Dakotah Richardson

Dakotah Richardson is the National Sales Manager for RC Cartridges. Dakotah is a former United States Olympic resident shotgun athlete, competing for Team USA Shooting, and a member of the 2013 World Cup Acapulco Team.

Episode Transcript

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Here's Joe Buitar. Good morning,welcome to Hunting Matters on KPRC nine fifty.

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It's ah, it says led Zeppelinthe lyric it's been a long time,
been along as your host, JoeGuitar. Good to see. I'm
Romoon Roebliss, Happy, happy postholidays. Yeah, thanks for coming back.
I appreciate it. Yeah, youknow, I figured i'd come back.
I thought it was gonna be oneof those things where I show up
and you're not here and yeah Irecorded yesterday. Well you know what,
you know, where you eat theflu and you don't go outside for like

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a whole week. Yeah, that'swhat it feels like. Yeah, because
we hadn't been in the studio together, and you've been traveling. You're going
to Disney and goofing off and Iwent to Alabama for a couple of weeks.
Ye, So yeah, it's it'sit's weird, you know, when
you get to get back in yourbecause I'm a routine guy, so when
you're trying to get back in yourroutine. It was like everything's foreign,
and you know, even being outof Texas for two weeks and coming back
into an hib a real grocery store, yeah, and knowing where everything is.

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Yeah, it's kind of like,oh, okay, what I've been
here before, future conferences and thoselittle things. I have a kid that
lives in California. You still seemissus HIV every day. Yeah, I
can see that. So Hib,if you're listening, we'd love to have
you as a sponsor on the show. I love your ice cream. So
let's see. Lots happened. Iwent camping over the holiday. I thought

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about you the whole time because Ithought, okay, WWJD, what would
Joe do? And so that's whatgot me through. It was very minor.
We were spent twenty four hours atHuntsville State Park. But in our
defense, that morning it was justme and the two boys. We woke
up it was thirty four degrees out. Oh wow, with no electricity.
We had water, but yeah,so I had to have all those comforts

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for the kids and for me.I got to first make coffee waiting for
them to wake up. They finallywake up and I realized, Man,
it's going to be harder that Ithought. To keep them warm, kids,
you want to get dressed and goto McDonald's. Yeah, so we
you know, killed like an hour. Yeah, going to McDonald's and coming
back let the sun come up.You know. By then they did warmed
up to like forty five right throughsome bologney in the in the in the

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lake to try to catch whatever wecan grab. Yeah, that's cool though.
Yeah, it's just enough to wherethey don't get tired of it,
correct, especially if you wake upin is in the thirties. Yeah,
wait a minute, that's what Ithought, you know, camp to be
in the seventies. Dad. Yeah, but yeah, they love it.
In fact, they want to goback and they had a good time.
So so that was a win,total win. That's good. That was
awesome. And you guys did Disneytoo over the holidays. We did for

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a week. That was Have youever been to Disney during Christmas? Not
during the Christmas itself? We landed, We got to Disney World the day
after Christmas landed and Orlando Christmas Day, but it was packed. Now it
wasn't elbow to elbow you can't move, but I mean It was crowded,
but it wasn't unbearable. It remindedme of the times that Aster World when
we'd go and it'd be quote unquotecrowded. You know, it's okay,

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it's a long line, I getit. Yeah, but yeah, that's
cool. It was. It wasfun. I mean the boys, you
know, it was just and yousurprised them with it because they had no
clue. Santa brought it to them. Opened at eight am. By one
o'clock, wheels up. We werein Orlando. Santa, I think we'll
let him stay. Yeah, Santais a good dude. Yeah. Well
we uh uh, we just beenyou know, just I just reacclimating to

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a new year. I don't haveany big resolutions except try to be a
decent human being this year. Yeah, no unattainable goal. If something good
happens, I'm going to consider it. I'm above the bar, right,
So how about you. I hada resolution for about fifteen minutes. You
know that's how those things go.Okay, I'm going to result, I
never mind, right, you know, I'm going to cut back on drinking,
which still you know, make meansI drink significantly h a lot,

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but not as much. Sure,So I'm going to do that. Yeah,
yeah, I got to get backin the gym. I mean it's
and I'm going to wait till February. Yeah, so that because January.
By the by then end of January, I've done this enough years to know
by the first part of February,all those people who have bought gym memberships
on January second or whatever, they'llbe done. They'll be out of my
way. I don't have to waiton my favorite machines or anything like that.

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So all right, So this week, we've got a guest with us
who's been on and on with usbefore in a different capacity. He came
back. He came back. Wow, he came back. Believe it or
not. I use a false nameand I've sent it from an incognito email
address, so he didn't really knowwho it was. But Dakota Richardson with
us. Dakota is the national salesmanager for a company called RC Cartridges,

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which you're going to learn about today. Dakota, what is happening, man,
It's good. I'm glad to haveit to be on again. Good
deal man. We appreciate your time. So how was how were your holidays?
A little on the stressful side.We had some family health stuff going
on, but everyone's good and youknow, ended up it ended up being
a good thing, good deal,all right. Yeah. Unfortunately, holidays

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sometimes that that seems to bring thaton and with families and taught. I've
had my own experiences and I've talkedto a lot of people that sometimes some
reason Christmas and New Year's just seemsto kick in some things. So unfortunately,
but it's good to hear everything's backon an even keel. Now,
So aside from that, have youhad a chance to hunt this year,
Dakota, I have. I've actuallygotten to uh Man, I've made it
down to Bigfoot, Texas not toofar from you guys for early season.

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Duck I was down in Houston forearly season. Tal I was actually able
to even kill a white cell thisyear. I've got actually get quite a
bit of hunting in which I'm allabout good deal, good deal. What's
your favorite type of hunting, Oh, Man, that's tough. I'm gonna
say coil hunting. Personally, it'sbecause you're good with something, you know,

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watching the dogs work. To me, that's always something cool. Do
you have do you have your owndogs. I do not, No,
I you know, luckily, acouple of places around here in the DFW
area when you book a hunt withthem, they've got dogs and guides and
you get to, you know,enjoy that you don't have to do so
much all the work as much asjust sit back and relax and shoot the

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coail. Yeah. Yeah. Andyou know, dogs are like kids.
Their commitment, whether it's a housedog or whether it's a working dog,
it's it's it's a big commitment.So what what what what? What are
your favorite kind of dogs to watchwork? Personally? The boy can those
are my absolute favorite. I youknow, kind of joked into like dolphins
because they're so little they can't seeover the grass, so they kind of

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jump into the air sea before theygo back down. Yeah. Yeah,
absolutely. Yeah. I've been introducedas I've gotten you know, uh,
through the years, I've I've beenintroduced to several different breeds I didn't even
know about. It's it's always funto watch the different breeds and how they
work and how they've been training thatsort of thing. But we're not here
to talk about dogs, So tellour audience a little bit about your background.

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Yeah, So Originally I shot inhigh school back in it really wasn't
a program like it is these days. Shot in four h ended up making
that my job. I was partof the Olympic Resident Athlete program for five
years, shot all over the world. It was bread a pro staff.

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If you you can name it,I probably shot it, shot at it.
Yeah, you know, before weget off the subject, we got
about a minute before we go intothe break. How important was the four
eight shooting program to you because we'rebig, big supporter of youth shooting programs.
For me, it was I meanthat literally that organization put my life
on a completely different track. SoI'm all about it. Yeah, And

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you know I had to kind ofhave the same experience when I was a
kid. I grew up in Louisianaand the Bayous, and my mother had
often talked it later as I gotolder, she said, you know,
I wouldn't know what she was.She was a single mom for quite quite
a few years, but she said, I don't know what I would have
done. It wouldn't have been forhunting and fishing, because she said,
I I always knew you. Youweren't running the streets, you were out
in the Bayou chasing something somewhere.So yeah, both of us were blessed

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in that perspective. All right,folks, we're going to take a quick
break here. Our guest is DakotaRichardson with RC Cartridge as we will be
back after the break. Well fingon a bullet all of his had.
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to Honeymatters on KPRC nine fifty.This is your host, Joe pa I
am Ramon Robless and joining us todayis our guest Dakota Richardson, who is
the national sales manager for RC Cartridges. Dakota, thanks once again for joining
us. Absolutely absolutely glad to behere. Ramon's over there spending some bad
tunes. Wait, I thought itwas good. No that bad? I
mean good? Oh so bad?Fat p h a t Oh, my

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lord, you are so old.I'm down with a linga. Are the
kids these days saying that, ohso old? It's so white? My
kid came home the other day andasked me what the word means. I
don't even know, and I askedthe internet. It was It wasn't anything
bad, But I thought, oh, here we go. Yeah, I'm
to begetting this is the start thosequestions. It's no longer this. You

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can't understand their math, you can'teven understand their language. Yeah. I
Urban Dictionary is a lifesaver for whenmy kids are in high school. So,
Dakota, Uh So, I loveto talk to people that are embarking
on new adventures and new phases intheir life. Tell us a little bit
about what you are up to thesedays. Yeah. So, back in
August, I left Berretta and Itook the position with r C Cartridge USA.

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Basically, you know, it's abrand, it's been around for quite
a while, but it's not aname brand here in the United States.
You know, you go overseas andit's everywhere, and you know, people
hot with it, to clays withit, you name it, it's there
and that's you know, that ismy responsibility. Now it's kind of show
people, you know, what itis and who we are, you know,

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show them a better option than thecheapest thing at Walmart. Where where's
r C Cartridges? The home companybased on out of home country and factories
based out of Italy. It's upin northern Italy, Okay. And and
I'm just curious you can tell youtobout my own business. I'm just moromona
are being nosy here, But howdid you how did you get involved with

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this? Because I know, Iknow you've been lifelong shooter and that sort
of thing, and just curious toknow because you're kind of you're kind of
a uh, you're kind of apioneer. You're bringing this brand to the
US and you're the face of it. Now. Yeah, I know it's
you know, we've been the companyitself has been trying to push into the
United States for a few years,and back in August they made me an

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offer and you know, kind ofexplained what they wanted to build. And
you know, at that point,and I still am, you know,
I'm at the point where I wantto build something, you know, not
just to the counter and sell,but truly build a brand and you know,
make it happen. Yeah. Yeah, And so you said, tell
us a little bit about the hthe history of the company and the history
of this of this ammunition. Soit's it's it's got more of a lawyer

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followed and compared additively and internationally thanthe US at this point. Absolutely.
So if you look back at formerOlympic Games, World Cup, you're going
to find RC Cartridges there. It'syou know, it's a little over one
hundred years old. The family stillowns it, family still operates its.
The eldest daughters actually they want tocontrol now. And it's you know,

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we are the family works for thecompany. And even now my position,
my two bosses a father and son. So again I'm an American side or
a family company. Okay, okay, so what do you kind of what
what is it that you what areyour goals over the next year for for
RC cartridges here in the United States. So, you know, people go

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out for dove season in September orthey're getting ready to go hunt. You
know, typically they go to Academy, Walmart, whatever their local shop is
and they end up grabbing the cheapestboxing shelves on there. And my goal
is to explain you know, youpay, you know, all this money
for your gun, for your waiters, for your dogs, your dog kennel.

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You know, you expect everything toperform, but then you grab a
shell that isn't going to And that'sthat's where we come in. You know,
we we make a shell that isgoing to perform. It's going to
get the most out of your gun, the most out of your hunt.
It's you know, it's just abetter option. M I'm looking at the

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website right now, and that's somegood stuff here. Now. This isn't
going to make me a flawless uhhunter, right, Like, I still
have to look at the target andstuff because I'm horrible look at the target.
But you know, every time youpull the trigger, that shell is
going to pattern, right, youknow, it's going to cycle them your

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gun, right it's going to expand, it's going to do everything it's supposed
to so that you know, thebirds where you think, you know,
man, I didn't hit that.We're there to fill up my gap,
you know, because more than likely, very possible you have a bad pattern
and a bad shell and that's whatwe here here to fix. So what
is it about the rc arcity,cartridges rounds that that makes it? Uh

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pattern better, expand correctly and doall those things that you mentioned. It's
going to be you know, ourengineers, how we design the shell,
how we build the shell. Youknow, we aren't a giant manufacturer.
We don't have multiple factors, wedon't have multiple lines. So everything has
a higher tension. The detail,whether it's the powder, whether it's the

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shots, you name, every componentis just going to be a higher quality,
a higher grade. You know.Our our mission is not to just
pump out camo, but to makegood ammo. Okay, what would be
the difference and maybe this is yourquestion, Joe, but the between a
hunting shell and a target shell?What what distinguishes them? So a lot

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of it's going to be shot sized. Okay, So in a competition,
you're gonna see typically seven and ahalf to nine and that's typically mandated.
That's that's in the rules, whetheryou're shooting for the Olympics or you're a
kids shooting four ah, you know, that's that's your guidelines. Where hunting,
even quail and pheasants, you're gonnasee five sixes maybe seven, which

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is a little bit of a largershot size to give you more knockdown power.
And you guys, primarily you manufacturedtwelve and twenty gage rounds or we
do twelve, twenty, twenty eightand four ten. We do the four
main gauges, and we do variationsof all of it. You know,
we run steel lines, we runnickel plated, we do you know,

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higher antimony. You know, weeven have variable speeds. And because we
are so niche I'm not niche,but because we are so hands on,
we can actually even custom order stuff. So if you're a club or range
and you say, hey, youknow, I want this speed, this
size, and I want my logoon the shelf, we can do that.

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What about several bullets for taking downwerewolves? I mean there's a will,
there's a way. I know itsounds like a custom round to me.
With your face on it. Youguys don't do any home defense rounds,
do you. We don't. Weare strictly hunting and for shooting.

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What would be a home defense round? I mean what I'm asking joetun?
Yeah, whoever? Go aheadakoda?Oh, I'm sorry, that's typically going
to be you know, a doublelot buck or even slug. Yeah.
See, I'm more of a justshooting a direction of sound for home home
defense, so I would probably getus. So we use a lot of

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double up buckshot for goose hunting,take down big birds up from the sky.
And then the slug of course,and the growing up in Louisiana,
it was you know, when Iwas a kid, I had a shotgun,
my grandfather's shotgun. So either Ishot buckshot through it or I shot
a rifled slug. It was lookedlike a shotgun shell with a bullet inside.
For those of you listening have neverseen or used one, I haven't
seen a slug. Is that itlooks like a shotgun shell with a bullet

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inside of it. Wow. Yeah, And we would use those for deer
hunting in Louisiana when I was akid. Interesting, yeah, I know
in some states that's all they allow, they don't allow long range rifles.
Yeah, so slug is just likea rifle. You get one shot in
that direction. Yes, and that'sit. Yep, that way. Wow.
Oh really Yeah. We've got afamily member up in Iowa and they

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have a center fire season and thismight have changed in a few years,
but it was just does and itwas super late in the season, but
slugs started, you know, Novemberfirst, kind of like our typical center
fire season does. Yeah, We'reso we're so fortunate in Texas that you
know, it's you can pretty muchhunt with anything that's a reasonable firearm or

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bow or crossbow or whatever. Youknow, these are other states. I
look at these other states, andthe firearms regulations and the ammunition regulations and
when and when you cannot use themare almost as confusing as the tag systems
in some states as far as gettinghunting tags. Am I correct, Dakota?
Oh absolutely, so that's absolutely It'sjust like a reciprocating carry. We
need to have that just universal acrossthe US with all this stuff. All

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right, folks, gonna take aquick break here on Honeymatter's kPr C nine
fifty. We'll be back after thebreak. Job. Welcome back to Honey

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Matters O k PRC nine fifty.This is Joe Btar, I have Ramon
Robus and were joining today by ourguest Dakota Richardson, who is the national
sales manager for r C Cartridges.Dakota, thank you once again, Yes,
sir, Well before we forget thisnow, how can people find out
more about you? How can let'scover that first to give us your website
address. So our website is goingto be r C Cartridge USA dot com.

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Okay, that is our American website. That'll show you everything that we
bring in currently. Okay, likeI said, you can always do special
orders to but that our main product. That's a that's a that's a brand
new website. Actually Ramon is lookingat it right now and it's a it's
really nice little website there. Andhow can how can our listeners purchase RC

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Cartridges rounds? So if you goon the website, there is a find
a Dealer section that will show youthe closest you know, range or store
if you want to buy small batches, if you're a range or you're a
shooter and you want to buy youknow, a palette or two pallets or
you know, for your four eightteam or whatever. There is a button

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on there that says buy bolt andthat will direct you straight to me.
Okay, okay, yeah, Ikind of like that. I was looking
at the website last week and Ilike it. You can search by rounds
whatever you're looking for, and thenthere's there's that find a Dealer button everywhere,
so you can you can access thosefolks. Do you, guys,
do you foresee the next year?What let me let me back up a

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little bit, what kind of whatis your main goal in the next year
as far as how are you goingto publicize yourself, how you're going to
market yourself, how are you goingto start to establish that name here in
the United States? I mean,and I'll tell our listening audience right now,
you were you were kind enough thatyou guys stepped up and you're actually
a corporate partner of Houston Spari Clubbecause uh, Houston Staria Club Foundation,
because you believe in what we dofrom a conservation and education standpoint. But

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aside from that partnering with organizations,what else do you kind of have on
the radar? So, I mean, we are having conversations like we're having
right now. You know, we'regoing through your major shows. We're going
to be there, if not booth, we're gonna be walking around talking to
people. We are going to beat every major national sporting claves events this
year, every regional, every major, we're going to be there. We're

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gonna be set up. We're goingto be at ACUIS, which is the
collegiate level national championships. We're goingto be a setp which is the high
school nationals. I mean we aregoing to be We're physically going to be
there, Okay, and I'm surewe're going to see you guys down at
our Sporting Plays tournament next fall.Absolutely, it's not on the level of
some of those you mentioned, ofcourse, it's more of a fun shoot.

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But uh, but he's on myteam. Yeah, you're gonna put
a beard on him. Hat,nobody's gonna recognize him exactly. You're you're
gonna have a beard or he's're gonnaput it. We're gonna disguise him,
so nobody knows that I have aringer on my team. Yeah. Hey,
there, that's uh talking about supportingplace competitions. What you know,

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We've got a couple of guys thatare members of the Ustin spar Club Foundation
that that compete every year, andyou probably know them. You run in
those circles and they come out andthese guys are coming to quail shoots and
coming to sporting plass tournaments with fourtens, these smart alex and they're and
they're they're just they're just running througha course with a four ten shotgun.
Well, I would like to getyour opinion on that. Man. I

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was told as a young shooter,if you see an old man with the
four ten on a peat field walkaway? Yeah, you do? You
see that a lot though, youdo? You know these older guys that
they've shot all the gates. Isn'tthey shot for so long that they're looking
for a challenge, you know,whether it's shooting eat with a four ten
or I seen guys shooting pheasants witha four ten, So they want the

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challenge. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I was on a dove unt last
year and the same guy I'm speakingabout, And if he's listening, he
knows who he is. We werewe were on a dove shoot last year,
on a dove hunt, and he'dbeen shooting sporting plays tournaments with the
four ten and the guy's outstand inthe middlefield shooting doves out of the sky,
I mean, zooming by with afour ten shot gun. And I
was like, come on, man, just making me look bad, making

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all of us look bad. Haveyou ever competed with the four ten Dakota?
I have not. I've only evercompeted with twelve gauge. That was
kind of you know when I shotcompetitively, and even still now you're not
shooting twelve, you're handing gapping yourself. You know, you're you are making
it harder. Yeah. Well,when it comes to quail says and stuff
like that, I am typically atwenty gage, sometimes a twenty eight.

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Yeah, yeah, I started.You know, when I started my hunting
journey, it was shooting squirrels andrabbits and mary's that were conducive for me
using a twenty two. My firstshotgun was a single shot, my grandfather's
which I still have my grandfather's singleshot four ten, and I can't tell
you how many animals I take downwith that. Really. Oh yeah,
so you're sitting here a great shotnow, just saying this all you need.

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Wow, I'm a great squirrel caller, I get them in a real
close do you find their number?Stuff is changing so much too with the
ammunition like I was on the fourteen. So as the majority of the listeners
are going to know this, butthey're shooting four ten. You cannot find
three inch, So you can't findthree inch holds, really can as a

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main faster we can't. So weworked with our people in Italy and we
came up with as close as possibleto a three inch So two and seven
eight inch four ten, it'll cyclejust like a three inch twelve really shoot
just like a three inch, butwe actually can get it and we have
it. Interesting, are they notmaking three inches anymore? Way back in

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COVID when we had everything kind ofstop, that was the last thing people
were making, you know. Theywhen the shortage hit, they built twelve,
they built twenty and by the timeyou got to four ten. Well
now all of a sudden, youneed twelve again. Kind of got skipped
over. Yeah, So we haven'thad a surplus to four ten in the
market in Man three years at least. So what you're saying is that case

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of four ten shells, I needto hang on to them. It's it's
definitely rare to say, yeah,Ramona, And I've talked to several firearms
manufacturers, several ammunition manufacturers over thepast few years, and you know,
I do remember them saying it's we'remanufacturing on demand and whatever selling the quickest,
and we're just leaving everything else alone. So I guess that's what you're
telling us. And then it's it'sstill that way. Powder it's still hard

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to come by, and you know, powder maybe getting harder to come by.
We'll see, and if that's thecase, I mean, it's it's
going to be you know, it'sgonna be a seller's market for sure.
What's the hold up on the powderworse, whether it Ukraine Israel. So

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typically in a shotgun shell, weuse a single based powder. That's your
cheap shocktun powder for your entry levelshelf. That's the same powder that's used
in mortars and artillery. Ah.So in periods of war, there's typically
going to be a shortage that andyou know, we have had a couple
of incidents of you know, powderfacilities or private facilities catch fires because we

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are and everyone has stretched so thinto produce and sell on demand that you
know, accidents happen and you're you'restretched thin and we're seeing that. Yeah.
You know, unfortunately, in anytype of manufacturing process, when you
start to rush things, you tendto lose a little bit of focus on
on safety and attention to detail,and those accidents can happen. I've I've
read about a couple of those incidents, and yeah, it's it's unfortunate,

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but but it does happen. Yeah, I just hearkening back to my childhood.
I remember what when I disc overto three inch four ten shotgun shell
I thought, oh, this islike a cannon, you know, look
at this because I just had thoselittle bit of four ten shells, that's
all. Yeah, And I wasin a local sporting store and I was
like, what three inch four tenshotgun shells? Think of the stuff I
can hunt with this? And Istill remember, I still remember that that

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you ever use them? Yeah,I use them for squirrels and rabbits,
never for birds or you know,anything else but squirrels and rabbits. You
know, one SHOT's all you get. So yeah, but uh, yeah,
four ten is I'm very very fondof that caliber, very fond of
that My actually that gun was probablymy great grandfather's goual. Wow. So
yeah, breaks down in three pieces. They had guns back then, they

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did. They did have guns backthen, lots of them. All Right,
folks, we're heading here to abreak. You have anything else before
we jump into the break? Ramone, Well, I got a lot of
questions about I mean, we're talkingfour to ten, we're talking three inches,
we're talking squirrel hunting. I gota lot of things, but I
don't know if we have enough timeto get into it. All right,
We're going to take it up onthe other side here, Dakota or Richardson

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with RC Cartridges with us. Checkout their website at r C Cartridge U
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and finish up our show here injust a few moments. Honeymatters on k
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Thank you, Joe, Welcome backto Honeymton's on KPRC nine fifty.

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This is Joe Bit, I amRomot and Robs and we were joined by
Dakota Richardson with RC Cartridges. Dakota, thank you once again for joining us.
Yes, Sir Dakota, just aquick question here. If we had
to take one weapon with us intothe apocalypse, which one is that going
to be? Oh that's a hardone. Yeah, why you gotta think

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of him? Now, Okay,you're saying shot I'm gonna say I'm gonna
say practical shotgun because it's you know, great whore. You can hunt with
it. You can clear house orroom, you name it. You can
kind do a little bit of everythingwith it, and you have all the
amos sitting in your bedroom exactly.I gotta wear how to Let's let's hear
what Ramone's answer is, because Ithink I know what it is, but

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I always like his answer. Okay, go ahead, you ready? Yeah,
machete it was a flamethrower. No, no, no, I'd never
say a flame thrower, machete.It's got to be a sword or a
knife, Okay, I mean alongsomething for distance that you don't have to
worry about. Ammunition, Yeah,ammunition. What if you stick it in
and they get stuck in a zombierib and then you can't No, you
can get it out. It wouldjust take I mean, it's better than

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the chance of running out of ammunition. That's true. Their tissue integrity and
bone did. He's probably pretty badanyway, so it's only got to get
worse this time. Age True goeson to think about that. You know,
we always cover the details here inthe show, folks, so you
just never know what we're going towe're going to be out. Well,
you have the whole camping hunting partfigured out. I have the whole zam
zombie yeah figured out, and thenwe both can cook. Yeah, and

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I know the place that we cango. Okay, that's unreachable. You
have access to good so tell meoff the air about that. It's a
good point of observation where an elevatedpoint, and it also has walls around
it. So we're good, fantastic. You know what, if you behave
to Coda, maybe we'll take you. I've got my own out west,
don't. Okay, Well he's gotto show up though. He's got all
the am Oh yeah, I knowit. So maybe you provide the shelves

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and we'll provide the food and everythingelse. We'll I'll be making mean apocalypse
risotto. So it's gonna be fine. I thought you were going to start
talking about your apocalyptic meat loaf again, speaking of witch Dakota brisket of ribs,
what's your preference? Oh, I'mgonna say ribs because you can make

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a make rib sanwich. Oh wow, that's the worst answer I've ever heard.
It is did he say McRib We'regonna We're gonna have to ask you
to leave the show at home,Nick, Ribs is where it's at.
I'm telling you right now. Okay, you know what. I'll take you
at your word and I'll get therecipe from you when we're done here.
The Texans than garlic toasts. Ohyeah, okay, that sounds like a

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bachelor meal. I can even envisionof the box in the freezer at HIV.
I know exactly what you're talking about, which is sad? Is that
true? Yeah? The frozen TexasFrench toast. Yeah, I think it's
like an a It's like in agreen and white box. You've seen it.
Don't lie, don't you're not breadmaking your own bread all the time.
I too. I want to talka little bit about something away from

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RC carches because you've had a lotof experience with this. I am not
a what you would call a regularbird hunter, bird shooter. I grew
up hunting ducks a lot, soit's pretty much twelve gage. You know,
we did the whole thing. Butthrough my life I've been kind of
been frequently not on a regular basis. Hey you want to go on a
doth hunt. Hey you want togo on a peasant hunt. Hey you
want to shoot quail, duck andgeese. I got but a selection of

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chokes and shotgun rounds, shells.How do you figure that puzzle out?
Other than searching forward on the internet. Is there kind of a general rule
of thumb or kind of what howdo you do it? So? I
wouldn't say there's a general rule.Everyone has their preference, you know,
their own personal you know, somepeople like forwards. I like seven and
a half. It's you know,a lot of it is personal for me.

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When I'm quail hunting or pheasant trucker, you know, everything except for
ducks and geese and cranes. Iam typically running an improved cylinder in the
bottom. I'm modified on top,okay, and then I am running typically
a twenty age one out fload ina seven and a half. So you're
running modified the top and improved onthe bottom. I pruce cylinder yet,

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and you're which one are you shootingfirst? I'm priuce cylinder lays, shootottom
gral ferst Oh, got it,got it, got it. I'm asking
these questions from an educating standpoint becauseI've got some shotguns that you can flip,
you know, you can switch theupper and lower the over and under
shotguns are on okay, where yougot a round on top one bottom.
You've got some that you have theselittle buttons as you will for lack of
better terminology, that you can flipyour your barrels and things, and always

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always looking. I've got these plasticboxes full of chokes, and I'm like,
oh, improved, improved, modifiedand modified, you know, and
always like, okay, let mego on the internet figure out what I'm
gonna do because I'm hunting chucker tomorrowor whatever. And so what what the
choke does? And I'm asking thisquestion is because I don't know the choker
closes the spread? Is that what'sgoing on? Yes, either opens it

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or closes it, depending on whichone's in. So a cylinder is just
wide open as you move up.So a cylinder, improved, cylinder,
modified, improved, modified, andfool those are your most common chokes.
Your fool is going to be yourtightest. Yeah, and why why are
you switching them? I mean whyis one one one way and one the

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other on the barrels? You know, back this is from forever ago.
You know. Shotguns themselves when itcomes to chokes, have not changed in
a long time. Our shells have. So the wads we use, whether
it's US Winchester or youl Me whoever, our wads are able to f patterns

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much better and for much longer.And that's you know, that kind of
filled in the gaps because back inthe day, you know, you had
guns that were fixed so you couldn'tchange them, and they'd be a quail
gun, you know, in afull and that you don't see that anymore
because of everything's changed. If youshoot a quail with a full twenty gage
these days, you're not gonna haveanything left. Okay. Yeah, that

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old single shot fourteen I'm sorry abouthad no ability to change the chokes.
It was just a four to ten. Yeah that's what you shot. Yeah,
that was it. And uh,you know, the the choke allows
your pattern to hold together tighter anddepending on the type of choke it allows
it to maintain that density, ifyou will, for varying distances. So
if he's shooting, you know,an improved on the bottom. You know,

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you're trying to maintain your pattern,maybe a little bit tighter, a
little bit little longer, or notas much. And then you go to
the modifier, you go to yoursecond shot. The birds are probably farther
away from eyes, so you needa different you're just trying different approach.
Yeah, Okay, am I right, Dakota. No, you're you're entirely
or you're running the money. Okay, So this is hard. It's it's
a puzzle. I mean, onceyou do I guess it's like anything else.

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Once you do it all the time, you become more familiar. They
okay, but I have a littlecheat sheet that I typically keep them my
choke too case just to remember,because I got two or three different over
n unders that I've won off forraffles and things over the years, and
I'm just like, okay, wellif I'm gonna take this one out this
time, you know, and Ihave one. Yeah, you don't need
three. No, and none ofthem cost you much. No, twenty

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twenty five dollars rapples yeah, letme. I'll give you fifty bucks.
Okay, I don't have an overunder. It's it's different you coode typically
do you like shoot over and under? Do you like shooting semis? What
are you typically shooting in? Whichsituations do you shoot them? So?
Everything except for waterfowl, I'm runningover an over unders, Okay, you

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know when it comes to ducks,crane, geese, that sort of thing,
I'm running a semi audits, whetherit's a twelve or twenty. Yeah,
but I'm because I know I'm gonnaget wet, especially if I'm duck
hunting. I have a bad historyof getting stuck. My boots are still
in public land offside of corporate Yeah, that's the level of stuck I'm talking
about. And I know I'm gonnaget wet. No, I'm gonna get

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money. So I go with mycemiatos versus my nicer wood guns. Yeah,
some of them I take out onthe over and unders all that,
I oh, ifin'ely get scratched up. They're pretty. Yeah, they're my
pretty guns. They made me feelpretty. Take them out and I love
them, and I love them andmy naughty little pretty gun tet. Is

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that creepy? What is it?Was that Farley? Who is that Chris
Farley? Yeah? I can't thinkof the movie though, Tommy Boy,
Yeah, we need to have anothermovie up. Yeah, we had excuse
us to go to where we're fanboying on Tommy Boy. Good, speaking
of good, speaking of movies.So let's say, you know, what's
the one movie that you can thatyou expect to be in a honey camp,

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should be in a honey camp,or you can watch over and over
again when you're out at hunting.Oh yeah, I'm gonna say Independence Day,
the original one of wool Yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah,
it's a good one. You're Ithink we had that on a DVD
in our camper and back before youhad mobile satellite and I was a kids
and we're just watching Dependancy over andover. Yeah. My two are if

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you even care, my too.I'm a little bit older than you.
So my two are Tune with theWind, Tombstone no sound of music,
you know, Tombstone, and Legendsof the Fall. Yeah, said the
falls a little girly, it is. I like the movie. I just
can't imagine a camp sitting there.I put Legends of The Fall and the

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costume movie Dances with Wolves, Dancerswith Wolves kind of yeah, yeah,
kind of right there. Okay,what was the name Tristan? Tristan,
Yeah, yeah, I thought thatwas one of his best character. Yeah.
I don't want to profess how muchI like the movie even I like
the movie. Yeah, all right, on that note. On that note,
we're going to wrap it up,Dakota, thank you so much for

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joining us, folks. Dakota Richardson, the national sales manager for RC Cartridges.
Go to RC Cartridge USA and checkout their website and order some sales.
Folks. We'll see you next weekhere on Honeymtter's KPRC nine fifty.
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