March 15, 2025 • 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio app coming live
from the Donavan and Jorganson Heating and Cooling studios. Some
people turn their AC on yesterday. Man, any issues with
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(00:20):
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Make sure your air conditioner and furnace are working properly.
Thanks for joining us on. Mike McGivern alongside Bengo Emmons.
He's the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin. You got
a big day to day.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh yeah, we're really excited, especially my daughter. Yeah, we
actually got it. We got invited. It's an invitation only
Saint Patricks. They prayed don tonsall. We're just excited and
wait waite, Well, I like to think it's they're inviting
me because my truck is going to be in it.
But we all know who the star is and then
praid the star is the horse and all of it.
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We always do and we give out good treats and
price this fortune July we do to popsicles.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, we got well, we're gonna get you all fired
up for this parade today.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, but here I got something we gotta tried because
I know she's listening this week. This year, well it's
our first year in the Saint Patrick State. We did
always that other praise, but we never did this one before.
We did this one. This year we're doing uh cookies,
get out of here. Yeah, and I want you guys
to try them live on the air because our cookie
baker is listening. We'll see what you guys think.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
All right, I'm breaking mine off.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So anyways, if you come down her prey, we will
hand you whin He's praise and tell. We gotta tell Jennie,
our chef, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Those are really good? They're really good. Look, everybody's eating
and nobody can talk. Who made those?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Janie Katy well done? Yeah, she's you know, Aaron's mom. Yeah,
she's like, I like to cook something. So we said
we need some cookies for a whole parade.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How many does she make? It was over five hundred
and some? All right, they keep talking. You never like
Jennie well done.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, they're not gonna get all the cookies. The rest
of you guys, they will be at the parade. We'll
we'll only got five hundred. We have five hundred nineties
four ninety six left.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now well let's make it four ninety five.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So anyways, anyway, that's why we got invited because we
always do. We always you know, we're gonna be you know,
that was towards the end. We give out good treats
and then you know, we have people love the horse.
I like to think they're coming there to see me
in my old forty two truck, but we all know
why they're there.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The fact that the horse got invited to the Saint
Patrick's State parade. My last name is mcgiffern. My mother's
maid name was oh Faky, and I didn't get invited,
but the horse did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The something's not right with that. Yeah, that's the way it.
But you know, excited Sam was though. She was like screaming,
which you found. I'm like, oh god, the invitings.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So we canceled the other parade.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
We're going to this one man that's aws and it said,
huge voice, it is and the weather will be it
would be a little windy.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, we got well, I got little notice that they
sent Sam. She goes out. They're asking us not to
put decorations on right away and kind of hold off
and unless they're really really secured, you know, kind of
hold off. So you know, so we're not stuff going
all over the city, but they don't fix them out
our winter talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well that's awesome, Jane, thanks for the cookies. These things.
I'm telling you, I'd go down to the parade just
to try to catch one of these.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So you keep jumping the line up ahead? Oh have
we thankkee running up ahead?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Trust me, I've done that before. Hey, I'm excited about
today's show. Are one of our special guests is down
stick a little bit but no worries. Man. They went
through the right hand or in the bullpen. Hopefully he
can bring a little bit of heat. If not, at
the end of the first segment we'll kick him out
of here. They are a couple of guys from National
Property Inspection Ryan Engfeld.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
How are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How are you good a home inspector? It's good to
see you again. How is business?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Business has been absolutely fantastic. Usually we have a little
bit of a winter slowdown, but we have not felt
that this year. The market is still very strong and
we do all different types of things besides Home Inspections
and we have been very, very busy.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's been great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Good for you. You guys are going to be involved
with the Home Garden Show coming up I think next week, right,
it's yep. Yeah, it's going on for March twenty first
through the thirtieth. They're closed Mondays and Tuesdays. But man,
it's a long, really good show. It is a fantastic show.
Some of the things are landscaping, guys. The things that
they do and set up are absolutely incredible, stunning. If
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you haven't been to the show, go you need three hours,
three hours to walk the show.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It takes a whole building. You know, a lot of
shows you do almost the whole two thirds of it,
half or two thirds or third or something. Yeah, you
do a whole building.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Man, I'm looking forward to that. You guys are involved
in the Step Beyond Green. Do you have your own booth?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Now you get Property Inspections as their own booth and
the Step Beyond Green the healthy area and we're partnering
with all their affiliates in there. There you go, and
we've actually got some speaking times, so we're gonna be
doing some things, do for some presentations.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Man, that's awesome. If you go to their website, it's
m K E hgs so MKE Home Garden Show dot com,
you can save yourself a couple of bucks on tickets
and you could take a look at everything that's going
on during again March twenty first through the thirtieth. I
want to introduce Joe with us, Joe Bednarik. He is
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also a home inspector for National Property Inspecting. He's the
guy coming out of the bullpen. How you doing all right?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I'm doing real good. Thanks a lot for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, so far, so good. You're how long you've been
with National Property Inspection?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Been there for six years? Loving it, love a little
bit of outside inside. And you're in Wisconsin, Sophie complain
about the weather. Then you're in the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well wait ten minutes. Yeah, that's the old thing. It'll change.
What did you do, Joe? What did you do before this?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
A lot of stuff. I was a nine one one
dispatcher for a while. Garbage man, you name it? Kevia
Jack of all trades.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and you found yourself a home.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I do. Yeah, you like it a home looking at homes? Man,
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And I asked guys like you, can you go to
buddies like, you know, you bought a new home and
you just going to walk in to go to like
their first party, their househarming party. Can you just like
enjoy yourself or you looking around?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You can't help it. You look around, you bite your
tongue a new home or not? I mean, yeah, yeah,
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, there was a while there where houses were
just jumping right and people were waving their inspection. What's
your thought on that?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
You know, it's what it's what happens the market becomes
such a buyer's market. You get four offers on a house,
and you know, one one says they don't want a
home inspection. That's who they go with. So unfortunately that's
what's happened. But like Ryan said, we we have a
lot of eggs in the basket and we do a
lot of other things and we've been staying real busy.
So it's been a blessing working with MPI.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Think before we went on the air, you were talking about,
and I was. I just caught part of it. But
a buddy of yours was either going to buy a
house and he sent you some pictures and you said, no, no,
you got to look at this again. Oh yeah, there
was like a home special.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
People people think brand new homes passed. They usually almost
always fail, you know, and I probably, you know, I
gotta be careful because I'm heavily involved with the UH,
with the with the NBA and everything. But just a
guy send me a pictures brand new home and oh Creek,
you send me pictures? Is yeah, Binger, what do you
think about this? And I go, well, that's wrong right there.
And they's like, you know how much you want to
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fix that? You know you have to this will stay Wisconsin.
You you have to let the contract. He has the
right to cure, you know, the right to fix it.
But just from a picture, if I can see, just
from a photograph. But that's what I mean. These are
home inspectors, and you know the Wahie, Wisconsin Associated Home
Inspectors Organization. They do training every month, right so they
know what they're looking at and that's what they're doing.
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I'm one of the people that tell them that that's bad.
So that's the first thing he said. They want to
just verify that that's you know, a defect.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Hey, Ryan, from doing doing this show and hanging out
with them, going and talking to guys like you. When
when wife and I decided to sell our house few
years ago, it took me three years to convince her
to move and then she said, I'll tell you what,
you you get everything done because we're there thirty years.
If you get everything up to date and we can
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pass you know, have a home inspector come in and
we can pass it, then we let's do it. So
we had, you know, we had some work done, we
had a hole, we had Creative Construction come out, we
had Randy Miller come out, we had Current Electric come out,
we had dinedvand Jordan's had come out, and we got
everything done right.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, thank goodness, thank goodness. I yeah, I think I
think a couple of them gave me a deal. A
couple maybe now, but that's okay, sure, Yeah. Mancuso Chris
Mancuso was the last piece of that because we saw
a crack, but because of who my wife is more
than me. Her deal was, let's get everything where we
can pass, and we have a home inspector come out
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and go make sure you look at this or look
at that, and then we'll go ahead and sell the house.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
You know, other guys you just said, those are the
true professionals within the industry. Those are the guys that
teach us as home inspectors were generalists, and those are
the guys that teach us to make sure that we're
not missing those things.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, and going back to the home inspection stuff, it's
you can't emphasize it enough on the importance of a
home inspection. I just did an inspection yesterday on an
eleven month warranty, and you find a lot of things.
It's human nature. A general contractor hires contractors and you
miss stuff, and you know the importance of a home inspection. It's,
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for instance, it could be a really good home, but
there's a lot of backdrafting from a water heater. It's
something you're not going to see when you're walking around
the house. You're looking at you know, is my kids
bed gonna fit here? And is this a you know,
electric washer gas one? But a backdrafting of you know
your water heater is a major health hazard, or if
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there's that proper flashing on the on the window, you
might not see it right away, but there could be
thousands and thousands and thousands of damage just a couple
of years down the road. So by getting that home inspection,
you're really protecting yourself. So I would just encourage everybody
if you can't get a home inspection, be very very
very cautious. And you know it's just something you don't
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really want to risk.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's too expensive, don't you think it's If you don't
get it done when you're buying a house, it's going
to end up costing you a lot more money.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I mean all houses are going to have maintenance stuff,
and you know, we encourage two post inspections no matter what.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
If you get through the process and everyone understands.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
You want to clean this deal to actually buy the house, right,
But it's something as a homeowner you can have responsibilities.
Those are the things that you want to know about.
And as a home inspector, we're looking for health and
safety issues along with just making sure everything is working.
It is intended to be you.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Know, I a long time ago, my son they were
buying their first house and we're on We're at the
other station, but we're on this show and we had
Howard Rawell from Royal Chimney, and my son sent me
a text like about this time and said, hey, you
know they said there might be an issue the Chimmey
what do I do with that? And I learned out
of the air and Bingo's like, have Howard go over there?
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And I go. So they send a couple of pictures
I show him to Bengo. He's like, you definitely want
Howard to go over there. So after the show, Howard
like drove over there, sure, and said, here's the issues.
Either you know, they can take some money off the
price or they can get it fixed, but you're going
to want to make sure that we're doing it because
here's the issue.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Howard is a true guru.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Right, and we recommend what's called a level two inspection
during every time, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's just for health and safety stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Howard. I got a text last week from a friend
of mine lives in Hartford and said, Hey, any chance
you have somebody in this industry, and I go, he's
the guy. He's been to the White House like thirty times,
so if he's doing the White House, he knows what
he's doing. And I had her call Howard and I think,
I think it's okay that I passed along Howard's cell
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number and that is office number. And I'm sure you know,
seven o'clock at night, my friend's calling him saying, hey,
we're having this issue, but mcgiffrey gave me your number,
and he's just like, that's fine, we'll figure it out.
But that that saved my son a bunch of money.
And for us to do it, because my wife wants
to be able to sleep at night, doesn't want she
never wants to think that, hey we got over on somebody.
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Let's get all this stuff done now. And that way
we have the home inspector come in tell us anything
else we're missing, so that when the potential buyer, we
can either show it to them or they can have
their own. And that worked out really, really well. I
think people have to understand, I know you love the house.
You know you can wait a month you'll find another
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one you love, or even a week, but make sure
that you're getting that dead inspection. I just think that's
so important.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That happens from everything, even like outlets. People have an
outlet that they never used ever, right, you ever use
it ever? I guess my guy will check in finals defaulty.
You know, he can start a fire. I mean, there's
things that can happen. And I've been to I've been
on both sides. I've been with the guys. Well, you know,
I said, man, your home inspector should have picked this up. Mister,
you don't want to stand. We were there's eight people
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ahead of us that offered just as much money, and
they all waved a home inspector. So we had to
offer more money and wave the home inspector, you know,
and that's all the ways they don't get a house.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Do you know what was interesting through that process? And
we had Chris Mancuso come up because we saw a
crack in the basement and I said, you know what,
I'm not messing with this, Like, let's just put the
beams up the entire basement. Let's just get them. And
so we had it done and the first three or
four people that came through the house, three of them said,
you know they do a little right up. Here's the
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reason we're not making an offer. Those beams. Well, we
would keep the twenty five year warranty that stays with
the house. And I'm like, this thing is costing us.
And then the next person that came, I happened to
be there and I got a chance to I thought,
if they, if these reallys can't sell my house, I
certainly can't. So I happened to be there and I said, hey, guys,
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see you know the beams, here's where the crack was.
And instead of just trying to fix that one wall,
we did this to make sure that you would have
no issues for the next twenty five years. And they went, well,
thank you for telling us, and they went through what
Chris had left and that's the people that bought the house.
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So it was I'm glad we did it that way
because the people that bought the house walked into a
house that was completely updated in that kind of stuff.
The electrical was great, the plumbing was perfect. The beams
we even moved a couple of things in the basement
to make sure the beams were the right. Well we didn't.
They did. Yeah, yeah, trust me, man Crusso he took over,
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like you can't believe. The funny part about that with
him is he said, look, we once we get all
this pre stuff done, I'll send my crew over at
eight am and we should be done, you know by
you know, in the day. And I'm like, really, I
came home for lunch and they were done and it
was spotlight. I was like, you got to be kidding,
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and I called Chris. He goes, look, pre COVID, we
could take a week. We could be in somebody's house.
We'll spend two hours in this house, go to that house.
Now when COVID had people want us in and out,
they want us in and out. He said, I send
my whole crew. We do we do that job. He goes,
we got two jobs done that day, yours and another
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one down the block. And instead of taking a week
and doing two hours here or two hours there and
sending three guys, I send my whole crew and we
get things done. And he said it's been really It's
made us become way more efficient. And I think, looking back,
I was kind of mad at my wife for making
us go through all those jump through all the hoops.
But when it was done and they brought their home inspectrum,
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there was one our front window that we needed to
make a change with, and we ended up just bringing
the price down a little bit, and they never put
the window off. They just took they took the discount,
which was fine. Don't care, but I think that that's
the way. Do you have a lot of people who
are selling the house that have you out or is
it more people that are buying the house usually transactional.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The market has changed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's softened a little bit where guys are actually able
to do home inspection stuff. So we do find some things,
but we never know the negotiating side. Our goal is
to make sure that we inform our client how the
house is functioning. I always say I don't know the
negotiation siety, and I don't want to know it. I
want to make sure you understand how the house is working.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
And if you're out there and you've purchased the house,
and you know you waived your inspection just so you
could get the house, you know, we do offer post
purchase inspections too, so we could still come in there
look at your house with the same eyeballs. And now
you can kind of treat our inspection as your bucket
list things to take care of. Find out what exactly
is the most important thing that you should stick your
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money in to repair up the house and kind of
just take it from there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I have people do that.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Is.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, we're closing on on in October fifth, about noon. Right,
I'm gonna see you at one. They want me right
there because they want me there because they weren't allowed
to send anybody over there ahead of time. And they
know they got to fix stuff and they want to fix,
you know, before they move in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And Joe, will you tell them what are you know?
The Hey, here are the first three things you got
to get you now, and then as you kind of
move in, you might want to look at this, you
might want to look at that, But will you star
at least tell people here if you're if you're buying
this house, here are the first three things you need
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I read you because I get to read paps of reports,
because when the people write a report, I read reports.
So I actually have stuff they'll say like monitor, we
have an area that it looks all right, but you
might want to keep your eye on it though. I
actually we'll point those all.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Two yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So anything that's you know, health and safety, we do
prioritize that. Defective things it's labeled defective needs maintenance, and
like Bingo said, kind of more monitor. Hey this rough
it looks about twenty years old. It's got a lot
of granular loss. Just a little repairs. You want to
start budgeting because five ten years down the road you're
probably getting need a replacement. But yeah, these things you
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need to take care of right away.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, not bad coming out of the bullpen. We're going
to keep you. We're not going You're not going down
the miners quite yet, young man. Yeah, not bad at all.
Ryan and Joe both home inspectors, National Property Inspections. If
you go to their website, man, they give you a
lot of information on this company. It's n p I
web one word, n p I web dot com and
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then back go to the Milwaukee go to the Milwaukee market. Correct,
Is that what you want to do?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yep?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So it's actually n p I dash w y dot com.
There you go, hold on, yeah, yep, ye, yep, Yeah,
I'm right on it right now. N p I web
dot com gets you exactly where you need to go
as well. We're going to get to a break. Oh
this side of the break.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Invent. Environmental service is something that you guys are are
all about and we're going to talk a little bit
about that in the second segment, the National Property and
they're going to be down at the Home of Garden
Show coming up March twenty first through the thirtieth. March
twenty first through the thirtieth, and you can meet these
guys in person. The show is open again the twenty
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first through the thirtieth. Closed Monday and Tuesday, but boy
full dates and hours. If you go to their website
mk e HGS. Just google Milwaukee Home and Garden Show
and it'll pop right up. You can save some money
on tickets and get some information on this show coming up.
Excuse me at State Fair Park. We'll get to a break.
Other side of the break will continue talking national property inspections.
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This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement show on
Fox Sports ninet twenty in your iHeart Radio app Hell
the kind of music we're playing today. Saint Patrick's Day
Parade going on today downtown and you can go down
and see Creative Construction Wisconsin. It gets some really good
Do you have more cookies? I only brought him just
enough here, so smart are the rest in the car?
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You have your key horun out there. Maybe maybe maybe,
Hey guys, man, make sure you get down to that St.
Patrick's Stay parade and if you're there, yell the Bingo.
He'll throw you a cookie or two and you definitely
want to get your hands. This is a no.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We were told to make sure you only hand them
cookies out. Oh hand m throw cookies?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You bet? Yeah, I don't have me there. I could
still throw it a little bet, I can still throw it.
Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement Show.
We're coming live from the Dotavan and Jorgans and Heating
and Cooleen Studios at Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's
the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin. And Ryan and Joe.
They are both home inspectors with National Property Inspections. Hey,
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Ryan Environmental Services. Can we talk a little bit about
that segment you guys obviously very important to you. You
guys are part of Step Beyond Green. You know, if
you want to meet these guys at Home and Garden
show coming up again a little bit later in March
March twenty first through the thirtieth at State Fair Park.
But let's talk about that part of your business.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Absolutely, so one of the things that we kind of
saw calling for with especially post COVID, right everyone was
in their homes and everyone's having health issues and that
sort of thing. So on the environmental services we were
able to think outside the box and people that an't
having health concerns. We take our home inspection knowledge and base,
we go outside the box a little bit for environmental
stuff and we can come in and kind of help.
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There are some folks who do work with some doctors
and they're having some testing of things done.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
What we're able to do during our environmental.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Services process is actually correlate certain things that we might
be testing for for labs and get some samples back.
They can correlate sometimes with their direct symptoms that they're having.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, Ryan, can I ask you this? We My wife
had made a comment the other day that said, hey,
do you know that we seem to sneeze more in
the condo than we did in our house and maybe
we should get to have somebody come do duck cleaning.
And I talked with Scott Fisher from Donovant, George seeing
any cooling. He said, look, being in a condo, I'm
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not quite sure that we can do that. Are you
guys able to come out and and do like an
indoor air Yes, there's something for ely.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yep, there's a couple of different ways to do it.
I'll not actually Joe talk about some of the equipment
that we can use.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, we kept him for a second second. Yeah, I
know you're nobody more surprised than you on that one.
Let's go back to the right of out of the bullpen, hey,
before we do during the break? Eight kids. Yeah, that's awesome.
How old are your kids?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
There's sixteen, and then count down to four from there.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Let's go with their names. Are they listening by any chance?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
If so, shout out to Ellie, Alis, Bethy, Daisy Izzy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You heard that right. I had five girls in a
row number give.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Me their names again.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
First five, el Alice, Bethany, Daisy, Isabelle, and then I
had my first boy, Abraham, and then Dorothy, and the
last one was Jack, another boy.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's good for you homeschool kids. And what is your
wife's same, Christy, Christy, there there is a special place
in having for you, my dear.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, where does like the older ones, where do they
go to school?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
We homeschool our kids.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's awesome. Good for you, congratulations on that. Love that. Hey,
so let's get back the indoor air quality, the testing
that you guys do.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And it's indoor air quality. Isn't a fan with kids
like that?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Be awesome? How big is the house we have a
it's too big.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's three thousand square oh mine?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
For the morning.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Breakfast, breakfast, lunch, and dinner chores every single day.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'd like to be the Pick and Save in your neighborhood.
I'll tell you that, I would make sure that you
were like at a special place for our store will
open fifteen minutes early for you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
My two oldest work at Pick and Save. That's when
you say that my high school Pick.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And Saves and sponsor kind of this show and a
big time sponsor my high cool stuff. So yeah, it
brought you by your local Pick and Save in metro
market stores.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And you know where you getting money to sponsor? Yeah,
there you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So let's talk about that indoor air quality. And I
think people have to understand the importance of that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And we talked about COVID earlier, and it's something about
staying inside the house. A lot of people are finding
that they're sick inside the house. And with the condo thing,
it kind of brings up the newer houses too. They're
more tight, so they don't breathe as well. And you know, mold,
it needs three things to groan and to become hazardous.
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It needs a food source. It needs the right temperature
and humidity. Well, the food sources everywhere, right, it's in
all the construction material. The temperature they like what we like.
They like between sixty and eighty degrees fahrenheit. The one
thing that they really flourish with is the moisture. They
like it above sixty sixty percent relative humidity. So when
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we come in there with the indoor air quality with
our eyeballs for that, we're looking for a lot of
things that have to do with moisture, any leaks from
the outside. We talk a lot about home inspection stuff
that we do in the beginning of this segment, and
we approach the house inspection with indoor air quality through
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multifaceted glasses. So we come in there with the home
inspection glasses, We walk the roof, we look for grating
at the exterior, we look for flashing on the exterior,
make sure all the windows and doors are installed properly.
We look for plumbing leaks on the inside, and the
tools we use help us to see the things that
we can't see with our eyes. So we use the
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infrared to look for any kind of temperature anomalies, for
insulation missing in the walls and the ceiling, or any
kind of stains or active leaks, and the monitors tell
us for numerous things that are hazardous air quality things
such as for mal the hide, volatile orgain compounds, particulate matters,
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and it gives us a reading of all those fairly instantly.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And the newest one right on, yeah, right on, and
before we're going to get to that, do you know
the first time on any of the shows I've done,
when with with you guys for for this type of show,
we talked about mold and it was with you and
I And was it Sam who came in? Somebody somebody
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came in to talk about the work that you guys
did with mold.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, okay, Well that's actually the whole lady behind the
whole step beyond Green. We brought her in.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, this was back at the other station and it
was really all of a sudden. We talked about it
and the problem with with mold and how people freak out,
and a lot of times it can be taken care
of without a huge expense, but there are times that it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
People and it happens to it. That's one of the
things about plaster. Plaster gets mold, you can pretty much
wipe it off, right. But the problem with drywall is
is his paper is a food source and once it
gets in there, it cannot be cleaned. It has to
be removed people. People do us all the time or
do they think you buy that special paint. We buy
a special paint from one of those from those black
stores that say, you know, mold mold killer. You know,
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read instructions. The first thing it says on here it
must remove all mold first. Okay, there is no special paint.
There's only one way to get rid of mold and drywall,
and that's to remove it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Hey, if somebody Ryan, somebody calls you guys in to
do an inspection on that, can you talk a little
bit about that process. I mean, if somebody sees, you know,
in the basement, you've got the brick walls and you
see some black there and right away they they you know,
kind of freak out because you certainly do not want
all that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's also you guys talk about the white people see
like the white the white stuff on it. People don't
realize what that is.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, So in the basement, you can't have effluorescence, right,
and it's it can get a little furry on the walls.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There's line when there's minerals and things in.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
The black and there's too much water can move through
the black and it hits the surface, it can get
a little fuzzy and they can actually push the paint
off depending on how much water is coming through there.
And everyone thinks that it's molder microbio growth, right, and
we try to go make sure that this is not
what this is. So my background is firewater restoration and
one of the things that we all was looking for
for the aspect of and we have hole through a
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questionnaire for all of our clients to make sure was
there any previous water losses, Was there anything done, was
there anything that was leaking anything that they're aware of.
It kind of gives us a starting place, but we're
also looking for in basements, is there obvious water staining.
Is there obvious microbial growth that's on the on the
framing air sept But from the outside, we take a
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look at the whole picture.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And you can catch people who are just trying to
They just paint their basement real quick, right to make
it look better. I was told, good luck with that,
because you're gonna get caught to And that's who we
had to make sure that.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know, we didn't just try to put as home inspectors.
They can't do this, but they can do They can
call professionals like me or Chris and we can rubble
wall and that'll get a wait for popping on it
just comes guy.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You guys, do you guys do partial mold inspection or
full mold? I'm on you on your website. What's the difference.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Depending on the client. It depends on what they need.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Some clients actually have some health concerns and they want
the whole gamut of everything where we can do inter
air quality testing and also some duck testing and send
some samples to labs that kind of correlate.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
With how do you test the duck? Get get the
quack one?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You got to catch the first well done? Hey, you
had talked about the radon testing and obviously it's a
big part what I I don't think people understand second
leading cause of one catch here and you guys do
a lot of a lot of raid on testing, I
would assume, right, we do.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We actually included in the inter air quality inspection.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's one of those things that just we try to
process double elimination and if they have if folks have
them mitigations with them installed, we want to make sure
it's operating properly and if they're not, if they're not,
one is in sold, then we get a higher level.
That's one of the recommendations that we can do is
that they get a mitigation system installed.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hey, how do you know if if ray is in
your home? How do you like? How do you know?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
And the right kind of testing with a digital monitor.
Some of the things that you can get from a
store or charcoal test, they can come back, they can
be inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So having a true digital test done by a professional.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's like a mold test. People that do mold their
own male test. If you're not trained, it's it's it's
not it's it's not worth it because I can I
can you know or like, you know what, just a lot.
But you can scam somebody, right I can. I can
get a mold test, open a window and they'll fail.
Really yeah, you can make anybody fail without I mean,
so you gotta be careful especially that's why you're want
independent testers like these guys that don't you know, clean
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it for a living.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well and look grade on is in something like mole
that you might be able to see correct, you don't
you don't know, you don't know? And you and to
have you guys come out. How often if somebody has
you come out, you know in March, when is the
next time that they have you out? Is that a
yearly recommend every two years, every two years EPA, Right?
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And how long is how long does it take to
have you guys come out and do the test?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
The minimum is a forty eight hour test, which we
do a lot during transactions. But if you'd like to
get a true and if you're really having some health issues,
then we can do a four or five day test
and that kind of just gives a better average of
the levels that are going up. Lambingo was saying, especially
in the summertime, everyone knows open up their windows, right, well,
that can create a different stack effect within the home,
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and that can actually increase the rate on levels.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And when you say forty eight hours, you're not going
to stay at my house for forty hours, right, all right, No,
you're a good enough guy. I just I'm not you know,
I don't want Joe bringing all the Doourtina the kid.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No, he was making a map because I used condo's.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Where am I putting? I got to put Joe's sixteen
year old in her own room?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And then the other four girl, whoever the food is,
you'll find them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, you bring Abraham.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
My daughter has four kids, all boys by the way. Yeah,
the Bonner voice from from fifteen to three. And I'm like,
you guys know we're done.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
We're not.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We tried for you know, if we're not going to
have a girl in the first four, I think we're done.
So I love that. So the forty eight hours or
the week, you guys come in and put something in
the home and then come back, and how long does
it take to get to get the answer on what's
going on in the home?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Then so us we have a fifteen to thirty minute
drop that because sometimes people have questions and that sort
of thing. So we fill it an app to make
sure everything is starting right, and we actually use a
product called Redlink. It's a it's a digital meter and
it sits in a home. It takes all the readings
it's done through the app, and then when we go
to pick everything up, usually depending on the pickup time,
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we can have the results within same day or sometimes
within twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hey, the fact that you guys are involved with Step
Beyond Green obviously a big part of national property inspections
here in the state of Wisconsin in our area for sure.
The environmental service part of it is is obvious a
big part of what you guys do.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Cor Absolutely there's been a calling for it, and we
like to boast with our things because we take the
home inspection process, but also with the guys that we
have with Jim Ozer, Joe Banark, and myself, we have
over one hundred years of experience. And also Jim's son Josh,
is also part of the company. He runs the weatherization
side of things. So if we find things during the
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indo air quality inspection and we need to go a
step further, we can also do lower door testing and
those types of things, So we are the whole package.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Hey at the Home and Garden Show next week March
twenty first through the thirtieth. If people want to have
that conversation with you guys about home inspection or certainly
the environmental services that you guys offer, it's look, it's
not one of the sexy Look I'm getting a new backsplash,
I'm getting a brand new kitchen. It's not one of
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those things. But the background of keeping your family, keeping
your friends, keeping people in the home healthy is the
thing that is one of the things really really important
to your company. And when Jim was here a year ago,
when we brought up that part, he lit up like
a Christmas treat, and it was that servant leadership part
of Look, we're just trying to help people. We're trying
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to keep them healthy, trying to keep families healthy, and
for especially with right on something you can't detect on
your own. So let's let us come in. It's relatively
inexpensive to have you guys come in and make sure
that the home is safe, and I and I commend
you guys for that. How much of your business do
you think is that the environmental services part. Is it
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twenty percent? Is it forty percent?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
What do you think it's been growing? I would say
the last year of self, that's that's hard.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But it's been growing, like growing, like but I'm bumming
in a good way, but I'm We got a comedian.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
And yeah, Mike like it's it's something like this radio station.
It's making people aware and I think as a society
we're becoming more and more aware of it. So anybody
out there that you know you're just feeling blah, or
you're feeling sick, or you know you're just not feeling
so healthy, especially when you're at your house, it could
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be something related to indoor air quality in your house.
So when we come out there and we look at
the house, we take a whole house approach, and to
even get a little bit more specific on partial mold
versus full mold that we offer. The partial mold is
what most mold inspectors offer. That's we basically come there,
we sample the visible mold, and we're out of there
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and offer no advice to you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So what good does that do to you?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I got mold in my house, What good is that?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, you're right, Yeah, thanks here's your money.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We don't want to do that.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
We're not there to just get your money, like like
you said, Mike. We want to help you out. So
we take that whole house approach. We bring all these
other knowledges to the table. We test for the mold
in the air. We also test for the duct work
to see if there's a mold in the duct work,
and that's something. Everything is remediable. So yeah, if you're
if you're feeling sick and you don't know why, highly
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highly highly recommend a full mold inspection for more of
an exhaustive what's going on in my house?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He wake up? You're one of those people that just
wake up with us, you know, with us, a running
nose every morning, and you feel great when you come
home from work. Right, there's a good issue. There's a
good sign.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, you might want to look. Hey, Joe, the six kids?
Who who causes the Who is Abraham? The one? I
don't know why I knew that? Abraham Abraham? If your
listeners sit down, be nice to Jack, be nice to
your brother and girls, Be nice to your younger brothers.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love that, Hey, Jose, pretty good. Next time we
have NPI, we just we should just have Joe and Abraham.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, bring Joe. Which ones who talks the most?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, how old is he?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Old?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Is he eight? Wonderful?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
But you know what, if I tell you my kids,
go get a star wrench er, fire up the you know, Jack,
you'll know what to get.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Really good for you keep t h being homeschooled right there,
for sure, guys, we're gonna get to a break out
the side of the break. If you want to meet
these guys in person. They won't. These guys aren't gonna
be there the whole time, but their company will be.
They're gonna be at the Home and Gardens Center Home
and Garden Show. It's March twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
First, through the evening Present Machine.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that on the other
side of the break and find out what you guys
will be talking about. They're going to be part of
this step beyond Green. But go over and and certainly
talk with the guys from National Property Inspections, Ryan and
Joe and that whole team. And again when when when
the owner Jim was here a year ago and we
talked about the environmental services part of this company. Man,
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he he literally wanted to talk the entire hour on
it because it was so important to him in this
company to keep people health and also, you know, Creative
will be there too. You know, I know that I
was gonna get to that.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know what's number yet, you're gonna be I'm in
the same area wherever he is.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'm right here.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We're gonna be in step beyond Green.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, we're gonna step beyond green with the while with
the all of Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
In fact, Jonathan will be in next week, I think. Right. Yeah,
we'll talk to him about talk about our whole area.
That's awesome. We're going to get to a break other
side of the break again, we'll continue our conversation. National
Property Inspections. You can go to their website and NPI
web dot com will get you to where you need
to go.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
NPI cresta inspector of Crest. Joel, he's a lot of kids.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
He's got a lot. Yeah, we we you know what,
we need to make him some money. We need we
need Abraham need some new tennis shoes.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man, Let's bring him along keep yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know, well, we'll put a microphone with with him
and we'll let him talk a little bit. This is
the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox
Sports nineteen twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back
to the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show, coming live
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company in the state of Wisconsin. And any issues you
have with your HVAC go to Donavidjorganson dot com bingo.
Emmitts is my co host. He's the owner Creative Construction Wisconsin.
We're talking to Ryan and Joe, both home inspectors for
National Property Inspections. Hey, guys again, the people can come
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down and see you and meet people from your company.
How much time you're going to be putting down there?
How about you two guys? Yeah, Hey, you've got you
guys are going to get up on stage and and
talk to you. Do you have that to give us
the dates and times and when people can come see you.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Friday, uh from one at one thirty, it'll be Beth
and Chris talking about Indo air quality and EMF. Saturday
three twenty two at eleven thirty, I will be doing
Indo air Quality and Friday also myself on the twenty
eighth at two pm into air Quality, and then Joe
will be talking on Sunday, Saturday, the twenty ninth ale
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about into air Quality and mold.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Also, man, busy, busy, you get nervous getting doing any
of that stuff? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yeah, we're on stage every day during home inspections and
this is a way for us to do education for
the folks, not only for their own homes, but in
processes no matter what we're looking at.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
So hey, and you're not just here in southeast Wisconsin,
because looking at at your website, you know NPA Wisconsin
Rate on Testing it says, look, we've been Wisconsin, Delts, Appleton, Oshkosh.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You guys moving well anywhere and everywhere. Absolutely you do. Yep,
absolutely a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Of competition in in what you do, but you guys
have set yourself apart and a number of issues, and
one is that whole environmental.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Services competition and people that just go out there in
just those samples, so here you go, what they do,
there's not much competition because they go that step beyond,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
The step beyond. All right, perfect, well, Jonathan, it'll be
in next week. So that works out really well.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Jonathan, say one step back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
One step back. When when when somebody calls you guys
and and they book a home inspection or they have
you come out on the environmental part. Is it just
a phone call or you go on your website fill
out a questionnaire and and uh, what what's the timing
on something like that? How long does it take to
get you guys out there?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, I mean we try and work with what you need.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
We understand you know, when it comes to house purchasing,
things can move pretty quickly, and there's deadlines or whatnot.
But yeah, if you go on the line and you
fill it out, then somebody is going to give you
a call from our office. You could always call us
to at two six two six three six ninety nine
nine and we'll take care of you there.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Two six two six three six ninety nine nine.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
How many employees work at your company? About? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
About ten, I'd say, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Like Ryan said, we focused more on the inspection side,
and then Josh on the weather's station side.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
They got numerous employees as well.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Man, that's awesome. Well, look, you can go on their website,
have these guys come on. And I would highly recommend
if you're selling your home or thinking about buying a home,
if you're going to put a bit on, have these
guys come out first, because look, the amount of money
that you have to pay them to do it is
going to save you money in the long run. I
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can almost I can almost guarantee that, right absolutely, here
come a little closer, Yes, sir, you have seen some
nightmare stories of people that haven't done this before buying
a house, and we don't want people to go through
those nightmares. Look, maybe eighty percent seventy percent of the
time you get lucky and you're fine, but those twenty
or thirty percent, it's going to cost you a lot
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more money at the back end than it will. And
you can fall in love with the house right, fall
love in the neighborhood. But if all of a sudden
you go you got to put an extra fifty grand
in because you didn't have the home inspection, you don't
love the house nearly as much as.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
You as much.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We find some significant things sometimes, and somebody might look
like a little problem on the outside, but when you
really understand construction and building in materials, you understand what
might be going on behind the walls. We actually just
had Bingo out for a referral on a home inspection
and he was able to help the client make make
a choice.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
If they were going to move forward with the purchase
or not.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
So we were able to during the inspection point some
things out, and then Bingel came in behind us and
made his recommendations.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Also, he's talking about US home inspectors. He can't tell
you whether this is a good buyer or not. They
can't anything that's worth it. But they can't tell you that.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know what, if you go on if you go
on their website, take a look at the example of
the report that you get back. It's not a one sheeter.
I can tell you that it is not a one
hear that says, yeah, everything looks great, check check check.
That thing is really detailed and it's quite a quite
a read. When you look at that exact ample of
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of what you're going to get back every part of
the home, you'll you'll have an idea on Okay, we're
good to go, or we're not. And I love that. Hey,
I'm a little surprised you're not. We're in green today, Bingo.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm surprised that. I'm glad that you didn't where you're killed.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, this weekend when you leave for the high school.
So I put it on. I just don't want to
offend you. Yeah, yeah, I need. I need the son
to see these white Irish legs. I can tell you
that have fun at that parade.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be fun. I'm just I'm really
happy for Sam to pull us the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Me too, me too. And and the fact that the
horse is uh, the miniature horses is the start.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Let's say, well, they really want our company.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Well, we know the cookies are unbelievable. I'm done with mine.
You've got any more? You want to leave, we'll see
how left or yeah, there you go, run out and
run them out to the car. Hey, guys, thank you, Joe,
it was good to meet you. You did good. You
did good. Say say, give give those kids a hug
for me, and tell your wife there's a special place
in heaven for her. Ryan. So I was good to
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see you. Thank you so much. Guys, don't forget you
can meet these guys and people from their company at
the Home of Garden show coming up. Friday starts Friday,
March twenty. First goes through Sunday March thirtieth, and go
to the Creative Construction Wisconsin booth as well and salo
to Bigo. Maybe he's got some extra cookies that he'll bring.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
If we do, I'll bring them there.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, there you go, guys. Have a great weekend. It's
good to see everybody. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin
Home improvement show on Fox Sports ninet twenty and your
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Make sure your air conditioner and furnace are working properly.
Thanks for joining us on. Mike McGivern alongside Bengo Emmons.
He's the owner of Creative Construction of Wisconsin. You got
a big day to day.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh yeah, we're really excited, especially my daughter. Yeah, we
actually got it. We got invited. It's an invitation only
Saint Patricks. They prayed don tonsall. We're just excited and
wait waite, Well, I like to think it's they're inviting
me because my truck is going to be in it.
But we all know who the star is and then
praid the star is the horse and all of it.
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We always do and we give out good treats and
price this fortune July we do to popsicles.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Yeah, we got well, we're gonna get you all fired
up for this parade today.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Okay, but here I got something we gotta tried because
I know she's listening this week. This year, well it's
our first year in the Saint Patrick State. We did
always that other praise, but we never did this one before.
We did this one. This year we're doing uh cookies,
get out of here. Yeah, and I want you guys
to try them live on the air because our cookie
baker is listening. We'll see what you guys think.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
All right, I'm breaking mine off.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
So anyways, if you come down her prey, we will
hand you whin He's praise and tell. We gotta tell Jennie,
our chef, what do you think?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Those are really good? They're really good. Look, everybody's eating
and nobody can talk. Who made those?
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Janie Katy well done? Yeah, she's you know, Aaron's mom. Yeah,
she's like, I like to cook something. So we said
we need some cookies for a whole parade.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How many does she make? It was over five hundred
and some? All right, they keep talking. You never like
Jennie well done.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, they're not gonna get all the cookies. The rest
of you guys, they will be at the parade. We'll
we'll only got five hundred. We have five hundred nineties
four ninety six left.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Now well let's make it four ninety five.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
So anyways, anyway, that's why we got invited because we
always do. We always you know, we're gonna be you know,
that was towards the end. We give out good treats
and then you know, we have people love the horse.
I like to think they're coming there to see me
in my old forty two truck, but we all know
why they're there.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
The fact that the horse got invited to the Saint
Patrick's State parade. My last name is mcgiffern. My mother's
maid name was oh Faky, and I didn't get invited,
but the horse did. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
The something's not right with that. Yeah, that's the way it.
But you know, excited Sam was though. She was like screaming,
which you found. I'm like, oh god, the invitings.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
We have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
So we canceled the other parade.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
We're going to this one man that's aws and it said,
huge voice, it is and the weather will be it
would be a little windy.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Yeah, we got well, I got little notice that they
sent Sam. She goes out. They're asking us not to
put decorations on right away and kind of hold off
and unless they're really really secured, you know, kind of
hold off. So you know, so we're not stuff going
all over the city, but they don't fix them out
our winter talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well that's awesome, Jane, thanks for the cookies. These things.
I'm telling you, I'd go down to the parade just
to try to catch one of these.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
So you keep jumping the line up ahead? Oh have
we thankkee running up ahead?
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Trust me, I've done that before. Hey, I'm excited about
today's show. Are one of our special guests is down
stick a little bit but no worries. Man. They went
through the right hand or in the bullpen. Hopefully he
can bring a little bit of heat. If not, at
the end of the first segment we'll kick him out
of here. They are a couple of guys from National
Property Inspection Ryan Engfeld.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
How are you good morning?
Speaker 1 (03:34):
How are you good a home inspector? It's good to
see you again. How is business?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Business has been absolutely fantastic. Usually we have a little
bit of a winter slowdown, but we have not felt
that this year. The market is still very strong and
we do all different types of things besides Home Inspections
and we have been very, very busy.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
It's been great.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Good for you. You guys are going to be involved
with the Home Garden Show coming up I think next week, right,
it's yep. Yeah, it's going on for March twenty first
through the thirtieth. They're closed Mondays and Tuesdays. But man,
it's a long, really good show. It is a fantastic show.
Some of the things are landscaping, guys. The things that
they do and set up are absolutely incredible, stunning. If
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you haven't been to the show, go you need three hours,
three hours to walk the show.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It takes a whole building. You know, a lot of
shows you do almost the whole two thirds of it,
half or two thirds or third or something. Yeah, you
do a whole building.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Man, I'm looking forward to that. You guys are involved
in the Step Beyond Green. Do you have your own booth?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (04:36):
Now you get Property Inspections as their own booth and
the Step Beyond Green the healthy area and we're partnering
with all their affiliates in there. There you go, and
we've actually got some speaking times, so we're gonna be
doing some things, do for some presentations.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Man, that's awesome. If you go to their website, it's
m K E hgs so MKE Home Garden Show dot com,
you can save yourself a couple of bucks on tickets
and you could take a look at everything that's going
on during again March twenty first through the thirtieth. I
want to introduce Joe with us, Joe Bednarik. He is
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also a home inspector for National Property Inspecting. He's the
guy coming out of the bullpen. How you doing all right?
Speaker 3 (05:17):
I'm doing real good. Thanks a lot for having me
on the show.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, so far, so good. You're how long you've been
with National Property Inspection?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
Been there for six years? Loving it, love a little
bit of outside inside. And you're in Wisconsin, Sophie complain
about the weather. Then you're in the wrong state.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well wait ten minutes. Yeah, that's the old thing. It'll change.
What did you do, Joe? What did you do before this?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
A lot of stuff. I was a nine one one
dispatcher for a while. Garbage man, you name it? Kevia
Jack of all trades.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, and you found yourself a home.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I do. Yeah, you like it a home looking at homes? Man,
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
And I asked guys like you, can you go to
buddies like, you know, you bought a new home and
you just going to walk in to go to like
their first party, their househarming party. Can you just like
enjoy yourself or you looking around?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
You can't help it. You look around, you bite your
tongue a new home or not? I mean, yeah, yeah,
it is what it is.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
You know, there was a while there where houses were
just jumping right and people were waving their inspection. What's
your thought on that?
Speaker 6 (06:25):
You know, it's what it's what happens the market becomes
such a buyer's market. You get four offers on a house,
and you know, one one says they don't want a
home inspection. That's who they go with. So unfortunately that's
what's happened. But like Ryan said, we we have a
lot of eggs in the basket and we do a
lot of other things and we've been staying real busy.
So it's been a blessing working with MPI.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Think before we went on the air, you were talking about,
and I was. I just caught part of it. But
a buddy of yours was either going to buy a
house and he sent you some pictures and you said, no, no,
you got to look at this again. Oh yeah, there
was like a home special.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
People people think brand new homes passed. They usually almost
always fail, you know, and I probably, you know, I
gotta be careful because I'm heavily involved with the UH,
with the with the NBA and everything. But just a
guy send me a pictures brand new home and oh Creek,
you send me pictures? Is yeah, Binger, what do you
think about this? And I go, well, that's wrong right there.
And they's like, you know how much you want to
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fix that? You know you have to this will stay Wisconsin.
You you have to let the contract. He has the
right to cure, you know, the right to fix it.
But just from a picture, if I can see, just
from a photograph. But that's what I mean. These are
home inspectors, and you know the Wahie, Wisconsin Associated Home
Inspectors Organization. They do training every month, right so they
know what they're looking at and that's what they're doing.
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I'm one of the people that tell them that that's bad.
So that's the first thing he said. They want to
just verify that that's you know, a defect.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
Hey, Ryan, from doing doing this show and hanging out
with them, going and talking to guys like you. When
when wife and I decided to sell our house few
years ago, it took me three years to convince her
to move and then she said, I'll tell you what,
you you get everything done because we're there thirty years.
If you get everything up to date and we can
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pass you know, have a home inspector come in and
we can pass it, then we let's do it. So
we had, you know, we had some work done, we
had a hole, we had Creative Construction come out, we
had Randy Miller come out, we had Current Electric come out,
we had dinedvand Jordan's had come out, and we got
everything done right.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
Sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
Well, thank goodness, thank goodness. I yeah, I think I
think a couple of them gave me a deal. A
couple maybe now, but that's okay, sure, Yeah. Mancuso Chris
Mancuso was the last piece of that because we saw
a crack, but because of who my wife is more
than me. Her deal was, let's get everything where we
can pass, and we have a home inspector come out
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and go make sure you look at this or look
at that, and then we'll go ahead and sell the house.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
You know, other guys you just said, those are the
true professionals within the industry. Those are the guys that
teach us as home inspectors were generalists, and those are
the guys that teach us to make sure that we're
not missing those things.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, and going back to the home inspection stuff, it's
you can't emphasize it enough on the importance of a
home inspection. I just did an inspection yesterday on an
eleven month warranty, and you find a lot of things.
It's human nature. A general contractor hires contractors and you
miss stuff, and you know the importance of a home inspection. It's,
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for instance, it could be a really good home, but
there's a lot of backdrafting from a water heater. It's
something you're not going to see when you're walking around
the house. You're looking at you know, is my kids
bed gonna fit here? And is this a you know,
electric washer gas one? But a backdrafting of you know
your water heater is a major health hazard, or if
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there's that proper flashing on the on the window, you
might not see it right away, but there could be
thousands and thousands and thousands of damage just a couple
of years down the road. So by getting that home inspection,
you're really protecting yourself. So I would just encourage everybody
if you can't get a home inspection, be very very
very cautious. And you know it's just something you don't
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really want to risk.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
It's too expensive, don't you think it's If you don't
get it done when you're buying a house, it's going
to end up costing you a lot more money.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Absolutely.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
I mean all houses are going to have maintenance stuff,
and you know, we encourage two post inspections no matter what.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
If you get through the process and everyone understands.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
You want to clean this deal to actually buy the house, right,
But it's something as a homeowner you can have responsibilities.
Those are the things that you want to know about.
And as a home inspector, we're looking for health and
safety issues along with just making sure everything is working.
It is intended to be you.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Know, I a long time ago, my son they were
buying their first house and we're on We're at the
other station, but we're on this show and we had
Howard Rawell from Royal Chimney, and my son sent me
a text like about this time and said, hey, you
know they said there might be an issue the Chimmey
what do I do with that? And I learned out
of the air and Bingo's like, have Howard go over there?
(11:10):
And I go. So they send a couple of pictures
I show him to Bengo. He's like, you definitely want
Howard to go over there. So after the show, Howard
like drove over there, sure, and said, here's the issues.
Either you know, they can take some money off the
price or they can get it fixed, but you're going
to want to make sure that we're doing it because
here's the issue.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Howard is a true guru.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Right, and we recommend what's called a level two inspection
during every time, no matter what.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's just for health and safety stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Howard. I got a text last week from a friend
of mine lives in Hartford and said, Hey, any chance
you have somebody in this industry, and I go, he's
the guy. He's been to the White House like thirty times,
so if he's doing the White House, he knows what
he's doing. And I had her call Howard and I think,
I think it's okay that I passed along Howard's cell
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number and that is office number. And I'm sure you know,
seven o'clock at night, my friend's calling him saying, hey,
we're having this issue, but mcgiffrey gave me your number,
and he's just like, that's fine, we'll figure it out.
But that that saved my son a bunch of money.
And for us to do it, because my wife wants
to be able to sleep at night, doesn't want she
never wants to think that, hey we got over on somebody.
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Let's get all this stuff done now. And that way
we have the home inspector come in tell us anything
else we're missing, so that when the potential buyer, we
can either show it to them or they can have
their own. And that worked out really, really well. I
think people have to understand, I know you love the house.
You know you can wait a month you'll find another
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one you love, or even a week, but make sure
that you're getting that dead inspection. I just think that's
so important.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
That happens from everything, even like outlets. People have an
outlet that they never used ever, right, you ever use
it ever? I guess my guy will check in finals defaulty.
You know, he can start a fire. I mean, there's
things that can happen. And I've been to I've been
on both sides. I've been with the guys. Well, you know,
I said, man, your home inspector should have picked this up. Mister,
you don't want to stand. We were there's eight people
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ahead of us that offered just as much money, and
they all waved a home inspector. So we had to
offer more money and wave the home inspector, you know,
and that's all the ways they don't get a house.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Do you know what was interesting through that process? And
we had Chris Mancuso come up because we saw a
crack in the basement and I said, you know what,
I'm not messing with this, Like, let's just put the
beams up the entire basement. Let's just get them. And
so we had it done and the first three or
four people that came through the house, three of them said,
you know they do a little right up. Here's the
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reason we're not making an offer. Those beams. Well, we
would keep the twenty five year warranty that stays with
the house. And I'm like, this thing is costing us.
And then the next person that came, I happened to
be there and I got a chance to I thought,
if they, if these reallys can't sell my house, I
certainly can't. So I happened to be there and I said, hey, guys,
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see you know the beams, here's where the crack was.
And instead of just trying to fix that one wall,
we did this to make sure that you would have
no issues for the next twenty five years. And they went, well,
thank you for telling us, and they went through what
Chris had left and that's the people that bought the house.
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So it was I'm glad we did it that way
because the people that bought the house walked into a
house that was completely updated in that kind of stuff.
The electrical was great, the plumbing was perfect. The beams
we even moved a couple of things in the basement
to make sure the beams were the right. Well we didn't.
They did. Yeah, yeah, trust me, man Crusso he took over,
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like you can't believe. The funny part about that with
him is he said, look, we once we get all
this pre stuff done, I'll send my crew over at
eight am and we should be done, you know by
you know, in the day. And I'm like, really, I
came home for lunch and they were done and it
was spotlight. I was like, you got to be kidding,
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and I called Chris. He goes, look, pre COVID, we
could take a week. We could be in somebody's house.
We'll spend two hours in this house, go to that house.
Now when COVID had people want us in and out,
they want us in and out. He said, I send
my whole crew. We do we do that job. He goes,
we got two jobs done that day, yours and another
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one down the block. And instead of taking a week
and doing two hours here or two hours there and
sending three guys, I send my whole crew and we
get things done. And he said it's been really It's
made us become way more efficient. And I think, looking back,
I was kind of mad at my wife for making
us go through all those jump through all the hoops.
But when it was done and they brought their home inspectrum,
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there was one our front window that we needed to
make a change with, and we ended up just bringing
the price down a little bit, and they never put
the window off. They just took they took the discount,
which was fine. Don't care, but I think that that's
the way. Do you have a lot of people who
are selling the house that have you out or is
it more people that are buying the house usually transactional.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
The market has changed a little bit.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's softened a little bit where guys are actually able
to do home inspection stuff. So we do find some things,
but we never know the negotiating side. Our goal is
to make sure that we inform our client how the
house is functioning. I always say I don't know the
negotiation siety, and I don't want to know it. I
want to make sure you understand how the house is working.
Speaker 6 (16:29):
And if you're out there and you've purchased the house,
and you know you waived your inspection just so you
could get the house, you know, we do offer post
purchase inspections too, so we could still come in there
look at your house with the same eyeballs. And now
you can kind of treat our inspection as your bucket
list things to take care of. Find out what exactly
is the most important thing that you should stick your
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money in to repair up the house and kind of
just take it from there.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I have people do that.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
Is.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, we're closing on on in October fifth, about noon. Right,
I'm gonna see you at one. They want me right
there because they want me there because they weren't allowed
to send anybody over there ahead of time. And they
know they got to fix stuff and they want to fix,
you know, before they move in.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
And Joe, will you tell them what are you know?
The Hey, here are the first three things you got
to get you now, and then as you kind of
move in, you might want to look at this, you
might want to look at that, But will you star
at least tell people here if you're if you're buying
this house, here are the first three things you need
to accomplish.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
I read you because I get to read paps of reports,
because when the people write a report, I read reports.
So I actually have stuff they'll say like monitor, we
have an area that it looks all right, but you
might want to keep your eye on it though. I
actually we'll point those all.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Two yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
So anything that's you know, health and safety, we do
prioritize that. Defective things it's labeled defective needs maintenance, and
like Bingo said, kind of more monitor. Hey this rough
it looks about twenty years old. It's got a lot
of granular loss. Just a little repairs. You want to
start budgeting because five ten years down the road you're
probably getting need a replacement. But yeah, these things you
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need to take care of right away.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Hey, not bad coming out of the bullpen. We're going
to keep you. We're not going You're not going down
the miners quite yet, young man. Yeah, not bad at all.
Ryan and Joe both home inspectors, National Property Inspections. If
you go to their website, man, they give you a
lot of information on this company. It's n p I
web one word, n p I web dot com and
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then back go to the Milwaukee go to the Milwaukee market. Correct,
Is that what you want to do?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yep?
Speaker 7 (18:31):
So it's actually n p I dash w y dot com.
There you go, hold on, yeah, yep, ye, yep, Yeah,
I'm right on it right now. N p I web
dot com gets you exactly where you need to go
as well. We're going to get to a break. Oh
this side of the break.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Invent. Environmental service is something that you guys are are
all about and we're going to talk a little bit
about that in the second segment, the National Property and
they're going to be down at the Home of Garden
Show coming up March twenty first through the thirtieth. March
twenty first through the thirtieth, and you can meet these
guys in person. The show is open again the twenty
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first through the thirtieth. Closed Monday and Tuesday, but boy
full dates and hours. If you go to their website
mk e HGS. Just google Milwaukee Home and Garden Show
and it'll pop right up. You can save some money
on tickets and get some information on this show coming up.
Excuse me at State Fair Park. We'll get to a break.
Other side of the break will continue talking national property inspections.
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This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement show on
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the kind of music we're playing today. Saint Patrick's Day
Parade going on today downtown and you can go down
and see Creative Construction Wisconsin. It gets some really good
Do you have more cookies? I only brought him just
enough here, so smart are the rest in the car?
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You have your key horun out there. Maybe maybe maybe,
Hey guys, man, make sure you get down to that St.
Patrick's Stay parade and if you're there, yell the Bingo.
He'll throw you a cookie or two and you definitely
want to get your hands. This is a no.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We were told to make sure you only hand them
cookies out. Oh hand m throw cookies?
Speaker 1 (20:15):
You bet? Yeah, I don't have me there. I could
still throw it a little bet, I can still throw it.
Welcome back to the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home improvement Show.
We're coming live from the Dotavan and Jorgans and Heating
and Cooleen Studios at Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's
the owner of Creative Construction Wisconsin. And Ryan and Joe.
They are both home inspectors with National Property Inspections. Hey,
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Ryan Environmental Services. Can we talk a little bit about
that segment you guys obviously very important to you. You
guys are part of Step Beyond Green. You know, if
you want to meet these guys at Home and Garden
show coming up again a little bit later in March
March twenty first through the thirtieth at State Fair Park.
But let's talk about that part of your business.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Absolutely, so one of the things that we kind of
saw calling for with especially post COVID, right everyone was
in their homes and everyone's having health issues and that
sort of thing. So on the environmental services we were
able to think outside the box and people that an't
having health concerns. We take our home inspection knowledge and base,
we go outside the box a little bit for environmental
stuff and we can come in and kind of help.
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There are some folks who do work with some doctors
and they're having some testing of things done.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
What we're able to do during our environmental.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
Services process is actually correlate certain things that we might
be testing for for labs and get some samples back.
They can correlate sometimes with their direct symptoms that they're having.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Hey, Ryan, can I ask you this? We My wife
had made a comment the other day that said, hey,
do you know that we seem to sneeze more in
the condo than we did in our house and maybe
we should get to have somebody come do duck cleaning.
And I talked with Scott Fisher from Donovant, George seeing
any cooling. He said, look, being in a condo, I'm
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not quite sure that we can do that. Are you
guys able to come out and and do like an
indoor air Yes, there's something for ely.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
Yep, there's a couple of different ways to do it.
I'll not actually Joe talk about some of the equipment
that we can use.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, we kept him for a second second. Yeah, I
know you're nobody more surprised than you on that one.
Let's go back to the right of out of the bullpen, hey,
before we do during the break? Eight kids. Yeah, that's awesome.
How old are your kids?
Speaker 3 (22:30):
There's sixteen, and then count down to four from there.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Let's go with their names. Are they listening by any chance?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (22:37):
If so, shout out to Ellie, Alis, Bethy, Daisy Izzy.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
You heard that right. I had five girls in a
row number give.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Me their names again.
Speaker 6 (22:46):
First five, el Alice, Bethany, Daisy, Isabelle, and then I
had my first boy, Abraham, and then Dorothy, and the
last one was Jack, another boy.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's good for you homeschool kids. And what is your
wife's same, Christy, Christy, there there is a special place
in having for you, my dear.
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Yeah, where does like the older ones, where do they
go to school?
Speaker 3 (23:13):
We homeschool our kids.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
That's awesome. Good for you, congratulations on that. Love that. Hey,
so let's get back the indoor air quality, the testing
that you guys do.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
And it's indoor air quality. Isn't a fan with kids
like that?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Be awesome? How big is the house we have a
it's too big.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
It's three thousand square oh mine?
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
For the morning.
Speaker 6 (23:38):
Breakfast, breakfast, lunch, and dinner chores every single day.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
I'd like to be the Pick and Save in your neighborhood.
I'll tell you that, I would make sure that you
were like at a special place for our store will
open fifteen minutes early for you.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
My two oldest work at Pick and Save. That's when
you say that my high school Pick.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
And Saves and sponsor kind of this show and a
big time sponsor my high cool stuff. So yeah, it
brought you by your local Pick and Save in metro
market stores.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
And you know where you getting money to sponsor? Yeah,
there you go, Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
So let's talk about that indoor air quality. And I
think people have to understand the importance of that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
And we talked about COVID earlier, and it's something about
staying inside the house. A lot of people are finding
that they're sick inside the house. And with the condo thing,
it kind of brings up the newer houses too. They're
more tight, so they don't breathe as well. And you know, mold,
it needs three things to groan and to become hazardous.
(24:37):
It needs a food source. It needs the right temperature
and humidity. Well, the food sources everywhere, right, it's in
all the construction material. The temperature they like what we like.
They like between sixty and eighty degrees fahrenheit. The one
thing that they really flourish with is the moisture. They
like it above sixty sixty percent relative humidity. So when
(25:02):
we come in there with the indoor air quality with
our eyeballs for that, we're looking for a lot of
things that have to do with moisture, any leaks from
the outside. We talk a lot about home inspection stuff
that we do in the beginning of this segment, and
we approach the house inspection with indoor air quality through
(25:23):
multifaceted glasses. So we come in there with the home
inspection glasses, We walk the roof, we look for grating
at the exterior, we look for flashing on the exterior,
make sure all the windows and doors are installed properly.
We look for plumbing leaks on the inside, and the
tools we use help us to see the things that
we can't see with our eyes. So we use the
(25:44):
infrared to look for any kind of temperature anomalies, for
insulation missing in the walls and the ceiling, or any
kind of stains or active leaks, and the monitors tell
us for numerous things that are hazardous air quality things
such as for mal the hide, volatile orgain compounds, particulate matters,
(26:05):
and it gives us a reading of all those fairly instantly.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
And the newest one right on, yeah, right on, and
before we're going to get to that, do you know
the first time on any of the shows I've done,
when with with you guys for for this type of show,
we talked about mold and it was with you and
I And was it Sam who came in? Somebody somebody
(26:28):
came in to talk about the work that you guys
did with mold.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Yeah, okay, Well that's actually the whole lady behind the
whole step beyond Green. We brought her in.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
No, this was back at the other station and it
was really all of a sudden. We talked about it
and the problem with with mold and how people freak out,
and a lot of times it can be taken care
of without a huge expense, but there are times that it.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
People and it happens to it. That's one of the
things about plaster. Plaster gets mold, you can pretty much
wipe it off, right. But the problem with drywall is
is his paper is a food source and once it
gets in there, it cannot be cleaned. It has to
be removed people. People do us all the time or
do they think you buy that special paint. We buy
a special paint from one of those from those black
stores that say, you know, mold mold killer. You know,
(27:17):
read instructions. The first thing it says on here it
must remove all mold first. Okay, there is no special paint.
There's only one way to get rid of mold and drywall,
and that's to remove it.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Hey, if somebody Ryan, somebody calls you guys in to
do an inspection on that, can you talk a little
bit about that process. I mean, if somebody sees, you know,
in the basement, you've got the brick walls and you
see some black there and right away they they you know,
kind of freak out because you certainly do not want
all that.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
It's also you guys talk about the white people see
like the white the white stuff on it. People don't
realize what that is.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah, So in the basement, you can't have effluorescence, right,
and it's it can get a little furry on the walls.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
There's line when there's minerals and things in.
Speaker 5 (27:57):
The black and there's too much water can move through
the black and it hits the surface, it can get
a little fuzzy and they can actually push the paint
off depending on how much water is coming through there.
And everyone thinks that it's molder microbio growth, right, and
we try to go make sure that this is not
what this is. So my background is firewater restoration and
one of the things that we all was looking for
for the aspect of and we have hole through a
(28:18):
questionnaire for all of our clients to make sure was
there any previous water losses, Was there anything done, was
there anything that was leaking anything that they're aware of.
It kind of gives us a starting place, but we're
also looking for in basements, is there obvious water staining.
Is there obvious microbial growth that's on the on the
framing air sept But from the outside, we take a
(28:38):
look at the whole picture.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
And you can catch people who are just trying to
They just paint their basement real quick, right to make
it look better. I was told, good luck with that,
because you're gonna get caught to And that's who we
had to make sure that.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
You know, we didn't just try to put as home inspectors.
They can't do this, but they can do They can
call professionals like me or Chris and we can rubble
wall and that'll get a wait for popping on it
just comes guy.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You guys, do you guys do partial mold inspection or
full mold? I'm on you on your website. What's the difference.
Speaker 4 (29:11):
Depending on the client. It depends on what they need.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Some clients actually have some health concerns and they want
the whole gamut of everything where we can do inter
air quality testing and also some duck testing and send
some samples to labs that kind of correlate.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
With how do you test the duck? Get get the
quack one?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
You got to catch the first well done? Hey, you
had talked about the radon testing and obviously it's a
big part what I I don't think people understand second
leading cause of one catch here and you guys do
a lot of a lot of raid on testing, I
would assume, right, we do.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
We actually included in the inter air quality inspection.
Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's one of those things that just we try to
process double elimination and if they have if folks have
them mitigations with them installed, we want to make sure
it's operating properly and if they're not, if they're not,
one is in sold, then we get a higher level.
That's one of the recommendations that we can do is
that they get a mitigation system installed.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Hey, how do you know if if ray is in
your home? How do you like? How do you know?
Speaker 5 (30:10):
And the right kind of testing with a digital monitor.
Some of the things that you can get from a
store or charcoal test, they can come back, they can
be inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
So having a true digital test done by a professional.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's like a mold test. People that do mold their
own male test. If you're not trained, it's it's it's
not it's it's not worth it because I can I
can you know or like, you know what, just a lot.
But you can scam somebody, right I can. I can
get a mold test, open a window and they'll fail.
Really yeah, you can make anybody fail without I mean,
so you gotta be careful especially that's why you're want
independent testers like these guys that don't you know, clean
(30:43):
it for a living.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
Well and look grade on is in something like mole
that you might be able to see correct, you don't
you don't know, you don't know? And you and to
have you guys come out. How often if somebody has
you come out, you know in March, when is the
next time that they have you out? Is that a
yearly recommend every two years, every two years EPA, Right?
(31:04):
And how long is how long does it take to
have you guys come out and do the test?
Speaker 5 (31:07):
The minimum is a forty eight hour test, which we
do a lot during transactions. But if you'd like to
get a true and if you're really having some health issues,
then we can do a four or five day test
and that kind of just gives a better average of
the levels that are going up. Lambingo was saying, especially
in the summertime, everyone knows open up their windows, right, well,
that can create a different stack effect within the home,
(31:28):
and that can actually increase the rate on levels.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
And when you say forty eight hours, you're not going
to stay at my house for forty hours, right, all right, No,
you're a good enough guy. I just I'm not you know,
I don't want Joe bringing all the Doourtina the kid.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
No, he was making a map because I used condo's.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Where am I putting? I got to put Joe's sixteen
year old in her own room?
Speaker 3 (31:50):
And then the other four girl, whoever the food is,
you'll find them.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Well, you bring Abraham.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
My daughter has four kids, all boys by the way. Yeah,
the Bonner voice from from fifteen to three. And I'm like,
you guys know we're done.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
We're not.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
We tried for you know, if we're not going to
have a girl in the first four, I think we're done.
So I love that. So the forty eight hours or
the week, you guys come in and put something in
the home and then come back, and how long does
it take to get to get the answer on what's
going on in the home?
Speaker 5 (32:21):
Then so us we have a fifteen to thirty minute
drop that because sometimes people have questions and that sort
of thing. So we fill it an app to make
sure everything is starting right, and we actually use a
product called Redlink. It's a it's a digital meter and
it sits in a home. It takes all the readings
it's done through the app, and then when we go
to pick everything up, usually depending on the pickup time,
(32:42):
we can have the results within same day or sometimes
within twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Hey, the fact that you guys are involved with Step
Beyond Green obviously a big part of national property inspections
here in the state of Wisconsin in our area for sure.
The environmental service part of it is is obvious a
big part of what you guys do.
Speaker 5 (33:01):
Cor Absolutely there's been a calling for it, and we
like to boast with our things because we take the
home inspection process, but also with the guys that we
have with Jim Ozer, Joe Banark, and myself, we have
over one hundred years of experience. And also Jim's son Josh,
is also part of the company. He runs the weatherization
side of things. So if we find things during the
(33:21):
indo air quality inspection and we need to go a
step further, we can also do lower door testing and
those types of things, So we are the whole package.
Speaker 1 (33:30):
Hey at the Home and Garden Show next week March
twenty first through the thirtieth. If people want to have
that conversation with you guys about home inspection or certainly
the environmental services that you guys offer, it's look, it's
not one of the sexy Look I'm getting a new backsplash,
I'm getting a brand new kitchen. It's not one of
(33:51):
those things. But the background of keeping your family, keeping
your friends, keeping people in the home healthy is the
thing that is one of the things really really important
to your company. And when Jim was here a year ago,
when we brought up that part, he lit up like
a Christmas treat, and it was that servant leadership part
of Look, we're just trying to help people. We're trying
(34:13):
to keep them healthy, trying to keep families healthy, and
for especially with right on something you can't detect on
your own. So let's let us come in. It's relatively
inexpensive to have you guys come in and make sure
that the home is safe, and I and I commend
you guys for that. How much of your business do
you think is that the environmental services part. Is it
(34:34):
twenty percent? Is it forty percent?
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (34:36):
What do you think it's been growing? I would say
the last year of self, that's that's hard.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
But it's been growing, like growing, like but I'm bumming
in a good way, but I'm We got a comedian.
Speaker 6 (34:47):
And yeah, Mike like it's it's something like this radio station.
It's making people aware and I think as a society
we're becoming more and more aware of it. So anybody
out there that you know you're just feeling blah, or
you're feeling sick, or you know you're just not feeling
so healthy, especially when you're at your house, it could
(35:10):
be something related to indoor air quality in your house.
So when we come out there and we look at
the house, we take a whole house approach, and to
even get a little bit more specific on partial mold
versus full mold that we offer. The partial mold is
what most mold inspectors offer. That's we basically come there,
we sample the visible mold, and we're out of there
(35:32):
and offer no advice to you.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
So what good does that do to you?
Speaker 4 (35:36):
I got mold in my house, What good is that?
Speaker 3 (35:39):
Nothing?
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, you're right, Yeah, thanks here's your money.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
We don't want to do that.
Speaker 6 (35:44):
We're not there to just get your money, like like
you said, Mike. We want to help you out. So
we take that whole house approach. We bring all these
other knowledges to the table. We test for the mold
in the air. We also test for the duct work
to see if there's a mold in the duct work,
and that's something. Everything is remediable. So yeah, if you're
if you're feeling sick and you don't know why, highly
(36:06):
highly highly recommend a full mold inspection for more of
an exhaustive what's going on in my house?
Speaker 2 (36:11):
He wake up? You're one of those people that just
wake up with us, you know, with us, a running
nose every morning, and you feel great when you come
home from work. Right, there's a good issue. There's a
good sign.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, you might want to look. Hey, Joe, the six kids?
Who who causes the Who is Abraham? The one? I
don't know why I knew that? Abraham Abraham? If your
listeners sit down, be nice to Jack, be nice to
your brother and girls, Be nice to your younger brothers.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
I love that, Hey, Jose, pretty good. Next time we
have NPI, we just we should just have Joe and Abraham.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, bring Joe. Which ones who talks the most?
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, how old is he?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Old?
Speaker 3 (36:54):
Is he eight? Wonderful?
Speaker 6 (36:56):
But you know what, if I tell you my kids,
go get a star wrench er, fire up the you know, Jack,
you'll know what to get.
Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Really good for you keep t h being homeschooled right there,
for sure, guys, we're gonna get to a break out
the side of the break. If you want to meet
these guys in person. They won't. These guys aren't gonna
be there the whole time, but their company will be.
They're gonna be at the Home and Gardens Center Home
and Garden Show. It's March twenty.
Speaker 2 (37:20):
First, through the evening Present Machine.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, we're going to talk about that on the other
side of the break and find out what you guys
will be talking about. They're going to be part of
this step beyond Green. But go over and and certainly
talk with the guys from National Property Inspections, Ryan and
Joe and that whole team. And again when when when
the owner Jim was here a year ago and we
talked about the environmental services part of this company. Man,
(37:46):
he he literally wanted to talk the entire hour on
it because it was so important to him in this
company to keep people health and also, you know, Creative
will be there too. You know, I know that I
was gonna get to that.
Speaker 2 (37:56):
You know what's number yet, you're gonna be I'm in
the same area wherever he is.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
I'm right here.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
We're gonna be in step beyond Green.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, we're gonna step beyond green with the while with
the all of Wisconsin.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
In fact, Jonathan will be in next week, I think. Right. Yeah,
we'll talk to him about talk about our whole area.
That's awesome. We're going to get to a break other
side of the break again, we'll continue our conversation. National
Property Inspections. You can go to their website and NPI
web dot com will get you to where you need
to go.
Speaker 2 (38:22):
NPI cresta inspector of Crest. Joel, he's a lot of kids.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
He's got a lot. Yeah, we we you know what,
we need to make him some money. We need we
need Abraham need some new tennis shoes.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
Man, Let's bring him along keep yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
You know, well, we'll put a microphone with with him
and we'll let him talk a little bit. This is
the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show on Fox
Sports nineteen twenty and your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back
to the Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show, coming live
from the Donavan, the Jordans and Heat and Cooleen Studios
celebrating their fortieth year as the largest employee owned HVAC
(38:58):
company in the state of Wisconsin. And any issues you
have with your HVAC go to Donavidjorganson dot com bingo.
Emmitts is my co host. He's the owner Creative Construction Wisconsin.
We're talking to Ryan and Joe, both home inspectors for
National Property Inspections. Hey, guys again, the people can come
(39:18):
down and see you and meet people from your company.
How much time you're going to be putting down there?
How about you two guys? Yeah, Hey, you've got you
guys are going to get up on stage and and
talk to you. Do you have that to give us
the dates and times and when people can come see you.
Speaker 5 (39:36):
Friday, uh from one at one thirty, it'll be Beth
and Chris talking about Indo air quality and EMF. Saturday
three twenty two at eleven thirty, I will be doing
Indo air Quality and Friday also myself on the twenty
eighth at two pm into air Quality, and then Joe
will be talking on Sunday, Saturday, the twenty ninth ale
(40:00):
about into air Quality and mold.
Speaker 1 (40:01):
Also, man, busy, busy, you get nervous getting doing any
of that stuff? Oh?
Speaker 3 (40:06):
Absolutely love it.
Speaker 5 (40:07):
Yeah, we're on stage every day during home inspections and
this is a way for us to do education for
the folks, not only for their own homes, but in
processes no matter what we're looking at.
Speaker 1 (40:18):
So hey, and you're not just here in southeast Wisconsin,
because looking at at your website, you know NPA Wisconsin
Rate on Testing it says, look, we've been Wisconsin, Delts, Appleton, Oshkosh.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
You guys moving well anywhere and everywhere. Absolutely you do. Yep,
absolutely a lot.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Of competition in in what you do, but you guys
have set yourself apart and a number of issues, and
one is that whole environmental.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
Services competition and people that just go out there in
just those samples, so here you go, what they do,
there's not much competition because they go that step beyond,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
The step beyond. All right, perfect, well, Jonathan, it'll be
in next week. So that works out really well.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
Jonathan, say one step back.
Speaker 1 (41:04):
One step back. When when when somebody calls you guys
and and they book a home inspection or they have
you come out on the environmental part. Is it just
a phone call or you go on your website fill
out a questionnaire and and uh, what what's the timing
on something like that? How long does it take to
get you guys out there?
Speaker 3 (41:23):
Yeah, I mean we try and work with what you need.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
We understand you know, when it comes to house purchasing,
things can move pretty quickly, and there's deadlines or whatnot.
But yeah, if you go on the line and you
fill it out, then somebody is going to give you
a call from our office. You could always call us
to at two six two six three six ninety nine
nine and we'll take care of you there.
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Two six two six three six ninety nine nine.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:50):
How many employees work at your company? About? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (41:54):
About ten, I'd say, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
Like Ryan said, we focused more on the inspection side,
and then Josh on the weather's station side.
Speaker 3 (42:03):
They got numerous employees as well.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Man, that's awesome. Well, look, you can go on their website,
have these guys come on. And I would highly recommend
if you're selling your home or thinking about buying a home,
if you're going to put a bit on, have these
guys come out first, because look, the amount of money
that you have to pay them to do it is
going to save you money in the long run. I
(42:26):
can almost I can almost guarantee that, right absolutely, here
come a little closer, Yes, sir, you have seen some
nightmare stories of people that haven't done this before buying
a house, and we don't want people to go through
those nightmares. Look, maybe eighty percent seventy percent of the
time you get lucky and you're fine, but those twenty
or thirty percent, it's going to cost you a lot
(42:48):
more money at the back end than it will. And
you can fall in love with the house right, fall
love in the neighborhood. But if all of a sudden
you go you got to put an extra fifty grand
in because you didn't have the home inspection, you don't
love the house nearly as much as.
Speaker 4 (43:03):
You as much.
Speaker 5 (43:04):
We find some significant things sometimes, and somebody might look
like a little problem on the outside, but when you
really understand construction and building in materials, you understand what
might be going on behind the walls. We actually just
had Bingo out for a referral on a home inspection
and he was able to help the client make make
a choice.
Speaker 4 (43:22):
If they were going to move forward with the purchase
or not.
Speaker 5 (43:24):
So we were able to during the inspection point some
things out, and then Bingel came in behind us and
made his recommendations.
Speaker 2 (43:31):
Also, he's talking about US home inspectors. He can't tell
you whether this is a good buyer or not. They
can't anything that's worth it. But they can't tell you that.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know what, if you go on if you go
on their website, take a look at the example of
the report that you get back. It's not a one sheeter.
I can tell you that it is not a one
hear that says, yeah, everything looks great, check check check.
That thing is really detailed and it's quite a quite
a read. When you look at that exact ample of
(44:00):
of what you're going to get back every part of
the home, you'll you'll have an idea on Okay, we're
good to go, or we're not. And I love that. Hey,
I'm a little surprised you're not. We're in green today, Bingo.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
I'm surprised that. I'm glad that you didn't where you're killed.
Speaker 1 (44:13):
Yeah, this weekend when you leave for the high school.
So I put it on. I just don't want to
offend you. Yeah, yeah, I need. I need the son
to see these white Irish legs. I can tell you
that have fun at that parade.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be fun. I'm just I'm really
happy for Sam to pull us the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
Me too, me too. And and the fact that the
horse is uh, the miniature horses is the start.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Let's say, well, they really want our company.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Well, we know the cookies are unbelievable. I'm done with mine.
You've got any more? You want to leave, we'll see
how left or yeah, there you go, run out and
run them out to the car. Hey, guys, thank you, Joe,
it was good to meet you. You did good. You
did good. Say say, give give those kids a hug
for me, and tell your wife there's a special place
in heaven for her. Ryan. So I was good to
(44:57):
see you. Thank you so much. Guys, don't forget you
can meet these guys and people from their company at
the Home of Garden show coming up. Friday starts Friday,
March twenty. First goes through Sunday March thirtieth, and go
to the Creative Construction Wisconsin booth as well and salo
to Bigo. Maybe he's got some extra cookies that he'll bring.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
If we do, I'll bring them there.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Yeah, there you go, guys. Have a great weekend. It's
good to see everybody. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin
Home improvement show on Fox Sports ninet twenty and your
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Karoline Borega married a man of honor – a respected Colorado Springs Police officer. She knew there would be sacrifices to accommodate her husband’s career. But she had no idea that he was using his badge to fool everyone. This season, we expose a man who swore two sacred oaths—one to his badge, one to his bride—and broke them both. We follow Karoline as she questions everything she thought she knew about her partner of over 20 years. And make sure to check out Seasons 1-3 of Betrayal, along with Betrayal Weekly Season 1.
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.