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August 2, 2025 • 48 mins
Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, August 2nd, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home IMPROVEMA show on
Fox Sports ninet twenty and your iHeartRadio app as always,
coming live from the Donavan and Jorgans and Heating and
Cooling studios. They must have been in Yeah, they fixed
this week. They fixed, well, not compared. Our producer wants
to go play with get a little colder in here.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Don't don't touch about.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, you don't have to have the park on this week?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Right, that's good?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
How you been?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
I do great?

Speaker 1 (00:24):
These big o Emmons. He's my co host, the owner
of Creative Construction Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Did you catch a raised last week?

Speaker 4 (00:31):
No?

Speaker 1 (00:31):
But I got a bunch of pictures sent to me
of people I had no idea other than you and Aaron.
I had no idea who they were.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I was at the Racist Well Thursday night, you know,
the dirt track. They had a Friday, Saturday and Sunday deal.
It was a lot of fun, you know. Plus you know,
I got all these access passes to everything.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
So I am going to watch Bristol I think today.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, okay, there's a baseball being played there right away,
because everybody in ASCAR is talking about it's gonna be
the biggest baseball season game ever ever.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Tell me what do you do when he says, he
goes hey instead of I hate that the right fields.
I hate it to turn one.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
I don't know, but I know that they don't have
to just turn left all the time on the base.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Well, they're going to find ways of They're going to
introduce a baseball players, you know, because they do a
NASCAR whenever they introduce I guess they're doing a lot
of the same stuff as NASCAR, like when something. They're going
to try to tie the two together. This is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
It'll be interesting. Well, welcome back. I'm glad you guys
had fun. Aaron had a good time. Oh yeah, good, good,
good good. Our special guests today studio.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
I want to bring this about Aaron, right, Aaron says,
I can't wait to go back to work, get some rest.
Oh yeah, yeah, those four days of racing.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Yeah, if you invite me next year, I'm pretty sure.
I'm busy.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
When we rented sleeper.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I know I gotta figure that out. I have too
much sports.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
In my hand on GPS.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
You just turn left, you're fine.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
In fact, one of our guests, I think we're going
to just move on from Home improvement and talk basketball.
I can tell you that Joe sat Pierre.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Did you guys know that Michael Jordan that was it? Yeah,
you know he plays in basketball. I guess in the past, if.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
He could have gone to his left, he could have
been one of the good he owns one. Oh really yeah,
interesting we can talk about You're not excited about that,
I'm not, But I'm excited that Joe s Piers here
his son six ten s Where did he get six
ten from pal?

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Certainly not me?

Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah, he got stretched out Joe and then Mike seas right. Oh,
I'm not saying that Lifetime right On Solutions is the
name of the company they're with. But Joe save Pierre.
We're talking a little basketball, and all of a sudden, man,
he jumped right in. His son played at UW Beyond,
played a bunch of basketball, coached a little bit.

Speaker 5 (02:44):
And you miss watching him play. Oh my gosh, I
miss watching him play. He started playing when he was
in third grade. Yep, and uh he played, uh, played
all the way through in college, five years in college,
and now now he's in the work world like we
all are.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hey did that what AAU team? Did he play for
down Illinois.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
He played for Playground Warriors up here, and then he
played for Illinois Wolves and played for Richie Davis. Richie, Yeah,
Richie Davis, and rest his soul.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
I told you a few Richie Davis stories. Man. We
got along really well at the end, and I kept
telling him all these other jokers getting involved in AA
you make you look good, and he goes, absolutely they do. Hey,
how long have you been with Lifetime Marine on Solutions?

Speaker 5 (03:26):
Not all that terribly long, a couple of years. But
I've been in the aero seal world for doing what
I do for about twenty three years, so I've been
in this industry for quite a long time.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, we're going to talk about erowseeal quite a bit today.
Mike Silvester, Hei, you bet. It's really really good to
see you again.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Thank you. It's good to be back.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah. Bingo must have told you to wear a hoodie
because it's normally really cold in here, and now got
you were shirt on and you're sitting next to probably
a Cubs fan, So I think everything's okay with that, right.

Speaker 6 (03:55):
I brought my hoodie because I'm used to being cold
in here, and I know now today.

Speaker 4 (03:59):
We're growing bananas in here.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
And not so bad. Don't say that because the guy
your right's going to try to mess around and try
to get it colder in here. Hey, Mike, hold a
hold on to the micro real quick. We're going to
talk a lot about Aerocal and wood and the things
that you guys do with that product. Tell me about
business right now at Lifetime rate on Solutions. How are
things going.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
Oh, business is good, very busy right now. Actually, we
had a very exciting move at the beginning of this year.
We moved from Delafield where we had been for over
twenty five years, and now we're located in Brookfield right
on one hundred and twenty fourth in Capital. So we
acquired or partnered with three other companies this winter Closet Concepts,

(04:47):
Window Works, and America at Home, and joining forces with
them has just made us a stronger company and a
lot of great employees over there that have just you
know that rising time that raises all ships. So a
lot of exciting stuff going on. We're at State Fair
right now, so we have that going on. Just just

(05:08):
trying to get the word out on on Radon and
building healthier communities. Plus you know, showcasing all the other
great services that we offer.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Hey, when somebody comes up to he at State Fair
and says, hey, never really thought about it? Right, Yeah,
that that microphone moves and you can thank my co
host for that. He fixed it because it was squeaking
really loud and now it's just kind of it. You're
gonna have to hold it. It's no worries. I appreciate
your fixing it. And you've fixed it too. Well. Yeah,

(05:39):
it's kind of like creative construction Wisconsin's way.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Right, I got to overdo it.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Hey, if somebody comes up to you at State Fair
and says, look, I've never never really thought about it.
Or my wife and I and we have two kids,
just bought a house and you know, I'll grow over
Brookfield or wherever, and we have not thought about having
this home tested for raid at. Why should we test it?
Tell me about a little bit about what Lifetime does,

(06:07):
what's kind of your elevator pitch on? Why people why
it's important for them to contact you guys.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
Yeah, well, everybody should do a raid on test, especially
somebody that maybe just bought a home, or if you
haven't tested in the last two years.

Speaker 4 (06:21):
So for those that don't know.

Speaker 6 (06:23):
Radon is a naturally occurring radioactive gas that comes from
the soil and then it can accumulate in homes and
buildings to unsafe levels, and it's the number one cause
of lung cancer and non smokers. Here in Wisconsin, raidon
kills twice as many people yearly as drunk driving. So

(06:43):
it's a serious health issue that you know, a lot
of people don't know about. We want to get the
word out there. We offer completely free digital testing, the
same type of test that we would use in the
middle of a real estate transaction. We offer that to
clients or homeowners. That's you know, probably one hundred to
two hundred dollars value. We come out, we test the home.

(07:04):
There's no obligation to do anything with us or with
anybody else.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
We present those results.

Speaker 6 (07:10):
And typically if the results are high, they're going to
look for options for mitigation, and based on our history
and track record and all that, more often than not
they decide to go ahead and miss it.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
They also got something that's really cool too. It's up.
If you have a like you have that rate on
it's kind of high, you can get an app where
you can kind of keep your eye on it. You
kind of watch it. And I watched them with with
customers and stuff. They're like looking at you know, they're
looking at it and they're watching it because I wait
for it to go down because they got to didn't
do stuffing. These seal up so much stuff they got
to seal up. Well, get that face.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Your business has has changed over the years, right, I
mean to be able to have an app to do
that is look everything now you can start with your app.
And I'm like, I'm a grandfather six. I want to
hit the button and turn it on and and I
understand that this stuff is important. Hey, when when we
do run promos, you guys were coming in. I'll get

(08:02):
some text messages and I just want to get this
one done. Buddy of mind. Greg sent me a text said, look,
we don't have a basement where we are and so
we're not we're not We don't think that we have
to worry about rain On? Is that true? And I said,
I will ask them in the first segment. So Greg,
here's your question. If they don't have a basement, Mike Sylvester,

(08:23):
do they still need to be in contact with you guys?

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, it's still a good idea to test a home
that's slab on grade. That's a common misconception that I
hear often. I hear it a lot at State Fair.
I hear a lot of funny things that State Fair
from people, as you guys can imagine. But yeah, absolutely,
if you have a home that's slab on grade, Raydon
can absolutely be coming up into the home and accumulating.

(08:46):
It's just instead of coming up through the basement and
starting there, it's coming into the first floor and that's
where you spend most of your time.

Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, if you build anywhere on a planet Earth, there's
this slight chance he might have it.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Really absolutely, So, how does Raydon typically get into building.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Through cracks and gaps in the foundation? You know a
lot of people have like a sump base, and that's
essentially a pit in the ground that can allow raid
on to come through. But yeah, any kind of cracks
or gaps, it's even concrete, its porous, you know.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
It's it's so prevalent now that all new houses are
built with the Radon system in place, so if they
need to, they can install it.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
I wish all new homes were built.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
All the ones go to the pipes are always in there.
And as I was ready to.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
Go, the best builders, the great builders out there, they're
doing it.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
See, I only work for the good builders there.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
There you go, Hey, Joe, you you've been in this
this long time, been working over at lifetime right on
solutions for a couple of years. AUO seal is is
a product that that that you guys, are you utilizing
and you're very familiar with?

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Correct, Yeah, it's a technology.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
So we're focusing on duckwork, all right. So so duckwork,
by nature leaks, so when it was a sound x
amount of years ago, new construction or old every time
a piece of duckwork gets put together, there's going to
be a leak. So the problem is is typically a
duck system leaks twenty five to forty percent, according to
the Department of Energy. So what happens We walk into

(10:16):
a home, We go down in the basement. It's typically cold, right,
especially how hot it's been lately.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Right.

Speaker 5 (10:22):
We walk upstairs and it's a lot warmer as we
go up, up and up. So we walk into our house.
We don't want to be hied upstairs when we come home, right,
So how do we fix that problem. Well, a we
could rip all the walls apart in your home and
manually put some sort of material or mastic we call it,
and paint all those you know, those leaks. We don't

(10:42):
want to do that. We have a technology again called
aero seal. Well, we could seal those gaps from the
inside out. And that's what the serial seal technology is.
It's non invasive, it's it's typically like a day project,
not even. And now we can force the air to
get upstairs is where it's meant to go.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And that's by not cleaning the ducks, but utilizing aero
seal in the ducks.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Yes, I can, and I can explain the process. It's
actually pretty simple.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
Yeah, I would love that nice.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
Absolutely, So we go up, we go to every event
in your home, all the floor events and the wall events,
and we put a temporary plug in every event in
the home, go down by the furnace in the basement,
and then we temporarily plug that off as well, cut
a hole in the duck work, hook a machine up
to it, and we pump air into the duck system.
So question I'm gonna quiz you guys, if you pump
air into the duck work and the air can't come

(11:33):
out of the vents. Where's the air going to leak out.

Speaker 1 (11:35):
Of the hole? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (11:37):
All the holes? Right, so then we mix the ceiling.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
Hey, I raised my hand because I was going to
answer that question, and you know, Bigo didn't raise his hand.
I know that for the first time on this show.
I was going to answer something before he didn't. Didn't
call on the next question. No, I'm not going to
know the next one. All those Catholic schools didn't teach
me stuff about this.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
So I'm going to take that air that'sing out of
the holes, which is kind of doing all the work
for us, Right, I'm going to mix this ceiling with
that air, which is a vinyl vinyl polymer. Basically it's
at of I's mixed with the air and it's coming
out the holes. As it leaks out, it's going to basically.

Speaker 3 (12:14):
Clat or cool like that tire flat stuff.

Speaker 5 (12:16):
Kind of kind of the same idea, right, fix the
flat whatever you want to call it, a different similar idea. Right,
as it leaks out of those holes, it's going to
self fined and leak and clot or whatever word you
want to use.

Speaker 1 (12:27):
Yeah, and seal.

Speaker 5 (12:28):
Those holes off. Okay, in ductworkers between walls, we can't
see it. We can't physically see it, right, Well, a lot.

Speaker 3 (12:34):
Of times, especially in new ones, it's just the studs.
You know, they put like a piece of sheet metal
across it, or like in a basement. You're in a
base well, you know because you see it all the time,
but you get like just a piece of sheet metal
or just runs the rafters.

Speaker 5 (12:45):
Right. And what's nice about this technology is it can
be metal, it can be wall studs, it can be
what you just said. It'll still work as long as
it's within five ace of an inch gap. But five
ase that's a pretty good sized opening.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Yeah, it is, right.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
The last piece of it is how do we quantify it?
How do we know what we're doing and where you
you know, how do you check a car tire. You
put a gauge on there and you check the pressure
in the car tire. Right, it's kind of the same idea,
but a little bit more technology. We're using tubes and
pressure gauges with our equipment, and it's all hooked up
to our machine and we're able to know exactly in
the beginning what it's leaking. We know at the end,

(13:20):
and then we generate a report for the homeowner so
they know exactly everything that's happening.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Hey, Mike, if somebody, are you guys the only company
in the state that can that works at the aeroscale
or is that are you guys exclusive or is that
something that's available to people.

Speaker 4 (13:35):
No, we're not the only ones. There's a couple of others.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
But yeah, you're a big fan of this product.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (13:42):
For me, it was at first kind of like raid on,
you know, something that you can't necessarily see. But then
once you see it in action, like once you see
the product being installed and the service being done, and
the things that I've heard from homeowners afterwards, that's what
really that's what really.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
Changed my opinion on it.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
I've had customers tell me, you know, hey, Mike, when
I go upstairs, it feels like I get punched in
the face with a wall of heat. Wow, that's that's
really descriptive. This guy actually had you know, Central ac
and he had a window unit up in the bedroom
because him and his wife are so uncomfortable at night
they needed that extra air.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
To to sleep.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
The next day he called us and said, Mike, the
window units on the on the.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
Curb if you want it. We're really happy.

Speaker 6 (14:31):
You know, we have like a degree of temperature differential
from the first floor to the second floor. Now we're comfortable,
we can sleep at night.

Speaker 4 (14:38):
It's awesome.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
So so like those type of stories really really got
me hooked. Another one that we've done recently was aero
steel can also help with indoor air quality, and and
Joe can really explain that well. But essentially she she
had mold in her ducks and we were able to
clean her ducks and seal her ducks, and we put

(15:00):
a little UV filter on her furnace to help prevent
future mold growth, and we sanitize her ducks as well.
And she two weeks later reported that, you know, her health,
her body, like she's just feeling better. And hearing those
type of things, whether it's like comfort or indoor air
quality or people just like saving money, those are that's

(15:22):
what I enjoy hearing well.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
And it's interesting, you know, if I can go over
to you, you know, with with this product that we're
talking about with Aerocal, when you're on their website, they
talk about comfort in every room. We've had that conversation
cleaner indoor air and again that's why she was feeling better.
And then lower energy bills and a quieter, longer lasting

(15:44):
HVAC system like the all four of those. I love
the idea of having comfort in every room. It's certainly
cleaner indoor air quality, but then to lower your energy
bill is great, and then to have your HVAC system
last longer and be quiet. What's the downside to this?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Honestly, there really isn't. I mean, I can't after I said,
two decades of me doing this, I can't think of
a down said, yes, you have to purchase the technology,
or that's if there's a downside, that's it, right. I mean, typically,
if you want to talk return on investment, three maybe
four years, I'm in a typical home. If you're going

(16:23):
to move next month and maybe don't do it right,
but if you're going to be here for a couple
of years in your home, absolutely, hands down, it pays
for itself from an energy standpoint.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, my wife and I had two years ago bought
a condo in Pewaukee, but before that, for thirty years,
we're on eighty eighth in Townshend and the upstairs were
first my daughter, Katie. That was her room. Then she
went off to college and Matthew, my son, moved up
there and we had central air, but it didn't go upstairs,
so we had and I didn't know. Like a month ago,

(16:54):
I was talking about it, and my son was like,
do you have any idea that central air didn't? It
was so hot up in that room, like I would
sweat at night, And I go, well, did you turn this?
He goes, yeah, it was right out in the window.
But it was so hot up in that room all
the time in the summer. I didn't go up there
a whole lot, obviously, and I didn't know. And I
wish back then that that I knew about you guys,

(17:16):
because we would have had you come out it did.
The air just never made it up to the upstairs.

Speaker 5 (17:21):
Such a common problem. I was on a walk last
night and a two story house and beautiful maybe twenty
five hundred square foot house whatever, and there was a
window unit and two of their you could see window
units in their upstairs rooms. There shouldn't be a window
unit and a two story home.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
How hard got How hard was it for you not
to knock on the door and introduce yourself I wanted.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
To stop by and be like, Hi, I'm your solicitor. Yeah,
let's just right, And you.

Speaker 1 (17:48):
Know what, I would have done that and just said, hey, listen,
I see this all the time. If you want to
come out look at it when you guys come, when
you guys go out at lifetime right on solutions. Can
somebody call you and have you come out and do
an estimate or at least have a conversation with somebody?
Is your a trip charge to have you guys come out?

Speaker 6 (18:07):
No conversations and estimates are free, no cost.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
So if they'll even check your raid on while he's
there for free.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
If we're coming off to talk aero seal and you know,
whether it's comfort or into air quality or just energy
efficiency that you care about, if you're interested in getting
a rad on test done, absolutely we can set a
monitor and come pick it up in a couple of
days and either deliver a peace of mind or let
you know, hey, there's a problem here that we might
want to consider fixing so it doesn't become a bigger

(18:38):
problem in the future.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
How big is the piece of equipment that you have
to put in somebody's home to do that?

Speaker 6 (18:42):
To do a rate on test. Small, Yeah, very small.
I'd say it's smaller than a notebook. Small, smaller than
an iPad, all right.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So it's not going to cause any issues in somebody's
day to day. No, how long do you have to
leave it at somebody's house.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Forty eight hours? So we typically it up about three
or four days later.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
Mad you either read right then or do you bring
it back and then do the read now?

Speaker 6 (19:06):
We get the results at the pickup in the home,
so our monitors can bluetooth to our iPads and we
get the results right away. So to kind of start
from the beginning, you know, we come out to the house,
we drop off the monitor. That takes maybe ten or
fifteen minutes to set it up. We always set it
up in the lowest possible living space, typically a basement.

(19:28):
From there, that monitor is going to take a sniff.
There's ionizers on the bottom that read rate on temperature, humidity, pressure,
and that's giving us a very accurate feedback on the
rate on levels in the home and we can tell
if there's any anomalies or any kind of funny business
going on. Sometimes that happens in real estate transactions, unfortunately, Yeah,

(19:50):
why did the temperature go from sixty degrees and then
an hour after we left it was it was at
eighty degrees for fort did you put it outside?

Speaker 4 (20:00):
It also moved.

Speaker 6 (20:00):
We can see that it moved, So yeah, that monitor
will take a sniff every hour, it'll read that data,
collect those data points for forty eight hours, and then
when we come back out to the home, we can
see minimum maximum average for all those different categories, and
we can make an accurate determination and just really try
to educate the homeowner on hey, what should you do next?

(20:23):
If it's above a four, Hey, we want to mitigate.
If it's between a two and a four, the EPA,
the American Lung Association, they're going to say you should
strongly consider it, depending on how you utilize the space.
So even if you're kind of below a four, but
you have a rec room in the basement or a
home office, or you have kids or dogs or cats
that spend time downstairs, or you work out in the basement,

(20:47):
that might be a reason to even mitigate a little
bit below a four. You come back below a two,
it's hey, you got peace of mind. We're in and
out of there in fifteen minutes. Again, typically we're going
to recommend another test in two years and and I'll
educate them on how they can go about getting that test.
They can get that test through us. They can get
a test through you know, like a home depot or

(21:08):
a Minard's a little charcoal test. They can go on
Amazon and get one of those digital monitors that bluetooth
to your phone and constantly reads again, rate on temperature.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
There's people that monitor it. And I would be one
of those two if I you know, I my solar
all the time. But okay, anyways, I got people saying,
you got to answer this question here. So everybody has
a basement is way colder than the upstairs has an
air ceiling problem.

Speaker 6 (21:32):
Joe, I'm going to pass that buck to you.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
You passed it over to Joe.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Because you said if your basement's colder and your upstairs
is warm, I won't I won't tell I won't tell
you my brother's name. But uh, well he was easy.
He's not believing you. He says you sure that your ceiling.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
Well, I mean I'm going to say it helps or
create or goes towards that problem. Yeah, because cold there
is warm or cold there is heavier than warm are.
I can tell you that a lot of projects that
I've done, it's definitely warmed up or made it less
colder in the basement. Yeah, just because air takes a
path of least resistance.

Speaker 3 (22:08):
Well, I'm just saying about it too, because even for
my own shop, I Mike's been to my place, right, Yeah,
we turn the air on there, you go downstairs, it's
like refrigerator, right, and you go upstairs and we go like, oh,
let's keep cranking it right, right, So that would air
ceiling would fix that. And I know it is leaking
because I can feel blown out of events on the
side of it. I don't even know. I didn't even
realize about that much. I know you guys are a

(22:28):
seel them. I didn't realize like that stuff because it's right,
it's actually there's no events, donsters, but there's so much
leaks that it's cool.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Those spider webs that are that are blowing around down
there in the basement, those aren't supposed to be moving.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
You've been to his bab You've been to that base
over there too.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Oh yeah, I try to get over there at least
once a month.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Hey, you know, with John over a water doctors. He's
the water geek. Here's the rad on geek right here,
here's Mike Selvester.

Speaker 3 (22:54):
When you go to my shop, you'll see those fancy
things stuck on my water meters and everything. Oh yeah, yeah,
he got me good.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Yeah yeah, I'm telling you, Mike Silvester. Can we only
have to go to a break because he can talk
about right on for a bit. Joe Saint Pierre as well,
Lifetime Right On Solutions. Go to lifetimerad on dot com
located now on one hundred and twenty fourth Street between
Berlin Capital and they will certainly come and come out

(23:19):
and I think for the most part to be able
to just give you peace of mind, which is the
most important part, and if there's an issue, they can
help you with it. We're going to talk about all
the different things that they offer at Lifetime Right On
Solutions and continue to talk about this process called aero seal.
Joe Saint Pierre, he's kind of the aero geek. Right
If you want to talk about how to play in

(23:41):
the post, he had a six to ten son who
played big time basketball. He might be able to talk
about that. But I think this is what he probably
knows most about. We'll get to a number of questions
that we have for these guys on the other side
of the break. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home
Improvement Show on Fox Sports nine twenty in your Eyes
Hurt Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin

(24:04):
Home Improvement Show, coming live from the Donovant, Donovan and
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now with your h fact go to Donovant Jorgenson dot com.
Get Ready falls around the corner, high school football starts.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
Mine another thing. We'll do your public service announcement with
all the smoke in the air. Yes, your air filters
are gonna get clogged a lot sooner. You're you can't
wait her once or your five years whatever you some
people wait now. I mean you're gonna have to do
it more often. And just when you look at your
filter after his last few days, you would be surprised
how full it is. And you get the warning. You
remember one time you called me, So I got this warning.

(24:39):
I can't forget what's come on? Yeah, so you gotta
change your filter? Well, no, then we called Zach he
came and changed the filter for us. She again, my
wife has Zack on speed dial.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Anything I try to do in my house, if I
try cleaning, you know, fixing something, she just calls Zach
to come over from Creative Construction, Wisconsin. Says, yeah, my
husband's trying something. You might be you might want to
come hover. I've got nine to one one ready and
I've got Sack.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
And you can't just take the filter out and turn
it backwards and put it back in.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
That's what Zach did. Well, I got that. Yeah, Okay,
I said the name of your company wrong. Sorry about that, boys, Mike, Sylvester, Joe,
Saint Pierre. They are no longer Lifetime Right on Solutions.
They had been forever, but now it's Lifetime Home Service.
You can go to Lifetime Home Service dot com for

(25:26):
more information. Hey, before we get into the tax credits
and stuff like that, Mike, can we talk a little
bit about the process right on your website again, Lifetime
Home Services dot Com. The first thing is a contact page, right,
just put your name and email and phone number and
what you guys name, what's the process to get you
guys to come out, and how much time and how

(25:49):
long will people wait to get you guys to come
out and have a conversation. So I'm wondering where you
guys are. If they call on Monday, can they have
somebody out yet next week to talk to them? Oh?

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, we have a pretty good response time.
We're at State Fair right now, so we're a little
bit busy, a little bit stretched, but no, we we
have no problem getting out to a home, you know,
And if anything anybody's going through, like a real estate
transaction or anything like that, we always prioritize those as

(26:19):
well because we understand that there's some time constraints. But yeah,
to get somebody to come out to the home and
deploy a raid on monitor or talk about arrow seal
or any of the other services that we offer, Yeah,
we can typically get someone out there within a week.

Speaker 1 (26:35):
And what is your real quick what is the territory
of the area that you guys cover? Where you go
as far as she Boy again, where you go, as
far as Manitouac, where you go Madison? Where where do
you guys go?

Speaker 6 (26:48):
Yeah, so for a lot of our services, you know,
all of our services cover southeast Wisconsin, raid on, aerowseeal,
couple of others basically the entire state of Wisconsin, Minnesota, Illinois, Colorado.

Speaker 4 (27:07):
Wow, we've expanded a little bit.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Yes you have, Yes you have again. They are Lifetime
Home Service dot Com, Lifetime Home Service Services Services.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
I'm on it right now. Hold on, I have a
I have a question. This came in if they have
if there's raid on in Raymond, Wisconsin, Raymond, Wisconsin, a
real Pacific question. Here is the right on there.

Speaker 6 (27:30):
I will get a real specific answer for him, but
it's going to take me like five minutes.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
Okay, great, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, when we go to a break and and hey, Joe,
when when when people ask you about what you do?
You guys do at Lifetime Home Services again, Lifetime Home
Services dot Com. It's more than than aarrow seal. But
that's kind of your specialty. Is that correct? Yes? Do
you get what? What do you What is your job

(27:58):
on a day to day basis you out and talk
to homeowners and and not only homeowners, but you guys
are big and commercial building. Is that your job to
go out and do the do the testing or do
you go out and and I just I'm wondering what
you do on a day to day.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
A little bit of everything. It's neat that you ask,
so I get involved with meeting with the homeowner. I'll
take a look at the house and get an idea
what's going on. Is it they trying to reduce their
energy they is it indoor air quality is a comfort?
So I'll meet and take a look at the home.
That's That's part of what I'll do when we're actually
doing aero seal projects. I'll come in and kind of

(28:38):
oversee the project. Not that we can't our guys can't
do it, of course, but I'll always come in and
just take a look and be part of that project.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
Part of that. It is nice on a person that
you know you sold a job to is talking to
you still, right, because you talked to one guy and
our guy shows up and goes where am I supposed
to do this when you send her employee over? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
And the fact that that you have been through all
of this, Like if you're just a sales guy who's
never been in the field or never seen this work,
but selling the service, it's different. You know, you could
talk to from start to finish on this thing, right.

Speaker 5 (29:13):
Absolutely, And being the guy who ran the machine for
years and years and years and you know, putting together
a project, actually doing the project, hauling it in and
out of a truck, and you know everything from a
to Z. It's it's kind of fun. I mean, I
have a passion for this, no question.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
Yeah you really do. Is that the health side, that
the money savings? Where does the passion for this product
and this company come from?

Speaker 4 (29:38):
For you?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
I would say that.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
The comfort piece for me is probably the best. Right,
You're somebody lives in a home for thirty years. I'll
give you a quick example. Somebody lives in a home
for thirty years and they take that one room upstairs
and they close that door because that room just gets
no air. It's like the abandoned room up there, right,
And I.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Make money and I then they'll close the closet two.
Then you get them old and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Nothing happens.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
You're taking money out of about the pocket by doing
all this. We all work together, Yes, you do.

Speaker 5 (30:11):
And then we come in and you know there's there's
you know, people have done what I call the toilet
paper tests. Take a piece of toilet paperly on top
of event and it hovers like a half an inch above. Right.
We come in and we do what we do. We
seal the duck work, and then all of a sudden,
eight hours six hours later there there's just there's thrust
of error coming out of that vent, which what comes

(30:33):
with air heat or what comes with their cool depending
upon the season. Now, all of a sudden, guess what,
the door's open. It's a room. It's part of the home.
Where before X amount of years ago that door was
closed and it was kind of not part of the house.
So now it's it's actually a usable room again. So
we're actually making houses functionally.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
Hey, the commercial side of it, I think that we
need to let people know that this isn't just residential
that you guys do. And can you talk a little
bit about the difference between what you guys do in
a residential home compared to a commercial building. You got
to be a huge difference as far as the amount
of time and energy that has to be put in

(31:15):
on the commercial side. But that's a big part of
what you guys do.

Speaker 5 (31:18):
It is you know, we work in hospitals, we work
in K through twelve, higher education, high rises, office buildings.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
I mean, at the end of the talk about radio stations.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Radio stations, let's get started this weekend. Let's go. You know,
well you're talking talk to Spencer. He's way more in
charge our producer here than that. He might be able
to give you the okay on that. I can't give
you the okay at all. But if you've got the
equipment in the car, just you know, go do what
you have to do. While I'm doing my high school show.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Oh yeah, I want to bring up some Mike's really
into a health and safety things, a lot of passion
into it. And now he's just he's also on the
board a step beyond Green. Now he just got elected
to the board.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Mike Sylvester, congratulations on that. Did you did you have
to go out and chase some hands it kiss babies
to get out of that or what?

Speaker 5 (32:04):
No?

Speaker 6 (32:06):
They invited me and and I was, you know, humbled
and honored to accept. And there they're Step Young Green
to Healthy is a really great group. They're a local nonprofit.
They're also located one hundred and twenty fourth in Brookfield.
Really great people over there.

Speaker 1 (32:21):
Jonathan Jonathan is one of my favorite. When he comes in,
it just uh, he's got so much passion and every
time he comes in I ask him the story and
how how they started, and he gives this story about
having a cup of coffee with a woman who always
felt sick in her house and couldn't and nobody and
she wanted to be able to build or have her

(32:43):
her home be healthy, and she thought she kept going
to doctors. And then Jonathan was so intrigued with it
and he dug in figured it out, and now he
has this And I'm a big fan of his and
and pretty cool that.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
Even at her even at her yeah, the radio. Yeah,
it's like when she's on, we're like, you try not
to cry. Man.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
There's a lot of She went through a lot of
a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Do you know what. And that's in fact, that's one
of the reasons I asked you about the the feeling
healthy side, because I always go back to her. She
wrote a book about it, and now she has this
servant leadership hard about helping other people because she thought, no,
there's no doctors that can tell me what's the matter
with me, and got involved with Jonathan. And she had
talked to five or six other people and they were like,

(33:28):
we can't I don't know, Chamba can't help you. Jonathan
didn't do that and he hung with her for like
a couple hours and then went to work on how
to have her feel better. And I so, I'm a
big fan of his and I'm glad that you're on
the board, and I hope that you can continue to talk,
get up in the mountain talk and talk about some
of the things they do over there.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
I well, before we get into that, I do have
an answer for your friend and Raymond. So, Wisconsin Department
of Health and Human Services has an interactive map anybody
can look at up online. Just you know, do a
search for Wisconsin rate on Map or Wisconsin Interactive Map
and you'll pull it up and you can search any

(34:08):
zip code you want, and it'll tell you the number
of homes tested, the number of homes that tested at
or above four pico quries per leader, which is our
action level for Radon. It'll give you the average rate
on level for that zip code, and it'll give you
the maximum recorded rate on level for that zip code. Now,
this is just information that's given to Department of Health

(34:30):
and Human Services. I do like to let people know
when they test with Lifetime Home Services. We believe that
that information is proprietary, so that stays between us and
the homeowner. If they want to share it with anybody else,
that's perfectly fine. But I looked up Raymond had a
couple of zip codes. I didn't know what it was,
so I had to google it. Five three one oh

(34:50):
eight was one of them. The number of homes tested
and reported back to the state in that zip code
was seventy five. Of those seventy five tests, fifty seven
point three percent came back bad, came back high. Your
average rate on levels a four point three. Some poor
soul tested his home and came back at a thirty

(35:11):
point eighth. Man A thirty point eight would be the
health risk equivalent of smoking sixty cigarettes a day, which
is about three packs. I think unless they changed how
many cigarettes are in a pack in the last decade.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Okay, I'm telling here's a good chance, and you should
just call you yeah and good chance.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
There's a good chance.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
And I like to show this map to people because
even when you look at you can look at certain
zip codes, like you can look at the state Fair
zip code where we're.

Speaker 4 (35:41):
At this week.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
Is this got worse? He's also got a stone foundation.
Oh yeah, yea, So it's pouring in.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Is he turning green already?

Speaker 3 (35:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (35:51):
I know you're listening right now. Are you glow at night?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
Yeah? He doesn't need any night lights.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Man, Now I just scared him.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
You would use to word the court. But what is it?

Speaker 4 (36:02):
Pico curious per leader.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Yeah, did you explain what that is? Because I find
it really interesting.

Speaker 6 (36:08):
By the way, it's not that interesting, but pico curi's
is essentially how we measure radiation here in the United States.
Pico is Latin.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
For tablespoon, math, tablespoon?

Speaker 4 (36:21):
What is it for something?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
It's a mathemat but.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
Now I'm hungry, But it's a math expression.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Yeah, so it's it's a it's a measurement. Pico is
a Latin term. I forget exactly what it's for.

Speaker 4 (36:38):
Thank you? Sure?

Speaker 3 (36:39):
And then uh, he looked it up.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
I know. I went to a Catholic school. We spoke
latinous curie.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
We get that from Madam Curry, who was one of
the pioneers in discovering radiation in the late eighteen hundreds
early nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (36:55):
I thought Stanley did that.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Stanley Stanley brought raid on to the map. So if
you haven't heard the Stanley Watcher's story. It's Bingo's favorite
bedtime story. Stanley worked at the Limerick Power Plant in Pennsylvania.
They were building a nuclear power plant. This was around
like nineteen eighty three. There was no radioactive materials in

(37:18):
the plant. But Stanley went through the radioactive detectors one
day and they went off and they couldn't find you know,
they did all these investigations, they couldn't find anything in
the power plant. They eventually go to Stanley's house. They
test his home and he came back. Remember four is
our action level. Anything above four we want to mitigate.

(37:40):
Stanley's home tested at two thousand, seven hundred people curis
per lead. Of course, Stanley, so he was walking around
with radon rayd On decay products they can attach to
like dust particles and stuff. So those dust particles were
on his clothes. He was walking around with Raydon and
rayd On DeKay particles on his clothes, and he set
off the radiation detectors that day.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
There we go, and that's how there's the Stanley. He
never thought he would be famous for that, but he
definitely is, Hey, we're gonna get to a break other
side of the break. I want to talk more about
the commercial side and then if people are going to
get involved in this, there's a real reason to do
that before the end.

Speaker 5 (38:19):
Of the year.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Correct, Absolutely, we're going to talk about that on the
other side of the break. These guys are from Lifetime
Home Services. You can go to Lifetime Home Services dot Com.
Mike Silvester, Joe Saint Pierre in studio. I'm telling you,
these guys are the raid on geeks. Nobody knows more
about this stuff than these guys in the passion they

(38:40):
have to be able to come into your home and
make the people in your home feel better the health
side of it, save a little money and make sure
your HVAC system lasts a.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
Little bit longer.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Go to Lifetime Home Services dot Com. Any information you
need on this company you can find there. This is
the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox Sports
nine twenty in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to
the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement Show on Fox Sports
nine twenty in your iHeartRadio app. Coming live from the

(39:11):
Donovan and Jorgensen heat, Andy Cooleian Studios, him Mike mcgiver
alongside Bingo Emmans. He's the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin
and our special guests has been a great show. Mike Silvester, Joe,
Saint Pierre. Joe Saint Pierre six' ten kid who played AT.
Uwm it's his. Son in case you're, Wondering Lifetime Home

(39:31):
services is the name of this. Company go To Lifetime
Home services dot. Com during the, Break, joe we're talking
a little bit about dust and before we get to
the tax credit, thing BECAUSE i think that's really important
to end the show. With people have to get involved
now to save some. Money but you were talking about
how important at LEAST i t you up on the

(39:51):
whole dust thing and what you guys can do to help.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
That. Yeah think about doc. Work it runs through walls
to get to rooms a, home, Right, well what's what's
inside the walls that we Don't we don't want, insulation,
fiberglass anything else that's not. Good, well duck. Work we'll
go through those walls through these leaks that we keep talking.
About the duckwork draws what's in walls into the duck.

(40:14):
Work it gets into your home and then it gets
into our duck. Work WHAT i mean by that is our,
lungs and we don't want, that. Right so it goes
back to if we seal the duck. Work now we're
keeping what's in the walls in the, walls and we're
making our quality of better in our. Home maybe we
can reduce the dust a little. Bit let the filter
be a, filter you, know down by the, Furnace and
that's the idea of making a better health friend the.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Home it, truly there's a lot of sick in the.
DRYWALL i, mean you know that's that's the next one
we had. Lead now we're doing the other.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
One, Hey, mike before we get into the tax credit
part of, THIS i got a. Text if somebody goes
to a big box store did and it just buys
like a raid on, test those are, available correct and
are they? Accurate?

Speaker 6 (41:01):
Yeah, ABSOLUTELY a lot of big box stores will sell
what's called a charcoal. Test they're fairly, accurate almost just
as accurate as like a digital, monitor but they are
more prone to human, error so sometimes they get maybe
lost in the, mail and then the lab can't read the.
Results they do take a little bit longer to get.

(41:21):
Results it might might take two to three, weeks and
then with a charcoal. Test you're only getting one, number
so you're getting your average over that forty eight or
seventy two hours versus a digital test that we offer
where you're getting minimum maximum average for radon as well
as your.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
Humidity your test is. Free you have to buy that
one and it's not that.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
Accurate, yeah, Right so yours is free and you get
all the number.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
Correct sometimes you can get those free charcoal tests through
Like department Of health And Human. Services sometimes local libraries
will give them away a lot of times they'll do,
that like In november During lung Cancer Awareness month Or
january which is right on awareness. Month but, yeah it
would be a little bit, easier a little bit more,
accurate a little bit more. Professional they just call it my,

(42:09):
dad you, know my dad would always say, these because
you always. DID i love that neighbor.

Speaker 3 (42:12):
Group it's.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Free what's wrong with?

Speaker 1 (42:14):
Free use that a.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
LOT i know that was his.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
Thing people hear free these days and they're, like you,
know what's the, Catch. Mica there is no. Catch there's
no obligation to do anything with.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Us or because you guys even say that if we find,
it you can get anybody you want to fix, it.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
For, Sure, hey if somebody, says, LOOK i IF i just,
crack IF i just patch the cracks in my basement,
floor that'll take care of. It what do you say to?
Them not necessarily hear on THE, bc but you could
hear them go, like why would somebody do? That but
That's i'm sure you get that.

Speaker 3 (42:47):
Question because WHEN i go to the, basements we do
partying and stuff like. This you, see like the sub
pump is sealed. Up they got like this a little
thing and there's a little. Tube BUT i don't know
what the tube is, for but it's like a tube
of liquid in. It there's all kinds of stuff that
you need to be needs to be hooked up by
someone knows what they're.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
Doing one hundred percent go ahead on THE i could just,
CRACK i could just, put you, know fix the cracks
in my. Basement that'll make the radon go.

Speaker 4 (43:10):
Away it, Could it could. Help it might not make
it go.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
Away it's going to depend, on you, know how much
radon is emanating from beneath the from beneath the. Foundation
you got to remember, too that concrete is. Porous and you,
know say IF i took a bottle of water and
went into my garage and poured it out or into my.
Basement AND i walked away for an hour and came,
back that puddle would be. Gone, now, yeah some of

(43:36):
it would have. Evaporated i'd still see a wet spot
there in the. Concrete that water is going down through the.
Concrete radon is just a radioactive gas that's traveling in
the other.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Direction, hey, Hey. Joe when somebody, says And i've heard,
THIS I I i bought a radon resistant, home and
SO i don't have to worry about, this what do
you tell? Them a radon resist and, YEAH I.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I've never heard of a radon resistant. Home they might
have a rad on.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Mitigation, system, okay but a rad on mitigation, system.

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Yeah oh that's what's where you buy a home that's pre.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Done oh, yeah So bingo was mentioned in.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
EARLIER a lot of a lot of great contractors, nowadays
a lot of new a lot of great builders out.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
There they'll install good.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
Builders oh, yeah there you.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Go you don't install rate on mitigation during the new construction.
Phase and oftentimes it's less.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Expensive reason why you say, resistant because you can't guarantee
that that will solve the.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Problem they set it.

Speaker 3 (44:39):
Up so if you ever do have, radon you can
plug in the machine to the pipe because it's a negative.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Pressure that makes.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Sense, OKAY i taught these guys. SOMETHING i, mean you,
know next, Time, sylvester next time you come, in you
better be well versed on radon resistant. Homes it's something
that's out there and you got to make sure BECAUSE
i think that's a selling point AND i think people
have to understand that there's really not exactly something that's
going to do that tax CREDIT oca talk to me.

(45:07):
About people should get involved with you guys before the
end of the year because this is going. Away. Correct,
yes there's a.

Speaker 5 (45:13):
Tax credit that will be done At december thirty First
Inflation Reduction. Acts it's thirty percent tax credit for doing
the euro seal up to twelve hundred.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
Dollars so that is, great but it will go. Away
if you're thinking about, this thought about. It if you
haven't thought about, it now would be the. Time and
they can get this done before the end of the.

Speaker 3 (45:34):
Year if they call, you you can have this thing
completed or you just have a contract with you guys
by the end of the.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
Year it has to be completed By december thirty, first.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
By What december thirty first is? That is there any
tax credit for commercial?

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Use Not Inflation Reduction? Act, okay, no so no worries on.
That do you get more business more calls on commercial or?
Residential do you think? Residential we get more calls on?

Speaker 1 (46:00):
Absolutely when when somebody when, look you had talked her
in the break there there's some pretty pretty big time
buildings in The milwaukee area that you guys have been involved,
in and he, said, look we don't need, to but
with the buildings you're talking, about everybody knows you guys
have been involved in.

Speaker 5 (46:17):
Those mike, Correct, yes we've done. Some we've done some
pretty tall buildings In. Milwaukee there you, go some forty
something story buildings where we've done the exhaust duck work
in the. Buildings on how much time we, have but
one more, minute one more. Minute we've done exhaust risers
and for stair risers and or four stair.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Doctors do you get called to an individual condo or
do you normally get called to the.

Speaker 5 (46:41):
Through THE hoa? People and in condos it can be
h O. A we work with, engineers we work with building,
owners and that can be a whole other.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Conversation do you do you go if somebody like me
wants to just come in and check our? Condo individual
condos you're okay, with but, choays then you can do them.

Speaker 4 (47:01):
All.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Absolutely, Yeah they're tough to deal with.

Speaker 5 (47:03):
Sometimes just give me a.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
Call, Yeah i'm, Well i've. Getten the girls by the
pool are all, saying, hey you got to run for the.
Board i'm, like leave me, alone don't talk to. ME
i feel that's coming for.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
ME i feel its.

Speaker 3 (47:17):
Condos it's always our somebody just moved in three months
ago because they don't, know, Well i'm supposed to get
some prices from me in this AND i here we.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
GO i, know, Well i'm dealing with that right. Now in,
fact we got we got a bingo discount for somebody
who came out to check our. Gunners And i'll tell
you about it one. Day BUT i love That Mike.
Silvester i'm gonna call you the radio geek from now.
On sorry if that nickname, sticks but it is what it. Is, Hey,
joe it's really.

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Nice town is a leaker.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Expert, yeah, yeah there he is leaker. Expert, Hey, joe one,
day Maybe i'll have you come in and we'll we'll
talk about what it was like watching our sons play
basketball and how much we miss. It say hello to
your your son for, me it's a really good to meet.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
You coming To january for It's rate On awareness.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Month, well and it's high school basketball, season so we
could have him come. In Mike, Sylvester Joe Saint, Pierre
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