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April 5, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
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(00:22):
the state, and they'll take good care of you. I'm
Mike McGivern alongside my co host. He's the owner of
Creative Construction of Wisconsin. These bingo emmins, Bingo, Ho are
you doing now?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
We're doing good. We're doing good. You know, most of
our guys are all working outside. Oh, I beten between
the rain drops. We're trying to get as much as
we can. Sonny gets caught, you know, trying to get
caught up. You know that last Yeah, real warm last
Friday we had. Yeah, it's just every just declared, Okay,
it's warming up the wall side.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Now let's go.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
But I mean, if you look at the weather, it's
not I mean, when we do like East Repair, that's
gonna be threety eight degrees at night, you know, so
we can do cement repairs down to twenty five. But
I mean there's somebody's you know, it's people.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Be patient. We'll get there. He warms up. We'll get there.
A lot of rain too, Yeah, and the rain doesn't help.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
No. I went out and played golf yesterday, went out.
I went to Songbird and I was the first one,
first one when they opened it up, and I waited
for a while but nobody had come through, and I
was going to just go play nine on my own.
And I got to the sixth hole and I hit
a really good shot and a guy who I met
out at Songbird sent me a text, Hey, I found

(01:28):
out Songbird's open today. You want to play nine? I go,
I'm already on hoole six. If you get here by noon,
I'll play another night with you. I'm store today, bingk,
I'm too old. I just haven't played. And so it was.
It was beautiful out there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
I was talking to Zach this morning on the way
over here, and I'm thinking like, okay, well, I get
he's called me because on the way to go golfing
he's actually went out and it's going to Burlington to
pick up trees or something.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
Because you know whatever, his new house. He's gotta get trees.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
But uh, but I'm literally excited about is Austin Green
is racing Infinity Race.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
I can ask you about that. Yeah, I uh, he's he's.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
The son of David Green and you know yeah, and then,
uh so we're really excited about that.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
He's got pink car number thirty two. I know you
can be watching.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
I have him in my fantasy NASCAR's a Nascar, right, yeah, yeah,
that's what it is. So our special guest in studio
today turns out that we know a lot of the
same people. I've known Joe for a long time, and uh,
i'd see him in Jim's a lot, I can tell
you that. And uh I think I think I saw
him get teed up once or twice and thrown out

(02:35):
of the gym. Maybe that wasn't him. It could beat
Joe Meyer. He's the owner of You Build a Custom
Home and Homes and Renovations. Also the president of m
B A man. You're your security guys outside it's sunglasses
and they wouldn't let me talk to you until they
got you in the building. Well, you've taken this whole
president thing, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
But then you went around to go your first again,
I'll come.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Let's just say, Bruce ask me to Okay, Hey, Joe,
how are you good? How I'm doing really well? How family?
Everybody's good.

Speaker 4 (03:10):
Everybody's good. Yeah. You still hit a jump shot not
very well, but I don't know if it's jumping anymore.
It's a shot, it's a whole lot of jumping.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, it'd been more horse than than five on fu exactly.
That's awesome. How are things over at you build It?
You guys obviously doing really good work. And you've been
doing this for a while with you Build It. How
long has it been for you?

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah? We started you build It back in two thousand
and six. And as I recall, I think my first
radio spots I bought in the market were from you
back in two thousand and seven or maybe even six, probably,
so you were on my first experience.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And uh, you know, there's one outstanding payment. Let me
see we send that in.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
I think it was but the interest in two thousand Yeah,
and interest now.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
You only you know eleven hundreds that could be no,
not at all. Hey, before working and owning and running
you build it, what did you do prior to that?

Speaker 4 (04:04):
I was a sales and marketing guy kind of by trade.
After I graduated from Lacrosse, ended up actually getting a
job with Hormel Foods, and I sold spam and chili
right out of college. So that was the big job.
And I moved to Dallas, Texas originally, and then ended
up in Portland after that selling spam and uh So

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that lasted a couple of years, and then I ended
up my wife, or my current wife, my only wife,
my first and last wife. Hopefully. She had a job,
got a job in Indianapolis after she got out of
college out of Lacrosse, so I ended up moving there
because her job was a lot better and she sold
bowling equipment, so she was a All American bowler. Yeah,

(04:49):
and so Lacrosse was a hotbed for bowling back in
the day. Yeah, and so she yeah, sold for AMF
bowling equipment right out of college.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
You know, I had no idea how big bowling is.
High school A year ago or two years ago, maybe
last year, we did a one hour on high school
bowling and a kid from Greendale came in. He got
like a green field, he got like a full ride
to linden Wood, And I'm like what, And he said,
you have no idea, and I said, I don't. He
was averaging like two twenty five and could crank the

(05:20):
ball and and I'm like, I had no idea. But
bowling's huge.

Speaker 4 (05:24):
So it's interesting. They got the two handed shot now
and it's become a thing, and so I think that's
gonna you know, I think that's attracting people because anybody
can do it now, you know, before you kind of
need to have.

Speaker 2 (05:34):
A It's actually starting to come back on TV. Now
you got the guy with the hair and you know, yeah,
you know see NFS one.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Now they've tried to you know, when after Pete Weber
got done. I can't believe that I can pull that
in ame. But you know, Pete Weber used to yell
at people and yell at the guy who was bowling
against and yellowt people in the crowd. And I found
that Marshall Homi used to do the same. And I
used to find that really interesting, and then all of
a sudden it got a little bit boring, but that
that's cool. I worked in the food industry before I

(06:03):
got into radio, Yeah I did. I worked for a
food broker, so I sold the State of Wisconsin sold it,
you know, Roundies and century and end up at Shop
Co and all over. So hey with You Build It.
And we're going to talk a lot about the spring
tour that you are the president over at to Metropolitan
Builders Association. They've got a spring tour going on this

(06:26):
weekend and next weekend. It started last weekend. We've got
two more weekends from twelve to four the next couple
of days, and we're going to get into that throughout
the show. But I wanted to kind of get a
little bit You Build It, a little bit about the
mission statement and what I really like. And I think
this makes a lot of sense to me is on
your website you talk about look you if you want

(06:49):
to do this on your own, you can't. You can
do it, but most people are going to need direction
in it, and let us be the people that can
direct two in different areas. And I think that there
are a lot of people that think they have the
skill set to go out and purchase the land and
build this custom home because they watch some TV shows

(07:12):
and they read a few things on that and they go, well,
I can do that.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
Well, they can build a house in seventeen minutes yeah,
and we're really fast.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
Really fast. And you know then they say, look, this
is what it cost you three hundred thousand, but now
it's worth four hundred and fifty.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Well, really, I never get I never get those customers
that they get, they go they, oh my gosh, this
doesn't cost you an ext one hundred thousand dollars. I
never reae those customers like, okay, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
You know Joe, you know how I know that I
couldn't do it on my own because we, uh, my
wife and I. All we had to do. We were
having new cabinets put in our kitchen. All way to
do is pick out the hardware. And I went in
the fetal position in the car.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Right, you couldn't do it, could you.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Well, you put three in front of me and I
can choose, but if you give me a thousand choices,
I can't do it. I'm one hundred percent irish, and
my final decisions at all was maybe right, and I'm like,
I can't do it. I knew that moment that I
couldn't do I would need you build it to help me.
In all this talk a little bit about when somebody

(08:14):
comes to you and says, okay, we have the land
now we want to start to build, but we're we
need some direction. How does you build it? How do
you guys get involved at that point? And how much
or how little do you do with each of these customers.

Speaker 4 (08:29):
We do a lot. So if you think about our process,
you know, we're really uh, you know, we're really eighty
ninety percent of what a typical custom home builder does.
So you know, all of our houses are customed, they're
all a one off. I've built, you know, three hundred
different two thousand square fet ranches over the years, so
everything is the way you want it. And you know,

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the biggest part of our job is just guiding you
through the process from land all the way through, and
the key is trying to figure out how to get
your house us into the budget you're looking to achieve.
And we have a lot of different price points that
people come to us with. And you know, that two
thousand square foot house could cost you four hundred thousand

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or it could cost you one point two million. So
it's really up to the client to give us the
direction to get us where they want to go, and
our job is to get them there. And that's the
trick and that's that's the hard part about the process,
and that's why we are I think we're pretty good
at what we do.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Now one of those companies that just like, you know,
hear you ability, he doesn't like, here's your lot, he
takes some spray paint. Okay, now dig out this basement
with a shovel. We'll see you next year.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah. Yeah. A majority of my customers actually don't do
a lot. You know. The other part of the process
that people really are drawn to is the transparency. So
you know, with our process, we the client will see
every single bid that we get. The client has the
option to use their own trade partners if they'd like,

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and and then they get to see it all. And
so you know, one common complaint we hear about working
with nutritional builders. And there's a lot of great builders
in the area, so nothing bad about anybody, but they
people want more information. They want to see the actual
costs of things so they know that their granted is
really nine thousand dollars and if they want to find

(10:21):
something less expensive, they'd like to or or it's more expensive.
I don't know. But the transparency part of it is
what people really are drawn to, and they get to
see those costs if they want to reduce them. Well,
here's a list of seventy seven items in your house
that you can reduce.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
So see, you got lot of people want to do
stuff cheaper. But how do you get the person that
wants to keep adding upgrading.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
Well that's another part of our process that is it
really works well actually, because we do have a lot
of people that want to do something that's a little
one off. Let's say, and you know, maybe they want
to put a basketball hoop in the garage like some
people I know, or you know, a taller basement or
a golf pit in the basement, And we do a

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lot of those projects because the homeowner sees the real
cost of it versus seeing some sort of marked up
something something. You know, we don't mark anything up with
our process. So the cost you see is the cost
you pay. And again you the upgrades are not upcharged
like you would with a typical builder. So therefore you're

(11:25):
getting a lot of value for those upgrades.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Okay, so now I got I gotta do my weekly
basement dig, do you right? I mean, see see here
here's all the stuff you can put a basket hoop
in your basement if.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
I had a basement. And if my wife's listening, she's
rolling her eyes because the other day when the tornadoes
came through the Midwest, she said, we bought a condo
without a basement. Yeah, out out in Pewaukee, and she's
not happy we don't have a basement. Her sister lives.
I could hit maybe I couldn't, but some people could

(11:56):
hit a driver and hit her house from ours, so
we can go to her house. But my wife, anytime
there's any weather coming, she's like, building me a basement.
And I'm like, we're in a kinda where there's no
chance on filding your base.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
And now you can build on all the basketball I know.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
But what if she's listening. Now, I'm gonna start getting
Joe Meyer my name and number to have them call me.
But on your website, the line that I highlighted that
I think is really important second line in this paragraph,
are you looking for options beyond handing over total control

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to someone else or taking all the risk yourself? And
what I like about that line is if somebody is going, look,
I think I can do this, but there, boy, there
are some things that I don't I'm not quite sure
of what a perfect company to come to to say, listen,
I want to be I'm going to be the main
focus in this, and I think we can do a

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lot of it, but there are a lot of things
that we don't know a ton about other than going online.
And then I'm still going to be in total control
of this, or at least in control with somebody helping
me rather than me just handing it all off to somebody.

Speaker 4 (13:08):
Yeah, and so we are kind of again the happy
medium of between doleeting yourself and hiring a full service builder,
you might say. And so the the the process is
most of my clients don't want to be that too
involved because they just don't know and they're uncomfortable with

(13:30):
what they could be getting into. So with our process,
you know, I have three project managers managers that run
our jobs. They will do virtual everything if they need
to on these jobs. But the home rowner does have
the option to pick out the things they would like
to do or be involved with, and that's their part
of it. We have some clients that honestly don't do
anything besides write the checks and keep track of the money.

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And we have other clients that are intimately involved and
they will be doing We have bad guys do foundations.
We've had framers, we've had siders, had refers, we have
it all the above and it works really well.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
You might not answer this question what do you like
working with more the guy who is fully involved in
doing all a lot of the work himself or the
guys that just like to sit back and have recommendations.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Really, honestly, it doesn't matter. I just want. I like
people that can make a decision. As you said, your
your decision is maybe maybe. And that's a challenge when
you're building something because at some point I need a
plan and I need to let the guys my project
managers know what we're building. And if there's no plan
and things aren't approved, then we can't build. So as

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long as I'm can make a decision, it really doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
To a lot of times, the biggest delays of any
job is from waiting for someone to make a decision,
because there's still deciding this society. Because you know, they said, well,
well you got to know this. They said, well I
got to know it by next Friday, because that's when
they're starting on Monday. Well, we need to at the
end of the day of Friday, and so okay, I
think we got our colors now well.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Right the way too late.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
We had somebody come out. We're gonna we're gonna do
some work in our garage, right, single garage, single car garage.
But it just needs it needs some some stuff. And
and about a half hour before she came out, I
said to my wife, this is you. You know you
you you have a vision for this thing. I don't

(15:23):
like I wanted to look bad. I want it to
be better and more functional so we can get to things.
And it's not like we we can still get our
car in there, but to get out of the cars
a little bit hard for me, not so hard for
my wife because she's quite a bit smaller than I'm
But but I said to her, this is you. And
and she's very good at seeing things and how she

(15:46):
wants it and why it makes sense. She's also like, look,
they pitched us this, but I don't think we need it.
It's a little bit on the pricey side. And I
think if we do it ourselves. And I'm like, really, really,
have you seen me? Well you do a home improvement show.
I go, I know, but let's fire the right person.
The other line on your website, that just made a

(16:06):
bunch of sense to me. For many people, building a
custom home is an emotional investment. The process of building
a new home can be exhausting and overwhelming. You build it,
We've taken the mystery out of building. If I'm in
the process of thinking through this and I go to
your website and I read that this is a company

(16:28):
I'd want to work right with to say, listen, you're right,
it's not only an emotional investment, but it can be
really exhausting and overwhelming. I mean to put in to
do this garage idea is a little bit emotional and overwhelming.
For a guy like me, I just want to get
it done. And my wife's like, we might want to
bring a second option out. It's a little bit pricey

(16:50):
compared to what we thought, and they're telling us we
need this stuff and we really don't. So for me,
I'm like, let's just use somebody. But for for people
to come to you, the emotional investment and then exhausting
and overwhelming, and you guys take the mystery out of building,
I think that that for a guy like me makes
a lot of sense.

Speaker 4 (17:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's really you just break it down into
components and once you just you have a process in place.
And we got a fantastic process to get from a
raw piece of land, you know, through the design with
my planning staff and into bidding and selections. You know,
we got all covered. You know. Matt and Jamie at
my office do a great job on the front end

(17:31):
kind of shepherding the client, our clients through the process
of design, and then Lauren is our selections coordinator office
and she will work with them to get things selected.
So you just break these things down into different components
and it doesn't become nearly as overwhelming. And if you
have someone taking it down the path that knows the path,
it's really easy. Right You're going to you go found

(17:52):
the yellow big road, and we know where the road is,
so it works out really well for our clients to
get down that path.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
Yeah, okay, I'm thinking about no one how you're talking
about houses. Do you ever get something that's just out
there and someone asking to help build them build that stuff?

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Something that's just out there? What's the most funnest one.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
We've had a lot of things that are really out there.
I'm trying to think of the most unique one. We've
built a lot of interesting things over the years, and
a lot of it's interesting construction related details. You know
that we've built a fair amount of ICF houses or
insulated concrete forms over the years. We built a fair
amount of structurally insulated panel houses over the years. Just anything,

(18:34):
just and yeah, with a lot of interesting I'm glad.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I'm glad you said that because I was talking about
you guys this week. I had lunch with a woman
who has her own art gallery down on the side,
and I was explaining the ceiling that the artist brought
you guys in for where she wanted it to look
like like a meter came through the ceiling. So the
ceiling was perfectly fine and they had to bust it

(18:58):
all up.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
Yeah, we had to make it look like, you know,
like like an insurance claning basically, but with the media.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Coming through it right, And it was unbelievable the work.
And they have an artist basically an artists on staff,
and yeah, he was really good in here. But I
thought the ceiling they showed the before and after. Normally
the before and after it's really bad, then it gets
really good. It was perfect, but they had to bust
up the whole ceiling and make this lick. Yeah, it

(19:26):
was good stuff. Hey, our special guest, and we're going
to talk about the second segment. We're going to talk
about the NBA Spring Tour going on today and tomorrow
and then next Saturday and Sunday noon to four. Go
to NBA Spring Tour dot com. NBA Spring Tour dot com.
And who better to talk about this than the president
of NBA. He's Joe Meyer, also the owner of You

(19:49):
Build a Custom Homes and Renovations. If you want to
know more about that company, go to Brookfield dot you
Build It Brookfield dot you build It dot com. We're
going to get to a break other side, we'll touch
on the NBA Spring Tour. This is the Creative Construction
of Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty

(20:09):
in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction Wisconsin Home improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty
in yr iHeart Radio app. Coming live from the Donovan
and Jorganson Heating and Cooling Studios. I'm Mike McGivern alongside
Bingo Emmons. He's the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin and
our special guest in studio. We talked a lot about

(20:30):
the food broker industry and that him working for Horrmelo
long time.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
With potato pies, Potata pies.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
I sold a lot of truck full of those. Joe Meyer,
he's the owner of You Build a Custom Homes and
Renovations and the president of NBA. Before we get into
the spring tour, do you guys do more custom homes
or more on the renovation side?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Do you think we build more new homes? So, you know,
right now we've got about twenty seven houses I think production,
and so we build twenty five to thirty a year,
and well.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Twenty seven homes of production's kind of twenty seven homes.
It's kind of a slate.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
That's a huge slate. Yeah, how do you thank goodness?
You have a good team.

Speaker 4 (21:11):
Yeah, yeah, it's all about the team, right. So, and
we got a really good process and you know, three
project manages in the field again to planning consultants in
the office. Got a selection coordinator. Now, got some people
in the background that do great work with Jody and
Andrea that keep us moving forward. Joe also, uh in
my office does a lot of my front end, foundation

(21:31):
work and survey work. So yeah, we get all the
bases covered and it's just really about the process and
we've really tried to refine it and make it perfect
and every day is a continual process of improvement, and
you know, we find holes, we plug them, we move
on and try to get better.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
So yeah, it's a lot of that's a lot of jubbling.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
How many do you do a year?

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Then twenty five to thirty is normal.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
So hey, if I told you when you first started
the company twenty some odd years ago that there's going
to be a point that you're going to have this
many employees and you're going to do between twenty five
and thirty homes a year, would you have thought I
was out of my mind.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah. I don't think that was my goal to start.
You know, I'm a big fan of less employees, to
be honest, and so you know, I thought we could
run this thing with three or four of us for
a long time, and we did. And you know, I
heard Frank my first or my second project manager, and
he has been with me since two thousand and seven,

(22:32):
I believe, and then Jamie was right behind him in
two thousand and eight or so. So we've had the
three the two core members with me since then, and
they are fantastic and do a great job. And we
just have been adding kind of piece by piece slowly
over the years. And some people think I'm I'm slow
and plotting and just don't move very fast. But it

(22:56):
works and we've been super consistent, and we've always edged
upward every year since then. And it's just keep it going,
keep it going. And you know, there's other builders that
want to blow it up and go from ten to
fifty and I just don't see success doing that. So
and I'm not that smart, to be honest. So we
we we go along now at our pace and it
works well, and you know, we're hoping to grow and

(23:17):
continue to grow, and I think just consistency for me
is more important to keep the staff.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
But I'm still I'm still impressed with the whole twenty
seven homes. And then you had the time last Wednesday
to go, you know, talk to legislators about you know,
trying to get the prices of homes down, you know,
tell our breier.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
Yeah, last week, as a member of the NBA, we
got to go to Madison and go talk to some
state legislators and try to convince them why some of
the bills that are on the floor are good for
them to hoote for. And they're all housing related things
to try to get production of development or developments going

(23:54):
faster and for less money. And so, you know, we
are in a housing shortage right now, especial homes, and
the main problem is there's just not lots out there
for people to build on. And I think you talk
to any customer or any builder right now and they'll
say they have a pocket, a list of fifty people
that are looking for a new home, but they can't
find a lot to build on. So that's the core

(24:15):
of the problem. And without more lots, there's less competition
and therefore prices stay high. And until we do something
about that and get more lots built, more developments built,
I should say, we're going to be kind of stuck
here for a bit.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
Toby did a nice job.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Toby is the master of trying to work the angles
with the good man, with the senators and assemblymen and
assembly women, And yeah, he set us up and the
Building Association does a really good job working on behalf
of the builders to try to secure more business.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
With them, and we were like one political party move
because I was out there with them. We talked to
just as many demo guys we did Republicans. We didn't like,
you know, we're not here, we're but one side. No,
We're just for you know, and for people there. They're
building because there's a there's a part, there's a part
of the constituents that people don't think about. You know,
they always talk about what happens if you do this,

(25:09):
But the people that are moving there will be voters,
will be tax payers, you know, I mean, and you
know these communities need this.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah. One, Speaking of m b A, there's spring tours
going on this weekend from noon to four today and
tomorrow next weekend from noon to four. The event is free.
Go to m b A spring tour dot com n
b A springtour dot com. And being the president of
m b A this spring tour thing, I can tell

(25:39):
you that that from last week when we had a couple,
uh we we had both Pam and Toby and I
got a number of calls from people that went out
and looked at some of these homes. And this is
pretty cool because you can go in and and look
at homes that are already done and built and ready
to go, and there's kind of endiums, there's there's model homes,

(26:01):
there's subdivisions of all of a lot of different builders
and developers like Anderson Homes and along with Aspen and
Bellman and Bolinsky and all the way down the line,
and certainly as always wanted to think Nun's kitchen, bath and.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Floor in their sponsorship of this that Saturday after you
opened up, somebody walked into one of the holmes and says,
I want it, and they bought it, like right there.
But he says, well, you know it's going to stay
on this show for a while. I mean, you know,
he's not taking up the show. But somebody just walking
in and says it's exactly we're looking for and they
bought it.

Speaker 1 (26:34):
And they bought it. Yeah, I think that that that
happens a little bit on this Hey Joe, when when
the kind of events that NBA does and and and
I've been a part of that the banquet, uh for
the last couple of years. It's really interesting. We had
this conversation last week that people in As a former

(26:55):
basketball coach, I never talked to other coaches a lot
about you know, these are the drills we do. We're
running the flex, but we're going to do this off
that U c l A screen or that flex screen.
And it seems to me that that people in that
that are part of m b A are very open
to sharing and working with some of their competitors. And

(27:15):
that's just so weird for me, because I'm like, I'm
not talking to you, I'm competing against you, and I
want to beat you. But it seems to me when
I when I am see that show that the people
standing and clapping the loudest for the winners of some
of these awards are the people that were up for
the award and didn't get it, but they were happy
for the other company. And I think that that shows

(27:36):
the strength of the m b A. That's pretty impressive
to you as well.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
It is. It's really a great group, and that is
one of the side benefits of the biggest probably side
benefit besides all the events that we have. And I
think we've all realized, you know, once you're in it
for a while, you realize there's enough business out there
for all of us and we can help each other
out and it's not going to hurt us. And so

(28:02):
I think that's generally a mode that a lot of
people operate with over there. And and we all have
things that we need at certain point or need help with,
and you know, none of us is perfect. And we
even had, you know, on projects, you know, we might
be sharing dirt with each other, or I need to
get rid of dirt on one job, and another builder
has a lot across the way that I know they
need dirt on, so we'll give them a call, and

(28:22):
vice versa. And people call us and say, hey, I
need to get get rid of the dirt. So just
simple stuff like that on a day to day basis
happens as well behind the scenes. So yeah, it's a
big benefit and I learn a lot. That's why I
joined the NBA, you know, back in two thousand and six,
and it's been fantastic.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
That's awesome. MBA A Spring Tour dot Com, NBA Springtour
dot Com. If you go to that website, you can't
see all these homes in today and tomorrow. You can't.
I'm telling you there's from you know, from almost.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Fifty homes I think fifty six actually sixty one home sixty.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
One, sixty one homes and if you go on on
again the NBA Spring Tour dot com, you can take
a look at you know, from Brookfield to Cedarburg, Delafield,
there's number of homes East Troy, Franklin, Genesee, depend Germantown,
depending on what area you want to live. In Heartland

(29:19):
there's a number of In fact, there's a condo in
Heartland that might have a basement. Might have to look
at that one. Jackson, there are some beautiful homes. Lisbon,
Monominee Falls has got a number of homes. And go
on NBA Spring Tour dot com and kind of plan
your day and today's going to be a perfect day
to do this. And like Bingo said, there was a

(29:40):
home last week. I think it was Saturday that somebody
walked in that first day that it was the tour
was going on. Somebody walked in and said this is
this is our home.

Speaker 3 (29:50):
Yeah, they said, this is exactly what we're looking for.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yeah. I love that. I really do. Hey, as the
president of NBA, how much do you do you get
involved in in these kind of events? Are you? I
I'm wondering as the the the president, it's a one year,
it's a one year commitment correct, Uh.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Just the president part is yeah, So I've been Also,
it's a three year run. Typically you've got the first
year as a UH sec Treasurer and uh secretary, second
year's vice president, and then the third years of presidency.
So I've been on this track now I'm going in
your three Before that, I was a director for a
number of years on the board and I've also been
co chairman of the U Arbitration Mediation before that. So yeah,

(30:35):
so I've been involved a long time and it's not
just a one year thing. You might say it's been progressing.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Well, can I ask why? Why? Like why, because that's
you have twenty you have almost thirty homes in the
middle of being built, but yet you give you give
back to m b A and and there's some time,
there's a time commitment that you have to give to
do all the things that that you've done for them.
And I'm wondering why.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's just continual learning, Like every time I do one
of these things, you learn something new. So when we
were over in Madison, I heard some stuff that I've
never heard before, and it's really interesting and explained some
of the issues we're having so I've just looked at
this whole thing as a learning experience. And you know,
when I was when I still involved with the Arbitration
and Mediation Committee, and I just learned things that other

(31:21):
people have that you know, maybe haven't worked so well
for some other builders. So it's just continual learning, just
listening and absorbing information. And it's really been just a
big learning experience. I guess that's the thing I'm looking for,
and that's why I have no problem giving my time.
And again, my staff is fantastic. Back in my office,
I couldn't do this without them behind me because I'm

(31:44):
not there every day, at least this year, not every day,
and so they can keep things wrong and it's not
an issue. And then also the staff of the NBA
is fantastic. Toby, Pam, Heidi. They really good, really good job.
And Kathy rob who just stepped down as executive officer
this past year, she did a fantastic job and really

(32:04):
set us up for success, or set the NBA up
for success in the long run. And some of her
long term initiatives she's gotten pushed through over the last
couple of years, and it's really really been a fantastic thing.
And again I don't. It looks like I do a lot,
but I really don't do a lot.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
I have to.

Speaker 4 (32:19):
I have to be there and at times, but they
really do all the heavy lifting and I just get
to stand there and smile sometimes if I'm not grumpy.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Yeah, what does that happen? A lot? We can I'm
not doctor Phil, but I can help you with that.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Bige.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
When he talked about the educational part, well for me
to learn new things, and you know, you lit up
because that that's that's been you forever.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Oh yeah, as education. Just next week Tuesday, they're actually
doing a lunch and learn a while. Cybersecurity and businesses
because people are getting you know, here's what somebody like me. Right,
I get a bill and it just happened to us
not too far, not too long ago. Right, You get
a bill and says, hey, we're changing our bank account.
Can you or change your po box? Maailiar checks here? Right,
you know, and you gotta be careful with that stuff.

(33:05):
In cybersecurity, well, they're actually people are saying, yeah, this
is our new account. We went to a wire transfer
to money here, and people are like, oh good, Yeah,
I'm putting my down payment to my house.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Here you go and people are so be careful.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Yeah, so that anyways, the education are doing isn't just
education just for basic you know, one on one stuff.
It's for current events. This is currently happened to a
lot of contractors, a lot of homeowners. You know, the
money goes to Limbo, goes there, whatever, it goes Russia.
It doesn't come back.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
You know, it does not come back. There's one out
there right now. In the timing was pretty incredible. I
did my son Matthew, and I went to Purial Andnnoid
because I was playing an old guys basketball tournament and
so I tell you him and I went there and
it was like on a Thursday that I decided to
go with them, and I thought, I, you know, I'm sold.
I thought I could still pay cash at the tolls. Can't.

(33:54):
And when I got back, I'm like, hey, I got
I should probably I got to pay that thing. Well
this there are the spam thing going on right now,
And I thought, oh, Illinois must have sent this to me.
And then I looked at where it came from and
I thought now and I started googling and that I
almost went on that thing and.

Speaker 2 (34:11):
They do that, you know, do to your banks, and
you know, they just keep sending yourself out. But anyways,
I'm talking about the education part right, you know, and
it's it's just you know, you know, valuable.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
That is. If I don't lose you know, a couple
hundred thousand dollars, that'd be awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, Hey, last year's our last weekend. Good numbers at
the Spring Tour, do you know?

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, I heard it's busy. The rain kind of caused
a few issues, and it wasn't the best weather in
the world, so it wasn't a fantastic day to do it.
But yeah, they had good numbers last week, and I
think today and tomorrow should be even better. Got a
little better weather this weekend, so I think there.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Was sixty one projects, twenty four participants again from condominiums, lots,
model home subdivisions. All you have to do is go
to NBA Spring Tour dot com. They do a great
job of putting things on a map, so if you
want to plan, look, I want to be in the
cedarbrig area, where else in that area? Or I want
to be in East Troy or Franklin or Delafield. You know,

(35:08):
if that's a good area, Heartland, if I want to
be in Lake Country, do I want to look just
in that area. Well, if you go to NBA Spring
Tour dot com, and again it's a free event, it's
you're not paying a whole bunch of money to go
through this. You'll be able to meet with with some
of the builders us, some of the participants obviously, and
there's sixty one projects that you can take.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
That's what it's all about, you know. I mean, I'm
one of those people that like to touch and field things.
I want to just go to Amazon or I'm going
to buy a house. It just looks pictureless good to me.
I want to look at stuff, and that's what this is.
And you get to talk to when you get a
lot of times when you're there, you get to talk
to people who actually worked on the project. I mean,
and you know, it's all about developing relationships. If you
go out there and you find a contractor you like,
like you have a good relationship with, then that's that's

(35:52):
what you do because it's you know, you're big. One
of the biggest purchases you're ever going to make are
these homes you know, I mean, you got to make
sure you get along with this guy.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
And if you're building at some point, even a year
or two down the road, now's the time to start
doing your research. It can be incredibly a lot easier
in the process if you kind of know what you
like and what you don't like, and you can narrow
down your builders based on some of the things you
find in these houses and you know you don't have

(36:19):
you know, most people think, well, I got fifty builders
to choose from. Well, you might have fifty builders to
choose from, but fifty builders don't build what you're looking for,
so you really need to do some due diligence, or
in my opinion, you should probably try to do some
due diligence to kind of narrow down what you're looking
at and think about why you like this home versus
that home and really try to quantify it and saying, well,

(36:39):
I like this kitchen because of the color of the cabinets.
You know, I don't like anything about this kitchen except
for the cabinets a color, right, So you have to
kind of think about why you like these things and
compare them to other kitchens and say, okay, I like
that one because of the layout. I like this one
because the color. I like that area, how it relates
to the great room or the day net. And so
you think about refine that and making some notes on

(37:02):
what you like and why and when you go to
start your process of building with whoever, it will make
it significantly easier to do.

Speaker 1 (37:10):
Hey, last question before we get to a break. Everybody
wants to open concept, right.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
Uh, we're actually starting to see a little bit of pullback,
not a not nineteen fifties separated rooms, but a little
bit less open and just some areas. Right, We're trying
to make areas now in multiple areas in houses, so
we're seeing a little bit of division and separation, just
a little bit.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Do you tell people that there are some downsides to
open concept? I didn't know that until we moved into
the condo. My wife wants to my wife wants to
put the the dishwasher on. It's and I'm watching US
game or you know, n Cuba game, or you know
when you pick a sport, underwater hockey, I'm watching it

(37:51):
underwater hockey, NASCAR, Nascar, there you go, Nascar, Indy Car
or any of that.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Because practice the truck series and then practice starts for
NASCAR about thirty five minutes.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
Just keeping you up to date.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
Thank you for that, and were you impressed I brought
up the truck series. Yeah, yeah, I didn't even know
there's a truck Sorry. Afternoons, he is Joe Meyer. We're
gonna get you a break. On other side of the break,
will continue our conversation. He is the owner. If you
build a custom homes, you can go to Brookfield dot
you build it dot com. It's Brookfield dot you build

(38:22):
it dot com. And again, if if you're thinking, if
you're looking for something to do today or tomorrow, go
to NBA Spring Tour dot com NBA Spring Tour dot com.
Even if look you just want to get some ideas.
You're gonna do some renovations. You're going to redo your
kitchen this spring. You want to get some some some ideas,
head out. It's a free event, NBA Spring Tour. They've

(38:44):
got condominiums, lots, model homes and subdivisions that you can
check out. Go to NBA Spring Tour dot com. And
Joe Meyer, who is the president.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I'm waiting for someone to text me because we said,
you know, I said, I want someone to text me
and when you do all sixty one homes good? Maybe
by this weekend, so many I'd homes.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
In, Man, if they we'd like to have them come in.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
So far, I know the only person that's done all
six he one is Pam.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Pam, Pam. Yeah. Oh and I look, I would say
Toby hasn't done all sixty one yet. But he'll get there.
He will get there. We'll get to a break. Continuing
conversation again with Joe Meyer, president of NBA and owner
of You Build a Custom Homes and Renovations. This is
the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports
ninety twenty in your iHeart Radio app. Build it Commercial.

(39:30):
You know, if you want to do some commercials on
this show, you got to let me know. Mary, we
can start doing some work together. Welcome back to the
Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports nine
twenty in your iHeart Radio app. Coming live from the
Donovan and Jorgensen Heating and Cooling Studios. Mike McGivern alongside
Bingo Emmons, the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin, and Joe Meyer.

(39:52):
He is the owner of You Build a Custom Homes
and renovations. The president of NBA is also the president
of the German Town Basketball Association.

Speaker 4 (40:00):
Well president, I am president theoretically or technically, but I
really have a good group of guys up there that
do all the work. I don't really do much besides
show up for tournaments every now and then and do
a little work on the side.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Chyle does a nice job as the head coach out there.

Speaker 4 (40:12):
Kyle Figure is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
I like him.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
There's a great job, gets a lot as much out
of the kids as it's possible. And you know, they
ran to a little bad luck this year with some
injuries kind of down the stretch that kind of sideline them.
But yeah, he's a good guy.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
And the fact that Cooper left to go to Spring
up in Wisconsin, he added a lot to that team,
and he had a lot of toughness. If you looked
at the stats, he'd get about eight ten a game
and some rebounds, but boy, every loose ball, every charty,
he was taken all that, and their team I don't
think was nearly as tough after he left in January.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
Yeah, I agree, Cooper did a great job and he's
an incredible defender. You wonder why he plays linebackers. So
while his feet are the quickest feet I've maybe ever seen,
it's unbelievable. He could slide with anybody.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
He they came in studio and he what a personal
no nerves to look me right, And I said thank
you three times, and uh, really good kid. It's cool
that you're still involved out in jerman Town. I'm gonna
be And we had talked about me going out to
Kevin Heisel's house tonight. We're gonna watch a little basketball,
play some cards, and all of a sudden, it's like,

(41:19):
you know, a big meal, I guess because everybody's bringing stuff.
I've got chips and dip. If you've got any recommendations,
you let me know. Hey, Joe, when when when people
head out to the NBA Spring Tour. And if you
go to NBA Spring Tour dot com event going on
today and tomorrow and then next Saturday and Sunday from
noon to four, your recommendation for people that are are

(41:43):
either looking to buy a new home or to do renovations,
to get to get to as many of these as
you can. But to talk to the people right.

Speaker 4 (41:52):
Absolutely, yeah, just ask questions and try to again, try
to identify what you like about these things and and
you know, just think through how to get to the
next step. Also look at areas that you like for
possibly trying to find land.

Speaker 2 (42:10):
And build a build a relationship because these people are
gonna be in your house for a long time.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
You know that is I mean, that's your dat for
a while.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Yeah. Yeah, you really want to like the people that
you are gonna build with, and this is a good
chance to figure that out.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Hey can you go to and I'm sure you get
invited to open houses? Right we got to You're doing
twenty seven projects and people are gonna you know, that
journey is not always like it's a roller coaster. It is,
but at the end when everybody when they're super happy
and you get invited to the open house. If you
get invited to open house, is that people that you

(42:45):
didn't help build? Are you able to just go enjoy
yourself or you looking around like why did they do
that with the backsplash or why do they do that
with the outdoor living area?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Yeah? No, I you know, everybody has their own ideas
how to do things, and people look at some of
the things I do and say, well, you're stupid. So no,
I really do enjoy seeing other people and how they
do things, and there's always something to be learned by
looking at other people's product, and so yeah, I love it.
I go through the parade just like everybody else. And
I'll go through the tour this weekend next weekend a

(43:17):
little bit, just for fun.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
How many of the sixty one do you think you'll
get to?

Speaker 4 (43:21):
Not sixty one? No, I think our preyde House is
still open over in Germantown a little bit, and so
I'll get over in that area. I'm sorry in many foles.
I apologize on Dunbar Court, so I'll be sliding over
there a little bit and doing that that in Lisbon area.
So yeah, I'll get to ten.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
Maybe that's excellent. Hey, bingo. When people walk in to
these homes, and there's two reasons more than two, right,
there's probably three or four people that are going to
go on this tour this weekend next weekend. It's because
they wanted to get into the process of building and
custom building, or they want to be able to buy

(43:59):
an existing home. But then that other subgroup of people
that want to redo and renovate, and and then want
some ideas on how they are going to redo their kitchen.

Speaker 3 (44:10):
This is the perfect time to do it.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
It is because you can see what it would look like.
You know, when it's just a when it's just a photograph,
just a picture or something. You know, sometimes when you're
modeling too at hard saying the guy is. You know,
the person who's remodeling has to figure out what's in
your head. You have to figure it out. And this
way you gets a good example. Say hey, I like this,
but I would like it over here. I would like this,
but I like this. You know, you can get some
stuff you can touch and feel, because that's what this

(44:33):
show is designed. This tour designed for people that want
to see stuff.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
Bring in no pa, take pictures and take pictures, take pictures.
Speak a thousand words.

Speaker 1 (44:42):
He is Joe Meyer. He's been our special guest the
entire hour. You want to know about uh the company
he owns you build a custom homes and renovations. Go
to Brickfield dot you build it dot com.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
And I'm going to be humming at jingle.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
Al that's a good jingle. By the way, I thought
for sure that was your voice. I'm kidding with that
and today and this weekend next weekend. Go to NBA
Springtour dot com to get all the information on the
map and all the information on these homes, and you
can really kind of look at From that website, you
can look at homes and pictures and decide where you

(45:18):
want to go on noon to for today, noon to
four tomorrow, and same with Saturday and Sunday next week
NBA Springtour dot com. Hey Joe, it's good to see
you again.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Good to see you. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
What bigo? Have a good week?

Speaker 3 (45:29):
Yep, don't forget at three thirty races on. I'll remind you.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I've recorded it on six TVs so I don't miss
any angles. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement
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