September 20, 2025 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction, Wisconsin home improvement show on
Fox Sports Night twenty in your iHeart Radio app coming
live from the Donovan and Jorgenson Heating and Cooling Studios.
Got cold again, thing, Thank goodness. You keep that hoodie
in the.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Keep it just to show you have to wear hoodies.
You have to wear a hoodie and you and I thought,
you know, because we went in a couple of weeks
without it. But well, Camery blamed dominant jorguson.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, oh you can't.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, they do a job Spencers a thermostat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I know. And he wasn't here last night to
do the show that he normally, so he'll send me
a text and go, you better wear a hoodie tomorrow.
But he wentn't there, and so I thought, okay, well
I better figure it out. And two of our guests,
the two guests that are in the vice president of
the company, figured it out because she's got a hoodie
on the president of the company went out through his truck.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's like, yeah, she's here. Then, yeah, then she brought
one of her helpers.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, she she brought one of her helpers. I can
tell you this Namey Construction I had John name Me
on a different station home improvement show ten years ago,
and I asked him on the air, I said, hey,
you're any of your kids you think they're get involved?
And he got the sparkle in his eye. He goes,
you know, my daughter, she's really interested in this company.
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And we'll see. She's going to go to college, I
would think. And we'll see though, And sure enough the
vice president of Name Me Construction, she said, I have
the title, but I didn't get any more cash. So
we got to talk to the president about that. John Holler,
it's good to see you. It's good to see you too, Mike. Yeah,
and you can move that microphone. We'll just move it
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back and forth. Years ago. So ten years ago, eleven
years ago when you told me that, look at this, yep,
vice is that her title? Vice president?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Sure, we gotta get new cards made up. It's kind
of exciting to have Liz here. And she's not so
excited to be She's like, you're doing most of the talking, dad,
And I go, no, that's not going to happen. But
you got to be excited to have your daughter working
alongside you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I am. It's been a change in the last probably
five years. I mean, Liz came on board and she decided,
and then my son came on board. Wow, he's in
the office. He's always loved the office work.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And many kind of sounds like your company, Ben.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we got yeah uptimes as the opposite. Sam's in
the office and Zackson the field.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What is your son's title?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Then, if she's VP, what's he Well, he's the office manager.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, does he know that? He does know? Now, Liz,
if you can, it's so good to see you. How
are you. Yeah, that's going to move here. You might
have to hold it as the VP. And we're laughing
about this, but working at Navy Construction. Look, you graduated
from Thomas Moore and went to college thinking I don't
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know if I want to be involved in the company.
Year and a half into college, you thought, you know what,
that's what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yep. Yeah, when it's always been in my life seeing
dad work, and I was like, I love it, but
I didn't know if I wanted to do it. And
went to college and then my freshman year COVID hit
and I was turned online and I can't do online class,
so I didn't know what I wanted to do. But
when I while I figured it out, I started working
for him just so I had a job and made
some money while I didn't I wasn't doing anything else,
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and then.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Never left.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Working from she's involved, he go to Narry events and stuff.
She's yeah, I mean I love it. Yeah, she's a face.
She's the face.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And created the face.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So do I.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But I didn't want to say it. I didn't want
to say.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That because these shows are recorded her for life.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah. Well, when and I had asked Zach this, and
I asked a number of people, when are you in
the back of your head do you know some of
the things that how you to move this this company
forward and what you're thinking when it's time for you
to take over. Obviously, the template has been set and
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it's a company that's doing really well. And the reputation
that your father and the company has is incredible. Oh
and so we don't want to change that. But there's
some things I know. When when when we had Zack
in and he said, look, there are some things that
certainly we want to do and upgrade and get into
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today's world as far as on digital and making sure
that everything is is you know set that way? Do
you see some things that one day you'll go, Okay,
we're gonna We're gonna change this when I take over.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Definitely the social media side, I feel like we're he's older,
he doesn't know, he doesn't know at all, but like
getting more pictures taken and posting more so people can
see our jobs and see what we're doing, and not
just have our website, but get the posts out there
so everyone.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Can see them.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
There you go, yeah, that's uh. We always take pictures
here And Bengo's like, here's why we're taking him because
at the end of the year we post all this
and it's important, I think, to be able to do that.
And he surprises for you. And before we get to that,
what's your day to day? Like are you out on jobs?
Are you swinging a hammer? Are you selling? What things
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are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
When I first started, I was out on the job
swinging hammers, and then I slowly moved into the office
and now I'm more in the office prepping the jobs,
getting all the materials ordered, and then going on appointments
and selling jobs to customers and talking to customers about
what they want done.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Have you gone in the beginning of that, did you
go out with your dad? Because I've watched him in
that he's got such a skill set of his thing is, Look,
we're a really good company, but we're not for everybody,
and spend some time with us. Get a feel because
we're going to date for a while. And he's really good.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But I think about John, he's honest. Sometimes I might
hurt his company because he's too honest, but he's very
honest and it's great though. You know, I don't mind
recommend him because I know he's honest.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you've seen that, and so that that's kind of
the path you're going to want to continue with Navy Construction.
I would think.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Everyone knows our reputation and got to keep that. That's
how he grew the business to where it is.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I love that. Not bad for Thomas More girl,
and I'd look, I would trust her. I wouldn't trust
all timas more people, but or I would. Is there
an area in the home that you're most comfortable with?
Like if somebody wants a kitchen, model or a bath
or a basement, is what area in the home are
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you most comfortable in?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
For me personally, I think basements and kitchens. I've done
a lot of those, but the whole company kitchens, bathroom
and basements are are kind of bread and butter, and
we do those of the best, but we can we
do it all, but that's what we do best.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So can you go to somebody's new they bought it
the front of yours bought a new home. Can you
just walk in and have fun at the househoarning party?
Are you looking at every nook and cranny.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I used to give my.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Dad so much, but now it's like, no, I got
to look and they all know that I'm and they're like,
just don't tell me anything.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
If it's really bad, tell me.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But if it's just something's crooked, don't tell me because
I don't need to see it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Or if you don't like the colors exactly did you
have that gift first?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
The color is not so much putting colors together. That's
my mom. But I know I can tell you when
something's not square or not level, and that he always
did that, and I'm like, can you just stop for once?
But now I'm doing it and it drives me nuts
that I'm doing it now.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
But it's a good thing to know you got to
be able to see that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So, yeah, do you think the color thing will come?
Because I don't have it and I envy people that
have it. I just can't if you put up three
different lines, Hey do you want this blue or this
blue or this blue? Until you finish the project and
I'll tell you what I think, which is a horrible
way to be a customer, but that's kind of how
it is for me. And do you think that the
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color part of it will come with the job.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I think it's coming a little more.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
When we're like ordering all the tile that people pick out,
I can start to finally see it come together and
I can see all this tile is gonna look good
this But at first it was I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I couldn't even tell you what it was.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So that might be a learned behavior.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Maybe as the VP of Naming Construction, if you want
to hire me as a part time, you know, I
can go in and check colors. That's the only way
that maybe I'm going to be able.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
To We want to Kelly green?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, everything needs that. Mcgiffern think a little Kelly green
would be awesome? Hey, John, how many employees now it
amy construction?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We have. What do we have seven out in the
field and four in the office? No five out in
the field.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
To think about it, I remember back in the day,
it was like there's three of you, and now it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's that's one of our biggest challenges is to find
more employees in the right kind of employees.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, what part of the yeah, yeah, every week?
What part Well, what's interesting is last night and the
silent reporter for the high school football game of the weekend,
I was interviewing and what time you're on with that
six point thirty one Channel twenty four pregame with Mike
mcgiffrett seven o'clock kickoff. Next week, we're gonna be out
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in Pewaukee, which is a really nice drive for me.
It's about four minutes and it'll be mcguanaga at Pewaukee.
But we're talking to somebody in a different industry. But
and he said, look at a car dealership. There's I'm
the service technician and I need I need high school
kids to want to get involved in this. But there's
a lot of things you can do, and I think
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in your company as well, right front office sales and
then swinging a hammer and getting the work done. There's
a lot of different.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Positions parts of the construction. You can bet a carpenter,
you can be the drywall, you can be a finisher.
There's a finished carpenter. There's a plumber, as electrician. There's
so many different things you can pick of different things
that you could like to do. You know, it's not
the same company.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And look and please don't be a but your daughter
is quite a bit younger than all of us. And
for her to be able to talk to me, to
be for yourself, then go. She's able to talk to
kids a little bit younger, I think, and get them
to understand that this is a career, not just a
part time job or a job where you know, now
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you're looking for something else. This is something that you
start and if you're doing a good job and working hard,
you can have a career.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Absolutely. We've been involved with the youth apprenticeship program in
the high schools and it's been really great. I mean
we will get a youth usually one or two a year,
you know, and sometimes they work out. Sometimes one of
them will work out.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We had one that was in Franklin High School and
he all through his junior year and senior year, Drew
was working for us and then he graduated, and then
he went off to trade school. He wanted to get
more education, and I told him, you know, when you
get done, I want you to come back. You are
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a valuable employee.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And he had the good work ethic John. What did
he do for those his junior and senior year in
high school? What kind of was he swinging a hammer?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
He was out in the field swinging a hammer half
a day, you know, and it varied. Sometimes it was
in the morning, sometimes it was in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But he showed up every day.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Absolutely. You know amazing how that works. If you show
up every day, you have a job.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, right, you know, we've had Tom Herman, correct, because
we've always had youth friends somebody and every once in
a while you found a golden nugget, one that stays. Yeah,
that's it, and it's it's it's always a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
When he went to school, Drew is who we're talking about.
Did he Is he going forward to be an electrician,
a carpenter or no.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
He wants to be in the construction trade. He went
the classes he took. There were some cabinet making and
you know, finished carpentry. They also did some more home building.
You know, Franklin, I think they're building a house. They
build a house every year in the class. Wow, I know.
Oh Creek does the same thing.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Has awesome, awesome and awesome tech program.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Question. Do you know I think that that the kids
that like this, true kid, that know what they want
to do right and and go look at here, here's
I'm going to start it as a junior in high school,
get some experience, make a little bit of money. My
buddies are working at Culver's or McDonald's or picking save,
which is great. But this is the he started his
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career knowing what he wanted to do and the fact
that he showed up every day. I think that that's
the key. And if you show up every day and
put a little sweat equity into a company, you can
get a lot out of it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh yeah, I mean, and he's been phenomenal for the company.
You know. Now he's back with us full time, and
you know, we're doing what we can do to nurture
that relationship, to keep him happy, you know, because there's
jobs out there. You know, I don't want him jumping
ship and going someplace else, you know, but he's just
been phenomenal and big.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh it's it's funny because each week on the show,
we could do a full segment on whoever our guest is.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Looking for competent work right and and we're not in
the competency has changed right now. If you have a
driver licensing, you have a vehicle and you gonna show
up to the job, you're pretty high up there.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Pretty high way up there, way up there, Hey lizen,
if we can move as the vice president of naming construction,
and we're going this is live and we're gonna I'm
gonna get you this the recording on this so he
ever says you're not the bit, Yes I am here.
It is what what keeps you up at night with
with this company? Like what? And I would assume now
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that you've been at it for a while, not many
sleepless nights, but I would assume you started so sleepless
nights as far as where you fit in, what your
job title, what your role is going to be and
how and as the owner's daughter, right, you got to
be a little you're walking on eggshells around some employees
that have been there a while, going oh, great, here
we go. I'm wondering what kept you up or keeps
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you up at night.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It was figuring out what I wanted to do, because
he's always said, you can be in the field, or
you can be in the office, and you can hire
the other part. You're the owner. You can pick what
you want to do. You just have to figure out
what you want to do so we can train you
in that. But you need to know both sides. So
that was more of a figuring out what I want
to do. But now I know I love talking to
customers and I love ordering the materials and setting all
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that stuff up.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So that's where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Do you miss Did you miss swinging the hammer at all?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And no. I've always loved it. I've done it since
I was a kid, so I know I can do it.
I bought a house like a year ago, so I'm
working on doing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So how far from your mom and dad's.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
How like fifteen twenty minutes is perfect? Yeah, southside of
Milwaukee area.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And I when we're on eighty eighth in Townsend and
your dad was at our house, my son lived twenty
minutes away. He lived off eighty fourth in Oklahoma. We
moved to Milwaukee. The following weekend, him and his wife
moved to Waukesha, twenty minutes away, and I go, hey,
he goes, I don't want to live in Mcgiffernville twenty
minutes because my daughter used to live kitty corner from
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us and now they live right down Capitol and they're
like eight minutes away. And he's like, twenty's perfect to twenty.
You can't just pop over that. You got to actually,
you know, call us and say hey, we're coming over.
And I said, I don't want to live, so twenty
minutes is perfect, right, Yes, you're buying your first How
old are you? Twenty four and you bought your first house? Yes, congratulations?
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How's that feel?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It was my aunt's duplex and she didn't want to
be a landlord, and I knew, because I'm taking over
this business, I'm going to be in Wisconsin. So getting
a duplex to have a tenant and get another source
of income was what I wanted.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So it worked out well.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If people don't realize that when you go into the trades,
you see she's bout a house. You know that that's
on a second house, right, Right, He's on a second house.
Sam's got a house, right, All the kids were her house.
Johnny's got everybody in our company. I mean they all,
I mean they have they have things, and they usually
have more money than their friends.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, and they're not paying back home. You might be
still paying back alone or two. But hey, John, at
twenty four, she's she's a little ahead of where some
of us were at twenty four, ahead where I was.
I didn't want to assume maybe No, I didn't want
to assume because maybe you had three houses when.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You were when I was twenty four, I didn't have
a clue, didn't know what I wanted to do, you know,
and bounced around and did this and that, and one
of the things that finally showed up. I mean I
have been remodeling and working on people's houses since I
was a teenager. You know. One of the my neighborhood
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guys in the neighborhood, you know, was a master carpenter
and he did projects and I would help him, and
I've always loved that. When I was like eighteen years old,
I built a garage for the guy next door. He's like, hey,
I want to build this garage, you know, can you
help me? Well, the helping him turned into doing it
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because I mean, Sid was a great guy, but he
had no carpentery skills. You know, he had other skills, but.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It wasn't in this feature, John, do you know how
many people behind my back has said that? And one
writes my face? Who is Zach Emmons? Because again we
deal with commercial that My wife has him on speed
down because anytime I try to do a home improvement
project on my own, she calls him halfway through and says,
get ready to come help him because he's there's no
chance he's getting this done right. And so that whole
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not having that skills set and Lizard, what's funny is
my father was a bricklayer and a mason. He wanted
one of his boys. There's four of us and two
daughters he had, but he wanted one of his boys
to follow in his footsteps. And he sat and he said,
you're going to tech. You're the youngest mcgiffern and you're
going to follow my footsteps. No chance, uh huh. And
he had no patience to teach us. Your father had
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some patience.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
To teach you, right, yeah, he taught us. Bryan brother
and I growing up.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
We'd redd our bathroom when I was five or six,
and he taught me how to tile. He sat on
a bucket and cut all the pieces, but I was
putting all the tile up.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
So he was never afraid to teach.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He had the patience. Oh yes, you know, I knew,
Like if my dad would say, hey, you're not going
to the playground today, You're going to stay here and
help me with this, and he'd say, go get me
a fill of screwdriver. I knew what one was, but
I'd bring him the wrong one, so he'd yell at
me and say, just get out of here. I'm not
doing that. So I'd go to the playground and look,
I thought I was going to the NBA. That didn't happen.
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You know, I'm a five ten, slow white kid, so
that wasn't gonna happen. But in my mind, what do
I need to get you the right screwdriver for? I'm
not doing that stuff. I'm going to the NBA. And that, look,
he knew better. He knew that was not gonna happen. Guys,
We're gonna get to a break other side of the
break I have a number of dues and don't when
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you're gonna redo your kitchen and I want to ask
you and both John and Liz. I said, Liz, I'm
gonna do this as she goes, you're talking to my
dad on that one. I'm gonna ask both of you
in studio the entire hour our special guests, John and Liz.
Name me from NAMI Construction. John's the owner, Liz's the
vice president. I don't know which one's higher. We'll figure
that out. Go to Namy Construction dot com nameI Construction
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dot com for more information. This is the Creative Construction
Wisconsin Home improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty and
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go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com. The largest employee owned
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McGivern alongside my co host. He's the owner of Creative Construction, Wisconsin.
He is Bingo Emmons, Bingo. I gotta, I gotta thank you.
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Last week's Faith in the Zone, we had a chaplain
from Indy Car Racing Ministry and I want to thank
you for that introduction. What a great guy.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, you can tell you he's like a California surfer boy.
But yes, but I mean he's really I mean people.
I mean, before you you go and you go to
the grid, you know, because I'm on the grid. When
you start the racing. You go around and he is,
He stops sing, does a little prayer with everybody, and
there's a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He wants me to come next year and hang out
with him.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, well, first of all, you know what we do
the broad party to tell.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You you've better make a couple extra broads because I
can eat a few of those.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I can.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, they love that. It's our highlight. We do the
bronze and a cheese kurts and they love that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
He said, you know what, if you've never been and
never even watched a race, please up. He said, this
gives you a whole different Idea said, it's sitting at
your home watching it on TV. Just come and experience
with me. And I said, you know what, I'll do that.
The other part they do, which is really impressive is
they reach out to local churches and they have local
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churches come to hand out tracks and bibles to people
that are coming to see this this retired show car
and then getting people to come to their local church.
And I was just really impressed with them.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So they're not they're not pushy. They're not pushy at all.
They're just like, you know, if you want to, you
can help you out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Come on over. Yeah, you bet, that's awesome. Hey, Liz,
so I know that you will. We'll have your dad
join us as well. But doing some research for the show,
there was a number of things dos and don't and
and we're going to talk a little bit about when
you're when you're going to do a remodel project, some
of the dues and don'ts. One of the things, the
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number one thing is don't neglect your budget. And I
know that in your in your industry, and you have
to be comfortable asking people what the budget is because
everybody's afraid to give you the truth. If they tell
you twenty five thousand, they probably have forty, but they're
not going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's what happens with the people of the budget. They're
afraid to tell you. And it's always the same thing, right,
they're afraid to tell you because they're afraid to get Well,
whatever your budget is, but no, you want what the
budget is because it's a real number. And for some reason,
people are afraid to tell you what their budget is,
right because they think you're gonna mark it up.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
If they say forty, you're gonna spend off forty. Have
you gotten comfortable in your role as the vice president?
Notice how many times I've said that as the vice
president may be construction as a twenty four year old,
which is really impressive. We just bought your first house,
which is really impressive. Are you comfortable now in that
setting of sitting at somebody's kitchen table and asking what's
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your budget and just be honest with me?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Still getting used to it because it's always weird talking money.
You don't really talk money with people, but it's weird.
But like you said, you need to know because that's
how we give you your best project. We want to
know what your budget is, so we can get you
what you want.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
For that price.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah. I ask this every week, but I got to
ask you these TV shows that people watch, right, is
that good for your business or bad for your business.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It's good for people to get ideas.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
It's bad for when they use it for their budget
because it's almost always totally wrong and way under and
people don't realize that. And then we give them our
bids and they start picking stuff out and they're like, oh,
I didn't realize it was that expensive.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, well, well we did hope that bathrooms gonna cost
seventeen thousand dollars. Not in Wisconsin. I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Asks right. No. Another The next one is don't And
again there's a number of things, but I want to
jump to a few. Don't do not position essential appliances
against a wall so that obviously is a kitchen. Don't
place elements in the work triangle far from each other.
Don't emphasize it's.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, let's explain to work your triangle. I don't want
to work angle is, but our listeners probably.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Don't really because okay, do you know what the work? Okay,
what do you know what the word I'm going to
John Namy because Liz pointed at John.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Liz was like, point like, hey, don't ask me McGivern.
I walked out of here my hand remember one of
my if you had her hands, like in the place
where it was nice and warm, and all of a
sudden they popped out quick.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And I know all that stuff because back in the
day when I took my cr thing, he was one
of the teachers. So, I mean, so I know this.
It was a test question.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, So let's talk about do not place elements in
the work triangle far from each other?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
John, So let's start this notes what the work triangle is,
thank you. That is the triangle with the stove, the refrigerator,
in the kitchen, sink, because when you're in the kitchen cooking,
you're bouncing around that triangle to prep your food and
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get everything going. So you don't want things you don't
want it too far away. You don't want the refrigerator
on the other side of your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hey, John, it's almost like you wrote the answer on
this thing. I mean, I know, I'm telling you. You
know it talks about the sink, the refrigerator triangle with
sides that are not far apart from each other, making
it easy to move around the kitchen. There are exceptions,
but the work triangle is a very useful tool for
the kitchen design.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm like, if you don't believe how many notes if
you have an islander, if you have an island, right,
it can't be like sticking to the triangle like more
than a foot right, there's rules that there are rules.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I mean, you want to be able to take the
stuff out of the refrigerator, set it on the island,
but you don't want to walk around a six foot
island to get to the sink.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Hey, Liz, when you're in somebody's living room or kitchen
and we're talking more about kitchens in this segment, and
they come up with an idea that you just are thinking,
is it hard because it's their kitchen, it's not your kitchen.
But when you know, for instance, if they if this
work triangle they were going to have, it was not
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going to be effective and not work well in that kitchen.
Are you comfortable enough right now, early in this career
as a VP of Namy Construction to be able to say, hey, listen,
I'm not quite sure. Let me give you a second
thought on that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, it's always hard because it's their idea, but you
want to make sure at the end of the day,
they put a lot of money into the kitchen.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
You want to make sure it works well for them.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And they're relying on us to give them our thoughts
and our ideas too, because we've been in the industry
for so long, or my dad's been in the industry
for so long.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, they construction, your company's been a long time. So
another one. And I'm going to stay with you on this.
Don't emphasize inspirational wants over practical needs because a year
from now that inspiration might go away and now you're
stuck with this for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
My favorite is they saw it on Pinterest. It looks
great on a computer and your screen in our picture,
but not on there. It won't look like that in
their kitchen.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, and everything comes and goes. So we always tell
our customers. They always ask, go what's in, and it's like, Okay,
this is in. But if you don't want it, you
don't need to have it.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It's your kitchen.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And if you sell the house, the next person can
redesign if they don't like the colors you pick.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But it's your kitchen, so get what you want.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So if I have you come in and I want
shake carpeting, that probably yeah, maybe yeah, you know, for
the quiet, we'll.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Explain why it's not the best.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But if that's really what you want and you want
to pay for it, it's like I said, it's your house,
so we'll always explant.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That's why I see where someone's like, yeah, we want
carpeting in a bathroom. Oh boy, and you're just like, okay, yeah,
are you sure about that? You know, you better call
this other guy because I can't.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Do and liszt for me, and I've told the story
one hundred times. We're putting new cabinets in and all
we had to do was pick the hardware, my wife
and I and we're going to dinner. Before we went
to dinner, we went to a big box store and
I thought, well, they'll be fifteen options. I'll pick one
and we're out of here. I was in the fetal
position in the car rocking, going please please just pick something, Terry.
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I had to leave. There's too many. It was overwhelming.
So to have somebody like you to be able to say, okay,
here are some options for you. Give me three and
let me pick one. Don't give me a thousand and
say go pick one because I can't. It's too much
for me. Plus I was hungry and I wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Right, you're hungry, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, ta huckster.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's what I call my wife, Terry, the hungry monster
if she gets hungry. Last one on the don't park.
Don't rush the process. And I want to read this
to you. Especially kitchen renovations usually require homeowners, their families,
and their pets live without a kitchen for a while, right,
which can be really stressful. Let's make sure we don't
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rush the project and make sure that you're prepared to
last through any frustrating delays because that you have to
work through that with customers. It's like a roller coaster, right,
all of a sudden, they don't see they don't think
you guys are getting through the project.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Times I'll see it. I mean they'll set it up
so like the living room as the microwave, and I
mean in the basement.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
A lot of people move their stuff down in the
basement because it's easy and it's open and there's outlets
and stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But when when you talk to somebody and they sign
the contract. How open are you as far as the
timeline and who are you there? Are you the person
if you sell me a project? Are you my contact?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
At Naming Construction, I'm one of and then our lead
carpenter you'll have their contact and you'll have John's contact.
So we try and give the customers as many contacts
because it's a remoling project.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Nothing ever goes perfectly.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We're working with an existing house, so given them as
many options, but we're also very open. We tell them
it's going to be four to six, six, eight weeks because.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That's how long it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
We don't want them to plan for six and then
it goes to eight because they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So we we had our bathroom kind of redone, and
we had had other work done in the house. What
I was really impressed with with the company that came
and did our bath was the amount of communication that
they had with my wife. My wife works out of
her home and every morning and look, I had to
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go shower over at a place I was working out,
and I didn't. I was like, guys, you got to
get this thing done, like I can't. I can't they're naked.
Tan Man was always there and I wrote a song
about him by the way, and he would I just
didn't want to do that, and they in a weak
time they came and did this. But every morning my
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wife would get either a text or a phone call. Hey,
at ten o'clock, we've got this guy. And they knew
she was going to be at home, but they wanted
her to have really knowledge on here's when people are
going to be and here's what they're doing in your home.
And when you have that kind of communication with the
company that's doing in the work, it sure puts you
at ease.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Oh yeah, you don't. Customers don't know the whole process.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They don't know who's coming one because they don't do this,
they don't do this for their living. So trying to
give them as much information as they can so they
know the process makes them always feel more at ease.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And what happens is in construction now it's usually it's
not the contractor, it's the homeowner says, hey, I don't
want anybody in my house tomorrow. Right, that's the only data.
Plumber can show up now now he doesn't can't show
up for two more weeks. The whole job gets delayed, right,
and it's it's it's always the order selections, right. They say, well, yeah,
I need to know the color in the next two weeks,
and you call them in two weeks later he goes, yeah,
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give me in our week.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Everything, when you tell somebody it's going to be an
eight week project, even though you think you know it's
probably going to be six weeks, you add a little
to buffer in case of issues, because, like you said,
in every construction job, you're going to come up with something.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
That's why we normally give a range, because because you
never know. And like with the kitchen, the countertops have
to be measured last, so that's always there's a weird
time of the kitchen looks done basically, but the countertops
aren't in.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
So it's always.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Letting them know it's gonna look done, but then it's
gonna sit for a little bit because.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It has to wait.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The countertop company won't even work on it until all
the cabinets are in place, and.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
The cabinets have to go in after the flooring's and
so it's always, I.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Mean, when you rush the whole process, especially the design phase.
You know, we'll go out and talk to a homeowner
and they've been thinking about this for six months, two years,
whatever it is. And then when they want to sign
a design contract, they want to happen overnight, and it's like, no,
it's gonna take some time. We need to take time
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to work through the design. If you don't work through
the design process properly, that's when you're setting yourself up
for problems during construction. Yeah, you know, we want everything
on order. We want them to go out and select
their slabs for their countertops before we even start demo
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in Wow. And the slabs are at the fabricators so
that when we're ready for them to come out and measure,
they already have the slabs on site. They come out
and measure, you know, it depends on their fabrication schedule.
I've had them come out on Monday and measure and
install on Friday. Wow. That's unusual. It usually takes a
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couple of weeks. But you know, they had a lull.
They got in there and got it. You know, we
didn't have to measure and then we had to move
slabs around. We had them there waiting for them.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
So Hey, a couple of things on the DO, Right,
we talked about do not, but a couple of things
on the DO that I think are really interesting to me.
Do you consider the timeless over the trendy? Right? I
mean there's a on this show we talk about trends
a lot, and normally the second hand half of the year, right,
(34:01):
we'll talk about it like this time of year. What
do you think in twenty twenty six, And we'll have
some designers sitting where you're sitting, lives and they'll say, well,
next year, it's really dark gray seems to be the trend.
And I don't know if it's in a year later
it hits here, right, it's it's on the coast and
in the west coast, East coast. It looks like dark
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gray is coming back and we'll see it in a year.
And so let's consider the timeless over the trendy is
number one? And you'll love this. Do do account for
surprise costs? Because again, our budget's forty thousand dollars, but
we got to make sure. Look, the whole project's probably
(34:41):
going to come in at thirty two thousand, but let's
make sure that we have that eight thousand available for
any surprise, cost something. Everybody never know what it is right,
and everybody wants you open concept now right.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I was gonna say it is up. Especially when
you work an old home. They'll have a house and
is a regularly say also in the find out that
the house is still on not being too wearing parts
of it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
We had that we opened.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
They wanted some drywall repair and we took it down
and we were like, we can't. You don't want this
in your house, like this is not safe. So it
always something always.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You can't insulate.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It always comes with surprise, cous that that's got to
be hard for you excuse me to be able to
go to somebody mid projects and go, look, you wanted
this open concept. We didn't realize when we took this
wall down what we were going to come up with.
And to be able to go to them and say, look,
we need to add to the budget or take something
(35:35):
away from from the plant, and that's got to be
an uncomfortable conversation.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
It's always hard.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
That's why John's always pretty good at kind of expecting
worst case scenarios so we can prepare as much as
we can and look all throughout the house to get
any clues of what we might find in there, so
we try to prevent it as well.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
As it's the typical this is what the kids do,
right he just said, Johnny, Okay, that's what you know what?
I better call my dad?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt a couple other ones on the
de right, do remember storage because I don't know if
everybody that's at the top of everybody's list. Do browse
kitchen remodeled portfolios, take a look and come into our
meeting with some ideas. It used to be, well you're
the expert, what do you think In today's world, they
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have forty seven different ideas, as Bengo talked about from
Pinterest and other places you can find it and these
TV shows, well they got it done in thirty minutes.
How long is it going to take you to get
but certainly browse different portfolios. Do you think about walkways
and paths and do add plenty of lighting? I think
(36:40):
that's different than years ago where people didn't you know,
you had two or three choices when it came to lighting,
and now lighting is it's such a big part of it, so.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Many options for everything, which makes it hard.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
But that's why we always say go on Pinterest and
look at multiple different pictures of what you like and
we can pick from this picture of the life or
the colors from this and kind of build your kitchen
from there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Hey, before we get to your break, do you have
a favorite project that you've been involved in and you
don't have to name the people, but you have one
where you go back and go. If I had to
show one of mine, one that I've been involved in
from start to finish, this is the one I would show.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I think it was one of the first ones where
I was fully start to finish and it was a
big basement and the customers are awesome. But it was
also I learned framing and I learned a little bit
of everything, and that's when I kind of clicked, like, yeah,
I do like doing this. And that one I was
on the appointments and I sold the job. But then
I also worked in the field, so it was a full,
full start to finish, not just on the job but
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in the office as well.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So that was always my favorite.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
The best part is when it's done and you get
a chance to come and show it and make sure
they're happy. Yep, Because during that the six to eight
twelve week date that you're doing. There might be some
arguments and I'm going to break up with you know
you're not going to break up with any kind of thing,
and then they give you a hugg and go it's perfect,
(38:05):
exactly what we're hoping for. That's got to the drive
home from there's got to feel.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It's always amazing when you go on the final appointment
and they're just happy and they love to walk you
around and show you everything that they love about it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
The compliment to me is when they refer you. That's
always a compliment. Because every job has a problem, it's
how you handle it in your relationship. And because that's
I guess some people that call us up and says,
you know, you guys have some problems with this, and
the only reason why I use you because I call
you up and took care of it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I think that's really important. I have a client
through the mcgivernern agency who they were interviewing through or
four different companies to do this, and when they hired us,
they said, look, the reason we hired you is we
feel like you're one of us. And that go, what
does that mean? And they said, if there's an issue.
You're going to come right to us, tell us what
the problem was and what the options are, and fix it.
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And you're not going to hide it and not going
to run from it. And if all of a sudden
two months later we find out, we feel like you're
not going to do that. So the communication part is
the key to this. And if you make a mistake,
own up to it and fix it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Keeping the honesty and the relationship with the customer is
the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Hey, we're gonna get We got to get your break.
But I have to ask you this on my high
school show. Your father and your mother, who I've known
for a long time, had that, and certainly your uncle Ron,
who I know really well, have that servant leadership Hart,
And that's the learned behavior. Where do you think you
got that from.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I think both of my parents, like you said, they
always have it, and they've they've always had it, so
growing up that's how they raise me. And it's always
if you can help someone, help them, and if you
can't you can't, but be honest because you don't want
to try and help them, then not be able to,
but always try and help the best you can.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So the Creative Construction. And I say this almost every week.
Has that right their company? The mission statement behind their company,
behind deb and behind Bingo is and it came from
their dad. It came from Bingo's dad. I believe we're
going to give back to her community. One thing that
I yell at them about is they don't tell anybody
about it, and they do all this stuff. And look
(40:07):
at John's laughing right now, the same thing because your
mom and dad want to always give back to the
community and help people, but we don't need to talk
about it. And that was a break about it one
hundred percent, one hundred percent. So I congratulate you for that,
and I congratulate your mom and dad for that. And
your you know, your dad says your mom's the boss,
(40:29):
He's the boss. But no, she's homeshake, you know, on
the ball. You know, how is she.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Feeling by the very good you ever go to the show, Yeah,
Diane's Diane's the boss.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Everyone knows Diane.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, no argument for me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No, you know what, we go to a break, John's like,
just I'm the man in my house.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
No, she signs the paycheck.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
As the vice president of Navy, and you're right there.
I gotta be with you. I'm glad she's feeling better,
and yeah good, I tell her. I say hello. By
the way, let's get you a break the other side
of the break, Liz, name me VP of Namy Construction.
Her dad. I don't know what he does over there,
but he by the way.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You like the eight you said, VP?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You guys, Okay, yeah, there it is another race forty
eight bucks. Hey, you guys are moving maybe at the
end of the year. You guys bought a building.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
We did buy a building and we're remodeling it now
and you're huh, we are.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
We are looking forward to an open house invitation.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, I'll be there. Okay. You know Saint Martin Road
in Franklin hues the older, older building.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
It's one hundred year old building. It started out as
a general store in Franklin.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Then you must have a real good seat for the
same mine's fair.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
We're front row and center. If you want space, we
got space for Saint Martin.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You got a parking lot. You can probably you know
where the forty eight the race can come from. There
you go, Hi, ten bucks apart ten bucks. All the
money goes to the vice president there you go. Nine.
By the way, this is the Creative Construction of a
Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports side twenty and
your iHeartRadio App. Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin
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home improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty in your
iHeart Radio app. Coming live from the Donovan and Jorganson
Heating and Colleen Studios. Mike mcgiven alongside Bingo Emmons. He
is the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin. Our special guest
in studio, Man, I like these guys, John and Liz
Namey VP. Sorry, fifty, there you go. I won't do
(42:41):
any more, John, I promise. Yeah, I doubt that even
fifty idea. That's not a bit, you know it is not.
Go to Nami Construction dot com. Nami Construction dot com.
And I can tell you the beginning of next year,
you'll be able to.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Go over to there.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Na.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can go there and say you heard it on
the show. She gets a raise, gut.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah, you look at her. Hey, next time, bring salmon, Actually, Litz,
you should bring salmon and we can talk sibling rivalry
and all that Marquette times, all of that. Hey, I
got a text, I've got a friend who's redoing a bathroom,
and the question is like how long a master bath?
(43:21):
How long can can he expect if he if he
hires Namy construction, a project like that would.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Take a full gut It can be three to five weeks,
with that last week being that countertop wing for the countertop.
But if it's just like the drywall saying we're just
getting new stuff, two to three weeks, depending on how far.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Of a project or how big of a project it is.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, it really depends if it's the master if it's a.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Second, if you're moving drains around and doing stuff like that.
You know, the problem is you got those companies that
you know, those slap fitters where we call those things
where you slip stuff over the top of stuff and
then you regret it, you know two years later. Yeah,
that's the problem with those things.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Here, there's some trends lists that you're seeing now to
people want I would love to have heated floors in
my bathroom, and and that's that years ago that seemed
to be a big deal. Is that still a big deal.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I don't think it's we offer it, it's not like
a crazy thing to offer. I think it's getting be
more and more of Oh yeah, this is nice, especially
in the master bathroom because now you can program it
so at every weekday at six am, it starts heating,
so when you wake up, the floor is nice and
warm for when you go in there. So it's getting
nicer and more tech savvy, which is makes it better
(44:32):
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
And and John when when we talk about smart technology,
I would think maybe I should continue to talk to
the vice president. Yeah, smart technic, Yeah, okay, most definitely
does the same thing I do.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I get my phone in, you know, your new phone,
and you know it's just a nightmare, been around a bit,
but we got.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Him his new phone. It was because the last one
was just wouldn't turn on. Like he needed a new phone.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And I don't want a new phone because you can't.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's like it's like when I get a new truck.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Everything looks different. It's all the same apps, but they
all look different.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
With with with smart technology nowadays, especially like in the
bathroom of the kitchen, it's amazing the things.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I mean, well, you can turn I can turn my
heat off of my building, my house. I can do
anything I want with my phone, be careful though. You
can push the wrong button and have problems unbelievable. I
can turn off the air conditioning at the lake house
and regret it when I get down there.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Well, and the whole idea of having you know, could
voice control lighting and music in the shower and being
able to do like I just want to get in
the shower and get out right. I wanted to shave.
I want to be done.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
There are people that I want hot water in the shower.
I don't want to talk to my phone to tell
it what temperature is.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I don't want any of that. I just want to
turn them down. But there are people at a younger age,
my kids, they love everything is smart, good, good. Old
Spencer's looking he's you know, that age where he wants
everything nice and easy on his phone. And I'm like, no,
I just like to be able to turn the knob
and get it to where where I want it. And
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I think that the the part of smart technology is that's.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Why I got you know, we got the Narry homeshow
coming up in the fall. This is why that's important
because there's people like me or my wife that want
to see stuff and talk to the people. I don't
want to google it online. Now for the best.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Exact Liza, have you ever been to an airy home show?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
I don't know me.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I'm twenty four, so there's two a year, so that'd
be like forty eight.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
So yeah, a couple.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I've been about forty eight.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
If I had guess, probably at least forty forty five.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
The idea of sitting under the counter and doing your homework.
Now you're standing now I'm.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Sitting there and talking. I'm in the booth by myself, talking.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Your booth number for next month.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
No, I don't yet.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Don't worry. We'll promote it. Yeah, we'll have it.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
We're there, We're there.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
The nice thing about those shows you your father has
convinced me, and the amount of times he's been on
the show, and bingo again. The idea of we're not
for everybody, but come, let us try to earn your
business time and look if there is. If there is,
if we're good, then let us come out and take
a look at it. And if not, it's okay, we'll
recommend a few other people around the show.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And it's you get to talk to the contractors face
to face because we're going to be in your house
for those six to eight or longer weeks depending on
your project.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
And you want to be comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Us and when you're when you go down and you
interviewed them for like relationships, right, Yeah, not everybody's a
good fit exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Hey, John, I see the pride in your eyes. Absolutely,
And I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Next time six months when he's on, she'll be the president.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, and she'll bring in Sam. I'm telling he'll be retired.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
It's not going to happen with that new place, Saint
Martin Road. I can tell you, Liz that your dad
has been really proud of you for as long as
I've known him, and he and I see it now
and and I get it. He's very comfortable that you're
going to be running this company, this company that he
built and your mom have built from the ground floor.
(48:08):
To be able to they he was never going to
just hand it to you. You had to put some
sweat equity and earn his his trust and respect for
a company that obviously, you know, he's got a lot
of love for and he's.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Feeling pretty good from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
You know what, He's going to have a sign on
his door one day it said gone fishing.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Oh yeah. And when his boat finally get it out.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
In the water, finally get it out.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
In the last couple of years, I don't think it's
touched water. But next year he will.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
That first year is going to be hard for him.
You know what, when when he knows that everything's going
well and he's always going to be a phone call away.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
From he'll never fully let go of the business.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
But that's because it's he grew it from the ground up,
so and he shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And he has built a great company. And the reputation
that Navy Construction have is all about trust and communication
and really good work. And when you put those three together, Man,
go to Nami Construction dot com. Lizzen it is so
good to see you.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, I understand, John. She will be the face and
the voice of this company.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And go ahead, tell her she's the.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Fifty one baby, A fifty one coming someday. Nice, Yeah,
someday someday, not today, but some day. Let's keep up
the good work. Yeah, it's really good to see you.
And I got a feeling maybe next time it'll be
you and Sam coming in and John and Diana base
(49:30):
or no, No, they'll be at home listening and making
fun of us, making fun of all of us. Guys.
Is good to see you big go have a good week.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, any racing going on today?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Of course we've got the truck racing a little while,
and then we got the gott ask us tomorrow and
you got back the game that might be might have
to watch. Well, they're back and forth.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I know this that the indie season's over. Why do
you like that?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I know that's why. That's why my sister says we
gotta stick more with the indie she's you know, because
they don't have as many races and ask for us.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
There you go, talks racing every week. I don't know
anything about it. Nothing about it. Guys making I'm making
left turn. They're making one more left turn. John Thiss go,
it's so good to see you. Go. See YouTube. You
get to a break. The other side of the break,
we're gonna talk high school sports and the varsity Blitz.
Our first guest the head football coach at Carthage. So
we'll start a little college and then we're going to
(50:17):
aa YFL talking to some Greendale youth football. On the
other side of the break, this is the creative construction
of Wisconsin Home Improving show on Fox Sports. Signed twenty
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Welcome to the Creative Construction, Wisconsin home improvement show on
Fox Sports Night twenty in your iHeart Radio app coming
live from the Donovan and Jorgenson Heating and Cooling Studios.
Got cold again, thing, Thank goodness. You keep that hoodie
in the.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Keep it just to show you have to wear hoodies.
You have to wear a hoodie and you and I thought,
you know, because we went in a couple of weeks
without it. But well, Camery blamed dominant jorguson.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Well, oh you can't.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, they do a job Spencers a thermostat.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Yeah, I know. And he wasn't here last night to
do the show that he normally, so he'll send me
a text and go, you better wear a hoodie tomorrow.
But he wentn't there, and so I thought, okay, well
I better figure it out. And two of our guests,
the two guests that are in the vice president of
the company, figured it out because she's got a hoodie
on the president of the company went out through his truck.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
He's like, yeah, she's here. Then, yeah, then she brought
one of her helpers.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Yeah, she she brought one of her helpers. I can
tell you this Namey Construction I had John name Me
on a different station home improvement show ten years ago,
and I asked him on the air, I said, hey,
you're any of your kids you think they're get involved?
And he got the sparkle in his eye. He goes,
you know, my daughter, she's really interested in this company.
(01:17):
And we'll see. She's going to go to college, I
would think. And we'll see though, And sure enough the
vice president of Name Me Construction, she said, I have
the title, but I didn't get any more cash. So
we got to talk to the president about that. John Holler,
it's good to see you. It's good to see you too, Mike. Yeah,
and you can move that microphone. We'll just move it
(01:37):
back and forth. Years ago. So ten years ago, eleven
years ago when you told me that, look at this, yep,
vice is that her title? Vice president?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Sure?
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Sure, we gotta get new cards made up. It's kind
of exciting to have Liz here. And she's not so
excited to be She's like, you're doing most of the talking, dad,
And I go, no, that's not going to happen. But
you got to be excited to have your daughter working
alongside you.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I am. It's been a change in the last probably
five years. I mean, Liz came on board and she decided,
and then my son came on board. Wow, he's in
the office. He's always loved the office work.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
And many kind of sounds like your company, Ben.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, we got yeah uptimes as the opposite. Sam's in
the office and Zackson the field.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
What is your son's title?
Speaker 3 (02:30):
Then, if she's VP, what's he Well, he's the office manager.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Okay, does he know that? He does know? Now, Liz,
if you can, it's so good to see you. How
are you. Yeah, that's going to move here. You might
have to hold it as the VP. And we're laughing
about this, but working at Navy Construction. Look, you graduated
from Thomas Moore and went to college thinking I don't
(02:53):
know if I want to be involved in the company.
Year and a half into college, you thought, you know what,
that's what I want to do.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yep. Yeah, when it's always been in my life seeing
dad work, and I was like, I love it, but
I didn't know if I wanted to do it. And
went to college and then my freshman year COVID hit
and I was turned online and I can't do online class,
so I didn't know what I wanted to do. But
when I while I figured it out, I started working
for him just so I had a job and made
some money while I didn't I wasn't doing anything else,
(03:19):
and then.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Never left.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Working from she's involved, he go to Narry events and stuff.
She's yeah, I mean I love it. Yeah, she's a face.
She's the face.
Speaker 5 (03:30):
And created the face.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
So do I.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
But I didn't want to say it. I didn't want
to say.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
That because these shows are recorded her for life.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah. Well, when and I had asked Zach this, and
I asked a number of people, when are you in
the back of your head do you know some of
the things that how you to move this this company
forward and what you're thinking when it's time for you
to take over. Obviously, the template has been set and
(04:05):
it's a company that's doing really well. And the reputation
that your father and the company has is incredible. Oh
and so we don't want to change that. But there's
some things I know. When when when we had Zack
in and he said, look, there are some things that
certainly we want to do and upgrade and get into
(04:26):
today's world as far as on digital and making sure
that everything is is you know set that way? Do
you see some things that one day you'll go, Okay,
we're gonna We're gonna change this when I take over.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Definitely the social media side, I feel like we're he's older,
he doesn't know, he doesn't know at all, but like
getting more pictures taken and posting more so people can
see our jobs and see what we're doing, and not
just have our website, but get the posts out there
so everyone.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
Can see them.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
There you go, yeah, that's uh. We always take pictures
here And Bengo's like, here's why we're taking him because
at the end of the year we post all this
and it's important, I think, to be able to do that.
And he surprises for you. And before we get to that,
what's your day to day? Like are you out on jobs?
Are you swinging a hammer? Are you selling? What things
(05:12):
are you doing?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
When I first started, I was out on the job
swinging hammers, and then I slowly moved into the office
and now I'm more in the office prepping the jobs,
getting all the materials ordered, and then going on appointments
and selling jobs to customers and talking to customers about
what they want done.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Have you gone in the beginning of that, did you
go out with your dad? Because I've watched him in
that he's got such a skill set of his thing is, Look,
we're a really good company, but we're not for everybody,
and spend some time with us. Get a feel because
we're going to date for a while. And he's really good.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
But I think about John, he's honest. Sometimes I might
hurt his company because he's too honest, but he's very
honest and it's great though. You know, I don't mind
recommend him because I know he's honest.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
And you've seen that, and so that that's kind of
the path you're going to want to continue with Navy Construction.
I would think.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Everyone knows our reputation and got to keep that. That's
how he grew the business to where it is.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
So I love that. Not bad for Thomas More girl,
and I'd look, I would trust her. I wouldn't trust
all timas more people, but or I would. Is there
an area in the home that you're most comfortable with?
Like if somebody wants a kitchen, model or a bath
or a basement, is what area in the home are
(06:28):
you most comfortable in?
Speaker 4 (06:30):
For me personally, I think basements and kitchens. I've done
a lot of those, but the whole company kitchens, bathroom
and basements are are kind of bread and butter, and
we do those of the best, but we can we
do it all, but that's what we do best.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
So can you go to somebody's new they bought it
the front of yours bought a new home. Can you
just walk in and have fun at the househoarning party?
Are you looking at every nook and cranny.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
I used to give my.
Speaker 4 (06:53):
Dad so much, but now it's like, no, I got
to look and they all know that I'm and they're like,
just don't tell me anything.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
If it's really bad, tell me.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
But if it's just something's crooked, don't tell me because
I don't need to see it.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Or if you don't like the colors exactly did you
have that gift first?
Speaker 4 (07:12):
The color is not so much putting colors together. That's
my mom. But I know I can tell you when
something's not square or not level, and that he always
did that, and I'm like, can you just stop for once?
But now I'm doing it and it drives me nuts
that I'm doing it now.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
But it's a good thing to know you got to
be able to see that.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
So, yeah, do you think the color thing will come?
Because I don't have it and I envy people that
have it. I just can't if you put up three
different lines, Hey do you want this blue or this
blue or this blue? Until you finish the project and
I'll tell you what I think, which is a horrible
way to be a customer, but that's kind of how
it is for me. And do you think that the
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color part of it will come with the job.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
I think it's coming a little more.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
When we're like ordering all the tile that people pick out,
I can start to finally see it come together and
I can see all this tile is gonna look good
this But at first it was I couldn't.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
I couldn't even tell you what it was.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
So that might be a learned behavior.
Speaker 4 (08:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Maybe as the VP of Naming Construction, if you want
to hire me as a part time, you know, I
can go in and check colors. That's the only way
that maybe I'm going to be able.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
To We want to Kelly green?
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Yeah, everything needs that. Mcgiffern think a little Kelly green
would be awesome? Hey, John, how many employees now it
amy construction?
Speaker 3 (08:28):
We have. What do we have seven out in the
field and four in the office? No five out in
the field.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
To think about it, I remember back in the day,
it was like there's three of you, and now it's.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's that's one of our biggest challenges is to find
more employees in the right kind of employees.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
I mean, what part of the yeah, yeah, every week?
What part Well, what's interesting is last night and the
silent reporter for the high school football game of the weekend,
I was interviewing and what time you're on with that
six point thirty one Channel twenty four pregame with Mike
mcgiffrett seven o'clock kickoff. Next week, we're gonna be out
(09:12):
in Pewaukee, which is a really nice drive for me.
It's about four minutes and it'll be mcguanaga at Pewaukee.
But we're talking to somebody in a different industry. But
and he said, look at a car dealership. There's I'm
the service technician and I need I need high school
kids to want to get involved in this. But there's
a lot of things you can do, and I think
(09:36):
in your company as well, right front office sales and
then swinging a hammer and getting the work done. There's
a lot of different.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
Positions parts of the construction. You can bet a carpenter,
you can be the drywall, you can be a finisher.
There's a finished carpenter. There's a plumber, as electrician. There's
so many different things you can pick of different things
that you could like to do. You know, it's not
the same company.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
And look and please don't be a but your daughter
is quite a bit younger than all of us. And
for her to be able to talk to me, to
be for yourself, then go. She's able to talk to
kids a little bit younger, I think, and get them
to understand that this is a career, not just a
part time job or a job where you know, now
(10:19):
you're looking for something else. This is something that you
start and if you're doing a good job and working hard,
you can have a career.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Absolutely. We've been involved with the youth apprenticeship program in
the high schools and it's been really great. I mean
we will get a youth usually one or two a year,
you know, and sometimes they work out. Sometimes one of
them will work out.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
We had one that was in Franklin High School and
he all through his junior year and senior year, Drew
was working for us and then he graduated, and then
he went off to trade school. He wanted to get
more education, and I told him, you know, when you
get done, I want you to come back. You are
(11:07):
a valuable employee.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And he had the good work ethic John. What did
he do for those his junior and senior year in
high school? What kind of was he swinging a hammer?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
He was out in the field swinging a hammer half
a day, you know, and it varied. Sometimes it was
in the morning, sometimes it was in the afternoon.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But he showed up every day.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Absolutely. You know amazing how that works. If you show
up every day, you have a job.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Well, right, you know, we've had Tom Herman, correct, because
we've always had youth friends somebody and every once in
a while you found a golden nugget, one that stays. Yeah,
that's it, and it's it's it's always a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
When he went to school, Drew is who we're talking about.
Did he Is he going forward to be an electrician,
a carpenter or no.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
He wants to be in the construction trade. He went
the classes he took. There were some cabinet making and
you know, finished carpentry. They also did some more home building.
You know, Franklin, I think they're building a house. They
build a house every year in the class. Wow, I know.
Oh Creek does the same thing.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
Has awesome, awesome and awesome tech program.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
Question. Do you know I think that that the kids
that like this, true kid, that know what they want
to do right and and go look at here, here's
I'm going to start it as a junior in high school,
get some experience, make a little bit of money. My
buddies are working at Culver's or McDonald's or picking save,
which is great. But this is the he started his
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career knowing what he wanted to do and the fact
that he showed up every day. I think that that's
the key. And if you show up every day and
put a little sweat equity into a company, you can
get a lot out of it.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh yeah, I mean, and he's been phenomenal for the company.
You know. Now he's back with us full time, and
you know, we're doing what we can do to nurture
that relationship, to keep him happy, you know, because there's
jobs out there. You know, I don't want him jumping
ship and going someplace else, you know, but he's just
been phenomenal and big.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Oh it's it's funny because each week on the show,
we could do a full segment on whoever our guest is.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Looking for competent work right and and we're not in
the competency has changed right now. If you have a
driver licensing, you have a vehicle and you gonna show
up to the job, you're pretty high up there.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Pretty high way up there, way up there, Hey lizen,
if we can move as the vice president of naming construction,
and we're going this is live and we're gonna I'm
gonna get you this the recording on this so he
ever says you're not the bit, Yes I am here.
It is what what keeps you up at night with
with this company? Like what? And I would assume now
(13:55):
that you've been at it for a while, not many
sleepless nights, but I would assume you started so sleepless
nights as far as where you fit in, what your
job title, what your role is going to be and
how and as the owner's daughter, right, you got to
be a little you're walking on eggshells around some employees
that have been there a while, going oh, great, here
we go. I'm wondering what kept you up or keeps
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you up at night.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
It was figuring out what I wanted to do, because
he's always said, you can be in the field, or
you can be in the office, and you can hire
the other part. You're the owner. You can pick what
you want to do. You just have to figure out
what you want to do so we can train you
in that. But you need to know both sides. So
that was more of a figuring out what I want
to do. But now I know I love talking to
customers and I love ordering the materials and setting all
(14:39):
that stuff up.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
So that's where I want to be.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Do you miss Did you miss swinging the hammer at all?
Speaker 5 (14:43):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (14:44):
And no. I've always loved it. I've done it since
I was a kid, so I know I can do it.
I bought a house like a year ago, so I'm
working on doing that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
So how far from your mom and dad's.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
How like fifteen twenty minutes is perfect? Yeah, southside of
Milwaukee area.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
And I when we're on eighty eighth in Townsend and
your dad was at our house, my son lived twenty
minutes away. He lived off eighty fourth in Oklahoma. We
moved to Milwaukee. The following weekend, him and his wife
moved to Waukesha, twenty minutes away, and I go, hey,
he goes, I don't want to live in Mcgiffernville twenty
minutes because my daughter used to live kitty corner from
(15:22):
us and now they live right down Capitol and they're
like eight minutes away. And he's like, twenty's perfect to twenty.
You can't just pop over that. You got to actually,
you know, call us and say hey, we're coming over.
And I said, I don't want to live, so twenty
minutes is perfect, right, Yes, you're buying your first How
old are you? Twenty four and you bought your first house? Yes, congratulations?
(15:45):
How's that feel?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
It was amazing.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
It was my aunt's duplex and she didn't want to
be a landlord, and I knew, because I'm taking over
this business, I'm going to be in Wisconsin. So getting
a duplex to have a tenant and get another source
of income was what I wanted.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
So it worked out well.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
If people don't realize that when you go into the trades,
you see she's bout a house. You know that that's
on a second house, right, Right, He's on a second house.
Sam's got a house, right, All the kids were her house.
Johnny's got everybody in our company. I mean they all,
I mean they have they have things, and they usually
have more money than their friends.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, and they're not paying back home. You might be
still paying back alone or two. But hey, John, at
twenty four, she's she's a little ahead of where some
of us were at twenty four, ahead where I was.
I didn't want to assume maybe No, I didn't want
to assume because maybe you had three houses when.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
You were when I was twenty four, I didn't have
a clue, didn't know what I wanted to do, you know,
and bounced around and did this and that, and one
of the things that finally showed up. I mean I
have been remodeling and working on people's houses since I
was a teenager. You know. One of the my neighborhood
(17:01):
guys in the neighborhood, you know, was a master carpenter
and he did projects and I would help him, and
I've always loved that. When I was like eighteen years old,
I built a garage for the guy next door. He's like, hey,
I want to build this garage, you know, can you
help me? Well, the helping him turned into doing it
(17:23):
because I mean, Sid was a great guy, but he
had no carpentery skills. You know, he had other skills, but.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
It wasn't in this feature, John, do you know how
many people behind my back has said that? And one
writes my face? Who is Zach Emmons? Because again we
deal with commercial that My wife has him on speed
down because anytime I try to do a home improvement
project on my own, she calls him halfway through and says,
get ready to come help him because he's there's no
chance he's getting this done right. And so that whole
(17:52):
not having that skills set and Lizard, what's funny is
my father was a bricklayer and a mason. He wanted
one of his boys. There's four of us and two
daughters he had, but he wanted one of his boys
to follow in his footsteps. And he sat and he said,
you're going to tech. You're the youngest mcgiffern and you're
going to follow my footsteps. No chance, uh huh. And
he had no patience to teach us. Your father had
(18:14):
some patience.
Speaker 5 (18:15):
To teach you, right, yeah, he taught us. Bryan brother
and I growing up.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
We'd redd our bathroom when I was five or six,
and he taught me how to tile. He sat on
a bucket and cut all the pieces, but I was
putting all the tile up.
Speaker 5 (18:26):
So he was never afraid to teach.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
He had the patience. Oh yes, you know, I knew,
Like if my dad would say, hey, you're not going
to the playground today, You're going to stay here and
help me with this, and he'd say, go get me
a fill of screwdriver. I knew what one was, but
I'd bring him the wrong one, so he'd yell at
me and say, just get out of here. I'm not
doing that. So I'd go to the playground and look,
I thought I was going to the NBA. That didn't happen.
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You know, I'm a five ten, slow white kid, so
that wasn't gonna happen. But in my mind, what do
I need to get you the right screwdriver for? I'm
not doing that stuff. I'm going to the NBA. And that, look,
he knew better. He knew that was not gonna happen. Guys,
We're gonna get to a break other side of the
break I have a number of dues and don't when
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you're gonna redo your kitchen and I want to ask
you and both John and Liz. I said, Liz, I'm
gonna do this as she goes, you're talking to my
dad on that one. I'm gonna ask both of you
in studio the entire hour our special guests, John and Liz.
Name me from NAMI Construction. John's the owner, Liz's the
vice president. I don't know which one's higher. We'll figure
that out. Go to Namy Construction dot com nameI Construction
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dot com for more information. This is the Creative Construction
Wisconsin Home improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty and
your iHeartRadio App. Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin
Home improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty and your
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get the furnace turn on, but you're gonna have to
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go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com. The largest employee owned
h FAC company in the state of Wisconsin. I'm Mike
McGivern alongside my co host. He's the owner of Creative Construction, Wisconsin.
He is Bingo Emmons, Bingo. I gotta, I gotta thank you.
(20:16):
Last week's Faith in the Zone, we had a chaplain
from Indy Car Racing Ministry and I want to thank
you for that introduction. What a great guy.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, you can tell you he's like a California surfer boy.
But yes, but I mean he's really I mean people.
I mean, before you you go and you go to
the grid, you know, because I'm on the grid. When
you start the racing. You go around and he is,
He stops sing, does a little prayer with everybody, and
there's a lot of respect for him.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He wants me to come next year and hang out
with him.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Okay, well, first of all, you know what we do
the broad party to tell.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
You you've better make a couple extra broads because I
can eat a few of those.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
I can.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, they love that. It's our highlight. We do the
bronze and a cheese kurts and they love that.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
He said, you know what, if you've never been and
never even watched a race, please up. He said, this
gives you a whole different Idea said, it's sitting at
your home watching it on TV. Just come and experience
with me. And I said, you know what, I'll do that.
The other part they do, which is really impressive is
they reach out to local churches and they have local
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churches come to hand out tracks and bibles to people
that are coming to see this this retired show car
and then getting people to come to their local church.
And I was just really impressed with them.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
So they're not they're not pushy. They're not pushy at all.
They're just like, you know, if you want to, you
can help you out.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
Come on over. Yeah, you bet, that's awesome. Hey, Liz,
so I know that you will. We'll have your dad
join us as well. But doing some research for the show,
there was a number of things dos and don't and
and we're going to talk a little bit about when
you're when you're going to do a remodel project, some
of the dues and don'ts. One of the things, the
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number one thing is don't neglect your budget. And I
know that in your in your industry, and you have
to be comfortable asking people what the budget is because
everybody's afraid to give you the truth. If they tell
you twenty five thousand, they probably have forty, but they're
not going to tell you.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
That's what happens with the people of the budget. They're
afraid to tell you. And it's always the same thing, right,
they're afraid to tell you because they're afraid to get Well,
whatever your budget is, but no, you want what the
budget is because it's a real number. And for some reason,
people are afraid to tell you what their budget is,
right because they think you're gonna mark it up.
Speaker 1 (22:27):
If they say forty, you're gonna spend off forty. Have
you gotten comfortable in your role as the vice president?
Notice how many times I've said that as the vice
president may be construction as a twenty four year old,
which is really impressive. We just bought your first house,
which is really impressive. Are you comfortable now in that
setting of sitting at somebody's kitchen table and asking what's
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your budget and just be honest with me?
Speaker 4 (22:53):
Still getting used to it because it's always weird talking money.
You don't really talk money with people, but it's weird.
But like you said, you need to know because that's
how we give you your best project. We want to
know what your budget is, so we can get you
what you want.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
For that price.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah. I ask this every week, but I got to
ask you these TV shows that people watch, right, is
that good for your business or bad for your business.
Speaker 5 (23:15):
It's good for people to get ideas.
Speaker 4 (23:17):
It's bad for when they use it for their budget
because it's almost always totally wrong and way under and
people don't realize that. And then we give them our
bids and they start picking stuff out and they're like, oh,
I didn't realize it was that expensive.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah, well, well we did hope that bathrooms gonna cost
seventeen thousand dollars. Not in Wisconsin. I'll take it.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Asks right. No. Another The next one is don't And
again there's a number of things, but I want to
jump to a few. Don't do not position essential appliances
against a wall so that obviously is a kitchen. Don't
place elements in the work triangle far from each other.
Don't emphasize it's.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Well, let's explain to work your triangle. I don't want
to work angle is, but our listeners probably.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Don't really because okay, do you know what the work? Okay,
what do you know what the word I'm going to
John Namy because Liz pointed at John.
Speaker 6 (24:09):
Liz was like, point like, hey, don't ask me McGivern.
I walked out of here my hand remember one of
my if you had her hands, like in the place
where it was nice and warm, and all of a
sudden they popped out quick.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
And I know all that stuff because back in the
day when I took my cr thing, he was one
of the teachers. So, I mean, so I know this.
It was a test question.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
Okay, So let's talk about do not place elements in
the work triangle far from each other?
Speaker 3 (24:36):
John, So let's start this notes what the work triangle is,
thank you. That is the triangle with the stove, the refrigerator,
in the kitchen, sink, because when you're in the kitchen cooking,
you're bouncing around that triangle to prep your food and
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get everything going. So you don't want things you don't
want it too far away. You don't want the refrigerator
on the other side of your kitchen.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Hey, John, it's almost like you wrote the answer on
this thing. I mean, I know, I'm telling you. You
know it talks about the sink, the refrigerator triangle with
sides that are not far apart from each other, making
it easy to move around the kitchen. There are exceptions,
but the work triangle is a very useful tool for
the kitchen design.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I'm like, if you don't believe how many notes if
you have an islander, if you have an island, right,
it can't be like sticking to the triangle like more
than a foot right, there's rules that there are rules.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
I mean, you want to be able to take the
stuff out of the refrigerator, set it on the island,
but you don't want to walk around a six foot
island to get to the sink.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Hey, Liz, when you're in somebody's living room or kitchen
and we're talking more about kitchens in this segment, and
they come up with an idea that you just are thinking,
is it hard because it's their kitchen, it's not your kitchen.
But when you know, for instance, if they if this
work triangle they were going to have, it was not
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going to be effective and not work well in that kitchen.
Are you comfortable enough right now, early in this career
as a VP of Namy Construction to be able to say, hey, listen,
I'm not quite sure. Let me give you a second
thought on that.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
Yeah, it's always hard because it's their idea, but you
want to make sure at the end of the day,
they put a lot of money into the kitchen.
Speaker 5 (26:28):
You want to make sure it works well for them.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And they're relying on us to give them our thoughts
and our ideas too, because we've been in the industry
for so long, or my dad's been in the industry
for so long.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Well, they construction, your company's been a long time. So
another one. And I'm going to stay with you on this.
Don't emphasize inspirational wants over practical needs because a year
from now that inspiration might go away and now you're
stuck with this for a while.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
My favorite is they saw it on Pinterest. It looks
great on a computer and your screen in our picture,
but not on there. It won't look like that in
their kitchen.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Yeah, and everything comes and goes. So we always tell
our customers. They always ask, go what's in, and it's like, Okay,
this is in. But if you don't want it, you
don't need to have it.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
It's your kitchen.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
And if you sell the house, the next person can
redesign if they don't like the colors you pick.
Speaker 5 (27:17):
But it's your kitchen, so get what you want.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
So if I have you come in and I want
shake carpeting, that probably yeah, maybe yeah, you know, for
the quiet, we'll.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Explain why it's not the best.
Speaker 4 (27:28):
But if that's really what you want and you want
to pay for it, it's like I said, it's your house,
so we'll always explant.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
That's why I see where someone's like, yeah, we want
carpeting in a bathroom. Oh boy, and you're just like, okay, yeah,
are you sure about that? You know, you better call
this other guy because I can't.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Do and liszt for me, and I've told the story
one hundred times. We're putting new cabinets in and all
we had to do was pick the hardware, my wife
and I and we're going to dinner. Before we went
to dinner, we went to a big box store and
I thought, well, they'll be fifteen options. I'll pick one
and we're out of here. I was in the fetal
position in the car rocking, going please please just pick something, Terry.
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I had to leave. There's too many. It was overwhelming.
So to have somebody like you to be able to say, okay,
here are some options for you. Give me three and
let me pick one. Don't give me a thousand and
say go pick one because I can't. It's too much
for me. Plus I was hungry and I wanted to go.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Right, you're hungry, yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, ta huckster.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
That's what I call my wife, Terry, the hungry monster
if she gets hungry. Last one on the don't park.
Don't rush the process. And I want to read this
to you. Especially kitchen renovations usually require homeowners, their families,
and their pets live without a kitchen for a while, right,
which can be really stressful. Let's make sure we don't
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rush the project and make sure that you're prepared to
last through any frustrating delays because that you have to
work through that with customers. It's like a roller coaster, right,
all of a sudden, they don't see they don't think
you guys are getting through the project.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
Times I'll see it. I mean they'll set it up
so like the living room as the microwave, and I
mean in the basement.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
A lot of people move their stuff down in the
basement because it's easy and it's open and there's outlets
and stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
But when when you talk to somebody and they sign
the contract. How open are you as far as the
timeline and who are you there? Are you the person
if you sell me a project? Are you my contact?
Speaker 4 (29:36):
At Naming Construction, I'm one of and then our lead
carpenter you'll have their contact and you'll have John's contact.
So we try and give the customers as many contacts
because it's a remoling project.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Nothing ever goes perfectly.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We're working with an existing house, so given them as
many options, but we're also very open. We tell them
it's going to be four to six, six, eight weeks because.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
That's how long it's going to be.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
We don't want them to plan for six and then
it goes to eight because they didn't know.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
So we we had our bathroom kind of redone, and
we had had other work done in the house. What
I was really impressed with with the company that came
and did our bath was the amount of communication that
they had with my wife. My wife works out of
her home and every morning and look, I had to
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go shower over at a place I was working out,
and I didn't. I was like, guys, you got to
get this thing done, like I can't. I can't they're naked.
Tan Man was always there and I wrote a song
about him by the way, and he would I just
didn't want to do that, and they in a weak
time they came and did this. But every morning my
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wife would get either a text or a phone call. Hey,
at ten o'clock, we've got this guy. And they knew
she was going to be at home, but they wanted
her to have really knowledge on here's when people are
going to be and here's what they're doing in your home.
And when you have that kind of communication with the
company that's doing in the work, it sure puts you
at ease.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
Oh yeah, you don't. Customers don't know the whole process.
Speaker 4 (31:05):
They don't know who's coming one because they don't do this,
they don't do this for their living. So trying to
give them as much information as they can so they
know the process makes them always feel more at ease.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
One hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
And what happens is in construction now it's usually it's
not the contractor, it's the homeowner says, hey, I don't
want anybody in my house tomorrow. Right, that's the only data.
Plumber can show up now now he doesn't can't show
up for two more weeks. The whole job gets delayed, right,
and it's it's it's always the order selections, right. They say, well, yeah,
I need to know the color in the next two weeks,
and you call them in two weeks later he goes, yeah,
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give me in our week.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Everything, when you tell somebody it's going to be an
eight week project, even though you think you know it's
probably going to be six weeks, you add a little
to buffer in case of issues, because, like you said,
in every construction job, you're going to come up with something.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
That's why we normally give a range, because because you
never know. And like with the kitchen, the countertops have
to be measured last, so that's always there's a weird
time of the kitchen looks done basically, but the countertops
aren't in.
Speaker 5 (32:08):
So it's always.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Letting them know it's gonna look done, but then it's
gonna sit for a little bit because.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
It has to wait.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
The countertop company won't even work on it until all
the cabinets are in place, and.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
The cabinets have to go in after the flooring's and
so it's always, I.
Speaker 3 (32:21):
Mean, when you rush the whole process, especially the design phase.
You know, we'll go out and talk to a homeowner
and they've been thinking about this for six months, two years,
whatever it is. And then when they want to sign
a design contract, they want to happen overnight, and it's like, no,
it's gonna take some time. We need to take time
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to work through the design. If you don't work through
the design process properly, that's when you're setting yourself up
for problems during construction. Yeah, you know, we want everything
on order. We want them to go out and select
their slabs for their countertops before we even start demo
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in Wow. And the slabs are at the fabricators so
that when we're ready for them to come out and measure,
they already have the slabs on site. They come out
and measure, you know, it depends on their fabrication schedule.
I've had them come out on Monday and measure and
install on Friday. Wow. That's unusual. It usually takes a
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couple of weeks. But you know, they had a lull.
They got in there and got it. You know, we
didn't have to measure and then we had to move
slabs around. We had them there waiting for them.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
So Hey, a couple of things on the DO, Right,
we talked about do not, but a couple of things
on the DO that I think are really interesting to me.
Do you consider the timeless over the trendy? Right? I
mean there's a on this show we talk about trends
a lot, and normally the second hand half of the year, right,
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we'll talk about it like this time of year. What
do you think in twenty twenty six, And we'll have
some designers sitting where you're sitting, lives and they'll say, well,
next year, it's really dark gray seems to be the trend.
And I don't know if it's in a year later
it hits here, right, it's it's on the coast and
in the west coast, East coast. It looks like dark
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gray is coming back and we'll see it in a year.
And so let's consider the timeless over the trendy is
number one? And you'll love this. Do do account for
surprise costs? Because again, our budget's forty thousand dollars, but
we got to make sure. Look, the whole project's probably
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going to come in at thirty two thousand, but let's
make sure that we have that eight thousand available for
any surprise, cost something. Everybody never know what it is right,
and everybody wants you open concept now right.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
But I was gonna say it is up. Especially when
you work an old home. They'll have a house and
is a regularly say also in the find out that
the house is still on not being too wearing parts
of it.
Speaker 5 (35:03):
We had that we opened.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
They wanted some drywall repair and we took it down
and we were like, we can't. You don't want this
in your house, like this is not safe. So it
always something always.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
You can't insulate.
Speaker 1 (35:14):
It always comes with surprise, cous that that's got to
be hard for you excuse me to be able to
go to somebody mid projects and go, look, you wanted
this open concept. We didn't realize when we took this
wall down what we were going to come up with.
And to be able to go to them and say, look,
we need to add to the budget or take something
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away from from the plant, and that's got to be
an uncomfortable conversation.
Speaker 5 (35:39):
It's always hard.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
That's why John's always pretty good at kind of expecting
worst case scenarios so we can prepare as much as
we can and look all throughout the house to get
any clues of what we might find in there, so
we try to prevent it as well.
Speaker 2 (35:53):
As it's the typical this is what the kids do,
right he just said, Johnny, Okay, that's what you know what?
I better call my dad?
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt a couple other ones on the
de right, do remember storage because I don't know if
everybody that's at the top of everybody's list. Do browse
kitchen remodeled portfolios, take a look and come into our
meeting with some ideas. It used to be, well you're
the expert, what do you think In today's world, they
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have forty seven different ideas, as Bengo talked about from
Pinterest and other places you can find it and these
TV shows, well they got it done in thirty minutes.
How long is it going to take you to get
but certainly browse different portfolios. Do you think about walkways
and paths and do add plenty of lighting? I think
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that's different than years ago where people didn't you know,
you had two or three choices when it came to lighting,
and now lighting is it's such a big part of it, so.
Speaker 5 (36:50):
Many options for everything, which makes it hard.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
But that's why we always say go on Pinterest and
look at multiple different pictures of what you like and
we can pick from this picture of the life or
the colors from this and kind of build your kitchen
from there.
Speaker 1 (37:03):
Hey, before we get to your break, do you have
a favorite project that you've been involved in and you
don't have to name the people, but you have one
where you go back and go. If I had to
show one of mine, one that I've been involved in
from start to finish, this is the one I would show.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
I think it was one of the first ones where
I was fully start to finish and it was a
big basement and the customers are awesome. But it was
also I learned framing and I learned a little bit
of everything, and that's when I kind of clicked, like, yeah,
I do like doing this. And that one I was
on the appointments and I sold the job. But then
I also worked in the field, so it was a full,
full start to finish, not just on the job but
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in the office as well.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
So that was always my favorite.
Speaker 1 (37:44):
The best part is when it's done and you get
a chance to come and show it and make sure
they're happy. Yep, Because during that the six to eight
twelve week date that you're doing. There might be some
arguments and I'm going to break up with you know
you're not going to break up with any kind of thing,
and then they give you a hugg and go it's perfect,
(38:05):
exactly what we're hoping for. That's got to the drive
home from there's got to feel.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
It's always amazing when you go on the final appointment
and they're just happy and they love to walk you
around and show you everything that they love about it.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
The compliment to me is when they refer you. That's
always a compliment. Because every job has a problem, it's
how you handle it in your relationship. And because that's
I guess some people that call us up and says,
you know, you guys have some problems with this, and
the only reason why I use you because I call
you up and took care of it.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
Yeah, I think that's really important. I have a client
through the mcgivernern agency who they were interviewing through or
four different companies to do this, and when they hired us,
they said, look, the reason we hired you is we
feel like you're one of us. And that go, what
does that mean? And they said, if there's an issue.
You're going to come right to us, tell us what
the problem was and what the options are, and fix it.
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And you're not going to hide it and not going
to run from it. And if all of a sudden
two months later we find out, we feel like you're
not going to do that. So the communication part is
the key to this. And if you make a mistake,
own up to it and fix it.
Speaker 4 (39:12):
Keeping the honesty and the relationship with the customer is
the biggest thing.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
Hey, we're gonna get We got to get your break.
But I have to ask you this on my high
school show. Your father and your mother, who I've known
for a long time, had that, and certainly your uncle Ron,
who I know really well, have that servant leadership Hart,
And that's the learned behavior. Where do you think you
got that from.
Speaker 4 (39:32):
I think both of my parents, like you said, they
always have it, and they've they've always had it, so
growing up that's how they raise me. And it's always
if you can help someone, help them, and if you
can't you can't, but be honest because you don't want
to try and help them, then not be able to,
but always try and help the best you can.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
So the Creative Construction. And I say this almost every week.
Has that right their company? The mission statement behind their company,
behind deb and behind Bingo is and it came from
their dad. It came from Bingo's dad. I believe we're
going to give back to her community. One thing that
I yell at them about is they don't tell anybody
about it, and they do all this stuff. And look
(40:07):
at John's laughing right now, the same thing because your
mom and dad want to always give back to the
community and help people, but we don't need to talk
about it. And that was a break about it one
hundred percent, one hundred percent. So I congratulate you for that,
and I congratulate your mom and dad for that. And
your you know, your dad says your mom's the boss,
(40:29):
He's the boss. But no, she's homeshake, you know, on
the ball. You know, how is she.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
Feeling by the very good you ever go to the show, Yeah,
Diane's Diane's the boss.
Speaker 5 (40:42):
Everyone knows Diane.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
Yeah, no argument for me.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
No, you know what, we go to a break, John's like,
just I'm the man in my house.
Speaker 5 (40:51):
No, she signs the paycheck.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
As the vice president of Navy, and you're right there.
I gotta be with you. I'm glad she's feeling better,
and yeah good, I tell her. I say hello. By
the way, let's get you a break the other side
of the break, Liz, name me VP of Namy Construction.
Her dad. I don't know what he does over there,
but he by the way.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You like the eight you said, VP?
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You guys, Okay, yeah, there it is another race forty
eight bucks. Hey, you guys are moving maybe at the
end of the year. You guys bought a building.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
We did buy a building and we're remodeling it now
and you're huh, we are.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
We are looking forward to an open house invitation.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, I'll be there. Okay. You know Saint Martin Road
in Franklin hues the older, older building.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
It's one hundred year old building. It started out as
a general store in Franklin.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
Then you must have a real good seat for the
same mine's fair.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
We're front row and center. If you want space, we
got space for Saint Martin.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
You got a parking lot. You can probably you know
where the forty eight the race can come from. There
you go, Hi, ten bucks apart ten bucks. All the
money goes to the vice president there you go. Nine.
By the way, this is the Creative Construction of a
Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports side twenty and
your iHeartRadio App. Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin
(42:19):
home improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty in your
iHeart Radio app. Coming live from the Donovan and Jorganson
Heating and Colleen Studios. Mike mcgiven alongside Bingo Emmons. He
is the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin. Our special guest
in studio, Man, I like these guys, John and Liz
Namey VP. Sorry, fifty, there you go. I won't do
(42:41):
any more, John, I promise. Yeah, I doubt that even
fifty idea. That's not a bit, you know it is not.
Go to Nami Construction dot com. Nami Construction dot com.
And I can tell you the beginning of next year,
you'll be able to.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
Go over to there.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Na.
Speaker 2 (42:55):
You can go there and say you heard it on
the show. She gets a raise, gut.
Speaker 1 (43:00):
Yeah, yeah, you look at her. Hey, next time, bring salmon, Actually, Litz,
you should bring salmon and we can talk sibling rivalry
and all that Marquette times, all of that. Hey, I
got a text, I've got a friend who's redoing a bathroom,
and the question is like how long a master bath?
(43:21):
How long can can he expect if he if he
hires Namy construction, a project like that would.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Take a full gut It can be three to five weeks,
with that last week being that countertop wing for the countertop.
But if it's just like the drywall saying we're just
getting new stuff, two to three weeks, depending on how far.
Speaker 5 (43:41):
Of a project or how big of a project it is.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
Yeah, it really depends if it's the master if it's a.
Speaker 2 (43:46):
Second, if you're moving drains around and doing stuff like that.
You know, the problem is you got those companies that
you know, those slap fitters where we call those things
where you slip stuff over the top of stuff and
then you regret it, you know two years later. Yeah,
that's the problem with those things.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
Here, there's some trends lists that you're seeing now to
people want I would love to have heated floors in
my bathroom, and and that's that years ago that seemed
to be a big deal. Is that still a big deal.
Speaker 4 (44:11):
I don't think it's we offer it, it's not like
a crazy thing to offer. I think it's getting be
more and more of Oh yeah, this is nice, especially
in the master bathroom because now you can program it
so at every weekday at six am, it starts heating,
so when you wake up, the floor is nice and
warm for when you go in there. So it's getting
nicer and more tech savvy, which is makes it better
(44:32):
for everyone.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
And and John when when we talk about smart technology,
I would think maybe I should continue to talk to
the vice president. Yeah, smart technic, Yeah, okay, most definitely
does the same thing I do.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
I get my phone in, you know, your new phone,
and you know it's just a nightmare, been around a bit,
but we got.
Speaker 4 (44:57):
Him his new phone. It was because the last one
was just wouldn't turn on. Like he needed a new phone.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
And I don't want a new phone because you can't.
Speaker 5 (45:05):
You know.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
It's like it's like when I get a new truck.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
Everything looks different. It's all the same apps, but they
all look different.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
With with with smart technology nowadays, especially like in the
bathroom of the kitchen, it's amazing the things.
Speaker 2 (45:18):
I mean, well, you can turn I can turn my
heat off of my building, my house. I can do
anything I want with my phone, be careful though. You
can push the wrong button and have problems unbelievable. I
can turn off the air conditioning at the lake house
and regret it when I get down there.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
Well, and the whole idea of having you know, could
voice control lighting and music in the shower and being
able to do like I just want to get in
the shower and get out right. I wanted to shave.
I want to be done.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
There are people that I want hot water in the shower.
I don't want to talk to my phone to tell
it what temperature is.
Speaker 1 (45:53):
I don't want any of that. I just want to
turn them down. But there are people at a younger age,
my kids, they love everything is smart, good, good. Old
Spencer's looking he's you know, that age where he wants
everything nice and easy on his phone. And I'm like, no,
I just like to be able to turn the knob
and get it to where where I want it. And
(46:13):
I think that the the part of smart technology is that's.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Why I got you know, we got the Narry homeshow
coming up in the fall. This is why that's important
because there's people like me or my wife that want
to see stuff and talk to the people. I don't
want to google it online. Now for the best.
Speaker 1 (46:29):
Exact Liza, have you ever been to an airy home show?
Speaker 4 (46:31):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (46:31):
I don't know me.
Speaker 4 (46:32):
I'm twenty four, so there's two a year, so that'd
be like forty eight.
Speaker 5 (46:36):
So yeah, a couple.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
I've been about forty eight.
Speaker 5 (46:39):
If I had guess, probably at least forty forty five.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
The idea of sitting under the counter and doing your homework.
Now you're standing now I'm.
Speaker 5 (46:47):
Sitting there and talking. I'm in the booth by myself, talking.
Speaker 2 (46:50):
Your booth number for next month.
Speaker 5 (46:52):
No, I don't yet.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
Don't worry. We'll promote it. Yeah, we'll have it.
Speaker 5 (46:57):
We're there, We're there.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
The nice thing about those shows you your father has
convinced me, and the amount of times he's been on
the show, and bingo again. The idea of we're not
for everybody, but come, let us try to earn your
business time and look if there is. If there is,
if we're good, then let us come out and take
a look at it. And if not, it's okay, we'll
recommend a few other people around the show.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
And it's you get to talk to the contractors face
to face because we're going to be in your house
for those six to eight or longer weeks depending on
your project.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
And you want to be comfortable with.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Us and when you're when you go down and you
interviewed them for like relationships, right, Yeah, not everybody's a
good fit exactly.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Hey, John, I see the pride in your eyes. Absolutely,
And I can tell you that.
Speaker 2 (47:40):
Next time six months when he's on, she'll be the president.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, and she'll bring in Sam. I'm telling he'll be retired.
Speaker 3 (47:45):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (47:47):
It's not going to happen with that new place, Saint
Martin Road. I can tell you, Liz that your dad
has been really proud of you for as long as
I've known him, and he and I see it now
and and I get it. He's very comfortable that you're
going to be running this company, this company that he
built and your mom have built from the ground floor.
(48:08):
To be able to they he was never going to
just hand it to you. You had to put some
sweat equity and earn his his trust and respect for
a company that obviously, you know, he's got a lot
of love for and he's.
Speaker 5 (48:19):
Feeling pretty good from the ground up.
Speaker 1 (48:21):
You know what, He's going to have a sign on
his door one day it said gone fishing.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Oh yeah. And when his boat finally get it out.
Speaker 1 (48:27):
In the water, finally get it out.
Speaker 4 (48:29):
In the last couple of years, I don't think it's
touched water. But next year he will.
Speaker 1 (48:33):
That first year is going to be hard for him.
You know what, when when he knows that everything's going
well and he's always going to be a phone call away.
Speaker 5 (48:40):
From he'll never fully let go of the business.
Speaker 4 (48:42):
But that's because it's he grew it from the ground up,
so and he shouldn't.
Speaker 1 (48:47):
And he has built a great company. And the reputation
that Navy Construction have is all about trust and communication
and really good work. And when you put those three together, Man,
go to Nami Construction dot com. Lizzen it is so
good to see you.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
Good to see you.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, I understand, John. She will be the face and
the voice of this company.
Speaker 3 (49:06):
And go ahead, tell her she's the.
Speaker 1 (49:10):
Fifty one baby, A fifty one coming someday. Nice, Yeah,
someday someday, not today, but some day. Let's keep up
the good work. Yeah, it's really good to see you.
And I got a feeling maybe next time it'll be
you and Sam coming in and John and Diana base
(49:30):
or no, No, they'll be at home listening and making
fun of us, making fun of all of us. Guys.
Is good to see you big go have a good week.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
Yeah you too.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
Yeah, any racing going on today?
Speaker 2 (49:39):
Of course we've got the truck racing a little while,
and then we got the gott ask us tomorrow and
you got back the game that might be might have
to watch. Well, they're back and forth.
Speaker 1 (49:47):
I know this that the indie season's over. Why do
you like that?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
I know that's why. That's why my sister says we
gotta stick more with the indie she's you know, because
they don't have as many races and ask for us.
Speaker 1 (49:57):
There you go, talks racing every week. I don't know
anything about it. Nothing about it. Guys making I'm making
left turn. They're making one more left turn. John Thiss go,
it's so good to see you. Go. See YouTube. You
get to a break. The other side of the break,
we're gonna talk high school sports and the varsity Blitz.
Our first guest the head football coach at Carthage. So
we'll start a little college and then we're going to
(50:17):
aa YFL talking to some Greendale youth football. On the
other side of the break, this is the creative construction
of Wisconsin Home Improving show on Fox Sports. Signed twenty
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