December 20, 2025 • 46 mins
Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, December 20th, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But welcome to the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports Night twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming
live from the Donovan and Jorgensen Heating and Cooling Studios.
I'm Mike McGarry alongside my co host. He's the owner
of Creative Construction Wisconsin Bingo Emin's Bingo.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Merry Christmas, Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You know we're excited. We're excited because you know, Shelby
is like, you know, three plus couple of months. Yeah,
we're yeah, we're good. We're gonna do the whole. You're
not gonna spoil her, right, No, she's way past being spoiled,
like Sam always complains all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know, you can say no to right, no, no
way no.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I said no to my kids enough. I don't need
to say no to my grandkids.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It sounds like you know, I think you know, I swear,
I think you like your granddaugh would have been your own kids.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Fact.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And then I get to send them home, send them
with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
For sure, I guessnot's gone on them.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're done, Yeah, we're done.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You can take them here, get them all recharge get
them all refreshing. I'll take her, I'll take her back.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We're kind of like the same grandfather. I'm telling you, hey,
before we get into our show, I've got to thank
somebody I met. I met somebody a new company that
I didn't had not done business with, but they did
a really good job. And I want to thank Darlene
and the people at Donovan Mirror and Glass. So I
had called Zach and the mirror in my wife's bathroom cracked.
(01:20):
And when we bought this condo and the people that
flipped it, some of the stuff they did really good
and high quality stuff, and then a couple of things
they kind of got a little cheap on. And one
was this mirror and it cracked on the bottom. And
the same day that crack moved all the way to
the top.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Was under warranty or nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No no, no, no no. And I called Zach and
I said, hey, I'm thinking about yeah, and again another
mirror that I'm trying to figure out. And he said, hey,
you know, let me know and we'll figure it out.
And you guys are so busy. And I called the
people at Donovan Mirror and Glass and talked to Darlene
a lot, and they came, they sent you guys out.
(02:01):
Other than one of their guys being a beer fan,
they did a great job and I was so.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, you were sitting the truck, but the rest of
you guys are worth No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
He was really good. So I'm like, all right, I'll
look past the whole Bear Packer thing, but I just
want to thank those guys, and they did a really
good job. There's a couple of options for us, and
the fact that they were able to get us in
and get this thing done before Christmas. I just really
appreciate them and Darlene over at Donovan mirror Glass and
(02:32):
their whole team did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I just want to think that, well you play a
wait to tell him that do you know what my
brother is? Did you do that?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I did not. We talked sports, so they maybe didn't
know my brother if we were talking theater and maybe
I had brought that up, but no, Donovan mirror Glass.
I just want to thank those guys a lot. Hey,
before we get to our special guest, tough week in
the sport that you absolutely love and had a plane
crash and one of the really good guys.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's always a nice guys. He's one of those guys
that you know him and Garrett, you know, known as
Gleaves Bag Farland, those guys. You know, they did a
lot of work rescue working that with their own personal helicopters,
their own personal money, did a lot of rescue work
for the hurricane in North Carolina, did a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And he's one of those guys that just do charities
and do stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And you know, and I'm getting stories about you know,
she's just sent out, you know, because she does that
secret Sando stuff. So she she wrote seven, like seventeen
letters just before she left and had to have her
mom mail real quick because we're leaving for this trip
that she's going. Oh man, yeah, I mean she's what
the That's just one of those families that just give, give,
give back all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And it's you know, it's always the good ones.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. Well, Bingo, you you understand that servant leadership Hart,
And it's not something we're born with, it's something it's
a learned behavior. And I've read a lot about him
and his family and how much he gave back and
how much he tried to help people.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
And you're right, Yeah, but I've seen you know, when
you see him at the track, he's just nice, just
a nice person, glad to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, he tries to remember your name, is a
really nice guy.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, well I did, Greg Biffel, right, yeah. Yeah. The
family and a couple other people passed in in a
in a h An airplane crash. They went up and
and you listened and they said, hey, I'm stalling.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I guess yes, I've engined. Yeah, something was going wrong,
start coming back and yeah on the last transmission is
you know the stalling?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh boy was it? Man? Oh man? So rough. We're
gonna be a rough Christmas for the people left in
that family for sure. Hey, our special guest and other
than we're in one of the ugliest Christmas sweaters.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
But that's just as soon as our live streaming, you're going, yeah,
you want to bring them, Well, we're going to look
into that in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We'll have Spencer figure that part out for us. Our
special guest, residential construction sales manager for Warner not Warner
Electric Supply anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's that's new.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's new.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
That just brings news, right, it is pretty breaking. It's
the start at Q four. We we rebranded to just Werner,
so it's one Werner dot com.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Hey, it's nice to meet you very well. Thank you you.
Grafton Boys stay champion. If we can talk high school
football if you want. His coach Norris did a nice
job bringing the bringing the gold ball back to Grafton.
How long have you been with Warner.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I've been with Werner for it'll be eleven years in February.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Hey, and and talk to me about electrical electric Supply
is what the name of the company was for a
long time. What you guys don't do the electrical work,
but you supply the the the stuff that that people
like Colonel Electric would use. And I know you guys
do a lot of work with with Chuck Smith. And
(05:42):
the first thing you said to me was we do
a lot. I'd like to do more with them. Were like,
you know what, I'll help you with that. Chuck Smith's
one of the real good guys in this world. I'm
just a huge fan of he has been been doing
the mcgiverern Agency has worked with them for a long time.
And I've worked with with Chuck and the and the
Superhero is that current Electric a lot, and maybe we'll
set up a lunch and the three of us will
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go out and just kind of chat for a while.
That'd be perfect. Talk to me a little bit about
kind of the mission statement behind Werner and what you
guys do. You have. Your main office is an Apple Tint.
You also have an office in Pewaukee, which is my hometown. Correct. Now,
I've been there three years and I drive one's sixty
four and I see you're building quite a bit. You
(06:25):
personally are between the offices, correct.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, So at Werner we've been around for over seventy
seven years. We've been doing industrial automation, commercial construction. We
really got into the residential game in January of twenty
two and that I took over that division and so
I run residential construction sales across the state. We have
eleven branches that are true full like counter branches where
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people can come in get stuff from the counter. We
also have a twelfth office. It's a wire fulfillment center.
It's right off of Mount Pleasant, right there by where
the Microsoft Data Center is.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So people like me, like just a consumer, can't walk
in and buy stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You can our normal We'll say customer is going to
be the tradesman. It's going to be the maintenance person.
Like we generally don't deal with the end user, okay,
or the normal just homeowner. So we have a lot
of homeowners that come into our counter.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But he sells the people that they specifically know what
they want. They're buying equality to buying aparts from him
that they need.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, so that people in the trades, so people.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Like Kurnel Electric and people who they compete with would
be somebody that So your day to day operations, you personally,
are you talking to people like Chuck Smith at Kernel Electrics.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I'm dealing with electricians, I'm dealing with architects, designers, builders,
all of the above, project managers. But it's all in
the construction trade.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
When you see a subdivision get built up, there's long
about utilities. He can tell you about the shortages or
what what you can get, what you can't get. I mean,
you know, I'm on a community with them that you
run with utilities. That's a whole different part of construction
that most people don't even know about.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Hey, and before we get more into what Warner does
you personally when we talk about this this race car
driver that he cared more about giving back to the community. Look,
I'm looking at your bio and the state you're on
about every other board, right, you're on board.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You do a fair amount.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
The idea of giving back and being able to network
and help people is something that obviously important to you.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's huge, huge for me. When I was growing up
in sales back in the early two thousands, I had
the privilege to hear zig Ziggler speak. She's one of
the things that he always used to say is if
you help enough people get what they want in life,
you'll have everything you ever need. I'm a big fan
of that. That's how I live my life. It's what
I teach my kids. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, you married, how many kids?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Married to kids?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What's your wife's name?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Christy?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And your kids' names?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Riley and Ethan?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And how old?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Fifteen and fourteen? Riley's fifteen she's a sophomore at Grafton
and Ethan's fourteen a freshman.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Sports kids.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Riley does taekwondo and shoots trap Okay, oh okay, it's
pretty awesome. And then Ethan is put him in front
of anything, He'll do it. Soccer swimming, baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So do you know from nine to eleven every Saturday
after this show, I do a high school sports show
for two hours and in the summertime we'll do baseball
or softball one week and then talk about sports that
nobody else talks about. And we did trap I had
no idea how big that was in the state of
Wisconsin at the high school level, had no idea. And
(09:42):
when they came in and they start talking about the
numbers and how many kids are involved in it and
going up to two of the scot Krapas, Yeah, Nakusha,
what a big deal. That is good.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's pretty crazy. Yeah, we did not have this opportunity
when I went to high school at Grafton. The fact
that they have it now and they started in middle school.
So she's been shooting since seventh grade. And it's awesome.
You learn to a pheasant hunter and everything. Now it's great.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You what a great are you into that you hunt? So?
What a what a cool? But father daughter bonding.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Time it's awesome and it's really fun because I'm able
to take all of the kids. So it's me, Riley
and Ethan go out hunting and my wife gets her
day to not have to worry about anything.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
She doesn't come out with you. No, and her name
is Christy. Christie, I'd hang out with you. I'd hang
out you and I we we could just kind of
hang out.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
And Deb's in the same boat because like hunting fish
or whatever, we cannot bring those animals into our halls. No,
she can buy a fish from a store all day long,
but right she sees eye on it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's not come into the house. Well, Christie, I would hang.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Out yell that plenty of times because I use our
kitchen sink to the birds.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I would hurt Christie, and I would go to
a movie while you were doing that. I'm with I'm
with her for sure. Hey, since nineteen forty eight, Warner's
been around, and you know I on your website. What
I like is that first line just to provide customers
quality electrical products and services. Right throughout the years, Werner,
(11:15):
you know you've worked to meet challenging customer needs. And
that's kind of you. You're putting puzzles together on a
daily basis. If I went back to you as a
senior at crafton years ago and said, hey, you know
how many years from now we're going to be able
to radio show and for an hour you're going to
talk about electrical supplies. What would you have said to me?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I would have said you were nuts. I mean, I
would have probably said something else, but I was told
I couldn't use those words.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah you're not using here. You know what Spencer's good,
but he's not that good.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So I grew up in a family that sold medical products,
so I was doing medical sales in high school at
that time. So I would have told you I would
have been a salesperson, but I would have never thought
I would have found my way into the trades and
in construction and electrical and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
How did that happen? Because you had owned your own
company for a while yep, and decided not to make
a make a career move, and how did that happen?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So there's a long story there, but the short version
is I ended up merging a business with my parents,
and I realized that it wasn't good for us as
we were developing a family with Christy, and we got
pregnant and all of that, and work was work, and
it was becoming more and more work, and it was
tied with my family and we couldn't separate the two.
So we decided. I decided to just walk away from
(12:30):
that business and look for something new. I found Werner
because it's a privately owned, family owned, Wisconsin owned company,
and they seemed to treat when I was looking. They
treated their employees right, they treated their customers.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, perfect, and your parents are right.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Everything they're they're doing good. There's still you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Take it out Christmas wise, everything.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Will be there Christmas eve good, good good. Our relationship
got better when I left the business.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You know. It's almost like coaching, right. I coached my
son and uh in basketball, and that sophomore year that
I coached him was not great. But I was the
adult in the room and I had to make some changes.
And I'm glad that you saw that. And that was it.
It's been a really good move for you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, it's been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Hey, when when people talk about the families, because family,
I've been through all this stuff, but we've been through it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was like, yeah, I was never gonna work for
my dad.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There was no way, right, you know, and then he's
can help me for a couple of weeks in eighty
six and here I am here and then you know,
same thing. My son, my daughter never had no way.
Katie always said she was good and she's the only
one that's not working Sam, Sam and Zach. I mean
they run the company, now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And you guys can separate them. Look, I know Zach
has got a lot of interest outside of work. Sam
obviously has a ton of interest with horses and with
Shelby and taking care of Aaron. But look, you guys
are able to separate work from from home life.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Right, Yeah, we do that.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
We do that too, but it isn't I but we
just talk about right, And it's like, you know, we're
talking about that because you know, we got a short
week coming up, and you know, not everybody wants torect
Oor house duties for Christmas some stuff around, right, And
I said, well, we're going to a Christmas party on
Saturday night, Aaron, I'll talk about come up plan on
Saturday night, you know. And they say, you know, you
say we can't talk business. We don't spend a lot
of Time's not. That's all we do is talk business, right, right.
(14:20):
It's you know, it's like it's like the mafia. You
don't talk.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
About it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That you talk about yourselves. We don't sit there in
front of a whole bunch of people. Hey, what job
are you doing next week?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But don't ever go against the family. Don't go against
the family.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Careful and you get kissed on the forehead and that family.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh yeah, and hey, just get in the back seat
over there in the creative Constructions truck. I'm not good.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I wonder what happened if Debbi kissed you for it?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
She would come in the studio and do it, then
we can talk about it. But she's not doing that. Hey, Mike,
when you started with Warner did you start on the
ground floor? How did how did that work? And how
have you progressed throughout the eleven years?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So I came in as new business to in sales.
When they hired me, I had only ever known medical
sales and with the family business that I grew up in.
And so I came over and they're like, you gotta
do two million and two years. I go, is that normal?
Is that new? Is that what normal people can do?
And they're like, oh, yeah, that's that's pretty normal. I
(15:18):
was like I So I found out I was the
first guy in maybe five or six years who was
given an account package of zero. But I did one
point nine to eight in two years, so they kept me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You didn't hit that budget.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I didn't, but I was. I was pretty darn close.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So not a close is not I would have fired you.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I just came.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's a thing I might have too, I'm just kidding. Good,
good for you. And then as you moved, obviously you
now you travel quite but you told me how many
miles you put on that.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We did just about forty eight thousand miles this year,
So lot did you drive it?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah? What's your territory then?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So we cover all of Wisconsin and then up into
the up Our offices are Iron Mountain, Stevens Point, Wassaw,
Green Bay, Appleton, Fond of lac Kenosha, Madison, Janesville, Wow, Pewaukee.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, you know, I just saw some You can actually
take a cruise ship down from Milwaukee from Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh yeah, so you could? You know they can save
on your.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Miles on truck.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I might have to look at that.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, you know what, I and I took the one
the lake expressed a couple of times over in Missipis
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
But there's actually a cruise ship. I saw it on
like Facebook. It goes all around all this lake and
it goes through it upper Lake.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
There you go. You don't have to put all those miles.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
How many ports do biking one on biking cruise.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So there you go, bring your bike and and and
get going for that.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
As I'm saying, so you can you can take that
and you can deduct it because you say miles on
your truck.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know what, if they're listening and they're gonna get
they're gonna be going, Hey, that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think if I had an expense for a cruise
in Lake Michigan, I might get questions.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You might get questioned, especially if if your wife and
two kids are with you. For sure, Hey, in your industry,
there's been so many changes in the eleven years. So
you've got to the educational side of what you do.
You've got to be on tap of all this because look,
the trends and smart and people are able to do
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a lot of things right now. You know, when you're
my age, you just want to turn the light on
the way we've always done it. Other people are like, look,
I'm five minutes from home. I'm going to utilize my
app and my phone to turn the lights on, turn
the music on, get the fireplate, all of that. And
we're going to get into that in the second segment
because I have some questions with that, but you've got
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to be on TAPA all that.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So we are constantly looking learning, going to manufacturers. I
go to the International Builders Show to see what's new,
what's coming, what's on the coasts, and what to bring
back to the Midwest because we are generally about five
to ten years behind usually on trends. And that's okay.
That is totally okay because a lot of the stuff
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starts and fails and then doesn't go anywhere, so we
don't have to worry about those little hiccups.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Well, and and the fact that that shake carpeting
is now just not a thing anymore around here. I
understand that whole disco is coming back from from what
I hear. Hey, when when you get a chance, chew.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I was just gonna, you know, interrupt you about education.
You know, He's part of education is constant. I mean,
and now people don't realize that. So I'm certified in
that if you're certified on two years. So much has
changed in the last two years, especially electrical. I mean
they're changing. You can buy something. It's like if you
buy a computer now from you know the name of
box store, right when you go home, it's probably outdated already, right,
(18:39):
I mean there's there's new versions, better version that yours
is obsolete. You know, you weren't whatever, And just saying that, yes,
the electrical world to stay on top of it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's got to. I mean, things are changing so fast.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean it's got to be a full time job
just trying to pay attention to what what new products
are coming out today.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, we had we had Wade from Current Electric out
and you put a new ceiling fan in my office
because the other one was And it was there for
a week and it was fine, and all of a
sudden stopped working. So he came out and took it apart,
and the wire he just had a duct tape the
wire together so it would stay. And he was like,
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you know, I was going to just take it down
and have you bring it back, but let me take
a look at it. And so he him and his
guy were playing with it, and he said, look, when
I move it just a little, it goes back on.
So let me just tape this and do that. And
I think you should probably consider this. And I go
get out of my house because anytime look they you know,
we have a couple outlets have with grandkids. We should
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probably get updated. But and they look around, right, they
these guys are smart enough, and when they have ideas,
they're like, hey, is Terry available. I'm like, no, she's not,
she's working. Go just go and Wade just laughs and yeah,
it's it's really good. Him and Hunter hunters a hunter. Yeah,
he's a big, big, big driver and.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
We're just he slinger. He raises that slinger.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, so he's a current electric guys. Well, hey, Mike,
we're going to get to a break. Other side of
the break, I've got some questions for you with with
color changing canlights. Smart control is where we're going to start,
because I've got a couple of text messages with people saying, hey,
could you ask him about this? So our special guest
for the entire hour, residential construction sales manager at Warner
(20:25):
correct I crossed off electric supply at Warner They've got
locations all over the state of Wisconsin. Mike is in
Pewaukee and Appleton, but pretty much every office I go,
everywhere he goes all over. It's Mike Turkowski Tarowski, Tarowski.
I was close. Mike Tarowski is our special guest again.
Residential construction sales manager at Warner. Go to one Warner
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dot com, the number one, the word one one Warner
dot com for any information that you need on this company.
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alongside my co host, the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin,
(21:30):
Bingo Emmons, and our special guest. Now I'm not gonna
get his last name.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
It's Mikeowski.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's nice and easy. It's a nice Polish name right there.
Married My wife's maid name is Paplinski, so I get that. Sure, yeah,
that whole Why did Polish people have ski at the
end of their name because they can't spell toboggan. He goes,
that's not funny. Quit saying that joke. Here's the resident
Mike mcgart heymad because they can't spell toboggan. It's very
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funny to be he's the resident construction sales manager.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Also a public service announcement about about the mirror incident.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mike did not get cut this time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, And guess what. I did not get cut because
I brought in the experts for that. And you know,
Dev because she's very funny, said don't touch.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Them well, because you know, you have a reputation every
time you work on the mirror. It's not somebody got big.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Glasses and gloves, and Zach makes fun of me and
and but I tried. I looked at it, but I thought,
now I'm just going to get another Donovan mirror, and
Glass came in to help me. So I appreciate that. Hey, Mike,
a lot of changes. Obviously, it's always stuff in your business.
There's always stuff going on. But people that are totally
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involved with smart control and they they love to be
able to utilize that. Can we talk a little bit
about key components and devices when it comes to that,
smart switches and dimmers and smart plugs. I just smart thermostats.
I don't understand a lot of that, but everybody can.
Man you can pretty much control your house from your phone. Nowadays.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You can control your house from your phone and it
can start everywhere from your load center in true energy management,
so where your circuit breakers are and everything in the house.
You can get a smart load center nowadays where you
can manage every single circuit that's in your house. See
what amps are being drawn up to doing your switches
and dimmers. Like our coach lights at our house are
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run on a lutron system. Of course they are, so
the coach lights come on.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Is right.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
System on your coach lighthouse?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No, No, I barely have a I got a dimmer house,
so excited. I'm not kidding My wife and I think
way to the people like Curl Electric. They put dimmer
switches for our kitchen and we just keep messing around
with it.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
In a given family, you know, Mike's got older and
people think in a given family, he was the guy
that had to go around light the light the candles
on the street.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yes, ouch, that hurts all right. Now we're even on
that whole always joke, that Toboggan joke. But I can
tell you that it makes a world of difference if
we're cooking or if we have you know, we put
on a little berry white and we're slow dance and
you want that mood light. Sure, And I can tell
you that something as simple as that makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Now you can even just say, hey, Alexa, turn down
my lights or change the setting to this, or if
you have the right system set up, you can use
your Alexa and Google Play and Apple Play.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's I'm still having trouble used to it because I go
to people's customers house and they'll say, you know what
great Google or hey Android or hey something Alexa. They'll
say something, yeah, turn the lights on, turn this on
that you know, and there's no switches.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I know how you do it. It's too much for me.
I've got to be My kids are all into that,
and we're just like, no, we know where the light switches.
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm getting used to because I like it because you know,
I get a delivery at the shop, right, they push
a button and rings on my phone. I can open
the garage door, reset the alarm when they leave. You know,
just things you can do. And I I mean all
the gravestors are all on my phone home, every single
one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, and there the cameras on the door, right. I mean,
we just saw that workout right at Brown University where
they went to the neighbors and said, we need to
we need all the footage that we can get. When
when somebody asks you the benefits of smart technology in
your industry, what do you tell them?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So besides security and control, it's also knowledge and it
could be preventative maintenance too, depending on what you're doing.
Like when I talked about that energy management system. We're
in a land of some pumps and generators in Wisconsin.
And if you have an energy management system and your
some pump normally draws eight amps and now it's drawn
eleven amps, you're able to monitor that and see that,
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and it's like, maybe I should be replacing my some
pump instead of having a some pump failure and a
flood in the basement.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, then you would have to teach your customers what
do you even look for? But because of you told
Mike a watch your ambridge, He's like, many, excuse.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Me, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Are we playing the guitar or what? Half am I watching?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah? I look. When we moved into this, this new
condo in Pewaukee, and again they a lot of the
stuff they did was really good, and some stuff they
went cheap on our thermosteat was like one of the
old ones with the dial sure, and it was a
When we moved in November three years ago, it was
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a rainstorm and we were moving stuff in and I
called the president over at Donovan Jorians and Scott Fisher
and I said, hey, next week, I'd like to get
a and he's like, I'd like to get this taken
out and I sent him a picture. He started laughing.
He said, what are you in? Like an old motel?
And I go, no, that this is what it is.
He goes, hey, it was six thirty on a Friday.
(26:51):
He goes, I still got a guy. Let me call
and see because he lives out in that area. He
came over like a half hour later and just redid
it all and it took us a little while to
figure it out. That's why this smart technology for me,
I'm still figuring out how to get it from seventy
to seventy one when it's when it's cold, so don't last.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So the blessing about the thermostats though, like you can
be gone on vacation and forget you didn't change your
thermostats setting, so you're wasting energy. Now you can go
in and change it while you're gone and readjust it
so that you're not wasting as much energy while you're gone.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well then, and talking about benefits, right, the convenience is one,
but energy savings is a second. Yep, for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, I do all the time RelA. I turn to
eat up as long before we get there. But I'm
trying to get use to the gauge because you've got
one of those gauges that you can't It looks blank, right,
and then if you walk in front of it gets
but you get it. Oh sure, I didn't realize. I
didn't realize that's much. There must be motion censored there.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
There is a sensor on a lot of them where
they just brighten back up. It's the elied, it's the
led screen that's there. It brings back up as you
walk by it or towards it, and then it dies
down after Yeah, and I was last than twenty seconds.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I thought there's something wrong with it. But it's supposed
to be that way.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's supposed to be that way, which is some of
the the devices and key components in in in with
smart is is smart switches and demers. Correct. I mean
that's kind of the first. That's that's really.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Basic, that is, and that's where like Lutron is the
king of smarts. If you're going to have a smart home,
whether you have a basic smart in the Cassada system
or you have a super crazy defensive smart, it's called homeworks.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Is the next one system. I have no idea. That's
why we have him there. He could do the rest
of the hour talk.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Isn't that real bug? That noise?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes? I thought that's what it was, but I'm pretty
sure that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I thought you were going to bring back the Cassada tapes,
you know, they had the ribbons on them.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I still have some in my car. Do you want
me to go go? Hey? The eight tracks? Really crafting? Boy?
I don't want to hear the whole age thing. Hey,
thermostats control panels, So that would be the next step
into this world, correct.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, the and the load centers, the smart load centers
and breakers that energy management like that is the next
that's really the next realm of where we're going.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Spencer's holding up the old a track from from this,
you know, from our studio, which is there's nothing smart
about this studio, by the way, other than Spencer and
Bingo and you.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I'm looking at the buttons on here that are lighting up.
I wouldn't have any idea how to make that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
W When I was in high school, this was the
station on my AM radio, my van. That was it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This was it. Yeah, yeah, w o ky for sure. Hey,
when when people say listen, I want to start to
ease into this right part of it, and are they
able to then just kind of like, okay, let's try
this that way. If we just do the switches and
the smart plugs and the thermostat before we start to
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in the whole house, people can can put their toe
in the water in this in this category, right.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
There's a time and a place though, if you're remodeling
or you already have your current place. That's where we
start small. We start low and slow, and we add
a thermostat, we add some lutron stuff where you can
have three wireless three way controlling in your house. That's
like the most basic, simple starting piece of the smart devices.
But then if you're doing new construction, we look at like,
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if you really want to get into it, go into
it all the way so that you can have a
smart brain around your house that controls your electrical circuit,
and then you start building off of that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hey, do you see manufacturers and you know people in
that industry, are they going into smart as well?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, So when you're looking at new development R and D,
they're constantly looking at different things, what to do, how
to do that. There's different light fixtures that have come out
with smart controls, but they wired differently than your normal switch.
So they've almost started going away way like it was
a one to two year push about four years ago
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where the light fixtures themselves had their own controls from
a residential standpoint. Now those have gone away almost completely.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So that why you can't ask why do you think
they went away?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Because they were dropping neutrals and stuff and it wasn't
if someone moved into the house that was new to
the house and they wanted to replace something. There may
not have been a wire that would have been there
just to do a normal switch because of how it
connected and how it wirelessly communicated, and so a lot
of those different things have gone away where you're still
using your primary normal devices, your levitin, hubble pass and
(31:39):
Seymour lutron devices, so they're wired the same way.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All the wires are.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
There and existing now when people move or change or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Wow. So what people thought was a really good idea
after a couple of years realized it probably for the
long term not a great idea, right.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
It was gonna save labor on the shore term, but
it was hard to just add into an existing place.
It was only really working for new construction. Like it
was just it was a good idea. But I mean
that's what we do in R and D is we
try different things and some work and some don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
When we talked about control panels, like I just talked about,
you know, wall touch screens and voice assistance with Alexa
and Google, they are you looking at panels at different
places in the house, or is one panel to be
able to control the whole house.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
So we're there's different things that I think, terminology wise,
that we have that we have to clear up. From
a panel standpoint, Are you just talking about like a
tablet or a screen where you're controlling different lights in audio?
Or are you talking about the panel that's in your
basement that controls your circuit breakers?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, all the above, I guess, right, So they're different panels,
so it would be different, right, Yeah, and yeah, very
interesting to me. The convenience makes a lot of sense.
And it's like we lived on the corner on eighty
eighth in Towns for years before I bought a snowblower.
Once I got a snowblower, I was never going back. Right,
this kind of stuff, I think once you kind of
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tip your toe in and you go, wow, this is
you know, it's convenient. I don't have to get up
from my charity to turn the lights on it and just
go on my phone and hit them. I think once
people start to get involved in it and get more
comfortable with it, then they start to do more and more.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I would think it's crazy how it grows. And the
AI that's out there now too, so you can have
self learning systems that learn the lights and what lights
should be on and off at the different times. So
that's something that's out there. It's not economical, but it's
out there right, and it's coming and it should start
to get better priced as it goes. But when you
(33:54):
mess and start doing with timers that are astrological timers
just for your outdoor lighting, it's such a cool security thing.
You realize that your light's changed. You could have your
coach lights go from coach to spot from a security
standpoint depending on the night in the day. So it's
wild what's out there when you're playing with it. There's
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also like the Halo Whiz is a color changing can light.
I know you had talked about that earlier, and so
they have a pre set setting and the switches where
if you just turn the switch on once, it's one
color and if you turn it off and turn it
right back on, it can come up as a different color.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, I thought there was a yeah, we got the
if you turn a real fast change.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I didn't even know it was a term for it.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Al I thought. I just thought the something wrong. I
why if you clip the switch back and forth it changes.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So it's dual switching is the setup and how it's called,
and you.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Can program it makes it real bright blue. And I
don't like that big bright blue. I like that the
yellower light. So I go like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I do too. I I kind of like that dim
kind of yellow, kind of the warm color toime.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, I don't want the blue. So that's what and
that's why it comes on.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
There, okay, and the real bright one that where it
looks like I'm in a doctor's office. Not great for me,
not great. You know, I need to have it dim
down just just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes, I did. I ask Current, I want you to make this.
I wanted you to get you light at my office
so I can do operations.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They went, oh yeah, they lit up for me.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
It's right, it's really good. But you got to where
sunglasses if you want to be there long.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Hey, the color changing can lights? Is that relatively new
because it's the first I've heard of that.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
It is pretty new probably the last twelve to eighteen months.
They've really been coming on. They have color changing floods
and all sorts of different lights now in that system.
It came from lamps, so Phillips is the was probably
the first creator of it, and it was all controlled
(35:47):
on the app. And now Phillips owns Halo Cooper as well,
and so they've pretty much put it all into the
same platform and the Halo Whiz and it's really really cool.
If you have soppit can lights, you can put these
trims in there and then you can alternate so like
on Brewer Game Day, it can be blue, yellow, it
can be yellow people Christmas time, it can be your
(36:08):
permanent ye.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
People the lights decorated.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, people have houses now you drive past them, there's
different card of lights on them all year ound that's yeah,
they're permanent then.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Right, yep.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So our outdoor patio we did that this almost a
year ago now, and I put in these color changing
lights there just to play with and I wanted to
see how they work. And we can alternate them so
that there don't hold this against me, but I'm in
front of Saint Louis, so they're red a lot of
times in summer.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, but yeah, he's a cardinal fan. We're kicking them out. Man,
you didn't tell me that. He didn't tell Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That before he came in. Apparently Sam ding the screening properly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, we got we gotta do. We gotta vet him
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I did hear the last one. Though Parker played ball
in Saint Louis, so it wasn't too bad from the
Sherwin Williams guy.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, he was a billickin, but he's still a cheesehead.
When when the Cardinals play the Birds, who are you're
rooting for? That's my birds? Anyway, there you go. That's
why I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's mad because remember in eighty two they're in a series.
You know, we got to go watch them lose. The
Cardinals so unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Hey, Mike, when we get to a break, we're gonna
get to a break. Other side of the break, we're
gonna talk a little bit. I want to get back
into the safety issue of of what you guys do,
because I think it's so important now as far as
motion right, we we can we can make sure that
that the backyard is lit, make sure the garage is
(37:36):
lit if somebody's walking past it. And we'll talk a
little bit about that. We'll talk a little bit more
about what Warner does. Not only in the state of Wisconsin.
You get euro up and up as well, will continue
our conversation. It used to be Werner Electric Supplies. Now
just Warner and Mike.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
My way is gonna They're gonna We're gonna cruise ships.
Well you can do in.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
That cruise ship. You know, if if i'm if I'm
hr over at Warner, I'm checking his uh, I'm checking
all of his expenses here in the next six months
and is not going to happen. I'm telling you he's
gonna get in trouble. Go to one Warner dot com,
one Warner dot com. If you're a contractor that has
not met Mike, you know, give him a call and
(38:18):
let him tell you a little bit about what Warner
can supply. And on their website, you know, there's a
lot of things that that that they offer to guys
like you, to people like Current Electric with after hour
service and their resources and everything that they offer. It's
a company that is a family owned, family owned, family owned.
Who's the own who's the president right now?
Speaker 4 (38:40):
The president is Craig Weedemeier. He is not a part
of the family. The next generation is our distribution product manager.
That's Dane McDonald excellent, but Terry McDonald, Lynn McDonald and
Linda Lee McDonald are all on the board right now.
And the McDonald family is the owners.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's awesome. Yeah, good Irish kid's right. Yeah, yeah, there
there you go. I bet they're all Brewer fans too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Can you give him a good deal on green lights?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah? I need green lights? Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Whole liars don't like colors green.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah. And my again, my wife wouldn't mind the red
because of that whole Paplinsky thing. Where do you get
to a break other side of break? Mike is the
residential construction sales manager again at Warner. Go to one
Warner dot com get more information on him. What's what's
funny is? I said, Hey, what direction do you want
to take this? He said, anything in my industry? You
can ask me, because you know what, if I don't
(39:34):
know the answer, I'll find out. And he's a guy
that does a lot of education in this industry and
he's awfully good. When you get to a break other
side of break, will continue our conversation with Mike. This
is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox
Sports ninety twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back
to the Creative Construction, Wisconsin Home improvement show on Fox
(39:56):
Sports nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app coming live
from the don in Jorgans and Heating and Cooling Studios.
Mike Trowsky. He is the residential construction sales manager for Warner.
It was Warner Electric Supplies now just Warner go to
one Warner dot com. Hey, when when people at USB outlets.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
It's one of my favorite things to talk about.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Man, Well, let's tee it up. Man. Let if we
talk a little bit about the the how big that's
gotten now? Right, and and and how to select the
correct USB outlet for your house. What do you tell people?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So there's the USB A, which is the little square
type of thing that most people are familiar with when
you talk to USB. Then there's the USB C, which
all new phones have now, so it's a n C.
I still recommend getting a combo version where you have
one of each because there's still a lot of things
that still run off that USBA device, but eventually that
(40:59):
will be going away. The other thing that you need
to talk about is power house.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
People that have the old ones, what happens?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Got to go get a new one.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's you're gonna end up being uh moved to new.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I got a whole bunch of chargers. There's a one
that was gonna between the angles on it. Yes, yes,
all those kind of charges.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, I don't even know away. I've got so many
in my deaths rot, I don't even know what they're
for anymore, And I just keep trying. Does that fit there?
Does that? When people talk to you about the outlets,
a single port, dual port for power port, there's a
lot of different selections for that.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So it's about what are you gonna do it with?
What are you gonna do with it? Is it gonna
be something where it's at a drop zone where your
kids are plugging their phones in, you're plugging your phone in,
your spouse is plugging the phone in, you're plugging tablets in.
That's where I also said power. There's now USB devices
that have fifty loats of power. It's a true power
device or block. So instead of having that computer plug
(41:58):
that has that box transformer, you can now just take
a USB cable and plug it right into the wall
and then right into your computer and it has that
enough power to power your computer.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
We got to get some.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Of those well, I'm just I'm just thinking about the
drop spots. I just think, okay, you mean that pile
of mes always got something charge.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
That is exactly that pile of mess. They could be
a kitchen island, it could be every modroom.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
You can't go past it without court hanging, and someone
that's plugged.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
In drives me, drives my wife crazy. By the way, location.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Selections we called the drop zone or something.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, it's just you come into my office and behind
my desk. There's wires everywhere, but the location selections for
USB outlets, betide tables, right entry away, councils, home office desk,
kitchen counters, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Pretty much everywhere next to the room, next to the couch.
Right there's a lot of people that have like a
makeup station in their bathroom, so they might have a
USB outlet there. There's razors that are charged now over USB.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I thought that was just a mess on the corner.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's not your makeup is because we do radio and
you look good every week. I'm trying to figure out
how that works.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
He's getting ready for the streaming when we Yeah, let
us go to the streaming one.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
We're going to talk to Spencer's gonna look into that
and if he has any questions about it, he can
you know, we can we can talk about that. Yeah, Yeah,
give Mike a call Spencer, because you're gonna he can.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
He can do your your plugging station and your makeup
station for you.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Is there is there a way to get a USB
outlet so when we do this that he can make
me look thin and good looking or we're.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Not going to stream.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
They haven't done that yet, have that? They have that?
Thank goodness, because people would have to look at that sweat.
That the ugly sweater you've got.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
You keep mentioning it, but it is a griswold sweater.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
For all those it is. I've got to believe your
wife just shakes her head and so all the time. Yeah,
it has to. Hey, the maintenance and safety for a
USB outlet? Is there much in that? Do you have
to worry about any of the maintenance or the safety
of having a USB outlet?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Maintenance wise? I don't know that they've really been out
long enough to worry about it. It's just like your
normal receptacle. From a safety standpoint, they don't have not
all of them have shutters on them. Some of them do,
but you do have to worry about sticking things in
just like a regular outlet. I mean there's power there,
so you don't want to stick a paper clip into
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it or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, Bengo, I told you shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I just like, well, you should be used like windox and.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I have to clean it. Hey, do you recommend people
use search protectors or safeguard?
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Absolutely, and so that too. There's also surge devices. So
if we're using that fifty AM or fifty watt power
device USB, we can have your electrician wire that up
behind a surge device so that it's protected internally as well,
so that you don't have to worry about actual power
strips or external surge protectors.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Hey, with the Christmas the Griswold Smith sweater, you have
on overloading outlets by plugging too many high powered or
Christmas lights in. I would assume that when you drive
through the neighborhood and you see people that are lighting
it up like crazy, you get a little bit worried
what they're plugging all that into.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Right, it is you never know what could create a
spark or cause something that can cause an issue, Like
when you look at in Griswold's all of the different
plugs that they have piggybacked onto each other, and how
they're barely hanging. Half of them are out of the receptacle,
like it is a mess waiting and it's like.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Hand staple, a metal staple.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And everywhere, you know what wires are getting cross somewhere
somewhere for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hey, Mike, thank you for your time. This is really
interesting for me. And there's about fifteen more directions we
could have gone with this, and the fact that you're like, look,
just you throw it my way. I'll be okay, I'll
be okay. I appreciate that. Say hi to Christy for me.
Let her know when you guys go hunting and she
needs company, I'm with her. I'm not with you, guys,
(46:01):
Riley and Ethan say hi to them for me. Merry Christmas, Junior.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Merry Christmas to you guys as well.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
They go you as well. Do not spoil Shelby. It's
too late. That's the first time you've not had any.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Answer for Yeah, that ship has sailed.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, yeah, well deb okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't want a grandma on that Oh yeah, yeah,
she don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Merry Christmas to you and you and your family. Guys,
thanks for coming in. We're going to get your break.
Other side of the break, we'll get to the varsity
Blitz high school uh basketball. We're talking a lot of
w By shootout on the other side. This is the
creative construction of Wisconsin Homie Prouvema Show on Fox Sports
nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app
But welcome to the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show
on Fox Sports Night twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming
live from the Donovan and Jorgensen Heating and Cooling Studios.
I'm Mike McGarry alongside my co host. He's the owner
of Creative Construction Wisconsin Bingo Emin's Bingo.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Merry Christmas, Yeah, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
You know we're excited. We're excited because you know, Shelby
is like, you know, three plus couple of months. Yeah,
we're yeah, we're good. We're gonna do the whole. You're
not gonna spoil her, right, No, she's way past being spoiled,
like Sam always complains all the time.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You know, you can say no to right, no, no
way no.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I said no to my kids enough. I don't need
to say no to my grandkids.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It sounds like you know, I think you know, I swear,
I think you like your granddaugh would have been your own kids.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Oh that's a fact.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Fact.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
And then I get to send them home, send them
with you guys.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
For sure, I guessnot's gone on them.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
We're done, Yeah, we're done.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
You can take them here, get them all recharge get
them all refreshing. I'll take her, I'll take her back.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We're kind of like the same grandfather. I'm telling you, hey,
before we get into our show, I've got to thank
somebody I met. I met somebody a new company that
I didn't had not done business with, but they did
a really good job. And I want to thank Darlene
and the people at Donovan Mirror and Glass. So I
had called Zach and the mirror in my wife's bathroom cracked.
(01:20):
And when we bought this condo and the people that
flipped it, some of the stuff they did really good
and high quality stuff, and then a couple of things
they kind of got a little cheap on. And one
was this mirror and it cracked on the bottom. And
the same day that crack moved all the way to
the top.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Was under warranty or nothing.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
No no, no, no no. And I called Zach and
I said, hey, I'm thinking about yeah, and again another
mirror that I'm trying to figure out. And he said, hey,
you know, let me know and we'll figure it out.
And you guys are so busy. And I called the
people at Donovan Mirror and Glass and talked to Darlene
a lot, and they came, they sent you guys out.
(02:01):
Other than one of their guys being a beer fan,
they did a great job and I was so.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Well, you were sitting the truck, but the rest of
you guys are worth No.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
He was really good. So I'm like, all right, I'll
look past the whole Bear Packer thing, but I just
want to thank those guys, and they did a really
good job. There's a couple of options for us, and
the fact that they were able to get us in
and get this thing done before Christmas. I just really
appreciate them and Darlene over at Donovan mirror Glass and
(02:32):
their whole team did a really good job.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
I just want to think that, well you play a
wait to tell him that do you know what my
brother is? Did you do that?
Speaker 4 (02:38):
No?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I did not. We talked sports, so they maybe didn't
know my brother if we were talking theater and maybe
I had brought that up, but no, Donovan mirror Glass.
I just want to thank those guys a lot. Hey,
before we get to our special guest, tough week in
the sport that you absolutely love and had a plane
crash and one of the really good guys.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
It's always a nice guys. He's one of those guys
that you know him and Garrett, you know, known as
Gleaves Bag Farland, those guys. You know, they did a
lot of work rescue working that with their own personal helicopters,
their own personal money, did a lot of rescue work
for the hurricane in North Carolina, did a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
And he's one of those guys that just do charities
and do stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
And you know, and I'm getting stories about you know,
she's just sent out, you know, because she does that
secret Sando stuff. So she she wrote seven, like seventeen
letters just before she left and had to have her
mom mail real quick because we're leaving for this trip
that she's going. Oh man, yeah, I mean she's what
the That's just one of those families that just give, give,
give back all the time.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And it's you know, it's always the good ones.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah. Well, Bingo, you you understand that servant leadership Hart,
And it's not something we're born with, it's something it's
a learned behavior. And I've read a lot about him
and his family and how much he gave back and
how much he tried to help people.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
And you're right, Yeah, but I've seen you know, when
you see him at the track, he's just nice, just
a nice person, glad to see you.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
You know, he tries to remember your name, is a
really nice guy.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Yeah, well I did, Greg Biffel, right, yeah. Yeah. The
family and a couple other people passed in in a
in a h An airplane crash. They went up and
and you listened and they said, hey, I'm stalling.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
And I guess yes, I've engined. Yeah, something was going wrong,
start coming back and yeah on the last transmission is
you know the stalling?
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Oh boy was it? Man? Oh man? So rough. We're
gonna be a rough Christmas for the people left in
that family for sure. Hey, our special guest and other
than we're in one of the ugliest Christmas sweaters.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
But that's just as soon as our live streaming, you're going, yeah,
you want to bring them, Well, we're going to look
into that in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
We'll have Spencer figure that part out for us. Our
special guest, residential construction sales manager for Warner not Warner
Electric Supply anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That's that's new.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
That's new.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
That just brings news, right, it is pretty breaking. It's
the start at Q four. We we rebranded to just Werner,
so it's one Werner dot com.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Hey, it's nice to meet you very well. Thank you you.
Grafton Boys stay champion. If we can talk high school
football if you want. His coach Norris did a nice
job bringing the bringing the gold ball back to Grafton.
How long have you been with Warner.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I've been with Werner for it'll be eleven years in February.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Hey, and and talk to me about electrical electric Supply
is what the name of the company was for a
long time. What you guys don't do the electrical work,
but you supply the the the stuff that that people
like Colonel Electric would use. And I know you guys
do a lot of work with with Chuck Smith. And
(05:42):
the first thing you said to me was we do
a lot. I'd like to do more with them. Were like,
you know what, I'll help you with that. Chuck Smith's
one of the real good guys in this world. I'm
just a huge fan of he has been been doing
the mcgiverern Agency has worked with them for a long time.
And I've worked with with Chuck and the and the
Superhero is that current Electric a lot, and maybe we'll
set up a lunch and the three of us will
(06:03):
go out and just kind of chat for a while.
That'd be perfect. Talk to me a little bit about
kind of the mission statement behind Werner and what you
guys do. You have. Your main office is an Apple Tint.
You also have an office in Pewaukee, which is my hometown. Correct. Now,
I've been there three years and I drive one's sixty
four and I see you're building quite a bit. You
(06:25):
personally are between the offices, correct.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
Yeah, So at Werner we've been around for over seventy
seven years. We've been doing industrial automation, commercial construction. We
really got into the residential game in January of twenty
two and that I took over that division and so
I run residential construction sales across the state. We have
eleven branches that are true full like counter branches where
(06:51):
people can come in get stuff from the counter. We
also have a twelfth office. It's a wire fulfillment center.
It's right off of Mount Pleasant, right there by where
the Microsoft Data Center is.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
So people like me, like just a consumer, can't walk
in and buy stuff.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
You can our normal We'll say customer is going to
be the tradesman. It's going to be the maintenance person.
Like we generally don't deal with the end user, okay,
or the normal just homeowner. So we have a lot
of homeowners that come into our counter.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
But he sells the people that they specifically know what
they want. They're buying equality to buying aparts from him
that they need.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, so that people in the trades, so people.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Like Kurnel Electric and people who they compete with would
be somebody that So your day to day operations, you personally,
are you talking to people like Chuck Smith at Kernel Electrics.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
I'm dealing with electricians, I'm dealing with architects, designers, builders,
all of the above, project managers. But it's all in
the construction trade.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
When you see a subdivision get built up, there's long
about utilities. He can tell you about the shortages or
what what you can get, what you can't get. I mean,
you know, I'm on a community with them that you
run with utilities. That's a whole different part of construction
that most people don't even know about.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Hey, and before we get more into what Warner does
you personally when we talk about this this race car
driver that he cared more about giving back to the community. Look,
I'm looking at your bio and the state you're on
about every other board, right, you're on board.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You do a fair amount.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
The idea of giving back and being able to network
and help people is something that obviously important to you.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
It's huge, huge for me. When I was growing up
in sales back in the early two thousands, I had
the privilege to hear zig Ziggler speak. She's one of
the things that he always used to say is if
you help enough people get what they want in life,
you'll have everything you ever need. I'm a big fan
of that. That's how I live my life. It's what
I teach my kids. That's what we do.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
Yeah, you married, how many kids?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Married to kids?
Speaker 1 (08:58):
What's your wife's name?
Speaker 4 (08:59):
Christy?
Speaker 1 (09:00):
And your kids' names?
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Riley and Ethan?
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And how old?
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Fifteen and fourteen? Riley's fifteen she's a sophomore at Grafton
and Ethan's fourteen a freshman.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Sports kids.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Riley does taekwondo and shoots trap Okay, oh okay, it's
pretty awesome. And then Ethan is put him in front
of anything, He'll do it. Soccer swimming, baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
So do you know from nine to eleven every Saturday
after this show, I do a high school sports show
for two hours and in the summertime we'll do baseball
or softball one week and then talk about sports that
nobody else talks about. And we did trap I had
no idea how big that was in the state of
Wisconsin at the high school level, had no idea. And
(09:42):
when they came in and they start talking about the
numbers and how many kids are involved in it and
going up to two of the scot Krapas, Yeah, Nakusha,
what a big deal. That is good.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
It's pretty crazy. Yeah, we did not have this opportunity
when I went to high school at Grafton. The fact
that they have it now and they started in middle school.
So she's been shooting since seventh grade. And it's awesome.
You learn to a pheasant hunter and everything. Now it's great.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
You what a great are you into that you hunt? So?
What a what a cool? But father daughter bonding.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Time it's awesome and it's really fun because I'm able
to take all of the kids. So it's me, Riley
and Ethan go out hunting and my wife gets her
day to not have to worry about anything.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
She doesn't come out with you. No, and her name
is Christy. Christie, I'd hang out with you. I'd hang
out you and I we we could just kind of
hang out.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
And Deb's in the same boat because like hunting fish
or whatever, we cannot bring those animals into our halls. No,
she can buy a fish from a store all day long,
but right she sees eye on it.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
That's not come into the house. Well, Christie, I would hang.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Out yell that plenty of times because I use our
kitchen sink to the birds.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
Yeah, I would hurt Christie, and I would go to
a movie while you were doing that. I'm with I'm
with her for sure. Hey, since nineteen forty eight, Warner's
been around, and you know I on your website. What
I like is that first line just to provide customers
quality electrical products and services. Right throughout the years, Werner,
(11:15):
you know you've worked to meet challenging customer needs. And
that's kind of you. You're putting puzzles together on a
daily basis. If I went back to you as a
senior at crafton years ago and said, hey, you know
how many years from now we're going to be able
to radio show and for an hour you're going to
talk about electrical supplies. What would you have said to me?
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I would have said you were nuts. I mean, I
would have probably said something else, but I was told
I couldn't use those words.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Yeah you're not using here. You know what Spencer's good,
but he's not that good.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
So I grew up in a family that sold medical products,
so I was doing medical sales in high school at
that time. So I would have told you I would
have been a salesperson, but I would have never thought
I would have found my way into the trades and
in construction and electrical and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
How did that happen? Because you had owned your own
company for a while yep, and decided not to make
a make a career move, and how did that happen?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
So there's a long story there, but the short version
is I ended up merging a business with my parents,
and I realized that it wasn't good for us as
we were developing a family with Christy, and we got
pregnant and all of that, and work was work, and
it was becoming more and more work, and it was
tied with my family and we couldn't separate the two.
So we decided. I decided to just walk away from
(12:30):
that business and look for something new. I found Werner
because it's a privately owned, family owned, Wisconsin owned company,
and they seemed to treat when I was looking. They
treated their employees right, they treated their customers.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
Right, perfect, and your parents are right.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
Everything they're they're doing good. There's still you're going to do.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Take it out Christmas wise, everything.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Will be there Christmas eve good, good good. Our relationship
got better when I left the business.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
You know. It's almost like coaching, right. I coached my
son and uh in basketball, and that sophomore year that
I coached him was not great. But I was the
adult in the room and I had to make some changes.
And I'm glad that you saw that. And that was it.
It's been a really good move for you.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, it's been phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Good for you.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Hey, when when people talk about the families, because family,
I've been through all this stuff, but we've been through it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
I was like, yeah, I was never gonna work for
my dad.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There was no way, right, you know, and then he's
can help me for a couple of weeks in eighty
six and here I am here and then you know,
same thing. My son, my daughter never had no way.
Katie always said she was good and she's the only
one that's not working Sam, Sam and Zach. I mean
they run the company, now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
And you guys can separate them. Look, I know Zach
has got a lot of interest outside of work. Sam
obviously has a ton of interest with horses and with
Shelby and taking care of Aaron. But look, you guys
are able to separate work from from home life.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Right, Yeah, we do that.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
We do that too, but it isn't I but we
just talk about right, And it's like, you know, we're
talking about that because you know, we got a short
week coming up, and you know, not everybody wants torect
Oor house duties for Christmas some stuff around, right, And
I said, well, we're going to a Christmas party on
Saturday night, Aaron, I'll talk about come up plan on
Saturday night, you know. And they say, you know, you
say we can't talk business. We don't spend a lot
of Time's not. That's all we do is talk business, right, right.
(14:20):
It's you know, it's like it's like the mafia. You
don't talk.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
About it.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
That you talk about yourselves. We don't sit there in
front of a whole bunch of people. Hey, what job
are you doing next week?
Speaker 1 (14:29):
But don't ever go against the family. Don't go against
the family.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Careful and you get kissed on the forehead and that family.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
Oh yeah, and hey, just get in the back seat
over there in the creative Constructions truck. I'm not good.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
I wonder what happened if Debbi kissed you for it?
Speaker 1 (14:45):
She would come in the studio and do it, then
we can talk about it. But she's not doing that. Hey, Mike,
when you started with Warner did you start on the
ground floor? How did how did that work? And how
have you progressed throughout the eleven years?
Speaker 4 (14:58):
So I came in as new business to in sales.
When they hired me, I had only ever known medical
sales and with the family business that I grew up in.
And so I came over and they're like, you gotta
do two million and two years. I go, is that normal?
Is that new? Is that what normal people can do?
And they're like, oh, yeah, that's that's pretty normal. I
(15:18):
was like I So I found out I was the
first guy in maybe five or six years who was
given an account package of zero. But I did one
point nine to eight in two years, so they kept me.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
You didn't hit that budget.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
I didn't, but I was. I was pretty darn close.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
So not a close is not I would have fired you.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
Yeah, I just came.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
It's a thing I might have too, I'm just kidding. Good,
good for you. And then as you moved, obviously you
now you travel quite but you told me how many
miles you put on that.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
We did just about forty eight thousand miles this year,
So lot did you drive it?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah? What's your territory then?
Speaker 4 (15:54):
So we cover all of Wisconsin and then up into
the up Our offices are Iron Mountain, Stevens Point, Wassaw,
Green Bay, Appleton, Fond of lac Kenosha, Madison, Janesville, Wow, Pewaukee.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
Well, you know, I just saw some You can actually
take a cruise ship down from Milwaukee from Michigan.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Oh yeah, so you could? You know they can save
on your.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Miles on truck.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
I might have to look at that.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Well, you know what, I and I took the one
the lake expressed a couple of times over in Missipis
I know.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
But there's actually a cruise ship. I saw it on
like Facebook. It goes all around all this lake and
it goes through it upper Lake.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
There you go. You don't have to put all those miles.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
How many ports do biking one on biking cruise.
Speaker 1 (16:35):
So there you go, bring your bike and and and
get going for that.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
As I'm saying, so you can you can take that
and you can deduct it because you say miles on
your truck.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
You know what, if they're listening and they're gonna get
they're gonna be going, Hey, that's not a bad idea.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
I think if I had an expense for a cruise
in Lake Michigan, I might get questions.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
You might get questioned, especially if if your wife and
two kids are with you. For sure, Hey, in your industry,
there's been so many changes in the eleven years. So
you've got to the educational side of what you do.
You've got to be on tap of all this because look,
the trends and smart and people are able to do
(17:16):
a lot of things right now. You know, when you're
my age, you just want to turn the light on
the way we've always done it. Other people are like, look,
I'm five minutes from home. I'm going to utilize my
app and my phone to turn the lights on, turn
the music on, get the fireplate, all of that. And
we're going to get into that in the second segment
because I have some questions with that, but you've got
(17:36):
to be on TAPA all that.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
So we are constantly looking learning, going to manufacturers. I
go to the International Builders Show to see what's new,
what's coming, what's on the coasts, and what to bring
back to the Midwest because we are generally about five
to ten years behind usually on trends. And that's okay.
That is totally okay because a lot of the stuff
(18:00):
starts and fails and then doesn't go anywhere, so we
don't have to worry about those little hiccups.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Yeah. Well, and and the fact that that shake carpeting
is now just not a thing anymore around here. I
understand that whole disco is coming back from from what
I hear. Hey, when when you get a chance, chew.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
I was just gonna, you know, interrupt you about education.
You know, He's part of education is constant. I mean,
and now people don't realize that. So I'm certified in
that if you're certified on two years. So much has
changed in the last two years, especially electrical. I mean
they're changing. You can buy something. It's like if you
buy a computer now from you know the name of
box store, right when you go home, it's probably outdated already, right,
(18:39):
I mean there's there's new versions, better version that yours
is obsolete. You know, you weren't whatever, And just saying that, yes,
the electrical world to stay on top of it.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
It's got to. I mean, things are changing so fast.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean it's got to be a full time job
just trying to pay attention to what what new products
are coming out today.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Well, we had we had Wade from Current Electric out
and you put a new ceiling fan in my office
because the other one was And it was there for
a week and it was fine, and all of a
sudden stopped working. So he came out and took it apart,
and the wire he just had a duct tape the
wire together so it would stay. And he was like,
(19:16):
you know, I was going to just take it down
and have you bring it back, but let me take
a look at it. And so he him and his
guy were playing with it, and he said, look, when
I move it just a little, it goes back on.
So let me just tape this and do that. And
I think you should probably consider this. And I go
get out of my house because anytime look they you know,
we have a couple outlets have with grandkids. We should
(19:37):
probably get updated. But and they look around, right, they
these guys are smart enough, and when they have ideas,
they're like, hey, is Terry available. I'm like, no, she's not,
she's working. Go just go and Wade just laughs and yeah,
it's it's really good. Him and Hunter hunters a hunter. Yeah,
he's a big, big, big driver and.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
We're just he slinger. He raises that slinger.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, so he's a current electric guys. Well, hey, Mike,
we're going to get to a break. Other side of
the break, I've got some questions for you with with
color changing canlights. Smart control is where we're going to start,
because I've got a couple of text messages with people saying, hey,
could you ask him about this? So our special guest
for the entire hour, residential construction sales manager at Warner
(20:25):
correct I crossed off electric supply at Warner They've got
locations all over the state of Wisconsin. Mike is in
Pewaukee and Appleton, but pretty much every office I go,
everywhere he goes all over. It's Mike Turkowski Tarowski, Tarowski.
I was close. Mike Tarowski is our special guest again.
Residential construction sales manager at Warner. Go to one Warner
(20:48):
dot com, the number one, the word one one Warner
dot com for any information that you need on this company.
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(21:09):
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alongside my co host, the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin,
(21:30):
Bingo Emmons, and our special guest. Now I'm not gonna
get his last name.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
It's Mikeowski.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
That's nice and easy. It's a nice Polish name right there.
Married My wife's maid name is Paplinski, so I get that. Sure, yeah,
that whole Why did Polish people have ski at the
end of their name because they can't spell toboggan. He goes,
that's not funny. Quit saying that joke. Here's the resident
Mike mcgart heymad because they can't spell toboggan. It's very
(21:58):
funny to be he's the resident construction sales manager.
Speaker 3 (22:02):
Also a public service announcement about about the mirror incident.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Mike did not get cut this time.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
No, And guess what. I did not get cut because
I brought in the experts for that. And you know,
Dev because she's very funny, said don't touch.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
Them well, because you know, you have a reputation every
time you work on the mirror. It's not somebody got big.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Glasses and gloves, and Zach makes fun of me and
and but I tried. I looked at it, but I thought,
now I'm just going to get another Donovan mirror, and
Glass came in to help me. So I appreciate that. Hey, Mike,
a lot of changes. Obviously, it's always stuff in your business.
There's always stuff going on. But people that are totally
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involved with smart control and they they love to be
able to utilize that. Can we talk a little bit
about key components and devices when it comes to that,
smart switches and dimmers and smart plugs. I just smart thermostats.
I don't understand a lot of that, but everybody can.
Man you can pretty much control your house from your phone. Nowadays.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
You can control your house from your phone and it
can start everywhere from your load center in true energy management,
so where your circuit breakers are and everything in the house.
You can get a smart load center nowadays where you
can manage every single circuit that's in your house. See
what amps are being drawn up to doing your switches
and dimmers. Like our coach lights at our house are
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run on a lutron system. Of course they are, so
the coach lights come on.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Is right.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
System on your coach lighthouse?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
No, No, I barely have a I got a dimmer house,
so excited. I'm not kidding My wife and I think
way to the people like Curl Electric. They put dimmer
switches for our kitchen and we just keep messing around
with it.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
In a given family, you know, Mike's got older and
people think in a given family, he was the guy
that had to go around light the light the candles
on the street.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yes, ouch, that hurts all right. Now we're even on
that whole always joke, that Toboggan joke. But I can
tell you that it makes a world of difference if
we're cooking or if we have you know, we put
on a little berry white and we're slow dance and
you want that mood light. Sure, And I can tell
you that something as simple as that makes a huge difference.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
Now you can even just say, hey, Alexa, turn down
my lights or change the setting to this, or if
you have the right system set up, you can use
your Alexa and Google Play and Apple Play.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
It's I'm still having trouble used to it because I go
to people's customers house and they'll say, you know what
great Google or hey Android or hey something Alexa. They'll
say something, yeah, turn the lights on, turn this on
that you know, and there's no switches.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I know how you do it. It's too much for me.
I've got to be My kids are all into that,
and we're just like, no, we know where the light switches.
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
I'm getting used to because I like it because you know,
I get a delivery at the shop, right, they push
a button and rings on my phone. I can open
the garage door, reset the alarm when they leave. You know,
just things you can do. And I I mean all
the gravestors are all on my phone home, every single
one of them.
Speaker 1 (25:03):
Well, and there the cameras on the door, right. I mean,
we just saw that workout right at Brown University where
they went to the neighbors and said, we need to
we need all the footage that we can get. When
when somebody asks you the benefits of smart technology in
your industry, what do you tell them?
Speaker 4 (25:24):
So besides security and control, it's also knowledge and it
could be preventative maintenance too, depending on what you're doing.
Like when I talked about that energy management system. We're
in a land of some pumps and generators in Wisconsin.
And if you have an energy management system and your
some pump normally draws eight amps and now it's drawn
eleven amps, you're able to monitor that and see that,
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and it's like, maybe I should be replacing my some
pump instead of having a some pump failure and a
flood in the basement.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, then you would have to teach your customers what
do you even look for? But because of you told
Mike a watch your ambridge, He's like, many, excuse.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Me, what are you talking about?
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Are we playing the guitar or what? Half am I watching?
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Yeah? I look. When we moved into this, this new
condo in Pewaukee, and again they a lot of the
stuff they did was really good, and some stuff they
went cheap on our thermosteat was like one of the
old ones with the dial sure, and it was a
When we moved in November three years ago, it was
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a rainstorm and we were moving stuff in and I
called the president over at Donovan Jorians and Scott Fisher
and I said, hey, next week, I'd like to get
a and he's like, I'd like to get this taken
out and I sent him a picture. He started laughing.
He said, what are you in? Like an old motel?
And I go, no, that this is what it is.
He goes, hey, it was six thirty on a Friday.
(26:51):
He goes, I still got a guy. Let me call
and see because he lives out in that area. He
came over like a half hour later and just redid
it all and it took us a little while to
figure it out. That's why this smart technology for me,
I'm still figuring out how to get it from seventy
to seventy one when it's when it's cold, so don't last.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
So the blessing about the thermostats though, like you can
be gone on vacation and forget you didn't change your
thermostats setting, so you're wasting energy. Now you can go
in and change it while you're gone and readjust it
so that you're not wasting as much energy while you're gone.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well then, and talking about benefits, right, the convenience is one,
but energy savings is a second. Yep, for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, I do all the time RelA. I turn to
eat up as long before we get there. But I'm
trying to get use to the gauge because you've got
one of those gauges that you can't It looks blank, right,
and then if you walk in front of it gets
but you get it. Oh sure, I didn't realize. I
didn't realize that's much. There must be motion censored there.
Speaker 4 (27:47):
There is a sensor on a lot of them where
they just brighten back up. It's the elied, it's the
led screen that's there. It brings back up as you
walk by it or towards it, and then it dies
down after Yeah, and I was last than twenty seconds.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I thought there's something wrong with it. But it's supposed
to be that way.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It's supposed to be that way, which is some of
the the devices and key components in in in with
smart is is smart switches and demers. Correct. I mean
that's kind of the first. That's that's really.
Speaker 4 (28:16):
Basic, that is, and that's where like Lutron is the
king of smarts. If you're going to have a smart home,
whether you have a basic smart in the Cassada system
or you have a super crazy defensive smart, it's called homeworks.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Is the next one system. I have no idea. That's
why we have him there. He could do the rest
of the hour talk.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Isn't that real bug? That noise?
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Yes? I thought that's what it was, but I'm pretty
sure that's what he's talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
I thought you were going to bring back the Cassada tapes,
you know, they had the ribbons on them.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
I still have some in my car. Do you want
me to go go? Hey? The eight tracks? Really crafting? Boy?
I don't want to hear the whole age thing. Hey,
thermostats control panels, So that would be the next step
into this world, correct.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
Yeah, the and the load centers, the smart load centers
and breakers that energy management like that is the next
that's really the next realm of where we're going.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Spencer's holding up the old a track from from this,
you know, from our studio, which is there's nothing smart
about this studio, by the way, other than Spencer and
Bingo and you.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
I'm looking at the buttons on here that are lighting up.
I wouldn't have any idea how to make that.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
W When I was in high school, this was the
station on my AM radio, my van. That was it.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
This was it. Yeah, yeah, w o ky for sure. Hey,
when when people say listen, I want to start to
ease into this right part of it, and are they
able to then just kind of like, okay, let's try
this that way. If we just do the switches and
the smart plugs and the thermostat before we start to
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in the whole house, people can can put their toe
in the water in this in this category, right.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
There's a time and a place though, if you're remodeling
or you already have your current place. That's where we
start small. We start low and slow, and we add
a thermostat, we add some lutron stuff where you can
have three wireless three way controlling in your house. That's
like the most basic, simple starting piece of the smart devices.
But then if you're doing new construction, we look at like,
(30:23):
if you really want to get into it, go into
it all the way so that you can have a
smart brain around your house that controls your electrical circuit,
and then you start building off of that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Hey, do you see manufacturers and you know people in
that industry, are they going into smart as well?
Speaker 4 (30:42):
Yeah, So when you're looking at new development R and D,
they're constantly looking at different things, what to do, how
to do that. There's different light fixtures that have come out
with smart controls, but they wired differently than your normal switch.
So they've almost started going away way like it was
a one to two year push about four years ago
(31:03):
where the light fixtures themselves had their own controls from
a residential standpoint. Now those have gone away almost completely.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
So that why you can't ask why do you think
they went away?
Speaker 4 (31:14):
Because they were dropping neutrals and stuff and it wasn't
if someone moved into the house that was new to
the house and they wanted to replace something. There may
not have been a wire that would have been there
just to do a normal switch because of how it
connected and how it wirelessly communicated, and so a lot
of those different things have gone away where you're still
using your primary normal devices, your levitin, hubble pass and
(31:39):
Seymour lutron devices, so they're wired the same way.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
All the wires are.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
There and existing now when people move or change or whatever.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Wow. So what people thought was a really good idea
after a couple of years realized it probably for the
long term not a great idea, right.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
It was gonna save labor on the shore term, but
it was hard to just add into an existing place.
It was only really working for new construction. Like it
was just it was a good idea. But I mean
that's what we do in R and D is we
try different things and some work and some don't.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
When we talked about control panels, like I just talked about,
you know, wall touch screens and voice assistance with Alexa
and Google, they are you looking at panels at different
places in the house, or is one panel to be
able to control the whole house.
Speaker 4 (32:35):
So we're there's different things that I think, terminology wise,
that we have that we have to clear up. From
a panel standpoint, Are you just talking about like a
tablet or a screen where you're controlling different lights in audio?
Or are you talking about the panel that's in your
basement that controls your circuit breakers?
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Yeah, all the above, I guess, right, So they're different panels,
so it would be different, right, Yeah, and yeah, very
interesting to me. The convenience makes a lot of sense.
And it's like we lived on the corner on eighty
eighth in Towns for years before I bought a snowblower.
Once I got a snowblower, I was never going back. Right,
this kind of stuff, I think once you kind of
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tip your toe in and you go, wow, this is
you know, it's convenient. I don't have to get up
from my charity to turn the lights on it and just
go on my phone and hit them. I think once
people start to get involved in it and get more
comfortable with it, then they start to do more and more.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
I would think it's crazy how it grows. And the
AI that's out there now too, so you can have
self learning systems that learn the lights and what lights
should be on and off at the different times. So
that's something that's out there. It's not economical, but it's
out there right, and it's coming and it should start
to get better priced as it goes. But when you
(33:54):
mess and start doing with timers that are astrological timers
just for your outdoor lighting, it's such a cool security thing.
You realize that your light's changed. You could have your
coach lights go from coach to spot from a security
standpoint depending on the night in the day. So it's
wild what's out there when you're playing with it. There's
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also like the Halo Whiz is a color changing can light.
I know you had talked about that earlier, and so
they have a pre set setting and the switches where
if you just turn the switch on once, it's one
color and if you turn it off and turn it
right back on, it can come up as a different color.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Well, I thought there was a yeah, we got the
if you turn a real fast change.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
I didn't even know it was a term for it.
Speaker 3 (34:37):
Al I thought. I just thought the something wrong. I
why if you clip the switch back and forth it changes.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
So it's dual switching is the setup and how it's called,
and you.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Can program it makes it real bright blue. And I
don't like that big bright blue. I like that the
yellower light. So I go like, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
I do too. I I kind of like that dim
kind of yellow, kind of the warm color toime.
Speaker 2 (34:59):
Yeah, I don't want the blue. So that's what and
that's why it comes on.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
There, okay, and the real bright one that where it
looks like I'm in a doctor's office. Not great for me,
not great. You know, I need to have it dim
down just just a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Yes, I did. I ask Current, I want you to make this.
I wanted you to get you light at my office
so I can do operations.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
They went, oh yeah, they lit up for me.
Speaker 1 (35:17):
It's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
It's right, it's really good. But you got to where
sunglasses if you want to be there long.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Hey, the color changing can lights? Is that relatively new
because it's the first I've heard of that.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
It is pretty new probably the last twelve to eighteen months.
They've really been coming on. They have color changing floods
and all sorts of different lights now in that system.
It came from lamps, so Phillips is the was probably
the first creator of it, and it was all controlled
(35:47):
on the app. And now Phillips owns Halo Cooper as well,
and so they've pretty much put it all into the
same platform and the Halo Whiz and it's really really cool.
If you have soppit can lights, you can put these
trims in there and then you can alternate so like
on Brewer Game Day, it can be blue, yellow, it
can be yellow people Christmas time, it can be your
(36:08):
permanent ye.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
People the lights decorated.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yeah, people have houses now you drive past them, there's
different card of lights on them all year ound that's yeah,
they're permanent then.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Right, yep.
Speaker 4 (36:16):
So our outdoor patio we did that this almost a
year ago now, and I put in these color changing
lights there just to play with and I wanted to
see how they work. And we can alternate them so
that there don't hold this against me, but I'm in
front of Saint Louis, so they're red a lot of
times in summer.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Well, but yeah, he's a cardinal fan. We're kicking them out. Man,
you didn't tell me that. He didn't tell Sam.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
That before he came in. Apparently Sam ding the screening properly.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
No, we got we gotta do. We gotta vet him
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
I did hear the last one. Though Parker played ball
in Saint Louis, so it wasn't too bad from the
Sherwin Williams guy.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, he was a billickin, but he's still a cheesehead.
When when the Cardinals play the Birds, who are you're
rooting for? That's my birds? Anyway, there you go. That's
why I can't pronounce it.
Speaker 3 (37:07):
It's mad because remember in eighty two they're in a series.
You know, we got to go watch them lose. The
Cardinals so unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (37:15):
Hey, Mike, when we get to a break, we're gonna
get to a break. Other side of the break, we're
gonna talk a little bit. I want to get back
into the safety issue of of what you guys do,
because I think it's so important now as far as
motion right, we we can we can make sure that
that the backyard is lit, make sure the garage is
(37:36):
lit if somebody's walking past it. And we'll talk a
little bit about that. We'll talk a little bit more
about what Warner does. Not only in the state of Wisconsin.
You get euro up and up as well, will continue
our conversation. It used to be Werner Electric Supplies. Now
just Warner and Mike.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
My way is gonna They're gonna We're gonna cruise ships.
Well you can do in.
Speaker 1 (37:56):
That cruise ship. You know, if if i'm if I'm
hr over at Warner, I'm checking his uh, I'm checking
all of his expenses here in the next six months
and is not going to happen. I'm telling you he's
gonna get in trouble. Go to one Warner dot com,
one Warner dot com. If you're a contractor that has
not met Mike, you know, give him a call and
(38:18):
let him tell you a little bit about what Warner
can supply. And on their website, you know, there's a
lot of things that that that they offer to guys
like you, to people like Current Electric with after hour
service and their resources and everything that they offer. It's
a company that is a family owned, family owned, family owned.
Who's the own who's the president right now?
Speaker 4 (38:40):
The president is Craig Weedemeier. He is not a part
of the family. The next generation is our distribution product manager.
That's Dane McDonald excellent, but Terry McDonald, Lynn McDonald and
Linda Lee McDonald are all on the board right now.
And the McDonald family is the owners.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's awesome. Yeah, good Irish kid's right. Yeah, yeah, there
there you go. I bet they're all Brewer fans too. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Can you give him a good deal on green lights?
Speaker 1 (39:08):
Yeah? I need green lights? Yeah, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Whole liars don't like colors green.
Speaker 1 (39:12):
Yeah. And my again, my wife wouldn't mind the red
because of that whole Paplinsky thing. Where do you get
to a break other side of break? Mike is the
residential construction sales manager again at Warner. Go to one
Warner dot com get more information on him. What's what's
funny is? I said, Hey, what direction do you want
to take this? He said, anything in my industry? You
can ask me, because you know what, if I don't
(39:34):
know the answer, I'll find out. And he's a guy
that does a lot of education in this industry and
he's awfully good. When you get to a break other
side of break, will continue our conversation with Mike. This
is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home Improvement Show on Fox
Sports ninety twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back
to the Creative Construction, Wisconsin Home improvement show on Fox
(39:56):
Sports nine twenty and your iHeart Radio app coming live
from the don in Jorgans and Heating and Cooling Studios.
Mike Trowsky. He is the residential construction sales manager for Warner.
It was Warner Electric Supplies now just Warner go to
one Warner dot com. Hey, when when people at USB outlets.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
It's one of my favorite things to talk about.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Man, Well, let's tee it up. Man. Let if we
talk a little bit about the the how big that's
gotten now? Right, and and and how to select the
correct USB outlet for your house. What do you tell people?
Speaker 4 (40:36):
So there's the USB A, which is the little square
type of thing that most people are familiar with when
you talk to USB. Then there's the USB C, which
all new phones have now, so it's a n C.
I still recommend getting a combo version where you have
one of each because there's still a lot of things
that still run off that USBA device, but eventually that
(40:59):
will be going away. The other thing that you need
to talk about is power house.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
People that have the old ones, what happens?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
Got to go get a new one.
Speaker 4 (41:07):
It's you're gonna end up being uh moved to new.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
I got a whole bunch of chargers. There's a one
that was gonna between the angles on it. Yes, yes,
all those kind of charges.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Yeah, I don't even know away. I've got so many
in my deaths rot, I don't even know what they're
for anymore, And I just keep trying. Does that fit there?
Does that? When people talk to you about the outlets,
a single port, dual port for power port, there's a
lot of different selections for that.
Speaker 4 (41:34):
So it's about what are you gonna do it with?
What are you gonna do with it? Is it gonna
be something where it's at a drop zone where your
kids are plugging their phones in, you're plugging your phone in,
your spouse is plugging the phone in, you're plugging tablets in.
That's where I also said power. There's now USB devices
that have fifty loats of power. It's a true power
device or block. So instead of having that computer plug
(41:58):
that has that box transformer, you can now just take
a USB cable and plug it right into the wall
and then right into your computer and it has that
enough power to power your computer.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
We got to get some.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
Of those well, I'm just I'm just thinking about the
drop spots. I just think, okay, you mean that pile
of mes always got something charge.
Speaker 4 (42:15):
That is exactly that pile of mess. They could be
a kitchen island, it could be every modroom.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
You can't go past it without court hanging, and someone
that's plugged.
Speaker 1 (42:23):
In drives me, drives my wife crazy. By the way, location.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Selections we called the drop zone or something.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
Yeah, it's just you come into my office and behind
my desk. There's wires everywhere, but the location selections for
USB outlets, betide tables, right entry away, councils, home office desk,
kitchen counters, pretty much.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Pretty much everywhere next to the room, next to the couch.
Right there's a lot of people that have like a
makeup station in their bathroom, so they might have a
USB outlet there. There's razors that are charged now over USB.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
I thought that was just a mess on the corner.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's not your makeup is because we do radio and
you look good every week. I'm trying to figure out
how that works.
Speaker 3 (43:06):
He's getting ready for the streaming when we Yeah, let
us go to the streaming one.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
We're going to talk to Spencer's gonna look into that
and if he has any questions about it, he can
you know, we can we can talk about that. Yeah, Yeah,
give Mike a call Spencer, because you're gonna he can.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
He can do your your plugging station and your makeup
station for you.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Is there is there a way to get a USB
outlet so when we do this that he can make
me look thin and good looking or we're.
Speaker 4 (43:33):
Not going to stream.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
They haven't done that yet, have that? They have that?
Thank goodness, because people would have to look at that sweat.
That the ugly sweater you've got.
Speaker 4 (43:42):
You keep mentioning it, but it is a griswold sweater.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
For all those it is. I've got to believe your
wife just shakes her head and so all the time. Yeah,
it has to. Hey, the maintenance and safety for a
USB outlet? Is there much in that? Do you have
to worry about any of the maintenance or the safety
of having a USB outlet?
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Maintenance wise? I don't know that they've really been out
long enough to worry about it. It's just like your
normal receptacle. From a safety standpoint, they don't have not
all of them have shutters on them. Some of them do,
but you do have to worry about sticking things in
just like a regular outlet. I mean there's power there,
so you don't want to stick a paper clip into
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it or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Yeah, Bengo, I told you shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
I just like, well, you should be used like windox and.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I have to clean it. Hey, do you recommend people
use search protectors or safeguard?
Speaker 4 (44:35):
Absolutely, and so that too. There's also surge devices. So
if we're using that fifty AM or fifty watt power
device USB, we can have your electrician wire that up
behind a surge device so that it's protected internally as well,
so that you don't have to worry about actual power
strips or external surge protectors.
Speaker 1 (44:57):
Hey, with the Christmas the Griswold Smith sweater, you have
on overloading outlets by plugging too many high powered or
Christmas lights in. I would assume that when you drive
through the neighborhood and you see people that are lighting
it up like crazy, you get a little bit worried
what they're plugging all that into.
Speaker 4 (45:17):
Right, it is you never know what could create a
spark or cause something that can cause an issue, Like
when you look at in Griswold's all of the different
plugs that they have piggybacked onto each other, and how
they're barely hanging. Half of them are out of the receptacle,
like it is a mess waiting and it's like.
Speaker 2 (45:34):
Hand staple, a metal staple.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
And everywhere, you know what wires are getting cross somewhere
somewhere for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
Hey, Mike, thank you for your time. This is really
interesting for me. And there's about fifteen more directions we
could have gone with this, and the fact that you're like, look,
just you throw it my way. I'll be okay, I'll
be okay. I appreciate that. Say hi to Christy for me.
Let her know when you guys go hunting and she
needs company, I'm with her. I'm not with you, guys,
(46:01):
Riley and Ethan say hi to them for me. Merry Christmas, Junior.
Speaker 4 (46:05):
Merry Christmas to you guys as well.
Speaker 1 (46:07):
They go you as well. Do not spoil Shelby. It's
too late. That's the first time you've not had any.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Answer for Yeah, that ship has sailed.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
Yeah, yeah, well deb okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:20):
I don't want a grandma on that Oh yeah, yeah,
she don't have to worry about that.
Speaker 1 (46:23):
Merry Christmas to you and you and your family. Guys,
thanks for coming in. We're going to get your break.
Other side of the break, we'll get to the varsity
Blitz high school uh basketball. We're talking a lot of
w By shootout on the other side. This is the
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