way
they can test it or should they immediately call you?
Speaker 3 (11:24):
It's really best to call a professional. There are indoor
environmental professionals that specialize in mold testing and analysis where
they can come to your house. They can do a
battery of tests. They'll test the moisture levels of the
walls and the ceiling and the floor. They'll take samples
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of dust on surfaces, they'll take air samples, and they'll
look under a microscope and see what they know, what
sort of mold you have in the house.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Do you guys do that at a VANA clean? Do
you guys? We do, so you do the mold testing
and you'll and and removal. Yes, in both residential and
commercial buildings. Do you do more business and residential or commercial?
Speaker 3 (12:18):
We do more residential that we tend to do mostly
addicts and basements. That tends to be where the mold is.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
But we've.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Worked on a number of kitchens this year where the
dishwasher leaked and the mold grew behind the cabinets. The
unfortunate thing with that is you end up having to
take out all the cabinets. So some people that have
recently done their kitchen, we're in there turning it out out.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Oh that's got it. Just it keeps you up at night,
you know, having to do that. What other things you
guys offer, And we're going to get into some of
those and I'm more in detail and chech in two
and three. But let's talk a little bit about some
of the other things that you guys do.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Well.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
The easiest way to remember what we do is think
of the word wammo okay, w a m o. W
is water. We do emergency water clean up and drying.
That's you know, drained backs up, toilet overflows, what have you.
We'll come and clean it up and dry it out.
A air ducts we do air duct cleaning, air conditioning,
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coil cleaning, dryer, vent cleaning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Don't do something discussing did our house, Well, it hasn't
done probably since they built it, right right, Yeah, they
find a lot of stuff in those things.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Yeah, I bet we we had diamond joriansho. We had
to do a uh came out and did our vent
for our dryer because we bought a condo that was flipped,
bought a new washer dryer. They couldn't get the old
dryer out because they made the doors. Oh no, yeah,
so I got to have Bengo come take a look.
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My wife on like two days ago. My wife was like,
you know, when we get a new dryer, you have
to ask Bengo to come look at how we can
get the door off and get the dry old one out,
get the new one in. I said, yeah, just let's
hope the vent, let's hope the dryer works for a while.
Let's just push that can down the right down the
street a little bit. But you guys offer that. Do
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you guys do a lot of duck cleaning?
Speaker 3 (14:23):
Uh? Yeah, we do. We do a lot of residential
duck cleaning. We do some commercial. We do a lot
of dryer events. We'll do entire apartment complexes and five
hundred dryer events.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Well, in my condo, they call the lady and she said,
who handles our condo? And she said, yeah, we had
the events cleaned out like in March. And the guy
I had her on speaker and the guy said, did
they come in everybody's condo and blow it out? Well, no,
they went on the roof and they blew it in,
which is just a way the money, And that's the
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reason we had to have somebody else come out and
do it. Hey, so m would be for mold the world.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
And oh is odors? Okay, we do odor elimination and
odor control, so pet odors, cigarettes, smoke, We have methods
of helping people.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Well, Spencer just said that'd be great on Talk one night.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
There you go, yeah, yes, you did say.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
That people that buy houses or want to buy a
house that somebody smoked in for twenty five years and
the walls are brown with tar and that kind of thing.
We can come in and we can clean that up.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
And I've seen that he's talking about people and then
people trying to paint it paint over those those holes
where guys that chain smoker for our whole entire life.
It just bleeds right through.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Yeah, you can't.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You can't buy a special paint, you know, falls advertisement.
This paint is great for uh for orders or mold or.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Well, the one paint that that look we had talked
about is it kills k I l Z great for stains.
Mold is not a stain. And it says right on
the product. I mean, people think that they could use
that product and that's going to eliminate the mold and
it comes back in a month or something.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
Right, I can't tell you how many times will go
up in an attic that's been painted with Kills and
it's the mold is just coming through everywhere.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
They spray it on and you know, and they don't
solve the problem. They just they cover it up. They
covered it up and still in there.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
And it says right on the product that it's not
designed for that. But people still believe that.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Well because it says on the label part kills, you know,
for mold or something. Right, yeah, right, But then you
read the next page. This does not remove bald part
of the label.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah. The amount of times that you've seen that has
got to be incredible. Oh yeah, my goodness. Hey, guys,
let's get to a break the other side of the break.
Let's talk about you will go into the older part
and what are the you guys can eliminate common orders
and we'll talk about musty odors in the basement, cat
and dog problems and new paint orders, stuff like that.
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If you're interested, you can go to their website. It's
a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com. Vanta Clean of
badger Land dot com. Excuse me. They are located in
Brookfield phone numbers two six two four three seven seven
three three zero four three seven seven three three zero,
And I trust me Dave Harley can answer any questions.
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And if eight years ago he would have been like
what are you talking about? But today he's got all
of it. And I did get a text. By the way,
I want to thank Aaron's mom, Jane. That's who she is.
I didn't know that, Janny. Thanks for the gifts. I
really appreciate it. You got you got a really nice boy.
Did a nice job with that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
You think I just grabbed some from some stranger in
the parking lot and just hand me and say here,
eat this.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
Well, I didn't know who she was. I've met her
a few times, but yeah, man, I appreciate that a
lot and depth. Thanks for the text. I appreciate that well.
On the other side of the break will continue our
conversation with Dave Harley again. He is the owner, president
and chief everything officer. I like that line. By the way,
that's a big business card you have from Avanta Clean
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of badger Land and you can go to Advantacleanofbadgerland dot
com for more information on his company. This is the
Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports ninety
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the Donovan and Jorgansen Heating and Cooling Studios. Any issues
you have with your HVAC system. Donovan Jorgenson dot com
the largest employee owned HVAC company in the state of Wisconsin.
And what does that mean for you? Anybody you have
coming over to your house to help you with your
HVAC system is one of the owners of Donovan Jorgenson. Again,
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go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com. I'm Mike McGivern alongside
Bingo Emmons, the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin, and our
special guest he is Dave Harley Advanta Clean Owner, President
and Chief Everything Officer. Go to Advanta Clean of Badgerland
dot com, located in Brookfield off one hundred and twenty
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seventh Street. So, Dave, let's we were going to talk owners,
but let's go back to duck cleaning real quick, and
let's talk about kind of when when people need to
think about having it done. It's not something that Look,
I have maintenance on my EIGHTHVAC system and they come
out twice a year just to make sure the air
conditioners working, make sure that furnace is going to work.
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Talk to me about when people should how often you
should have your duck cleaning done.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The National Association of Duck Cleaners recommends every two years.
I tell people that's that's a little more frequent than
I think you need to. I would go every four years.
Unless you've got somebody in the house that has asthma
or breathing issues, that kind of thing, and you have pets,
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you'd probably benefit from going closer to the two years.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
But between two and four years you get a reaverage.
Person does it zero times.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Right, Oh yeah, yeah, because you just don't think about
it until you're forced to think about it, and it's
eventually going to save you some money if you do
it every two to four years, because if you never
do it once you need it. Now that's a big job, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
When we do it. To Bingo's point, it is amazing
how much stuff we can get. We can fill two
or three five gallon pails with the dust, dirt, and
debris that comes out of air ducts.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Hey, when you air ducts, did you do condos? Do
you work with condos? Because you see you had talked
about apartments a little bit earlier. More difficult in condos
because it seems like in our condo. I don't know.
There there's some things. When I had the people at
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Dinavan Jordans to come out to do the the dryer
one to do the rest of the ar condo, I
think there's there's some issues for them.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
To do that. Yeah, it's it tends to be difficult
because the furnace is small, it's tucked away tightly in
a closet. Yep, there's little to no access. What we
do is we will what's called reverse clean it. So
normally we would hook up a vacuum to the furnace
itself and then we would push all the dirt and
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everything to that vacuum. In reverse cleaning, we go to
the vent and we clean from the vent side, okay,
and we use a whip to pull the stuff that
is in the ducks to the vacuum.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Hey, and when people get that done, and again you
recommend two to four years, every two to four years
to get it done, I've got to believe that that
really helps their efficiency from their system, saving energy, saving money,
all of the above. Correct, Yes, it does. Yeah, I
think that's important for people to understand that, right, Yeah,
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to be able to understand and then if somebody says
to you, like, what is the benefit, Why do I
need to get my ducks cleaned? What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Well, I tell them just what we've been talking about.
It's going to help you to breathe easier because you're
going to have less particulate matter being blown around by
your air conditioning system. Or you're a furnace, it's going
to make the furnace more efficient, it's going to make
it run cooler and quieter. It just as a general
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benefit overall.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Hey, how much business do you do in the older
part where people get you know, when when you think
about musty odors in your basement or even you know,
new paint order that you can't get rid of. How
much of that you guys do You guys work in.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
We don't do a ton of it, but when we
do do it, it's a usually a pretty big job.
We recently worked on a house that was owned by
a hoarder. He passed away in the house. Unfortunately his
dog did too and nobody found him for a while.
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So the house had a pretty strong odor to it,
and we were able to knock that way back with
just doing one simple treatment. They just wanted to get
it so that you could spend time in the house. Yeah,
but we've worked on other houses where there's the cigarette smoke,
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like Bingo and I were talking about with the brown
tar outlines of where pictures used to have that kind
of thing. And we've been able to get rid of
the cigarette smoke smell completely.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
The pet urine and and and mold and sewage and
you have on your website and skunk smell, you guys
can get rid of that. Yeah, tomato juice, you don't
use tomato juice to Bingo knows.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
We have a little more about that. Happened my dog
when skunk once we did give him a tomato juice bathroom.
It actually worked, did it really?
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, it's not going to work in your house. I'll
think your seventh step process from vacuumting to treatment with
through a vapor and and your tie microbowl treatment. Talk
about the process when somebody calls you and says, look,
you know the the hoarder or somebody has been smoking
in this house for twenty years. Talk about that process
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that you guys use.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
What we first do is we attack the source, so
we identify the source of its pet odors it's understanding
where the pet was doing his or her business. Carpet, right, Yeah,
And you have to get rid of things like carpet
because you're never going to get it clean. So we
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attack the source first. Then we'll go after the stains
and that sort of thing. So, like in the cigarette
smoke example, we'll wash down the walls with a product
that we have that neutralizes the tar and gets rid
of the smell. From there, we'll do a vapor treatment
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where we'll release a vapor in the home in the building,
and that vapor is super tiny molecule that gets into
the pores of the walls and the floors and the
ceilings and it kills the odors at a molecular level.
It's an oxidizer and it takes care of the mold
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or not well mold and the odors at a molecular level.
And then from there we'll go through and we'll fog
with an anti microbial that'll kill any germs and stuff
that's left.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Can you spell that one?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
I mean he always does that.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, we're gonna start calling him by doctor Dave. I think, hey,
I got a text with somebody. Going back to our
first segment, if they have a small patch of mold
in their basement. Can they clean that themselves.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
If it's really small, Yeah, they probably could.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Should they wear the mask and the gloves and the
whole bit.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Yeah, yeah, I would get an anti mold, anti microbial
sorry bingo at a big box store minards are home
depot that kind of thing they have. There's one by Conchrobium.
Speaker 2 (27:26):
There are do you know I'm not saying Bleach.
Speaker 1 (27:29):
No, he's not.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
He's not the average person. I think Bleach will do it.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
And that's what this text was. Look, that's what they
thought that they should use until they heard you talk
in the first segment. But there's a product if they
go to a big box store and what's the name
of it.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
There's one called Conchrobium. There's another one called wet it
and forget it. You need to be patient with these
because they're not at the they're not quote unquote professional strength.
They're strong enough to get get rid of the mold,
but it'll take some time.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So they needed to wipe it down a number of
times before it works.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
Yeah, yeah. If the product, if it's bigger than a
small patch, how big would you recommend that they call you.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
I would say if it's ten square feet, if it's
over ten square feet.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
To give us.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
There's a lot of companies they can't do over ten
square feet. Yeah, I mean restoration companies. Right, they can't
do it if it's over ten square feet because it's
it's a it's a different qualification. And that's true.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
So they if they come to the house and it's
over ten feet, they got to tell you to call
somebody else.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
I'm talking about I'm doing in those groups, it was
a service master of the exact like this is, we
can't do it because it's over ten square feet because
some people can't do it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, that's when you give David. Yeah, it's right. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, I'm just saying if if if those people can't
do over ten square feet, maybe you shouldn't try to
do it either.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yeah, that's a really good point. I agree with that.
How many how many employees do you have?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I have six employees and and all of them out
on Well, I have four guys in the field excellent
that are doing the jobs. I have one gentleman who
is an estimator, so he goes out and estimates for people,
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does the inspection, gives them guidance and what they can do,
and uh, he'll write up a proposal for us to
do the work for them. And then I have an
administrative assistant.
Speaker 1 (29:45):
That's awesome. Good for you. It's good to look. I
think last time we had you, and I think he
had four employees or five. I don't know if you've
you you're growing a little bit, but I love that.
What territory do you do? You cover?
Speaker 3 (29:58):
We cover all the southeastern Wisconsin. So we'll go if
you draw a circle one hour drive from Brookfield, yeah,
we'll we'll go there. So we'll go to Sheboygan. We'll
go to Fox Valley.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, yeah, don't go in our east because that's where
water damage comes in. If I certainly took an OSHA
and you'll you'll do that. Hey, how much business do
you guys do with the water damage restoration? We had
when we were on eighty eighth Street, our basement got
flooded a couple of times, and the first time we
didn't have insurance, So we're My wife and I were
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down with a mask and the and the gloves and it.
We were up all night cleaning that it was backup
sewer water and immediately put it on, it got insured
in two years later it happened again and then we
had somebody that could come do it. Funny part about
that the we I was up all night cleaning it,
and that that next day in the evening, my wife
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and I tickets to wicket Right. She wants to see
it Broadway show down town right, Broadway across America. I
was snoring so loud that we had to leave before
intermission and ended up having to get tickets for the
next time it came, and made sure I stayed awake
the whole time. But boy, what a nightmare that was
to have to do that on our own. Yeah. How
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much of that kind of business do you guys do?
Speaker 3 (31:20):
It's about ten percent of our business is water damage
and it varies from We see a lot of some
pump failures. I mean, that's advice I can give is
check your some pump a couple times a year.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Do it.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
You know, when you change the batteries and your smoke
detectors go down and make sure that your some pump
is working, Get a battery backup, get a redundant pump
so you have two pumps. If your some pump runs
a lot when it rains. You really need to do
that because we've seen a ton of houses.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
You know, Dave, you're giving tips for people where they're
not going to have to use you. That's pretty nice. Yeah.
You know, the more people that take your advice and
what you just said, if they do that, they probably
are not going to need you to come and help them.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
It's like, you know, it's like clean your events. A
lot people don't check their sub pumps right and they
find out about it when it's always too late. Yeah,
and sometimes I heard it go on, but that doesn't
mean it's pumping.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Does not mean it's pumpy. Yeah. I think that's really
really good advice.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
I do.
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Hey, Dave, let's get to a break. Other side of
the break will continue. I got a few more questions
when it comes to water damage because I think just
because I've been through it a number of times and
it's just a nightmare. It's just a nightmare. And we're
going to get your advice and a couple of questions
when it comes to that. Again, he is Dave Harley.
He is the owner, president, chief everything officer. I just
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like that line. By the way, at Vanta Clean, you
can go to a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com.
A Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com located in Brookfield.
Their territory is about an hour from Brookfield, so southeast Wisconsin.
They're here to help you and you can give them
a call anytime and get ahold of Dave and he'll
answer questions for you. He certainly knows a lot about
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this industry. This is the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home
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Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin
home improvement show, coming live from the Donovan to Jorgensen
Heating and Cooling Studios. I want to thank Spencer good music,
good bumper music. Will stay away from the one song
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that we had talked about, Spencer, but everything else fair game.
I Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emans. He's the owner of
Creative Construction of Wisconsin. Our special guest man is he knowledgeable?
He is Dave Harley. He's the owner, president of Chief
Everything officer at Avanta Clean. And you can go to
a Vanta Clean of Badgerland dot com for more information.
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Hey Davis, somebody calls you your company on Monday shuts
up an appointment. Can we talk about the process and
the timing right now? If somebody wants you to come out,
is it, is it a day, is it a week?
How long does it and will it take for for
you guys to be available to come see somebody.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
What we do is we have a customer service center
that will set an appointment for you on your desired day,
and then my estimator will call you and firm up
a time based on his calendar that day and your calendar.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Or does he work evenings as well? Yeah, okay, yeah,
I think that's important because if people are at work
and and they come.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
With well mostly yeah, most of these disasters usually happen
on a holiday, right what you do it seems that way.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah, it's five thirty on a Friday night. That's that's
why that's get the water damage calls. It's five thirty
on a Friday night.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Well, and you you guys are time wise right now,
if somebody calls on Monday, if they have if they
see mold in the basement, let's just use that one
where it's not I guess it is an emergency, but
it's not like they have water in their basement. How
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long would it be to get to get your crew
out there, to get people to come on and help.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
Usually within two days okay, eight hours. Wow, we can
get you in if it's really urgent. Say, for example,
you had a home inspection, you're scheduled to close in
a week, and the home inspector found mold and the
buyer wants it taken care of before closing. We can
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fit you in. I mean, we'll shoehorn you in.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
Se Do you guys offer emergency service. We do.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
We offer twenty four by seven emergency service. For water.
I'm not going to come out there for attic mold, No.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Yeah, at eight o'clock on a Sunday night.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
No. No, But for for water for water damage?
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yes, Well when you when when we talk water damage,
what is the most common water coming like ours? Was not?
I don't think common backup sewer water and they find
city and walk you finally fix the sewers in our neighborhood.
Never happened again, but didn't take credit for when it
happened the two times before they fixed the the uh,
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the sewers outside. What is the most common with with
with waters in the basement?
Speaker 3 (36:33):
Yeah, it is typically the basement. In the summertime, what
the most common we see is the some pump, some
pump fails and the crack overflows and you get water
all over the basement. In the winter, it's frozen pipes.
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Hey, hey, bingo, if I how much do you guys
work together? Do you get? Could you get called in
from from.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Day to well, sometimes we'll get a call, like you say,
for a kitchen ceiling or something right, and we take
it apart and we go, oh, you got mold in here.
You got to you gotta have someone come and take
care of that. Like you said, anything over you know,
ten square feet or six square feet. You know, you're
not supposed to try to do it yourself because you
can't just like just spray something over it. You gotta
put microobia growth. We didn't want in Franklin when we
had to take the wall off, we had to wait
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for the moisture out of the wood to get down,
get down like fourteen or something, because if the wood
moisture is anything over twenty or more, that's that can
grow mold. So when you first put the meter on
there and we're getting you're getting like eighteen nineteen for
the meters. They're like, Okay, you gotta wait for it
to dry out and then the spray it. Then they
clean it, and then you spray with the antimicrobia growth.
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So I can say that good for you. Yeah, they'll
spray with that.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
Practice.
Speaker 2 (37:45):
Yeah, they'll spray with that, and then you gotta wait
four hours for that to dry it and we can
actually start covering these walls back up.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Hey, it said depending on the age of the house,
do you see more in real older houses or more
in the newer ones.
Speaker 3 (38:03):
We actually see more mold in newer houses. And the
interesting thing about that is it's it's because the building
envelope then the space contained within the building is so
tightly sealed these days with all the you know things
that they use.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
Let's tell the example, right, you see an old home,
right when you go visit like an old home or something,
you know, you get like nose bleeds because they're so dry.
You get to add you're adding moisture to the air,
right April air and add and all that stuff trying
to get the moisture back in the air. You get
a new home and you get dehumanifiers or running in
a winter time with those homes because because every time
you cook something at moistures trapped, you take a shower
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to moistures trap.
Speaker 1 (38:44):
You know. Randy Miller talked about that one time when
we're talking about some of the things like ice dams
and stuff like that, and how these the newer homes
are sealed up so tight, and and that's.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Here's the deals. Their seals so tight. It's not not
that you know, it's supposed to the sill lip will
type of water can't come in. But when water gets in,
it can't go ow, it can't get out. Then that's
when it becomes a disaster for Dave the fix.
Speaker 1 (39:10):
Hey, how long have you owned and being been a
part of Vana clean since when six years? Six years
and your first thirty years you were in finance and investment.
So that's why it's so fascinating to me how much
knowledge you have in this industry. Did you know what
you were getting into when you decided to move over
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to this industry.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
No, not exactly. I mean I knew. One of the
things that I had always wanted to do is I
had always wanted to work with my hands, do something
practical where I could help people, and you know, maybe
occasionally swing a hammer or do something, and advanta clean
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appealed to me because of the product. You know, you
got to deal with mold no matter what the economy is,
no matter what the stock market's doing.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
Yeah, you have no choice. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta
either Emily or Jennifer getting involved in the business.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
Emily was a technician for me for the first couple
of years I was in the business. Okay, And to
this day, I say she was the best damn technician
I ever had.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
Wow. And then she decided to move on, or.
Speaker 3 (40:25):
She decided to get married and go to school and
all those things, and I couldn't couldn't stop her.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Well, and those are good things. You're right, if you know,
if she wanted to leave the leave the family business
for because she wanted to be a professional poker player,
I would have a problem. But to get married and
and uh I go back to school. Did did the
kids live in this area? No.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
Emily lives in Nebraska. She went to University of Nebraska
for grad school and stayed with her husband, and Jennifer
lives in Minneapolis. She went to University of Minnesota and
stayed After a.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
Couple of Big ten Girls. Huh Yeah, how about Anne
is Is she involved?
Speaker 3 (41:12):
She's involved from the standpoint that she has to deal
with all this stuff. Yeah, I'm dealing with well.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
I always say in my other show, there's a special
place in heaven for coaches wives. There's a special place
in heaven for guys that own their own business and
their wives who you know, you would say, no, she's
not on the payroll, but where they're involved. I just
had to fire my secretary a couple of weeks ago
for the mcgiffern agency, and my wife, Terry didn't even
know she was my secretary. But she's still my personal assistant, Dave,
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and I've got to keep her, uh, keep her doing
that kind of stuff. When you look at twenty twenty
five and the future of your company looks right to you.
Like you said, I mean, the things we're talking about,
people are going to need no matter what's happening in
our world, right. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (42:02):
There's a new awareness of mold and the issues that
it causes, the health issues that it causes. In the
medical community. It used to be mold related illnesses weren't
diagnosed or were misdiagnosed, and doctors are spending more time
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learning about mold and the effects of mold, and learning
about the importance of remediation and getting rid of the
mold out of people's homes with businesses.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Is there a way people can prevent mold growth in
their home.
Speaker 3 (42:40):
It's control the water it make sure you've got adequate ventilation.
Bingo mentioned the april airs, you know, make sure that
it's running properly. Oftentimes we'll see april airs that people
haven't paid attention to you.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
They have that you know, a cartridge, right, I've seen this, right,
do you have a cartoon? You pull it out and
it's it's mold on there. Right, there's like molding your
system and it's actually blowing it through the house.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
You've seen some some scary things at that. Yeah, yeah,
I I When you go into these you a lot
of times you're not exactly sure what what you're going
to see. Hey, on the day to.
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Day thing about you know, being a mold guy like this.
I'm sure this isn't like dinner talk.
Speaker 1 (43:25):
No, no, no, you're not talking this uh at at
at dinner for sure, And and this isn't something that
you want to deal with. There's nothing there's nothing sexy
about this. Right, you paid your house, or you get
new wash or dryer, or you're getting you know, if
you redo your kitchen.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
You want people to I seen him like when I
see him like, you know, because I've been in a seminars.
He does all right. He knows what the name of
everyone is like and there's there's there's so many different
molds and he's all excited he can name them all to.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Be that Wayne State kind of graduated, right that did
you go to school there?
Speaker 3 (43:58):
Yeah, it's Wayne's. I got my MBA at Wayne State? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (44:01):
What was that like? It was?
Speaker 3 (44:03):
It was an interesting time because all of my classmates
either worked for Ford, Chrysler or GM. Yeah at the time.
I did this in the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
Where where is Wayne State?
Speaker 3 (44:16):
It's in Detroit. I actually went to a satellite Okay,
but it was a great experience.
Speaker 1 (44:26):
I've a brother has a house in Birmingham.
Speaker 3 (44:28):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Chrysler was his big account when he was with Bi
and my brother Jim and his wife Catherine live in Sarasota,
but bought a summer home in Birmingham because he can't
take the heat in Florida. It's like it's horrible, and
so they they they're in Michigan right now and we're
going to go over in September, play little golf and
hang out. But he loves that area and Chrysler was
(44:52):
his big account. And certainly Wayne State. When you said
all your classmates they all worked at some auto place,
how think in that area, No doubt you were coming
back here. Not similar to your kids when they go
to school somewhere, they stay in that area. But you
always knew you wanted to come back.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
I did want to know I wanted to come back,
and uh, my company at the time I was with
Pain Weber had an opening in Milwaukee office, and so
I jumped on it.
Speaker 1 (45:26):
Hey, winter, summer, fall, spring, what's the busiest busiest season
for you?
Speaker 3 (45:33):
Probably summer and early fall. Our businesses heavily reliant on
the real estate markets. So when the real estate markets suffer,
we suffer. When the real estate markets boom, we boom.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Is it booming now?
Speaker 3 (45:52):
It's booming now?
Speaker 1 (45:53):
Yeah? Yeah. A condo or two condos in the condo
complex that I'm living and went up for sale, and
I think both sold within a week, I mean, and
that tells me that things are starting to pop again
a little bit. And that's that's good for your business.
Did you see in twenty twenty six? And maybe expanding
(46:14):
The amount of people you have working for you is
six a really good number.
Speaker 3 (46:18):
Six is a good number. But I would like to expand.
I'd like to get four trucks on the road.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
So what does somebody have to the knowledge they have
to have? Do you need somebody's experience or somebody who's
willing to learn and work hard.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
I need somebody that's willing to learn and work hard,
and that is very customer focused. We're extremely customer focused.
The customer comes first. Their experience is the most important.
So that's that's what's most important to me. I can
teach them the old stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, well, Bingo, and you heard Bingo with some of
the words that you were using. We're just right off
the tip, yeah, right out. He can't spell any of them,
but he can he certainly can pronounce him.
Speaker 3 (47:07):
So I'm gonna start putting Bingo in addics.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
There. There you go. That's awesome, Bingo. It's good to
see you have a great weekend.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
Yep, yeah you too. And a happy fourth they're lying
for the twitter and fiftieth you should be the you
should be in a pray for the twinter in fifty.
We put you in the back of the truck. You
can help with the popsile. Well, Devil'll be back there
with that's gonna be a big one. Yeah, back there
with me.
Speaker 1 (47:26):
I will I will follow her, for sure, I will
follow her. It's good to see you, David. It's good
to see you again. Good yeah, good luck again. You
can any questions you have when it comes to what
Avanta Clean does go to advanta Clean of Badgerland dot
com located in Brookfield and if you give them a
call on Monday, Dave will call you back and trust me,
he will answer any questions you have. Two six two
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four three seven seven three three zero. Guys, have a
good weekend.
Speaker 3 (47:54):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
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