Caring for an ecologically vibrant home garden

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody, Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson, and you
are in the garden here on news radio six' TEN,
wtvn talking about yardening as we say goodbye To march
and Hello. April and spring is going to fly in
here like. Crazy things are starting to pop and flower
in the old nine. Yards and don't blink because the
next thing you, know spring is going to be over all,

(00:21):
RIGHT i got another book for, you And i'm going
to tell you something about this particular. BOOK i was
anxious to read it BECAUSE i want to learn more
about natural. Gardens and the gentleman who writes this wrote
this book and his other book Called New Nate. Naturalism
kelly De norris has just done an outstanding job working

(00:45):
through what natural gardens are with the first book and
then this one is a practical guide to caring for
an ecologically vibrant home. Garden and it is absolutely whether
you whether you want to do this type of, garden
the natural, gardens or. Not i'm telling you it is
a great. Read as a matter of, FACT i BEFORE

(01:08):
i AFTER i introduce, Him i'll explain to you. Why
but he Is KELLY. D. Norris he's an award winning, Author,
plantsman former director Of horticulture And education at The Grand
Greater Des Moineses Botanical. Garden you've seen his work has
been featured In The New York, Times Better homes And.
Gardens he's a, writer he's a. Photographer he contributes to
a lot of the popular garden magazines and the industry

(01:29):
trade the publications as. Well this particular two books are absolutely.
Outstanding you're gonna love. Him his Website kellydnorris dot, com
and he is with us this. Morning good, Morning KELLY. D,
Norris good Morning. Ron All, RIGHT i got. It i'm
gonna lay it on the line for. YOU i WISH
i could write like you. DO i started reading this,

(01:53):
book AND i read it from front to. BACK i
all do all the books that we recommend, here BUT
i started reading it AND i never. Stopped they got
to the.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
End, well that's very kind of you to. Say I'm
i'm glad you enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
It no, book no gardening, book has ever given me
a warm and fuzzy.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Feeling does that make.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Sense that's a quotable. Line i'll make sure we get.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
THAT i just kind of nestled back and read through
this and obviously it's it's caring for the ecologically vibrant home.
Garden but AS i read through, this AND i saw
the pictures and your philosophies and your theories and why
we should be doing this and and and why it
all comes, together AND i just KEPT i read it
from beginning to UNTIL i felt LIKE i was under a,

(02:35):
blanket like an.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Little cocoon at reading.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
THIS i, FEEL i don't, KNOW i feel kind of
dumb telling you, That But I'm i'm being honest with.
You you're you're, Great you're you're a great.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Writer, well thank. YOU i mean the you, know we
wrote the book as uh uh you, know or published
the book as of a passport for people to begin
to understand a new way of gardening and how to,
understand you, know their relationship with the landscape they live.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
In, well do you you, know do you find it
again at the natural?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Garden the?

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Naturalism you, know do you finding that more acceptable today
than maybe it was twenty or thirty years?

Speaker 2 (03:12):
Ago, WELL i CERTAINLY i think. SO i, mean we
run a small ecological landscape design practice here In Des, Moines,
iowa and we work all over the country for you,
know on all kinds of, projects public and, private large and,
small and we're just we're always, surprised pleasantly surprised by

(03:35):
the kind of work that ends up in our. Inbox
there's JUST i think a bigger, appetite a deeper interest in,
it and more people are becoming you, know engaged with.
It so it certainly is on the, up is.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
It do you think that this is because it's a
different you, know it's a different it's a natural look,
obviously a different look than our usual landscapes that we
see throughout the. Subdivisions do you think the pollinator issues
have been bringing this on? More do you think the?
Butterflies do you think that has all helped as?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
WELL i think IT'S i think it's all of those. Things.
REALLY i think there's an aesthetic aspect to. IT i,
think you, know there's there's for a lot of folks
an interest in just the beauty of a, wilder more natural.
Space BUT i also think a lot of people are
approaching it very practically and, thinking you, know a lot
about the way we've done traditional gardens is pretty, intense,

(04:25):
RIGHT i mean it's an act of control and so,
uh you, know it's people age and as, people you,
know maybe just reconsidered life as it. Is you, know
they think maybe there's a different way to go about.
This SO i think it's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
Things, WELL i, think you, know AND i don't remember
the quote from your book where you talk, about you,
know you create the, garden and along with the garden
comes the gardener and gardening you, know and all of,
that and then and and and of course we look
at these natural, gardens you, know and WHEN i first
look at, that AND i first started thinking about, it to,
ME i look at that and, say, man that looks

(04:57):
like a lot of a lot of work and a
lot of. Maintenance but on in, actuality it's. Not it's
a lot less than our standard landscapes that we see every.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
Day you, know a lot of things about our traditional
gardens are you, know it's like we're caring for individual
specimens and individual, plants and you, know the natural garden
we're leaning on kind of populations and communities of plants
where you, know we're we're growing more, plants but we're
leaning on you, know the lives of plants to sort
of hold the system in order so to. Speak and, so,

(05:28):
uh it's you, know it's less. Individual it's not like
caring for patients in THE, warld, Right it's it's less
individual attention and more more thinking about the bigger picture
as you as you do your.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Work the name of the book is Called Your Natural.
Garden it's a practical guy to caring for an ecologically
vibrant home. Garden his first, Book New. NATURALISM i would
highly recommend that you read that one as. Well i'm
telling you you're going to read, this AND i think
you're going to change your thoughts about the way you do,
landscaping and you're going TO i guarantee you going enjoy as.

(06:00):
Well i'm just. CURIOUS i, mean as you were growing
up and getting into this industry and learning and going
to school and training and doing, whatever were you ever
the traditional landscaper and finally kind of got into this
or have you always been looking more at the natural?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
GARDENS i suppose been the. LATTER i don't know That
i've ever, been you, know normative and that in that.
Way i've just always been interested in, plants the lives of,
plants and particularly the lives of plants in their wild natural,
places and So i've carried both of those, interests you,
know interest in gardens and interesting native place you, know
habitats and natural, homes you, know kind of through my

(06:42):
whole life and in. College so the two ends came
to meet a little. Bit and, really you, know the
course of my career has been trying to kind of
explore not only just the romantic and esthetic dimensions of
creating natural, gardens but also as well just trying to you,
know see gardens as having you, know a more important
place and connection to the landscapes and environments around.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Us so does that describe you out of the ordinary wild?
NATURAL i picked it all, Right so now we know
more About KELLY. D, norris and of course you can
learn more about him on his website Is kellydanorris dot.
Com the name of the, book again is A Practical
guide to caring for an ecologically vibrant home, garden your natural.

(07:23):
Garden there's other books outstanding as. Well it's Called New.
NATURALISM i highly recommend that it's just a good. Read
i'm telling you they're going to be warm and fuzzy
when you get done reading. THESE i don't, know it's
just something about you way you, write so you, know
as folks are listening to us right, now they, Say,
okay what are you talking about a natural?

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Garden you, KNOW i think.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Of a natural garden as a garden that really considers
its connection to the place around. It you, know it's
not just an inward, exercise, RIGHT i, mean it's the.
Garden it's still a. Garden it's it's something that you,
create and that's your plant that can be beautiful and you,
know experiential and enjoyable and what have. You but it's
a garden that that sets out with a bigger. Mission
it has an awareness and connection, to you, know the

(08:08):
place around. It it understands that the habitat that it,
offers even if it's, small it becomes part and parcel
to the you, know the greater array of habitats around,
it or maybe adds, up you, know with several gardens
on your street for. Instance you, know there are very
few things mine the garden, gate, RIGHT i, mean lots
of things move through our, gardens and so our gardens
are not separate from the world around. Us and SO

(08:31):
i just think a natural garden sort of starts off
by thinking, that you, know there's there's more here than
simply something that's pretty.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Putting together the, design the planning for to plant a natural.
GARDEN i, KNOW i look at it AND i refer
to the picture that's on page ONE o, eight WHICH
i thought was. Outstanding it's that slope planting that you
did In, Indianola, iowa which is absolutely. Gorgeous and of
course it's on a, slope which is a great way
to handle a. Slope but you, know a little bit

(09:01):
of homework's involved.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Here, well that's.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
TRUE i, mean this is you, know brief is a
little different.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Here.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Right we're making folks to get to know plants really.
WELL i mean that's something of course that only happens
the more that you're, garden, RIGHT i, mean the more
that you, grow the more that you. Know but you,
know the lives of plants are. FASCINATING i mean they're
not just they're not just things in, pots, RIGHT i,
mean they're they're, Living they're, alive they're participating in the

(09:29):
environment of their. Place and the more you can kind
of lean on how they behave and how they grow
and how they live in the space that you're tending at,
home you, know the more kind of power there is in. This,
Right you're not the One you're not the source of
all the energy out, here, right there's plants that are
doing some.

Speaker 5 (09:46):
Of the work.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Too i'll tell you what. Again the name of the
book is Called Your Natural. Garden it's By KELLY. D.
Norris ingo to his website too and check it Out
kellydeanorris dot. Com and of course the other book Is New.
NATURALISM i highly recommend. Both let's take a quick. Break
got lots more questions For kelly about our natural gardening
here on News radio six'. Ten Wtvn Kelly dean norris

(10:10):
is our special guest. This morning he is the author
of a couple. Great books the first One Was. New
naturalism the newest One Is Your, natural garden basically telling
you how to maintain that. Natural garden is, absolutely outstanding,
well written the pictures. Are phenomenal it just. Makes YOU
like i, SAID earlier i confess it's a warm and
fuzzy kind of. A book you will absolutely love it

(10:30):
and you'll start probably changing your thoughts and your ways
at gardening in your, own backyard, front yard whatever it.
May be by, THE way i need, to ask do
you have grass in?

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Your yard if we have just a little turf path
that runs through our front yard meadow and then makes
its way around. The house and that's. About it everything
else is, you know some kind of design.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Client community and of course with these, natural gardens we're
not talking, just, wildflowers perennials things. Like that it also, includes,
evergreens trees, you know it's just not, just, flowers right.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's, you know any kind of vegetation that reflects the
nature of. Your place, and so, you know the great
fun that we have, about working, you know as a
design studio that gets to work in a lot of
places is that our work looks like where. We work
so if we're, you know if we're in a, prairie
environment we're going to tap. Into that if we're we're,
somewhere else we're going to try and borrow from.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Nature's SCRIPT and i see in some of, the books
some of the pictures in, the book you have, nice
patios you have container gardens and there things. Like that
so you can also work in other gardening structures and
still enjoy that as well with your.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Natural.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Garden, YEAH absolutely, i mean we we, certainly want, you
know we acknowledge the fact that, you know gardens are
still part of the, you know cultural fabric, For people
so we need to create spaces for you for gathering
and entertaining and those sorts. Of things so when we're
working in, you know residential spaces or in our own garden,
at home were we're certainly thoughtful of all of those

(12:10):
kind of. Practical considerations but, you know once we define space,
for those we kind of take a maximalist mentality that
we just assume everything else is going to be planted
in some u some kind of, a natural.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
Natural fashion, you KNOW as i look at these.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
Natural gardens the other thing was run through my MIND
as i was reading. Through here, you know the roof
top gardens were hot for a while and they kind
of just, you know kind of, backed off and they
we still see a lot of it. Out there is
this this is, to me would this would be a
practical way to do the roof of if it if
the structure is right in a hospital or someplace, like

(12:46):
THAT because i know it used to be just a
select few plants that were tough. And durable but can
this be done as a?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Rooftop, garden sure there's, there's uh you know that this
is a strategy and an approach to how to. Work
with it's natural vegetation and the you know the precedence of,
natural vegetation and so, you know we're seeing these kinds,
of applications, you know and a lot of things that
might be called green infrastructure, these days, you know whether
that's looking at the cooling value that denser vegetation has,

(13:15):
on structures whether it's on roofs or walls or what.
Have you, SO yes i think that's all kind of,
you know part and parcel to how we're just reconsidering
how we want to live with our environment and how
we bring plants into.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Our lives kellydnors is, with us. Of course his Website
is kellydnors. Dot com TWO books i want you to
Check Out new naturalism and his, Newest Book Your. Natural garden,
all right so we've got this planting and, obvious maintenance
debt heading and things, like that and you address that.
Your book the BIG question i get a lot of
ties when folks try to create wildflower gardens and, all

(13:49):
this HOW do i know what's a weed and what's not?

Speaker 2 (13:52):
A weed and on our rule, around here and that
we talk about in the book is if you can't,
name it you can't pull, it right because if YOU
don't i don't know what, it is how could you
possibly know if it was a good actor or a
bad actor in. The, system so, you know luckily there's
a lot of, you know Apps and google lens and
these kinds of tools that are HELPING people, i think,

(14:13):
you know explore, and understand, you know maybe plants or
creatures that they come across from. The garden so, you
know it's important to be able to name something and.
Recognize it but a lot of things you can learn.
FROM observation, i mean as gardeners were down there on
our hands, and knees we're close to, the ground we're
looking at seeing and that can tell us a lot
about the nature of. Our place.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
All right so we deal with weeds every now and
then in our. Natural garden we also deal with in our,
other Gardens and i'm assuming we will in our natural
garden critters deer and squirrels and rabbits and. Ground hogs
gardeners love to make lists of good nature and, bad
nature and there's.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Only one so. You know the reality is is that
when you, create habitat things will things will come to.
Occupy it and some of those things are going to
post challenges to, you know maybe the aesthetics. On occasion
one of THE things i always, tell people, you know
we garden with a lot. OF deer, i mean there's
a lot of photos of our garden in. The book

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and you know we're worth quarter mile from a river floodplain,
AND so i mean we're an extension of that habitat,
and so but, you know when you're gardening with kind
of populations and communities, of plants, you know if the
deer e ten percent, of it, you know are are
you really going to miss you know? That much if
it's the? Numbers game and so that's, you know one
of the differences is starting to think about just, you

(15:35):
know more, and, more right more vegtimation and means also
a little more. Food supply but, you know the more
you have maybe the less you'll notice of the deer.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Nippy edges i'll, tell YOU as i look at some
of the pictures of the gardens that are, in Here
and i'm sure some of these are from your, own
backyard your gardens, AS well i can easily see myself
about six thirty seven o'clock in the evening, after dinner
down in a chair with my favorite adult beverage and
just enjoying the scenery and watching the birds and the

(16:06):
butterflies and the bees make their way through these. Natural
gardens it's.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know it's not, a, FANTASY right, i mean that's
That's we we like to indulge in some of those.
Same experiences we want to live with, our garden Right we,
you KNOW obviously i look out this time of YEAR
and i see a list OF things i need. To
do we've, already started, you know cutting back and kind
of restarting the gardens of. The year but one of
my favorite things to do in the garden is to

(16:33):
putter and to just observe and. To watch and there's
there's a whole richness that comes to life when you
are suddenly aware That on sundays you're you're actually just
a guest in your. Own garden there there's a whole
array of life that you're sharing the.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
SPACE with i, love it, just argue just a guest
in your. Own garden Talk WITH. Kelly. D norris his
Website is kellydanorris. Dot com the book Is Called Your.
NATURAL garden i would look at that IS being i
always use this as a reference dinner and. A.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
Show.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
Right that's a. Good.

Speaker 3 (17:06):
Idea boy i'll.

Speaker 1 (17:08):
Tell YOU what i can't say enough. Well done the book.
Is phenomenal if if, you don't if you read this
book and you don't change your mind about some of
the gardening techniques and the way you're gardening in, YOUR
landscape i would be surprised because it's. Just you you will,
love it, trust me and you're going to learn a
lot from it. As well both of. THE books i,
highly Suggest Both new Naturalism And Your. Natural garden one

(17:32):
last question. For you we're going to put you on the.
Spot here are?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
You ready? All right are you a? Vegetable gardener, you
know we don't do a lot of.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Vegetable gardening we do a lot of herbs, and pots
and we always have a few tomatoes. And pots but,
you know the dear pressure here does make that. Somewhat
challenging our neighbors go to some great links to kind
of warden off their their. Vegetable garden but we are
blessed with a great farmers market, in town so we
support people who have more acreage and passion for those

(18:03):
things and benefit all.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
The, THINGS well i.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Get It and i'm a big container, gardener myself but
you get the magical. Word tomato we always ask our
guests if you do grow your, own food and if you,
grow tomatoes do You because columbus is a huge. Tomato
town we have. Tomatoes throwdowns who's got the best flavor blah.
Blah blah so, Do YOU. Kelly, d norris have a
favorite tomato that you either buy?

Speaker 3 (18:29):
Or grow oh.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
My gosh we we love tomatoes and, you know we're
always kind, of growing, you know the latest sort of
heirloom or kind of new. Age airlom we can find
the indigo tomato that's kind, of yeah, Purple, ones yeah
those those. Are terrific we love making a little a
little salad with those in. The summer so there's another

(18:54):
variety we Have, called elvirenson which Is a. Spanish heirloom
i'm old and really beautiful ribs and it just when
you cut it and, slice it it just makes a
just a really pretty topper on a sandwich. Or something,
so yeah, we're always, you know we always have three
or five varieties. In pots we try to, you know
hoard close to the house to keep the deer away

(19:15):
from them and that we can enjoy a fresh tomato in.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
The summer do you ever have any of the cherry
tomatoes pop up out in the? Natural.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Garden, yes actually it's funny you say that because last
year we actually had the containers of the tomatoes and a little,
different spot AND so I was i was noticing that
we had one limb of the when we cleaned up
the pots that fell into. The garden And so i'm
curious some, of those, you know lake fruits might reappear

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in a different form.

Speaker 4 (19:44):
THIS year i.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Love IT.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Kelly d norris is with us his website kellydnors. Dot
com the Book Is Your. NATURAL garden i highly. RECOMMEND
it i want to thank you so much for spending
time with. Us today we really. Appreciate it great JOB
and i am very jealous of your. Writing abilities, oh.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Well that's very kind, of you and thanks for. THE
time i hope people find it.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
LOOK enjoyable i trust me they will find. It enjoyable
thank you. So, much sure, All RIGHT.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Kelly.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
D norris, and again the Website is kellydnorris. Dot com
the Book Is Your. Natural garden i'm. TELLING you i
know it, sounds weird but IT'S just i. READ it
i just sat down and read through the, whole thing
and it just carries you through and the philosophies and
the theories and thinking about it and seeing the pictures,
pretty COOL and i think it it makes you think

(20:32):
a little bit about the ways that we, garden today
and this is something you might want to take a
look at to maybe change some of your gardening methods
more toward a. NATURAL garden i love it, all right,
quick break we. Come back phone lines are open for
you at eight two TO one wtvn here on news
radio six Y.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Ten, wtvn yes we.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Are talking you're ardening here on news radio SIX. TEN
wtvn a two to ONE wtv in is. Our number jump.
ON board i have a tip you want. To share
we want to hear from folks that have a tip
that they want. To, Share ron here's SOMETHING that i.
Grew roun here's a TOMATO that i. Grew roun here
is a plant that didn't do well. At all that's
okay because we like to hear and learn. From that

(21:12):
so anytime you get a little tip that works, for
you share. With everybody we love hearing. Of it and as,
You know i've always said there's more than one way,
to Garden and i'll give you my way and a
couple other WAYS that i think, they're successful but there
are other ways. As well somebody did call in during
the break wants, To, know okay WHAT do i mean
by primo primo when it comes to the. Lawn primo

(21:35):
THE way i call primo for a premier garden or a,
premier lawn primo is mowing the lawn early in the
spring before it needs to be mowed on a. Regular
basis so, you know and are we at a. Premo,
yet yeah if you haven't started mowing your art on a,
regular basis your show there in that. Premo stage and

(21:56):
what it is is as your lawn starts to green
up in the, spring winter, early spring we still have
that brown on. The top we've got brown blades down in,
the turf a little debris is blown into, the lawn,
et cetera et ceter it's looking kind of, you know,
it's okay it's, greening up but doesn't look really. Good
yet but if you go out and let's say you

(22:18):
mow your lawn at three, inches high so set it
down to two and. A half just take it one
little notch down two and a half inches and go
out and mow the grass before it really needs to.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Be mowed so what you're doing is.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
You're going out and you're gonna knock off all, that
brown the brown tips off of the grass from. The
winter you're gonna kind of pick up, that debris chop
it up and distribute it back and you can throw
it right back into the turf and kind of even.
Everything up when you're all said and done and you
step out onto, the street look at your yard and
look at the. Neighbor's yards yours will typically look a

(22:52):
lot greener and a lot better because you knocked off
all the winter look of, the turf and maybe another
two weeks or so before you actually. Start mowing but
that's good because what happens is you cleaned it up.
By mowing it helps us stand those blades up in.
The air you get better air circulation that the soil

(23:13):
starts to warm up. For you your grass will actually
green up and look nicer earlier than your. Neighbors will
and it, does work, Trust me and it. Looks GREAT
and i guarantee when you're done, pre mowing you stand
back and, you, go oh, he's right this is. Pretty
cool so THAT'S what i call. A primo so you
go out and, mow it and your neighbors think to
your nuts because you're mowing your grass and it's not

(23:34):
really time to start mowing the, grass yet but it
will look really nice when you're. All finished then in
a couple of weeks it starts growing like, a weed
and then you got to mow every three or four or.
Five days but, that's. Spring right but that's what a,
primo is is to mow it before a couple of
weeks before it's really time to start mowing on a,
regular basis and get it off to a really.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Good start. All right back to the guarding, phone lines, We,
go joe. Good morning.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
That's ron question about. Blue grasses we blue, oak grasses i,
Should say and we've tried to call around we've carried
we've had them for quite, a while and there's a
couple of that might be dying out and we wanted to,
replace them and we've called around different nurseries and we
cannot find anyone that really. Carries them could you tell

(24:22):
me somebody that might carry the blue? Oak grasses.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
You didn't find Anybody in coumbus that's got. Blue oat
i'm trying to Think if i'm trying to think Of
Mill creek gardens who was. A supplier they're a grower
that would supply local garden centers, with, perennials grasses some of,
the grasses, some herbs whether or not they. Grow it
is there any way you can email Me and i'll
get back to YOU because. I can i go to

(24:50):
them and find out who who they would tell them
To Get ron Wilson at iHeartMedia.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Dot Com ron.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Wilson At iHeart media.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
Dot, com okay and and email ME and i will.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
FIND out i know a couple of nurses down further
down in the toward More, Towards Cincinnati warren county that
does grow That and i'll give you their, Addresses also
but let me check and See. In columbus i'll Check
with milkreek find out if they supply anyone around the
area with that. Particular One and i'll get back to you.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
This week, all right, Appreciate, it ron.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
Thank you oh you're more. Than welcome, quick break we.
Come back we'll jump back back into the guarding phone
lines at eight two TO one wtvn eight hundred and
six TO ten wtv in here on news radio six TO.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
TEN wtvn i don't know.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
If they ever mentioned the opposite of like her being,
a human him being, an animal her, being real him BEING.
A cartoono seems like the. Obvious, opposites yeah, Really no
but they don't, mention that. Do they now we're just
gonna pretend it's not. A thing.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
I love it talking to your heart here On news
radio SIX' ten wtv and, by the way before we,
GO any further i must. Make this announcement we kick
off our spring Tour Six' Ten. Gardening tour, next Saturday,
that's right next saturday we Will Be at The, Oakland
nursery in delaware so. Come and see us be there

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doing the show from ten. Until noon as usual stick
around afterwards as well and. Say hi to everybody always
a fun TIME and the well i have fun into
all the remost. That we go, to in the past
We've always at the delaware where one who knows. What's
going to happen but they used to. Bring, them white
castles yeah we used to have that in popcorn and
all kinds. Of stuff for breakfast it doesn't. Matter whatever

(26:38):
they do. We always, have fun of course the dinosaurs
in the tropical area, and all of that so. It's a, Good,
Time but, anyway oakland delaware location we're gonna be There
kicking off our spring Six, ten tour next saturday so come.
Out and say hello it's always always. A lot of
fun it's good seeing everybody. Out there as Well, So,
That's Next. Saturday oakland delaware location back to the gardening, Fun,

(27:04):
nights we, Go randy.

Speaker 3 (27:05):
Good morning, GOOD morning.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
Last year i have a lawn that's a mixture of,
blue grass and rye and the year before. Was a,
great lawn last year, DUE to this grouse i just.
DIDN'T do any watering i didn't do. Any Weeding or anything.
Now i've got weed some of the wheeds look like a.
Little small flower buds, But at any rate i'm trying

(27:29):
to figure out how to. Re establish MY lawn when
should i put it DOWN and what? SHOULD i put, Down.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I tell you randy probably what you're seeing right now
as far as the weeds are a lot of the winter,
weeds like chick weed, harry bittercrest of that and they're
starting to flower with that little little white flower very
flat to the ground and if you Went, through with
a yeah if you went, through with a rake you
can you can rake. Those out of there they literally.
Are very shallow rooted you. Can rake them out you

(27:57):
can also spray with a weed killer, if you want
to or if you have that many of them that,
you need to spread. You can do, that if you
do you have to read the label because there may
be a restriction as far as the amount of time
you have to wait until you put, Grass seed back
down so be. Sure and check that but do you have?

Speaker 3 (28:15):
Any grass at all or is it just kind of. Clumpy,
here and there no it's just.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Clumpy here and there. It's still the grass.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
It's.

Speaker 4 (28:22):
Just weeds throughout.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
YEP that's that's, what I would do is i'd go
through and try to physically remove as. Much as you
can if you, need a spot treat you Can Look
at fer to looms Weed free zone and furtolom's weed
free zone can, be used right now works at forty
five degrees and you can actually recede in. A two

(28:47):
week period it's one of the only ones on the
market that you. Can do that with so it's called
it's again it's it's either. FURLOUGH or high yield i,
always forget which, company but same company which label they,
have at the top but. It's weed free zone and
again you can reced in about ten days to two
weeks and. That would be perfect then you can come
back and, either broadcast you know rake all that, debris

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off of there broadcast seed to, fill that back in
or a slit or slice, seedar and, do that feed
it get, some fertilizer in there get that grass, eat
up and growing and then. Take it from there but
you need to get, rid of those, first break that
out and then come back in and see it. In about,
Two weeks, you KNOW timing wise you're i.

Speaker 3 (29:32):
Get on it.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
As soon as possible you don't want. To wait very
long you want to get that grass set up and
growing as quickly as you can before we get to
the warm. Part of the season what you might want
to consider. Somewhere down the road have you always been happy?

Speaker 3 (29:44):
With? The blue, grass, yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Okay y yeah they're typically the first two to shut
down when, it gets really, dry hot and dry and
the REASON that's the reason. I bring it up and
so the turf type tall fask you something you might
want to look at. Somewhere down the road they have
a tendency to hang in there a lot longer than the.
Bluegrass or the rise you can also you can actually

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do a turf type tall ask you with about a ten,
percent bluegrass in it but you want to keep it,
less than ten percent and you can do. That if
you want but you might want to look at those.
Somewhere down the road they are much more tolerant of the. Of,
the DROUGHT conditions.

Speaker 4 (30:25):
Okay now i did. AT late late fall i did
have someone come out through the air race. And then
the OVERSEATING then you think i still should do it?

Speaker 3 (30:37):
Now in This spring oh they oh.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
So, they overseated back no as, A, matter of fact
no if they, seed it for you now you've got
to wait and. See, what comes up uh and then
and then maybe come back and. Do a little overseating
but you may not have to.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
DO any.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
AT all i didn't i didn't know that they had seated. It,
in the, fall yep Just. Wait you're gonna now it's
just a matter of, getting rid of that getting rid
of the. Weeds that are there and the, thing of
it is you can't spray that with that grass seed
there or you will. Damage the grass seed so now
becomes a weighted out besides physical removal of getting those,

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weeds out of there because you can't, spray at, this
stage you know and not, harm, that.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
Grass, Seed gotcha unfortunately, yeah so just WAIT how long
should i wait to see before the grass seeds compared
to putting down, something for the weeds that's the.

Speaker 4 (31:32):
Go to overtake.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Our our soil temperatures this morning we're, at fifty four
degrees and when they start getting at fifty four to
fifty five, degrees and up consistently crab grass and Weed,
seed start to germany but. So does grass seed so
we're right on the cusp of starting to see. Grass
seed come up and we get a, few more, warm
days sunny days you're going to see.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
It, start to, pop okay, thank you all right.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Good talking with you and that's, he gets very confusing
and especially, with that because boy you got the grass
seed to.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Deal with and all but at this point.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
All he can do is just physically, rake that stuff
out physically, get rid of it let, the grass come
up see, what's going to happen and then. Fill in
as needed so. Good luck with it, it's a. Tough
one no, Doubt, Talk, with you. TERRY terry good morning.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
I am interested. In an orange tomato i've been growing. Pineapple,
and love them however my principal eater isn't crazy about
the blush and he, just, wants a low. Ascid flavorful
YELLOW tomato? What should i grow what?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Did?

Speaker 3 (32:42):
You, grow before?

Speaker 8 (32:44):
Pineapple, OKAY my latest.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah i like pineapple we have had the big throw
down on. The yellow orange tomato it's. Kind of a
combo it's a yellowish orange of either a mana ORANGE.

Speaker 6 (32:59):
Or a.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
M a n a, a Manaky orange. Orange, or kellogg's
breakfast yeah he.

Speaker 8 (33:13):
DIDN'T like the breakfast i grew that a. COUPLE of
years ago i don't know.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
What He's looking for.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
So i'm a.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
ORANGE it's really SWEET i mean that's i think THAT'S
the one thing i have found people. THAT love the flavor,
i love the flavor but some folks have said it's just,
too sweet for me and that maybe is. Maybe the
situation There there is. A burpie has one it's. Always

(33:40):
gotten good, Reviews Oh, my Gosh wellington, orange maybe chef's.
Orange something Like that look at burpie's cattle just. Go
ON their website But I, Think it's chef's orange chef's.
Choice something like that it's a Really good One and
i've tasted, i've Never grown it but i've tasted really.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Nice, flavor, to it okay.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
Great thanks so.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Much oh you're welcome. Good talking, WITH you and again i.
Love the, tomato thing you know, if you have tomatoes
if you have an orange one or a yellow one
that you grew last year Besides a Man Of orange
and kellogg's breakfast that did, really well for. You let,
us know you know it's always. Good to help out
you can only. Grow so many tomatoes, i've always said
that and there are so many on the. Market today

(34:22):
it's crazy you. Can't grow them ALL and every year,
i try, to grow you know one or two different
different tomatoes just. To try them, out and you know
it's good to, hear from Other People Like When tomato
dick tomato george would would call and give us the
new ones that they were trying for that year and,
share that with us and. Then EVERYBODY tries them oh.

(34:43):
I got one more i just popped IN my head
Because I, said to tomato george, If you're Still, listening
terry Lemon boy and lemon, boy is, a yellow very sweet,
a little smaller tomato not As big As a Man Of.
Orange or kellogg's breakfast but it Was one OF tomato
george's and i have grown. Now and it's great it's,
a good one too but it's more of. A medium

(35:04):
sized yellowish, it's a good Yellow, but called lemon boy.
And that's readily, available it's out there but highly recommended as.
Well from several people, So Try. THAT one lemon boy
i think if You Didn't, like the kellogg's breakfast He Won't.
Like the amana Orange, probably try lemon boy but, always
share with us let us know the ones.

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