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March 22, 2025 • 46 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports ninety twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming
live from the Donovan to Jorgensen Hitting and Cooling Studios.
You're gonna turn your AC on soon. When you do.
If something is not working right, go to donovid Jorgenson
dot com. They've been around celebrating forty years of helping

(00:22):
our community. Thanks for joining us on. Mike McGivern alongside
my co host. He's the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
He is Bingo Emmons. How did the Saint Patrick Stay
Grade go last?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
That was awesome? It was awesome. Short about fifty cookies
of them? Yeah, well yeah, we had a couple of
pre cookies. I know then my you know, my brother's riding. Yeah,
those are for you gotta have.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
That's why I didn't get invited to right a lot.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, but yeah, they liked it, and then they you know,
can't thank this enough for coming to do it. Want
to make sure we do it again next year. So
it was a lot of fun and a lot of
people and samuy l liked it because they kept on
yelling Bronco, Bronco. I don't know why. They must have
told me ahead of time when the name of the
horse was, because they kept on yelling the name Broncos.
It was a lot of.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Fun man Broncos getting big time.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
And as I said, I said, what put on my truck?
But you have all his money in his truck and
all you do is care about the horse.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
They don't care about the truck. They care about about
the horse. Hey, how did the Home Gardens show go yesterday?
Everything's going well, it's doing it's doing really good. It's
you know, typical Friday. A lot of people you know,
got to go to work and stuff. Yeah, you know,
feel good leads, you know, feel good stuff good. But
you know, it's just great to be back together with
all the people you know from our Step Beyond Green
friends and all those people that are all back together.

(01:35):
We're all get to talk to each other because you know,
when you get some free time towards the end of
the day, we all get the chance to talk. Well
when you If you guys, go down State Fair Park
today and tomorrow and then next week. They're off on
Monday and Tuesday. Today. Doors are open at ten o'clock
to seven pm. Tomorrow ten am to five pm and
then Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday of next week in

(01:58):
studio with us, and I want to talk about Step
Beyond Green and I want to talk about the Home
Garden Show. But man Jonathan brought his daughters in and
we're gonna be talking a little bit about Maya and
Nora for sure. Jonathan Sinovac, he's the owner of Step
Beyond Green to Healthy also Home Building Trades Foundation. And

(02:18):
if you go to the show, I can tell you this,
You're gonna go over and see everybody from Step Beyond
Green and you're gonna be able to listen to these
guys up on stage quite a bit. Jonathan, how you
doing fantastic?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
How you doing?

Speaker 1 (02:30):
I'm doing good. Yeah. Thanks for bringing your daughters with
you today. You've told me enough about them. And miss
Maya is a sophomore at River Falls and Norah's a
freshman at Walking School. Languages. You're getting old boy.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I know. And there I don't know if if I'm
liking it or hating it, but there's a balance out there, right.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
The nice thing is they're independent and they kind of
all those years that you worked at it and they're showing
off what they can really do now, so that's cool.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
And then our other part is we're and old. Yeah, well, yeah,
I've gotten old. I was all a long time ago.
Jonathan didn't surprise me. Before we get into Home Gardens
Show and Step Beyond Green to Healthy. When my walked in,
I said, hey, it's nice to meet you. You know,
where do you go to school? And she's a software
at River Falls? And I said why river Falls? She said,

(03:19):
I want to be a dog trainer. And it doesn't
surprise me, Jonathan. And here's why. On that high school
show I do during the current Electric Superhero the Week,
I asked the question, you have that servant leadership heart.
You want to give back to our Do you want
to help people? You want to help pets? You want
to she When I ask a kid that a lot
of times, it's Hey, my grandfather, my father, my mom,

(03:40):
my grandmother, my aunt, somebody in their family taught them
that servant leadership part. It does not surprise me one
bit that your oldest has decided to do something where
she can help people and help pets live a better life.
So she has that servant leadership heart. And I can
see the pride that you have. We've had conversations about

(04:01):
your daughters and you're you're about as proud of a
father as I know. And you got to feel pretty
good about the idea of my being able to help people.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Yeah, it's it's it's again you. You. You hope that
you're doing the right thing raising them and putting him
in the right situations and surrounding on with love. And
when they kind of turn that back at you and
show you that, yeah, that's what it's all about. It's
it's really it's a proud moment.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
So I got to tell this story. I have a
brother that lives in floor that's a family counselor. And
when my kids, when Katie was probably nine and Matthew
is four, I just thought, I am not too I'm
screwing this whole thing up. I'm just not doing this right.
And I called him and I said, look, I need
to talk to yeas want to talk sports, Hey, how

(04:45):
the packers can do? I said, no, no, I need to
talk to you about work. So put your hat on
and I said, look, here's here's what's going on. I
think I'm screwing these kids up. And he goes well,
this would be a quick conversation, and I said okay.
He said, you remember the feeling you got in your
gut when Dane's car pulled up in front of our house?
And I go, yeah, He goes, you remember that. I go,

(05:07):
I know exactly what you're talking about. He said, what happens?
You come home from work? And I go, what do
you mean? He goes, what happens? And I said, Katie
gives me a hug and Matthew throws a ball at me.
He goes, Yep, you're doing perfect anyway. How the packer's
going to go. I go, that's it. He goes, that's it.
I go, that's it. He goes. I go, you're not
going to build me for this, or even goes one

(05:28):
hundred percent. You're getting invoiced. And that made so much
sense to me, you know, it just did so congratulations
on that. Hey, you guys are up on stage a lot. Huh,
I see you? You're going getting up at five thirty?
Or is Aaron doing this? Aaron?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Aaron? And Aaron's going to be a new face of
Crave of Construction. He really loves doing his shows. He's like, well,
what shows am I doing? And I said, well, pick
what che wants you want. He goes all of them.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
He wants to steal them all. Good for him. He's
comfortable in that setting. He's really comfortable, and he's sitting
in your chair for you and Hey, so people can
come all day long and looking at the schedule of
what you guys have up on stage, let's talk about
there's certainly a common theme through all of it, correct.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Yeah, And I think even besides the stage, the stage
is kind of the heart of our area, but we've
we've got ten wooden Shelle's that are surrounding the actual
stage where members are are showcasing healthy, alternative things like
skylights and insulation and you know, angles their water. I
think a buzzword right now is lead, right lead and

(06:36):
peoples come talk to water doctors within the step beyond
green area about how to solve that lead problem. Is
it a problem? I think that's another thing education. I
think one of the things with home shows that that
people forget is that they think that people get together
try and sell you a product. Where can you talk
to somebody in person in a variety of different product
types in the same area as things like decking, there

(06:59):
might be a lot of different and deck products out there,
but when can you talk to someone about it. You
got to the website. What are they going to say, Mike,
They're going to say, we're the greatest product on the planet.
You choose us. Home shows are waiting for you to
go and educate yourself, which is why having Step Beyond
Green at the center of this show, we're basically with
a gigantic area, all these wooden shelleys, all these members

(07:19):
want to talk to you on how to debunk the
myths that you're hearing on the internet and you're reading
on your social media. That's the best way to debunk
those myths.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
And it's just it's talking like John you know from
the water Doctor group. Right, They're not trying to sell
you something. They're trying to sell you a better life,
wealthier system, right. I mean, we you know, our whole
thing is you know, is repair it, don't replace it.
You know what I mean, don't You don't have to
rip all thing. You can patch it. You can make
what's healthier. And there's like there's a firefighter group there
that just tells you what you can do to make

(07:48):
your house safer. They're not selling you a single thing.
They're just making aware of it.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yesterday, a guy that I know, Gary Nubauer, opened up
a place out in sus It's called Part Team, Party
Time Golf, Indoor Golf sports bar, and so I went
over and hit some balls yesterday and I met his
wife and the woman who's working there, and in fact
it's Gary's wife's sister in law. And they listened to

(08:14):
the show all the time. And she said, who do
you have on tomorrow? And I started talking about you,
and the woman that worked there went said, well a second,
now what do they do? And I started to explain,
and we went on your website and looked and she said, look,
I need to talk to them because here's what's going
on in my house. And I can't figure out. We've
done that, duck cleaning, we've done this, we've done this.

(08:36):
And I go, look, if you get out of the show,
you can sit in front of the stage. And I
started reading some of the things like today right at
eleven thirty is mold impacting the air quality of your home?
Right the invisible threat understanding right onto your home. So
she's like, okay, how do I get tickets? And so

(08:56):
I showed her the whole step to save two bucks
to get in. She's going to come down there either
today or tomorrow and come up to somebody in your
area and say, Okay, here's what I've done and this
is not worked. Can you recommend anything? But I would
make sure today you get there at five thirty because
I got plaster, learn how to repair it. There you go.

(09:17):
It's a probably a thirty minute kind of deal.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
That here he husually did it under three hours.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Under three hours, that's awesome.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
Well, we have the big hook on the side of
the stage, so Aaron sometimes you have to hook him
to get him off.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
It supposed last twenty minutes. But if you start asking
questions like oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Well, and that's the whole idea exactly. It's for people
to come be able to listen to the last question.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
The mold lady or something like this. We we literally
hired her to help with Sam really and it turns
out and just last last week or so, they actually
took all the hate out of the barn. They did
because it turned out that there was a leak in
the back of the barn. I got some mold. It
was just hidden, but the but they traced it all
the way down to that just from doing all the
testing that he did so the to get rid of it.

(10:00):
It started over and now she's fine.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
But now she's feeling good.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
But yeah, so my my youngest daughter came in to
help her gut the barn because you can't have Sam
go to do it because that's what's hurt. So yeah,
but anyways, that yeah, she was at the NBA show
Step Beyond Green group booth like this and listening presentation.
I say, Sam, were gonna come down and listen to
this because you know, if I'm there, I have to
listen to the presentations anyway, So I was actually listening,
so I said, Sam, you gotta check this out. And

(10:24):
she draws a lot of people to that because mold
is it's everywhere.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Oh man, Jonathan, how do you get new companies? And
have you guys grown throughout the years? And when you're
talking to somebody like Bingo if he's not part of
Step Beyond Green to Healthy and they say to you
listen to is this an organization that should be a
part of because here's what we do. What do you tell.

Speaker 3 (10:48):
Them we're a unique organization. Membership organization just like an
area or a metropolit building association or realty association. And
I think what I what I like telling companies that
are thinking about helping out the communities, think of if
you have a product that is healthy, or if you
have a product that can change someone's lives, you want

(11:09):
to be part of this organization because we actually bring
you in and we introduce you to other types of
like minded companies. And I think that's what people don't
really get about our organization is that it's a much
different networking group as in a community. So like Bingo
comes in and talks to the entire association about how
plaster is healthy and how it's natural, and then we've

(11:29):
got water dictions that comes in. And what people don't
are finding is that this is incredible knowledge based to
grow my own business. Because when you're out in someone's
house and maybe you get that, well, you know what,
I can't really help you. However, now I'm part of
a resource group that understands how to create healthier environments.
Let me contact you with somebody else. And I'm just
seeing everybody get like all these referrals and leads and

(11:50):
smiles of helping other people out and the joy that
comes from the client knowing that you've serviced them. We
talked to in the beginning of the show about that
is that you didn't just say I can't help you.
You said, you know what, I'm not part I can't
solve this problem. Let me put you in touch with
someone who can solve the problem that's already like in
the Healthy Network.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Jonathan, well done on that slide. The microphone over, so
we talked a little bit about Maya. She's a sophomore
at River Falls. She does not want to be on
this microphone at all. Just hold it. You can hold it, Maya. Hey,
how you doing. It's good to see you. It's really
good to meet you. Come a little closer to the microphone.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
I mean, I'm doing good this morning.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
You are well. This is a spring break and your
dad's got you up in early work, and how does
that work? That's not supposed to be happening.

Speaker 4 (12:36):
I mean I help them all the time with his shows,
and it's fun to meet all the people and increase
my knowledge on running audio and video forum.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
May you're the first person to walk in this studio
and instead of talking to me, you went right over
by Spencer and looked at the board and I was
about to tell Spencer to go home because I think
you could probably run it. I can't, first of all,
before we get to a break, to be able to
be a dog trainer, where did that? Where did that

(13:06):
come from? And why that field? Do you think?

Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, so we've always had rescue dogs and we have
always managed to get the ones with some behavioral issues
because because my dad's nodding next to me, and so
it's been an experience trying to get them to a
point where they are happy and healthy and able to
coexist with us in a way that doesn't cause any
extra stress. And I want to be that bridge for

(13:34):
the people who really need it, because it is very
hard to find trainers who are willing to work with
more aggressive not necessarily breeds, but behaviors with dogs, and
there I have seen so many dogs be put down
due to the behavioral issues, and I want to be
that bridge to help.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Prevent that well. And I think, look, you and I
could do a show, because I got a bunch of
questions for you, and we're going to get to a
break and get back to what this show is really about.
But I think you have to also train the owner
a little bit, right, Because when we used to live
on eightieth in Townshend, there's a guy kitty corner that
always had a couple of pit bulls, but he never

(14:12):
had a fence that could keep the pit bulls. Ye,
and they had two. One was just the nicest, would
run right into her house and jump up on the couch,
and the other one would would be out by the
sidewalk just looking at me. Two pitbulls, And I thought, you,
I like, Ginger was just his sweetest little thing, and

(14:33):
the other one, I don't know the name, but would
just stare at me, like, bring Ginger back to me.
And I thought this guy people were so upset because
he just wouldn't fix his fence. Just fix it. So
your dogs can't be running the neighborhoods all the time.
So I think the big part of your job is
going to be to train the owners as well.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Right, Yeah, I mean we are we have a puppy
who is being a little bit of a pain. But
it was interesting seeing my dad work with her yesyesterday
and how he had to be retrained on a lot
of the handling methods.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, yeah, how do when does he get time to
go work with a dog?

Speaker 3 (15:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
If he's left seven different companies.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
He's got seven companies, he's got two beautiful doggs. He's
making sure he raises correctly. And well, we laughed at
I laughed at Jonathan. I said, when you started Home
Building Trades Foundation, Like, when when did you do that?
We're going to get to a break. My see that
wasn't so bad. You did great. But yeah, wait, how's

(15:30):
Nore gonna do when we pull her up here?

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Oh that'll yeah?

Speaker 1 (15:34):
Well see well you said, man, she's a freshman in
high school. I can't believe it. Guys, we're going to
get to a break. The other side of the break,
we're going to continue to talk about the Home Garden Show.
If you're going or want to go, you can go
to m K e HGS dot com buy tickets before
you go. You can save two dollars a ticket. The

(15:54):
I can tell you that six twenty two and six
twenty three are the booth for Creative Construction Wisconsin. Four
twenty seven, six twenty eight the actual boots four step
beyond green to healthy. But they've got a huge area
and when you go and you watch some of these
people on stage mits Maya, what do you do well?

Speaker 2 (16:13):
Look by the av area, the person behind behind the street,
the person behind the curtain.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
You should be on, in front of the stage. You
should be on. No, you're doing great. Now, get the
microphone in your hand, Jonathan, go on home. Yeah, Bengal,
I'll see you later. Other side of the break, we're
talking to Ma about how you train a laborate duode
because I was not very good at it. Other side
of the break, will con continue to talk to Jonathan
Snovak Step Beyond Green, Too Healthy. This is the Creative

(16:39):
Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports side twenty
and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox Sports nine
twenty and your iHeartRadio app. Coming live from the Donovan
and Jorganson Heating and Cooling studios. If you're going to
the Home and Garden Show today, tomorrow, sometime next week,

(17:00):
Donovan Jorgenson Heat and Cooling Booth one twenty three. Bingo Emmons,
the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin, is my co host,
and we're talking dog training. How about that?

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Well, it's home improvement. It is hey, because if you
have a bad dog, you need home improvement. Yes you dot.
I've gotten phone calls with the holes in the walls
and they chew up drywall and everything.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
Oh I love other people's dogs. I do. In fact,
we have the little dog Snacks in the condo. We
got a bunch of dogs. A little Reggie lives next door.
I was given but you know what, then Reggie goes home.
It's like being your grandfather. They get give him a
red bull and send them send them home. Jonathan, you
should try that with your puppy.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
Yeah, you know. And if you don't have a puppy
and you're thinking about a puppy unique to the Home
of Garden Show, which they haven't actually done a great
deal of advertising on, there's actually puppies from rescues in
at the Home and Garden Show all ten days, all
day long. So if you want, if you're looking for
a dog and I rescue. And how do I know
this because Maya sent me a picture from working the
show yesterday holding a puppy and goes, how about a

(18:06):
third one? Dad? And I was like, how about not?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
How about that? You know what? Ask a grade you
have grandfathers anywhere, grandmothers because if you do ask them,
because they'll say yes, that's what my wife and I do.
We said no all the time to our kids, and
now it's like, oh sure, come on, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
My kids are like, you know, my kids are you know?
I think I think you you know, you know, I
think Shelby's your favorite now over your own kids.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Oh absolutely, absolutely yeah. I got six of them and
they're all they're all a favorite in a different way.
In fact, my oldest just he passed his temps yesterday
and I before he got his tempts, I was taken
to a Spring Creek church for a youth event and
there's nobody in the back, and so I said, hey,

(18:51):
let's see he's got lead foot. I go, you know what,
you drive just like your mom did when she was
your age. Hey, Jonathan, how do you sele Black? Who's
going to speak? And again I'm looking at at the
whole calendar of people speaking, And if you want to go,
it's over near the step beyond green to healthy and

(19:12):
it is the Miners Garden Center Solution Stage where you're
going to want to go, especially at five point thirty today,
And if you want to heckle somebody, you can heckle.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Aaron Lawyer, right, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
Yeah, heckle them and have the people doing, have the
girl doing all the You're getting cut his sound every
once in a while, and you know, do that kind
of Yeah. Mya is like, I'm not doing that. I'm
not doing that. How do you select who you want
to go up on your stage?

Speaker 3 (19:40):
What we try to do is look at everybody is
out there advertising I can I can replace, I can replace,
I can replace, but no one's talking about the process
of figuring out what needs to be replaced. Now, why
don't use the word replaced? Because when I think of
a healthy home, it's our bodies and our environment. So
when we look at speakers, what we're trying to do
is give you not only solutions, but also the ways

(20:03):
to test and new this year, I am we are
so excited. The Wellness Way actually has is our newest
member to Step Beyond Green. That's a holistic medicine group.
They do whole body testing, so beyond which your general
practitioner's gonna test, They're gonna test all kinds of different
things like for mold poisoning, and they're gonna test all
kinds of vitamin deficiencies and thyroid deficiencies. And the reason

(20:26):
they joined is because not only do we want you
to have a healthy home, but what happens if we
create a healthy home and you don't feel better it
actually the home could have poisoned you, and now we
need to analyze you as well. So now only do
we have now a member that's out advocating for testing
and solutions right next to them in our booth, we're
super excited is that we have MPI there. They've developed

(20:48):
an entire division of healthy home testing, so raid on, mold,
air quality, you name it. They've created a whole division
doing it. So you have now test your bye, test
your home, come up with what we're finding, and then
we have an entire gamut of contractors now that can
actually give you the solution. So now we have the

(21:08):
whole package. Whereas before people would just say, well, we'll
just change something and see if that helps. Now we
don't have to analyze it.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
Now we can figure how did you find Wellness Way?
Did they find you?

Speaker 3 (21:19):
No? So it was it's actually it was a three
year journey back and forth Wellness Way. I wanted a
national group. I didn't want and not to pick on
local holistic centers, but I wanted somebody with a bigger,
broader spectrum that was testing across coast to coast because
that situationally changes right coast to coast. And it's just
so happens that the founder actually founded Wellness Way in Wisconsin,

(21:42):
so he's a Wisconsin native, and there's the most offices
within the Wisconsin area because of that. So it just
worked out that it was a good synergy between Steppeon
Green and Wellness Way in Pelwaukee.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
They are right around the corner from me, thirteen hundred
Capital Tribe. They're like literally right around the corner. Hopefully,
my wife's not listening right now. I know she was
having breakfast because she's the like call into set an appointment.

Speaker 3 (22:07):
Well, I will tell you that a year ago we
finally brought my wife and she had been struggling for
eighteen years with different types of illnesses that were gone
undiagnosed and we couldn't figure out why. Well this Way
did their entire track line. Found out that she was
heavily mold poisoned and that her immune system was fighting
mold poisoning and It turns out it was her environment

(22:29):
in which she works in which I won't say because
that's not fair. But ultimately she's now gone through mold
detox and then she found out that she has actually
had a she can't do gluten, but not in a
celiac way, just that it inflames her body. So between
the mold inflammation and the gluten information, she is one
eightied her entire life in about twelve months.

Speaker 1 (22:48):
She in a better mood nowadays. Well you bet she
holding hands with her husband once in a while. Absolute right, Well,
in this way helped all that. There you go. I
am on their website right now, and yeah, he'd be
a really interesting guy to talk to for sure. Well,
good for you. I think that's awesome. And people, when again,
when you go to the show, to the Home Garden

(23:09):
Show at State Fair Park, and you can go to
mk EHGs dot com buy tickets ahead of time if
you know you're going, because you'll save two bucks a ticket.
When you get there, make sure you head over to
the step beyond Green to healthy area. How big is
the area? I've got to get there. I've not been
there in a bit.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
I want to say it's probably almost five thousand square feet.
It's a chunk of it's a whole chunk of the floor.
Like you can't miss it. It's got a gigantic except
beyond green sign you'll see wooden shell is. It's got
lighting and everything's flashing around and video screens and yep.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Are you paying Maya for this?

Speaker 3 (23:44):
All the time she's don't give her ideas, Mike, I
am mind her new agent.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And during the break I get fifteen percent everything I
can get her from miss Maya. And is Nora working
there today as well?

Speaker 3 (23:56):
No, she's she's actually word we talked about driving actually
getting here. She got her permit just just a couple
of weeks ago, and so we're so we're going to
go out driving this.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Nor come up to the microphone real quick, she's Maya
didn't want to, and Nora we had to literally pull
I come close to the mike. Our it's nice to
meet you. I am good good. You're a freshman at
Milwaukee School Languages. Are you a good student?

Speaker 4 (24:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (24:21):
I got a four point zero right.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Now, that's a really good student. Are you killing what
your older sister did? Right?

Speaker 5 (24:28):
No? I feel like Leah's had a four point oh,
Maya had a four point Oh, I'm probably just falling in.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Their following in their footsteps. What language do you take there?

Speaker 5 (24:35):
German?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Is there multiple?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Did they take out her mom?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
Then?

Speaker 1 (24:42):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (24:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Yeah. They're extremely cute and really good looking and very
smart other than the servant leadership part that they may
have gotten from their father. Do you have any interest
in in in home improvement and kind of step beyond green?

Speaker 5 (24:56):
Or is that?

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I mean, you're a freshman in high school. You can
change your mind at what you I want to do
in the future thirty times before you leave the studio.
But do you have any interest in some of the
things your dad's doing?

Speaker 5 (25:06):
I mean, I've definitely noticed, like especially with the water
that we have now, it tastes so much better than
all the restaurants stuff, like when we go to restaurants
or I go to my friend's house, Like I can
taste the difference.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
That's is that water? Doctors? Yeah, Jonathan's smiling because they're
part of a step beyond green to healthy? Are do
you play sports or anything over at school?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Yeah? I play volleyball?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
You do?

Speaker 1 (25:28):
You good volleyball player?

Speaker 5 (25:30):
I'm okay.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
How was the team this year?

Speaker 5 (25:32):
It was good. Our varsity was really good, but r
JV could use some improvement.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Did you play club as well? No? No, so just
school your stuff. Yeah that's awesome. Good for you. Your
bad boys basketball team is pretty good this year as well. Yeah,
so I do a two hour high school sports show
after this one, talking mostly basketball. At this point, I
know school language just had a really good Anyway, we're
gonna get to a break, I know. But Jonathan, bring

(25:57):
the microphone back to you. Unless you know anything about NASCAR,
I'm just moving. No.

Speaker 3 (26:02):
We always move on I.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Series race last week.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Or something, truck race last night last night.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's see I high school basketball state tournament,
NCAA tournament. I must have missed that. I must have missed.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
It's one channel, one more channel over, one.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
More channel over. That's awesome. Do you think any of
your kids will will get into the family business?

Speaker 3 (26:29):
You know, I don't think it's one of those things
that we see nowadays a lot of younger people taking
over business, and Bingo is an exception. I think the
most important thing is that they're they're taking through what
I've done and they take some piece of it and
do something with that. Whether that be whether get with
the architecture or the nonprofit land or just the giving spirit.

(26:49):
I think at the end of the day, that's more important.
Do I have my fingers crossed that maybe I think
that I got a couple more years to think about it,
but I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
Hoping what does your there's an older daughter as well.
I have a middle doge middle And where does she
go to school?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
She's a She's a Walket School of Languages. She's a
senior this year, and she's actually going to go into
to a Veda. So I have finally want to go
not going to college. And that sounds really weird to
say on the air, but I mean, I mean, ultimately,
I'm a big advocate with the with the trade side
of things that we don't all have to go to college.
So yeah, she's she's actually going to do that in

(27:23):
hair and cosmetology.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
Well, and and Norris said, look, I'm just following. I'm
trying to follow in my sister's footsteps because there are
four point oh kids, and and and that's what I
want to do is well, do you know it's interesting
because Zach Sam they didn't want to get in Bingo,
didn't want to get into creative construction. What happens is
sometimes when you go out and see the world and
you start figuring out what you want to do. That

(27:45):
company that you just heard about, and watch your dad
put all the sweat equity in your mom's sweat equity,
and they all of a sudden go, you know what,
that's a pretty good company. Hold lot a second, Maybe
I do want to come back, and who knows that
might happen. You never know, Hey, when and when you
set up and you're involved with a lot of these
shows because you believe that the mission statement with Step

(28:06):
Beyond Green to Healthy is to educate people. It's all
about education and getting people healthy. What's funny is the
woman that I talked to yesterday asked how it started,
and I right away went to the woman to buy
this book and here's how this whole. And I've asked
you to tell the story a million times and I'm
not going to. But it's a really good story where
this woman couldn't find anybody to help her and you

(28:28):
didn't know anything about this. And from that coffee meeting
Step Beyond Green to Healthy, imagine how many people in
that circle now because of that one coffee meeting have
been helped.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
It's absolutely amazing. We actually get now calls from all
across Wisconsin. I just took two last week. They're begging
us to leave the Milwaukee Mount Madison area. They're like,
can you expand? Can you expand? And it really comes
down to if you were sitting at home and just
not sure what's going on, I mean, where do you go?
I mean, I think that's where I started with this
young woman who was like frustrat with life because every

(29:01):
contractor she talked to is like, well, I just can
build you a normal home, and she's like, I don't.
That's not going to help me. I need someone to
help me. And I think it's the sad part of
when I think about the Trades Fon Foundation, I think
about steps step beyond on Green them running, is that
I hear that even contractors don't want to help people
any anymore. And it's just sad that we've we've lost this.
It's it's we go and we do.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
What is it? I do?

Speaker 3 (29:22):
I I replace X, Y and Z and I just
do it. But you don't listen anymore. We've the contracting
realm is stopped listening and so I think what Step
Beyond Green really invigorates contractors in our membership with is
that reminder that there's really good people that need help.
And sometimes I know it seems like it's a little
bit more effort, but you have an entire community around
you within Step Beyond Green that can support that. And

(29:43):
so let's all get together and remind ourselves why we
started our businesses, and that was to help people and
solve problems.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
If I the first time I met you on the
corner of eighty eighth in Townsend when I was starting
this Home Improven show and I asked you to be
a guest, and you thought I was a crazy person,
that's all yeah, because I like.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Well, actually it hasn't changed.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, let's get to a break. I'm gonna just have
Nora and Maya because they're a lot nicer to me
be my special guests. But because I chased your van
down the street because I was looking for people to
be guests, and you were like like, I don't know
what you're talking about, and I have no interest. But
if I told you at that point, hey, listen to
twenty twenty five. Here's what's going to be going on

(30:22):
in your life, you would have thought I was even
crazier than you did, right, because you the source one.
I mean, your company is doing great, but all of
these other companies have kind of come I think from
that coffee meeting. And I don't know if the Trades
Foundation came from that, but part of it did. It
just did. And I think back and I don't know

(30:43):
how it had to be twenty years.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Ago, seven or sixteen years now, sixteen.

Speaker 1 (30:47):
Years If I told you then in twenty twenty five,
what would be going on in your life, you would
have said absolutely.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
Not no, because I think I think that's the beautiful
thing is when you open yourself up to helping people,
you never know that journey in which you're going to
go on, right, And I think that's the fascinating thing,
and the amount of people that you meet and the
stories that you have, and that's what really invigorates I
think contractors to keep moving forward, is that you feel
at the end of the day, you saw something and
you made someone's lives better. And so I think that's

(31:15):
that's really what drives everything that we do.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Hey, Bingo, you've been part of what Jonathan with with
step Beyond Green to Healthy you can go to step
Beyond Green to Heealthy dot org is where you would
want to go to find out the mission statement and
more about what this organization does. Why did you join
and why have you continued to be a member with
Jonathan Oh?

Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Actually was there?

Speaker 5 (31:37):
No?

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I think right when COVID hit, you know, we gotta
do something because what we're doing right now. I mean,
it was just it's just something, right, everybody's worried about something.
And then Randy Miller was like, hey, what do you think?
And then it just slow ball from there.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
When when you have guys like Randy Miller and and
Bingo Emmons and Jesse from Milestone and the guys from
Water Doctors who have been in here and I think
they're coming in in a couple of weeks. When you
have a core of guys like that, and Randy talking
to Bingo about, man, we should what do you think
of this? We should get involved in that? That? That's
those are the kind of guys that you want out

(32:11):
on the street talking about what you do.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
Yeah, and I really want to. I think we need
to take a moment. And I'm sure Bingo doesn't always
hear a lot of this but Creative Construction and Bingo
himself have been a gigantic advocate for step Young Green.
But when you when I say advocate, I mean any
time that we needed a space for a conference, anytime
they needed help setting up or moving something, anytime that
we needed something done. His company the givingness from this side,

(32:37):
and it's Sam, it's Zach's, it's been go. I don't
think I could talk enough about the fact that when
you hire a contractor, you want to hire someone who
is ethical and and and great, but you also want
to have someone who cares. And if if, I think
companies are shown by what they give, and Creative Construction
has over the years given more than any other Step

(32:58):
Young remember in fact, they got an award for it
from step Beyond on Green last is the December and
just an outstanding leadership and an achievement run because they
just give and they give, and I think that the
community needs to know that it's and so if you need,
if you need any type of work done by them,
know that every single person there cares. Their team comes
and helps us build. They care. They don't sit around,

(33:21):
they don't wait for the next thing. They're like, what
can we do? Next, what can we do next? And
that's who you want working at your.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
Home well, and that comes from the top, right, That's
what Al was right. Bengo's dad was all about that.
And then Bingo and Deb. Deb a lot of times
is like if she would be here, she'd be out
there because she would not do what your daughters did
and make me. You know, I forced them to come
to the microphone and they did great. But Deb has

(33:47):
that same right, and that's where that comes from. Zach
when he he's come to my house, I don't know
how many times, but he walks in, how you doing
good to see hi, Terry, and I see you and foam,
he's going to work and he's getting's done and he's
doing it like correctly. And when he did our ceiling,
I said, no, no, it's good. He goes, now I
come back tomorrow. I got one more thing to do

(34:09):
and I go, no, it looks perfect, and he goes,
can you just let me do my job? Just let
me do what I have to do to make sure
it's done correctly so you don't have to call us
or somebody else. And I go, okay, you got it.
But that's when you talk about that part, Look, what
can we do? How can we help you? That's exactly
what they're all about. And I love the fact that

(34:29):
you know Randy and Bengo and Dev and the people
that are involved with you continue to stay with you
for sure as a member of Step Beyond Green. Do
you guys have meetings? Give me a process. If there's
a company out there right now that has interest in
being involved, And look, I don't understand sometimes why people

(34:49):
don't join nary right, I don't understand why companies would
not want to be involved with a group of people
that you have and the things they do. If there's
a company out there that has interest in joining, can
you talk about what that takes and what the cost is?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
Sure? Yeah, So ultimately it's it's about eight hundred dollars
to join. Now that's not annually, it's only four hundred
dollars annually. And the reason it jumps for the four
dollars is training. I think one of the scary parts
when we talk about healthy and what companies are concerned
about is I don't know what to do with healthy.
I hear the words I think I should be doing it.
So that four hour training course that you do right

(35:25):
when you join, talks about how to actually do the marketing,
how to look for things within your company without changing anything.
A lot of times you don't need to change anything.
You just have to re message yourself and be confident
in that messaging. That's what Step Beyond Green does for you.
It gives you the confidence to actually go out and broadcast.
These are healthier options.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Can I go back to the cost? Yeah, eight hundred bucks, Yeah,
and then four hundred Manda River Falls, their tuition is
going up. I'm just telling you that tuition is.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Going i' bline an area in the NBA and these organizations. Yeah,
I wish it was only four hundred dollars.

Speaker 4 (35:56):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
And the reason for that cost is we're not trying
to make that the stop point. Really, that shouldn't be
your holdback for not joining. Ultimately, ultimately we want to
get part of the community. You see the value. Then
we actually because we buy these spaces, the Home and
Garden Show, we actually own Step Beyond Green owns that
area NBA show. We own the area, so our members
get exclusive rights to additional advertising everything that goes on there.

(36:20):
So those are two perks. And then you get access
to those shows. We have a member conference that we
do that we bring in our teams and we educate
how how do we we to marketing firm talk about
all the statistics for people searching for healthy in the
Milwaukee area. It was fascinating listening to the demand that's
not being met in our area. So we do these
member conferences once a year. We have a holiday party,

(36:41):
we have networking events. So yeah, no, we have all
kinds of opportunity and we keep growing and the members
keep asking for more and as long as we can
fund it, we're going to keep giving more.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
And what one of our first things I learned. I
took the trading course, one of our first things that
mean Sam took it. Of course, I learned that not everybody.
Everybody is different. Everybody's different, you know. And then I
learn it because now I want to go to customers.
Once says you better put a mask on. I said, well,
I can't smell it. It doesn't bother me. But to them,
they can't be in that room. Wow, they just they
can't be. You know, I've been you know. And after

(37:10):
a while I learned this there and he said, I thought, well,
I'm just some psychological you know, it turns out they
really have problems. There's a house in ra scene, right
they had some one of these spray foam deals done
that was mixed wrong or something right. And if people
couldn't they wouldn't even go in the front yard, right,
They couldn't take it. They just couldn't take them. You know.
I walked around the house and and some stuff won't
bother you, and some botherself. There's a house where that

(37:33):
was up actually up in Colgate where I had I
get the guy that does environmental services, right, I said him,
come in and check it out. He says, I can't
find the problem. And there's something that's only three percent
or like three out of a million or somewhere in
affected by something. And it's what you do do You
learn that everybody is different, every different immunities, right, right,
you know, like you know, Examantha, we're good in the

(37:53):
whole thing with the molsa, right, and it doesn't bother
us her.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
Yeah, and we're gonna get to a break voice. Interesting
is everybody's trying to trying to, you know, lose a
little weight, get in the weight room, you know, work
out and get your body as healthy as possible. But
then you're coming home. If there's an issue in the home,
you know, let's take care of that and figure out
what it is. We're gonna get to a break. Other
side of the break will continue our conversation. Jonathan Snovic

(38:18):
along with his daughters Maya and Nora in studio and
my co host Bingo Emmons is the owner of Creative
Construction of Wisconsin. And we're talking a lot about the
Home Garden Show because it's going on today, tomorrow and
all next week. Go to m a k e h
hgs dot com m k e hgs dot com to

(38:39):
find out everything that you can get involved with today,
tomorrow and next week at State Fair Park. I know
they're not open Monday and Tuesday, but then the rest
of the week. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Homiprovement
Show on Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio App.
Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Homiprovemage Show on

(39:00):
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio app. Coming live
from the Donovan and Jorgansen Hitting and Cooling Studios. You know,
there are things that you learned during the break that
you can't believe. And before we get back to Jonathan
and talk about step beyond Green and Bingo with Creative
Construction Wisconsin. Maya is a sophomore at River Falls and

(39:21):
she's going to be a dog trainer. And I said, boy,
do you watch that show with Caesar And she's like
and she shook her head and said, no, he's not.
Like I'm blown away. He's not licensed to be a
dog trainer.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
No, So if you actually do any background information and
what I've been taught by actual dog trainers, he has
no official licensing whatsoever, and he the way he trains
the dogs actually leads to more problems.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
So quit watching that show. Then I tried to do
some of the things with that Labradudo that he was there.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
No wonder the Labradu kept chelt the dog training show
on nine. You have to get on if she you
know what, and we can do it like with from
River Falls.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
If she wants what's the hardest dog that kind of
dog to train?

Speaker 4 (40:12):
No dog is hard to train. It comes down to
how you train them. So if you talk about like
the quote unquote breed specific aggression, that is not a thing.
It comes down from how they were raised and socialized
as a puppy, So.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
I have to can I can I argue with you
on that? Yeah, Like, I've never seen an Irish said
ter you know, tack people, I've never I've never heard
of that, never heard of a labradoodle. But you sure
hear a lot about pit bulls doing it. Now.

Speaker 4 (40:44):
The problem that comes with pit bulls is the association
that they are the fighting dogs. That is what some
people associate them being bred to do, which they are
actually one of the biggest sweetheart dogs and if you
look on a bite scale, they're actually number three for
most popular bite. Number one comes from Chihuahua's.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Yeah, I'm yeah, you just came across the room.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
I'm telling you.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
Yet that I thought you said it Bingo Emmons creative
construction of Wisconsin. I'm telling you that I would never
have Chualla. I'm just not a big fan. I'm just
not and or a cat. Can't do cats. My wife's
totally allergic to cats. And if yeah, I'd have to

(41:31):
have Johnathan come over and step beyond green to health.
You would have to be at my house twenty four
to seven.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Oh, he couldn't be there. He's allergic to cats.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Too, so yeah, and he knows why he's allergic.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
They get him for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Yeah, there you go, sign me twin cats or something
like that. Man, that that I'm telling you. During the break,
I learned more stuff and that and this whole this
bubble has been burst with Caesar Room what. I didn't
even know his name, but I was Milan. Yeah, Milan,
thank you.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
I gotta go home and start over.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Yeah, I've I've got to start.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Okay, forget everything you've been talking.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
To, get everything. No wonder that labradoodo was just so
food motivated and hey, I'm bingo. When when you when
you get motivated by the way, Yeah, I am too. Yeah,
then maybe the dog took after me. Are you gonna
be down at the hom Garden show all day to day?

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Yes, and Deb will be there this afternoon for a
little bit. We have a dog that's over fifteen years old,
so therefore we can't can't leave, can't leave her long long,
long look.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
At Miss Miles is like, you should bring the dog.
I'll be able to do my work. Make sure the
sound that makes sure everything's great, and watch the dog. Jonathan.
If somebody's up on stage, today and people are complaining
it doesn't sound right because they can't hear. Who do
you have to yell at?

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Only mine? And you're okay with that?

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Well it's not me.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Just point to her dog trainer. She's going to be
a dog trainer. She doesn't know how to do all
this stuff. I love that, Maya. How did you get
involved with with with this? And how do you know
how to work all these boards and all that just
by doing it? Well?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
I can give most of credit the credit to my father.

Speaker 1 (43:08):
Okay, you taught this toy?

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Yeah, he DJ through college, so I was raised around
a lot of the equipment and then I continued on
with it.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well disco music or what DJ?

Speaker 5 (43:18):
What?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Do one of those guys like this?

Speaker 1 (43:20):
You playing that fusic?

Speaker 5 (43:22):
Why?

Speaker 1 (43:22):
But that kind of stuff? That's awesome? Jonathan? Is that
Do you have any interest in continuing and doing this
kind of stuff part time? Because you could? I could
hire your spencer, we could let go and and he
can only can you was late for work, so I
got to mess with him a little bit. Is that
something that that you're good at and you want to
continue doing part time?

Speaker 4 (43:42):
Or I'm pretty sure it'll stay some part time work.
It's it's fun and I'm learning new things every day
and I do it a lot, whether it's on campus
or I work during the State Fair.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
So yeah, I asked your sister this question. Do you
think in the future one day you'll maybe this the
company you're going to start to train dogs? They would
be perfect for Step Beyond Green, wouldn't they.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
I mean, I do talk about Step Beyond Green to
Healthy all the time while I'm up at school, So
that's possible.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
You're going to have a you know what, Jonathan moved
the microphone back. You're going to have a a second
office in River Falls, Wisconsin, I hope. So, yeah, that
would be awesome. Bingo. When when you guys work the
Milwaukee the show that's going out right now, right the
Milwaukee the Home and Garden Show, My goodness at State
for a park? Are you? Are you meeting people now

(44:31):
that are talking about getting things done this spring fall summer.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
What is the most biggest reaction I get is they'll
going by my booth And so I didn't know what
I didn't know anyway around? Even does plaster anymore? Yeah,
because that's what you're saying, you know, because a lot
of wise. What happens is is remodels are just rip
out your kitchen and replace it all. And we just say,
you know, you can repair it, you can patch it.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
Yeah, and that's awesome. People. A lot of stucco people
come to you.

Speaker 2 (44:57):
Uh yeah, even stucco people, especially a lot of stuff
with a bird holes and a woodbreger holes on that right,
that's synthetic, fake stuck ole stuff.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yeah, because we actually have a display with that. He goes,
Oh my gosh, you can fix that. Give me your card.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
I just want to chime in here a little bit
because I think when if you in Milwaukee, we have
a lot of plaster homes. If you, I'm telling you
please do not rip out in your remodel, especially if
it's a small area, do not rip the plaster out.
Call create construction. And the reason for it is plaster
is one natural and it's can't grow mold. I'm gonna
stay it again. It cannot physically grow mold. Where's drywall can.

(45:31):
So if you're replacing an entire kitchen in the only
area in your home you're putting drywle in is the
kitchen that has moisture and water of all the places
you shouldn't be putting drywall, it's bathrooms and kitchens, so repair,
do not replace.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
You know what that's called the mic drop. That's a
mic drop, Jonathan Snovak. I'm telling you a step beyond
green to health you. When you go to the Home
and Gardens Show, either today or tomorrow or next week,
stop buy and see him. And if you're listening to
somebody up on stage and you can hear from the back,
go see Maya. She'll take good car of you. Maya
and Nora. You guys did great. Thank you so much

(46:06):
for coming to studio. Jonathan. It's so good to see
you again. Bingo, have a good week.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
Yeah you too. Yeah, come here show.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
We have great guests on this show. Yeah you come
to the show next week. I believe I am.

Speaker 2 (46:17):
Oh you gotta watch a NASCAR race tonight.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
Yeah, I'm going to watch it live and tamp it
and then slow it down and break down and watching movie.
As everybody just keeps turning left, we're gonna get to
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