October 25, 2025 • 47 mins
Full show from the Donovan & Jorgenson Heating & Cooling Studio: Saturday, October 25th, 2025
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome into the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show.
I'm Fox Sports Night twenty in your iHeartRadio app coming
live from a very toasty diving in Georgians and Heating
and Cooling Studios. Bingo, you put your shirt back on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Pel Well, well, I didn't think we were filming this.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know what, if I had a camera, I would
I do. It's on my phone, but I'm not gonna
do that. I do, I do, But my legs are
nice and warm. He's Bingo Emans. He is the owner
of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How is your week?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're doing good. So we're doing good. I got a
busy day today and I go home. Inspector found something
I have to go check out and go take care
right away this afternoon. And then after that I'm going
to Shelby. Yeah, has a trunk t tree and at
her dance class thing today.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So far, How old is Shelby? She just turned three
and she's in a dance class. All right, Oh of course,
of course, yeah, and then that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah. So anyway, so yeah, so therefore they invited me
basically a Creative Construction and my truck. Right, So we're
gonna go trunk or treating out of the old forty
two truck to day.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's awesome, DEVI will be with you. You could have
brought deb in with you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, well, I don't know. If she couldn't find the door,
I guess yeah she.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I think she's just avoids me on Saturday mornings and
Saraday mornings.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
One day I'll get her there. I won't.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'll get a text here and mane go and no
you're not, No, you will not. Business is good.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Huh, yeah, it's really good. It's uh, it's it's actually
we're wrapping up. There's a couple of people and probably
might not be able to get everybody wrapped up this
year for the outside work to be first the next
year list. But we're getting more into the inside work,
you know, with all the all the areenes we had
right the inside workers. We're getting behind on that right now,
but we'll get caught up well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Perfect timing to have our special guests in. He is
with National Property Inspections. Ryan, Ryan's prenauci your last name
for me every every time you come in.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh yeah, it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's Eigenfelt Iigenfelt Ryan Eigenfeld National Property.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It's not, but I Iigenfelt. I'm write it the way
I can say it. N pidash Wi dot Com. Perfect
timing to have you in with what happened in August
in our area with all the flood, people are still
I mean at Kerrent Electric, we're still and I do
a lot of their marketing.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We're still getting two.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Or three a week of people, like an yelper calling
in saying, hey, with that flood, I'm having issues with
this in the basement. And there's got to be a
lot of mold issues that you guys are going out
to look at, right.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, absolutely got to be aware of stuff and people are.
It's one of those things too, where people post the storm.
Things can happen kind of quickly, and sometimes you see
certain things and sometimes there's damage that happens that you
might not be aware of and see, and all of
a sudden you start getting some health issues and that
sort of thing. And well, we're doing home inspections. We're
aware of the area that was flooded, so hopefully it's
something the homes for sale, those things were updated that
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we kind of know about that kind of stuff. But
then yeah, people on the healthy side, they want to
take a look at, get some consults, maybe some duckworth cleaning,
things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know ran doing and you've been on our show
a couple of times, but doing a little research, I'm
really impressed. And I know Bingo is because he's such
a big believer in it. But all of the education
and all the certifications that you have in your field,
I would have had to print out two different sheets
to get all that in. But obviously it's something that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You believe in. And you guys with Wahi.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I mean, if you're going to get up and talk
to these guys throughout the state who are involved in
in inspections to be able to say, listen, here are
the certifications that I have. I think that says a
lot about about the importance of them.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's not just it goes in case. He's also in
choed for the state for education for home inspectors.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah. It's a good time, it's a labor of love.
It's a good time.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, and you get paid one point two million for this.
Absolutely not supposed to lie in this show.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But what the heck I thought I give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But obviously that part is really important, and you guys
have an event coming up with while he December fifth
and sixth up in the dells at Chula Vista, talk
to me about what's.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Going to happen December fifth and sixth.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Oh, this is a great event. So every year while
he has two events that we try to do for
all the home inspectors to come together for the state
training for their education for their licenses. So Friday, myself
and Colin stur Rock with Highland Home Inspections, we are
the the chairs to kind of run the education house.
So in the morning we have a great group of
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green inspectors who are trying to learn more, who will
go through and do a mock inspector for themselves. And
in the afternoon, four different presenters at each station in
the house talking about their profession and what some of
the things we're looking for for that.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hey, do you guys talk at all about kind of
the reports? I think that the reports, the inspection reports
that you guys do for National Property Inspections are a
little bit more more detailed than some of the other
ones I've looked at. Do you guys talk a little
bit with whyhi about the kind of things that you
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guys believe for National Property Inspections or is it more
of an overview of the whole industry.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's an over the whole industry. But one of the
things what I love about WAHIE when I started there
almost ten years ago being involved with stuff is he
is the only organization dedicated to the continuing education for
the Wisconsin state standards. Really that's the biggest thing. We
don't do a code inspection or a pass and fail,
it's really dead it to the standards. So that's what
we're trying to push through WAHIE and with NPI, that's
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what we really focus on as the standards and what
we're inspecting and why to help folks navigate through the process.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, on your website there was somebody who had
used you guys over at NPI, and reading what they
wrote kind of jumped out at me. What this person
said about NPI. They conducted a very thorough inspection, leaving
no stone unturned. What stood out to me, and this
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is this person writing was the in depth knowledge and
the ability to explain complex issues in a way that
was easy to understand for me as a kind of
owner now and a homeowner. That part was the most
intimidating part of the inspection, not knowing and not having
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somebody who would explain to my wife and I what
this meant. Because every red flag, we thought our world
was ending and we didn't have I ended up calling
like maybe you I'm saying, look, we didn't have you
guys do it, or the people buying our house didn't
have you guys do it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What does this mean? And what does this mean?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And to have somebody come right out and say, look,
these guys explained it. Because again, when you're nervous, you're
not sleeping at night because of that inspection. You get
the report and there's three things that were red flag,
you think, oh it's over. I'm not gonna be able
to sell my house. And then all of a sudden,
you go know, all you have to do is change
the filter. It's gonna cost you three bucks. It's not
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a big deal. And so for them to put that
on your website, I think says a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, we appreciate it. We really try hard to make
sure that we're not down talking to anybody. We want
to everyone to understand the process. We're looking for and why,
and if something getsn't being explained right, stop it, stop
me what I'm doing, and I'll re explain it another
way to make sure everyone understands. And that's for the realtor,
the buyer's agent and our clients.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And those are the way you explain it. That could
be three different ways to explain.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You got to be pretty nimble with when it comes
to something like you do.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yep. My background with restoration, Firewater Restaurant, I get really
good at giving negative news in a positive way. So
just in understanding who you're talking to us.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, I do a lot with Kellman Restaurant. Yeah, they're fantastic,
what a great company. Yes, yeah, I was there this
week and they are still digging out from August.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Oh yeah, there's it's gonna take several months to catch back.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's the only client I have through the mcgiffern agency
that when storms come, I have to pull everything off
sure rather than increase.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Not even Jordan's equally Kernel Electric Creative Construction was god
sometimes except they're so busy now, but when storms hit,
we we increase a little bit, right, We make sure
that we're in front of people that need them, and
it's it took a whole different mindset for me as
as the owner of mcgiffern Agency to pull back from
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Kalman because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, a month ago I was on a job with
Kelman and they're like, we're only doing commercial right now.
We can't even connect to the people. We can't even
talk to people in residential because they have to take
care of the you know, it is it's like a
it's like a big accident scene, right everybody, a whole
bunch of people. You've got to take care of the
what does the most good.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Hospitals in schools right though?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The two that hospitals and places that make food and
all that kind of stuff. You can't stop the supply
chain whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Incredibly busy and they care a lot about about this
area and up in Sheboygan and it was like Sheboygan
not is busy, but down here they're still just like
going full bore trying to get tegor.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He does old homes. You've been to Sam Sauce, right,
I have, Yeah, he was he was a home inspector
for it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Really yeah, I h I love that place.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, they've done.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Such a good job, and Sam and and and uh
and Aaron then.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
They got it. The Dreams actually went out to the yard.
Yeah it's that old.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah man, Yeah, I don't know when it was built,
but I can tell you that the work they did
with that barn and the horses and stuff really cool,
really cool. Hey for this why he event isn't do
you have to be a member to be able to
be involved in it? And can can somebody become a
member before December fifth and six?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh that's a great question. So you don't have to
be a member to be involved, but we do really
recommend come be part of the membership because really, what
does all of this entails is the camaraderie between the
Home inspectors and other parts of the state. Why we
have five chapters in the state and then everybody comes together.
Guy a trouble from hours away. So you can be
a non member to attend, but we hope to scoopy
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up during the event and maybe bring in a membership.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What's the cost?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And I'm on the I'm on the the membership and
I just haven't gotten to fill the application out yet.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
What's the cost to be a member?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Costs to be a member is around two hundred and
twenty five to twenty fifty dollars a year. But for
the event, if you're a non member, it might be
a little bit of the elevated cost. But once you
get to be a member, you get your you get
your member discount.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And there's a number of there's an affiliate membership, there's
a retired membership, there's an associate student membership. There's a
lot of different ways to be involved with Why absolutely
and how many? How many members do you have throughout
the state?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would say, Binga, we got about three hundred right about, yeah, man?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And and is the goal to increase that number?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
All of us always increase the number for number one
for a look, I know what I.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Want to Okay, I'll just save my plot. We want
to increase this number because this number it does a
great This group does a great job of educating. There's
people out of our home inspectors that don't do the
education and constant learning. In a way, this world is construction.
The way things are going is constantly evolving. You need
to stay up on stuff, stuff that's brand new that's
coming out to brand new air conditioning, systems to the
old house, you know, like my daughter's eighteen seventies allus
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there's stuff you have to know everything from there, and
things are changing so fast. So I like about Wayhi
is a constant education. A second Tuesday of every month,
they make you sit down for two hours and learn.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Stuff, which is you know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
To some people that might sound like a lot, but
I understand if you're serious about being in this industry,
you want to be able to have Wahie after your name,
I would think. And and the fact that you guys
probably do all of the research of all the changes
and then get the information out to your membership, it's
actually going to save you a little bit of time
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if you're a member.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, we can't do like so Bingo with con construction
as an affiliate member, and we cannot do our job
and learn without the guys the contract who are in
the field, who are doing their part at learning all
the new stuff they trickled down to us and once
again on the Tuesday meetings. It's about the camaraderie and
everyone understanding the temperature between each chapter, each location. But
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there's a lot of stuff between Milwaukee that's different than
other parts of the state and we can't do our
job without our face.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know, Like if you go anyplace else in the state,
they don't have concrete black basements. That's only that's only
in the southeastern part of Wisconsin. A lot of people
don't know that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Why.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Why is that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Because back then the unions are very strong and they
forced them to do the concrete. You will never see
a concrete black state's basement get built anymore. But I
mean they forced them to. They forced them to do it.
That's why they have That's why if you go to
out of places there, you know, you go to like
you go to Fine Lock or Green Bay and say, well,
you got to put your level up the basement, and
you're like, what for? They don't have to check for that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
My dad was Rickler and a mason, and he was
strong union back then. And I remember I got a
job at Col's Food stores sixteen. He never picked me
up from school ever. Grade school, I walked, high school,
I took a bus hitch, I did all that. And
on my birthday when I turned sixteen, he was outside
of Mesmer High School and I thought, oh, that's nice,
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is my birthday, And he pulled up in the cold
food in front of cold food store in Shorewood, and
he goes, you go in and ask Bob is the manager,
go asking for a job, and I go, I have
a job. He goes, working at ihop is not a job.
You go in there, and so I go in. The
guy goes, I don't have any openings. The next Monday,
my dad was in front of Mesmer again. He goes,
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go ask him again. I go, he just told me.
He goes go and he made me guy. I said,
I don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
The following week, same thing, and the guy goes, you're persistent,
aren't you fine? I have a job for you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Two weeks later, they go, hey, listen, here's the information
on the union.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You want to join the union. I go, I don't know.
I goent home and I asked my older brother. I
was sixteen right, asked my older brother Tim, Hey, they
want me to join the union. He goes, no, go
tell dad you're not going to join the union. So
I went to the room. He laid me out for
about ten minutes, saying, do you have the union? Put
food on the table, my union puts your shoes on.
You're joining that union?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And my brother laughed, but he was very strong with
with that, and I would assume that if you still around,
he'd be smiling, going, Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's why. That's why all the Holtons are all black foundation,
because because the union was so strong.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Man and he I'm sure that that was part of
what he was doing back back.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Then. Are you going to be up in the Dells
on December fifth and sixth?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes? I will be there.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wouldn't it be fun? Well, I don't know how we
could do our show from up there. I can talk
to Spencer about it, but that we can. You imagine
Saturday morning after you boys are hanging out Friday night.
I wouldn't be hanging out with you, but you boys
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
We could. We could find guys that come and shit
with us.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They have but two times a year, and then it'll
be Milwaukee, probably in the spring or something.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Well, it'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think Green Bay is the next one.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yep, we are doing every fall. The Dells is going
to be an anchor place for everyone to come every
fall of the Dells. But then spring we're gonna bunce
around a little bit to the other chapters.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Okay ye, And then looking on that website real quick.
There's online education catalog, there's pre licensed training. There's a
lot you can get from that website. And it's y
he group dot com w a HI group one word
dot com for any home inspectors or if you're thinking
about getting into that field. What a perfect place to start, right.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's fantastic. There's so much knowledge. We always joke about
the gray hairs in the room, and unfortunately I'm getting
to be one of those gray hairs. I'm trying not
to be. But but just the knowledge from.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Years, Yeah, you know what I like before we take
that picture, Spencer's like trying to get your hair looking good.
I go yeah, and you said, yeah, me too. Those
over every fall.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
When I grow the beard out, it's little bit more
every following a grow the beard out.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, that just means you're getting smarter, I would think, right, hey,
before we get to a break, what business wise for
you guys? Pretty busy this time of year?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, we have been very consistent. We're in a multi inspector firm.
We got a lot of irons in the fire from
our commercial inspections and residential inspections UH into air quality,
mold testing, and then our lead paint risk assessments. We
also have another division for energy audits, which is run
by Jim's son, Josh. And so we're never bored, We're
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never not busy. Work has been, Work has been.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Great, man, good for you.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But right now commercial is is keeping you guys the busiest.
When you when you came in, we talked about this
time here and you said, look back to school. Like
residential wise, it's kind of that shoulder season where we
don't get all that busy, but commercial has been popped.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, you know, even this year we expect a bit
of a long and home inspections kind of the bounce back.
But really this year we were so busy with commercial
we all almost couldn't keep up. Our schedule is a living,
breathing thing that we are constantly moving around.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So are you more comfortable in the residential side you
personally or commercial or does it not matter to you?
At this point?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
It doesn't matter because there's all different types of commercial buildings.
You know, there's even commercial buildings that have a lot
of residential aspects to them. My background, I'm the strongest.
My background is residential. But I got to say, as
far as a team with MPI, the way that we
educate ourselves within house. On the commercial side, with Jim
with his knowledge of architecture and HVAC stuff, there's there's
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nothing that we won't tackle.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What is there types of buildings that you guys, it
doesn't really matter when it comes to commercial, any types
of building, office buildings, warehouse, the daycare, industrial.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I want to say, but they're also what they're really
good at because you know, they're also part of the
whole step beyond green thing. They're part of helping you
find the problems that a lot of people can't find.
The mold, the radiation, the stuff that's hurting you that
you don't understand, you know, to rate on all that
stuff that you fell, the secret stuff that a lot
of people just don't look at. You know, some people
that got sick, they got colds all the time, and
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they're real good at the work of wellness people. And
then they're real good at finding out those kinds of problems.
If you got like someone that's always got the sniffles
in the house or something, that's what they can help
you find.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
It well then and we're going to talk about that
in the second segment. We'll talk about the stuff you
guys do with indoor air quality, and again get back
to the mold. I had asked you a little bit
about the wiring and and the look. If there's somebody
that constantly has a headache and I don't know why,
my wife says I give her the headache. I think
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it's the Wi Fi and there's stuff in our condo.
But you guys checked for that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yep. Absolutely, yep. Jim's daughter Christa, she's our EMF specialist.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, yeah, man, you have specially solved over you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Absolutely a lot of she does talks on it too
at the home shows.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, she does home shows, and she'll be on podcasts
through the stuff here in green and healthy and uh.
And she's our she's an expert for that. But she's
done commercial buildings, she's done schools. She's a little bit
of everything.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And you guys still do a lot of raid on testing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yep, a lot of raid on testing people that are
aware of it, and a transaction deal, it's one of
those things. But we do have some doctors sometimes that
do ask for some special testing if they're going to
go a little bit more in depth with a patient.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Ryan, Hey, we're going to get to indoor air quality
and again kind of go back into the mold thing
because that's such a big deal right now with people
and since mid August. I mean that this has been
something on people's minds and they're seeing things in the
basement now that we need to We need to talk
about any interest in having somebody from National Property Inspections
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come out, either commercial residential. A lot of questions can
be answered on their website if you go to NPI
web dot com, npiweb dot com and look up National
Property inspect and if you want them to come out,
if there's a tab that you can either book an
inspection or a phone number for you guys to call
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if you have any questions. I would recommend go to
their sample reports if you want to see what an
in depth sample report looks like on how they go
about their business. That's a great place to start if
you want more information on National Property Inspections.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We're going to get to a break. Other side of
the break, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Going to talk more about the indoor air quality and
I guess some questions regarding mold and when people should
call to have these guys come out and take a
look at it. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home
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Home Improvement Show, coming live from the Donovan and Jorganson
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Heating and Cooling Studios. They'll be coming out in November.
For me, they go part of my maintenance program and
make sure my furnace is ready to go. Though I
turn it on already and it kicked in nice. But
they come out and they find small issues before they
become major properson.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They're gonna yell at you for as you probably forgot
to change your filter because.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, it's no. They did yell at me for buying
the wrong ones. Though Scott Fisher, the President, is like,
don't don't ever do that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I bought three of them and he said, after those
are the ones, the ones with the ridges.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He said, don't buy you And he said when you
next time you come in, I'll show you the kind
you should buy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Just vacuum the old one off. You be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh yeah, I don't think he's if he If Scott's listening,
he's shaking his head. Don't listen to him to give
her that's what he's saying. And in fact, the woman
that lives in the condo below us, she just signed
up for their maintenance programs so when they come in November,
they can do both of ours, you know, upstairs downstairs,
and get them both done it the same day. So
Pat think of the woman that lives below me.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
She said, yeah that when he come to our house,
they're like, why don't you change your filter last? I
don't know when you were last one?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know, I see I can't because I'm there so much.
And and one of their guys would tell the president you, yeah, man,
the filter was like shredded. You got to tell mcgibber
and if he's going to talk about Donavan.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You pull holes in it, just poke that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
No, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And I think it's good that I haven't had to
call Zach married to Zach to come over and change
the filter, because I know how to do.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That, yes, and I do it correct.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, I don't know, maybe, yeah, they they're gonna yell
at me. Hey, Ryan, we're talking National Property Inspections.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Uh. And Ryan's been here and it's NPI dash WI.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
The does an inspection that those guys do a lot
of the cup of his own. You know what, there's
like a one year warranty when when you build a
brand new home, there's always a one year warranty, and
then you guys come out like eleven months own the
house warranty inspection. Yeah, they call the one your warranty inspector,
which is really good. I'm just a reminder because Zach's
gonna have to do that pretty soon here.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, well, maybe Sack's wife should remind him now that
he's Yeah, do you have any single kids anymore?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, that's it, that's it married.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Look at you smiling.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
In a hurry, Well, I'm hoping that there's a party
for Zach and his wife and I get invited because
I would love to be able to help me discoverage. Yeah,
I'll kick this cug kind of like his daddy. I'll
kick this coverage a little bit. And I both married
women way out of their league. So well done on that.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Hey, when we're talking during the break rind, there are
people that not many, but people will call you some
like somebody like me who's been in a condo for
three years is not looking to sell it, but if
we're having an issue with with indoor air quality or
we we felt like there might be an issue, we
can hire you to come out even though we're not
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either selling or buying.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Absolutely, we take a whole a macro approach to kind
of go into a micro approach depending on what's doing.
We kind of have you go through. We'll talk to
you and fill out a questionnaire some of the different
aspects of how long have you been there, have you
had any proval losses, what are some of your health
concerns going on? And then it'll help us kind of
pinpoint some of the things are inspection, but we take
a whole house home inspection to take a look at
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everything from indoor air quality, are your flues prepper? Are
you drafting propper? Is the addic ventilating prepper? All your
bath fans going to the outside. We take a look
at everything, so it's like a mini home inspection, but
we are doing it on the healthy side.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hey, on the indoor air quality testing. If somebody says
to you, look, I don't I don't really know why
that would be important.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
For us, How do you answer that?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well, that's a great question. So we're coming into the
heating season, right, we're going to be all closed for
several months during We're going to.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Hibernate except at my house, right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You know, even my wife likes to put her her
little heater on in your office and then open the window.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh sure, and then the fresh air, I wonder.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And then every night if she goes to bed before,
she's like, hey, I'm going to have the window open.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'm like, it's seventeen reouse.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm guilty. I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You do.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
My wife she hates that absolutely because she's always freezing.
I'm the hot box. She's the cold box.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I used to be the hot box, and now it's
like the older I get. I don't know what it is,
but I get really cold, and I'm like, really, like,
you're gonna have the window open. She's like, yeah, if
you want to close it, I'll be asleep.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But that's well. My argument is in the summertime because
I have to sleep without the covers because she don't
want the air on.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh man, yeah, I'm I still have the eron sometimes.
I just.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But the idea of having you guys come out is
certainly to protect your health, and I'm on your website,
and I think it's important that people understand, you know,
have this done prevent long term health issues, improve comfort
and well being both mentally and physically. I threw that
in that one's not because good. My wife and I
do argue about it. I'll be, you know, out on
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some meetings and I'll come in and she'll be like, no, it's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So comfortable in my office. I go, yeah, but the
rest of the house is freezing. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I turned the fireplace on and and and to try
to get that chill out of the air.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But she believes that. And again, she's a registered nurse
and she understands the importance of fresh air. And so
she's got the windows open all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
And you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do the same.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
We do the same. We try not to. And don't
get me wrong, I do struggle in the summertime with
being warms. We try to have the windows up as
much as it possibly can. We actually have a competition
with ourselves right now. We haven't turned our heat on yet.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You haven't. No, we we guys still do a lot
of hat a boy, Yeah, got a boy, kiddos.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
All covered up with blankets and everything.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
We try to not to do the same thing at
the m's household, still doing a lot of cuddling.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, there's a fire on. It's the heat. I know,
it's always warm and air for me.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, that's that's good if people have have interest in
having you guys come out and at least talk a
little bit about the import what is the what is
the process? By the way, how long does look?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I mean there's there's there's silent killers in people's homes,
raid on and stuff, and then there's a lot of
backdrafting goes on in people's houses and stuff. People get
these gas fireplaces, they get a Viking stove, they got
the stoves running in this like this, and actually the
hot water tank starts backing up. There's things that need
to be looked at with into air quality and uh people,
don't you know people, there's simples. You know, I get
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headache every morning. I wake up in the morning, I
wake up with stuffy nose and all that kind of stuff.
That's your first indicator that there's a problem that we're
making the houses tighter and tighter and tighter. Right, and
then you get old the house like Sam, you don't
have to worry about mold or anything, because that those
things are so little drafty and it blows it out.
But these are super tight homes. They hold stuff in
the house and you have to you have to be
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looking out for what it could be holding.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, my my wife did make a comment not
too long ago that since we moved into the condo,
she believes that we are blowing our nose a lot
more than we should over on eighty eighth Street.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, And so is that is that is that a
reason to have you guys come up.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
If it's built tighter and you don't have enough air
makeup or there, or the duckwork is a little bit dirty,
there's things that you that that can happen to you
health wives. Right, So if we come into the house
and we find some of the things, we can also
piggyback with an weatherization and also to have a like
a blower door test done in the house so we
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can take a look at all the drafting answers. Big
as it bingals exactly right with some of the When
you turn your heat on and your fans on, you're
creating a draft and you need to have makeup air.
But you could be pulling coumbra monoxide back into the
living space. If you're doing if you had a remodel,
you're not venting things properly, and then commra monoxide that
can make it not feel well.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Do you know they they building the new homes, they're
they're making them tighter than ever. And I think years
ago that that sounded like a really good idea, right
to two people, like hey, if if IF I, if I,
if it's so tight and I have no draft, that's
a good thing. But in turn that that could actually
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be a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Bingo, Right, and then see houses of the old days
when I I mean, I do a lot of plaster
in old houses, right, you know, I tell people the
best thing to do is for us to do your
kitchen seiling like this in December, January, February, and the
houses are so dry. You got nosebleeds in those houses.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But these the way the houses are built now, they
don't really dry out. They don't dry like they used
to because they're so tight. Right, Right, Just just the
cooking that you do in the kitchen sometimes can put
the admitutity up to you know, seventy percent in a
house in January, right, now the old house when we
were growing up as kids, right, you had a midifier
running boiling water all the time, right, big air thing
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blowing cold air all around. We always had a vaporisers
going on when we were growing.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Up, Yes, we did. I was the one that had
to get the water out of do you menify her
in the basement? And that was kind of my That
was one of the deals before I went to the playground,
you know, I I had to go downstairs and and
empty the water thing, and by the time I got back,
I'd have to empty it again. And those I grew
up on Bartlett Avenue, there's an old house on the
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east side of Milwaukee. And yeah, you're right, hey.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
On the mold part, I think it's important for people
to understand and on your website when you go to
that page and sure your home is safe and healthy
with a mold inspector, with mold inspection from MPI Wisconsin.
And I think that people have to understand that the
safe and healthy part, especially with what happened in southeast
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Wisconsin and August. Look there, if you see a little
bit of mold, it's not a reason to move out
of the house and go to a hotel and have
you guys come in, but you should have it looked at, right.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean it all. Part of it depends
on the amount of water and also the category of water.
There's three categories of water, clean, gray, and black, and
really when something is black, it's really about the bacteria
that could be in there. You want things clean clean
and Santaine's probably, but also that point is the amount
in West Auas and other parts of Milwaukee. They had
a lots in failures and told us like that, and
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then you think about the river water, certain things that
get in there, having cleaning sanitized. But now posts like
if someone didn't have anything addressed because they couldn't, now
they're gonna have health concerns coming in. Calmea corporation come
in and do their work and they'll do a great
job with it. But then also cleaning the duck work,
getting those things done and you'd be surprised what can
be coming around, and also being aware of cross contamination
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throughout the home. Depending on the category of water.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I'm glad you said calm again. We talked her
in the break. He said, look, they're they're really good.
I trust him. There are people in in that industry
and in your industry. Not why he guys, but guys
that you know put something onside.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
A really good They just got a really good mason
and a stuckle guy.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Do they? Yeah you yeah, are you part of that?
That group you do a lot with.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, we do a lot with Kilman.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well actually that favorite job we did was that chicken place,
Chicken Wing Place, Tompkins.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
When a car hit that, they you know, tell them
just you know, they just call us and just said, yes,
go or take care of it because it's all our
type of work. It's primer stone and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I'll tell you they definitely busy. The the signs
that you should book a mold test, musty odor, water
damage or leaks, visible growth, and health symptoms and all
four of those. I mean, if you start thinking about
yeah and looking at the shower in one of your bathrooms,
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or you know you had water damage or leaks, the
musty odor part other than me going to work out,
then you know, throwing throwing my stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
In the end, they say there's a secret. Well, a
lot of people don't look at they like you go
on the basements because I see it's when I go
look at basement walls, right, there's like a white fuzz
on the wood that's a mo old. But people they
just don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
What They just wipe it off and they really know it.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
They don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They don't know, they don't know what it is. Looking
for the black green stuff right, Or someone said, hey,
I got a I got a closet, you know, in
a bedroom, in a corner closet, right, want you guys
to c you know, go plaster right. You know they
take everything out of there, and the walls green because
they filed so much stuff against it. The wall doesn't
get chance to breathe.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, Hey, I got a text from a friend of
mine that actually owns a building and his question and
not to get away from from the mold and indoor
air quality, but his question is if he has you
guys come out and do an inspection in this building,
what type of report and you have a copy of
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it on your website and he needs to go look
at it. But it's a really detailed report. And his
question was what type of report is delivered and in
how long of a time after the inspection is done.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
So it's a very detailed report, going over everything from
different rooms, things that we would find. We talk everything
from paragraph writing depending on what we're there's pictures showing
examples of what we're looking at. Sometimes, depending on the
samples that we're doing, it could take up to a
week because we want to give you a complete report
and we're waiting for things back from the lab and
sometimes cultures, depending what we're doing, they'll take several days
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to get back. But depending on the report, anywhere from
fifteen to thirty pages, depending on what we're running into.
Size of building, things that we're finding, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, he owns a multifamily building and he must be
on your website because he sent me a text said, Hey,
I see they do multi family buildings. Jeff, just take
a look at if you can look at at one
of the copies of of how that report looks and
how detailed it is, and you'll get an idea if
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this is the right company for you to work with.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, I got a question too, because I always tell people,
so how do we get questions? Well, you got to
text me, so someone testing me? He goes with the
current marketing editions, are we seeing more of a demand
for home inspections. Those two years ago, people were accepting
offers without home inspections.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
So yeah, market dictates that a lot because it's one
of the things during the home during the process is
you can not have a home inspection.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And well, I know as a fact that people that
have skipped home inspections it's just going to be turned
out the very costly for them. So yeah, enough, people
learn your lesson.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Well, some people are handy and some people are not.
So at some point, even if you have a post closing.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Why are you looking at me when he said that,
Really you looked right at me and kind of gave
me a smart People.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Are some cheap skate to say that five dollars if
they don't want to do a home inspection and it'spend thousands.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Nope, nope, I I don't mind paying the five hundred.
I just can't do it myself. I'm sorry, go ahead, no.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, So with the post closing inspection even yeah, number
one for us is health and safety. But number two
as a homeowner, now you have to think about the
maintenance side of stuff. Maybe there is a partial leak
or or a concern with the roof that needs to
be addressed that you didn't know about before. Something might
need to get done. We're going to help you get
ahead of that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Also on a maintenance side, Hey, how important and I'm
looking at a sample of the commercial one, but how
important is it for you guys to understand to take
really good pictures to be able to.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Explain what it is. I remember the one that we
had at our house. The pictures did not They didn't
do a great job of not only verbalizing and explaining it,
but the pictures. I'm like, I don't see any issue
with that. On your reports, you've got arrows and I think,
in fact, some of the people who had written really
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good reports about your company, one of the things they
said was they've done a great job of the receipts
right to be able to have the photo and then
explain to me verbally and in writing what this means.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Well, sometimes with the pictures, we really tried to make
it easy enough for everyone to understand why we're looking
at certain things. And even when we do an inspection,
there might be a question three months from now, so
we need the pictures in the report so that we understand,
oh yeah, that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So the picture helps them out too, because it's what
they saw at that snapshot in time. Sometimes things happen
and the houses get sold six months later. And he said,
why didn't a home inspector see it? Well, it wasn't there, right,
that wasn't there. I mean you know, the roof started
leaking afterwards, a tree fell on it later. I mean
you know, sometimes things aren't exactly when they're there for
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the home inspector is there for that? That that's that
snapshot at that give them moment of time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Hey, how many?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
How many home inspections not commercial but at home? Can
you get down into the day?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Is that one?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Usually we try to just do one in a day, Okay,
we want to focus on the inspection, going through that
process a lot of times depending on the home, or
anything from three to five hours depending on the square footage.
And then and then back to the office to get
the report rate dumping out the same day.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, And and like Bingo said, to take good pictures.
If you have to go back to it in one player,
you're not going to remember all these houses start looking
the same. I'm sure for you.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Here is Ryan I felt he is with National property
inspections go to NPI dot wy and also they run
wahee which is uh you can go to Yi group
dot com and trust me, if they have three hundred
members or so throughout the state. If you're in that
industry and you have not considered being a member of wyhe,
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look the information you need wa Hi group dot com.
And if you're thinking like look, I'm not that's going
to be really expensive. It's not year membership, you know,
under three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I think for the year.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You have to get twenty credits a year. And while
he will help you get those credits that you need
to keep your license.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And all of it.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What Bingo talked about in the first segment, if you
if you missed it when you talked about every look,
every year things change and if you don't have time
to keep up with all of it, join why he.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Let them do a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Don't fall behind, don't fall behind some stuff that's coming
up that really needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They have a lot of experts. And then but we
also have Randy come on to there.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
There you go one hundred percent. Let's get to a break.
The other side of the break will continue again. If
you want to look up National Property Inspections, go to
NPI dot dash Wi dot com and look, they do
a great job on that website explaining why you should,
if you're gonna hire somebody that industry, why you should
consider these guys as one of the people that you're
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going to want to bring in and trust for the
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Speaker 2 (39:43):
Howre you excited about the race tonight? You know, Austin
Green was racing and I was going to put it tonight.
So when you get done with your trick or treating
or whatever, you can, we have to watch that race tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I will. Can I come over and watch it together?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah? You know what, Just pause it and then we'll
watch it when I get there.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Because maybe nobody easily to be able to see his car.
Oh sticks out? Oh it's pretty pink as pink.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, you can't. Does he got a chance to win it?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well, we're all hoping he wins it. We're all hoping
he wins it and he keeps moves on his career.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
What's his name again, I'm sorry, Austin Green, good old Austin.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, that's what we're all rooting for in our family.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Bran, are you going to watch that race?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
No, we're gonna be carveron Pumpkins tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
There you go, yes, there you go.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
It's the first year. Really, Jason's old enough. We're Carvon Pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
How old is he?
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Five and a half.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It's perfect time.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Absolutely, you got to go and change your filter because
they're coming over.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah yeah, but that's well, Zach's gonna meet me there
to make sure I do it correct.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You're gonna change your filter, so when I when maintenance
guy comes over, it's, oh yeah, it looks nice and clean.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know, we're not big trigger treat fans, but but
when we lived on eighty eighth, that was all the grandkids.
We would put a fireplace out and the whole cops
neighborhood would come out. I felt bad because it was
Saturday night. In our little neck of the woods. But
then Milwaukee it was Sunday and nobody would have their
light because you'd run out of candy.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Oh yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And then Sunday when it's really trigger treat everybody's got
their shades closed and they're not answered the door because
they're out of candy. And people who didn't.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Know that it was the night before, or people from
different areas that just go Trigger Treaty would come knocking
out of the door and be like it was last night.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
This is one of these double weekends. I mean, because
there's trick or treating today, you know, then we're in
Caledonia so that we're at trick and treatings Friday, so
you can you can do a few you can do
a few rounds.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
One of the reasons we had Creative Construction come out
and you guys did the walkway that did our walk
up to our house because it was so uneven that
on Trigger treat kids were tripping. And I'm not kidding.
That's the reason we had. I said, Zach, could you
could you recommend somebody he goes, he will do.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
It for you. They just busted it off because it
wasn't fixing that you weren't fixing that.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Oh, I know it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And Zach was like, we got you and and sure
enough and we had it done I think at the
end of September, and so everything was settled. It was
great and neighbors were like, Wow, nobody's tripping this year,
and I go absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
My lawyer said, you got to get that fixed because
a trigger treat for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Hey, Ryan, what is the process of getting you guys
to come out? And if it was a commercial, if
it's let's go with residential. If it's a residential and
they want you, is it a week?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Is it two weeks?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
If they if they call the office on Monday, how
long would it take to get you to come out?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Usually within find the seven business days kick and we
try to renouve our schedule around. We've got another inspector,
Joe Binirax. We've got two guys in the field, myself
and Joe, and we really try to make it easy
so you can either book online and we're get all
the information online. We will follow up with a phone
call or just call the office too and we'll get
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you booked up that way.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Where are you guys located?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Our office is based them Mount Pleasant, Okay, and then
I'm out of my Germantown office, so we bounce all around,
and actually Joe bounces around between the Mount Pleasant office
and then Princeton Green Lake area. Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I mean that they're just in a big all over
we go all over.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yep, npiweb dot com. Yep, npiweb dot com. And you'll
go to Wisconsin. And I'm just telling you for me personally,
the first thing I would do is look at those
sample reports because they are really in depth. I mean,
it really is understand what you're getting with with these guys.
And the fact that that Ryan said, look, I try
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to do one a day so that when I get done,
I can go back to the office and put all
the information in when it's really fresh in your mind.
It's not like you're doing free and then going to
the office that night and trying to remember all of it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
And yeah, you know, I'm just you know, for my
vaulting from Sam is really picky, right, She's very organized,
very picky. And so who do you think she called?
She didn't even call the company if you just called Ryan.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Directory, Yeah, yeap, oh that home much. I'd love to
see the report on that, because it really is when
you think about an older home and it's in really
good shape.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Aaron Sam did a great job with that home.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I was there for a surprise party for deb and
I walked through the home and I walked through the
history is incredible there. I mean you said it was
built in eighteen eighteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, so it's been around a while.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah. How long did that report take you to do?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Right up? Depending? I think I was three maybe four hours? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I mean it depends on so older homes, all the
different components, things that we've got going on in there.
I was on a one hundred and twenty five year
old home yesterday and there was some very unique things
in there that you can just take a little extra time.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Hey, the last thing, and then we got to get
out of here. I want to go back to what's
going on December fifth and sixth with WAHI Educational. People
that are not members can come up and be involved.
But I would think that if you want to get
fully what why he brings to you, make sure you
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become a member. Look, it's a rounding here, it's you know,
under three hundred bucks for the year and the amount
of information education you get for it.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
If you want to know a little bit more about it,
go to that website.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
It's why he group dot com and and you can
take a look at what the member different memberships they have.
You can find a member and just take a look
at what some of this being a member, what that,
what that includes. And the fact that look, people who go, look,
I don't want to be in a group that I'm
gonna be with my competitors.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's not what this is. You're not competing.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Everybody's learning together and and uh yeah, you'll have some
fun up in in the Dell's behaviorself. I'm out trying,
no bail money, don't be calling.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Don't forget the Infinity race tonight, Austin's race. I am
I hoping for him.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
I am watching.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I'm gonna you call me. I'm gonna turn and watch
for the pink car.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
That's all. Where's the Infinity race tonight?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's a Martinsville. Martinsville the small Wells, the smallest track. Okay,
if you're a race fan, you know that's the smallest
track that NASCAR races on. So it's a yeah, there
may be a couple of fender benders.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Are you. You're not a NASCAR guy either.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I'm not too busy between working family friends.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Spencer is and he's just going to block you off
from her.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, well that's all right. I don't I have already
black Spencer like six months ago. Guys, Ryan's good to
see you again. You guys to have fun the carbon
pumpkins tonight. Take a lot of pictures, because again there's
a great memory.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
I only get us once. Absolutely you've got.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I got a great text from Dev saying she's more
than willing to maybe come in studio next week.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And and I think I don't think you interpreted it properly.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
No, I don't think I did not not no chance.
Quit quit asking McGivern. I just responded, I love you,
and she said love you back. Hey, Dev, have a
great weekend, have a busy weekend for you.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Have have some fun this week, and I was glad
to be Here's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Hey, stick with us.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
We're talking high school football playoff time Level one games
are in the books. Ryan McMillan, the athletic director for Muschige,
will join me on the other side of the break.
This is The Creative Construction Wisconsin home improvement show on
Fox Sports ninet twenty, and your iHeartRadio app
Welcome into the Creative Construction of Wisconsin home improvement show.
I'm Fox Sports Night twenty in your iHeartRadio app coming
live from a very toasty diving in Georgians and Heating
and Cooling Studios. Bingo, you put your shirt back on.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Pel Well, well, I didn't think we were filming this.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
You know what, if I had a camera, I would
I do. It's on my phone, but I'm not gonna
do that. I do, I do, But my legs are
nice and warm. He's Bingo Emans. He is the owner
of Creative Construction of Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
How is your week?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
We're doing good. So we're doing good. I got a
busy day today and I go home. Inspector found something
I have to go check out and go take care
right away this afternoon. And then after that I'm going
to Shelby. Yeah, has a trunk t tree and at
her dance class thing today.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
So far, How old is Shelby? She just turned three
and she's in a dance class. All right, Oh of course,
of course, yeah, and then that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah. So anyway, so yeah, so therefore they invited me
basically a Creative Construction and my truck. Right, So we're
gonna go trunk or treating out of the old forty
two truck to day.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's awesome, DEVI will be with you. You could have
brought deb in with you.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, well, I don't know. If she couldn't find the door,
I guess yeah she.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
I think she's just avoids me on Saturday mornings and
Saraday mornings.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
One day I'll get her there. I won't.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
I'll get a text here and mane go and no
you're not, No, you will not. Business is good.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Huh, yeah, it's really good. It's uh, it's it's actually
we're wrapping up. There's a couple of people and probably
might not be able to get everybody wrapped up this
year for the outside work to be first the next
year list. But we're getting more into the inside work,
you know, with all the all the areenes we had
right the inside workers. We're getting behind on that right now,
but we'll get caught up well.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Perfect timing to have our special guests in. He is
with National Property Inspections. Ryan, Ryan's prenauci your last name
for me every every time you come in.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Oh yeah, it's one of those.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
It's Eigenfelt Iigenfelt Ryan Eigenfeld National Property.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
It's not, but I Iigenfelt. I'm write it the way
I can say it. N pidash Wi dot Com. Perfect
timing to have you in with what happened in August
in our area with all the flood, people are still
I mean at Kerrent Electric, we're still and I do
a lot of their marketing.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
We're still getting two.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Or three a week of people, like an yelper calling
in saying, hey, with that flood, I'm having issues with
this in the basement. And there's got to be a
lot of mold issues that you guys are going out
to look at, right.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Yeah, absolutely got to be aware of stuff and people are.
It's one of those things too, where people post the storm.
Things can happen kind of quickly, and sometimes you see
certain things and sometimes there's damage that happens that you
might not be aware of and see, and all of
a sudden you start getting some health issues and that
sort of thing. And well, we're doing home inspections. We're
aware of the area that was flooded, so hopefully it's
something the homes for sale, those things were updated that
(02:55):
we kind of know about that kind of stuff. But
then yeah, people on the healthy side, they want to
take a look at, get some consults, maybe some duckworth cleaning,
things like that.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
You know ran doing and you've been on our show
a couple of times, but doing a little research, I'm
really impressed. And I know Bingo is because he's such
a big believer in it. But all of the education
and all the certifications that you have in your field,
I would have had to print out two different sheets
to get all that in. But obviously it's something that.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
You believe in. And you guys with Wahi.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
I mean, if you're going to get up and talk
to these guys throughout the state who are involved in
in inspections to be able to say, listen, here are
the certifications that I have. I think that says a
lot about about the importance of them.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
It's not just it goes in case. He's also in
choed for the state for education for home inspectors.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
Yeah. It's a good time, it's a labor of love.
It's a good time.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Yeah, and you get paid one point two million for this.
Absolutely not supposed to lie in this show.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
But what the heck I thought I give it a shot.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
But obviously that part is really important, and you guys
have an event coming up with while he December fifth
and sixth up in the dells at Chula Vista, talk
to me about what's.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Going to happen December fifth and sixth.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Oh, this is a great event. So every year while
he has two events that we try to do for
all the home inspectors to come together for the state
training for their education for their licenses. So Friday, myself
and Colin stur Rock with Highland Home Inspections, we are
the the chairs to kind of run the education house.
So in the morning we have a great group of
(04:34):
green inspectors who are trying to learn more, who will
go through and do a mock inspector for themselves. And
in the afternoon, four different presenters at each station in
the house talking about their profession and what some of
the things we're looking for for that.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Hey, do you guys talk at all about kind of
the reports? I think that the reports, the inspection reports
that you guys do for National Property Inspections are a
little bit more more detailed than some of the other
ones I've looked at. Do you guys talk a little
bit with whyhi about the kind of things that you
(05:08):
guys believe for National Property Inspections or is it more
of an overview of the whole industry.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
It's an over the whole industry. But one of the
things what I love about WAHIE when I started there
almost ten years ago being involved with stuff is he
is the only organization dedicated to the continuing education for
the Wisconsin state standards. Really that's the biggest thing. We
don't do a code inspection or a pass and fail,
it's really dead it to the standards. So that's what
we're trying to push through WAHIE and with NPI, that's
(05:38):
what we really focus on as the standards and what
we're inspecting and why to help folks navigate through the process.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
You know, on your website there was somebody who had
used you guys over at NPI, and reading what they
wrote kind of jumped out at me. What this person
said about NPI. They conducted a very thorough inspection, leaving
no stone unturned. What stood out to me, and this
(06:04):
is this person writing was the in depth knowledge and
the ability to explain complex issues in a way that
was easy to understand for me as a kind of
owner now and a homeowner. That part was the most
intimidating part of the inspection, not knowing and not having
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somebody who would explain to my wife and I what
this meant. Because every red flag, we thought our world
was ending and we didn't have I ended up calling
like maybe you I'm saying, look, we didn't have you
guys do it, or the people buying our house didn't
have you guys do it.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
What does this mean? And what does this mean?
Speaker 1 (06:43):
And to have somebody come right out and say, look,
these guys explained it. Because again, when you're nervous, you're
not sleeping at night because of that inspection. You get
the report and there's three things that were red flag,
you think, oh it's over. I'm not gonna be able
to sell my house. And then all of a sudden,
you go know, all you have to do is change
the filter. It's gonna cost you three bucks. It's not
(07:04):
a big deal. And so for them to put that
on your website, I think says a lot.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
Well, we appreciate it. We really try hard to make
sure that we're not down talking to anybody. We want
to everyone to understand the process. We're looking for and why,
and if something getsn't being explained right, stop it, stop
me what I'm doing, and I'll re explain it another
way to make sure everyone understands. And that's for the realtor,
the buyer's agent and our clients.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
And those are the way you explain it. That could
be three different ways to explain.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Oh, absolutely, absolutely right.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
You got to be pretty nimble with when it comes
to something like you do.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yep. My background with restoration, Firewater Restaurant, I get really
good at giving negative news in a positive way. So
just in understanding who you're talking to us.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah, I do a lot with Kellman Restaurant. Yeah, they're fantastic,
what a great company. Yes, yeah, I was there this
week and they are still digging out from August.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Oh yeah, there's it's gonna take several months to catch back.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's the only client I have through the mcgiffern agency
that when storms come, I have to pull everything off
sure rather than increase.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Right.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Not even Jordan's equally Kernel Electric Creative Construction was god
sometimes except they're so busy now, but when storms hit,
we we increase a little bit, right, We make sure
that we're in front of people that need them, and
it's it took a whole different mindset for me as
as the owner of mcgiffern Agency to pull back from
(08:30):
Kalman because I'm like.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, a month ago I was on a job with
Kelman and they're like, we're only doing commercial right now.
We can't even connect to the people. We can't even
talk to people in residential because they have to take
care of the you know, it is it's like a
it's like a big accident scene, right everybody, a whole
bunch of people. You've got to take care of the
what does the most good.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Hospitals in schools right though?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
The two that hospitals and places that make food and
all that kind of stuff. You can't stop the supply
chain whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Incredibly busy and they care a lot about about this
area and up in Sheboygan and it was like Sheboygan
not is busy, but down here they're still just like
going full bore trying to get tegor.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
He does old homes. You've been to Sam Sauce, right,
I have, Yeah, he was he was a home inspector
for it.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Really yeah, I h I love that place.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh it's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, they've done.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Such a good job, and Sam and and and uh
and Aaron then.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
They got it. The Dreams actually went out to the yard.
Yeah it's that old.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yeah man, Yeah, I don't know when it was built,
but I can tell you that the work they did
with that barn and the horses and stuff really cool,
really cool. Hey for this why he event isn't do
you have to be a member to be able to
be involved in it? And can can somebody become a
member before December fifth and six?
Speaker 4 (09:51):
Oh that's a great question. So you don't have to
be a member to be involved, but we do really
recommend come be part of the membership because really, what
does all of this entails is the camaraderie between the
Home inspectors and other parts of the state. Why we
have five chapters in the state and then everybody comes together.
Guy a trouble from hours away. So you can be
a non member to attend, but we hope to scoopy
(10:12):
up during the event and maybe bring in a membership.
Speaker 3 (10:15):
What's the cost?
Speaker 1 (10:16):
And I'm on the I'm on the the membership and
I just haven't gotten to fill the application out yet.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
What's the cost to be a member?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Costs to be a member is around two hundred and
twenty five to twenty fifty dollars a year. But for
the event, if you're a non member, it might be
a little bit of the elevated cost. But once you
get to be a member, you get your you get
your member discount.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And there's a number of there's an affiliate membership, there's
a retired membership, there's an associate student membership. There's a
lot of different ways to be involved with Why absolutely
and how many? How many members do you have throughout
the state?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
I would say, Binga, we got about three hundred right about, yeah, man?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
And and is the goal to increase that number?
Speaker 4 (10:56):
All of us always increase the number for number one
for a look, I know what I.
Speaker 2 (11:01):
Want to Okay, I'll just save my plot. We want
to increase this number because this number it does a
great This group does a great job of educating. There's
people out of our home inspectors that don't do the
education and constant learning. In a way, this world is construction.
The way things are going is constantly evolving. You need
to stay up on stuff, stuff that's brand new that's
coming out to brand new air conditioning, systems to the
old house, you know, like my daughter's eighteen seventies allus
(11:24):
there's stuff you have to know everything from there, and
things are changing so fast. So I like about Wayhi
is a constant education. A second Tuesday of every month,
they make you sit down for two hours and learn.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Stuff, which is you know.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
To some people that might sound like a lot, but
I understand if you're serious about being in this industry,
you want to be able to have Wahie after your name,
I would think. And and the fact that you guys
probably do all of the research of all the changes
and then get the information out to your membership, it's
actually going to save you a little bit of time
(11:58):
if you're a member.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Correct.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Well, we can't do like so Bingo with con construction
as an affiliate member, and we cannot do our job
and learn without the guys the contract who are in
the field, who are doing their part at learning all
the new stuff they trickled down to us and once
again on the Tuesday meetings. It's about the camaraderie and
everyone understanding the temperature between each chapter, each location. But
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there's a lot of stuff between Milwaukee that's different than
other parts of the state and we can't do our
job without our face.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
You know, Like if you go anyplace else in the state,
they don't have concrete black basements. That's only that's only
in the southeastern part of Wisconsin. A lot of people
don't know that.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
Why.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Why is that.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Because back then the unions are very strong and they
forced them to do the concrete. You will never see
a concrete black state's basement get built anymore. But I
mean they forced them to. They forced them to do it.
That's why they have That's why if you go to
out of places there, you know, you go to like
you go to Fine Lock or Green Bay and say, well,
you got to put your level up the basement, and
you're like, what for? They don't have to check for that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
My dad was Rickler and a mason, and he was
strong union back then. And I remember I got a
job at Col's Food stores sixteen. He never picked me
up from school ever. Grade school, I walked, high school,
I took a bus hitch, I did all that. And
on my birthday when I turned sixteen, he was outside
of Mesmer High School and I thought, oh, that's nice,
(13:20):
is my birthday, And he pulled up in the cold
food in front of cold food store in Shorewood, and
he goes, you go in and ask Bob is the manager,
go asking for a job, and I go, I have
a job. He goes, working at ihop is not a job.
You go in there, and so I go in. The
guy goes, I don't have any openings. The next Monday,
my dad was in front of Mesmer again. He goes,
(13:40):
go ask him again. I go, he just told me.
He goes go and he made me guy. I said,
I don't have anything.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
The following week, same thing, and the guy goes, you're persistent,
aren't you fine? I have a job for you.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Two weeks later, they go, hey, listen, here's the information
on the union.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
You want to join the union. I go, I don't know.
I goent home and I asked my older brother. I
was sixteen right, asked my older brother Tim, Hey, they
want me to join the union. He goes, no, go
tell dad you're not going to join the union. So
I went to the room. He laid me out for
about ten minutes, saying, do you have the union? Put
food on the table, my union puts your shoes on.
You're joining that union?
Speaker 1 (14:17):
And my brother laughed, but he was very strong with
with that, and I would assume that if you still around,
he'd be smiling, going, Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
That's why. That's why all the Holtons are all black foundation,
because because the union was so strong.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Man and he I'm sure that that was part of
what he was doing back back.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Then. Are you going to be up in the Dells
on December fifth and sixth?
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yes? I will be there.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
Wouldn't it be fun? Well, I don't know how we
could do our show from up there. I can talk
to Spencer about it, but that we can. You imagine
Saturday morning after you boys are hanging out Friday night.
I wouldn't be hanging out with you, but you boys
hanging out.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
We could. We could find guys that come and shit
with us.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
They have but two times a year, and then it'll
be Milwaukee, probably in the spring or something.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Well, it'll be.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think Green Bay is the next one.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Yep, we are doing every fall. The Dells is going
to be an anchor place for everyone to come every
fall of the Dells. But then spring we're gonna bunce
around a little bit to the other chapters.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Okay ye, And then looking on that website real quick.
There's online education catalog, there's pre licensed training. There's a
lot you can get from that website. And it's y
he group dot com w a HI group one word
dot com for any home inspectors or if you're thinking
about getting into that field. What a perfect place to start, right.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
It's fantastic. There's so much knowledge. We always joke about
the gray hairs in the room, and unfortunately I'm getting
to be one of those gray hairs. I'm trying not
to be. But but just the knowledge from.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Years, Yeah, you know what I like before we take
that picture, Spencer's like trying to get your hair looking good.
I go yeah, and you said, yeah, me too. Those
over every fall.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
When I grow the beard out, it's little bit more
every following a grow the beard out.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, that just means you're getting smarter, I would think, right, hey,
before we get to a break, what business wise for
you guys? Pretty busy this time of year?
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Yeah, we have been very consistent. We're in a multi inspector firm.
We got a lot of irons in the fire from
our commercial inspections and residential inspections UH into air quality,
mold testing, and then our lead paint risk assessments. We
also have another division for energy audits, which is run
by Jim's son, Josh. And so we're never bored, We're
(16:32):
never not busy. Work has been, Work has been.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Great, man, good for you.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
But right now commercial is is keeping you guys the busiest.
When you when you came in, we talked about this
time here and you said, look back to school. Like
residential wise, it's kind of that shoulder season where we
don't get all that busy, but commercial has been popped.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Yeah, you know, even this year we expect a bit
of a long and home inspections kind of the bounce back.
But really this year we were so busy with commercial
we all almost couldn't keep up. Our schedule is a living,
breathing thing that we are constantly moving around.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
So are you more comfortable in the residential side you
personally or commercial or does it not matter to you?
At this point?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
It doesn't matter because there's all different types of commercial buildings.
You know, there's even commercial buildings that have a lot
of residential aspects to them. My background, I'm the strongest.
My background is residential. But I got to say, as
far as a team with MPI, the way that we
educate ourselves within house. On the commercial side, with Jim
with his knowledge of architecture and HVAC stuff, there's there's
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nothing that we won't tackle.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What is there types of buildings that you guys, it
doesn't really matter when it comes to commercial, any types
of building, office buildings, warehouse, the daycare, industrial.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
I want to say, but they're also what they're really
good at because you know, they're also part of the
whole step beyond green thing. They're part of helping you
find the problems that a lot of people can't find.
The mold, the radiation, the stuff that's hurting you that
you don't understand, you know, to rate on all that
stuff that you fell, the secret stuff that a lot
of people just don't look at. You know, some people
that got sick, they got colds all the time, and
(18:10):
they're real good at the work of wellness people. And
then they're real good at finding out those kinds of problems.
If you got like someone that's always got the sniffles
in the house or something, that's what they can help
you find.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
It well then and we're going to talk about that
in the second segment. We'll talk about the stuff you
guys do with indoor air quality, and again get back
to the mold. I had asked you a little bit
about the wiring and and the look. If there's somebody
that constantly has a headache and I don't know why,
my wife says I give her the headache. I think
(18:40):
it's the Wi Fi and there's stuff in our condo.
But you guys checked for that as well.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Yep. Absolutely, yep. Jim's daughter Christa, she's our EMF specialist.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Okay, yeah, man, you have specially solved over you.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
Absolutely a lot of she does talks on it too
at the home shows.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Yeah, she does home shows, and she'll be on podcasts
through the stuff here in green and healthy and uh.
And she's our she's an expert for that. But she's
done commercial buildings, she's done schools. She's a little bit
of everything.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And you guys still do a lot of raid on testing.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
Yep, a lot of raid on testing people that are
aware of it, and a transaction deal, it's one of
those things. But we do have some doctors sometimes that
do ask for some special testing if they're going to
go a little bit more in depth with a patient.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Ryan, Hey, we're going to get to indoor air quality
and again kind of go back into the mold thing
because that's such a big deal right now with people
and since mid August. I mean that this has been
something on people's minds and they're seeing things in the
basement now that we need to We need to talk
about any interest in having somebody from National Property Inspections
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come out, either commercial residential. A lot of questions can
be answered on their website if you go to NPI
web dot com, npiweb dot com and look up National
Property inspect and if you want them to come out,
if there's a tab that you can either book an
inspection or a phone number for you guys to call
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if you have any questions. I would recommend go to
their sample reports if you want to see what an
in depth sample report looks like on how they go
about their business. That's a great place to start if
you want more information on National Property Inspections.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
We're going to get to a break. Other side of
the break, we're.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Going to talk more about the indoor air quality and
I guess some questions regarding mold and when people should
call to have these guys come out and take a
look at it. This is the Creative Construction Wisconsin Home
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Heating and Cooling Studios. They'll be coming out in November.
For me, they go part of my maintenance program and
make sure my furnace is ready to go. Though I
turn it on already and it kicked in nice. But
they come out and they find small issues before they
become major properson.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
They're gonna yell at you for as you probably forgot
to change your filter because.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
No, it's no. They did yell at me for buying
the wrong ones. Though Scott Fisher, the President, is like,
don't don't ever do that.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
I bought three of them and he said, after those
are the ones, the ones with the ridges.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
He said, don't buy you And he said when you
next time you come in, I'll show you the kind
you should buy.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Just vacuum the old one off. You be fine.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
Oh yeah, I don't think he's if he If Scott's listening,
he's shaking his head. Don't listen to him to give
her that's what he's saying. And in fact, the woman
that lives in the condo below us, she just signed
up for their maintenance programs so when they come in November,
they can do both of ours, you know, upstairs downstairs,
and get them both done it the same day. So
Pat think of the woman that lives below me.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
She said, yeah that when he come to our house,
they're like, why don't you change your filter last? I
don't know when you were last one?
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know, I see I can't because I'm there so much.
And and one of their guys would tell the president you, yeah, man,
the filter was like shredded. You got to tell mcgibber
and if he's going to talk about Donavan.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
You pull holes in it, just poke that.
Speaker 3 (22:08):
No, I can't do that.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
And I think it's good that I haven't had to
call Zach married to Zach to come over and change
the filter, because I know how to do.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
That, yes, and I do it correct.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
Well, I don't know, maybe, yeah, they they're gonna yell
at me. Hey, Ryan, we're talking National Property Inspections.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Uh. And Ryan's been here and it's NPI dash WI.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
The does an inspection that those guys do a lot
of the cup of his own. You know what, there's
like a one year warranty when when you build a
brand new home, there's always a one year warranty, and
then you guys come out like eleven months own the
house warranty inspection. Yeah, they call the one your warranty inspector,
which is really good. I'm just a reminder because Zach's
gonna have to do that pretty soon here.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Yeah, well, maybe Sack's wife should remind him now that
he's Yeah, do you have any single kids anymore?
Speaker 2 (22:58):
No, that's it, that's it married.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Look at you smiling.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
That that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
In a hurry, Well, I'm hoping that there's a party
for Zach and his wife and I get invited because
I would love to be able to help me discoverage. Yeah,
I'll kick this cug kind of like his daddy. I'll
kick this coverage a little bit. And I both married
women way out of their league. So well done on that.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
Hey, when we're talking during the break rind, there are
people that not many, but people will call you some
like somebody like me who's been in a condo for
three years is not looking to sell it, but if
we're having an issue with with indoor air quality or
we we felt like there might be an issue, we
can hire you to come out even though we're not
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either selling or buying.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Absolutely, we take a whole a macro approach to kind
of go into a micro approach depending on what's doing.
We kind of have you go through. We'll talk to
you and fill out a questionnaire some of the different
aspects of how long have you been there, have you
had any proval losses, what are some of your health
concerns going on? And then it'll help us kind of
pinpoint some of the things are inspection, but we take
a whole house home inspection to take a look at
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everything from indoor air quality, are your flues prepper? Are
you drafting propper? Is the addic ventilating prepper? All your
bath fans going to the outside. We take a look
at everything, so it's like a mini home inspection, but
we are doing it on the healthy side.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Hey, on the indoor air quality testing. If somebody says
to you, look, I don't I don't really know why
that would be important.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
For us, How do you answer that?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Well, that's a great question. So we're coming into the
heating season, right, we're going to be all closed for
several months during We're going to.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Hibernate except at my house, right.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
You know, even my wife likes to put her her
little heater on in your office and then open the window.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Oh sure, and then the fresh air, I wonder.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
And then every night if she goes to bed before,
she's like, hey, I'm going to have the window open.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I'm like, it's seventeen reouse.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I'm guilty. I'm guilty.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You do.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
My wife she hates that absolutely because she's always freezing.
I'm the hot box. She's the cold box.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
I used to be the hot box, and now it's
like the older I get. I don't know what it is,
but I get really cold, and I'm like, really, like,
you're gonna have the window open. She's like, yeah, if
you want to close it, I'll be asleep.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
But that's well. My argument is in the summertime because
I have to sleep without the covers because she don't
want the air on.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Oh man, yeah, I'm I still have the eron sometimes.
I just.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
But the idea of having you guys come out is
certainly to protect your health, and I'm on your website,
and I think it's important that people understand, you know,
have this done prevent long term health issues, improve comfort
and well being both mentally and physically. I threw that
in that one's not because good. My wife and I
do argue about it. I'll be, you know, out on
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some meetings and I'll come in and she'll be like, no, it's.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
So comfortable in my office. I go, yeah, but the
rest of the house is freezing. You know.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
I turned the fireplace on and and and to try
to get that chill out of the air.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
But she believes that. And again, she's a registered nurse
and she understands the importance of fresh air. And so
she's got the windows open all the time.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
And you.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do the same.
Speaker 4 (26:21):
We do the same. We try not to. And don't
get me wrong, I do struggle in the summertime with
being warms. We try to have the windows up as
much as it possibly can. We actually have a competition
with ourselves right now. We haven't turned our heat on yet.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
You haven't. No, we we guys still do a lot
of hat a boy, Yeah, got a boy, kiddos.
Speaker 4 (26:41):
All covered up with blankets and everything.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
We try to not to do the same thing at
the m's household, still doing a lot of cuddling.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yeah, there's a fire on. It's the heat. I know,
it's always warm and air for me.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Well, that's that's good if people have have interest in
having you guys come out and at least talk a
little bit about the import what is the what is
the process? By the way, how long does look?
Speaker 2 (27:05):
I mean there's there's there's silent killers in people's homes,
raid on and stuff, and then there's a lot of
backdrafting goes on in people's houses and stuff. People get
these gas fireplaces, they get a Viking stove, they got
the stoves running in this like this, and actually the
hot water tank starts backing up. There's things that need
to be looked at with into air quality and uh people,
don't you know people, there's simples. You know, I get
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headache every morning. I wake up in the morning, I
wake up with stuffy nose and all that kind of stuff.
That's your first indicator that there's a problem that we're
making the houses tighter and tighter and tighter. Right, and
then you get old the house like Sam, you don't
have to worry about mold or anything, because that those
things are so little drafty and it blows it out.
But these are super tight homes. They hold stuff in
the house and you have to you have to be
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looking out for what it could be holding.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
You know, my my wife did make a comment not
too long ago that since we moved into the condo,
she believes that we are blowing our nose a lot
more than we should over on eighty eighth Street.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Okay, And so is that is that is that a
reason to have you guys come up.
Speaker 4 (28:06):
If it's built tighter and you don't have enough air
makeup or there, or the duckwork is a little bit dirty,
there's things that you that that can happen to you
health wives. Right, So if we come into the house
and we find some of the things, we can also
piggyback with an weatherization and also to have a like
a blower door test done in the house so we
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can take a look at all the drafting answers. Big
as it bingals exactly right with some of the When
you turn your heat on and your fans on, you're
creating a draft and you need to have makeup air.
But you could be pulling coumbra monoxide back into the
living space. If you're doing if you had a remodel,
you're not venting things properly, and then commra monoxide that
can make it not feel well.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Do you know they they building the new homes, they're
they're making them tighter than ever. And I think years
ago that that sounded like a really good idea, right
to two people, like hey, if if IF I, if I,
if it's so tight and I have no draft, that's
a good thing. But in turn that that could actually
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be a bad thing.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
Bingo, Right, and then see houses of the old days
when I I mean, I do a lot of plaster
in old houses, right, you know, I tell people the
best thing to do is for us to do your
kitchen seiling like this in December, January, February, and the
houses are so dry. You got nosebleeds in those houses.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Right.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
But these the way the houses are built now, they
don't really dry out. They don't dry like they used
to because they're so tight. Right, Right, Just just the
cooking that you do in the kitchen sometimes can put
the admitutity up to you know, seventy percent in a
house in January, right, now the old house when we
were growing up as kids, right, you had a midifier
running boiling water all the time, right, big air thing
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blowing cold air all around. We always had a vaporisers
going on when we were growing.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Up, Yes, we did. I was the one that had
to get the water out of do you menify her
in the basement? And that was kind of my That
was one of the deals before I went to the playground,
you know, I I had to go downstairs and and
empty the water thing, and by the time I got back,
I'd have to empty it again. And those I grew
up on Bartlett Avenue, there's an old house on the
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east side of Milwaukee. And yeah, you're right, hey.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
On the mold part, I think it's important for people
to understand and on your website when you go to
that page and sure your home is safe and healthy
with a mold inspector, with mold inspection from MPI Wisconsin.
And I think that people have to understand that the
safe and healthy part, especially with what happened in southeast
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Wisconsin and August. Look there, if you see a little
bit of mold, it's not a reason to move out
of the house and go to a hotel and have
you guys come in, but you should have it looked at, right.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean it all. Part of it depends
on the amount of water and also the category of water.
There's three categories of water, clean, gray, and black, and
really when something is black, it's really about the bacteria
that could be in there. You want things clean clean
and Santaine's probably, but also that point is the amount
in West Auas and other parts of Milwaukee. They had
a lots in failures and told us like that, and
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then you think about the river water, certain things that
get in there, having cleaning sanitized. But now posts like
if someone didn't have anything addressed because they couldn't, now
they're gonna have health concerns coming in. Calmea corporation come
in and do their work and they'll do a great
job with it. But then also cleaning the duck work,
getting those things done and you'd be surprised what can
be coming around, and also being aware of cross contamination
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throughout the home. Depending on the category of water.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
Yeah, I'm glad you said calm again. We talked her
in the break. He said, look, they're they're really good.
I trust him. There are people in in that industry
and in your industry. Not why he guys, but guys
that you know put something onside.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
A really good They just got a really good mason
and a stuckle guy.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
Do they? Yeah you yeah, are you part of that?
That group you do a lot with.
Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yeah, we do a lot with Kilman.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Well actually that favorite job we did was that chicken place,
Chicken Wing Place, Tompkins.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yep. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
When a car hit that, they you know, tell them
just you know, they just call us and just said, yes,
go or take care of it because it's all our
type of work. It's primer stone and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Yeah, I'll tell you they definitely busy. The the signs
that you should book a mold test, musty odor, water
damage or leaks, visible growth, and health symptoms and all
four of those. I mean, if you start thinking about
yeah and looking at the shower in one of your bathrooms,
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or you know you had water damage or leaks, the
musty odor part other than me going to work out,
then you know, throwing throwing my stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
In the end, they say there's a secret. Well, a
lot of people don't look at they like you go
on the basements because I see it's when I go
look at basement walls, right, there's like a white fuzz
on the wood that's a mo old. But people they
just don't know.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
What They just wipe it off and they really know it.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
They don't know what it is.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
They don't know, they don't know what it is. Looking
for the black green stuff right, Or someone said, hey,
I got a I got a closet, you know, in
a bedroom, in a corner closet, right, want you guys
to c you know, go plaster right. You know they
take everything out of there, and the walls green because
they filed so much stuff against it. The wall doesn't
get chance to breathe.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Yeah, Hey, I got a text from a friend of
mine that actually owns a building and his question and
not to get away from from the mold and indoor
air quality, but his question is if he has you
guys come out and do an inspection in this building,
what type of report and you have a copy of
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it on your website and he needs to go look
at it. But it's a really detailed report. And his
question was what type of report is delivered and in
how long of a time after the inspection is done.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
So it's a very detailed report, going over everything from
different rooms, things that we would find. We talk everything
from paragraph writing depending on what we're there's pictures showing
examples of what we're looking at. Sometimes, depending on the
samples that we're doing, it could take up to a
week because we want to give you a complete report
and we're waiting for things back from the lab and
sometimes cultures, depending what we're doing, they'll take several days
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to get back. But depending on the report, anywhere from
fifteen to thirty pages, depending on what we're running into.
Size of building, things that we're finding, that sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Yeah, he owns a multifamily building and he must be
on your website because he sent me a text said, Hey,
I see they do multi family buildings. Jeff, just take
a look at if you can look at at one
of the copies of of how that report looks and
how detailed it is, and you'll get an idea if
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this is the right company for you to work with.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
Yeah, I got a question too, because I always tell people,
so how do we get questions? Well, you got to
text me, so someone testing me? He goes with the
current marketing editions, are we seeing more of a demand
for home inspections. Those two years ago, people were accepting
offers without home inspections.
Speaker 4 (34:58):
So yeah, market dictates that a lot because it's one
of the things during the home during the process is
you can not have a home inspection.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
And well, I know as a fact that people that
have skipped home inspections it's just going to be turned
out the very costly for them. So yeah, enough, people
learn your lesson.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
Well, some people are handy and some people are not.
So at some point, even if you have a post closing.
Speaker 1 (35:20):
Why are you looking at me when he said that,
Really you looked right at me and kind of gave
me a smart People.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Are some cheap skate to say that five dollars if
they don't want to do a home inspection and it'spend thousands.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Nope, nope, I I don't mind paying the five hundred.
I just can't do it myself. I'm sorry, go ahead, no.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No, So with the post closing inspection even yeah, number
one for us is health and safety. But number two
as a homeowner, now you have to think about the
maintenance side of stuff. Maybe there is a partial leak
or or a concern with the roof that needs to
be addressed that you didn't know about before. Something might
need to get done. We're going to help you get
ahead of that.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Also on a maintenance side, Hey, how important and I'm
looking at a sample of the commercial one, but how
important is it for you guys to understand to take
really good pictures to be able to.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Explain what it is. I remember the one that we
had at our house. The pictures did not They didn't
do a great job of not only verbalizing and explaining it,
but the pictures. I'm like, I don't see any issue
with that. On your reports, you've got arrows and I think,
in fact, some of the people who had written really
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good reports about your company, one of the things they
said was they've done a great job of the receipts
right to be able to have the photo and then
explain to me verbally and in writing what this means.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
Well, sometimes with the pictures, we really tried to make
it easy enough for everyone to understand why we're looking
at certain things. And even when we do an inspection,
there might be a question three months from now, so
we need the pictures in the report so that we understand,
oh yeah, that's what we were talking about.
Speaker 2 (37:01):
So the picture helps them out too, because it's what
they saw at that snapshot in time. Sometimes things happen
and the houses get sold six months later. And he said,
why didn't a home inspector see it? Well, it wasn't there, right,
that wasn't there. I mean you know, the roof started
leaking afterwards, a tree fell on it later. I mean
you know, sometimes things aren't exactly when they're there for
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the home inspector is there for that? That that's that
snapshot at that give them moment of time.
Speaker 3 (37:25):
Hey, how many?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
How many home inspections not commercial but at home? Can
you get down into the day?
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Is that one?
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Usually we try to just do one in a day, Okay,
we want to focus on the inspection, going through that
process a lot of times depending on the home, or
anything from three to five hours depending on the square footage.
And then and then back to the office to get
the report rate dumping out the same day.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, And and like Bingo said, to take good pictures.
If you have to go back to it in one player,
you're not going to remember all these houses start looking
the same. I'm sure for you.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Here is Ryan I felt he is with National property
inspections go to NPI dot wy and also they run
wahee which is uh you can go to Yi group
dot com and trust me, if they have three hundred
members or so throughout the state. If you're in that
industry and you have not considered being a member of wyhe,
(38:17):
look the information you need wa Hi group dot com.
And if you're thinking like look, I'm not that's going
to be really expensive. It's not year membership, you know,
under three hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
I think for the year.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
You have to get twenty credits a year. And while
he will help you get those credits that you need
to keep your license.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
And all of it.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
What Bingo talked about in the first segment, if you
if you missed it when you talked about every look,
every year things change and if you don't have time
to keep up with all of it, join why he.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
Let them do a little bit of that.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Don't fall behind, don't fall behind some stuff that's coming
up that really needs to be addressed.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
They have a lot of experts. And then but we
also have Randy come on to there.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
There you go one hundred percent. Let's get to a break.
The other side of the break will continue again. If
you want to look up National Property Inspections, go to
NPI dot dash Wi dot com and look, they do
a great job on that website explaining why you should,
if you're gonna hire somebody that industry, why you should
consider these guys as one of the people that you're
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going to want to bring in and trust for the
report that they're going to give you. This is the
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Speaker 2 (39:43):
Howre you excited about the race tonight? You know, Austin
Green was racing and I was going to put it tonight.
So when you get done with your trick or treating
or whatever, you can, we have to watch that race tonight.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I will. Can I come over and watch it together?
Speaker 4 (39:56):
Right?
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah? You know what, Just pause it and then we'll
watch it when I get there.
Speaker 2 (40:01):
Because maybe nobody easily to be able to see his car.
Oh sticks out? Oh it's pretty pink as pink.
Speaker 3 (40:07):
Yeah, you can't. Does he got a chance to win it?
Speaker 2 (40:10):
Well, we're all hoping he wins it. We're all hoping
he wins it and he keeps moves on his career.
Speaker 3 (40:13):
What's his name again, I'm sorry, Austin Green, good old Austin.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, that's what we're all rooting for in our family.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
Bran, are you going to watch that race?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
No, we're gonna be carveron Pumpkins tonight.
Speaker 3 (40:23):
There you go, yes, there you go.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
It's the first year. Really, Jason's old enough. We're Carvon Pumpkins.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
How old is he?
Speaker 4 (40:30):
Five and a half.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
It's perfect time.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Absolutely, you got to go and change your filter because
they're coming over.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Yeah yeah, but that's well, Zach's gonna meet me there
to make sure I do it correct.
Speaker 2 (40:41):
You're gonna change your filter, so when I when maintenance
guy comes over, it's, oh yeah, it looks nice and clean.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know, we're not big trigger treat fans, but but
when we lived on eighty eighth, that was all the grandkids.
We would put a fireplace out and the whole cops
neighborhood would come out. I felt bad because it was
Saturday night. In our little neck of the woods. But
then Milwaukee it was Sunday and nobody would have their
light because you'd run out of candy.
Speaker 4 (41:05):
Oh yeah, right.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
And then Sunday when it's really trigger treat everybody's got
their shades closed and they're not answered the door because
they're out of candy. And people who didn't.
Speaker 1 (41:15):
Know that it was the night before, or people from
different areas that just go Trigger Treaty would come knocking
out of the door and be like it was last night.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
This is one of these double weekends. I mean, because
there's trick or treating today, you know, then we're in
Caledonia so that we're at trick and treatings Friday, so
you can you can do a few you can do
a few rounds.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You know.
Speaker 1 (41:32):
One of the reasons we had Creative Construction come out
and you guys did the walkway that did our walk
up to our house because it was so uneven that
on Trigger treat kids were tripping. And I'm not kidding.
That's the reason we had. I said, Zach, could you
could you recommend somebody he goes, he will do.
Speaker 2 (41:51):
It for you. They just busted it off because it
wasn't fixing that you weren't fixing that.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
Oh, I know it.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
And Zach was like, we got you and and sure
enough and we had it done I think at the
end of September, and so everything was settled. It was
great and neighbors were like, Wow, nobody's tripping this year,
and I go absolutely.
Speaker 3 (42:10):
My lawyer said, you got to get that fixed because
a trigger treat for sure.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Hey, Ryan, what is the process of getting you guys
to come out? And if it was a commercial, if
it's let's go with residential. If it's a residential and
they want you, is it a week?
Speaker 3 (42:27):
Is it two weeks?
Speaker 1 (42:28):
If they if they call the office on Monday, how
long would it take to get you to come out?
Speaker 4 (42:33):
Usually within find the seven business days kick and we
try to renouve our schedule around. We've got another inspector,
Joe Binirax. We've got two guys in the field, myself
and Joe, and we really try to make it easy
so you can either book online and we're get all
the information online. We will follow up with a phone
call or just call the office too and we'll get
(42:53):
you booked up that way.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
Where are you guys located?
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Our office is based them Mount Pleasant, Okay, and then
I'm out of my Germantown office, so we bounce all around,
and actually Joe bounces around between the Mount Pleasant office
and then Princeton Green Lake area. Okay.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
I mean that they're just in a big all over
we go all over.
Speaker 4 (43:10):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Yep, npiweb dot com. Yep, npiweb dot com. And you'll
go to Wisconsin. And I'm just telling you for me personally,
the first thing I would do is look at those
sample reports because they are really in depth. I mean,
it really is understand what you're getting with with these guys.
And the fact that that Ryan said, look, I try
(43:32):
to do one a day so that when I get done,
I can go back to the office and put all
the information in when it's really fresh in your mind.
It's not like you're doing free and then going to
the office that night and trying to remember all of it.
Speaker 2 (43:44):
And yeah, you know, I'm just you know, for my
vaulting from Sam is really picky, right, She's very organized,
very picky. And so who do you think she called?
She didn't even call the company if you just called Ryan.
Speaker 1 (43:53):
Directory, Yeah, yeap, oh that home much. I'd love to
see the report on that, because it really is when
you think about an older home and it's in really
good shape.
Speaker 3 (44:05):
Aaron Sam did a great job with that home.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I was there for a surprise party for deb and
I walked through the home and I walked through the
history is incredible there. I mean you said it was
built in eighteen eighteen seventy.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, so it's been around a while.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yeah. How long did that report take you to do?
Speaker 4 (44:24):
Right up? Depending? I think I was three maybe four hours? Okay, yeah, yeah,
I mean it depends on so older homes, all the
different components, things that we've got going on in there.
I was on a one hundred and twenty five year
old home yesterday and there was some very unique things
in there that you can just take a little extra time.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Hey, the last thing, and then we got to get
out of here. I want to go back to what's
going on December fifth and sixth with WAHI Educational. People
that are not members can come up and be involved.
But I would think that if you want to get
fully what why he brings to you, make sure you
(45:06):
become a member. Look, it's a rounding here, it's you know,
under three hundred bucks for the year and the amount
of information education you get for it.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
If you want to know a little bit more about it,
go to that website.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
It's why he group dot com and and you can
take a look at what the member different memberships they have.
You can find a member and just take a look
at what some of this being a member, what that,
what that includes. And the fact that look, people who go, look,
I don't want to be in a group that I'm
gonna be with my competitors.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
That's not what this is. You're not competing.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Everybody's learning together and and uh yeah, you'll have some
fun up in in the Dell's behaviorself. I'm out trying,
no bail money, don't be calling.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Don't forget the Infinity race tonight, Austin's race. I am
I hoping for him.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
I am watching.
Speaker 1 (45:54):
I'm gonna you call me. I'm gonna turn and watch
for the pink car.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
That's all. Where's the Infinity race tonight?
Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's a Martinsville. Martinsville the small Wells, the smallest track. Okay,
if you're a race fan, you know that's the smallest
track that NASCAR races on. So it's a yeah, there
may be a couple of fender benders.
Speaker 3 (46:11):
Are you. You're not a NASCAR guy either.
Speaker 4 (46:13):
I'm not too busy between working family friends.
Speaker 2 (46:18):
Spencer is and he's just going to block you off
from her.
Speaker 1 (46:20):
Yeah, well that's all right. I don't I have already
black Spencer like six months ago. Guys, Ryan's good to
see you again. You guys to have fun the carbon
pumpkins tonight. Take a lot of pictures, because again there's
a great memory.
Speaker 4 (46:31):
I only get us once. Absolutely you've got.
Speaker 1 (46:33):
I got a great text from Dev saying she's more
than willing to maybe come in studio next week.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
And and I think I don't think you interpreted it properly.
Speaker 1 (46:42):
No, I don't think I did not not no chance.
Quit quit asking McGivern. I just responded, I love you,
and she said love you back. Hey, Dev, have a
great weekend, have a busy weekend for you.
Speaker 2 (46:53):
Have have some fun this week, and I was glad
to be Here's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Hey, stick with us.
Speaker 1 (46:58):
We're talking high school football playoff time Level one games
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will join me on the other side of the break.
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