March 25, 2025 • 35 mins
Dr. Yan Katsnelson is an entrepreneur, highly skilled cardiac surgeon, business owner, and philanthropist. He is the founder and CEO of USA Vein Clinics, which is part of USA Clinics Group – the parent company of USA Fibroid Centers, USA Vascular Centers, USA Hemorrhoid Centers, USA Prostate Centers, USA Pain Center, USA Longevity Centers, and USA Oncology Centers. Dr. Katsnelson has established himself as a strong advocate for accessible, affordable, and compassionate healthcare services.
As the CEO of USA Clinics Group, Dr. Katsnelson has pioneered expanding minimally invasive options that provide high-quality care using the latest technology in the most advanced facilities to the communities that need it most. He also founded the Chicago Heart Institute, which was dedicated to the advanced treatments of cardiovascular diseases. Dr. Katsnelson, M.D., completed a fellowship at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard School of Medicine, in Boston, MA. He was a faculty cardiac surgeon at the University of Chicago prior to starting his Cardiovascular and Thoracic private practice in Chicago Northwest suburbs. Dr. Yan Katsnelson was the first U.S. surgeon to perform the double valve replacement using Biocor™ tissue valve. His clinical areas of expertise included minimally invasive valve surgery, complex aortic operations, re-operative coronary and valve surgery, and beating-heart (off-pump) bypass surgery. He is published in various medical and scientific journals.
As the CEO of USA Clinics Group, Dr. Katsnelson has pioneered expanding minimally invasive options that provide high-quality care using the latest technology in the most advanced facilities to the communities that need it most. He also founded the Chicago Heart Institute, which was dedicated to the advanced treatments of cardiovascular diseases. Dr. Katsnelson, M.D., completed a fellowship at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital, Harvard School of Medicine, in Boston, MA. He was a faculty cardiac surgeon at the University of Chicago prior to starting his Cardiovascular and Thoracic private practice in Chicago Northwest suburbs. Dr. Yan Katsnelson was the first U.S. surgeon to perform the double valve replacement using Biocor™ tissue valve. His clinical areas of expertise included minimally invasive valve surgery, complex aortic operations, re-operative coronary and valve surgery, and beating-heart (off-pump) bypass surgery. He is published in various medical and scientific journals.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of CEOs.
You should know I am Steve Dallison, and I am
excited to be welcoming the CEO of USA Clinics Group,
which is doctor Johan.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thank you so much for being with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Thank you Steve for inviting.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We're excited to be able to jump into your journey
to learn a little bit about yourself but also the organization.
So why don't we jump right into it? Can you
share with our listeners a little bit about your journey
from being a highly skilled cardiac surgeon to now becoming
an entrepreneur and CEO of USA Clinics Group. No.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I always say you never know what's the next turn bring,
and I guess I'm thirsty for interesting opportunities and whether
I have a choice to continue with something that's more
predictable versus maybe take a little risk but open yourself
for new opportunities. I'm guilty of taking this choice, and
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most likely it's been very very good for me. That's
very lucking. Start as a heart surgeon, and I did
my medical education in Russia. I worked in Israel as
a heart surgeon. I worked in Italy, I worked in
England and ended up put a fellowship in the Harvard
and bring me with Women's Hospital. And heart surgery is
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amazing thing. It's pure magic. You know, someone has a
broken heart, you stop, you fix it and it works
like neo better. It's absolutely amazing. It's also if you
do things right, gives you confident that pretty much everything
is possible. If you do things, organize right and not
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take any chances. You know, it's very discipline thing. And
I found a new iteration of magic in after twenty
years almost of heart surgery in minimal evasive procedures. Apparently
I learned that you can do fantastic things and cured
people without doing major intervation. You know, surgeons like big incisions,
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and then they said, oh we can do big things,
so small incisions. And when you can do amazing things
without any incisions, it's it's another level of magic, which
is sometimes doctors do things for themselves because the love
actions love doing things. But for the patient, what can
be better than minimal risk and a great outcome. And
(02:23):
that's what's the magic of today's medicine. Possible minimal invasive
treatments of very common conditions through needle hole with minimal,
no risk and extraordinary outcomes, and that's what kind of
allowed me to change the course of my career and
focus on this.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's awesome. That's an incredible, curdal journey.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So what originally obviously you've had a very impressive journeys
as you just detailed out, but what originally initially inspired
you to have that passion for medicine and how has
that passion and that vision evolved over the years.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Helping people is great. I mean you if you're just
trying to think about life and what impact you can make,
and I can't think of something better than medicine in
any forepe in shape, you know, in the I have
two girls there in medical school now. And but you
(03:24):
you know, mom and dad. You know you're not really doctors.
What do you mean? I mean, you manage a large organization,
you don't see patients, because recently, in the last few years,
I don't really see the patient. So I told them,
will that'd be nice? We want to be real doctors.
Okay that was a few years. And what do you mean,
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We're want to see the patients like like you've done before.
So I said, will that be nice? To help one patient? Yes,
how about if you can help five patients today? Yes,
but what if you can help hands of hundreds of
thousands of patients? Will that be nice? Is it's still
we got it? So I think I think today, day
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and age, you know, with the technology and the opportunities
for finding the way to help more patients with a
very cost effective, minimum evasive procedures for common diseases that
dramatically improve patients' lives and outcomes and quality and longevity
is a is a great focus of ours and I
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think we have an incredible team that also very passionate
about this. And it started from vain treatments. Who would think,
you know, being a heart surgeon, we you know car cardiovascular,
you know, it's all similar. I never liked doing any
treatment for veins because it was barbaric. It was terrible
surgery and I could not believe, like woman, a man doctor,
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thank you, not knowing that doctors just did the absolutely torture.
And when new technology came to do much better treatment
per contanious and the ultra sound not blindly with the
needle hole and the local anesthesia when patients go home
fifteen minutes later, it was a pure miracle. And I
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had these patience that I did the heart surgery that
came for veins, and I could not believe that how
much difference in their lives this minimum VASI a vein
procedures compared to heart surgery, because when people have a
heart problems, they don't necessarily suffering every moment. Sometimes they
have you know, we're afraid of heart attack, we're afraid
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of other things. And if they exercise, they have a
chest pain tight, but it's not all the time. They
are common conditions like a vain you know, insufficiency when
people have swelling and pain and eaching and cramping, inability
to sleep all the time every day. And you know,
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America has a great medicine, but if it doesn't kill
doctors sometimes okay, you can wait. It's not as important
and it will not kill you. But doctors sometimes don't
feel patients pain. And when patients get relieved from something
like this, that's incredible, and then we'll learned that we
can do more because many patients were coming to us
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not just with the vain condition, but ourterial problems. You know,
the blood has a circulation, has two parts, you know, arterial,
when the fresh blood comes to the cells and venus
like a sewer and we take a waste. So first
we were doing this congestion from you know, venus part,
but many people came with arterial and well, learn how
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to do those treatments in the office as well, and
then we'll learned that we can do many, many other things.
And we discovered it's a shame to say I didn't
know much about fiber disease. Eighty percent of black women,
seventy percent of white women by age of fifty developed
fiber It It's a benign tumor in the uterus, and
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it sounds like, oh benign, it's not too bad. But
those tumors really ruined women's life. It creates a bleeding,
prolonged heavy man's drug period. It's number one reason for
women to lose babies because if you have a tumor inediuitors,
it competes with baby for space and blood supply and
many many other things. So basically complete ruins life. And
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most treatments were like big barbaric treatments for veins surgeries
switched to purrcutaneous like original treatments for fiber disease were
do nothing, which is not good. Or mymectomy removing tried
to open the like a C section open and try
to remove these tumors, but you cannot remove all of them.
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In two three years, fifty percent come back or heystractomy
basically castration, Yeah, and sometimes offered in twenties and thirties
because women suffer. And that's what was standard of care
for twenty five almost thirty years was they approved utine
fibriate mbolization and maybe one percent and women get this treatment.
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So we kind of took upon ourselves task to educate
women to know that there are other options and quite
frankly bypass colleges bypus status quo, and it worked, and
at worked, we held many many women with extraordinary results
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and number of these similar conditions that's very common like
prostates and what's there aartrities that can't be treated percontaneously
without any surgeries just keep growing. So I think we're
on the right side of the future. And you know what,
don't be lazy to keep working. Yeah, Just so that's
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very exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That is it's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Incredible to see the innovation that you're able to bring
to the space and be able to do all this.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Good and we have about one hundred and seventy locations,
sixty five percent of US population within driving distance to
our locations. So I mean theoretically as possible. So eventually
we can help on amost everyone.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's great, that's incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, with all the amazing advancements, I'm sure along the way,
there may have been some challenges.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You also faced.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can you share with us what some of those challenges
might have been and how you guys were able to
overcome them?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Or we don't have any challenge? No. So in medicine,
I think the biggest challenge is consistency, sure, because it's
you know, people argue is that art? Is that science?
What is medicine? And you might know nobody asks do
you know good Starbucks? Everyone else do no good doctor?
And it seems acceptable that the better doctors worse doctors.
(09:35):
People have different opinions. I don't know, I think differently,
you know, being a heart surgeon, I learned that there's
certain standards. I always know what will I say in court?
But like what if something goes wrong? So in a
heart surgery, were very precise with indications like one, two, three.
You need to meet certain cretis because the burning of
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risk is very very high. So if you subject someone
to risk, you better know why you do this. So
it don't take any decision lightly. And I took I
also served the Navy, so if you do something wrong
in the Navy, you end up that So it just
like looking in the world more like a black and
white yes or no according to rules or not. So
(10:17):
we basically created this imaginary world that don't speed, don't
drink and drive, don't just do the right things, and
and we created the system in our organization. We spend
a lot of money in a lot of time create
a management platforms software that unifies everything that based on
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the rules. So we help doctors to make better decisions
by gathering all the information as much as possible objective
from well just on machines, from CD, from different things,
and presenting to the doctors already matching to every single guideline.
So it will save time and make sure that you know.
(11:01):
Whatever we can do to prevent inconsistency, we do within
our power, and doctor using this technology achieve extraordinary results
like for example, for fibirds, our need for recurrent procedure
almost twenty five times less than published data. Because of
this consistency. So I think that's the biggest challenge, how
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to achieve better results consistently, and it will dramatically decrease
cost of care and provide a lot of transparency, And
I think that's what we need, right then, decrease cost
of care so that will be enough care for everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sure, I think that that consistency and high standards allows
you to have all the different locations across the country
and correct confidence that the care that anyone is getting
that visits one of those centers is going to be.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We can deliver what we promise. Yeah, correct, that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Is that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So you yourself pioneering a lot of advanced technology, but
I know something that is very important to you is
providing high quality care to the underserved communities. What drives
your commitment to this mission and how do you see
this approach evolving in the future.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know, I like excitement to make a difference. You know,
you take someone who is the sickest and make a difference.
I mean, it's important to help a little bit, but
to me, it's more exciting to help someone who suffers
a lot. The reality is an underserved community unfortunately, people
Even if you have access to care. I can say
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that they don't have access to care. You know, they
have Medicaid, they have maybe even better access to care
than anybody else because it's free, but they don't use it.
May bee metter of education, may be a matter of
other things. So solving this gap and helping patients that
suffer the most because of whatever the reason they didn't
have a benefit of using the care excites me a lot.
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And most of our doctors are very similar, you know,
heart surgeon's, vascular surgeon and eventual radiology inteventually people that
went to medicine to make a difference as much as possible,
So it's kind of very much aligned. You know too,
we like to make a difference. There's pathology and problems
and undeserved population, and I think everyone benefits. It just
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kind of fits like a glove. And there's a lot
of work there, a lot of work and a lot
of positivity. And when people happy and thankful and you
make their life better, it's invigorating. It's really what excites
us and what moves us. And you know it's not difficult.
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We enjoy what we do. And I have so many
doctors work really really hard and they have one doctor.
He was a hard surgeon. Now maybe he came to
us sixty five years old and maybe two three days
a week. He works six days a week, work really hard.
And ask Steve, why do you work that hard? I
don't work the best tipe of my professional life. I
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mean I enjoy every moment. And he's phenomenal here in
New York and New Jersey. So all of us like this,
and it's just I think that's that's why people should
go to medicine, to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it kind of is full circle. So when I
originally asked you why I went in to medicine, right,
it's to have that passion and to help people. And
I think that it's refreshing and awesome to see that
that's trickling down to this impoint.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Practice in five countries. I visited sixty three sixty four countries,
and so I can tell you that many ways to
practice medicine. And the goal is to innovate. The goal
is you know, it's not where's the pack now, where's
the pack going? Just imagine there is in three four
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dimension space where you want to be in a certain
point of time and space in one five ten years.
I just have a great team and work towards the goal,
and I think that's that's absolutely PASSI today, that's great.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, we've talked. We touched on this earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Minimal invasive procedures have really become the hallmark of your practice.
Where do you see that role advancing in other shapes
of the healthcare industry or other healthcare delivery outlets.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's a great question. FIFA service like today's medicine. I
can honestly tell you know the opportunity in the US.
It's the care is extraordinary, can be, but overall results
are not as good as could be if you compare
it to the costs and many other things, because incentives
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is fee for service. So people focus on treating what
they're called chronic conditions. That means the condition that never
go away, and it always brings FIFA service. It's a
great business. We're terrible business. We I think the right
thing is to cure conditions, find the problem and just
fix it. Sure, make it like touch and go aw.
(15:58):
That's a magic maybe not a business, but medicine is
not a business. Medicine is about doing the right things.
And I believe that no country can spend fifty percent
of GDP and no employer can spend fifty percent of
payroll on healthcare. So and eventually music will stop and
right thing will be overwhelming, The right thing for everyone,
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just cure. And in my opinion, what we do decrease
cost of care maybe tenfold, maybe twenty For example, fibrids.
When women suffer twenty twenty five years, overall cost of
care can be one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand
dollars or more, you know, between all the treatments and
infertility treatments and especially not going to work and not
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having career, and it's just extraordinary for I don't know,
ten thousand dollars twenty times less. You can have a cure.
That's fantastic, fantastic, you know, vain, vain treatments. One or
two percent of medicare published. Sixty five percent or older
have ulcers, broken skin and ultuers that completely limit them
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from danes, from congestion, from poor circulation, and the cost
can be one hundred thousand a year in perpetuity. Our
treatment is single digit, you know, it's it's nothing, and
it prevents this disease. People I don't know, don't look
at this. When I spoke with a large insurance company,
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they look at what is the most expensive thing for
them runic conditions, herd cancer, other things. But and they
in today's world like how can we control? What do
we need to do? I think they need to think
a little different, how we can either cure or how
can we prevent? And I think the most exciting thing
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for me and for hopefully your say clinics, and maybe
for healthcare is to make sure people live longer. Seventy
percent of death are preventable. It's at the heart of cancer.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Literally fifty that right.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But what's important preventable is it's It sounds like crazy,
but it's true. If you find cancer in stage one,
it's curable. By definition stage one, when it's a very
very beginning, it doesn't protrude, doesn't go anywhere that they
can spread. So you fix it and that's it, Like
you never had a cancer if you find it. So
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I'll give you example with lung cancer. Thank God, it's
getting better. And it's getting better because you know, amazing
things happened, people decrease smoking. Who would imagine this twenty
years ago, would never imagine New York City restaurants, no smoking, No,
we'll all live in a new world. And early detection
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fifteen million Americans can have for free scan of you know,
city scan, and before five years survival was three to
and now find earlier can be ninety five percent five
to ten years of complete turn tables and hard people
mostly die from unknown heart disease because there's a heart origion.
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I know, if you if you diagnose almost its mechanical problem,
almost everything can be fixed. So early diagnosis is critical.
And if you'll find it early, then we'll make people
leave and and it will be very cheap. The only
thing is medicine is built today feed for service, so
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if patient doesn't produce revenue like chemotherapy and other things,
it's not very good for business of medicine. So I
think we need to have a big shift in incentives
and focus. That's not this but actually what's important the
outcomes and decreased costs and the best outcomes need to
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be rewarded. Don't know, I can't necessarily for myself and
make this difference, but we can do it our part,
you know, just trying to provide the data be available
against sixty five percent of US population within a driving
distance and keep talking about this to the right people
and who knows. Now new administration, that's let's hope for
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the best. And you know, there's a lot of effort
to think about health and the longevity, and people talk
about all the by hacking and other things. I don't know.
We can talk about a lot of mysterious things, but
we can talk about very easy understood and practical things
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like all the diagnosis cheap and make a huge difference.
So I hope this message will be heard, and I'm
pretty sure it will be because you know, eventually the
right things come out many people think at the same time,
and when it's enough push it, it will it will happen.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, same point message that a lot more people should
be listening to.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It s safsy on the monetary side, but also long
term better quality of life.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And your say, clinics is based on education of patients,
empowering patients, even if underserved community. It's not like just
opening offices in a bad neighborhood and bronx, No, it's
just educating the patients, educating a bad options. And I
think for patients, for people, get patients, like people taking
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care of the health they have one body. I heard
Buffett once talking to you know, students or someone to
give example, like, you know, if you would have a
one car for life, would you take good care of life?
I mean, like your body, your health, if you just
have one, would you take care of it? And and
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I think we need to think this way that if
you that's your body, you need to you know, if
you want to have a long, deductive, meaningful life, you
know you need to have about it that functions. And
so I think today with the technology, we can like
planes don't fall from disguise right, and they can be
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one hundred years old because of redundancy and proactive maintenance.
And if well, if we'll have the same approach to
the human body, and healthcare can be extremely safe and
predictable and inexpensive and scalable. So I'm very excited where
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we're going. I think we can really discover new healthcare
and new life and hopefully, you know, one hundred hundred
and twenty years old will be in a good shape, functioning.
I think it's achievable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Well, I love that positivity. I hope you're right, and
I hope we do move in that right direction.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Okay, asking my thing. I'm right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Another impressive fact about your is you did found you
were the founder of the Chicago Heart Institute, founded to
tackle complex cardiovascular conditions. What inspired you to create that
and what is the legacy you hope it leaves.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
That was a long time ago then when I was
a heart surgeon, and I really like what I'm doing,
And it's interesting. When I started at the University of Chicago,
I had the shows and the radio stations about heart
conditions and if you have a shortened of breadth, if
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you have this, let us help you. And part of
the Heart Chicago Heart Institute was how do we bring
top notch here to patients by educating them and providing
access transparency instead of over complicating and just saying all
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the strange words that people don't understand. We just need
to provide the best care to the patients with the
knowledge and try to eliminate as many as possible middleman.
And you know, from this it just transitioned to other
minimal invasive treatments that can help instead of one or
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two patients a day to twenty or tens of thousands
like we do right now in our amazing organizations. With
the one hundred plus fantastic doctors and great stuff. And
I think I'm very lucky, very lucky, glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well. I know we talked about this a little bit earlier,
balancing between your business acumen and obviously your experience within
the clinical medical space. How do you feel like those
two experiences combined make you a better leader in the space.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I think when we being in touch with the reality,
you know, understanding how to help the patients. I don't
think you can be the most effective healthcare leader can
be a doctor who things scale and about consistency. You know,
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if you think too much or I'm a doctor from
doctor's perspective, or I'm a doctor, I'm so important, I
learned so much, I need to get paid a lot.
It's wrong think from the patient perspective. How can you
help one patient? How can you help million patients? And
if you don't know, how do you help one hundred?
You think how can you help ten thousand? Until you
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find solution? And I think using technology today, you know,
there's the EMAR. There was great thing that happened in
the last twenty five years bringing electronic medical records, but
most of electronic records it's you know, garbage in, garbage out.
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It's just like fancy word document. Sure, it's not structural data.
You can put anything, and that's why things are confusing.
I don't think even AI can read this and understand.
Because people are people, they sometimes put whatever the minimum
they can get away with. We approach very differently. We
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think that knowledge should be gold and everything is structural data.
So when you have a data that's absolutely meaningful, every
single thing yes or no, definitive, and you put on
top of this rule's best practices and you track outcomes,
it's incredible. That's the tool that we use to treat
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achieve outcomes and talk about this and track and I
think it's very scalable. I hope this approach will be
patient first and structural data and rules first before. Oh
I'm a doctor, I know. I mean that's I think
that's that's what allows medicine to be much better in
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the next few years. And I'm sure many others will
use this approach as well.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Another great approach that you do is while you've been
recognized for a lot of the great work you're doing
in medicine, you've also been recognized for a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Of the great work you do on the philthic side.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
What advice do you give to other healthcare professionals or
those that are just entering the field to not lose
sight of the importance of giving back and being involved
into the line for the piece out there.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think it's very important to think about big picture
why you went to medicine, helping people and helping people.
It's not only you know prescriptions, it's not only surgeries.
Just educate people about ability to live better and longer
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and achieve more, maximize the life. I always tell that
our goal, for example with fib words, is to give
women the best version of her life as early as possible,
and I think anything that we can do to advance it.
For example, we have Fibrid Fighters organization that we've found
me and my wife, doctor Flora, maybe seven or eight
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years ago, and that was amazing educating women about different
options and many When you have a good idea, many
great people joined, you know, with this energy and contribute
and it just grows beyond a regional scope much larger.
Another example that I really like it is to save
a child's heart. When I was in Israel, we were
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doing heart surgeon and kids from around the world, and
then I got a knighte in Nation award in twenty eighteen.
They treated more than maybe seven thousand patient kids from
all over the world, more than sixty countries for free,
and established heart surgeon in many countries at the open
in Tanzania. And it's unbelievable. So I think always need
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to think. You know, when I was a heart surgeon,
I knew two words when someone called thank you very
much right away. That's all You'll never ask, you know,
details insurance, This just like thank you for a trust yep,
let me do the best. And I think everyone who
goes to medicine or even healthcare need to think this.
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And it's a beyond just job. Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We touched on this earlier, but I think it's an
important topic to dive a little bit deeper into, which
is access to healthcare. Right it's not just an issue here,
but really globally it's become a very pressing issue. What
advice would you give to others in the healthcare industry
to change that? And how do you believe an organization
like USA Centers is changing that way.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think it's exciting opportunity because of technology. You know,
the people say medicine is local. I don't know, it's
not necessarily all. You have a good doctor around this
and you can access I think medicine is more a
bad information. It's about knowledge what's possible, and you know,
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doctor needs to have a couple advanced things like had
to get the data and maybe but to see and
learn today doctor Google can be smarter than doctors. I
truly believe that because with the information that constantly updates,
it's possible to have a system that's really a up
to date and many things. What it means like traveless
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cars provides absolutely new opportunity for transportation. Sorry to say,
but doctor is medicine to me is the key to
scale and give extraordinary care anywhere for almost free. So
I actually extremely optimistic. By utilizing technology and then bringing
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the medicine what doesn't require surgery or other things basically
free anywhere in the world, that becomes not local, global,
I maybe we'll get to the point that maybe actually
to care will be right. I don't know, things that
were not possible twenty years ago, I see maybe realistic
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within the very short period of time. We have a
software that were actually between seventy two hundred software engineers.
We'll do it for maybe thirteen years already. That build
system everything from voice of very PE telephony to control
and track every conversation and EMR that knows everything is
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as a structural data and rules with digitalized rules of
bactors and patient engagement like basically guidelines. That's a bunch
of PDFs and tons of books we digitalized that it
can in real time match symptoms, signs, objective findings to
all these rules and guidelines and suggest the best actions
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that cost effective and extremely effective as outcomes. And I
think I think it can be used beyond our organization
needs and beyond just procedures and expanded. So I'm very
excited at what lies ahead of us, and I hope
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we can make USA Clinics a very generic name, can
make a broader difference and not even maybe even beyond us.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I love that. I'm excited to see the future and
what's in store for you guys. Next. We covered a
lot today.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you feel like there's anything that we might have
missed that you wanted the listeners to know about USA Clinics.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
US Clinics has about one hundred and seventy locations in
thirty three states. We have more than forty locations in
New York City also, you know I love New York City.
And then we provide cure for many conditions, vascular conditions,
venus in sufficiency arteries, fibirds, you know, women's health state,
we don't we we okay to take care of men
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as well. Instead of big surgeries, we can just rink
prostate with the minimum evasive percutaneous treatments. Now we treat
to a steratritis and and we're always evolving. And what
I can tell about USA Clinics that because of the
approach and data driven approach, I hope we can deliver
great outcomes to every patient that comes to us. That's
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at least our very hard work and intention. And then
they can find us on the USA Clinics dot com,
USA Fibrid Centers. And the most important thing, everyone needs
to be in charge of the health. You just have
one body take care of it with us, not with us.
But just don't ignore it, don't take chances, don't hope
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for the best. Just it's possible to have long and
happy and productive life. Don't ignore it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That's awesome. That's great advice, Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Think if I'm much That was amazing, spontaneous invitation.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Absolute.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I always love to ask one last question. So there
is no doubt in my mind that based on your
story and your journey and the future work that you're
going to do, you're going to leave a legacy in
the field of medicine for anyone tuning in that's thinking
about entering the industry or have that passion to be
able to help others. Like you said earlier, what advice
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would you give them?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
A high, aim high and know your stuff. I mean
it's really everyone that asks in our organization want to
be very tall. People have a strategy, think beyond horizon
and dream and just don't waste your life in small things.
At the same time, you need to be put from
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the ground, really good at what you do, and this combination,
if you can groom yourself to be you know, like this,
that would be you'll have exciting life and make a
lot of difference, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I was absolute pleasure learning more about you, learning more
about USA clinics and all the amazing work you're doing.
So Thank you very much for coming in. Thank you awesome,
Thank you guys for tuning in, and tune in next
week for next week's edition of CEOs.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
You should know
Hi everyone, and welcome to this week's edition of CEOs.
You should know I am Steve Dallison, and I am
excited to be welcoming the CEO of USA Clinics Group,
which is doctor Johan.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Thank you so much for being with us today.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Thank you Steve for inviting.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
We're excited to be able to jump into your journey
to learn a little bit about yourself but also the organization.
So why don't we jump right into it? Can you
share with our listeners a little bit about your journey
from being a highly skilled cardiac surgeon to now becoming
an entrepreneur and CEO of USA Clinics Group. No.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
I always say you never know what's the next turn bring,
and I guess I'm thirsty for interesting opportunities and whether
I have a choice to continue with something that's more
predictable versus maybe take a little risk but open yourself
for new opportunities. I'm guilty of taking this choice, and
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most likely it's been very very good for me. That's
very lucking. Start as a heart surgeon, and I did
my medical education in Russia. I worked in Israel as
a heart surgeon. I worked in Italy, I worked in
England and ended up put a fellowship in the Harvard
and bring me with Women's Hospital. And heart surgery is
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amazing thing. It's pure magic. You know, someone has a
broken heart, you stop, you fix it and it works
like neo better. It's absolutely amazing. It's also if you
do things right, gives you confident that pretty much everything
is possible. If you do things, organize right and not
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take any chances. You know, it's very discipline thing. And
I found a new iteration of magic in after twenty
years almost of heart surgery in minimal evasive procedures. Apparently
I learned that you can do fantastic things and cured
people without doing major intervation. You know, surgeons like big incisions,
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and then they said, oh we can do big things,
so small incisions. And when you can do amazing things
without any incisions, it's it's another level of magic, which
is sometimes doctors do things for themselves because the love
actions love doing things. But for the patient, what can
be better than minimal risk and a great outcome. And
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that's what's the magic of today's medicine. Possible minimal invasive
treatments of very common conditions through needle hole with minimal,
no risk and extraordinary outcomes, and that's what kind of
allowed me to change the course of my career and
focus on this.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
That's awesome. That's an incredible, curdal journey.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
So what originally obviously you've had a very impressive journeys
as you just detailed out, but what originally initially inspired
you to have that passion for medicine and how has
that passion and that vision evolved over the years.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Helping people is great. I mean you if you're just
trying to think about life and what impact you can make,
and I can't think of something better than medicine in
any forepe in shape, you know, in the I have
two girls there in medical school now. And but you
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you know, mom and dad. You know you're not really doctors.
What do you mean? I mean, you manage a large organization,
you don't see patients, because recently, in the last few years,
I don't really see the patient. So I told them,
will that'd be nice? We want to be real doctors.
Okay that was a few years. And what do you mean,
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We're want to see the patients like like you've done before.
So I said, will that be nice? To help one patient? Yes,
how about if you can help five patients today? Yes,
but what if you can help hands of hundreds of
thousands of patients? Will that be nice? Is it's still
we got it? So I think I think today, day
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and age, you know, with the technology and the opportunities
for finding the way to help more patients with a
very cost effective, minimum evasive procedures for common diseases that
dramatically improve patients' lives and outcomes and quality and longevity
is a is a great focus of ours and I
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think we have an incredible team that also very passionate
about this. And it started from vain treatments. Who would think,
you know, being a heart surgeon, we you know car cardiovascular,
you know, it's all similar. I never liked doing any
treatment for veins because it was barbaric. It was terrible
surgery and I could not believe, like woman, a man doctor,
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thank you, not knowing that doctors just did the absolutely torture.
And when new technology came to do much better treatment
per contanious and the ultra sound not blindly with the
needle hole and the local anesthesia when patients go home
fifteen minutes later, it was a pure miracle. And I
(05:10):
had these patience that I did the heart surgery that
came for veins, and I could not believe that how
much difference in their lives this minimum VASI a vein
procedures compared to heart surgery, because when people have a
heart problems, they don't necessarily suffering every moment. Sometimes they
have you know, we're afraid of heart attack, we're afraid
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of other things. And if they exercise, they have a
chest pain tight, but it's not all the time. They
are common conditions like a vain you know, insufficiency when
people have swelling and pain and eaching and cramping, inability
to sleep all the time every day. And you know,
(05:53):
America has a great medicine, but if it doesn't kill
doctors sometimes okay, you can wait. It's not as important
and it will not kill you. But doctors sometimes don't
feel patients pain. And when patients get relieved from something
like this, that's incredible, and then we'll learned that we
can do more because many patients were coming to us
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not just with the vain condition, but ourterial problems. You know,
the blood has a circulation, has two parts, you know, arterial,
when the fresh blood comes to the cells and venus
like a sewer and we take a waste. So first
we were doing this congestion from you know, venus part,
but many people came with arterial and well, learn how
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to do those treatments in the office as well, and
then we'll learned that we can do many, many other things.
And we discovered it's a shame to say I didn't
know much about fiber disease. Eighty percent of black women,
seventy percent of white women by age of fifty developed
fiber It It's a benign tumor in the uterus, and
(06:57):
it sounds like, oh benign, it's not too bad. But
those tumors really ruined women's life. It creates a bleeding,
prolonged heavy man's drug period. It's number one reason for
women to lose babies because if you have a tumor inediuitors,
it competes with baby for space and blood supply and
many many other things. So basically complete ruins life. And
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most treatments were like big barbaric treatments for veins surgeries
switched to purrcutaneous like original treatments for fiber disease were
do nothing, which is not good. Or mymectomy removing tried
to open the like a C section open and try
to remove these tumors, but you cannot remove all of them.
(07:39):
In two three years, fifty percent come back or heystractomy
basically castration, Yeah, and sometimes offered in twenties and thirties
because women suffer. And that's what was standard of care
for twenty five almost thirty years was they approved utine
fibriate mbolization and maybe one percent and women get this treatment.
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So we kind of took upon ourselves task to educate
women to know that there are other options and quite
frankly bypass colleges bypus status quo, and it worked, and
at worked, we held many many women with extraordinary results
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and number of these similar conditions that's very common like
prostates and what's there aartrities that can't be treated percontaneously
without any surgeries just keep growing. So I think we're
on the right side of the future. And you know what,
don't be lazy to keep working. Yeah, Just so that's
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very exciting.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
That is it's.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Incredible to see the innovation that you're able to bring
to the space and be able to do all this.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Good and we have about one hundred and seventy locations,
sixty five percent of US population within driving distance to
our locations. So I mean theoretically as possible. So eventually
we can help on amost everyone.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
That's great, that's incredible.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
Well, with all the amazing advancements, I'm sure along the way,
there may have been some challenges.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
You also faced.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Can you share with us what some of those challenges
might have been and how you guys were able to
overcome them?
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Or we don't have any challenge? No. So in medicine,
I think the biggest challenge is consistency, sure, because it's
you know, people argue is that art? Is that science?
What is medicine? And you might know nobody asks do
you know good Starbucks? Everyone else do no good doctor?
And it seems acceptable that the better doctors worse doctors.
(09:35):
People have different opinions. I don't know, I think differently,
you know, being a heart surgeon, I learned that there's
certain standards. I always know what will I say in court?
But like what if something goes wrong? So in a
heart surgery, were very precise with indications like one, two, three.
You need to meet certain cretis because the burning of
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risk is very very high. So if you subject someone
to risk, you better know why you do this. So
it don't take any decision lightly. And I took I
also served the Navy, so if you do something wrong
in the Navy, you end up that So it just
like looking in the world more like a black and
white yes or no according to rules or not. So
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we basically created this imaginary world that don't speed, don't
drink and drive, don't just do the right things, and
and we created the system in our organization. We spend
a lot of money in a lot of time create
a management platforms software that unifies everything that based on
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the rules. So we help doctors to make better decisions
by gathering all the information as much as possible objective
from well just on machines, from CD, from different things,
and presenting to the doctors already matching to every single guideline.
So it will save time and make sure that you know.
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Whatever we can do to prevent inconsistency, we do within
our power, and doctor using this technology achieve extraordinary results
like for example, for fibirds, our need for recurrent procedure
almost twenty five times less than published data. Because of
this consistency. So I think that's the biggest challenge, how
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to achieve better results consistently, and it will dramatically decrease
cost of care and provide a lot of transparency, And
I think that's what we need, right then, decrease cost
of care so that will be enough care for everyone.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Sure, I think that that consistency and high standards allows
you to have all the different locations across the country
and correct confidence that the care that anyone is getting
that visits one of those centers is going to be.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
We can deliver what we promise. Yeah, correct, that.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Is that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
So you yourself pioneering a lot of advanced technology, but
I know something that is very important to you is
providing high quality care to the underserved communities. What drives
your commitment to this mission and how do you see
this approach evolving in the future.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
You know, I like excitement to make a difference. You know,
you take someone who is the sickest and make a difference.
I mean, it's important to help a little bit, but
to me, it's more exciting to help someone who suffers
a lot. The reality is an underserved community unfortunately, people
Even if you have access to care. I can say
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that they don't have access to care. You know, they
have Medicaid, they have maybe even better access to care
than anybody else because it's free, but they don't use it.
May bee metter of education, may be a matter of
other things. So solving this gap and helping patients that
suffer the most because of whatever the reason they didn't
have a benefit of using the care excites me a lot.
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And most of our doctors are very similar, you know,
heart surgeon's, vascular surgeon and eventual radiology inteventually people that
went to medicine to make a difference as much as possible,
So it's kind of very much aligned. You know too,
we like to make a difference. There's pathology and problems
and undeserved population, and I think everyone benefits. It just
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kind of fits like a glove. And there's a lot
of work there, a lot of work and a lot
of positivity. And when people happy and thankful and you
make their life better, it's invigorating. It's really what excites
us and what moves us. And you know it's not difficult.
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We enjoy what we do. And I have so many
doctors work really really hard and they have one doctor.
He was a hard surgeon. Now maybe he came to
us sixty five years old and maybe two three days
a week. He works six days a week, work really hard.
And ask Steve, why do you work that hard? I
don't work the best tipe of my professional life. I
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mean I enjoy every moment. And he's phenomenal here in
New York and New Jersey. So all of us like this,
and it's just I think that's that's why people should
go to medicine, to make a difference.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it kind of is full circle. So when I
originally asked you why I went in to medicine, right,
it's to have that passion and to help people. And
I think that it's refreshing and awesome to see that
that's trickling down to this impoint.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
Practice in five countries. I visited sixty three sixty four countries,
and so I can tell you that many ways to
practice medicine. And the goal is to innovate. The goal
is you know, it's not where's the pack now, where's
the pack going? Just imagine there is in three four
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dimension space where you want to be in a certain
point of time and space in one five ten years.
I just have a great team and work towards the goal,
and I think that's that's absolutely PASSI today, that's great.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, we've talked. We touched on this earlier.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Minimal invasive procedures have really become the hallmark of your practice.
Where do you see that role advancing in other shapes
of the healthcare industry or other healthcare delivery outlets.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's a great question. FIFA service like today's medicine. I
can honestly tell you know the opportunity in the US.
It's the care is extraordinary, can be, but overall results
are not as good as could be if you compare
it to the costs and many other things, because incentives
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is fee for service. So people focus on treating what
they're called chronic conditions. That means the condition that never
go away, and it always brings FIFA service. It's a
great business. We're terrible business. We I think the right
thing is to cure conditions, find the problem and just
fix it. Sure, make it like touch and go aw.
(15:58):
That's a magic maybe not a business, but medicine is
not a business. Medicine is about doing the right things.
And I believe that no country can spend fifty percent
of GDP and no employer can spend fifty percent of
payroll on healthcare. So and eventually music will stop and
right thing will be overwhelming, The right thing for everyone,
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just cure. And in my opinion, what we do decrease
cost of care maybe tenfold, maybe twenty For example, fibrids.
When women suffer twenty twenty five years, overall cost of
care can be one hundred and fifty two hundred thousand
dollars or more, you know, between all the treatments and
infertility treatments and especially not going to work and not
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having career, and it's just extraordinary for I don't know,
ten thousand dollars twenty times less. You can have a cure.
That's fantastic, fantastic, you know, vain, vain treatments. One or
two percent of medicare published. Sixty five percent or older
have ulcers, broken skin and ultuers that completely limit them
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from danes, from congestion, from poor circulation, and the cost
can be one hundred thousand a year in perpetuity. Our
treatment is single digit, you know, it's it's nothing, and
it prevents this disease. People I don't know, don't look
at this. When I spoke with a large insurance company,
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they look at what is the most expensive thing for
them runic conditions, herd cancer, other things. But and they
in today's world like how can we control? What do
we need to do? I think they need to think
a little different, how we can either cure or how
can we prevent? And I think the most exciting thing
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for me and for hopefully your say clinics, and maybe
for healthcare is to make sure people live longer. Seventy
percent of death are preventable. It's at the heart of cancer.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Literally fifty that right.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
But what's important preventable is it's It sounds like crazy,
but it's true. If you find cancer in stage one,
it's curable. By definition stage one, when it's a very
very beginning, it doesn't protrude, doesn't go anywhere that they
can spread. So you fix it and that's it, Like
you never had a cancer if you find it. So
(18:30):
I'll give you example with lung cancer. Thank God, it's
getting better. And it's getting better because you know, amazing
things happened, people decrease smoking. Who would imagine this twenty
years ago, would never imagine New York City restaurants, no smoking, No,
we'll all live in a new world. And early detection
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fifteen million Americans can have for free scan of you know,
city scan, and before five years survival was three to
and now find earlier can be ninety five percent five
to ten years of complete turn tables and hard people
mostly die from unknown heart disease because there's a heart origion.
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I know, if you if you diagnose almost its mechanical problem,
almost everything can be fixed. So early diagnosis is critical.
And if you'll find it early, then we'll make people
leave and and it will be very cheap. The only
thing is medicine is built today feed for service, so
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if patient doesn't produce revenue like chemotherapy and other things,
it's not very good for business of medicine. So I
think we need to have a big shift in incentives
and focus. That's not this but actually what's important the
outcomes and decreased costs and the best outcomes need to
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be rewarded. Don't know, I can't necessarily for myself and
make this difference, but we can do it our part,
you know, just trying to provide the data be available
against sixty five percent of US population within a driving
distance and keep talking about this to the right people
and who knows. Now new administration, that's let's hope for
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the best. And you know, there's a lot of effort
to think about health and the longevity, and people talk
about all the by hacking and other things. I don't know.
We can talk about a lot of mysterious things, but
we can talk about very easy understood and practical things
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like all the diagnosis cheap and make a huge difference.
So I hope this message will be heard, and I'm
pretty sure it will be because you know, eventually the
right things come out many people think at the same time,
and when it's enough push it, it will it will happen.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah, same point message that a lot more people should
be listening to.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Right.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
It s safsy on the monetary side, but also long
term better quality of life.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
And your say, clinics is based on education of patients,
empowering patients, even if underserved community. It's not like just
opening offices in a bad neighborhood and bronx, No, it's
just educating the patients, educating a bad options. And I
think for patients, for people, get patients, like people taking
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care of the health they have one body. I heard
Buffett once talking to you know, students or someone to
give example, like, you know, if you would have a
one car for life, would you take good care of life?
I mean, like your body, your health, if you just
have one, would you take care of it? And and
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I think we need to think this way that if
you that's your body, you need to you know, if
you want to have a long, deductive, meaningful life, you
know you need to have about it that functions. And
so I think today with the technology, we can like
planes don't fall from disguise right, and they can be
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one hundred years old because of redundancy and proactive maintenance.
And if well, if we'll have the same approach to
the human body, and healthcare can be extremely safe and
predictable and inexpensive and scalable. So I'm very excited where
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we're going. I think we can really discover new healthcare
and new life and hopefully, you know, one hundred hundred
and twenty years old will be in a good shape, functioning.
I think it's achievable.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Well, I love that positivity. I hope you're right, and
I hope we do move in that right direction.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
Okay, asking my thing. I'm right.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Another impressive fact about your is you did found you
were the founder of the Chicago Heart Institute, founded to
tackle complex cardiovascular conditions. What inspired you to create that
and what is the legacy you hope it leaves.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
That was a long time ago then when I was
a heart surgeon, and I really like what I'm doing,
And it's interesting. When I started at the University of Chicago,
I had the shows and the radio stations about heart
conditions and if you have a shortened of breadth, if
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you have this, let us help you. And part of
the Heart Chicago Heart Institute was how do we bring
top notch here to patients by educating them and providing
access transparency instead of over complicating and just saying all
(23:57):
the strange words that people don't understand. We just need
to provide the best care to the patients with the
knowledge and try to eliminate as many as possible middleman.
And you know, from this it just transitioned to other
minimal invasive treatments that can help instead of one or
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two patients a day to twenty or tens of thousands
like we do right now in our amazing organizations. With
the one hundred plus fantastic doctors and great stuff. And
I think I'm very lucky, very lucky, glad to hear that.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well. I know we talked about this a little bit earlier,
balancing between your business acumen and obviously your experience within
the clinical medical space. How do you feel like those
two experiences combined make you a better leader in the space.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I think when we being in touch with the reality,
you know, understanding how to help the patients. I don't
think you can be the most effective healthcare leader can
be a doctor who things scale and about consistency. You know,
(25:10):
if you think too much or I'm a doctor from
doctor's perspective, or I'm a doctor, I'm so important, I
learned so much, I need to get paid a lot.
It's wrong think from the patient perspective. How can you
help one patient? How can you help million patients? And
if you don't know, how do you help one hundred?
You think how can you help ten thousand? Until you
(25:31):
find solution? And I think using technology today, you know,
there's the EMAR. There was great thing that happened in
the last twenty five years bringing electronic medical records, but
most of electronic records it's you know, garbage in, garbage out.
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It's just like fancy word document. Sure, it's not structural data.
You can put anything, and that's why things are confusing.
I don't think even AI can read this and understand.
Because people are people, they sometimes put whatever the minimum
they can get away with. We approach very differently. We
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think that knowledge should be gold and everything is structural data.
So when you have a data that's absolutely meaningful, every
single thing yes or no, definitive, and you put on
top of this rule's best practices and you track outcomes,
it's incredible. That's the tool that we use to treat
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achieve outcomes and talk about this and track and I
think it's very scalable. I hope this approach will be
patient first and structural data and rules first before. Oh
I'm a doctor, I know. I mean that's I think
that's that's what allows medicine to be much better in
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the next few years. And I'm sure many others will
use this approach as well.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Another great approach that you do is while you've been
recognized for a lot of the great work you're doing
in medicine, you've also been recognized for a lot.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Of the great work you do on the philthic side.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
What advice do you give to other healthcare professionals or
those that are just entering the field to not lose
sight of the importance of giving back and being involved
into the line for the piece out there.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
I think it's very important to think about big picture
why you went to medicine, helping people and helping people.
It's not only you know prescriptions, it's not only surgeries.
Just educate people about ability to live better and longer
(27:49):
and achieve more, maximize the life. I always tell that
our goal, for example with fib words, is to give
women the best version of her life as early as possible,
and I think anything that we can do to advance it.
For example, we have Fibrid Fighters organization that we've found
me and my wife, doctor Flora, maybe seven or eight
(28:14):
years ago, and that was amazing educating women about different
options and many When you have a good idea, many
great people joined, you know, with this energy and contribute
and it just grows beyond a regional scope much larger.
Another example that I really like it is to save
a child's heart. When I was in Israel, we were
(28:35):
doing heart surgeon and kids from around the world, and
then I got a knighte in Nation award in twenty eighteen.
They treated more than maybe seven thousand patient kids from
all over the world, more than sixty countries for free,
and established heart surgeon in many countries at the open
in Tanzania. And it's unbelievable. So I think always need
(28:59):
to think. You know, when I was a heart surgeon,
I knew two words when someone called thank you very
much right away. That's all You'll never ask, you know,
details insurance, This just like thank you for a trust yep,
let me do the best. And I think everyone who
goes to medicine or even healthcare need to think this.
(29:21):
And it's a beyond just job. Yep.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
We touched on this earlier, but I think it's an
important topic to dive a little bit deeper into, which
is access to healthcare. Right it's not just an issue here,
but really globally it's become a very pressing issue. What
advice would you give to others in the healthcare industry
to change that? And how do you believe an organization
like USA Centers is changing that way.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
I think it's exciting opportunity because of technology. You know,
the people say medicine is local. I don't know, it's
not necessarily all. You have a good doctor around this
and you can access I think medicine is more a
bad information. It's about knowledge what's possible, and you know,
(30:11):
doctor needs to have a couple advanced things like had
to get the data and maybe but to see and
learn today doctor Google can be smarter than doctors. I
truly believe that because with the information that constantly updates,
it's possible to have a system that's really a up
to date and many things. What it means like traveless
(30:33):
cars provides absolutely new opportunity for transportation. Sorry to say,
but doctor is medicine to me is the key to
scale and give extraordinary care anywhere for almost free. So
I actually extremely optimistic. By utilizing technology and then bringing
(30:56):
the medicine what doesn't require surgery or other things basically
free anywhere in the world, that becomes not local, global,
I maybe we'll get to the point that maybe actually
to care will be right. I don't know, things that
were not possible twenty years ago, I see maybe realistic
(31:16):
within the very short period of time. We have a
software that were actually between seventy two hundred software engineers.
We'll do it for maybe thirteen years already. That build
system everything from voice of very PE telephony to control
and track every conversation and EMR that knows everything is
(31:38):
as a structural data and rules with digitalized rules of
bactors and patient engagement like basically guidelines. That's a bunch
of PDFs and tons of books we digitalized that it
can in real time match symptoms, signs, objective findings to
all these rules and guidelines and suggest the best actions
(31:59):
that cost effective and extremely effective as outcomes. And I
think I think it can be used beyond our organization
needs and beyond just procedures and expanded. So I'm very
excited at what lies ahead of us, and I hope
(32:20):
we can make USA Clinics a very generic name, can
make a broader difference and not even maybe even beyond us.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
I love that. I'm excited to see the future and
what's in store for you guys. Next. We covered a
lot today.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
Do you feel like there's anything that we might have
missed that you wanted the listeners to know about USA Clinics.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
US Clinics has about one hundred and seventy locations in
thirty three states. We have more than forty locations in
New York City also, you know I love New York City.
And then we provide cure for many conditions, vascular conditions,
venus in sufficiency arteries, fibirds, you know, women's health state,
we don't we we okay to take care of men
(33:04):
as well. Instead of big surgeries, we can just rink
prostate with the minimum evasive percutaneous treatments. Now we treat
to a steratritis and and we're always evolving. And what
I can tell about USA Clinics that because of the
approach and data driven approach, I hope we can deliver
great outcomes to every patient that comes to us. That's
(33:26):
at least our very hard work and intention. And then
they can find us on the USA Clinics dot com,
USA Fibrid Centers. And the most important thing, everyone needs
to be in charge of the health. You just have
one body take care of it with us, not with us.
But just don't ignore it, don't take chances, don't hope
(33:50):
for the best. Just it's possible to have long and
happy and productive life. Don't ignore it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
That's awesome. That's great advice, Steve.
Speaker 3 (33:59):
Think if I'm much That was amazing, spontaneous invitation.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Absolute.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
I always love to ask one last question. So there
is no doubt in my mind that based on your
story and your journey and the future work that you're
going to do, you're going to leave a legacy in
the field of medicine for anyone tuning in that's thinking
about entering the industry or have that passion to be
able to help others. Like you said earlier, what advice
(34:26):
would you give them?
Speaker 3 (34:28):
A high, aim high and know your stuff. I mean
it's really everyone that asks in our organization want to
be very tall. People have a strategy, think beyond horizon
and dream and just don't waste your life in small things.
At the same time, you need to be put from
(34:50):
the ground, really good at what you do, and this combination,
if you can groom yourself to be you know, like this,
that would be you'll have exciting life and make a
lot of difference, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's awesome. Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I was absolute pleasure learning more about you, learning more
about USA clinics and all the amazing work you're doing.
So Thank you very much for coming in. Thank you awesome,
Thank you guys for tuning in, and tune in next
week for next week's edition of CEOs.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
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