Container gardening from start to success

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning everybody, Welcome back. I'm Ron Wilson, and you
are in the garden here on news radio six' TEN
wtvn talking. Yardening and you, know if you've listened to
our show over all these, years you know that the
two ways are my favorite ways of, Gardening container gardening
and of course raised bed. Guarding and my theory has always,
been you, know raise beds are the best way to. Grow,

(00:21):
now if you're thinking about, that maybe you kind of,
started maybe you already have, started but'd like to learn
more about. It not sure where to get the great
right infol because there's a lot out. THERE i have
found a book that is absolutely. Outstanding it takes you
from the beginning to the, end and not to the,
end but it gets the beginning to just keep right

(00:42):
on going because there's a lot of inspiration in this
book to keep you right on going as far as
raise bed. Guarding the name of. It the book is
Called Gardener Scott's guide To Raise Bed, gardening written By
Scott Wilson. Scott if you're not familiar with, him he's
better known As YouTube's Gardener. Scott he's A colorado based mesh.
Gardener he has a bazillion YouTube, subscribers all kinds of

(01:04):
videos out. There they're. Great you gotta watch him. Sometime
he's a RETIRED Usa Air force command pilot began teaching
gardening in early two thousands and has been educating gardeners ever.
Since as a matter of, fact he led to the
development of one hundred and five one hundred and five
raised garden beds and over twenty thousand square feet of
a garden space for The Galileo Garden project In Colorado, Springs.

(01:27):
Colorado they produced two thousand pounds of produce andy for
their school. District that's pretty darn. Cool he knows his raised,
beds and he's written all about, it and he's with
us this. Morning good morning, Gardener.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Scott good Morning. Ron how are you.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
Doing i'm doing. Great good to have you on the.
Show SO i gotta, ask of, course if you were
retired from The Air, force were you a gardener while
you were in The Air.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
FORCE i dabbled in, gardening you, KNOW i was flying a,
LOT i was gone a, LOT i was, busy AND
i tried to have some home. Gardens BUT i really
didn't know WHAT i was, Doing SO i can't really
SAY i did much. GARDENING i just kind of put
a few seeds in the ground and hoped that something

(02:13):
good would.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
Happen so then you finally you, retired you, Said, okay
NOW i can start to get into this a little bit.
More so what puts you in the direction of raised bed.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Gardening, WELL i live In, colorado And colorado, is at
least in my part of the, state has terrible, soil
terrible weather for much of the, year particularly the spring
and the. Fall and WHEN i started The Master gardener
program a little more than twenty years, AGO i discovered

(02:47):
that raised bed could actually be the solution to a
lot of the PROBLEMS i, had particularly when it comes
to extending the season a little bit and the shoulder,
seasons and of, worse making the best soil. POSSIBLE i
could put it all into a raised bed and have
more than just a seed in the ground and hope

(03:08):
it suddenly became a viable option in.

Speaker 1 (03:10):
Gardening, So, Columbus, ohio And colorado springs have one thing in,
common and that would be horrible. Soil, Yeah i'm.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Not that familiar With, columbus but if you've got bad,
soil then yes we have.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
That, well it's really not. Bad it's just that hard,
clay ohio, clay and it's you, know sometimes can be
a little difficult to work. With and and you, know
that's Why i've always pushed, that me personally pushed this
raised bed guarding and container, gardening because as you well,
know to have a really good in ground, garden it
takes a lot of years of working that garden every

(03:44):
year and adding compost and the organic, matter et center
ceter before you finally get it to where you think
it's pretty. Good as far as, planting and we're obviously
doing the raised bed, gardening it's pretty much instant.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Exactly. Yeah and my soil tends to be more on
the sandy, side and so whether it's clay or, sand
the different ends of the, spectrum it takes a lot
of time to improve. Soil and ALL i have to
do is just put a good soil mix into my.

(04:18):
BEDS i like to make my own, mixes So i'll
actually use some of my native, soil the terrible soil
THAT i have with very low content of organic matter
and low in. Nutrients but ONCE i start adding composts
and all the other organic, INGREDIENTS i can build soil
without much effort and pretty quick. Time IF i want

(04:42):
to jump start, it of COURSE i can buy good
soil in, bulk And i've done that before, when like you,
mentioned one hundred and five, beds we bought fulk soil
delivered by the dump truck load to fill those beds
and we were growing in about have to be five
beds within the first. Month.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Wow talking With Scott. Wilson he is YouTube's Gardener, scott
and he has written a great. Book it's Called The
Gardener Scott's guide To Raised Bed, gardening and it REALLY i,
mean the pictures are. Outstanding you well, written and of
course the, pictures the illustrations all the way through and
what you cover is everything from the beginning to just

(05:24):
keep you right on going. Forever i'll tell you what
the picture that's on the front cover. HERE i know
you had told me that this was not your particular,
garden one that you, visited but that just buying the,
book that picture on the front for inspiration for a
raised bed garden is worth the price of the.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Book hell, well thanks for. That AND i tried to
put the book together that. Way most of the pictures
are from my, garden, right so you can see even
in a challenging environment LIKE i had In, colorado you
can still have a beautiful garden in raised. Beds BUT
i wanted to have that motivation factor to put pretty

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gardens that are all over the. Country i've traveled quite
a bit and taking pictures of raised beds WHEREVER i,
go and people can realize that it's not just an
ugly wooden box in their. Garden it can actually be
a really attractive part of your.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Landscape, well you, know there's so many different materials that
you can used for raised beds, today it's. Crazy and
of course you address pretty much all of those in,
here you, know as you, look and it could be
down as dirty and down and dirty as just using
the two x six is two by, eights whether they're
treated or non, treated to the metal, boxes to using

(06:38):
blocks and bricks and. Stone do you have a favorite
of all those or one that performs better than the, Others.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
And so it depends on the type of. Gardener so for,
me in my vegetable, garden the ones that perform best
are just those simple wooden. Beds they're high. BEDS i
like the wood in my garden Because i'm getting to
a certain age WHERE i like to take it easy
and relax my, back AND i can do that by

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sitting on the side of a good solid wooden raise.
Bed and so whether it comes to the sowing of
the seeds or pulling little weeds, out or pinning the,
plants whatever the task happens to, BE i can do
that just sitting on the side of my. Bed so
that tends to be the ONE i do most in

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my garden as far as the vegetable gardens are. Concerned
BUT i love all types of race. Beds, now the
More i've looked into it and the More i've learned about,
it you almost can't go wrong with any type of
race pin.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Right because you are doing that. Now i've been, curious
and you address And i'm glad you did. This you
address the use of today's treated lumber in these raised,
beds and obviously it's not an issue. Anymore you know they're.
Safe you can use. Those you can also use just
untreated if you. Want you can treat it yourself and
then treat the what the. Outside you've got all those.

(08:01):
Options you, ALSO i, see of course using the metal in.
Here And i've always wondered AND i have not used
the metal for raised. Beds have you can you tell
or see a fluctuation in soil temperatures based on what
the walls are built. From not.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Really, uh if you're going to compare beds of similar,
sizes then you're really not going to see any difference
in the heat that the material that surrounds the bed
is going to. Generate the only issue That i've seen
with the metal raised beds is if they're, unpainted and

(08:39):
So i've got some galvanized steel. Beds they reflect the
sun quite a, bit, actually and so the metal doesn't
it doesn't affect the soil inside the, bed but that
reflective radiation actually does warm up the soil outside the.
Bed so you can kind of create a little micro

(09:00):
climate outside some of those metal beds that you might
not be able to do someplace.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Else interesting talking with the YouTube's Gardener scott his new,
Book guide To Raise Bed gardening By Scott. Wilson it's absolutely.
Outstanding let's take a, break we come. BACK i got
a lot more questions including his special mix as far
as what does he use inside those extending the, season
and a whole lot more here on News radio six'
TO ten Wtvn YouTube's gardener scott is with us this

(09:29):
Morning At. Scott wilson he's got a new book Out
Called Gardener scott's Guide To Raise, bed gardening and it is,
absolutely outstanding lots of. Great inspiration, and here as a matter,
of fact you even address the spiral, herb Garden which
i've seen a lot of people attempt and not do
a very. Good job you got into keyhole GARDENING and
i think that's one of, the cool really cool way

(09:52):
to do raise. Bed, gardening.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah both the herb spiral and the keyhole gardening show
that it doesn't have to be that BOX like i was.
Talking about you can, be creative and the keyhole garden
is something that it's, JUST starting, i think to become
one of those things that gardeners, think about particularly older

(10:17):
gardeners who might have some mobility issues or gardeners who have.
Limited space you basically just have, an entrance hence the
idea of you put a key into a lock and
then all of the bread the beds surround that little,
entrance path so you can actually have a lot growing

(10:39):
in a relatively small footprint and because you're standing in
the middle, of it you can lean against, the beds
you can sit against. The beds you can really use
it if you have any type of physical disability that
might require some of that. Extra, stability yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Let me ask, you this why for, My aid like,
you know we always talking about raised, bed gardening why
FOUR by i get the four feet as far as
reaching in from the sides and making, it easier and,
you know having that bench on the top of the
sides of the thing IS at I think i, must
have especially for us, more mature maturing gardeners to sit

(11:18):
down and save the knees in. The back why the?
EIGHT feet, i mean could they go longer if they?
WANTED to, i mean you look and you see they're
all eight.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Feet, long yeah you can have a bed of any size.
You want the galvinized STEEL beds i have are almost
twenty five. Feet. Long okay the reason for four x
eight is. Quite simply when you go to one of
the big box garden centers and buy, some lumber it

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comes in eight, foot lengths and if you cut one
of those eight foot boards, in half you now have
two Four foot and that's how you build the easiest
raised bed of all is you just buy, three boards
cut one of them, in half nail or screw, them
together and now you have a four by. Eight beds,
so honestly that's where it. Came from is just the

(12:08):
standard dimension of the lumber that most of us have.
Access to and do.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
You find scott that most folks like with. A fishpond,
you know you want, a fishpond you put it in
and you wish it was ten. Times bigger once, you're done,
you know you build one or two these four by
eight and you wind up building. A dozen, oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah absolutely i'd always, encourage gardeners particularly if they're new
to raise, bed gardening to just start with one or
two and you'll. Be hooked and so that's exactly, what
happens is you start and then. You ADD and i still.
Do that i'm lucky enough to have enough space in

(12:49):
my backyard that EVERY year i am adding one to three.
New beds sometimes they're the four by, eight beds sometimes
they're a custom shaped, stone bed sometimes they're the twenty
five foot long. Steel Beds but i'm. Constantly ADDING and
i think that is one of the factors that gardener

(13:12):
should consider when they look into raised, bed gardening is
that it is easy, to expand and to expand. Very
creatively and of.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
Course when we're talking about raised, bed gardening we're not
what it isn't. Just vegetables we're talking just to anything
that grows in the ground can be grown in a
raised bed for the. Most part, oh.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Yeah ABSOLUTELY so i have, Fruit bushes i've got perennial
vegetables that are growing in. RAISED beds i have a
large area that's actually got some fruit trees growing. In
it the key factor when trying to decide what kind
of bed and what kind of plants is anticipating the

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mature size of. The plant and so you can grow
trees in, raised beds but they need to be big
enough at the tree when, it grows it's not going
to break the bed as the rooms grow. Beyond IT
but i go To The Denver botanic garden is the

(14:15):
closest big public garden, near me and they have huge
areas in the botanic gardens that are growing trees and major,
plant structures and all of that's being done in, raised
beds big stone raised. BEDS typically i.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Love it now you talk a lot about we talked
earlier about the different, you offer different mixes because folks
are always, asking, me well you, know WHAT and i
have a particular RATIO that, i like but you throw yours.
Out there You've Got mel Bartholomew's From Square. Foot gardener
You've Got, joe lample the gardener that we see a
LOT on tv, as well his. Particular RECIPE and i

(14:52):
like how you go through and talk about the different
amendments that you will put in with that. Soil biochart
i'm STILL not i haven't used a lot of. Biochar
yet are you using that more? And more you seeing
good results?

Speaker 2 (15:05):
With, That yeah i've been using biochar for about fifteen
years now and it does make. A difference the thing
about biochar is it is a great soil amendment and it.
Never decomposes so it's one of those type of things
you can add to your soil once and continue to

(15:28):
get the benefits. From it SO as i build new
beds and then fill, Those beds i'll OFTEN if i
have it available with. The biochart and biochar is basically
just a very small piece of carbon that has lots
of air openings, in it and those little openings end up.

(15:48):
Being repositories for the, soil microbes and for nutrients and.
For water so it just absorbs and holds a lot
of those goods things that, soil needs and it never.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
Breaks Down, scott wilson this was us. This morning you
may recognize him as YouTube's gardener scott and he's got
a book out that's. Absolutely Outstanding It's Gardener scott's Gut
To Raise. Bed gardening you will absolutely. Love it AND like,
i said the picture on the front great. Inspiration there
it's worth the price of the book just to see that.
Picture alone but you will learn so much reading through.

(16:23):
This book trying to think it's a couple. OTHER things
i was going to, Hit you oh, YOU know i
like the way you came through with trellising that you're
doing more vertical gardening upright gardening using, the cow the
cow fencing and things. Like that that's another great thing
that's easy to do when it comes to raise. Bed. Gardening.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Oh absolutely the system for having beds that are all the,
same size like in a vegetable garden makes it really easy.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
TO do.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
Trelli THING so i love my cattle panel trelliss they're all.
PRE cut i have other types of as well that are,
all presized and from year TO year i can just
pull them out of my shed and just pop them
into any bed and then grow. The plant so, you
Know if i'm rotating the crops Or if i'm trying,

(17:13):
SOMETHING new i can use the trellis IS that i
build in any of the beds for years, after that
and it just makes it so easy when it comes
to planning each individual bed That whether i'm growing vertically,
OR horizontally i have all the pieces in place to
make it. MOST efficient i.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Love.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
It now do you do try to do a crop
rotation when you're growing vegetables and your, raised beds you
try to mix it up and take it from one bed.
TO another.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I. Really don't for the, most part my soil is very.
HEALTHY now i don't have a depletion, of nutrients which
is one of the primary reasons that people will rotate.
Their crops and so The reason i'll be trying different
crops IS because i want to experiments or grow SOMETHING
that i haven't. Grown before And so i'll take a

(18:04):
bed that might have been squashed the previous year and
DECIDE that i want an extra bed of super hot
peppers the, next year and so that's that's kind of
what my rotation is is not so much because of,
the soil BUT because i just want to keep trying.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
NEW things i love it Talking with. Scott Again gardener scott.
This book he'll walk you through every stage from planning
to designing to building the soil prep grow in your,
dream garden the whole. Nine yards it. Is Outstanding It's
Gardener scott's Guide To Raise bed Gardening By. Scott wilson.
GREAT book i have one last question for you before.
We Go big Tomato town Here, In. Columbus ohio we

(18:43):
always have competitions and. Tomato throwdowns what's the best? Flavored
tomato who does the? Blest job, all right so you're
a big, vegetable grower do you YouTube's gardener scott have
a favorite tomato of? All tomatoes.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
My favorite tomato of all tomatoes is. Black crim it
does so well In my. Colorado climate it is almost
always the first larger tomato, to fruit and it can
survive some cooling conditions and it. Tastes amazing never have any.

(19:21):
Disease issues black crim is always. MY favorite i.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Love, it hey thanks for spending time with us. This
morning love. The book, and again if you're interested in raise,
bed gardening maybe you're already. GETTING started i want to
learn more, about it be better. At it this is
a good one. For You Gardner scott's Guide To Raise
bed Gardening By. Scott wilson and be sure and check
out all of his YouTube videos. As well and it's
of course it's a go to YouTube and It's At

(19:47):
scott Will At gardner scott and check. Them, OUT hey
i really appreciate the time with us, this morning and appreciate,
the book and thank you, So.

Speaker 2 (19:56):
Much, Thank. YOU ron i appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (19:59):
Right take and it is an absolutely great, OF course
i couldn't wait to read IT because i love raised.
Bed gardening but this one he's. Got it there's a
very very very nice job and black krim is his
favorite tomato of. All tomatoes there, you go, quick break we.
Come back we will open the phone lines back up

(20:19):
to you at eight two TO, one wtvn eight hundred
and six TO ten wtvn here On news radio SIX.
TEN wtvn i love books. LIKE this i just sit
and look at. THE pictures i read the, book obviously and,
great information but to look at the pictures IN here
i get so much great inspiration as far AS now
i want to tear out some of the race beds

(20:40):
and change them around and mix them up and do
something a little. Bit different but great information Against Gardener
scott's Guide To raise. Bed gardening it will inspire you
to get on he addresses. In here google culture if
you've never done. Hoogle culture it's from way back when
they used to take trees and stuff that they would
cut down, into depressions lay him down in that all

(21:01):
the branches in all and then covered over with soil
and actually grow on. The top and as it as
the debris down below, broke down it added organic matter
back to the soil and you filled up the depression and. All,
that well now taking those, raised beds, building them then
going in at the bottom and putting small sticks and
branches and things that you have from the garden that

(21:21):
you're not going, to compost put them in the bottom
and then put your soil on top. Of it let
it break down over the years and, you know and
it has organic matter back to. Your soil even does
that in the race beds. As well but again, Great
Book Gardner scott's Guide To Raised bed Gardening By. Scott
wilson his videos are. Very, good also be sure check.
Him out back To The gardening. Fund lines we, Shall,
go bob, Good, morning, YES sir.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
I get my wife uncle got some seed off of
a farmer Down in kentucky eighty years ago and they're
they're the BIGGEST thing i, ever seen and the leave
on the plants or bigger than, your hand and they're
tall and heavy duty and. Everything else but the tomatoes

(22:08):
don't have a whole lot of seed, in THEM and.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
I think they're.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Pretty good, BUT us i was thinking maybe you would
be Interested in i'm that thing that you have the
competition on the tomatoes, or, whatever.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
Right but uh for for the. Best, tasting.

Speaker 4 (22:26):
Yeah that would.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
Be good. Yeah yeah so she so this is this
is an heirloom tomato that has been. Passed along she
from families or her family got it that eighty. Years
ago and is it a. Big tomato it's a big
it's a. Big. Tomato, Interesting, yeah well when we get

(22:50):
when we get into the season and they and they start,
to produce do me. A favor let's get, in touch
send me. Some pictures i'd love to, see it and
then we'll see if we can get in touch, and
uh maybe change some seeds at the end of the
year and we'll talk about growing them for twenty. Twenty
Six but i'd love to give it. A shot, but
yeah keep keep me in formed.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
With them i've got some SEED now i could, send
you uh.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
If you if you'd, like to. That's fine I'M pretty,
i am to be honest, with you pretty well booked
up as far as what we're going to grow for.
This year and THAT'S why i SAY that i put
it on my calendar to make sure we leave an
open spot for the ones that you're. Gonna send let's
just do it that way And then i'll get with
you at the end of. The season but in, the
meantime as you're growing them and uh and you, you

(23:35):
know start to have the, tomato produced send me a
couple of shots. Of it we'll stay in touch of it,
that way and who knows me even get the hookups
and try a couple, of them and then you can
try the seeds and we'll go. From there if he
has a big that's called like a, potato, leaf right
looks kind of like a potato. Big, potato yeah some

(23:57):
of those varieties. Are outstanding those are those varieties and
have those huge leaves like that are always tough and
durable and usually pretty good producers. As well, But yeah
i'd be more than interested to, do it but let's
do it at the end of this season rather than. Right,
now okay, all right, All, right bob thanks and keep.

(24:17):
Me INFORMED and i want to see this tomato as you're,
growing it AND like, i said maybe we'll touch up
somewhere and we can taste it. As well that's always
fun to throw the big. Throw down and you may
remember several years ago it Was The kellogg's breakfast Versus
a Man of orange and had the big throw down
and two or three places we did some taste testing

(24:37):
and it's a lot. Of fun and it's fun hearing
from everybody to throw out their. Favorite tomato and there's
so many tomatoes available in the, market today is, absolutely
crazy but, their favorite best, tasting tomato and everybody's got their,
own favorite and it's always fun to hear, from everybody
especially when you talk to these folks who specialize in
raised bed gardening or whatever it. May be so what's your?

(24:57):
Favorite tomato always typically have something a little bit DIFFERENT
and i love sharing that. With everybody so hopefully NEXT
year i can try to grow this the heirloom that
he's been growing. As WELL so i, Appreciate that bob very.
Very much, another break we come back. Has school you're coming.
Up next phone lines are open for you at eight
two TO one wtvn here on news radio SIX' ten wtvn.

(25:20):
Twenty nine degrees that'll keep the soil temperatures down their
for us for another. Week, or so wow we'll. Get
through it just keep the reins back. A little bit we'll.
Get through. It trust me we got a long. Way
to go back to the. Gardening phone lines, we go, heschol.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Good morning, Good worrying ron thank.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
YOU my pleasure.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I got questions. About my penis i've got, four clumslaw
penies two purple, and two white and a couple OF
years ago i had another small clump come up, beside
of them AND last spring i had the previous yellow

(26:01):
bright yellow pine at. EIGHT of them i just WONDER
how how.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I get yellow, what happens is obviously those are coming,
up from. Seed all right so, when they're done when,
they're done flowering then that you're letting that head stay
on there and. It, forms seeds well the kicker is there, when,
they're pollinated uh and those. Seeds are formed it. Could
be anything, in other words they don't come. True to

(26:31):
seeds so when those, seed heads drop somewhere, in the
parenting in the genes of one of the other two was.
A yellow parent so, Somewhere, in that yeah that, Plant
plant breeding so that came forth in that particular seed,
that came up and therefore you got this yellow and

(26:52):
it's always fun like a. Perennial high biscuits they're they're really. Good,
about that also you, get you know, one particular color
but then all of a sudden you see him. Starting
to turn there's a pink one and there's a little
different color over there coming up from seed because that's part.
Of their heritage so they don't come. True to seeds
so that's why you get. The, yellow one.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Yeah i'n't had them for, about forty, years and yeah
that's HIS first TIME i ever i had an offshoot.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
To, Come up, WELL i'm, curious i mean does anybody
in the? Neighborhood? Have, paeonies, No, yeah interesting yeah it's
well maybe they've.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
Had some purple there is one couple miles away that has. A,
purple white okay.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Well, they're yellow yeah but somewhere in the plant heritage
there's a yellow, parent in there and so that gene
has stepped up in, that particular seed and that's how
you get. The different color plants, can't, change colors uh
but the seeds can depending on what it is u
through through through the heritage. In the back so that's

(27:56):
got to be the explanation unless a neighbor's playing a
joke on and planted a yellow.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
One, FOR you yeah i. Don't think so they keep
ANSWERING me how, i GET yellowed and i, couldn't ANSWER
them so i. Figured, you, would.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
Well now now when, you get, that you know if
you get that clump, pretty good size you'll have to
dig that up and divide that up and. Share, with people.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah very, Good, all right okay, well all.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Right that's go good. Talking to you. Appreciate the, call
and yeah sometimes that's. That, does happen now the question
would be if it sticks, with the yellow does you
know does it will revert and do other colors? WITHIN
that's gene, i don't, know but yeah that's typically, what,
will happen though you get that parentings. Back in there
it's like, a hybrid tomato and it's, two parents obviously

(28:47):
and you save the seeds, from a hybrid you're not
really sure what. You're gonna, get you know it's one or. The,
other parent typically that's why we don't save hybrid. Seeds,
too often hey before we get to the top of,
THE hour here i had a couple good insect things to,
bring up today ONE of which i had this couple
of emails, from folks saying we heard on the news

(29:08):
that twenty twenty five there will be another emergence Of,
cicadas in ohio, the periodical cicadas, By the way, and You,
know as columbus are we involved? With that whatsoever and.
We are not and it's All. In southern ohio this.
Is brood fourteen it's a seventeen year brood and. It's

(29:30):
coming out there's about two four to six eight about
ten Counties In, Southern, Ohio, Butler, Warren, Clinton, Claremont Highland
adams ross pike right. Across the right it's kind of following.
Along the river there about ten different Counties in southern
ohio that will. Experience brood fourteen this spring and as

(29:54):
Usually around mid may as when they come out and will,
last you know four to six. Weeks after that Fortunately in,
the COLUMBUS area as i look at the periodical Cicada,
broods in ohio our next one is not until the
seventeen Year brood of brewed five is, twenty thirty three,

(30:16):
twenty thirty three and that'll be on. The eastern side
and then in, twenty thirty eight seventeen year brood ten,
will join us and that pretty much encompas as All of.
The columbus area and that's. A brew ten but it's,
twenty thirty eight so we have a few years before
we get to see the next huge brood of cicadas in. Our,

(30:39):
particular area now you're always going to have the, dog
day cicadas so you know those will be. Here every
year not. A big issue as a, matter of fact
it's fun to listen to them, singing the background the
mails and do. All of that but looking at, the
chart here looking, at the map we're not gonna see
anything In the Central ohio until and it's funny, these
Two broods it's Brewed five, and brewed ten they're both

(31:01):
seventeen year cicadas. Five years Apart they split ohio. Literally
in half the TWENTY twenty, three i mean if you
drew a line right down The, middle of ohio straight
down from, north to south the eastern side gets, twenty
thirty three the western side gets. Twenty thirty eight columbus
kind of right there, on the line a little bit

(31:24):
more toward the twenty, thirty eight, brood but, anyway so
yep you. Can rest easy the big brood This year
in Ohio, is southern ohio pretty Much Along the Ohio
river from cincinnati all the way down to the Bottom.
Corner of, ohio so yep we won't have to worry About.
That in columbus, Also last YEAR joe and i talked

(31:47):
a Lot about the ohio box tree moth that has Been.
Discovered in ohio it's been Now. Declared in pennsylvania we're
seen in a Couple, Counties. In michigan canada this is a,
a caterpillar, larvae the larvae and then it turns. Into
a moth, not a caterpillar. BUT the larvae i guess
you called it a caterpillar. At one point but they

(32:09):
feed on boxwood and they can really do A. Number,
on boxwood well THEY showed up i believe it was
last Year in southern ohio Down in the cincinnati area and.
Has been reported well now it's and then they quarantine
the counties. That it's IN it's now i think they've

(32:29):
increase it to five or six counties In south western
ohio where the box tree moth. Has been detected and
we were putting the word out because again it's Like
The agent longhorn beetle and once when back when We
had the emerald ash for trying to make sure folks are,
aware of it what, to look for and if, you

(32:51):
see it obviously to report it because this is one
again we're trying to, keep tabs on going to try
to get this one. Out of here but It's called
the ohio Box tree moth quarantine. Has been expanded you
can go to THE beagle bygl dotsu dot eedu and learn.
More about it they just as a, Matter of fact
joe just put a two reports out within the last month.

(33:16):
And a half one is an update on. What they
do secondly as an update on the. Quarantine being expanded
but we want everybody to know what, it looks like what.
It can, do to boxwood so you can, watch, for
it okay but it's called box TREEMTH and so i
need you to learn. More about It speaking of, asian
longhorn beetle got a report Out Of the claremont county

(33:38):
where that thing has been there working To eradicate that.
Asian longhorn Beetle, IT'S been wow i don't have them
dates in, front of me but, probably seven, years eight
years ten years that they've been working on eradicating That
From the. Claremont county area as, of last week they
just opened up five point two square miles of areas

(34:00):
that has now been totally Eradicated from the. Asian longhorn
beetle that's a thumbs UP to the ODA and the
usda working together to get rid of those and again it's.
A total, eradication you know it's going to make sure
they're all gone in. That particular area. So that's good
so every so often they release another area that's eradicated
and another area it's eradicated and move. On from there so.

(34:22):
Great news there but do go ONLINE bygl dot osu
dot eu and learn more about that box. Tree moth
moth if you, HAVE box woods i need you to keep.
Watching for it just if it, does show up you
need to report it and then you'll tell you how
to take. Care of it and you've got to do
it quickly because they can just devastate. Your box wood thanks,
to our callers, Thanks our Sponsors Thanks, to la, plarti

(34:43):
our Producer, because without ella none of the. Stuff Would,
happen so ella thank you so much for all. That
you do now do yourself a. Favor out there plant
a tree or, Two or three keep planting, those native,
plants native selections get the kids and dogs, of aolved
guardening and, by all means make this the absolute best weekend.
Of your life see you