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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you're in
the garden here on his radio six' TEN wtv and
talking about yarding on This easter. Weekend and AS i,
promised it's time to bring him a good buddy. Back
he is a certified master. Arborist and tell you, what
he's a registered consulting all arbist AND i say board
certified master. Arborist it takes a lot to get to that.
(00:23):
Level he's at the graduate of The Ohouse State. University
and he's also very good at. Meteorology he knows. Weather
it's his, hobby but he knows it more than ANYBODY i.
Know AND i have questions about the, WEATHER i go
to my Friend ron. Rothis his website is arbordoctor dot.
Com you can learn all about trees and plants and
(00:44):
plant health as well as the weather as well at
arbordoctor dot. Com and he is with us this. Morning good, morning,
Sir good.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Morning how are?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
YOU i am absolutely. Wonderful you've got to be excited
thinking about The easter bunny coming. Tonight absolutely what will
be in the uh what would be in the arbor doctor's?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Basket the arbor doctor's. Basket The easter bunny will be
bringing me dates.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
A?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Date no?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Dates?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh? Dates? Oh multiple? Dates? Wow, yes go arbor.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Doc i've been working with a nutritionist nutrition with the
added Down, Louisville kentucky and uh and dates are in
my diet and. Wonderful and you take a couple of
little pecan, pieces you take the pit out of the,
date you put some little pecom pieces in. There, yes
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it's just like pecan.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Pie it's.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wonderful does.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It are you allowed to take the dates and then
wrap them in bacon and then broil?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Them bacon would?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Work?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes have you ever had a date wrapped or a
fig date or fig wrapped?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Him?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
UNBELIEVABLE i have, not but given me ideas that everything
goes with, bacon, right, absolutely, yes right talking With.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ron rothis of, course he is our, arborist certified arbust
also our good friend when it comes to talking about the.
Weather let's talk about the weather. First you, know we
are finally starting to see things warm. Up soil temperatures
are just jumping out of the ground starting to warm
up as. Well we're now getting into that crucial period
where we're starting to see our potential frost free dates
(02:27):
coming up here, shortly which means your chances are thirty
or forty percent less or you know whatever either way
of having a frost after. That but you, know now
we start thinking about those tender annuals and vegetables and
protecting the tender foliage and all that kind of. Stuff
as we look out or as you look out over
the next three, weeks maybe four, weeks if you can
look that far, out which is probably our biggest planting
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time for the spring. Season what are you seeing out?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
There, Well i'm breaking weather. News there's currently a severe
thunderstorm mornings for Central, morrow Southern Crawford county's north Of,
columbus so winds up to sixty five miles an hour
in penny size. Hail but beyond that, much there you.
Go but beyond, that it was looking quite warm for
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the next two weeks at, least temperatures of what they're
going to be averaging quite warm over most of the
country except for extreme southwest part of the. Country so
we're looking good to. Go it does look like we
could cool down some after, that but you're getting into
almost you, know the second and third week Of may
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at that, point and with each week that we proceed
in the, year the average temperatures go. Up so if
you're if the cold front comes through and your ten
degrees below, average you, know In january that could be bitter,
cold but in the middle Of may that may still
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be well above. Freezing so's looking pretty good at this.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Point so, yeah AND i know you can't go on
a limb and, say you, KNOW i think we're going
to be good at with our frost free. Dates but
from what you're kind of getting in, general What i'm
getting from, here What i'm hearing here is that there's
a real good chance we could be kind of in the.
Clear but obviously you want to watch. This if you're
planning tender, plants you're going to still want to watch
this every, day every other, day just to see where we.
(04:20):
Are but sounds like you're saying to me right, now
we're looking pretty darn.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Good, well if anybody's going to go out on a,
limb you would think it would be an.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Ourburst but that's WHY i said it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Exactly but, uh, YEAH i, MEAN i think that the
chances look pretty good at this point that we're going you,
know we're going to skate through without another. FREEZE i
can't say one hundred, percent BUT i mean certainly with
well about normal temperatures over the next two, weeks it's
looking pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Good, well it's just like that frost free. DATE i,
mean that's if you look at the way they calculate.
That and it used to be it was at the
fifty percent. Mark your chances were fifty percent or. Less
NOW i think when they when you go to the
charts and they post, them it's based on thirty percent
or less your. Chances and believe it or. Not AND
i know a lot of folks don't like to hear,
this but you, know for for southern through Central, ohio
(05:14):
it's Now april, thirtieth which is you, know unheard of
because these were Always may. Fifteenth everybody put that one,
down but, Yeah april. Thirtieth so but AS i look
back over the last two or three years in that
section of the of the, STATE i can't remember any
any later frosts that were of any. SIGNIFICANCE i do
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know in Northeastern ohio they had a, couple but OTHERWISE
i can't really think of. That so we, may you,
know it sounds, good so putting all that together and
listening to what you have to, say we may be
good to go over the next two to three. Weeks
so you know we're gonna hold you.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That by the, Way, YEAH i mean within the past ten,
years there's been a hard phrase On Mother's day. Weekend
it's probably been eight or ten years. Ago oh, yeah
well it has, Happened oh, sure but but, YEAH i
mean right now it's looking pretty, good in, fact with
temperatures averaging.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well above normal.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Or well above.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
AVERAGE i think the you, know the soil temperatures that
you always talk, about are going to continue to warm,
up and you, know we're going to be pretty good
to go if we get a little bit more of.
THAT i, mean, obviously you, know it's been cold within
the past, week so it's going to take a little
while for the soil temperatures to really consistently get where
we need them to. Be BUT i, mean the night
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time lows in the forecast are pretty good for the foreseeable.
Future so, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Joe AND i were looking at those earlier today and
it was amazing because yesterday was in the low, fifties upper,
forties and to this morning already it's in the upper
fifties and cool guy's going to hit lower. Sixties so
it's amazing how quickly it can rebound with a warm
day and a warm night combined back to, back how
quickly that does. Change talking With Ron roethis he is
our hobby, heterologists of, course our certified master arbust as.
(07:03):
Well his website is arbordoctor dot, com and he is
darn good at predicting that. Weather and he's saying looks
pretty good over the next two weeks or, So so
keep that in mind as we continue to move. Through,
obviously everybody's full bore as far as planting trees and
shrubs and evergreens and things like, that and this cool
season crops as. Well, Personally i'd probably give it another
couple of weeks BEFORE i do any of the tender.
Annuals but looking pretty good from what he's saying right.
(07:27):
Now let's take a quick. Break we come back more With.
Ron we're gonna talk about. Trees what's going on with
trees right? Now can we be, pruning, feeding? Spraying what
do we need to be? Doing you'll let us know
here on news radio six to TEN. Wtvn, girl you,
real they got? Me now you got. ME i don't
know What i'm. Doing, yeah talking to you yarding here
(07:49):
on news radio six ten AT wtv in This easter.
Weekend and my good buddy ron rothis is with us this.
Morning he is our registered consulting, ARBIST i, say boards
certified master, arbist and of course amateur medor lots as
well meteorologists as. Well Next friday is your big, day,
Man Arbor.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Day that's when all the ships come sailing into the.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Arbor right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Funny and he's a stand up comedian by the, way so.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
There he that's a line FROM i think it Was
sally that said that on The Charlie Brown Arbor day,
special which aired throughout my. Childhood for some, reason doesn't
get aired. Anymore but that was a cute little show
that Promoted Arbor day and tree, planting and it was
(08:36):
REALLY i look forward to seeing that every, year just
like all the Other peanuts. Specials so kind of miss.
It WISH i bring it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
BACK i think you're gonna, say like all the Other
Arbor DAY tv, Specials i'm, like, WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Don't remember Any, yeah all the Other Arbor DAY tv
specials that we enjoy as we sit.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Around it's unfortunate that we don't and it's unfortunate that
they don't play that. ANYMORE i was never A Charlie brown,
fan but, uh you, know it is unfortunate they don't
do that to try to promote a little bit, more
especially for the. Kids but, yeah It's Arbor.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Day ye wait, wait, wait you're not A Charlie brown.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Fan, sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This might change. Everything i'll have to reconsider whether OR
i don want to appear on your show.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
ANYMORE i got. It, HEY i do watch The Charlie Christmas,
special all. RIGHT i still watch that good. SOUNDTRACK i
think Like christmas. Music AS i just, said it's a
great soundtrack and that's WHY i watch. It talking With
ron Rothis Arbor day is Next. Friday so, obviously once
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you get out and plant a tree or two or,
three and of course he's out, there it's a job
security for you as well for us to get out
and plant. Trees so what what what should we be
doing right now or what are you doing right now
when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Trees, WELL i, mean certainly planting trees is something that
could be done this time of the. Year one thing
THAT i don't think people necessarily think about but is pruning.
Trees this is a great time in the year to
do that for most. Trees the exception would be oak
trees because of a disease called oak, wilt and we
(10:11):
don't want to be printing or at least we want
to be very cautious about pruning oak trees From march
through through Say.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
October so you cut that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Off about. THAT i have folks that ask sometimes that
you cut that off sometime In. March, yes, okay well,
BASED i MEAN i not not until you don't keep
going until the bud start to. Break you you're earlier
on in the spring.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Season, WELL i mean it's going to vary from year to.
YEAR i mean the oak buds are going to break
sometimes In. March sometimes it's going to be In. APRIL
i mean this year has been a little bit. Later
some years it's been a little bit. Earlier so, YEAH
i Mean march is a good rule of. THUMB i
mean in a, cold cooler year like this, year when
it's when the bud break has been a little bit,
(10:54):
later you, know Early april might be might be, okay
but but, yeah so SO i mean that that would
be an exception on the printing. Rule but otherwise research
is showing that they've done, research they've, pruned made printing
cuts at various times of the, year and they just
see better wound closure on most tempera trees when they're
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pruned in the in the springtime because you have a
lot of activity going on that the tree is putting
on that new ring of growth in the, springtime and
that seems to facilitate the wound wood formation as, well
so it's a good time to do. That and related
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to pruning is you, know whether you're planting a new
tree or you have a tree that you've planted in the,
past you really want to look at that tree and
see what the structure of the tree. Is AND i
don't just mean the outline of the. TREE i mean
the branching, structure because what you really want is essentially
a central leader that get central trunk that goes all
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the way up through the canopy of the tree to
the top and a lot of and it doesn't have
to be straight all the. Way many times it. Isn't
but what you want to do is kind of step,
back look at the tree and kind of follow from
the trunk and find some sort of a leader or
branching structure that kind of goes right up through the
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middle of the. Tree it can be a little bit,
arbitrary but you want to pick something that really makes
up a central, leader and in anything that's competing with
that or growing vertically to, that you want to subordinate
to that main. Leader in other, words you want to
cut those. Back related to, that you want to look
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at a young tree and make some early determination as
to where you think you're going to ultimately want that,
tree you, know limbed up. TO i was looking at
a big pinout tree. Yesterday it was probably limbed up
twenty five or thirty feet before the first set of. Limbs,
now obviously on a young, tree you can't limit, up you,
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know cut all the branches, off and that would be
very bad for the. Tree but what you want to
do is determine where you ultimately want that tree to
be limbed, up and anything below that we're not going
to prune, off but we're going to consider that to
be a temporary branch or a temporary limb that we're
ultimately going to be pruning. Off and the reason that's
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an important determination is because you want to not only
subordinate vertically growing branches that are competing with that main.
Leader but you want to take any of those lower
branches that are temporary branches and keep them somewhat horizontal
other which you don't want those growing upwards and starting
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to make, up you, know a decent percentage of the
canopy because then when you go back to print is,
off you're going to have a big hole in the
canopy of the. Tree you want them left on because
photos is how a tree feeds, Itself so you want
those left on as temporary branches until that upper part
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of the tree develops more and then you can start
systematically printing those lower branches. Off and, again if they're
horizontal more or less, horizontal you're not going to be,
losing can it? Be when you do this until, ultimately
and it might take several, years you get up to
that level that you ultimately want the tree limbed up,
(14:28):
to and that we call that young tree. Training and
it's just like. CHILDREN i, mean you don't wait until
a child is fifteen or eighteen years old before you start.
Disciplining you don't let them just figure things out for,
themselves because that often doesn't end. Well it takes some
guidance it takes some, Discipline it takes some. Correction whether
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it's a child or a, tree you have to be
kind of actively involved in the tree's early. Development and
if you do, that you're much less likely they have
problems from a structural standpoint as the true matures and.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ages you, know If i'm, looking If i'm standing back
AND i, Say i've got a twelve foot tree That
i've planned a couple of years, ago and it's right.
Now branch start starts about three feet off the, ground
and EVENTUALLY i do want to limb that up to
eight to ten feet off the ground SO i can
mow underneath it comfortably and have recreation underneath it. Comfortably
IF i, Know i'm going to start doing this on
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a regular basis as far as working it, up you,
know the layer by. Layer AM i better off just
to lead that first layer until the, fall then take
that one off so THAT i benefit from that all
season and then do it fall all the? Time or
not Necessarily.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No because the research is showing that the best time
to print is in the.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Spread, WELL i, KNOW i know you're saying. That i'm
just you, know, saying you, know for the benefit of
the photosynthesis at. All would it be better to wait,
until you, know early fall or midfall or.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
WHATEVER i would wait until the following.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Spring, okay, okay, Okay so leave it on there over the, winner,
right got, it and then take it off the. FALL
i got. It i'm in.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Correct so it's put of synthesizing the whole, year and
then it's not going to grow over the, winner so
it's not a big. Deal and then when spring gets
here you can print it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
OFF i get it, now, yeah, perfect perfect. Time. Yeah
so and IF i look at, that then is there
a percentage you know THAT i don't want? It you,
know like IF i do want to venturely limit up
and this thing is already twelve feet, tall you know,
obviously like you, SAID i don't want to limit up
to that at this, Point but you, know is there
some kind of a percentage or amount THAT i want
to leave? There is that just a judgmental take your
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time and work out.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
JUDGMENTAL i mean there are percentages out there like fifteen
to twenty five. Percent but it was really. INTERESTING i
went to a workshop last fall with doctor Ed, gilman
is probably the top expert in field on. Pruning is
The University. Florida in, Fact i'm going to a workshop
this coming week with him In. Indianapolis but it was
(17:08):
all about structural pruning and prescription tree, pruning and he
was taking probably thirty forty even fifty percent out of
some of these, trees these younger. Trees and his contention is,
THAT i, mean it doesn't hurt the younger tree to do.
That one of the things that you want to try
to do is to catch these branches when they's still
(17:31):
relatively small. Diameter in other, words, yes they're temporary, branches
but you don't want them to continue to develop until
they're two or three inches in. Diameter you want to
let them go for a few years and then still
cut them off when there may be a half inch
or an inch in. Diameter so you're not removing large diameter,
branches but you can remove a fairly large percentage on
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these trees if it's. Doing if it's if you're following
the other rule THAT i gave before from a standpoint of,
selecting you're you're puning for maintaining the temporary branches and
subordinating you, know top growth and things like. That the
other thing that happens sometimes is you'll have because of,
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nurseries like a nice full bodied tree when they when
they sell, it we get a lot of branches sometimes
that are really close, together and you don't really want
to add. Either you want to kind of sin some
of those. Out, again we're talking on a younger, tree.
Right you don't want to go thinning older. Trees it's
a completely different subject at least not usually but. Up
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but on these younger, trees you want more branch separation
along the. Trunk so if you have you, know five
branches all coming together in the same, place practically you
want to remove some of those to get more. Separation
and as.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Usual common the practice has been done for years and
years and. Years and when we're and we got about
a minute to go, here when we're removing those, branches
always make sure you leave the branch collar that's, there
what about a quarter of an inch or so past
that branch, collar and never never seal those wounds. Off, correct?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
CORRECT i.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Mean the only exception to that again is the oak.
Trees they do have to be prune during the warmer.
Months there is a recommendation out there to paint some
of the oak tree wounds because that would reduce the
chances that that disease carrying beetle might be attracted to the.
Tree but that's really about the only time you want
to do. It otherwise it's better you get better wound
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closure if you don't paint the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Wound got? It Ron roth is always a pleasure. Again
check out his website Is arbordoctor dot com for both tree,
information plant health, information as well as weather information. Too
so enjoy your. DATE i hope that the uster buddy
brings YOU i mean.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
DATES i, yeah however you want to say, That, yeah
you go?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Happy, yes happy easterer to use to appreciate. It all,
right quick, break we come all right you, too quick,
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at eight two to ONE wtv and eight hundred and
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radio six to TEN. Wtvn hey a couple quick quick reminders.
Here first of, All april Is Ohio Native Plant, month
(20:24):
and as a matter of, fact it's Now National Native
Plant month thanks to The state Of. Ohio but check
out the. Website it Is Ohio Native Plant month dot
Org Ohio Native Plant month dot org for all of
the native plant lists that you'll find on there for
the state Of ohio. Suggestions there are plants Of distinction
for twenty twenty, five the tree shrub all that that
(20:45):
they pick every. Year but this Is april Is Ohio
Native Plant month to bring the awareness to use of native,
plants so again check it Out Ohio Native Plant month dot.
Org also want to remind everybody that Next, saturday we'll
be broadcasting. Live, yes we'll be doing our show our
Second spring At rendezvous At Columbus trees and that's out
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In sunbury On Blue Church. Road going to be there
for their tend till. Noon looking for a little, drive
come on out and say, Hello we're going to see
some big trees At Columbus Tree so. Yep going to
be there Next, saturday that would be the twenty, sixth
from ten until. Noon it's thirty eight to Eighty Blue
Church road In, Sunbury. Ohio so come and see. Us
(21:30):
looking forward to a couple of going out there and
seeing all those big trees and seeing. You if you'll
stop out and say, hello we'd love to see you out.
There all, right back to the guarding fuon, lines we shall. Go,
Neil good, Morning.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Good, Morning Ron yes. SOON i enjoyed your commentary with the.
Arborist we have four crimson maples, yep and they're about
twenty five years old and one has a split in.
It another one has a growth that will be took
up large salad boat and put on the base of.
(22:04):
It should we just leave that them?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Go?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Uh, well you know when you get when you get
into that twenty five year, period it's sometimes it's not
a bad idea to have a certified arbist come out
and take a quick look just to make. Sure if
you want to send me a picture of both the
split and that bump that's on the trunk sounds like
some kind of a, burr then you can look that
(22:30):
up if you. Want but it's a it's nothing you
can do about. It BUT i would more happy to
take a look at it and, say, YEAH i would
call it an arbist to take a look or come
and see them on. Site but that's where a certified. Arbists,
again when trees are, older kind of out of your
hands as far as the maintenance and taking care of,
them to have them come out and look every year
and then they can keep them as healthy as. Possible
(22:51):
and then when they're in the, area they'll all swing
by and take a look, again and you, know next
year and a year after or. Whatever BUT i would
probably do. That but if you can take a couple
good pictures of both of those, situations email them to.
Me i'll take a look at. It i'll even email
it to OR i run let him take a quick
look at. It we'll get back to you and tell
you whether or not we suggest having somebody come out
(23:11):
and do something about. It but be more than happy
to do that for.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You, okay very. Good and one other. Question, sure maples
notorious for having their roots come above the, surface, right, yes,
Yes is there anything you can do about? That or
just bear with?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It you gotta bear with. It and then you know
here AND i say that you. Can we don't suggest,
this but you can actually come in and folks do
it all the, time and they'll put a couple inches
of soil over the top of those roots and then
put grass back down or whatever it may be to
cover them. Over never put it up against the trunk
of the. Tree never even get close to adding soil
up around the trunk of the. Tree but they'll do
(23:50):
that away from the tree and kind of level it
back up. Again you can get by with that, once you,
know and if there's only a couple inches of soil
for on a more established. Tree but the problem is
after two or three or four, years guess what's at
the top of that, Again those roots move right up
to the top of that. Level so it's really not
recommended because it's a temporary fix and you can only
(24:11):
do it one. Time so you either kind of deal with.
Them you get rid of the grass and put a
mulch bed around the, tree get rid of the, grass
grow ground cover around the tree or something like. That but,
yeah this other than, that not really a whole lot
you can do about. It we really don't want to
remove the brand those roots because they're a very major
part of the, structural you, know a structural integrity of
(24:35):
the tree as.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, now when you maulch around the tree like, that
you just go to the base and don't pile it up.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Correct and you'll if you looked at the base of
a tree that's correctly, mulched you should be able to
look straight down the sides and see the root flare
or see the actual soil down at the. Bottom so
you want to keep that probably four to six inches
away from the, Trunk so mulch up to that point
and then wide open from there down to the. Ground
LIKE i, say and you, KNOW i should be able
(25:05):
to see that root flare and the immediate soil around
that root flair as. Well that's the best way to
must those.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Trees, Okay, well thank you very, Much Oh, neil.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You're, welcome And i'll watch for your email and then
we'll take a look at it see what we could
suggest for.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You, okay thank, you all Righty, jan.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Good, Morning? Jan are you? There?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yes can you hear?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Me, yes.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Ma'am, Yes i'm waiting to cut back For cynthia's and
they've bloom now and they're probably about four and a
half feet. Tall, now how hard DO i cut them?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Back? Jan how hard would you like to cut them? Back?
WELL i, mean AND i say that with talk and,
cheek because you can take For ccythia and take it
back to six to ten twelve inches above the ground
and it'll respond quite. Nicely as a matter of, fact
when you rejuvenate Those remember wherever you cut those branches
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back is typically where you get most of the new
growth that comes. Out so if that thing's four feet
high and you cut it back six. Inches the new
growth that pops, out most of it will come out
at that. Cut so if you cut it down a
little bit, lower we get those branches coming out. Lower
we encourage lower branches to come up as well at
the base of the plant and kind of keeps a
little bit fuller down. Below so don't be afraid to
(26:26):
cut forcythia back really really. Hard don't do. This but experimenting,
wise we have taken forcythia and done a literally a
cutock right across the top of the. Ground so we
just took them off right at the top and guess
what came right back up? Again the procythia don't do,
That but that just shows you how residual they are
(26:47):
and how much they can take that hard. Pruting so
you go back, eight, ten twelve inches if you want.
To but LIKE i, say just remember wherever you make
those cutses where you'll get the majority of your new
growth coming out of that.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Plant and WHEN i, cut DO i cut straight across
or DO i try to shape? It?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
OH i think you mean as far as the, top.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Well straight across the, top then the.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Side, yeah you want to you wanna you want to
develop that system so that obviously the bottom branches are,
wider the tops the. Shorter so, yeah you kind of
mushroom that when you're done with, it you don't want
to just shave it straight across the top like you're
shearing a. HEDGE i would want to reshape it, Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
And the same for mock. Orange CAN i cut that back.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
HARD Nowt, Yeah, mark is it done?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
FLOWERING i have to double. CHECK i don't know for.
SURE i don't think so not.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
YEAH i was going to, say because that they use
it is a little bit later, flowering and, again let
it flower first and then come back and cut it.
Back in, us mock orange responds well to. It, also
as a matter of, fact mock orange looks better when
you do that every now and then do a rejuvenation
pruning because they carry a lot of dead woodenowse little
bitty branches, inside so cutting them back really hard sometimes
really helps to clean them out and kind of freshen
(27:59):
them back up. Again but, again let it flower for,
you enjoy the fragrance and the white, flowers and then
then have at it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
All, Right thank you so very, much appreciate your.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Show you're, Welcome, jane appreciate the. Call we're gonna take
a quick. Break Tomato george is on, hold so we
want to keep go. Go we're gonna come back to.
Him i'll see how EXCITED i am to come back
and see What Tomato george has been up to after the.
Break here on news radio six to TEN. WTVN i
bet that's Got Tomato george dancing around on the table right.
Now welcome, back we're. Talking you're already and here on
(28:29):
news radio six'. Ten wtvn, and yes ladies, and gentlemen
haven't heard from him from, a while but here He Is.
Tomato george, good, morning, good good.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Good Morning. Mister WILSON and i hope the world finds
you in. TOP shape I know i've enjoyed listening to your.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Program, today well we appreciate. You calling and everybody always
asked where, you are and by, the way we thought.
OF you a couple of, weeks ago we were Out
at Oakland. AND delaware a gentleman showed. Up there he
told me at. A greenhouse it's an eighteen. By thirty
he's been growing greenhouse tomatoes over the wintertime. For years
he brought me the three, most beautiful most Perfect. For
(29:09):
anti IT'S f O r o N t i beefsteak
tomatoes that you could have. EVER imagined i mean they
WERE as i thought they were fake, at first, absolutely
gorgeous probably about three inches wide. OR so i took
those home and every day sliced one open and singing
your song about. Fresh tomatoes it was. Absolutely wonderful and
(29:32):
OF course i thought, of.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You was that is That an? Italian, tomato yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And it's especially grown and it does especially well in.
Greenhouse conditions now you can grow it out SOIDE because
i had to look it Up because i'd never heard of.
It before but absolutely it's FOUR f O r o
N t i F anti and, he says been growing
that one for a while and it.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Was, outstanding well you know the two CRITERIA that i
use to determ in Which plants i'm going to, grow
regularly and that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Is taste and that's first. And foremost if it doesn't,
taste good just why waste your time? And productivity and so,
you know if you got, a tomato you, know tomatoes,
MY jam i have tomatoes. Every Day anita bryant had
a motto that, she says like a day. Without, SUNSHINE
well i got a day without tomatoes or tomato products
(30:27):
is like a day. Without sunshine AND so I do
v eight in the winter because you can't it's hard
to find a. Good tomato but my favorite Is lemon
boys and that's the ONLY hybrid. I grow but it's
so fabulous. And tasted you. Should have you should include
that in your repertoire. Of tomatoes if you want a great,
(30:51):
Sandwich Tomato kellogg's breakfast is the one that you want
to use because it's, very meaty, it's dense, few seeds
not to, particularly juicy and it makes a, great bacon
lettuce and. Tomato sandwich so. You know that's and and the.
TWO nurseries I. Am germany i'm a gambler, by nature
(31:11):
and so LAST year I planted may FIRST and i
got LUCKY and i had, a great. GREAT year i
put sixty two heirloom plants out and my daughter's raised
beds and they were. FIST fabulous i gave a lot
of tomatoes away, to everybody and, they see they all
seem to like them. A lot but but the bottom
(31:32):
line is is that the NURSERIES that i supplement my
and my germinated plants With. Is dills what's? Her name
colleen does a fabulous job Down. At DILL'S she i
chat with. Her often sarah used to be over There At,
baker's ACRES but I think mark's in charge of, it
(31:52):
now great merchandisers. Of tomatoes so, you know between the two,
of THEMS what I what. I do ONE discovery i made,
last Year and i'm always looking for a, new plant,
new tomato And That's anna's NOIR AND o I R
e noir and it's a green fleshed tomato with a
red starbird center and it's just a. Fabulous eater so,
(32:16):
YOU know i just can't wait for the regular tomatoes that.
Come on i'll gamble again this year and plant the First,
of MAY because i like, YOUR guest i DON'T think
i THINK we're i think we're safe from the frost
coming in to the traditional frost Line of. MAY fifteenth
i THINK it's i think it's gone, so well.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You know officially that. Is Gone it's. April thirtieth now.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
That's, Fabulous yeah I'm planting, april first no. Matter what
and in the same nine raised beds over my daughter's
house and it'll be another. Great year AND if i get,
A chance i'll bring you by. Some tomatoes say you
come in to work down there at.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Six', ten oh, Yeah all, right i'll yeah let me,
know you're coming so you make sure we. Lock, the doors.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Okay that's good.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Having me on hey, wait a second we're growing lemon.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Girl this, YEAR lemon girls i, know of. Those they're
good the lemon boys are The Ones that i'm i'm.
Happy with them i'm kind of a. Creature OF habit
once i get on TO something that i, REALLY really
like i rarely. Ever DROP it so I. Like lemon
boys and there's there's another. One out There It's. Called
Cherokee carbon the wizards of Hybridized the, traditional Cherokee purple
(33:41):
the indian one hundred year old heirloom tomato with the
one Hundred year old russian Heirloom Called, the russian black
and they came Up With a cherokee carbon and. It's
a fabulous it's a mahogany fleshed tomato and it eats like,
a million bucks and, so you know. Go for it
we got about twelve to, fifteen different varieties and all
(34:05):
of them. ARE just fabulous i eat a platter of.
Them EVERY night well.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I, was gonna, Say, so what, yeah you know a couple,
of years ago you gave me your vinaigrette recipe or.
WHATEVER that was i had a bazillion people email me
with Sim What was tomato? George's recipe that so next time,
you come on when we get into, the season here
you'll have to share that, with Us again and i'll
get that posted on our website so people can can
do that. One, as well.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
YEAH it's fabulous i sweeten it up with. A little
sugar i'll give you the. Recipe on it it's a
good it's my regular go to in fact for salads
as a matter. Of fact too. So no worries have
yourself a nice day and. Appreciate your program we.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Appreciate you calling in because everybody always wants To Hear.
From tomato george and if You Talk, to tomato dick let
us let him know that we're thinking about. Him as,
well and, again you know if you think about this
and all the years that We've Talked to tomato george,
on this show the Consistent Ones, to lemon boy he's
been on, that one forever And Of, course kellogg's breakfast
so which we had to throw down A man. OF
(35:08):
orange tied i think actually had one vote more for
A man Of Orange. Than kellogg's breakfast basically, the same
tomato but those who. Have been consistence and then Of
course that cherokee carbon is a, really good tomato so
be sure and check that. Out as, well all right that's.
It for today we thanks to all, of our callers thanks,
To our sponsors thanks Of course to, la our Producer,
because without ella none of the. Stuff Would, happen so
(35:28):
ella thank you so much for all. That you do
we really do appreciate your expertise here to. Run this
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so come. And see us make sure, you say hello and,
by all means make This the best easter weekend. Of
your life, see You
Speaker 6 (36:00):
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Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you're in
the garden here on his radio six' TEN wtv and
talking about yarding on This easter. Weekend and AS i,
promised it's time to bring him a good buddy. Back
he is a certified master. Arborist and tell you, what
he's a registered consulting all arbist AND i say board
certified master. Arborist it takes a lot to get to that.
(00:23):
Level he's at the graduate of The Ohouse State. University
and he's also very good at. Meteorology he knows. Weather
it's his, hobby but he knows it more than ANYBODY i.
Know AND i have questions about the, WEATHER i go
to my Friend ron. Rothis his website is arbordoctor dot.
Com you can learn all about trees and plants and
(00:44):
plant health as well as the weather as well at
arbordoctor dot. Com and he is with us this. Morning good, morning,
Sir good.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Morning how are?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
YOU i am absolutely. Wonderful you've got to be excited
thinking about The easter bunny coming. Tonight absolutely what will
be in the uh what would be in the arbor doctor's?
Speaker 3 (01:01):
Basket the arbor doctor's. Basket The easter bunny will be
bringing me dates.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
A?
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Date no?
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Dates?
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Oh? Dates? Oh multiple? Dates? Wow, yes go arbor.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Doc i've been working with a nutritionist nutrition with the
added Down, Louisville kentucky and uh and dates are in
my diet and. Wonderful and you take a couple of
little pecan, pieces you take the pit out of the,
date you put some little pecom pieces in. There, yes
(01:38):
it's just like pecan.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Pie it's.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Wonderful does.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
It are you allowed to take the dates and then
wrap them in bacon and then broil?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Them bacon would?
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Work?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yes have you ever had a date wrapped or a
fig date or fig wrapped?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Him?
Speaker 1 (01:53):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
UNBELIEVABLE i have, not but given me ideas that everything
goes with, bacon, right, absolutely, yes right talking With.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Ron rothis of, course he is our, arborist certified arbust
also our good friend when it comes to talking about the.
Weather let's talk about the weather. First you, know we
are finally starting to see things warm. Up soil temperatures
are just jumping out of the ground starting to warm
up as. Well we're now getting into that crucial period
where we're starting to see our potential frost free dates
(02:27):
coming up here, shortly which means your chances are thirty
or forty percent less or you know whatever either way
of having a frost after. That but you, know now
we start thinking about those tender annuals and vegetables and
protecting the tender foliage and all that kind of. Stuff
as we look out or as you look out over
the next three, weeks maybe four, weeks if you can
look that far, out which is probably our biggest planting
(02:50):
time for the spring. Season what are you seeing out?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
There, Well i'm breaking weather. News there's currently a severe
thunderstorm mornings for Central, morrow Southern Crawford county's north Of,
columbus so winds up to sixty five miles an hour
in penny size. Hail but beyond that, much there you.
Go but beyond, that it was looking quite warm for
(03:15):
the next two weeks at, least temperatures of what they're
going to be averaging quite warm over most of the
country except for extreme southwest part of the. Country so
we're looking good to. Go it does look like we
could cool down some after, that but you're getting into
almost you, know the second and third week Of may
(03:36):
at that, point and with each week that we proceed
in the, year the average temperatures go. Up so if
you're if the cold front comes through and your ten
degrees below, average you, know In january that could be bitter,
cold but in the middle Of may that may still
(03:56):
be well above. Freezing so's looking pretty good at this.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
Point so, yeah AND i know you can't go on
a limb and, say you, KNOW i think we're going
to be good at with our frost free. Dates but
from what you're kind of getting in, general What i'm
getting from, here What i'm hearing here is that there's
a real good chance we could be kind of in the.
Clear but obviously you want to watch. This if you're
planning tender, plants you're going to still want to watch
this every, day every other, day just to see where we.
(04:20):
Are but sounds like you're saying to me right, now
we're looking pretty darn.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
Good, well if anybody's going to go out on a,
limb you would think it would be an.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Ourburst but that's WHY i said it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Exactly but, uh, YEAH i, MEAN i think that the
chances look pretty good at this point that we're going you,
know we're going to skate through without another. FREEZE i
can't say one hundred, percent BUT i mean certainly with
well about normal temperatures over the next two, weeks it's
looking pretty.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Good, well it's just like that frost free. DATE i,
mean that's if you look at the way they calculate.
That and it used to be it was at the
fifty percent. Mark your chances were fifty percent or. Less
NOW i think when they when you go to the
charts and they post, them it's based on thirty percent
or less your. Chances and believe it or. Not AND
i know a lot of folks don't like to hear,
this but you, know for for southern through Central, ohio
(05:14):
it's Now april, thirtieth which is you, know unheard of
because these were Always may. Fifteenth everybody put that one,
down but, Yeah april. Thirtieth so but AS i look
back over the last two or three years in that
section of the of the, STATE i can't remember any
any later frosts that were of any. SIGNIFICANCE i do
(05:35):
know in Northeastern ohio they had a, couple but OTHERWISE
i can't really think of. That so we, may you,
know it sounds, good so putting all that together and
listening to what you have to, say we may be
good to go over the next two to three. Weeks
so you know we're gonna hold you.
Speaker 3 (05:47):
That by the, Way, YEAH i mean within the past ten,
years there's been a hard phrase On Mother's day. Weekend
it's probably been eight or ten years. Ago oh, yeah
well it has, Happened oh, sure but but, YEAH i
mean right now it's looking pretty, good in, fact with
temperatures averaging.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Well above normal.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Or well above.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
AVERAGE i think the you, know the soil temperatures that
you always talk, about are going to continue to warm,
up and you, know we're going to be pretty good
to go if we get a little bit more of.
THAT i, mean, obviously you, know it's been cold within
the past, week so it's going to take a little
while for the soil temperatures to really consistently get where
we need them to. Be BUT i, mean the night
(06:33):
time lows in the forecast are pretty good for the foreseeable.
Future so, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Joe AND i were looking at those earlier today and
it was amazing because yesterday was in the low, fifties upper,
forties and to this morning already it's in the upper
fifties and cool guy's going to hit lower. Sixties so
it's amazing how quickly it can rebound with a warm
day and a warm night combined back to, back how
quickly that does. Change talking With Ron roethis he is
our hobby, heterologists of, course our certified master arbust as.
(07:03):
Well his website is arbordoctor dot, com and he is
darn good at predicting that. Weather and he's saying looks
pretty good over the next two weeks or, So so
keep that in mind as we continue to move. Through,
obviously everybody's full bore as far as planting trees and
shrubs and evergreens and things like, that and this cool
season crops as. Well, Personally i'd probably give it another
couple of weeks BEFORE i do any of the tender.
Annuals but looking pretty good from what he's saying right.
(07:27):
Now let's take a quick. Break we come back more With.
Ron we're gonna talk about. Trees what's going on with
trees right? Now can we be, pruning, feeding? Spraying what
do we need to be? Doing you'll let us know
here on news radio six to TEN. Wtvn, girl you,
real they got? Me now you got. ME i don't
know What i'm. Doing, yeah talking to you yarding here
(07:49):
on news radio six ten AT wtv in This easter.
Weekend and my good buddy ron rothis is with us this.
Morning he is our registered consulting, ARBIST i, say boards
certified master, arbist and of course amateur medor lots as
well meteorologists as. Well Next friday is your big, day,
Man Arbor.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Day that's when all the ships come sailing into the.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Arbor right.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
Funny and he's a stand up comedian by the, way so.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
There he that's a line FROM i think it Was
sally that said that on The Charlie Brown Arbor day,
special which aired throughout my. Childhood for some, reason doesn't
get aired. Anymore but that was a cute little show
that Promoted Arbor day and tree, planting and it was
(08:36):
REALLY i look forward to seeing that every, year just
like all the Other peanuts. Specials so kind of miss.
It WISH i bring it.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
BACK i think you're gonna, say like all the Other
Arbor DAY tv, Specials i'm, like, WHAT i.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Don't remember Any, yeah all the Other Arbor DAY tv
specials that we enjoy as we sit.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Around it's unfortunate that we don't and it's unfortunate that
they don't play that. ANYMORE i was never A Charlie brown,
fan but, uh you, know it is unfortunate they don't
do that to try to promote a little bit, more
especially for the. Kids but, yeah It's Arbor.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Day ye wait, wait, wait you're not A Charlie brown.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Fan, sorry.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
This might change. Everything i'll have to reconsider whether OR
i don want to appear on your show.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
ANYMORE i got. It, HEY i do watch The Charlie Christmas,
special all. RIGHT i still watch that good. SOUNDTRACK i
think Like christmas. Music AS i just, said it's a
great soundtrack and that's WHY i watch. It talking With
ron Rothis Arbor day is Next. Friday so, obviously once
(09:37):
you get out and plant a tree or two or,
three and of course he's out, there it's a job
security for you as well for us to get out
and plant. Trees so what what what should we be
doing right now or what are you doing right now
when it comes to.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Trees, WELL i, mean certainly planting trees is something that
could be done this time of the. Year one thing
THAT i don't think people necessarily think about but is pruning.
Trees this is a great time in the year to
do that for most. Trees the exception would be oak
trees because of a disease called oak, wilt and we
(10:11):
don't want to be printing or at least we want
to be very cautious about pruning oak trees From march
through through Say.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
October so you cut that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Off about. THAT i have folks that ask sometimes that
you cut that off sometime In. March, yes, okay well,
BASED i MEAN i not not until you don't keep
going until the bud start to. Break you you're earlier
on in the spring.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Season, WELL i mean it's going to vary from year to.
YEAR i mean the oak buds are going to break
sometimes In. March sometimes it's going to be In. APRIL
i mean this year has been a little bit. Later
some years it's been a little bit. Earlier so, YEAH
i Mean march is a good rule of. THUMB i
mean in a, cold cooler year like this, year when
it's when the bud break has been a little bit,
(10:54):
later you, know Early april might be might be, okay
but but, yeah so SO i mean that that would
be an exception on the printing. Rule but otherwise research
is showing that they've done, research they've, pruned made printing
cuts at various times of the, year and they just
see better wound closure on most tempera trees when they're
(11:17):
pruned in the in the springtime because you have a
lot of activity going on that the tree is putting
on that new ring of growth in the, springtime and
that seems to facilitate the wound wood formation as, well
so it's a good time to do. That and related
(11:37):
to pruning is you, know whether you're planting a new
tree or you have a tree that you've planted in the,
past you really want to look at that tree and
see what the structure of the tree. Is AND i
don't just mean the outline of the. TREE i mean
the branching, structure because what you really want is essentially
a central leader that get central trunk that goes all
(12:01):
the way up through the canopy of the tree to
the top and a lot of and it doesn't have
to be straight all the. Way many times it. Isn't
but what you want to do is kind of step,
back look at the tree and kind of follow from
the trunk and find some sort of a leader or
branching structure that kind of goes right up through the
(12:22):
middle of the. Tree it can be a little bit,
arbitrary but you want to pick something that really makes
up a central, leader and in anything that's competing with
that or growing vertically to, that you want to subordinate
to that main. Leader in other, words you want to
cut those. Back related to, that you want to look
(12:42):
at a young tree and make some early determination as
to where you think you're going to ultimately want that,
tree you, know limbed up. TO i was looking at
a big pinout tree. Yesterday it was probably limbed up
twenty five or thirty feet before the first set of. Limbs,
now obviously on a young, tree you can't limit, up you,
(13:04):
know cut all the branches, off and that would be
very bad for the. Tree but what you want to
do is determine where you ultimately want that tree to
be limbed, up and anything below that we're not going
to prune, off but we're going to consider that to
be a temporary branch or a temporary limb that we're
ultimately going to be pruning. Off and the reason that's
(13:26):
an important determination is because you want to not only
subordinate vertically growing branches that are competing with that main.
Leader but you want to take any of those lower
branches that are temporary branches and keep them somewhat horizontal
other which you don't want those growing upwards and starting
(13:47):
to make, up you, know a decent percentage of the
canopy because then when you go back to print is,
off you're going to have a big hole in the
canopy of the. Tree you want them left on because
photos is how a tree feeds, Itself so you want
those left on as temporary branches until that upper part
(14:07):
of the tree develops more and then you can start
systematically printing those lower branches. Off and, again if they're
horizontal more or less, horizontal you're not going to be,
losing can it? Be when you do this until, ultimately
and it might take several, years you get up to
that level that you ultimately want the tree limbed up,
(14:28):
to and that we call that young tree. Training and
it's just like. CHILDREN i, mean you don't wait until
a child is fifteen or eighteen years old before you start.
Disciplining you don't let them just figure things out for,
themselves because that often doesn't end. Well it takes some
guidance it takes some, Discipline it takes some. Correction whether
(14:50):
it's a child or a, tree you have to be
kind of actively involved in the tree's early. Development and
if you do, that you're much less likely they have
problems from a structural standpoint as the true matures and.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Ages you, know If i'm, looking If i'm standing back
AND i, Say i've got a twelve foot tree That
i've planned a couple of years, ago and it's right.
Now branch start starts about three feet off the, ground
and EVENTUALLY i do want to limb that up to
eight to ten feet off the ground SO i can
mow underneath it comfortably and have recreation underneath it. Comfortably
IF i, Know i'm going to start doing this on
(15:27):
a regular basis as far as working it, up you,
know the layer by. Layer AM i better off just
to lead that first layer until the, fall then take
that one off so THAT i benefit from that all
season and then do it fall all the? Time or
not Necessarily.
Speaker 3 (15:47):
No because the research is showing that the best time
to print is in the.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Spread, WELL i, KNOW i know you're saying. That i'm
just you, know, saying you, know for the benefit of
the photosynthesis at. All would it be better to wait,
until you, know early fall or midfall or.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
WHATEVER i would wait until the following.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Spring, okay, okay, Okay so leave it on there over the, winner,
right got, it and then take it off the. FALL
i got. It i'm in.
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Correct so it's put of synthesizing the whole, year and
then it's not going to grow over the, winner so
it's not a big. Deal and then when spring gets
here you can print it.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
OFF i get it, now, yeah, perfect perfect. Time. Yeah
so and IF i look at, that then is there
a percentage you know THAT i don't want? It you,
know like IF i do want to venturely limit up
and this thing is already twelve feet, tall you know,
obviously like you, SAID i don't want to limit up
to that at this, Point but you, know is there
some kind of a percentage or amount THAT i want
to leave? There is that just a judgmental take your
(16:45):
time and work out.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
JUDGMENTAL i mean there are percentages out there like fifteen
to twenty five. Percent but it was really. INTERESTING i
went to a workshop last fall with doctor Ed, gilman
is probably the top expert in field on. Pruning is
The University. Florida in, Fact i'm going to a workshop
this coming week with him In. Indianapolis but it was
(17:08):
all about structural pruning and prescription tree, pruning and he
was taking probably thirty forty even fifty percent out of
some of these, trees these younger. Trees and his contention is,
THAT i, mean it doesn't hurt the younger tree to do.
That one of the things that you want to try
to do is to catch these branches when they's still
(17:31):
relatively small. Diameter in other, words, yes they're temporary, branches
but you don't want them to continue to develop until
they're two or three inches in. Diameter you want to
let them go for a few years and then still
cut them off when there may be a half inch
or an inch in. Diameter so you're not removing large diameter,
branches but you can remove a fairly large percentage on
(17:55):
these trees if it's. Doing if it's if you're following
the other rule THAT i gave before from a standpoint of,
selecting you're you're puning for maintaining the temporary branches and
subordinating you, know top growth and things like. That the
other thing that happens sometimes is you'll have because of,
(18:18):
nurseries like a nice full bodied tree when they when
they sell, it we get a lot of branches sometimes
that are really close, together and you don't really want
to add. Either you want to kind of sin some
of those. Out, again we're talking on a younger, tree.
Right you don't want to go thinning older. Trees it's
a completely different subject at least not usually but. Up
(18:39):
but on these younger, trees you want more branch separation
along the. Trunk so if you have you, know five
branches all coming together in the same, place practically you
want to remove some of those to get more. Separation
and as.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Usual common the practice has been done for years and
years and. Years and when we're and we got about
a minute to go, here when we're removing those, branches
always make sure you leave the branch collar that's, there
what about a quarter of an inch or so past
that branch, collar and never never seal those wounds. Off, correct?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Correct?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
CORRECT i.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Mean the only exception to that again is the oak.
Trees they do have to be prune during the warmer.
Months there is a recommendation out there to paint some
of the oak tree wounds because that would reduce the
chances that that disease carrying beetle might be attracted to the.
Tree but that's really about the only time you want
to do. It otherwise it's better you get better wound
(19:38):
closure if you don't paint the.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Wound got? It Ron roth is always a pleasure. Again
check out his website Is arbordoctor dot com for both tree,
information plant health, information as well as weather information. Too
so enjoy your. DATE i hope that the uster buddy
brings YOU i mean.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
DATES i, yeah however you want to say, That, yeah
you go?
Speaker 1 (20:01):
Happy, yes happy easterer to use to appreciate. It all,
right quick, break we come all right you, too quick,
break we come. Back phone lines are open for you
at eight two to ONE wtv and eight hundred and
sixty TEN wtv And Talking, yard and here on news
radio six to TEN. Wtvn hey a couple quick quick reminders.
Here first of, All april Is Ohio Native Plant, month
(20:24):
and as a matter of, fact it's Now National Native
Plant month thanks to The state Of. Ohio but check
out the. Website it Is Ohio Native Plant month dot
Org Ohio Native Plant month dot org for all of
the native plant lists that you'll find on there for
the state Of ohio. Suggestions there are plants Of distinction
for twenty twenty, five the tree shrub all that that
(20:45):
they pick every. Year but this Is april Is Ohio
Native Plant month to bring the awareness to use of native,
plants so again check it Out Ohio Native Plant month dot.
Org also want to remind everybody that Next, saturday we'll
be broadcasting. Live, yes we'll be doing our show our
Second spring At rendezvous At Columbus trees and that's out
(21:09):
In sunbury On Blue Church. Road going to be there
for their tend till. Noon looking for a little, drive
come on out and say, Hello we're going to see
some big trees At Columbus Tree so. Yep going to
be there Next, saturday that would be the twenty, sixth
from ten until. Noon it's thirty eight to Eighty Blue
Church road In, Sunbury. Ohio so come and see. Us
(21:30):
looking forward to a couple of going out there and
seeing all those big trees and seeing. You if you'll
stop out and say, hello we'd love to see you out.
There all, right back to the guarding fuon, lines we shall. Go,
Neil good, Morning.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Good, Morning Ron yes. SOON i enjoyed your commentary with the.
Arborist we have four crimson maples, yep and they're about
twenty five years old and one has a split in.
It another one has a growth that will be took
up large salad boat and put on the base of.
(22:04):
It should we just leave that them?
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Go?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Uh, well you know when you get when you get
into that twenty five year, period it's sometimes it's not
a bad idea to have a certified arbist come out
and take a quick look just to make. Sure if
you want to send me a picture of both the
split and that bump that's on the trunk sounds like
some kind of a, burr then you can look that
(22:30):
up if you. Want but it's a it's nothing you
can do about. It BUT i would more happy to
take a look at it and, say, YEAH i would
call it an arbist to take a look or come
and see them on. Site but that's where a certified. Arbists,
again when trees are, older kind of out of your
hands as far as the maintenance and taking care of,
them to have them come out and look every year
and then they can keep them as healthy as. Possible
(22:51):
and then when they're in the, area they'll all swing
by and take a look, again and you, know next
year and a year after or. Whatever BUT i would
probably do. That but if you can take a couple
good pictures of both of those, situations email them to.
Me i'll take a look at. It i'll even email
it to OR i run let him take a quick
look at. It we'll get back to you and tell
you whether or not we suggest having somebody come out
(23:11):
and do something about. It but be more than happy
to do that for.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
You, okay very. Good and one other. Question, sure maples
notorious for having their roots come above the, surface, right, yes,
Yes is there anything you can do about? That or
just bear with?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It you gotta bear with. It and then you know
here AND i say that you. Can we don't suggest,
this but you can actually come in and folks do
it all the, time and they'll put a couple inches
of soil over the top of those roots and then
put grass back down or whatever it may be to
cover them. Over never put it up against the trunk
of the. Tree never even get close to adding soil
up around the trunk of the. Tree but they'll do
(23:50):
that away from the tree and kind of level it
back up. Again you can get by with that, once you,
know and if there's only a couple inches of soil
for on a more established. Tree but the problem is
after two or three or four, years guess what's at
the top of that, Again those roots move right up
to the top of that. Level so it's really not
recommended because it's a temporary fix and you can only
(24:11):
do it one. Time so you either kind of deal with.
Them you get rid of the grass and put a
mulch bed around the, tree get rid of the, grass
grow ground cover around the tree or something like. That but,
yeah this other than, that not really a whole lot
you can do about. It we really don't want to
remove the brand those roots because they're a very major
part of the, structural you, know a structural integrity of
(24:35):
the tree as.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Well, now when you maulch around the tree like, that
you just go to the base and don't pile it up.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Correct and you'll if you looked at the base of
a tree that's correctly, mulched you should be able to
look straight down the sides and see the root flare
or see the actual soil down at the. Bottom so
you want to keep that probably four to six inches
away from the, Trunk so mulch up to that point
and then wide open from there down to the. Ground
LIKE i, say and you, KNOW i should be able
(25:05):
to see that root flare and the immediate soil around
that root flair as. Well that's the best way to
must those.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Trees, Okay, well thank you very, Much Oh, neil.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
You're, welcome And i'll watch for your email and then
we'll take a look at it see what we could
suggest for.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
You, okay thank, you all Righty, jan.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Good, Morning? Jan are you? There?
Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yes can you hear?
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Me, yes.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
Ma'am, Yes i'm waiting to cut back For cynthia's and
they've bloom now and they're probably about four and a
half feet. Tall, now how hard DO i cut them?
Speaker 1 (25:40):
Back? Jan how hard would you like to cut them? Back?
WELL i, mean AND i say that with talk and,
cheek because you can take For ccythia and take it
back to six to ten twelve inches above the ground
and it'll respond quite. Nicely as a matter of, fact
when you rejuvenate Those remember wherever you cut those branches
(26:03):
back is typically where you get most of the new
growth that comes. Out so if that thing's four feet
high and you cut it back six. Inches the new
growth that pops, out most of it will come out
at that. Cut so if you cut it down a
little bit, lower we get those branches coming out. Lower
we encourage lower branches to come up as well at
the base of the plant and kind of keeps a
little bit fuller down. Below so don't be afraid to
(26:26):
cut forcythia back really really. Hard don't do. This but experimenting,
wise we have taken forcythia and done a literally a
cutock right across the top of the. Ground so we
just took them off right at the top and guess
what came right back up? Again the procythia don't do,
That but that just shows you how residual they are
(26:47):
and how much they can take that hard. Pruting so
you go back, eight, ten twelve inches if you want.
To but LIKE i, say just remember wherever you make
those cutses where you'll get the majority of your new
growth coming out of that.
Speaker 6 (26:59):
Plant and WHEN i, cut DO i cut straight across
or DO i try to shape? It?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
OH i think you mean as far as the, top.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Well straight across the, top then the.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
Side, yeah you want to you wanna you want to
develop that system so that obviously the bottom branches are,
wider the tops the. Shorter so, yeah you kind of
mushroom that when you're done with, it you don't want
to just shave it straight across the top like you're
shearing a. HEDGE i would want to reshape it, Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (27:26):
And the same for mock. Orange CAN i cut that back.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
HARD Nowt, Yeah, mark is it done?
Speaker 6 (27:32):
FLOWERING i have to double. CHECK i don't know for.
SURE i don't think so not.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yet.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
YEAH i was going to, say because that they use
it is a little bit later, flowering and, again let
it flower first and then come back and cut it.
Back in, us mock orange responds well to. It, also
as a matter of, fact mock orange looks better when
you do that every now and then do a rejuvenation
pruning because they carry a lot of dead woodenowse little
bitty branches, inside so cutting them back really hard sometimes
really helps to clean them out and kind of freshen
(27:59):
them back up. Again but, again let it flower for,
you enjoy the fragrance and the white, flowers and then
then have at it.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
All, Right thank you so very, much appreciate your.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Show you're, Welcome, jane appreciate the. Call we're gonna take
a quick. Break Tomato george is on, hold so we
want to keep go. Go we're gonna come back to.
Him i'll see how EXCITED i am to come back
and see What Tomato george has been up to after the.
Break here on news radio six to TEN. WTVN i
bet that's Got Tomato george dancing around on the table right.
Now welcome, back we're. Talking you're already and here on
(28:29):
news radio six'. Ten wtvn, and yes ladies, and gentlemen
haven't heard from him from, a while but here He Is.
Tomato george, good, morning, good good.
Speaker 5 (28:39):
Good Morning. Mister WILSON and i hope the world finds
you in. TOP shape I know i've enjoyed listening to your.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
Program, today well we appreciate. You calling and everybody always
asked where, you are and by, the way we thought.
OF you a couple of, weeks ago we were Out
at Oakland. AND delaware a gentleman showed. Up there he
told me at. A greenhouse it's an eighteen. By thirty
he's been growing greenhouse tomatoes over the wintertime. For years
he brought me the three, most beautiful most Perfect. For
(29:09):
anti IT'S f O r o N t i beefsteak
tomatoes that you could have. EVER imagined i mean they
WERE as i thought they were fake, at first, absolutely
gorgeous probably about three inches wide. OR so i took
those home and every day sliced one open and singing
your song about. Fresh tomatoes it was. Absolutely wonderful and
(29:32):
OF course i thought, of.
Speaker 5 (29:34):
You was that is That an? Italian, tomato yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:37):
And it's especially grown and it does especially well in.
Greenhouse conditions now you can grow it out SOIDE because
i had to look it Up because i'd never heard of.
It before but absolutely it's FOUR f O r o
N t i F anti and, he says been growing
that one for a while and it.
Speaker 7 (29:53):
Was, outstanding well you know the two CRITERIA that i
use to determ in Which plants i'm going to, grow
regularly and that.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
Is taste and that's first. And foremost if it doesn't,
taste good just why waste your time? And productivity and so,
you know if you got, a tomato you, know tomatoes,
MY jam i have tomatoes. Every Day anita bryant had
a motto that, she says like a day. Without, SUNSHINE
well i got a day without tomatoes or tomato products
(30:27):
is like a day. Without sunshine AND so I do
v eight in the winter because you can't it's hard
to find a. Good tomato but my favorite Is lemon
boys and that's the ONLY hybrid. I grow but it's
so fabulous. And tasted you. Should have you should include
that in your repertoire. Of tomatoes if you want a great,
(30:51):
Sandwich Tomato kellogg's breakfast is the one that you want
to use because it's, very meaty, it's dense, few seeds
not to, particularly juicy and it makes a, great bacon
lettuce and. Tomato sandwich so. You know that's and and the.
TWO nurseries I. Am germany i'm a gambler, by nature
(31:11):
and so LAST year I planted may FIRST and i
got LUCKY and i had, a great. GREAT year i
put sixty two heirloom plants out and my daughter's raised
beds and they were. FIST fabulous i gave a lot
of tomatoes away, to everybody and, they see they all
seem to like them. A lot but but the bottom
(31:32):
line is is that the NURSERIES that i supplement my
and my germinated plants With. Is dills what's? Her name
colleen does a fabulous job Down. At DILL'S she i
chat with. Her often sarah used to be over There At,
baker's ACRES but I think mark's in charge of, it
(31:52):
now great merchandisers. Of tomatoes so, you know between the two,
of THEMS what I what. I do ONE discovery i made,
last Year and i'm always looking for a, new plant,
new tomato And That's anna's NOIR AND o I R
e noir and it's a green fleshed tomato with a
red starbird center and it's just a. Fabulous eater so,
(32:16):
YOU know i just can't wait for the regular tomatoes that.
Come on i'll gamble again this year and plant the First,
of MAY because i like, YOUR guest i DON'T think
i THINK we're i think we're safe from the frost
coming in to the traditional frost Line of. MAY fifteenth
i THINK it's i think it's gone, so well.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
You know officially that. Is Gone it's. April thirtieth now.
Speaker 5 (32:43):
That's, Fabulous yeah I'm planting, april first no. Matter what
and in the same nine raised beds over my daughter's
house and it'll be another. Great year AND if i get,
A chance i'll bring you by. Some tomatoes say you
come in to work down there at.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Six', ten oh, Yeah all, right i'll yeah let me,
know you're coming so you make sure we. Lock, the doors.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Okay that's good.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Having me on hey, wait a second we're growing lemon.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Girl this, YEAR lemon girls i, know of. Those they're
good the lemon boys are The Ones that i'm i'm.
Happy with them i'm kind of a. Creature OF habit
once i get on TO something that i, REALLY really
like i rarely. Ever DROP it so I. Like lemon
boys and there's there's another. One out There It's. Called
Cherokee carbon the wizards of Hybridized the, traditional Cherokee purple
(33:41):
the indian one hundred year old heirloom tomato with the
one Hundred year old russian Heirloom Called, the russian black
and they came Up With a cherokee carbon and. It's
a fabulous it's a mahogany fleshed tomato and it eats like,
a million bucks and, so you know. Go for it
we got about twelve to, fifteen different varieties and all
(34:05):
of them. ARE just fabulous i eat a platter of.
Them EVERY night well.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I, was gonna, Say, so what, yeah you know a couple,
of years ago you gave me your vinaigrette recipe or.
WHATEVER that was i had a bazillion people email me
with Sim What was tomato? George's recipe that so next time,
you come on when we get into, the season here
you'll have to share that, with Us again and i'll
get that posted on our website so people can can
do that. One, as well.
Speaker 5 (34:29):
YEAH it's fabulous i sweeten it up with. A little
sugar i'll give you the. Recipe on it it's a
good it's my regular go to in fact for salads
as a matter. Of fact too. So no worries have
yourself a nice day and. Appreciate your program we.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
Appreciate you calling in because everybody always wants To Hear.
From tomato george and if You Talk, to tomato dick let
us let him know that we're thinking about. Him as,
well and, again you know if you think about this
and all the years that We've Talked to tomato george,
on this show the Consistent Ones, to lemon boy he's
been on, that one forever And Of, course kellogg's breakfast
so which we had to throw down A man. OF
(35:08):
orange tied i think actually had one vote more for
A man Of Orange. Than kellogg's breakfast basically, the same
tomato but those who. Have been consistence and then Of
course that cherokee carbon is a, really good tomato so
be sure and check that. Out as, well all right that's.
It for today we thanks to all, of our callers thanks,
To our sponsors thanks Of course to, la our Producer,
because without ella none of the. Stuff Would, happen so
(35:28):
ella thank you so much for all. That you do
we really do appreciate your expertise here to. Run this
show now do. Yourself a favor get out there and
plant a tree or. Two with you keep cleating, those
native selections, pamper your worms, be pollinator friendly get your
kids and dogs involved. In the. Gardening Don't, forget next
saturday we're going To be, a columbus tree so come out.
And see Us that's in sunbury from, ten until noon
(35:50):
so come. And see us make sure, you say hello and,
by all means make This the best easter weekend. Of
your life, see You
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