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June 18, 2025 • 13 mins
Cheri Brinkman is an educator, historian and author who has memorialized some of Cincinnati's iconic cuisine in a series of cookbooks with the original recipes. Her passion is teaching people about Cincinnati history and what makes the Queen City, and the Tri-State so special.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Sandy Collins and this is iHeart Cinci, a Tri
State public affairs show. One of the best parts of
this program is to be able to meet the great
neighbors that we have here in the Tri State. My
next guest is here to talk about what is interesting
in Cincinnati. She's an author, an educator, and a historian.
From her cookbooks with local Cincinnati favorite recipes, the facts

(00:21):
about Cincinnati and what makes it unique. Sherry Brinkman, Welcome
to iHeart Cinsey. So glad to have you here. I
came across you in some of your Cincinnati history work
and reached out because you seem to have your thumb
on the pulse of Cincinnati through books, through lectures, and

(00:41):
education and speaking engagement. So I wanted to meet you
and find out all about you and what you bring
to the table here when it comes to Cincinnati. So
many people just love this town. There's so much history here.
So welcome to the show. Thank you, thank you for
being here. We were talking before we got started about
where are we going to start with all the things
that you do, because you do so many things. You've

(01:03):
written cookbooks, Cincinnati and Soup is your Facebook group, and
you teach history.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Let's find out who you were. You said you worked
at WLW for a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
I did. Yeah, I was actually started kind of as
an intern, and I was there for a very short
period of time. Is that particular job. But then I
was fortunate enough to be referred to the Council of
Christian Communions who produced The Church Today, which was a
television show on WLW for a number of years, and
got to write, produce, and actually co host and star

(01:37):
in some of the different productions.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
That we had with. Now what time period are we
talking here.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
This is late seventies early eighties. I was there for
six years and I met a lot of people who
were doing technical jobs of course at WLW in the
television area, and enjoyed it and have many friends I
have that are lifetime from WLW. So yes, I definitely
have a connection here that inspired me when I started working.

(02:01):
I do a lot of community programs and lectures on
Cincinnati and on general history. And I had to laugh
because my latest one is called Stars Over Cincinnati and
ask the question why did people come to WLW radio
to start their careers in WLW television as well? But
basically it was talking about radio, and starting in the

(02:24):
nineteen twenties it became a real entertainment mecca and venue
for talent in the United States.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
The idea that Rosemary Clooney worked here and Rod Serling
and all these other guys that we've heard of. To me,
this is the most exciting part of working at WLW
is the history of all of the great people that
started here. But this was such an enormous station at
the time. That's probably the answer to your question that.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
This is the case, you know, because they could broadcast
on five hundred thousand watts at one time. I mean
I learned a lot. Now, the Mills brothers and the
ink Spots, and Andy Williams and the Williams brothers of
course were here. You don't think about those people being
having Cincinnati connections at all, but they were definitely here
for parts of their careers. And you know, we're important

(03:15):
Rosemary Clooney, of course, you mentioned Doris Day. You know
a lot of these people started here.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You know Vera Ellen grew up in Norwood.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
Oh yes, and she's in the movie with Rosemary Clooney
White Christmas.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
So she's the thinner of the two.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Actually, you have a connection there too. We have George
Jakiris place. They yes, George Takiris, who became the only
Oscar winner from Norwood.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
He is one of the dancers, got that jet black hair,
handsome and I, you know, it's funny because I remember
watching him and realizing there was, you know, some familiarity
with him, and I looked him up and I read
about him, and I didn't see anything of Cincinnati, but
I just thought, you know, he looks really famous in
those scenes with her dancing at the club.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
I had no idea he's from here.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, the only Oscar winner from Norwood.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I wonder if he must have known Vera then if
they were from the scene.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Actually they didn't know each other. Read my knowledge because
from what I do a lot of research. I think
when you teach collegees you probably noticed I taught you.
I have taught at Miami University and Devrai University, among other places,
and you know, you tend to do a lot of
research on people and you find out that they were
just totally never passed in the door at all. Now,

(04:30):
Vera Ellen had a relationship with Doris Day and they
went to the same dancing school, and Doris Day had
a relationship with Andy Williams because when she was on
the radio and he was on the radio, they both
lived in Price Hill and according to Doris Day, she
would spend Monday evenings at the Williams house singing songs
and the mother would make things and they would sit there.

(04:52):
I can only imagine Doris Day and Andy Williams singing together,
I can only And that was actually a true story
that Doris Day told. We have a story in our
family about Andy Williams. When he was here. Ed's mother
attended high school with Andy Williams, and.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
It's her other house.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, as the mister here, and as it turned out,
he was having trouble with his botany homework and she
did his homework for him because he was a high
school student. This is the Williams brothers and they were
young boys at the time when they sang on W
l W. And so we have actually a family story
that goes in there. And when he wrote his biography,

(05:31):
he actually included he couldn't remember Rosemarie Ruttler, which was
what her name was in those days. But he couldn't
remember that, but he did remember there was a there
was a girl that helped him get through high school,
otherwise he would not have, you know, made it through
the first two years of West Tie.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
If you just tuned in, I'm speaking with Sherry Brinkman.
She is a I would say you're pretty down close
to an expert in Cincinnati history. You're certainly very well
versed in what's been happening in this town and sharing
that information and the love of it. For when you're
a kid and you learn history, most of the time,
it's not very interesting because you're learning facts, you're learning dates,

(06:07):
you're learning war, you know, you're learning all this stuff.
But when you get older, you start to realize that
there's so much more interesting humanness about history. And I
think that's why people start coming into loving history when
they're older, because now it all makes sense.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
You know. So what is it.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
About knowing this history of Cincinnati and all of this
deep talent and innovation and you know, celebrity names. What
does that do to your life? And what do you
think that does to people's lives that live here.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I just think it adds color, variety to your life.
I think all kinds of history will do that, and
not just Cincinnati. But you know, Cincinnati is a very
special place, in a very unique place in a lot
of ways. Not just the chili. Everybody goes, well, it's
the chili, but I have read the piece for that too,
But the whole concept.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
There is it.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
You know, it makes it more an interesting place to
live for you. You feel happier about your your house, your town.
The fact that you're a part of this. That most
of our deeds, if you go all the way back,
were signed by George Washington, believe it or not. That's
another little interesting tit and bit because it was Sims
township and you know, at those days, the president would

(07:24):
sign the deeds. Now, don't go running down to the
clerk of Cork's office because they won't be real happy
with you. But it happens to be the truth. If
you lived in the Sims Purchase area of Cincinnati, that
isn't all of Cincinnati, right, But you can see that
this is a just part of the grand scheme of things,
you know.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Right, It's just fascinating to me. Can you tell Sherry,
can you tell them history?

Speaker 3 (07:47):
History? Geek geeky, But yeah, I know that. That's one
of the things I do a lot of things on
my Facebook page. I do a lot of postings of
interesting things in history of That's Cincinnati and Soup on Facebook,
And that's an open page. If you're a member of Facebook,
you can just stump in at it and I talk
about things I'm doing, and I talk about things that
are going on.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You post the best pictures.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Yeah, I look for things because people, you know, it's
always more interesting to find something that's just totally unique
that people haven't seen before. Sometimes there are things they have.
I recently just posted one of the waterfront in nineteen ten.
The reason was there is no PNC tower, there is
no CAREW tower in nineteen ten. Our signature buildings didn't

(08:29):
happen until much later than that, actullently.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
So you look at the you look at the waterfront,
and it just looks like another little town.

Speaker 3 (08:35):
Where are you where am Ike? I mean, because we
use those as identifiers, you know, as to what Cincinnati
looks like. We have our buildings, and that didn't happen
till nineteen thirteen when the PNC tower, which was Union
Central Life Tower was built at yeah time.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
Yeah, and then CAREW went up after that, and now
that's being all redone and going to see new Life.
What about the Crosley Building down there in Camp Washington.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
What do you do you know anything?

Speaker 3 (09:01):
I haven't heard what the development of that is. And
of course that was very that played. That was the
original Precision Equipment company, as you probably know, it was
not really the Crossley building, and that was his company,
and that was, of course where the first broadcast came from.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
And we're talking about that cream colored building as you're
on seventy five. It's dilapidated, it's full of graffiti, the
windows are broken out. But I've been hearing that there's
developers involved that are going to bring it back to life,
and we're just trying to figure out what it's going
to be.

Speaker 3 (09:30):
Yeah, I've heard that too. I don't have any inside
scoop on that, but.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
They had big ballrooms in there, and they also built
a lot of the radios, and I think they assembled
the cars.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
Don't Yeah, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean, there's just so much and it's hard
to keep straight when you're my age.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
But anyway, it's just a fabulous idea.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So I'm hoping that that will be rejuvenated here in
the next few years. So let's talk about the recipe
books that you've done, and we know what was the
interest in that and how.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Did that goat?

Speaker 3 (10:05):
I mean when you live in Cincinnati too. A lot
of the recipes. I've been so fortunate to make friends,
as I say, with some of the people in the
history the historic books include things like Ruth Lyons, whom
I didn't know, Bob Braun, Colleen Sharp. I did talk
to missus Braun at one point about her recipe that
I have in the book. Bonnie Lou, who I met

(10:25):
while I was doing one of the Bonnie Oh I
love Bonnie. I loved her. Colleen is still around with
a Colleen Sharpe Murray is still with us, and she's
a darling, darling woman, and what a blessing to have
been able to meet her. And then she introduced me
to Bonnie Lou. And then one of my books I
have Donna Fancher, who was her husband was involved with

(10:45):
the I can't think of his name. I'm losing it today. Uh,
but anyway, we're involved with some of the other programs
on the station at the time, the Western Hay Ride.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I'm looking at any vice.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I couldn't think. Donna Fancher was the widow of Kenny Price.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Okay, So you've given me this best of Cincinnati and
Soup Recipes book, and I'm looking through here at the beginning,
and you've got Cincinnati chili recipes, the TV stars of
your recipes from Ruth Lyons, places that we love like Schilaito's,
the Peerless Mill, the Golden Lamb of course, which I

(11:21):
was just out there a couple of days ago, and
all kinds of soups and stuff, and especially now I've
noticed so many young people are now getting into cooking.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
My latest book has a lot of quick cooking things,
what's called Modern Times Cincinnati and Soup Modern Times. And
I have numerous celebrities. I have John Morris Russell, I
have Sheila Gray, I have Michelle Hopkins, people I've known
through the years. Michelle Hopkins used to work here, actually,
Wilbia and Stefano DP Trantonio, who's a friend who's Italian,

(11:55):
who I love all Italian food. You can I even
have a chapter of Italian food in there.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
You've got the notes from these people.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
They actually put it. They put in the recipe and
they wrote things, they wrote stories. John Morris Russell's mother
actually lived in Puerto Rico and we have a roso conpoyo,
which is the chicken and rice recipe from Puerto Rico,
and it is very delicious. It's the kind of thing
that you.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Can always well, where do you sell these at?

Speaker 3 (12:21):
Okay, we're at Joseph Beth Booksellers and we have that's
in Rookwood. That's in Rookwood. We are in a variety
of other small stores throughout the area. We do try
to help patronize shops small, which is so important to Cincinnati,
the smaller shops around the city. We have a whole
bunch of those. I'm sit there, I can probably name
everyone off and I'll forget somebody. I'll get in trouble,

(12:44):
but you know that's something. We have the Facebook page,
we have everything.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Listed right so if you're looking for these books, you
can go to these Facebook page Cincinnati and Soup and
check out Sherry Brinkman's contacts, all of her posts, and
we're you can get these books and find out more
about our talent.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
I really would love to talk to you more.

Speaker 1 (13:04):
We're just out of time, but I appreciate so much
you coming in and let us know how you're doing.
What new things you've got going on, and we'll try
to have you back real soon and we can talk
about other pertinent things like Octoberfest Cincinnati. I saw some
recipes in there from that that'd be a lot of fun,
but enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Thank you so much, Sandy.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
I'm Sandy Collins. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (13:26):
If you got any questions, comments, or suggestions, just shoot
me an email.

Speaker 2 (13:29):
It's Iheartsincy with an I at iHeartMedia dot com until
next week. Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
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