October 21, 2023 • 39 mins
Derek Ham is an accomplished businessman with a passion for the outdoors, hunting and conservation. He is especially passionate about getting kids and others involved in hunting and guiding them to understand the link and truth between hunting and conservation. He began his first career in Los Angeles working in the music industry. He later moved back to Texas in support of his family and pursued a career in Commercial Construction. Ultimately, his passion for the outdoors led him to Farm and Ranch Real Estate where he currently represents Ruple Ranch & Land.
Derek’s passion for the outdoors was fostered as a young boy by his father who grew up on the famed LX Cattle Ranch in the Texas panhandle. His father set the groundwork for his love of hunting and fishing. Derek has been an avid hunter and conservationist for the majority of his life traveling around the world hunting both unique and more traditional game alike. His most notable hunting accomplishment was being dropped by float plane in Alaska for a week for a self-guided hunt where he harvested the Number 11 all-time Pope & Young Moose with his recurve bow. Among other countries, he has also been a successful hunter in New Zealand, Spain, Greenland and Newfoundland. But, of course, he has and does most prominently hunt in our great state of Texas.
Derek is a Lifetime member of Houston Safari Club Foundation, a member of the HSCF Board of Directors, and previously chaired the HSCF Annual Sporting Clays Tournament for two years. Prior to his time at HSCF, he chaired the Adventures program for Sky High for Kids where he organized and executed hunts for pediatric cancer patients for over five years. Derek is also a member of TDA, RMEF, NWTF, TTHA, NRA, Sportsman’s Alliance, and Quail Coalition. Derek shares his passion for hunting with his wife Jeni and daughter Sydney. Both of whom have traveled with him on his hunting adventures. He takes care to demonstrate his concern for a healthy wildlife population and ensure that the hunt is more than the harvesting of game but, more importantly, it’s about the experience.
Derek’s passion for the outdoors was fostered as a young boy by his father who grew up on the famed LX Cattle Ranch in the Texas panhandle. His father set the groundwork for his love of hunting and fishing. Derek has been an avid hunter and conservationist for the majority of his life traveling around the world hunting both unique and more traditional game alike. His most notable hunting accomplishment was being dropped by float plane in Alaska for a week for a self-guided hunt where he harvested the Number 11 all-time Pope & Young Moose with his recurve bow. Among other countries, he has also been a successful hunter in New Zealand, Spain, Greenland and Newfoundland. But, of course, he has and does most prominently hunt in our great state of Texas.
Derek is a Lifetime member of Houston Safari Club Foundation, a member of the HSCF Board of Directors, and previously chaired the HSCF Annual Sporting Clays Tournament for two years. Prior to his time at HSCF, he chaired the Adventures program for Sky High for Kids where he organized and executed hunts for pediatric cancer patients for over five years. Derek is also a member of TDA, RMEF, NWTF, TTHA, NRA, Sportsman’s Alliance, and Quail Coalition. Derek shares his passion for hunting with his wife Jeni and daughter Sydney. Both of whom have traveled with him on his hunting adventures. He takes care to demonstrate his concern for a healthy wildlife population and ensure that the hunt is more than the harvesting of game but, more importantly, it’s about the experience.
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Tradition, conservation, family, theodors. It matters to you, it
matters to us. This is HuntingMatters presented by Houston Safari Club Foundation.
Here's Joe Bitar. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Honeymtters on KPRC nine
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to fifty. This is your host, Joe Vitar. I am Ramone Robluss.
Uh the award winning Ramone Roebuss.I didn't want to brag ben the
award winning Joe Bitar. Well,we are co hosts. Yeah, how
about that another award? And uhyeah, I gotta recognize for co host
Silver Award for co hosts. Iguess that's the second place, but I'll
take it. At least it's nota participation trophy. We're gonna have to
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build another wing your award hanging upsome of them over there. I saw
a couple of them in the bathroom. What you been up to getting ready
for Halloween? Yeah? We gotthe Halloween thing. The big thing is
my kids decided on costumes going hisPikachu and some character from Minecraft. Are
you familiar with Minecraft? Familiar withit? But don't me either. I
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didn't know there were really characters,but my oldest going is minecraft and cool.
What was really cool was last weekendduring the eclipse. The youngest one,
Oliver, wanted to go out andlook at it. Perfect weather,
everything, but he insisted on goinghis Pikachu. So if you looked at
the family, there's all of uswith our little glasses on, and then
the fourth member is Pikachu looking throughhis glasses. That's hilarious. It's nice
to have a six year old manfive and a half year old. They're
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so fun your perspective. You know, what is really not that important that
I do blank Right, All thiskid wants to do is put on this
slloween costume on sunglasses, go outside, look at the look at the eclipse'
that's pretty cool. Yeah, andthat was a highlight. Man. He
was so happy to run around thisPikachu. Thank goodness for fall man.
This weather's been and it's something forredible. I know, it's like it gets
blow of nine. He's like,I need, I need a wrap.
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But it was like high forties thisweek and you know the windows open.
I mean that first day when youcan finally open the windows, when you
gotta get w forty aah for thefirst window opening. We did that.
We cleaned window seals and straight allthe windows and got that done. So
yeah, that's one of my favoritetimes of the year. And the sore
throats and the running noses come.But that's okay. It's a fall price
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to pay. That's just part ofit. My kids were complaining that it
was chilly, and I said,boys, remember back in June and July.
Remember two weeks ago, Remember whenwe were talking about how we would
just sweat walk into the car.Yeah, no more. Oh man,
Thank goodness for fall hunting season.You good. We got anything going on
with the Safari Club, anything happening. Let's see, in November eighth,
we're gonna have us law shields.It could be in our office, and
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we're going to do a first aidfor a gunshot wound victims. That's going
to be a really cool course.Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more of
necessity. You never know what you'regoing to run into out there in the
public and the public forum. Butwe'll be doing that course on November eighth.
December seventh, we'll be having ourbig annual Christmas party out at the
Barn in Cyprus, Texas. Inthe nineteenth or twenty first of January doing
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this little three day thing we callthe annual Worldwide Expo Convention. Is that
a thing still? It's we're thinkingabout it. They not having a convention
again next year, but we aremoving that back to the Woodlands. We've
been downtown for a few years andwe're going back to the Woodlands Waterway,
Mariot and Conference Center and you canlearn about all those events that we hunt.
We give dot org. You donot have to be a member to
attend our convention or our events,but we'd love for you to sign up.
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Now, my wife, you know, works for a US law shield
yep, and she does this thingwhere she dresses up as a nurse.
Okay, now, is that anyIs that in any way related to this
November a thing? Is she showingup for this deal? Well, I
don't know. She tells you she'sbusy that night or you know what.
I'm gonna have to talk to her. I have questions, yeah, okay,
I have a lot of questions.Now, just what you just told
me that your life, your wifelikes to dress up as a nurse.
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Yeah, I thought that was yourthing. You are actually the only nurse
sitting at this table. I ama certified professional something you have to keep
your license up or anything with it. If I practice have to keep my
license active. My my license isin what do they call it? Not
suspended, but uh, what's theword is it? Like, uh,
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what do you call that? Limbo? Limbo? It's it's in professional nursing
limbo. Yeah, but I can. I can go back and take courses
and take certifications and where you can'tdescribe me any medicine or okay, then
it's I can pump your chest ifyou coad go out on the floor,
I can do CPR. And ifI go into cardiac arrest, you could
maybe yeah, advanced cardiac life support. I can do all that. I
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told you. My kid was called. It was right in the back of
an amblance. Did I tell youthis story already? No, Well it's
we can save it for another time. But the teas is I got a
call from school saying, come pickup your kid, take them to urgent
care, and okay, on myway. Then I got a call on
the way saying, hey, wewent ahead and called nine to one one.
Oh, so I thought I toldyou that, But well that'll be
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okay, that's interesting. I'll saveit for the Breakers. But he's okay,
yeah, he's obviously I didn't leadwith that. You're still here,
so you're not You're doing the podcast, so good. Look that's always scary
and you get yeah, mister robsUh calling about your child. It's always
scary. I got a bunch ofthose calls. Yeah, I'm school nurse.
Anyway, go to we hunt wegive dot org. Check out all
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the cool stuff's happening with Houston's FarClub Foundation and banquet tickets are on sale
for the expo. You pre purchasedexpo hal tickets and banquet tickets. Going
to have a live entertainment. We'regonna have a lot of auction items,
live auctions. Three times during theweekend. We have a raffle. The
ladies group our Gazelle's is going tohave a big banquet in silent auction.
So it's all there on the websiteat we hunt we give dot org.
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And if you are not there thenineteenth or the twenty first of January,
you are missing out. I meanhere we are October the twenty second.
Yeah, and we're talking about theexpo because it's literally two months away.
Yeah, I know, I'm ahalf mone hard to believe. You know,
it'll be Thanksgiving, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Boom, New Year's
Eve over here. I don't know. And it goes quicker the older you
get. So our guest today's Derekcam. Derek is a life member of
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Houston's Far Club Foundation. He hasserved on various committees. He's on our
board of directors, and Derek's beenvery involved with Hospar Club and a lot
of different outdoor organizations. We're goingto talk a little bit about that and
talk a little bit about his deepdark secrets that he's not for shared before.
He's got some things to reveal ontoday's podcast. So Derek, welcome,
Thank you, thanks, thanks forhaving me back. Good lord,
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I'm a little nervous, no question. So what's your Halloween costume going to
be this year? Actually, probablynothing because we're going to pretend like we're
not at home. Well, wehad all this trouble with our foundation,
right, Yeah, I think Itold you, Oh yeah, the foundation
of the house. No, it'snone of my business, but yeah no,
And it's been going on for likeoff and on for three years,
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and so we finally got the righttools and people that we needed to fix
it all and but the front ofour house looks a little apocalyptic and which
yeah, yeah, I know youtakes out there, you're good to go,
but you know, we got togo get the stuff out of storage
and all that, and we're justexhausted. What's the Halloween equivalent of the
Grinch of Christmas? Because this ishim, what would be an equivalent night?
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Well, no, no, notthere before Christmas? Now you mean
like a Grinch Halloween guy? Yeah, the opposite of No, but Halloween's
like my favorite holiday, it reallyis. But you're you're turning off the
lights. I say that when Iall right, we won't. I mean,
it's none of my business. I'lldress up. Let's go ahead and
give out your address on the airright now, so we'll we'll make sure
we have lots of people there.If you'll loan me your nurse out,
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yeah, actually, just get himto show up and it's all you need.
There's a fee associated a little bit. It's my standard, twenty five
dollars an hour fee plus I'll scarethe kids at all. Oh man,
Derek, we've I think, uhwe've talked about this before, but uh,
we're going to talk about your someof your hunting experiences and things like
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that. But you actually started yourcareer out in La Yes, yes,
in the music industry. If I'myes, tell us a little bit about
that. So. Yeah, SoI actually got my degrees in in film
and English. So I went outto to be in the film industry,
right, drove out there with fivehundred bucks in a seventy nine Cadillac and
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uh yeah, and started I hadI had worked in a music store and
then basically I bluffed my way intoto getting into uh to work for for
Virgin Entertainment. Wow. You know, they saw the degrees and they asked
a bunch of questions and I said, yeah, you know, I'm thinking
about going to law school and allthis stuff, which I really wasn't.
But so I just worked my waythrough, you know those guys, and
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ended up being the last position Ihad there. I was in charge of
like anything music related that wasn't inan auditorium, like like a store event,
like a signing or anything like that. So I had to head up
logistics and whatnot. It was.It was a blast. That's awesome.
Awesome, We'll pick that up onthe other side. Taking a break,
here on Honeymatter's KPRC nine to fifty. Yeah. Song always gives me the
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crepes. Yeah, it's iconic.Based on last year's candy handout, we
didn't get much traffic here because welive in an older neighborhood right out of
kids. So I thought about splurgeona little bit and be in that house.
Yeah, full candy bars. Yeah, what do you think? Good
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idea? Bad? I like funsize really yeah, these kids don't deserveiant
candy bars, man, but I'dlike that reputation. Ever since I was
a kid, there was always thathouse that had the full candy bars.
That's true as an adult now,I do remember that house. When I
was a kid. It was thebest decorated house and it had the best
candy. Well, you don't youdon't want to be the house that hands
out like tooth rushes and today becausethere's there's one of those. Usually there's
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a house down here that gives outlike granola and raisins. I'm torn between
what we're going to do this yeartoo, gonna be avocado or sushi?
Front thing is sushi? Yeah?Yeah, stinkyback By the time you get
out pretty much good idea, welcomeback to Honting Matters KPRC nine fifty.
This is yours, Joe Bit andwe're joined today of our guest, Derek
Ham. Derek is HSCF Houston FarkoFoundation life member, remember the board of
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directors, and also he is involvedwith a company a little bit of a
few hours out of his day calledRupe Ol Ranch and Land. Derek,
thanks for being here, Thank you, thank us again for having me back.
You bet we talked a little bitabout your your entree in the music
industry and any any dirty secret youwant to reveal on the show that you've
never told before. I know Ramonehas some questions never showers. But you
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know, somebody told me I admet Brad Pitt one of our things,
right he showed up for I thinkit was a stinky Brad Pitt and that's
what. Yeah. Somebody was like, oh, got the stinks never obeys,
and I was like, man,the guy didn't stink to me.
He was really nice. Yeah whatever. You know, he and Bruce Willis
were probably the nicest people out outthere. Cool. That's good to hear
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because I like them both. Sothat's yeah, yeah, yeah, Brad
Pitt's handsomeness overcomes his owner. Iguess yeah. I'd heard the same thing
though, that he never showers,that he's you know, his own used
his own scent or whatever. Rightnow, Derek, I'm on your website,
which is well, I'm looking atthis website. Does that look familiar
to you? That looks very familiar? Okay, And I'm just going through
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the future properties and after fact,anytime during the show, can we just
have a handshake deal on any oneof these that I decided to buy?
Oh yeah, I mean if Ilike, for example, just that one,
all right, I want that,and then we shake and then and
then and then yeah, it's it'spretty much a done deal. Yeah,
no, all right, in noway, shape or form. No,
Okay, Well, it's worth It'sworth an ask because I have had somebody
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show up look at a property andthen tell me, hey, I'm gonna
pay you extra fee and then I'mbringing a suitcase of money tomorrow. And
I said, no, we can'tdo that. You can't just pay with
you can't pay me with cash.And that's what he wanted to do.
That's absurd. They were a littlesuspect because they drove up in a really
nice Bentley. Yeah. Literally,when the doors opened up, smoke came
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out. Oh yeah, well Ijust meant, as far as you know,
it's off the market, and ohwe start the paperwork and start that
process. Verbal is uh enforceable?Yes, well, and we hate shake
and we do it on the FCCregulated airwaves, so it's ceteral. All
right. There's a lot backing youup. Yeah, I agree, I
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agree. I know this is totallyoff the subject. But you guys were
talking about land exchanges and people showingup. Did you guys see in the
news this week has nothing to dowith anywhere. Arkansas became the first state
to take back land from a stateChinese state owned company. Yeah. I
wondered when that was coming. Yes, it's good. I wonder I did
it this week or today or sometimerecently. You know, people have been
telling me, you know, theland that they've gotten in Texas. It's
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near you know, military air basesand stuff like that. You know,
what are we going to do?I was like, well, at some
point somebody in the government's going tosay, you know what, you can't
have that anymore. Yeah, Iknow, Abbot's talked about it. Yeah,
Texas, I think tried it,and I think it. I mean
I think they tried it. Yeahyeah, but Sarah Hokabee made it happen.
So they've got a presidence. Now. Sarah Huckaby is not playing around,
right. I like her. Shecould run for president. Probably give
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her a nod there, but Jesus, he's no nonsense. So you were
in the music industry and then youdid you make a transition over to land
and real estate and in a way, actually, so long, long story
short, my father became ill.I moved back to Texas for a short
period of time, and when Imoved back to La I got into construction.
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Okay, we flipped homes and mymother got ill. Came back to
Houston, said I wasn't going tolose another parent, and started working in
commercial construction, own my own company. Commercial construction got old fast. After
about eight years. It's tough,and I decided I wanted to do something
that involved less screaming and yelling.So I made a call to a broker
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into this what I want to do, and by the end of the week
I had a job offer. Andthe way I went, so are you
are you a broker with Rupel?No, you're an agent. I am
agent. Okay, Okay. There'sbeen rumors about doing something along those lines
because Rupel wants to expand, rightand needs to expand. Yeah, so
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yeah, okay. And you dealwith a lot of rural ranches and that
type of property, which I'm surehas its own unique set of challenges and
things like that. You're dealing withsomething a little more large scale than half
an acre and a house on itmost of the time. But you know,
you know what I mean, there'sthere are properties out there where people
they really they need the help,and a lot of agents they won't take
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their their listing because they may havetwenty six you know people airs involved,
which I do have one right now, and then there's twenty six people,
you know, and and those peopleneed a special kind of help. So
I feel like if I do enoughof those and you know, you get
a reputation and people are gonna,you know, say nice things about you,
it's good karma, and you're gonnaget bigger and better listings. What's
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what's the you know, because we'vehad people on you know, your buddies
over at Capital Farm Credit have beenon back then a year or two ago,
when the heyday was they couldn't getthe they couldn't get the loans of
proved fast enough, couldn't People were, you know, but flooding to Texas
out of California and other states tryingto in buying property. What's the status
of the real estate market now?Cash cash still almost allmost every sale is
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cash or ten thirty one exchange.So yeah, all of them, even
my most recent one was was cash. So it's it's just that's that's what
it's turned into. You know,people want to something safe to put their
money into, and land is alwaysgoing to be safe, so it just
hasn't the you know, the marketis still, in my opinion, strong,
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and with land, we're still seeingthe influx of people from out of
state, mostly or these in stateor mainly in state in my in my
experience, sure it's been I meanI hear people that say, hey,
I had somebody California, somebody whatever. I mean, I did have somebody
from China that I dealt with ona property, but that didn't it didn't
pan out, okay, So butnow it's still everybody I deal with still
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is predominantly from Texas. I'm lookingat these houses and property. Yeah,
I got to do something with mylife. Man. Yeah, we'll grow
up one day, just like SteveMartin says, you know, I finally
feeled out. I figured out howto be a millionaire. First to get
a million dollars then go from there. Yeah. So, how much time
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are we having this? We wegot a minute, had a minute?
Tell us I know you in aminute or less. U probably your most
recent funniest interaction out on property.Somebody come out and said, you know,
here's forty thousand here's I don't knowa thousand acres. Do you have
deer on it? Or whatever?I mean, I'm sure you've had things
happen. I've had funny scary moment. But you know, it is Halloween,
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so maybe we could talk about Yeah. So, so someone came out
to look at a property and therethey were I don't want to stay from
the city because hey, I'm inthe city, right, But they had
zero experience with ranch property. Andthis ranch property was big enough where you
know, on ranches you have towatch out for predators and coddies and stuff
like that, so you might havea rifle or a gun or two somewhere.
So this guy's walking around the houseand he picks up this gun and
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he points it literally at me.He says, I think this thing is
loaded. Oh no, And Isaid, you need to take a step
back, and you need to giveme that gun. And then he swings
it the other direction and I said, well, now you're pointing at your
son. So I literally had totake it away from him and put it
down. Oh wow. And Ihad a little conversation with an agent.
But how can you not know whatan idiot any rifle? Any rifle?
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Yeah, and this is any gun, right so yeah, obviously no,
no, no experience or exposure tofirearms. Yeah. So anyway, which
is why it's a good case foryou to go to a firearm safety course
any chance you can get. Takinga break here on Honeymaters kPr C nine
fifty C. After the break stillhell Lisa, still easy season the right
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all you love it? Leaveing metake my side? Sounding reason so rid
stime fire side. They just performedme California again. Yeah they so good.
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Yeah, I heard it was great. I heard they were the highlight
of the show. Yeah. Yougot to get out there and see those
bands. I know they charge.Yeah. Four hundred dollars a ticket.
But man, ten years from now, ac DC's not gonna be No.
I saw ACDC last tour when theywere here in Houston worth every penny.
I mean, it was incredible,incredible. I never saw when I was
a kid, so finally got tosee them. Welcome back to Honey Matters
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KPRC nine fifty. This is yourhost Joe Beta and Ramon Roeblus winning stays
our guest Derek cam Derek, onceagain, thanks so much for joining us.
Thank you. Let's talk a littlebit about We're going to talk about
hunting eventually. But you were recentlyinvolved in the historical sale of a certain
ranch, right, yes, tellus about that. So, yes,
the Tigner ranch. We closed onthat I think about a month ago.
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Now historical sale. What makes ithistorical? So the family had owned the
property almost one hundred and fifty years, okay, right, and one of
the Tigners was one of the originalpeople that wrote the charter for the City
of Houston. So yeah, andthey they yeah, they've had that property
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and property around that area for formany many years. Wow. So it
it caught the attention of media outlets. Houston Business Journal, Channel two eleven,
several other outlets. So, Imean I was getting calls from California,
from Michigan, from California again,from yeah, the East coast,
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you know it. And but itwas time, it was time for the
family to cellidate. Yeah, somany airs that were involved and that it
just uh, it was a goodtime for them to do that. So
yeah, that's cool. Yeah.Was that a big is a big property
or just a six hundred and fiftyseven acres? Wow? Where is that
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again? And it is just southof Sienna Plantation? Oh okay, yeah,
land south of town. Yeah.You can almost see downtown Houston from
that property. Wow. So tobe able to find it, but you
know, it was it was ait was a challenge. They had had
it on they'd had it listed severaltimes in the past five or six years.
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But someone had literally kept my cardthat I met five years ago.
Oh wow, and that's how thatyeah, and that's that's you know.
I guess she found the card andsaid, hey, let's try this guy.
Wow. And I had seen itlisted, but it was listed as
a commercial property, and I said, now you got to list it as
a multipurpose. And that's what wedid you know it was. It's a
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heck of an investment. Yeah,but you know you could have it as
a as a recreational property to holdon to it. Ninety nine is coming
through there at some point it'll beworth a lot more. Yeah, that's
great. That's crazy when you sayninety nine will be coming through there,
it'll be worth more in terms ofselling it for business for commercial purposes.
Correct, correct, Yeah, Ithought you met imminent domain coming and buying
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it up or something. Yeah,No, it's ninety nine probably. Well
the plan is just south of there, Okay, So yeah, fantastic.
Yeah, that's crazy something you andI talked about with a mutual mutual friend
of ours. And I don't thinka lot of people know about it.
I'm not really even though I've discussedor heard the talk about it. Carbon
credits people that are buying land orhave land, and I know you've done
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a little bit of research on thatrecently. Let's talk about carbon credits a
little bit. So carbon credits.So East Texas is a really good market
for carbon credits. And the reasonthat it is is is so there are
companies, there's a few companies outthere they buy carbon credits and a carbon
credit is uncut Timberland, right,is worth so much a ton. I
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say so much because I think it'sdifferent different areas, So I'm not an
absolute expert unders but I can Ican give you the highlights. So,
so say you have four thousand acresin that and that equals I don't know
how many you know, metric tons, and then it maybe it's worth one
hundred dollars a ton. Well,a company like General Motors would go and
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those credits, and the credit meansthat the person that owns that property,
they don't sell the property, butthey can't cut the trees, right,
so for a period of years twentyto forty years, so they'll get a
good amount of money and in somecases probably more than if they even than
if they sold it. Really,because some property in East Texas is you
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know, fifteen hundred, two thousandand acre, right, So you could
and you can, you could pullpeople together like if you know the minimum
says two thousand acres, if you'vegot people that want to pool and make
an LLC, and they can sellthose carbon credits and make that money.
But that's the key is that theycan't cut that. Yeah, right,
So general motors is essentially, youknow, in a crude way, they're
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they're paying to pollute, right becausethey're manufacturing and what that you know,
the output of that is, sothey offset that by buying carbon credits.
Okay, I mean it's a littleabsurd, right, Okay, just making
sure. I was almost like acryptocurrency, that's exactly what. That's exactly
where. Yeah, when I firstheard about two, you know, but
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it's it's imaginary money that turns intoreal money. Yeah, it's a it's
it's a real thing. But youcan also look at it like an oil
and gas lease right where they ownthe surface. Sure, you know oil
and gas lease. It's kind ofthe same deal and has but the difference
oil and gas leases. Most oiland gas leases are in perpetuity, so
as long as it's producing that thatlease is in place. A carbon credit
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does have an end life, whichyou could then go and sell again.
I assume. So if thirty yearsfrom now it's a desirable commodity, I
guess. I mean, there's theway things are projected, you know,
projected to go. I don't seewhy it wouldn't, but yeah, I
don't know what do I know this, somebody will come up something else.
It'll be you know, two credits, yeah, something. I'm going to
try selling that trigger out there forcarbon credit. I think you should sell
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all these plans. I think youcould get probably eight dollars worth of carbon
credits. It's alone there. Yeah, just don't ever cut them. You
can't touch those of vegetables. Thosepepper there can't be cut ever. Yeah.
You can get enough money for maybea Starbucks coffee or something, you
know, but just every penny,right, Yeah, very interesting, very
fascinating. Uh yeah, I definitelyneed to look looking more into that.
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So we're gonna talk Chiff gearsher talka little bit of hunting. We got
about four minutes before we go intothe break. But I know you've had
a lot of great hunting adventures.I've seen the photos and things like that.
But I'm gonna call you out.I'm going to get you to tell
the moose story. Oh Lord,here we go. So the moose story,
Yes, that so I would say, yes, Divine intervention definitely definitely
part of that story. So Ihad gone to Alaska self guided hunt.
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There was a two week bow onlyseason for moose, and my wife and
I went together with my cousin andthe night the day before I had I
had already got a cariboo, sowe were just hiking around. Literally,
she saw the palms of the ofthe moose from about five six hundred yards
away. Was that big. Isaid, look, I gotta I gotta
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go after this thing. And Ihad the bow, recurve bow, didn't
have a guide with it, wasjust you, just us. Yeah,
And the thing was so that thefog is coming in and out, and
I'm leaving with my wife on thetop of this hill. There are bears,
there are wolves and things like that. And she's heavily armed and she's
a really good shot. But shestill said, she said, you know,
come back basically, And I hadmy old crap gun pistol on my
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chest with my bow, so Itold her, I said, look,
I'm going to go after this thingbecause you know, if we both go,
will you know, make too muchnoise whatever. She's watched me through
binoculars and I said, if youcan, if the if it runs or
something, I'll stop and I'll comeback. I said, but wave at
me. So the first time Iturned around, I can't see her,
and she can't see me, sofrom her perspective, she's trying to wash
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me through binoculars and she could seeI'm getting closer. And then pog a
meeting closer. So there was abig stream river, I call it stream.
It was loud, really loud,so I knew I could get close
to it. So I went overthe stream, got on the other side
of it, you know, knockedan arrow, walked around the corner and
there's the there's the moose late laiddown. It did better. Oh wow,
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he's looking at me. I'm lookingat him and I'm like, oh
crap. But he's laying in grass. So I want to be able to
see what I'm what I'm, youknow, taking a shot out here and
uh So, as I moved closerto him, he stood up. How
far are you wave at that point, I'm about the forty yards. I
getting closer to him because I needto be twenty yards with the recurve.
Okay, So I get closer andcloser. He stands up. Well,
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then he takes his head and heswings it around and he puts a hoof
on the ground, and I'm thinkinghe's going to charge me. He's absolutely
in charge me, and there's nothingbehind me but a cliff. Wait,
you need to get twenty yards withintwenty yards with with a recurve, you
do not not a compound bow that'sgot the pools. But yeah, yeah,
yea, yeah, yeah, it'sa bit. I'm just trying to
visualize how close twenty yards is toa moose. Right that'll you know,
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wreck a car. I mean,right, well, a moose. Yeah
you think I elk is big?You see a moose? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean this guy six foot atthe shoulder. Sure, his antlers
are you know, he's with thetensions just building. I'm sorry, go
ahead right now. Yeah, no, no, no problem. So I
had had a problem with my reston my my my bow, and I
knocked one. I went to shootit, it fell off, the rest
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goes ze right, and then he'she's looking at me and that Now now
I'm really mad. What are youthrowing at me? Yeah? Knock another
one, real fast, it's true, true shot, perfect shot. He
takes off, and I'm thinking he'sgoing to go downhill. Because animals are
wounded, they typically go downhill.I go downhill and the first thing I
see is a big bare bed andI'm in grass up to my head.
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Yeah. So I'm like, nope, don't see any blood, don't you
know, not going this way?So I go up and I'm just praying
he went up stressed raining, Soam I going to find blood? Luckily
that I did find blood, andI followed him to a point where he
was about to fall over, andI'm having a conversation with him this whole
time, and I'm like, look, man, just you know you think
he's he gonna he's gonna give up. The moostudes are gonna come after me.
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What am I gonna do? Alrightto pause, We gotta go to
break, all right, just forgetpick this up on. I'm not going
anywhere, all right, freeze takinga break. Honey Matters, KPRC nine
fifty, back for the rest ofthe story. Never have a ton on
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you good to me to come intoand I just can't let it be.
What is the paper all in theheart of there, you get that you
live, stay some high to I'mgonna use I remembering. Welcome back to
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Honey Matters on KPRC nine fifty.We're here today with Derek cam our guest,
and let's get back into the Moosestory because Ramon over there is biting,
biting his lip to find out whathappened. So you walk up on
this thing and and you're looking athim. He's looking at you and right,
right right, and I mean,obviously you know that. I knew
the shot was good, so Iknew it was just a matter of time.
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But I didn't know if he wasgoing to try and turn around,
crush me or whatever. So Ijust talked to him in a normal voice.
It was It's one of those youknow, I've heard it before.
I'd love to say it was myquote, but it's not. But I've
never had a spiritual experience buying astake at a grocery store, right right,
Well, fantastic line, you know, hunting, you get that every
time. Right. So anyway,he finally he falls over, he expires,
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He falls into kind of a ravine. So that made it more difficult.
But that's okay. But then whatI had to realize was I had
spent four hours, you know,stalking, yeah, and finding this animal,
and I'm, you know, ping, where's my wife? My wife
is still on his hill by herself. So I literally sprint it all the
way back. I knew. Iknew exactly where she was, so I
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spent it all the way back andand she sees me and she's she's so
excited, and she's like, didyou get it? Did you get in?
And I said yes, and shehugs me so, oh my gods,
it's amazing. And then she punchesme right in the middle of the
chest and says, you left meout here with the bears and all that.
I mean, she she was fine, but yeah, it was.
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It was an amazing trip. Ihad just bought a camera that I could
have had on my shoulder the wholetime. Yep, But I didn't think
first, well, it happened sofast and you weren't expecting to see a
moose out there, No, notreally, and uh, I know,
you know, I know you don'tyou know, you don't tell it awards.
But it turned it turned out tobe the number eleven all time Pope
and young moose. Yes with arecurve bow. What you can't just nonchalant
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that, yeah, that's extraordinary.And I was pleased. I was very
Yeah, and uh, I'm sureyou enjoyed every step of packing it out,
good Lord, Yes, yes,And and you know you can't bring
out you bring out the head last. Yeah, last, that's just that's
Alaska, right. You take everybit of meat you cannon then you so
you bring out last. And there'sa video of me, and my feet
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are like flopping because I'm so tired. They're just you know, as I'm
walking down the hill on that lasttrip, because it was probably a mile
and a half from camp. AndI don't know how many trips I did.
I don't remember, but I didn'tcare. Yeah, you have to
and you have to take everything,I mean, the neck meat, all
the meat around the ribs, everythinghas to be has to be taken,
not the bone, well that everyevery bit of meat that you can take.
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You don't have to debone the quartersand stuff. That means you're going
to carry the boat, of course, but there better not be any neck
meat left, any meat around theribs or anything. That's just their rule,
no waste. Years and years ago, there was a period of time
where people just went and you know, it's a lot of the animal,
take the head and leave it beingdone with it. Can't do that,
yeah, yeah, I mean Iwouldn't do that anyway. That's crude.
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And yeah I can see okay,yeah, yeah, but the process of
I mean, you gotta field itthere, and that's a process. I
mean I've done a deer and Imean but I can't imagine a moose,
which is four times five times biggerthan Yeah. That was. That was.
That was exceptional. They always funwhen it's cold and rainy too.
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Yeah. Actually it got unseasonably warmand that made the black class came out.
They and hordes of them, andyou're worried about bear decide and he
wants to eat it exactly we were. I figured it was going to be
wolves or bears at some point when, you know, because we couldn't do
it all one day. Yeah,right, okay, so this was a
way. Okay, this is overa period of three days. So I
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had no idea. Oh my god, and so what do you do?
You just leave it there and Imean can't pack it? Yeah, well
we were, Yeah, we packedit, but just we know so much
at a time. I mean,yeah, the wow, but the hide
was the heaviest thing. Yeah,rolled that up and put it on my
back and then I sat on aon a rock and then had my wife
and my cousin stand me up,and then I just you know, lumbered
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back, you know the camp that'scrazy. So and that then you think
about a mile and a half,you think that's not bad, but you
don't understand what you're walking through andover and the rocks and moss and everything
else is just it's like twenty miles. It really is, especially when you're
carrying something back. It's so youpack in anticipation of getting an animal like
that. Yes, I mean youhave to write so when you when it
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does happen, you're ready. Youget right, meat bags and and uh
as salt for the hide. Onething I didn't know is how well moose
fat will burn. It's an incrediblefire starter. Incredible. Well, my
cousin told me that, and he'slived in Alaska, and do you use
it? We did. That's coolwhat he did because we were up in
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the alpine and it wasn't you know, a whole lot of you know,
trees and stuff to burn, right, but moose fat, Yeah, I
heard it's great. And a ina gumbo too, that true? No?
No, well, knowing you yourcoon ass like loose fat, we've
put anything in a gumbo, yeah, as long didn't bite us or pinches
back. Yeah, we'll put weezy. And it is not known for moose,
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but I thought somehow along the waymoose fat, nutrient fat. They
say possum fat, possum fat.Never know, we have we have our
native nutrient rats, delicious rats onsteroids. Crazy, crazy, So you
took this animal with a bow.Yes, obviously you love bow hunting.
What do you love most about it? Oddly enough, I'm more comfortable with
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a recurve because it's more instinctual.You know, you don't have a you
don't have a sight, you know. But yeah, and and and the
fact the challenge of it, youknow, getting to within twenty yards of
of an animal, of any animalis difficult. Yeah, So I do
like that part about it, andI think that's the most Yeah, it's
(35:59):
it's it's the challenge, and itdefinitely levels the playing field to some degree,
to a big degree, rather thansitting in a blind and shooting from
something from hundred yards, it neverknows it's coming, right. I mean,
I still like my boostick, believeme. But no, that's that's
something that's it's it's very satisfying tobe able to do. Yeah, I
agree with you. I mean,I agree on all points of those things
(36:21):
as making it attractive and challenging.And I think I didn't come to bow
hunt until I was much older.I didn't do it as a kid.
You know. I try to.I try to. I'm left eye dominant,
so I try to shoot a friend'sbow with my right handed bow with
my left eye. When I wasa kid, missed a dough and I
was like, man, this isn'tfor me. And then, you know,
in my thirties, I think latethirties, early forties, I went
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back to bow hunting and I loveit and any opportunity I can get to
hunt with a bow, if there'sa choice, I'm going to go to
the bow every time. I'll tellyou this, and this will I don't
know if it'll make you jealous orangry or whatever. But that moose was
the first animal that I always tookwith a bow. Wow, Like I
could give up the stop. Stop. That's cool. That's cool though.
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No, I'm not mad at all. Yeah, I'm not mad at that
at all. That's a great,great experience. So what's an advantage over
a recurve bow over a compound bow. Well, there's not an advantage really
with a compound. When you pullit back, you have a let off
and you can you can hold itthere with a recurve, You're just it's
all one motion, and you knowyou're not aiming through a site per se.
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You don't have the power, andthat's why you got to get close
and that's why it's going to bea really good shot. So it didn't
look like there was many advantages tohave on one. But I mean,
I can see why you'd want touse that if you know you get right
on an animal. I'm sure it'sa rush man like anything else. And
so when I when I went huntingmuskos in Greenland, they wouldn't let me.
(37:50):
No hunt with a recurve. AndI said, look, man,
I thing. I mean it's biggerthan your you know musk I mean muskcocks
are big. Yeah, but theywouldn't let me because the thickness of the
high or now. They just justthink I could do it. So would
that make you use a compound bowor no? And I didn't. I
just had my rifle. Okay,at that point I didn't have like a
barbarian with the rifle. Get here. Oh, I got stories about Greenland
(38:13):
too, But that's for another time. Greenland. Nice. Yeah, man,
there's a I got a ton ofquestions here, but I'm gonna let
the next show that we're not off. We're gonna We're just gonna just make
them break the door down and cometake the drag us off. People standing
outside, they'll come, y'all comefrom our cold, dead hands. Charlton.
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Well, but because we only havea few seconds left here, I'm
gonna go to go to a throwaway question. But I always like to
get your input. What's your favoritemovie that's got hunting in it or center
around hunting, whether it's centered onhunting or even hunting in it. Well,
well, okay, so it's kindof an obvious choice, but it's
kind of a dark movie. Butthe Deer Hunter is it's tough. Yeah,
(39:00):
but it said good will hunting.But that's all right. Yeah,
probably some different mind's Legends of theFall. I think top of Mind that's
such a good, great movie.Let's go watch say, let's go watch
guys and you make the popcorn.We'll hold hands and we'll watch Brad Pett
kill. Oops, you'll have toedit that out. We're doing, Yeah,
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we're doing. See you next week. The money matters k RC nine,
fifteen thirty kids and the dolls will
Tradition, conservation, family, theodors. It matters to you, it
matters to us. This is HuntingMatters presented by Houston Safari Club Foundation.
Here's Joe Bitar. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to Honeymtters on KPRC nine
(00:23):
to fifty. This is your host, Joe Vitar. I am Ramone Robluss.
Uh the award winning Ramone Roebuss.I didn't want to brag ben the
award winning Joe Bitar. Well,we are co hosts. Yeah, how
about that another award? And uhyeah, I gotta recognize for co host
Silver Award for co hosts. Iguess that's the second place, but I'll
take it. At least it's nota participation trophy. We're gonna have to
(00:44):
build another wing your award hanging upsome of them over there. I saw
a couple of them in the bathroom. What you been up to getting ready
for Halloween? Yeah? We gotthe Halloween thing. The big thing is
my kids decided on costumes going hisPikachu and some character from Minecraft. Are
you familiar with Minecraft? Familiar withit? But don't me either. I
(01:07):
didn't know there were really characters,but my oldest going is minecraft and cool.
What was really cool was last weekendduring the eclipse. The youngest one,
Oliver, wanted to go out andlook at it. Perfect weather,
everything, but he insisted on goinghis Pikachu. So if you looked at
the family, there's all of uswith our little glasses on, and then
the fourth member is Pikachu looking throughhis glasses. That's hilarious. It's nice
to have a six year old manfive and a half year old. They're
(01:30):
so fun your perspective. You know, what is really not that important that
I do blank Right, All thiskid wants to do is put on this
slloween costume on sunglasses, go outside, look at the look at the eclipse'
that's pretty cool. Yeah, andthat was a highlight. Man. He
was so happy to run around thisPikachu. Thank goodness for fall man.
This weather's been and it's something forredible. I know, it's like it gets
blow of nine. He's like,I need, I need a wrap.
(01:52):
But it was like high forties thisweek and you know the windows open.
I mean that first day when youcan finally open the windows, when you
gotta get w forty aah for thefirst window opening. We did that.
We cleaned window seals and straight allthe windows and got that done. So
yeah, that's one of my favoritetimes of the year. And the sore
throats and the running noses come.But that's okay. It's a fall price
(02:13):
to pay. That's just part ofit. My kids were complaining that it
was chilly, and I said,boys, remember back in June and July.
Remember two weeks ago, Remember whenwe were talking about how we would
just sweat walk into the car.Yeah, no more. Oh man,
Thank goodness for fall hunting season.You good. We got anything going on
with the Safari Club, anything happening. Let's see, in November eighth,
we're gonna have us law shields.It could be in our office, and
(02:36):
we're going to do a first aidfor a gunshot wound victims. That's going
to be a really cool course.Unfortunately, it's becoming more and more of
necessity. You never know what you'regoing to run into out there in the
public and the public forum. Butwe'll be doing that course on November eighth.
December seventh, we'll be having ourbig annual Christmas party out at the
Barn in Cyprus, Texas. Inthe nineteenth or twenty first of January doing
(02:58):
this little three day thing we callthe annual Worldwide Expo Convention. Is that
a thing still? It's we're thinkingabout it. They not having a convention
again next year, but we aremoving that back to the Woodlands. We've
been downtown for a few years andwe're going back to the Woodlands Waterway,
Mariot and Conference Center and you canlearn about all those events that we hunt.
We give dot org. You donot have to be a member to
attend our convention or our events,but we'd love for you to sign up.
(03:20):
Now, my wife, you know, works for a US law shield
yep, and she does this thingwhere she dresses up as a nurse.
Okay, now, is that anyIs that in any way related to this
November a thing? Is she showingup for this deal? Well, I
don't know. She tells you she'sbusy that night or you know what.
I'm gonna have to talk to her. I have questions, yeah, okay,
I have a lot of questions.Now, just what you just told
me that your life, your wifelikes to dress up as a nurse.
(03:42):
Yeah, I thought that was yourthing. You are actually the only nurse
sitting at this table. I ama certified professional something you have to keep
your license up or anything with it. If I practice have to keep my
license active. My my license isin what do they call it? Not
suspended, but uh, what's theword is it? Like, uh,
(04:03):
what do you call that? Limbo? Limbo? It's it's in professional nursing
limbo. Yeah, but I can. I can go back and take courses
and take certifications and where you can'tdescribe me any medicine or okay, then
it's I can pump your chest ifyou coad go out on the floor,
I can do CPR. And ifI go into cardiac arrest, you could
maybe yeah, advanced cardiac life support. I can do all that. I
(04:24):
told you. My kid was called. It was right in the back of
an amblance. Did I tell youthis story already? No, Well it's
we can save it for another time. But the teas is I got a
call from school saying, come pickup your kid, take them to urgent
care, and okay, on myway. Then I got a call on
the way saying, hey, wewent ahead and called nine to one one.
Oh, so I thought I toldyou that, But well that'll be
(04:45):
okay, that's interesting. I'll saveit for the Breakers. But he's okay,
yeah, he's obviously I didn't leadwith that. You're still here,
so you're not You're doing the podcast, so good. Look that's always scary
and you get yeah, mister robsUh calling about your child. It's always
scary. I got a bunch ofthose calls. Yeah, I'm school nurse.
Anyway, go to we hunt wegive dot org. Check out all
(05:06):
the cool stuff's happening with Houston's FarClub Foundation and banquet tickets are on sale
for the expo. You pre purchasedexpo hal tickets and banquet tickets. Going
to have a live entertainment. We'regonna have a lot of auction items,
live auctions. Three times during theweekend. We have a raffle. The
ladies group our Gazelle's is going tohave a big banquet in silent auction.
So it's all there on the websiteat we hunt we give dot org.
(05:28):
And if you are not there thenineteenth or the twenty first of January,
you are missing out. I meanhere we are October the twenty second.
Yeah, and we're talking about theexpo because it's literally two months away.
Yeah, I know, I'm ahalf mone hard to believe. You know,
it'll be Thanksgiving, Halloween, Thanksgiving, Christmas, Boom, New Year's
Eve over here. I don't know. And it goes quicker the older you
get. So our guest today's Derekcam. Derek is a life member of
(05:53):
Houston's Far Club Foundation. He hasserved on various committees. He's on our
board of directors, and Derek's beenvery involved with Hospar Club and a lot
of different outdoor organizations. We're goingto talk a little bit about that and
talk a little bit about his deepdark secrets that he's not for shared before.
He's got some things to reveal ontoday's podcast. So Derek, welcome,
Thank you, thanks, thanks forhaving me back. Good lord,
(06:16):
I'm a little nervous, no question. So what's your Halloween costume going to
be this year? Actually, probablynothing because we're going to pretend like we're
not at home. Well, wehad all this trouble with our foundation,
right, Yeah, I think Itold you, Oh yeah, the foundation
of the house. No, it'snone of my business, but yeah no,
And it's been going on for likeoff and on for three years,
(06:39):
and so we finally got the righttools and people that we needed to fix
it all and but the front ofour house looks a little apocalyptic and which
yeah, yeah, I know youtakes out there, you're good to go,
but you know, we got togo get the stuff out of storage
and all that, and we're justexhausted. What's the Halloween equivalent of the
Grinch of Christmas? Because this ishim, what would be an equivalent night?
(07:03):
Well, no, no, notthere before Christmas? Now you mean
like a Grinch Halloween guy? Yeah, the opposite of No, but Halloween's
like my favorite holiday, it reallyis. But you're you're turning off the
lights. I say that when Iall right, we won't. I mean,
it's none of my business. I'lldress up. Let's go ahead and
give out your address on the airright now, so we'll we'll make sure
we have lots of people there.If you'll loan me your nurse out,
(07:26):
yeah, actually, just get himto show up and it's all you need.
There's a fee associated a little bit. It's my standard, twenty five
dollars an hour fee plus I'll scarethe kids at all. Oh man,
Derek, we've I think, uhwe've talked about this before, but uh,
we're going to talk about your someof your hunting experiences and things like
(07:46):
that. But you actually started yourcareer out in La Yes, yes,
in the music industry. If I'myes, tell us a little bit about
that. So. Yeah, SoI actually got my degrees in in film
and English. So I went outto to be in the film industry,
right, drove out there with fivehundred bucks in a seventy nine Cadillac and
(08:07):
uh yeah, and started I hadI had worked in a music store and
then basically I bluffed my way intoto getting into uh to work for for
Virgin Entertainment. Wow. You know, they saw the degrees and they asked
a bunch of questions and I said, yeah, you know, I'm thinking
about going to law school and allthis stuff, which I really wasn't.
But so I just worked my waythrough, you know those guys, and
(08:31):
ended up being the last position Ihad there. I was in charge of
like anything music related that wasn't inan auditorium, like like a store event,
like a signing or anything like that. So I had to head up
logistics and whatnot. It was.It was a blast. That's awesome.
Awesome, We'll pick that up onthe other side. Taking a break,
here on Honeymatter's KPRC nine to fifty. Yeah. Song always gives me the
(09:18):
crepes. Yeah, it's iconic.Based on last year's candy handout, we
didn't get much traffic here because welive in an older neighborhood right out of
kids. So I thought about splurgeona little bit and be in that house.
Yeah, full candy bars. Yeah, what do you think? Good
(09:39):
idea? Bad? I like funsize really yeah, these kids don't deserveiant
candy bars, man, but I'dlike that reputation. Ever since I was
a kid, there was always thathouse that had the full candy bars.
That's true as an adult now,I do remember that house. When I
was a kid. It was thebest decorated house and it had the best
candy. Well, you don't youdon't want to be the house that hands
out like tooth rushes and today becausethere's there's one of those. Usually there's
(10:03):
a house down here that gives outlike granola and raisins. I'm torn between
what we're going to do this yeartoo, gonna be avocado or sushi?
Front thing is sushi? Yeah?Yeah, stinkyback By the time you get
out pretty much good idea, welcomeback to Honting Matters KPRC nine fifty.
This is yours, Joe Bit andwe're joined today of our guest, Derek
Ham. Derek is HSCF Houston FarkoFoundation life member, remember the board of
(10:26):
directors, and also he is involvedwith a company a little bit of a
few hours out of his day calledRupe Ol Ranch and Land. Derek,
thanks for being here, Thank you, thank us again for having me back.
You bet we talked a little bitabout your your entree in the music
industry and any any dirty secret youwant to reveal on the show that you've
never told before. I know Ramonehas some questions never showers. But you
(10:50):
know, somebody told me I admet Brad Pitt one of our things,
right he showed up for I thinkit was a stinky Brad Pitt and that's
what. Yeah. Somebody was like, oh, got the stinks never obeys,
and I was like, man,the guy didn't stink to me.
He was really nice. Yeah whatever. You know, he and Bruce Willis
were probably the nicest people out outthere. Cool. That's good to hear
(11:13):
because I like them both. Sothat's yeah, yeah, yeah, Brad
Pitt's handsomeness overcomes his owner. Iguess yeah. I'd heard the same thing
though, that he never showers,that he's you know, his own used
his own scent or whatever. Rightnow, Derek, I'm on your website,
which is well, I'm looking atthis website. Does that look familiar
to you? That looks very familiar? Okay, And I'm just going through
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the future properties and after fact,anytime during the show, can we just
have a handshake deal on any oneof these that I decided to buy?
Oh yeah, I mean if Ilike, for example, just that one,
all right, I want that,and then we shake and then and
then and then yeah, it's it'spretty much a done deal. Yeah,
no, all right, in noway, shape or form. No,
Okay, Well, it's worth It'sworth an ask because I have had somebody
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show up look at a property andthen tell me, hey, I'm gonna
pay you extra fee and then I'mbringing a suitcase of money tomorrow. And
I said, no, we can'tdo that. You can't just pay with
you can't pay me with cash.And that's what he wanted to do.
That's absurd. They were a littlesuspect because they drove up in a really
nice Bentley. Yeah. Literally,when the doors opened up, smoke came
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out. Oh yeah, well Ijust meant, as far as you know,
it's off the market, and ohwe start the paperwork and start that
process. Verbal is uh enforceable?Yes, well, and we hate shake
and we do it on the FCCregulated airwaves, so it's ceteral. All
right. There's a lot backing youup. Yeah, I agree, I
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agree. I know this is totallyoff the subject. But you guys were
talking about land exchanges and people showingup. Did you guys see in the
news this week has nothing to dowith anywhere. Arkansas became the first state
to take back land from a stateChinese state owned company. Yeah. I
wondered when that was coming. Yes, it's good. I wonder I did
it this week or today or sometimerecently. You know, people have been
telling me, you know, theland that they've gotten in Texas. It's
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near you know, military air basesand stuff like that. You know,
what are we going to do?I was like, well, at some
point somebody in the government's going tosay, you know what, you can't
have that anymore. Yeah, Iknow, Abbot's talked about it. Yeah,
Texas, I think tried it,and I think it. I mean
I think they tried it. Yeahyeah, but Sarah Hokabee made it happen.
So they've got a presidence. Now. Sarah Huckaby is not playing around,
right. I like her. Shecould run for president. Probably give
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her a nod there, but Jesus, he's no nonsense. So you were
in the music industry and then youdid you make a transition over to land
and real estate and in a way, actually, so long, long story
short, my father became ill.I moved back to Texas for a short
period of time, and when Imoved back to La I got into construction.
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Okay, we flipped homes and mymother got ill. Came back to
Houston, said I wasn't going tolose another parent, and started working in
commercial construction, own my own company. Commercial construction got old fast. After
about eight years. It's tough,and I decided I wanted to do something
that involved less screaming and yelling.So I made a call to a broker
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into this what I want to do, and by the end of the week
I had a job offer. Andthe way I went, so are you
are you a broker with Rupel?No, you're an agent. I am
agent. Okay, Okay. There'sbeen rumors about doing something along those lines
because Rupel wants to expand, rightand needs to expand. Yeah, so
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yeah, okay. And you dealwith a lot of rural ranches and that
type of property, which I'm surehas its own unique set of challenges and
things like that. You're dealing withsomething a little more large scale than half
an acre and a house on itmost of the time. But you know,
you know what I mean, there'sthere are properties out there where people
they really they need the help,and a lot of agents they won't take
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their their listing because they may havetwenty six you know people airs involved,
which I do have one right now, and then there's twenty six people,
you know, and and those peopleneed a special kind of help. So
I feel like if I do enoughof those and you know, you get
a reputation and people are gonna,you know, say nice things about you,
it's good karma, and you're gonnaget bigger and better listings. What's
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what's the you know, because we'vehad people on you know, your buddies
over at Capital Farm Credit have beenon back then a year or two ago,
when the heyday was they couldn't getthe they couldn't get the loans of
proved fast enough, couldn't People were, you know, but flooding to Texas
out of California and other states tryingto in buying property. What's the status
of the real estate market now?Cash cash still almost allmost every sale is
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cash or ten thirty one exchange.So yeah, all of them, even
my most recent one was was cash. So it's it's just that's that's what
it's turned into. You know,people want to something safe to put their
money into, and land is alwaysgoing to be safe, so it just
hasn't the you know, the marketis still, in my opinion, strong,
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and with land, we're still seeingthe influx of people from out of
state, mostly or these in stateor mainly in state in my in my
experience, sure it's been I meanI hear people that say, hey,
I had somebody California, somebody whatever. I mean, I did have somebody
from China that I dealt with ona property, but that didn't it didn't
pan out, okay, So butnow it's still everybody I deal with still
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is predominantly from Texas. I'm lookingat these houses and property. Yeah,
I got to do something with mylife. Man. Yeah, we'll grow
up one day, just like SteveMartin says, you know, I finally
feeled out. I figured out howto be a millionaire. First to get
a million dollars then go from there. Yeah. So, how much time
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are we having this? We wegot a minute, had a minute?
Tell us I know you in aminute or less. U probably your most
recent funniest interaction out on property.Somebody come out and said, you know,
here's forty thousand here's I don't knowa thousand acres. Do you have
deer on it? Or whatever?I mean, I'm sure you've had things
happen. I've had funny scary moment. But you know, it is Halloween,
(17:03):
so maybe we could talk about Yeah. So, so someone came out
to look at a property and therethey were I don't want to stay from
the city because hey, I'm inthe city, right, But they had
zero experience with ranch property. Andthis ranch property was big enough where you
know, on ranches you have towatch out for predators and coddies and stuff
like that, so you might havea rifle or a gun or two somewhere.
So this guy's walking around the houseand he picks up this gun and
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he points it literally at me.He says, I think this thing is
loaded. Oh no, And Isaid, you need to take a step
back, and you need to giveme that gun. And then he swings
it the other direction and I said, well, now you're pointing at your
son. So I literally had totake it away from him and put it
down. Oh wow. And Ihad a little conversation with an agent.
But how can you not know whatan idiot any rifle? Any rifle?
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Yeah, and this is any gun, right so yeah, obviously no,
no, no experience or exposure tofirearms. Yeah. So anyway, which
is why it's a good case foryou to go to a firearm safety course
any chance you can get. Takinga break here on Honeymaters kPr C nine
fifty C. After the break stillhell Lisa, still easy season the right
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all you love it? Leaveing metake my side? Sounding reason so rid
stime fire side. They just performedme California again. Yeah they so good.
(19:00):
Yeah, I heard it was great. I heard they were the highlight
of the show. Yeah. Yougot to get out there and see those
bands. I know they charge.Yeah. Four hundred dollars a ticket.
But man, ten years from now, ac DC's not gonna be No.
I saw ACDC last tour when theywere here in Houston worth every penny.
I mean, it was incredible,incredible. I never saw when I was
a kid, so finally got tosee them. Welcome back to Honey Matters
(19:21):
KPRC nine fifty. This is yourhost Joe Beta and Ramon Roeblus winning stays
our guest Derek cam Derek, onceagain, thanks so much for joining us.
Thank you. Let's talk a littlebit about We're going to talk about
hunting eventually. But you were recentlyinvolved in the historical sale of a certain
ranch, right, yes, tellus about that. So, yes,
the Tigner ranch. We closed onthat I think about a month ago.
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Now historical sale. What makes ithistorical? So the family had owned the
property almost one hundred and fifty years, okay, right, and one of
the Tigners was one of the originalpeople that wrote the charter for the City
of Houston. So yeah, andthey they yeah, they've had that property
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and property around that area for formany many years. Wow. So it
it caught the attention of media outlets. Houston Business Journal, Channel two eleven,
several other outlets. So, Imean I was getting calls from California,
from Michigan, from California again,from yeah, the East coast,
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you know it. And but itwas time, it was time for the
family to cellidate. Yeah, somany airs that were involved and that it
just uh, it was a goodtime for them to do that. So
yeah, that's cool. Yeah.Was that a big is a big property
or just a six hundred and fiftyseven acres? Wow? Where is that
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again? And it is just southof Sienna Plantation? Oh okay, yeah,
land south of town. Yeah.You can almost see downtown Houston from
that property. Wow. So tobe able to find it, but you
know, it was it was ait was a challenge. They had had
it on they'd had it listed severaltimes in the past five or six years.
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But someone had literally kept my cardthat I met five years ago.
Oh wow, and that's how thatyeah, and that's that's you know.
I guess she found the card andsaid, hey, let's try this guy.
Wow. And I had seen itlisted, but it was listed as
a commercial property, and I said, now you got to list it as
a multipurpose. And that's what wedid you know it was. It's a
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heck of an investment. Yeah,but you know you could have it as
a as a recreational property to holdon to it. Ninety nine is coming
through there at some point it'll beworth a lot more. Yeah, that's
great. That's crazy when you sayninety nine will be coming through there,
it'll be worth more in terms ofselling it for business for commercial purposes.
Correct, correct, Yeah, Ithought you met imminent domain coming and buying
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it up or something. Yeah,No, it's ninety nine probably. Well
the plan is just south of there, Okay, So yeah, fantastic.
Yeah, that's crazy something you andI talked about with a mutual mutual friend
of ours. And I don't thinka lot of people know about it.
I'm not really even though I've discussedor heard the talk about it. Carbon
credits people that are buying land orhave land, and I know you've done
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a little bit of research on thatrecently. Let's talk about carbon credits a
little bit. So carbon credits.So East Texas is a really good market
for carbon credits. And the reasonthat it is is is so there are
companies, there's a few companies outthere they buy carbon credits and a carbon
credit is uncut Timberland, right,is worth so much a ton. I
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say so much because I think it'sdifferent different areas, So I'm not an
absolute expert unders but I can Ican give you the highlights. So,
so say you have four thousand acresin that and that equals I don't know
how many you know, metric tons, and then it maybe it's worth one
hundred dollars a ton. Well,a company like General Motors would go and
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those credits, and the credit meansthat the person that owns that property,
they don't sell the property, butthey can't cut the trees, right,
so for a period of years twentyto forty years, so they'll get a
good amount of money and in somecases probably more than if they even than
if they sold it. Really,because some property in East Texas is you
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know, fifteen hundred, two thousandand acre, right, So you could
and you can, you could pullpeople together like if you know the minimum
says two thousand acres, if you'vegot people that want to pool and make
an LLC, and they can sellthose carbon credits and make that money.
But that's the key is that theycan't cut that. Yeah, right,
So general motors is essentially, youknow, in a crude way, they're
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they're paying to pollute, right becausethey're manufacturing and what that you know,
the output of that is, sothey offset that by buying carbon credits.
Okay, I mean it's a littleabsurd, right, Okay, just making
sure. I was almost like acryptocurrency, that's exactly what. That's exactly
where. Yeah, when I firstheard about two, you know, but
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it's it's imaginary money that turns intoreal money. Yeah, it's a it's
it's a real thing. But youcan also look at it like an oil
and gas lease right where they ownthe surface. Sure, you know oil
and gas lease. It's kind ofthe same deal and has but the difference
oil and gas leases. Most oiland gas leases are in perpetuity, so
as long as it's producing that thatlease is in place. A carbon credit
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does have an end life, whichyou could then go and sell again.
I assume. So if thirty yearsfrom now it's a desirable commodity, I
guess. I mean, there's theway things are projected, you know,
projected to go. I don't seewhy it wouldn't, but yeah, I
don't know what do I know this, somebody will come up something else.
It'll be you know, two credits, yeah, something. I'm going to
try selling that trigger out there forcarbon credit. I think you should sell
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all these plans. I think youcould get probably eight dollars worth of carbon
credits. It's alone there. Yeah, just don't ever cut them. You
can't touch those of vegetables. Thosepepper there can't be cut ever. Yeah.
You can get enough money for maybea Starbucks coffee or something, you
know, but just every penny,right, Yeah, very interesting, very
fascinating. Uh yeah, I definitelyneed to look looking more into that.
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So we're gonna talk Chiff gearsher talka little bit of hunting. We got
about four minutes before we go intothe break. But I know you've had
a lot of great hunting adventures.I've seen the photos and things like that.
But I'm gonna call you out.I'm going to get you to tell
the moose story. Oh Lord,here we go. So the moose story,
Yes, that so I would say, yes, Divine intervention definitely definitely
part of that story. So Ihad gone to Alaska self guided hunt.
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There was a two week bow onlyseason for moose, and my wife and
I went together with my cousin andthe night the day before I had I
had already got a cariboo, sowe were just hiking around. Literally,
she saw the palms of the ofthe moose from about five six hundred yards
away. Was that big. Isaid, look, I gotta I gotta
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go after this thing. And Ihad the bow, recurve bow, didn't
have a guide with it, wasjust you, just us. Yeah,
And the thing was so that thefog is coming in and out, and
I'm leaving with my wife on thetop of this hill. There are bears,
there are wolves and things like that. And she's heavily armed and she's
a really good shot. But shestill said, she said, you know,
come back basically, And I hadmy old crap gun pistol on my
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chest with my bow, so Itold her, I said, look,
I'm going to go after this thingbecause you know, if we both go,
will you know, make too muchnoise whatever. She's watched me through
binoculars and I said, if youcan, if the if it runs or
something, I'll stop and I'll comeback. I said, but wave at
me. So the first time Iturned around, I can't see her,
and she can't see me, sofrom her perspective, she's trying to wash
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me through binoculars and she could seeI'm getting closer. And then pog a
meeting closer. So there was abig stream river, I call it stream.
It was loud, really loud,so I knew I could get close
to it. So I went overthe stream, got on the other side
of it, you know, knockedan arrow, walked around the corner and
there's the there's the moose late laiddown. It did better. Oh wow,
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he's looking at me. I'm lookingat him and I'm like, oh
crap. But he's laying in grass. So I want to be able to
see what I'm what I'm, youknow, taking a shot out here and
uh So, as I moved closerto him, he stood up. How
far are you wave at that point, I'm about the forty yards. I
getting closer to him because I needto be twenty yards with the recurve.
Okay, So I get closer andcloser. He stands up. Well,
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then he takes his head and heswings it around and he puts a hoof
on the ground, and I'm thinkinghe's going to charge me. He's absolutely
in charge me, and there's nothingbehind me but a cliff. Wait,
you need to get twenty yards withintwenty yards with with a recurve, you
do not not a compound bow that'sgot the pools. But yeah, yeah,
yea, yeah, yeah, it'sa bit. I'm just trying to
visualize how close twenty yards is toa moose. Right that'll you know,
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wreck a car. I mean,right, well, a moose. Yeah
you think I elk is big?You see a moose? Yeah? Yeah,
I mean this guy six foot atthe shoulder. Sure, his antlers
are you know, he's with thetensions just building. I'm sorry, go
ahead right now. Yeah, no, no, no problem. So I
had had a problem with my reston my my my bow, and I
knocked one. I went to shootit, it fell off, the rest
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goes ze right, and then he'she's looking at me and that Now now
I'm really mad. What are youthrowing at me? Yeah? Knock another
one, real fast, it's true, true shot, perfect shot. He
takes off, and I'm thinking he'sgoing to go downhill. Because animals are
wounded, they typically go downhill.I go downhill and the first thing I
see is a big bare bed andI'm in grass up to my head.
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Yeah. So I'm like, nope, don't see any blood, don't you
know, not going this way?So I go up and I'm just praying
he went up stressed raining, Soam I going to find blood? Luckily
that I did find blood, andI followed him to a point where he
was about to fall over, andI'm having a conversation with him this whole
time, and I'm like, look, man, just you know you think
he's he gonna he's gonna give up. The moostudes are gonna come after me.
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What am I gonna do? Alrightto pause, We gotta go to
break, all right, just forgetpick this up on. I'm not going
anywhere, all right, freeze takinga break. Honey Matters, KPRC nine
fifty, back for the rest ofthe story. Never have a ton on
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you good to me to come intoand I just can't let it be.
What is the paper all in theheart of there, you get that you
live, stay some high to I'mgonna use I remembering. Welcome back to
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Honey Matters on KPRC nine fifty.We're here today with Derek cam our guest,
and let's get back into the Moosestory because Ramon over there is biting,
biting his lip to find out whathappened. So you walk up on
this thing and and you're looking athim. He's looking at you and right,
right right, and I mean,obviously you know that. I knew
the shot was good, so Iknew it was just a matter of time.
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But I didn't know if he wasgoing to try and turn around,
crush me or whatever. So Ijust talked to him in a normal voice.
It was It's one of those youknow, I've heard it before.
I'd love to say it was myquote, but it's not. But I've
never had a spiritual experience buying astake at a grocery store, right right,
Well, fantastic line, you know, hunting, you get that every
time. Right. So anyway,he finally he falls over, he expires,
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He falls into kind of a ravine. So that made it more difficult.
But that's okay. But then whatI had to realize was I had
spent four hours, you know,stalking, yeah, and finding this animal,
and I'm, you know, ping, where's my wife? My wife
is still on his hill by herself. So I literally sprint it all the
way back. I knew. Iknew exactly where she was, so I
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spent it all the way back andand she sees me and she's she's so
excited, and she's like, didyou get it? Did you get in?
And I said yes, and shehugs me so, oh my gods,
it's amazing. And then she punchesme right in the middle of the
chest and says, you left meout here with the bears and all that.
I mean, she she was fine, but yeah, it was.
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It was an amazing trip. Ihad just bought a camera that I could
have had on my shoulder the wholetime. Yep, But I didn't think
first, well, it happened sofast and you weren't expecting to see a
moose out there, No, notreally, and uh, I know,
you know, I know you don'tyou know, you don't tell it awards.
But it turned it turned out tobe the number eleven all time Pope
and young moose. Yes with arecurve bow. What you can't just nonchalant
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that, yeah, that's extraordinary.And I was pleased. I was very
Yeah, and uh, I'm sureyou enjoyed every step of packing it out,
good Lord, Yes, yes,And and you know you can't bring
out you bring out the head last. Yeah, last, that's just that's
Alaska, right. You take everybit of meat you cannon then you so
you bring out last. And there'sa video of me, and my feet
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are like flopping because I'm so tired. They're just you know, as I'm
walking down the hill on that lasttrip, because it was probably a mile
and a half from camp. AndI don't know how many trips I did.
I don't remember, but I didn'tcare. Yeah, you have to
and you have to take everything,I mean, the neck meat, all
the meat around the ribs, everythinghas to be has to be taken,
not the bone, well that everyevery bit of meat that you can take.
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You don't have to debone the quartersand stuff. That means you're going
to carry the boat, of course, but there better not be any neck
meat left, any meat around theribs or anything. That's just their rule,
no waste. Years and years ago, there was a period of time
where people just went and you know, it's a lot of the animal,
take the head and leave it beingdone with it. Can't do that,
yeah, yeah, I mean Iwouldn't do that anyway. That's crude.
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And yeah I can see okay,yeah, yeah, but the process of
I mean, you gotta field itthere, and that's a process. I
mean I've done a deer and Imean but I can't imagine a moose,
which is four times five times biggerthan Yeah. That was. That was.
That was exceptional. They always funwhen it's cold and rainy too.
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Yeah. Actually it got unseasonably warmand that made the black class came out.
They and hordes of them, andyou're worried about bear decide and he
wants to eat it exactly we were. I figured it was going to be
wolves or bears at some point when, you know, because we couldn't do
it all one day. Yeah,right, okay, so this was a
way. Okay, this is overa period of three days. So I
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had no idea. Oh my god, and so what do you do?
You just leave it there and Imean can't pack it? Yeah, well
we were, Yeah, we packedit, but just we know so much
at a time. I mean,yeah, the wow, but the hide
was the heaviest thing. Yeah,rolled that up and put it on my
back and then I sat on aon a rock and then had my wife
and my cousin stand me up,and then I just you know, lumbered
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back, you know the camp that'scrazy. So and that then you think
about a mile and a half,you think that's not bad, but you
don't understand what you're walking through andover and the rocks and moss and everything
else is just it's like twenty miles. It really is, especially when you're
carrying something back. It's so youpack in anticipation of getting an animal like
that. Yes, I mean youhave to write so when you when it
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does happen, you're ready. Youget right, meat bags and and uh
as salt for the hide. Onething I didn't know is how well moose
fat will burn. It's an incrediblefire starter. Incredible. Well, my
cousin told me that, and he'slived in Alaska, and do you use
it? We did. That's coolwhat he did because we were up in
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the alpine and it wasn't you know, a whole lot of you know,
trees and stuff to burn, right, but moose fat, Yeah, I
heard it's great. And a ina gumbo too, that true? No?
No, well, knowing you yourcoon ass like loose fat, we've
put anything in a gumbo, yeah, as long didn't bite us or pinches
back. Yeah, we'll put weezy. And it is not known for moose,
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but I thought somehow along the waymoose fat, nutrient fat. They
say possum fat, possum fat.Never know, we have we have our
native nutrient rats, delicious rats onsteroids. Crazy, crazy, So you
took this animal with a bow.Yes, obviously you love bow hunting.
What do you love most about it? Oddly enough, I'm more comfortable with
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a recurve because it's more instinctual.You know, you don't have a you
don't have a sight, you know. But yeah, and and and the
fact the challenge of it, youknow, getting to within twenty yards of
of an animal, of any animalis difficult. Yeah, So I do
like that part about it, andI think that's the most Yeah, it's
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it's it's the challenge, and itdefinitely levels the playing field to some degree,
to a big degree, rather thansitting in a blind and shooting from
something from hundred yards, it neverknows it's coming, right. I mean,
I still like my boostick, believeme. But no, that's that's
something that's it's it's very satisfying tobe able to do. Yeah, I
agree with you. I mean,I agree on all points of those things
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as making it attractive and challenging.And I think I didn't come to bow
hunt until I was much older.I didn't do it as a kid.
You know. I try to.I try to. I'm left eye dominant,
so I try to shoot a friend'sbow with my right handed bow with
my left eye. When I wasa kid, missed a dough and I
was like, man, this isn'tfor me. And then, you know,
in my thirties, I think latethirties, early forties, I went
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back to bow hunting and I loveit and any opportunity I can get to
hunt with a bow, if there'sa choice, I'm going to go to
the bow every time. I'll tellyou this, and this will I don't
know if it'll make you jealous orangry or whatever. But that moose was
the first animal that I always tookwith a bow. Wow, Like I
could give up the stop. Stop. That's cool. That's cool though.
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No, I'm not mad at all. Yeah, I'm not mad at that
at all. That's a great,great experience. So what's an advantage over
a recurve bow over a compound bow. Well, there's not an advantage really
with a compound. When you pullit back, you have a let off
and you can you can hold itthere with a recurve, You're just it's
all one motion, and you knowyou're not aiming through a site per se.
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You don't have the power, andthat's why you got to get close
and that's why it's going to bea really good shot. So it didn't
look like there was many advantages tohave on one. But I mean,
I can see why you'd want touse that if you know you get right
on an animal. I'm sure it'sa rush man like anything else. And
so when I when I went huntingmuskos in Greenland, they wouldn't let me.
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No hunt with a recurve. AndI said, look, man,
I thing. I mean it's biggerthan your you know musk I mean muskcocks
are big. Yeah, but theywouldn't let me because the thickness of the
high or now. They just justthink I could do it. So would
that make you use a compound bowor no? And I didn't. I
just had my rifle. Okay,at that point I didn't have like a
barbarian with the rifle. Get here. Oh, I got stories about Greenland
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too, But that's for another time. Greenland. Nice. Yeah, man,
there's a I got a ton ofquestions here, but I'm gonna let
the next show that we're not off. We're gonna We're just gonna just make
them break the door down and cometake the drag us off. People standing
outside, they'll come, y'all comefrom our cold, dead hands. Charlton.
(38:35):
Well, but because we only havea few seconds left here, I'm
gonna go to go to a throwaway question. But I always like to
get your input. What's your favoritemovie that's got hunting in it or center
around hunting, whether it's centered onhunting or even hunting in it. Well,
well, okay, so it's kindof an obvious choice, but it's
kind of a dark movie. Butthe Deer Hunter is it's tough. Yeah,
(39:00):
but it said good will hunting.But that's all right. Yeah,
probably some different mind's Legends of theFall. I think top of Mind that's
such a good, great movie.Let's go watch say, let's go watch
guys and you make the popcorn.We'll hold hands and we'll watch Brad Pett
kill. Oops, you'll have toedit that out. We're doing, Yeah,
(39:20):
we're doing. See you next week. The money matters k RC nine,
fifteen thirty kids and the dolls will
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