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July 8, 2025 • 34 mins
This week Jenny recaps her Iceland trip, her sketchy tip, Falen's life advice from a friend and more! Happy to be back!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're officially back. Hello, and I don't know of any
days off in the near future other than like Labor Day.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't. I have no
vacation planned besides like weekend stuff where I'm not taking vacation.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
I have vacation, but I leave on Tuesday, a Tuesday,
so I was able to do the podcast on a Monday,
which is great. So welcome that vacation. Do you have
in two weeks of going to a Kadia?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Okay? I figured it was probably your National Park one,
but I didn't. Yes, remember, I have one present for you,
and I had intended on having two. It's not a present. Actually,
I shouldn't have I shouldn't have started like that.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Well, what the hell is it? An noise?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
No, it's just your rain jacket back.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
That is not a prize.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know. I don't know why I said it like that.
I was trying to set it up in a different ways.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I thought, you're on be a souvenir.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
No, okay, so here's your jacket back because I didn't
want to forget. But I'm back from Icelands, and don't
let me borrow her jacket.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
It smells grows does it.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Because I did sniff it to see if I needed
to like clean it somehow, and I didn't know. I honestly,
we got really fucking lucky with the weather because we
did not encounter much rain at all.

Speaker 1 (01:05):
That's great.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
It was really really crazy different weather than what I
anticipated from everything I read about and heard from people. Yeah,
but I truly was going to bring you back at present.
But here's the story. Okay, you told me about the
cinnamon rolls at Broad and Co. And I go first day,
have one text fallon. It was beautiful. It was like
heaven in my mouth. As soon as I started eating.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm always like, it's not like an American cinnamon roll.
It doesn't a blaze, It's just a million times batter.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It's just so good. It's very doe. It's great. So
start the trip with that last full day there, we're
back in I don't Reiki Vic. I can't even say
it still Reaki Vic. So I'm like, hey, we got
to go to Broad and Co. And it's like three
in the afternoon, so I'm like, they're kind of closing students,
so let's go to this one close by and in
case they're out, we'll go to this other one. We go,

(01:53):
they're out. I'm like, god darn it. So we go
to the other one and we bolt it there because
they're closing at four and it's like three thirty. And
I get there and they had one left. Yeah, and
Mama was hungry. I don't blame you it. So I
ate it, and I'll be truthful. That one was on
a scale of the first one being a ten out

(02:13):
of ten, that one was only at about a seven
at that point. I feel like they're so I feel
like if I and that was Saturday, I wouldn't have
gotten it to you until today, which is Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
It would have been terrible.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
It would have been terrible, and so I ate it.
But I really was going to bring you back since
you let me borrow your jacket, I was going to
bring you back one. And they had one left.

Speaker 1 (02:31):
A thought accounts Kaya, who used to be on the
morning show k Wan Too, brought me back one and
it was pretty quick, like I think, like literally the
next day. And it still wasn't I mean, I still
ate most of it, but I was like not going
to complain. But it's kind of like a sweetmarth As cookie,
like the I know some people don't like Sweet martha Is.
Keep in mind I love them, yes, but when they're
fresh and warm, they're amazing. But about two hours later, no, thanks, Yeah,

(02:55):
I don't need them. They don't.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
They lose they lose something. No, and I feel the same.
I do feel the same way about Sweet Martha's. But
I was so sad because I intended on getting like four,
because I was gonna definitely eat one right away, probably
eat one later in the day.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's what Jake and I did.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Yeah, and bring like one other back for myself and
one back for you. And I got there and there
was one left.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
And I'm like, oh, I kind of wish I had
tried some other other pastries. They had so many, but
I was like, I just want to go basic to try.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
I did get one of the other ones because they
only had one cin mineral left, and I did eat
that later in the day. But once again, I think
because it was soaate in the day, I don't feel
like it held up as well had it been earlier.
But it was good. It was kind of some omens
pastry of some sort, but it was pretty good. So
I'm sorry I didn't bring anything.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
You are forgiven. It's totally fine. So with the trip
back from Iceland, what were some of your highlights?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
It's really hard to say, because I really think that
every single day I had a fantastic time. My sister
and I traveled so well together.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
It's so good.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
I mean, I was in charge of everything for the
most part, and that's fine because that's my personality anyways.
But just every little thing, like we ended up basically
beating jet leg because instead of going to bed at
a normal time, we stayed up till like two or
three in the morning every day because the sun doesn't
set there right now, and then we'd sleep in till
ten am, and so we basically were on Central Time

(04:23):
for the most part. That's awesome because we were. In
other terms, it would have been going to bed at
like ten pm and getting up at five am. So
that was fun. And then when we would get up,
it wasn't like this rush to get going or anything
like we'd get up and start doing things right away,
but we both like to put makeup on and so,
and she took much longer in that aspect of things.
But then I'd just start driving if she was still

(04:44):
getting ready. So like the getting ready, time worked out,
she was down to do every single thing that I
wanted to do. I didn't really think ahead of the
fact that, like, I'm very used to having someone with
me on trips who was very adventurous like me, and
so I did bring on some hikes that were terrifying
to her. The first one we did on the first

(05:04):
full day we were there, she didn't come all the
way to the top. I just like literally started running,
and I bought trail runners actually and ended up using
those instead of my hiking boots the entire trip. And
it was great because I literally did some trail running
on this because if she didn't want to come, I
would like kind of run and go much faster. And
so there were a couple of hikes where she didn't
actually come all the way to the top with me

(05:25):
because she just has a fear of things. But and
I also I am a very fast paced hiker and walker,
so I had to like slow down a little bit
here and there because she didn't walk quite as fast
as me. And I know I walked fast because even
when I hiked with some people on the North Shore
a month or so ago, they even brought it up
They're like, you're really fast, and I was like, man,
I thought we were all going the same pace. Yeah,

(05:45):
Like no, we were keeping pace with you.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
And I was like, oh, I'm a fast walker, but
I'm not a fast hiker. But I can't slow down,
so whatever my pace is, Like going with Olive kills
me because I'm like, bro, if I slow down and
take a stop every ten seconds, I'm not going to
finish it. Like I let my mind ruin things, like

(06:07):
I am not a mind over matter person, like I'll
it'll ruin me. So I'm like, I'm not made to
hike with children, but I have one.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
So yeah. But I mean, Iceland's just beautiful. It's like
if you combined Oregon with Alaska with Colorado, like so
many different landscapes in one And truly I didn't love
a lot of the stuff that most people go to
because we had traveled the country on the Ring Road,
which goes around the whole country. A lot of people
just do the South area and the Golden Circle and

(06:37):
just the landscape in my opinion, in like the Northeast
and the East Fjors, those towns and all that stuff.
It was just so beautiful and I honestly felt like
it was a little bit more beautiful than some of
the other stuff that most people go to. But I
mean still regardless, it's all amazing. No matter what you do,
it's still amazing. So I yeah, we had such a

(06:58):
great time, and I think by the last full day
that we had, we were so drained because we had
done so much, like every single day it was multiple things,
if not multiple hikes whatever, and it was constantly driving too,
So I definitely was very drained by the last day
that we didn't do a whole ton and we were

(07:19):
at our campsite by like five pm, and it was
literally part of the camper van company that we rented from.
They have their own little campsite because we had to
be there at like six thirty the next morning anyways
to drop the camper van off and get to the
on our flight. So that was really convenient, but I
felt like it was such a waste that we were
just like sitting in the camper in this like camper

(07:39):
van lot whatever. But yeah, stay in any hotels or anything, No,
just did the van the whole tel okay, because you
had mentioned maybe you would get a hotel, I thought
I didn't know how my sister would do because obviously
I have done camper van stuff for like a year now,
so I'm very used to the small quarters and whatever.
But we stayed at campsites, and I am going to

(07:59):
give the exclusive of the sketchy shit that we did
on this site on this trip that we couldn't have done,
and maybe we'll be burned by it eventually. I have
to check my accounts. So most campsites only have people
working at them. From now I gotta do military time.
What's eighteen to twenty two.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
It's twelve hours different, So eighteen would be six.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Okay, so six to ten pm? Okay, So six to
ten pm they'd have like somebody working in for you
to go pay, and then again in the morning from
like ten am to like noon or one or something.
So we found that out the first night because we
rolled in at like nine forty five pm, and then
at like ten they closed up and other people were
coming in and nobody knew how to pay whatever, And

(08:43):
I was like, wait, shit, like so if we get
here after.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Jenny, we don't have to pay Jenny.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
And I only say this because my friend went there.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
How much was it to stay at it like you
pay per person, okay, but it was anywhere from probably
like already five to fifty dollars for like total sorry
for two people, and which I know in the grand
scheme of things, isn't that expensive.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
But the way we were traveling, we literally were getting
in after anyone was working, right, and sometimes we were
leaving before. And so of the nine nights, yeah, three
of them we did not pay. Oh okay, And so
I think the thing honestly, yeah, yah, there's only one campsite.
I'm a little bit nervous we're gonna get a fine

(09:28):
appe because did you guys go to It's called like
Stoked Stokesnis Island. It's got like like a Viking village,
but it's this like black sand beach with these mountains
that overlook it. I did one of my pots. They
have like a.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Viking burial there. We went to one they were we
went to. I felt like definitely black sand beaches. I
don't know if it's that one. It's not that one, okay.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Anyways, It so that one people just like go and
they pay to go to the look at the Viking
village and the beach and these mountains and stuff, and
we went and explored at like twelve thirty am that night,
and we got into the campsite at like midnight, so
everything shut whatever, and we go and explore, get up
in the morning and we leave and I go to

(10:13):
this coffee shop and my sister was just like hanging
out in the van at that point, and I just
wanted to like chill and drink coffee for a little bit.
And it was more of a restaurant, so I go
and sit up at the bar and I'm talking to
this guy who's working behind there for a while and
he goes, yeah, I mean, you guys are really lucky
you didn't get shot. And I go what. He's like,
you can't, like you can't go there after hours, And

(10:34):
I'm like, I saw so many people walking down there,
like they put a gate up. Yeah, and You're like,
so you can't drive down there anymore. But people had
been walking back and forth so when the gate was up,
so I thought it was okay. But when we went
there was no one there and he goes, no, that's
like privately owned. That guy's like known to be a
little bit crazy. And then he tells me the story
about how his friend's grandma used to own it, which

(10:57):
is so wild to think this beautiful landscape is like
rightly owned. And his friend's grandma used to own it.
She was kind of like having dementia on her deathbed,
and this guy got her to sign it over to
him and so now he owns it. And so some
Iceland tea drama for you. And so that was one
thing that we probably we didn't pay for the campsite

(11:17):
at that one. So yeah, that's the one where I
think we're gonna get knocked on if we get a fine.
In case there's because there's cameras everywhere in Iceland. They
get you for everything if you don't pay the parking fees,
which was the one thing I didn't do enough research on.
I had no idea you had to basically pay it
every single waterfall to park.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Yes, I guess I don't remember that, but yes, yeah,
you have to.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
And so by the end, once we got to the
Golden Circle area, we kind of ended up skipping most
everything I had pinned because I was like, we've seen
so many waterfalls. I do not care about paying for parking.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Again, Like I remember, before you left it, go you
kind of get to the point where like, oh, like
I've seen I'm good on waterfalls. When we just drove
up North Jakes, you want to stop a Gooseberry falls,
I'm like, I don't. I don't care. I feel so bad.
He's like, cool, there are other cool things. I'm like,
I just don't care about seeing a waterfall right now.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah. But anyways, so yeah, I feel like there was
I took like some notes because I feel like there
was something I wanted to bring up on here, but
I don't really know. The only other thing I'll say
is if you go to Iceland in the summer, and
what time did you guys? What time of the year
did you go.

Speaker 1 (12:21):
I want to say it was in August, but I
can't remember because we got married in September and we
went before our wedding.

Speaker 2 (12:27):
Okay, which, by the way, Fallon brought me back a
hat from that trip, and I wore that like the
entire trip, a winter hat. Yeah, you got me a
winter hat and it's like a nice ill wear, yeah,
like wool hat. I literally wore that most of the trip.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Oh, what's that like getting a souvenir from Iceland?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
Jenny, I'm sorry, No, the only thing I'll say is
that there was one hike that was very highly recommended
from so many people to this like hot thermal river
and it was one of the worst things we did because,
oh no, why they have things called biting midges and
it is like flies that just fucking attack you. And

(13:04):
so you can see all these marks on my Oh yes,
the mosquito bites kind of they are so they don't
have mosquitoes, but they have these biting midges basically in
like June and July or something. And it was so
weird because on the way up there's was a decent
amount of elevation on this hike to get to the river,
which was like two and a half miles to get there,
and on the way up it was so bad. My

(13:26):
sister like she gets frustrated. I think a little bit
easier than I did. But she was like super chill
the entire trip. That was the only time I think
I saw her, yeah, get frustrated because they would not
leave us alone. At one point, we're sweating our asses off.
It's actually a nice day. I put this like zip
up I had over my face trying it because they
were going into our ears like everything and so we

(13:49):
get to the river. It was fine when we were
in the river, but then on the way down, I
was like, we're literally going to run down this trail
just now, I'm not dealing with these butts. No, But
on the way down it was like, I don't know
if it was because the wind, it was the opposite way.
But the bugs didn't bother us on the way down,
but we still saw the people coming up swatting at things.
It was so weird, even though they were two feet

(14:09):
next to us but going in a different direction. So, yeah,
be aware that something called biting midges exists in Iceland.
You don't have to deal with mosquitoes, but you might
have to deal with those if you ever go in
the summertime.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Did you like the wild Icelandic courses?

Speaker 2 (14:23):
Yes, they were great. I think we went up to
like a few that did come up to us right away,
but a lot of them kind of ran away. Yeah,
when we would like get too close.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
Did you notice I think it's like the sheep are
in threes always.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I believe that when a mother has a baby, she
always has two or something like that. Because someone explained
why they're always in threes, and I think it was
something like that.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Oh you know what I mean. I don't think I
noticed that until you brought it up. I would see
three at a time. But now that you bring it up,
that makes sense, because yeah, it was usually always like
three rolling around on the side or like walking on
the side of the road. So yeah, that was Yeah,
that was fun.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Did you see wild goats? Like she like, I'm like,
honey in the mountains.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Or I might have seen we I think we did
see some goats. Honestly, at the top of one of
the hikes, my sister didn't come all the way up.
There was probably like another one hundred or two hundred
yards that she didn't make it to. But at the
top it was like this pretty like a very steep
drop off of this rock formation. So you're sitting up there,
you're getting your pictures. This girl starts face timing. She's

(15:27):
by herself, and I'm by myself, and she starts face timing.
I'm trying to get a video of me with the
background or whatever. I hear her scream and I'm like,
what the heck because this bird just flopped right next
to her on this rock and where she was sitting
she is like so lucky because she was facetiming too
at the same time that she did not fall. And

(15:47):
I so those birds because then I get down to
where my sister is and then my sister points at
this bird and she goes that thing scared the shit
out of me. And I was like, dude, that thing
just did that. Did the girl up there and she
almost fell.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Off the edge?

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Uh huh no, pass, Yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, welcome back. We missed you.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Thank you. I mean you went on adventures too. I
didn't know you were gonna go to the North Shore
and that looked fine.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
We loosely talked about it. I was we initially was like,
let's go for the Fourth of July weekend and Jake,
we have a bow, like, let's actually and I was
in a grance, like I didn't want to pay for
a hotel and everything is We're going on our Akadia
trip in a couple of weeks. So we yeah, we
just went. We drove up Toby's is Jake's mess stop
spot always has been since we've like gone up there together.

(16:32):
I had never been to the Black Sand Beach, but
it became it's like one of those Tiktoks I saw
probably four years ago or something, and I saved it
and just have never gone. And I was going to
go to the Iona one to the Pink Rock Beach,
but we didn't stop at that one because at that
point where the kind of worn out. We did the
day hill hike to go see the Split Rock and

(16:53):
it was so foggy you couldn't see it, which is
also like it was a very foggy day we chose,
but we always go to New Scene and Cafe. It's
our favorite restaurant. And then we stopped at a coffee
place called like Cedar something Theater coffee company. Yeah, there's
a local. I follow a handful of local other than
Jetty of course, local bloggy kind of travel people. And

(17:14):
one girl is like liz An Lately and she had
posted that it was like a really great one. But
when I went there, I was like, I am ninety
nine percent positive I have been here before, Like I.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Don't forget it because it's kind of in a woe
yeah woods area.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
I'm ninety nine point nine percent positive I've gotten coffee
there before. Yeah, So anyway, it was good. It was,
you know, a fun full day with the family. Water
was obviously way too cold to get into. Knew that
was going to be the case, but yeah, so it was.
It was good. We had a good Fourth of July.
I decided I don't hate fireworks. I just don't give

(17:52):
a shit about them. Yeah, I don't think I will. Ever,
I didn't do it this year for this reason. I
don't want to stay up late. I don't want to
drive somewhere and park and deal with crowds. I don't
want to be around mosquitoes. And it's always the same.
If I knew someone, and this has been the case before,

(18:14):
whose house was just right there with the fireworks, you
could just sit on their lawn, I would go, yeah,
but I do not, And so I just I do
not care about fireworks enough. I get to hear them
all night. Congratulations, you know what I mean. Like, I
don't know. That was because we went last year to Excelsior.
I was just eaten a live by Mosquitos the whole time.

(18:36):
Traffic it was chaotic. I'm like, no, it's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
I don't think I've enjoyed them living in the Twin Cities. However,
growing up, when my parents were together, we had a pool,
so we actually that was like the one thing a
year we did was throw a Fourth of July party. Yeah,
and we my dad would always put on a firework
show and nothing crazy like we didn't get the ones
that shoot up high in the sky, but he would
spend like a few hundred dollars on fireworks. And so

(19:02):
I think I really enjoyed stuff like that because of
my childhood. And then my sister lived on the lake,
which they always do the big firework show in my
hometown from the lakeside park. So then I've done that
where I've like kayaks out and watched it from the
lake and stuff from her house. But in the Twin Cities,
I do not seek out fireworks.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
That must see what it is, because we say growing
up my ann Barbara, uncle Raymond had a big farm.
They would host a fireworks show. It's like a huge
all day thing. And then I've even hosted Fourth of
July parties like at my house like since living here,
but it never involved fireworks. So I like a Fourth
of July gathering. But that's where I drovel. I just

(19:44):
don't care yeah about fireworks enough, and I've I made
the declaration this Fourth of July and let my family know.
Jake was very sad and disappointed. But he was sad
and disappointed because he realized. He was like, I'm taking
the boat out. We're not going to excel se or
it was a nightmare to get back through the channels.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
But he's like, we're gonna go to the one amound
and he looked it up and realized it's like this
weekend the fireworks they have. It was not the fourth
of July week Never mind, we are not going. Because
he was like, we're gonna go at nine They're at
like nine fifty. And Hannah, his sister, and I were like, no,
we're not. I go. You feel free to go. I
Am not going to the fireworks, no chance. But we
had a lovely weekend. We got a ton done. I

(20:25):
watched every possible thing in my house, pillows, betting. I
like that being done. Yeah, did a lot of pull
time at Lifetime yesterday just really you know, got it
in so good times.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I was pretty proud of myself because when I landed yesterday,
I had to do some work on the morning show,
and then I took a quick little nappy because I
had been up like I didn't sleep much the night before,
but then I literally did unpacked every single thing, did
all of my laundry from the trip, mowed the lawn,
returned things I bought for the trip that I didn't
use or need, and then grocery shops and did like

(21:00):
some organization in the house. But one thing is when
I pulled up in my uber to get dropped off
after the airport, I just forgot that I owned a
house for a while. And as I rolled up and
I saw the grass needed to be caught. The big
sections of the grass that got ruined by grubs is
still not fucking growing and it's driving me insane and

(21:21):
I don't get it. I am trying like everything I can.
And I also forgot that I started demoing my kitchen
before I left, and then I have a whole ass
project in my kitchen. I'm mid doing it. And I
really have to say, owning a home and living it
in by in it by yourself is pretty fucking exhausted.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, like I.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Really, truthfully, I took care of things on the inside
of the house, Andrew took the care of lautside. Yeah,
and so then now having to do all of it,
it just becomes really draining sometimes, And granted I put
myself in the position of all these house projects, I
get that, but uh yeah, I just kind of came
home and was slapped into reality really quickly. Well.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Also, it's been raining NonStop, so even though like we've
been keeping up on mowing, it didn't matter, like three
days later you have to moan again. It's been out
of control. So I can only imagine how tall year
grass was for being gone away.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
It was and half horrible because I was so nervous
about that because I had intended on mowing at the
day I was leaving, but it had been raining all day,
and it had rained the two days prior, and I
had I don't know, I hadn't mowed it too long
before that, so I really didn't get it mowed. I
don't know, it probably had been like two and a
half weeks. But yeah, the only thing that I don't know,

(22:37):
I feel like I don't talk about this stuff a
lot anymore because I think I've like I'm not moved
on from everything that's happened in my life. But towards
the end of the trip, I was like, oh my god,
I just spent all of this time with my sister,
and I had a good time with her, and it
was so fun. And I know how much I love
my alone time, but it was so nice to have

(22:59):
a person with me. Yeah, like pretty consistently. So towards
the end of the trip, I started getting like the
vacation blues, like sad it was ending, like yeah, going
back to reality. But the main thing was that, like
I was so sad that I was going home. God,
I get so mad at myself for getting upset, but
I was going home to like nobody, yeah, you know.

(23:20):
And it was like one thing that hit me for
the first time in a while of like emotions of
like this is the first time I've ever experienced that
or not ever experienced it, but I haven't experienced something
like that in a while. So it's like, you know,
you want to go home and tell everyone or tell
someone like everything you did. And I was going home
to like an empty house.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
And that was like, honestly like the harder part of
being sad about ending a vacation versus like I was
like I was excited to get back to a routine
and stuff. Yeah, And I was honestly exhausted from all
the shit we did on that show that I was
ready for like just not doing five million things a day.
But I really was like, man, I at this point

(24:03):
in my life, I am I am really sad to
not live close to family, Like, yeah, it makes me
like really realize that. I mean, I miss out on
so much stuff, and I just like, I don't I
have like a support system of great friends here, but
I don't have that family support system here. And that

(24:24):
was like kind of a big realization I had on
that trip, was like my family all can see each
other at any given moment, and I just do not
have that living in the Twin Cities. But I also
will never move back to fund Wisconsin.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
I know that this is like an outsider's perspective, and
I don't know like what your emotions were during the trip,
but one thing I actually thought of with you on
that trip is I was like, she would never ever
have experienced this time and these memories with her sister
had you not been broken up. Yeah, I genuinely don't
think you ever would have done a trip like that
ever with your sister period for life. And I was like,

(25:02):
and I literally thought about your sister. Also, you brought
this up off the podcast earlier. But I was, I
literally said to Jake, I go, Jenny's sister two years
ago had a stroke. I bet every single one of
these like things are things she never thought she'd do again.
And these are like I just thought about, like the
beautiful like memories you guys were creating together for like

(25:24):
for you, you this was a trip you planned when
you were still together, but you never knew if he
was going with you because he never had committed but
to this trip for like work reasons, but you were,
you know, in a different headspace yep. And how like
I don't know it was. I felt like it was
seemed very as someone who knows you and knows like
inside stuff. It seemed like something really special that you

(25:49):
did in spite of things for both of you and together,
and I thought that was really like.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Lovely, And I agree, I am so so happy that
we did that together because it is something that like
we'll both remember for the rest of our lives. And
it was so great. And I told Vallanes already, like truly,
I did not spend a ton of time hanging out
with my younger sister growing up, because she was the
younger sister and my older sister and I were a

(26:17):
year apart in school and we just had like mutual
friends almost, and so like we spent a lot of
time together. And when you're a kid, you know, you're
eight year old sister and I'm twelve and my older
sister's thirteen, Like that's a that's a big life difference
at that point, so you just don't hang out. Yeah,
and so it was just nice because now we're both

(26:38):
adults and it was nice to have that time with her.
And I agree, I like, you know, there's a lot
that has changed in my life in the last few months,
and a lot of things that are different that would
I know, I wouldn't be doing if it wasn't for
the situation that I'm in. But yeah, the the trip
really was great, and I'm I had so much fun

(26:59):
and that was true. Really one of my things is
when I became single, like I was so sad did
not have like this person who I went on all
of these trips with and had so much fun all
the time because we had traveled so well together. I
was like, what if I never find someone like that?
Because I'm pretty aggressive when I go on trips with

(27:19):
the planning and like the amount of adventures I want
to do, and Katie was literally down to do every
single thing that I was down to do. And was
she scared on some of the hikes, yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
And I felt bad because I literally didn't even think
twice as I'm like running up these mountains and yeah,
on like a ledge area, and she like I had
to hold her hand on a couple things, and I
was like, I'm like, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
Like I it didn't cross my mind when I was
planning certain things that she might be scared to do whatever,
but she still did literally almost every single thing.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Also, not being close to family is such a real thing.
I'm very lucky, Like I have Jake Sanley and I
like them so much, and then obviously my mom is here,
but cult who my radio partner. He talks about that
a lot, Like he gets he'll like be like, what's
to like having a family around? Or he'll go a
step further, what's to like having like a family you
like being around? You know, you could have a family around,

(28:10):
but you don't actually enjoy hanging out with them like
we genuinely enjoy Jake's family and stuff. So much that
like we actively like look for things to do with them,
you know. And I just yesterday sent I am the
Jenny of Jake's family, and I sent yesterday our full
itinerary for Acadia to the entire family group chat. But
they're just I don't think any of them would plan

(28:32):
a single thing if I didn't plan it. I'm not kidding.
I don't even know if they would have. I think
the trip would have just got been canceled. I don't
think they would have even booked a hotel.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
And the thing is, the people that are like that,
they don't care about doing a million things like you
and I do, so like they are still going to
have fun on the trip even if they don't have
an itinerary. But I think that we just have these
expectations of trips and if you don't do your research,
you're going to miss out on like they're really fun things.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Well, the one thing I don't have, we don't I said,
we don't just stick to the itinerary. We can change
things around, especially like weather depending But like, the thing
I don't like is going on a trip and you
don't have any ideas, so you sit around for two
hours being like where should we go for dinner or
what should do for an activity? And also the good
thing with his family and like how he kind of
explained Katie, they're down for literally anything, and I have

(29:18):
like other friends or family that are like really indecisive
and like it would just be kind of a nightmare.
I think. Yeah, so I was going to tell you too.
I know we're getting close to time here, but I
was talking to a friend and it was like I
just wanted to share it on the podcast because I
thought it was like, she's you look like younger than me,
but I always think she's like very, very wise. And

(29:41):
we were just talking about like a breakup and like
work stuff and different things, and she said a couple
of things to me and I was like, I hadn't
really thought of them like that, but but basically she
was like, I believe you have two types of decisions
you make. You've sold a decisions and you have ego decisions,

(30:02):
and which in reality, maybe you've thought of it like
that before. She's like, but she's like talking about a
job and she's like, this one would be ego based, Yeah,
this one is soul based. Sometimes there can be a
little bit of crossover, but we were going in depth
and like I can't go into details because she'd probably
kill me, but with also relationships and stuff, and she

(30:27):
was talking about timing and how timing seems to just
always work out the way it's supposed to write, and
that doesn't mean that bad things don't happen, and things
like that. But it really did have me thinking because
I've made a lot of decisions in my life on
the ego side of things, right, especially when you're younger,
and I think as you get older, you do get

(30:48):
better most people, some people can never grow out of it.
I think you do get better about making the soul decisions.
And it's like maybe it's not as flashy of a
title or like a company, or maybe it's not like
this or that, but like does it fulfill you in
a deeper way or make you happier overall or different things?

(31:12):
And I think a lot of people have tough decisions
they have to make, And I would just say, my
wise friend recommended to look at it truly objectively and
are you having a hard time based on ego or
based on soul? And that the timing can work out perfectly.
So I just wanted to pass that along because I

(31:32):
was like, I had been thinking about that a lot
lately for various things in my life, and I just
really I was like, I really appreciate it, Like that
was like we weren't even talking about me in this moment,
but I'm going to apply that to my life. So
anything else. No, did you watch the Alex Cooper documentary? No,

(31:53):
it's only like two episodes. I watched it. I thought
it was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, I mean I just read the I mean I
think on like some of the Dave Stirt stuff on
the show. Yeah, just about how other teammates were like
basically saying like they didn't have any issues with the
she brought up. That's the only thing I really know about.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
I feel bad, Like I'm glad she shared that for
her peace of mind. That was the least interesting part
of her documentary because I care about her career part,
because the career is a similar alignment to like hours,
just on obviously much grander scale in the fact that
it's been like five years and she's already this huge
that is literally wild, literally wild.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
So I'll watch it though, Yeah, that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
It was only two episodes. I just and the first
one was a lot about the soccer team college thing.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Oh okay, I really just got into Love Island. But
I'm still chanting. I know, I'm still only on episode
like ten or something. I'm so far behind, four.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Hundred behind now.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah, something like that, which I didn't realize is going
into it. What a commitment it is every day of
your life. So I that's the only thing I've committed to.
But I think I need to like take it easy
this week on because I did. I think the month
of June I had myself like overworked in certain like
house project stuff and getting ready for this trip and
all this other stuff. And the only thing I care
about this week is kind of like honestly resting because

(33:15):
that wasn't exactly a relaxing vacation, and getting some content
out on my blog, which watch out, because if you're
interested in stuff that we did in Iceland, I'll have
that up. I'm shooting for by like Sunday to at
least have a couple blogs up just about like our
itinerary and how we did camper van life there and stuff.
But I'm going to try to put quite a few

(33:35):
things up about Iceland because I had so many questions.
So that's my week. So maybe I'll sit my ass
on the couch and start watching a lot of TV.
I'll like work on stuff at the same time. Am
I going to need to really pay attention to Alex
Cooper's documentary or could maybe work.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
A little bit at the same time work? Okay, it's
really short. It's literally, like I said, two episodes. That's
not I was like, oh I could have used more.
So yeah, anyway, but okay, well we're happy to back. Yeah,
thanks for listening. Have a wonderful week.
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