In The Garden Hour 1 10-4-2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.

Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (00:03):
I am Ron Wilson, your personal yard boardy talking about
yard day this month of October. Let's kick it off
with the cup with Joe. Uh, you know Joe, don't
you know? No, you know Joe, Joe Strecker. He's our
executive producer. He takes care of our website, our Facebook page.
Of course. The website is Ron Wilson Online dot com
Facebook page in the Garden with Ron Wilson, which, by
the way, Ron Roethlis is not on the Facebook page today.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
He's not.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Why not, Well, I'm guessing that he's not because he's
in Australia.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Oh he'd better still be. He is called the world
Wide Web. He's an Australia Worldwide he's touring Australia and
New Zealand nineteen day tour. Wow, they send me pictures Thursday.
I think it was. That's pretty cool. I guess that's
one of the places I always wanted to go.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I just don't know if I could handle the by
the way, good morning, remember me, I don't know that
I could handle the flight over. Yeah, you give me
a plane more than about four hours or so, and I.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Guess it all depends on a leg room.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah, I'm starting to get a little antsy, So I
guess you'd have to do it. No, you fly like
to La and then the Hawaii and then did Japan
and then you get different legs. I'll take your word
for it. But yeah, I don't know if you want
to break it up. I guess you could do that.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
But yeah, that's pretty cool. Eighteen hours. Yeah, so he's
over there for three days.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Pretty cool? Pretty cool. So did you miss me? But
you didn't you miss what? You didn't miss me? Nice
week you we're here, all right? So I was a trip.
It was great, nice and relaxing. That was the weather
in Florida. Beautiful. I think it only rained, well, it
rained on, doesn't rain every day. It kind of rained

(01:41):
every day. But where we were in uh Kissimi, which
is just outside of Orlando, I mean, you could see
the clouds coming, but you know, it's just kind of
like at my house, they just kind of die.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Right, Oh, Joe's there, let's just go around the other side.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
I think I think Tuesday evening we had rain and
there was a little bit of rain maybe Thursday, but
that was pretty much it for our for where we
were at.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
So what did you do for a whole week?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Nothing? Absolutely nothing? Oh I n g I mean even
though we were in Orlando, we didn't go to Disney,
we didn't go to Epcot, we didn't do any of
those things. We were just going to enjoy doing nothing.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We didn't go to Gator World.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
We did nothing. Oh my gosh, you got to go
to Gator World. No, no, we now at the Gators.
I mean the place we were at, everything was was
contained on the on the property. We didn't need to leave.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's nice. A grocery store and everyth had a grocery.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Store on the property, restaurants on the property, entertainment on
the property. You know, a water park on the property.
Which right did you go on? Huh?

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Water park?

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Well?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I went down one slide and I thought I was
going to drown. Seriously, Yeah, yeah, because I'm not. You know,
the fifteen year old Joe would have went down the
water slide million times, screaming and yelling. The fifty year
old Joe was like, oh gosh, this is terrible. Let
me go back to the Lazy River. So I went

(03:15):
around raped. I think I spent the first day we
went to the water park. I think I spent two
and a half hours on the Lazy River, just going
around in circles, floating on the tube, just floating on
the tube every time I passed that, every time I
passed bye see me. Did they have a bar on
that one too, Yeah, yeah there was a bar there.

(03:36):
You couldn't we weren't allowed to take anything on the
river in case you spilled it. Yeah, but there was
a bar there.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
Yes. You don't think anybody else is doing anything else
in that Lazy River, Dad, I you know what, but
you can't spill your drinking there, don't spell your drinking there.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
So yeah, it was. It was fun then. The place
was great. Good for you, you know, the hospitality was off.
So I'm gonna definitely recommend it, you know, for Yeah,
it was. It was great. Its relaxing week and I
I turned my phone off as much as I possibly could.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Yeah, because I sent you a test text. You sent
me a text the first weekend, Yeah, I just to see.
I'm sorry I didn't answer you. No, I'm glad you
did because I laughed and said, all right, good for him.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, I think I think I checked my my messages
maybe like like once in the morning and once after
we got finished at the pool, you know, just to uh,
you know, just because I didn't want to come back
to work with you three thousand messages either, so you know,
I kind of cleared cleared out email and stuff, and

(04:45):
but I didn't answer anything.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Good.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
So, yeah, it was great.

Speaker 1 (04:50):
Do you enjoy the fauna?

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, the fauna was great. Oh, I need to tell
you about these bugs we got attacked. It wasn't like
it was like Thursday. We got hit by love bugs.
Love bugs, Yeah, that's what they were. They called love bugs.
It's a it's a this bug and it's about people

(05:16):
can't see, but it's maybe about an inch long, and
it flies and it's got a red head and the
male is actually attached to the female. That's why it's
called a love bug. Or it's called a honeymoon bug. Okay,
because they are mating in the air and they fly
in man and they fly and and those things.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Why the heck guy? Really?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Wait goodness?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah, yeah, love bugs.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, maybe Joe Bogsmon will know about it here in
a couple of hours. But but yeah, I mean they're
like a beetle. They they kind of look like they
kind of look like a lightning bug with another bug
attached to it. But with they land on you, the
female will bite you. I mean the male is just
kind of long for a ride, which is kind of

(06:07):
you know, standard operating procedure for I guess every species.
But yeah, I mean it was Thursday. Thursday they were bad,
but the rest of the time it was okay. Yeah,
they land on you, they bite you, give you a
little little pinch.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Wow. Love bugs.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
So that's what that's. I mean. I had to look
them up because I didn't know what it was. So
I took a picture of it, and thanks to technology today,
I put the picture through AI and or not AI,
but through a Google what's it called picture recognition or
picture finder and bo amerricane I love bugs or honeymoon bugs.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Great?

Speaker 2 (06:54):
So see see so you didn't and to mild you
while you were doing, I stumped Ron Will today. I
have never heard of that. I need to go to Florida.
Put that on the calendar after twenty five years. For
twenty five years, how you stumped me meant more than that? Yeah,
it was great, good sou website.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
It happens to be Ron Wilson Online dot com in
the Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson before
we hit that any guests today, Bill de Boor from
Ron Roth House calling from AUSTROI is not calling from Australia, slacker, Yeah,
what can I say? But Bill de Bore from What
Do You Wear House? We've had hit on recently talking
about native plants and he's going to talk about native

(07:36):
fall blooming plants, perfect for the late bloomers, for the pollinators. Cool,
so he'll give us a good list. He gave us
a good list before of nice woody tree shrubs and
Woody's Woodies tree and shrub and now he's going to
do flowering plants. So looking forward to it. Bill, Bill
knows his stuff, he knows his natives and his native
species and all that. So yeah, it's Woody Wear House.

(07:57):
So that's our only guests you, Gary and Buggy Joe
and in between.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
So the Facebook pages rocking and rolling. The chat room
is up and running. There's a couple of of a
posted this week from Buggy Joe about the box tream moth,
what's going on with that? And Thomas Dejaz has something about.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
The patients and patience.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Yes, yeah, uh, Rita's recipe of the week looks really good,
really good. It's a sure look good.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
It's a Mexican dish, a raz con polio, which if
you go to a Mexican restaurant would be you can
get those. But it's just chicken. It's chicken chicken. Yes,
but it's really really really really really good. I could
do it without the olives because I'm not a big

(08:53):
olive guy. But yeah, I'll just take the olives out.

Speaker 1 (08:56):
Of mine and just take those out so it tastes
like dirty socks.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Rina's Recipe of the anyway. Yeah, uh so arose con
polo is a. Rita's recipe of the week. Course and
the uh, the plane of the week is the burr oak.
Why'd you pick that because that's what you sent me.

Speaker 1 (09:19):
Oh, it's my favorite tree of all trees, right next
to the ginkgo and the Japanese maple. But that's one
of my favorite trees. Cassira's macrocarpa close Quercus corpus, quercus
quirkus quakus macrocarpa. So yeah, burroaks, Yes, what's so awesome

(09:42):
about the burroak that they're cool. It's a It is
a stately shade tree. Huge, give it plenty of time
to grow, big leaves, big acorns, mossy mossy oak is
called sometimes but really nice. That's just of all the
oak trees, I just to me is the ultimate of
all oaks.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Those the same oaks that they have down in normal.
They're the same family. Yes, I still remember you came,
when you came back and down there, you were all
impressed with it. Those are awesome pictures of this. If
I sat on one of the branches, yeah, because it
came right they came right on the ground, right above
the ground.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
So yeah, I'm rested and relaxed, and I'm back from
from Vaca. So the the other cool part about uh
the place that we went is, uh the sports party
went to had Margarita's on tap mm hm and they
were really really strong and yummy tasty, very tasty and

(10:51):
uh maybe you had one or two excellent yes for you.
So if there's any restaurant tours out there that are listening,
and in addition to beer on tap, you should try Margarita's.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Tap on the rocks frozen on the rocks even better. So, no, salt.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Well, they had some kind of like Himalayan volcanic salt
they called it. It could have just been regular salt
with with black coloring, but it's sounding cool on the
menu volcanic blat.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
It would be different, so so cool. All right. You
like Dewey's Pizza, Yeah, Dewey's is really good. You like Skyline? Yeah,
she with the guy coming out?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Yeah, I saw that. I saw that story.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Yeah. Oh I thought you'd like that because I like
And that's not the spaghetti pizza. No, no, no, that's
that's the Skyline dip pizza. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, it's October the eighth. There we go, every last,
every last cool. All right, are you gonna head out?
Open the phone lines, load them up and if you
haven't got a question answered the last couple of weeks,
this is the one hop on I wanted to take
you to get back in the groove. What being gone

(12:16):
for a week doing absolutely nothing, probably like two or
three days because because my my sleep schedule stuff. Oh yeah,
it took me to like Wednesday before I finally got
back to normal.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's good. It was that.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
It was really good.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Joe Schreker, Executive producer. If you like what you see
on our website, Ron Wilson online dot com, Facebook page
in the garden with Ron Wilson. He had everything to
do with it. If you something there you don't like,
any question not sure about, don't blame Joe.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Blame doctor Z who decided to come to town and
and not see a lot of us. That's right, it was,
it was. It was I think wedding focused. Yeah, right,
so you still have time for your buddies.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I did volunteer rest to sing it the way. Well
you can sing at the wedding. What you're an excellent singer.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Sure about?

Speaker 1 (13:07):
Let you sing ago just kind of follow it behind you. Okay,
we'll do okay, we'll do that. Maybe we'll do a
joint toast for him. Okay, but first of all, you
know what, Joe, what we have to get invited. That's
true as well. Oh you wedding for you never I've
never done that before. Crash we could be the crashers.
There you go, I'll be I've been spawned. Good point,

(13:29):
good point. Yeah, thanks a lot, I'll you know, Owen Wilson. Yeah,
see here we go. All right, I'm always thinking I'm
in all right, uh eight hundred two three eight two five.
Did I say everything, finish it up and all that
kind of stuff, all right, sidecar say cars the Sweetheart

(13:51):
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five Here
in the garden with Ron Wilson and the Durango Kid
talking yarding at eight hundred eight three eight two five five.
During the break there, I could hear my I could
feel my cell phone buzzing over here to my left,
and I picked it up and looked, and it's Ron Rothlis,
the Yarbor doctor who was in Australia. I think he's

(14:14):
in Sydney.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
I'm jealous.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And it's like eight what is it eight whatever, they're
eight thirty or whatever, a twenty twenty five anyway, in
the evening, and he is in his room listening to
the show you talk about technology, Dan, You know first
of all that we're you know, talking to him in Sydney,
Australia through text, and its immediate. It's right there, back forth.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Back forth, Yeah, within a few seconds.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
And then he's sitting in his hotel room listening to
the show. I mean, that's that's just mind boggling that
But that's today, right, that's today's world.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Yeah, it's eight twenty six over there right now.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Yeah, so that kind of crazy stuff. One thing he
did mention and obviously he's on a I think it's
a three week tour that he's out there, but obviously
they're looking at he's looking at trees and things like that.
And he said, what's impressed him so far the most
about their urban trees, plantings and all is that most
all of the urban trees look great. And he said

(15:12):
they do so much extra care for all of their trees.
And he said, as he looks around, he sees root
flares everywhere. That's like Priorities showed me the flare and
he said, it's it's just it's wonderful to see. And
he said there are obviously a few ailing trees here
and there for whatever reason it may be. But he
said that what they do is spectacular. And so he

(15:35):
is totally impressed with what they do. And I think
it's a great point, you know, when we talk about
how you know, if you want the biggest influence you
can on this mother earth. You know, recycling and all
the things we do, that's great, that all helps, but
planting a tree or two or three every year, planning
them properly, right tree, right location, planting them properly, and

(15:58):
taking care of the them to grow properly as well.
Not just planting trees, but growing trees is so dog
gone important and some countries, some communities get it more
than others. And he kind of said something about how
do we get this across everybody out there as far

(16:19):
as how important it is for planting procedures, right tree,
right place, planting procedures, uh, and then doing the right
things to get them to grow and do what they
need to do. And it's a it's a great, great point.
So you know, again, I can't stress it enough. You know,
it's fall time to get out and plant a tree
or two or three. Great time to do it. Plant
the right tree in a right spot, make sure you

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plant it properly, show me the root player, and then
do everything you can as that tree continues to grow,
to make it grow and grow and grow and be
a healthy tree. Eight hundred eight two three eight two
five five. Taking your calls here in the garden, Ron
Wilson talking yardning at eight hundred eight two three eight

(17:09):
two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. We are talking yarding. I forgot to mention,
hope she doesn't shoot me. Rita Hikenfel will be joining
us at the top of the hour, uh talking to
the to her garden and we'll talk about her recipe
as well, which you can find on our rest our
website at ron Wilson online dot com. You know, there's
so much going on right now in the yard and garden,

(17:31):
it's crazy. Now we're going through a little bit of
a drought again. Get that good rainfall came through a
couple of days, kind of helped out a bit, replenished
a few lakes and ponds, and then it warmed right
back up again. And now we haven't had any rainfall,
so we're back into that situation again. Looking at the
drought map for Ohio, UH, pretty much all around moderately

(17:52):
moderate drought, slight drought, some areas even worse. So we
need the rainfall. So keep up your watering please. You know,
falls an excellent time for planting. It is an excellent
time for planting, and we still have plenty of time.
You got all of October and as long as the
warm weather sticks with us, you got November and sometimes
all the way into December, so we still have plenty
of time for planting, but getting out there and planting,

(18:15):
and you know, I anticipate as the temperature start to
cool down, and we're seeing a definite cool down next
week and some showers moving through, and you know, once
just starts to cool down, daytime temps and nighttime temps,
days are getting shorter, soil us and dry out as quickly.
So when you water, you know, it sticks around. It

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doesn't just go away in a hurry. So you know,
keep planting. You may have to pre water a little bit,
grassy lawns, things like that. A lot of questions right now,
you know, is am I too late for cool season seeding?
You know, we try to get that done mid August
through the end of September. Well we're getting late, but

(18:58):
I still would recommend you do it. If you've been
waiting and waiting waiting and you can do it, I'd
get on it. And the only one I wouldn't be
trying to see this late in the season would be
the bluegrasses. They take a long time to germinate. It
may take two or three weeks before you see him
start to come up, and you don't know what's going
to happen at that point. So those I would probably

(19:18):
hold off. But the fescues, the rise not an issue,
and I would get on that right away. So if
you've got those bare areas that you haven't done any seating.
As matter of fact, talking with a gentleman this week
who went through the process of killing everything out, I
mean he took the I'm not sure what he used it.
It was Furlough's kills all whatever, but he killed everything
out moded down low. We did find out that he

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had a fairly thick thatch below. Now, if it's less
than a half an inch, you're you're okay. You can
slice seed down through that. If it's thicker than that,
you might want to get some of that out of there.
But that does help to keep moisture once you get
a good and wet If it's thinner, all right, less
than half an inch is a little bit of multi
for you for your new seed. But nevertheless, uh doing

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that all this week, and he's gonna get on this
weekend to finish up. So you'll get that slice seeded.
You'll get it the starter fertilizer in there, put the
water to it, and he's gonna have to keep it
just evenly moist not wet. We don't want it puddled
water wet. We just want good even moisture. And you
you know, you may have to do that a little
sprinkling every day just to keep that even moisture. And

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I think you'll be surprised how quickly the tall fescues,
turf type tall fescues, or if you're using rise, how
quickly they do come up. Seven ten days, you're up
and start to see green, and by the end of
October you're gonna be looking at a pretty green lawn
at that point. By the way, if you are using
a slice or slit seeder when you are seeding your

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your lawn, and remember that seed soil contact your seed
touching the soil is so important. Got to do that
or you're not gonna, you know, get that seed to Germany.
Very very important, and so that's why we use a
slice or slit seedar to get it down into the ground,
just barely into the top of the surface. But if
you are doing that, remember crisscross your patterns. So do

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half your rate. If it's eight pounds per thousand square feet,
do four pounds per thousand square feet north and south.
Then do four thousand per square feet east and west,
so you crisscross and you don't have like corn rows.
You'll actually see a checkerboard pattern starting to come up
with your grass seat. That's the best way to do that.

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Start a fertilizer and then go from there and again
keep good even moisture to it. And as like I
was saying earlier, the days get are getting shorter, it's
gonna get cooler next week. Nighttime temperatures are dropping nicely.
You know it won't dry out quite as quickly, so
you know, again I'm on it. I'm saying go ahead
and go for it this week. If you're still looking

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to do some last minute seating to get it up.
Been growing yet this fall and we're talking cool season
grasses zones southern, five, sixes, sevens eights, I'd get on it.
I think you still got plenty of time to do that.
Otherwise we start to hold off and we will look
at dormant seating, which means you put it down and
you know it's going to be too cold, too late

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in the season, not going to come up. The seed
stays there, wait till springing goes and if you're going
to do that, might I suggest that you wait until
mid to late February. Freezing and thawing helps to work
the seeds into the ground. It's a little closer to
germination time. You'll probably have a lot less seed loss
by doing it later in, you know, closer to the

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spring season. Fall seeding the best time, dormant seeding the
second best time, spring seating the third best time. So
you know, now's a good time to do it. And
again starter fertilizer, and if you haven't put regular lawn
food down yet on those cool season turfs, still got
time to do that for the first feeding, get it down,

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give yourself about six weeks. You can come back and
put the second feeding down at that point and you'll
probably be using the same fertilizer I like in the fall.
Using fur looms long food plus iron does a great
job for both feedings. All right now and again in
about six weeks seven weeks you can put it down

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for a second second application. So I still get on
it and tree planning the same way. I still get
on that as well. To Cincinnati, we go DJ, good morning.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Good morning run.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
I'm trying something new this year. Tried to grow some
late sunflowers just to put them out in the fall
around Halloween, see if we can get some pretty color
extending into the late fall. So I put them out
and they're all about i'd say about eighteen inches tall amount,
and just getting ready to put them in the ground,

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and I noticed that I've got some aphids on the stems.
You know, that fy furry stem and you know, I
know that, you know, the an easy way to get
rid of aphens is just to blast it with water.
But they're not stable enough or firm enough to get
them with water and knock it off. So I'm wondering

(24:16):
if there's something I could mix up to put on it,
or use a seven or something. I wasn't sure what
to do.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, insecticidal soap does a great job. That'll that'll knock
those off of there for you, you know, by putting
it on, and the soap does a great job. The
soap it interferes with it kind of just helps to
dry them up once it interferes with their breathing. So
even though they're a sucking insect, it does work on
aphans as well. And it's very safe, good for the

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you know better for the environment, pollinators in the whole
nine yards, but insecticidal soap should take care of it.
If you have seven, you can use that. If you
have eight E I, G. H. T you can use
that those those both will also work. But insecticidal soaps
do a nice job for you, and so should take
care of it. I like your idea of doing that
later in the season. If we stay like we have

(25:03):
in the last couple three years for the fall, you
shouldn't have any problem getting those in flower.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
It's going to be fun. It's going to be fun.
These are little little ones, you know, they're not the
big tall or anything.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, so they flower quicker.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Yeah, and as long as you can keep the deer away,
you know, then you you know which is which is
half the battle?

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Is there a Is there a particular brand of insecticidal
soap that you like her?

Speaker 4 (25:31):
No?

Speaker 3 (25:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Now, everybody has their own. I mean, Safer has THEIRS,
Bonnited has THEIRS, Fertilom has there. So they're they're all
out there. They're they're basically the same. But I like
using the commercially made and sexticidal soap versus doing it yourself.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Okay, good. Well, I'm going to be over at a
place tomorrow, you know of True Garden Center. Tomorrow, I'll
pick something up and uh, you know, I can't tell
you how much we do. Appreciate everything you all do.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Hey, DJ, I appreciate that, and I get let me
know when they start the flower, let me know all
about them.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
Okay, Well, you know, like I said, at about eighteen inches,
I already got I already got buds. Excellent right in
the middle. Yeah, good for you.

Speaker 4 (26:12):
Yeah, put it try you know, if anybody wants to
try it next, you know, right around September. First, go
ahead and throw them and then you throw them in
a little pot, you know, some nice nice starter seated
the start a soil and you never know.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Excellent. I appreciated DJ. Always a pleasure. Take care, sir,
bye bye bye before we take a break. Dick from Dayton,
good morning, Hey.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Good morning, Ron, Well Jenny, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (26:37):
We're good. Your Reds didn't pull it off, but at
least they made it. Hey, hey, hey, at least they
made it into the playoffs. Right, Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 6 (26:45):
That's a good time.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
My cousin called me from Cleveland. I have to say
the Guardians had a good year, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (26:54):
And that team came out of nowhere nowhere. I mean
they were way down and they came out of no where.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
And games out yep, and they just they stunned the world.
And I just was so just see the heartbreaker, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
But but good, well, good for both teams to make
it into the playoffs. I look at it that way.
At least you got that far.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
Yep.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
I don't know about the Browns and the Bengals. It
doesn't look good, does it.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I think we've got to a couple of Yeah, that's
not gonna be a good year for either one of them.
I don't think.

Speaker 5 (27:27):
No, No, they got to get that quarterback, getting a quarterback,
and I couldn't believe they just got beats so bad.
But scot Joe Burrow, it's kind of it's kind of
rough for him, you know.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, But Dick, how can how can I losing a
quarterback affect your defense and all the rest of the
players too, you know, Yeah, I don't know. It's it's
it's crazy, but you know, well, yeah, there's always next year.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
I guess next year.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
Hey, this year isn't over yet. You never know, what's
going to happen? And then you got the box. They're
doing great.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Yeah, but I'm I'm I think maybe maybe they'll come
out of this, you know. But the Browns play early tomorrow,
oh do they Yeah, they play early tomorrow. And yeah,
I'm going to go Bundy. Somebody called me. It's called
Moraine Jam. I'm going down there down by the uh oh,
it was in West Carlton there you know that area,

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uh huh. And it's pretty good down there. They got
u they break pies and cake and it's just really nice,
you know.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Good for you, good for you. Well, we got to
take a break, Dick. Always a pleasure, always a pleasure.
All right, I have a great weekend. Talk to you
next week. Dick from Dayton. Quick breakdown from Columbus. You're
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Speaker 1 (28:55):
In Welcome back Here in the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Again that toll free number eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five before we talk to down here.
You know, if you look out right now, we're starting

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to finally see a little fall color, not just yellowing
and browning from the drought, but starting to see some
fall color out there. Use you the more stressed plants
give you some earlier fall color. You see some maples
in that the colors started coloring up three or four
weeks ago. Typically means they're a little understressed, whether they're
newly planted or in they's extremely dry spot or whatever

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it may be. But you know what really starts is
color up right now before everything else gets into bright color.
And it is spectacular. I mean it really is spectacular.
As a matter of fact, I've had it as our
plant pick of the week. It's a vine and it turns.
It starts out kind of shades of yellows and oranges,
but then it gets that red and even that dark purple,

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and I mean it stands out like a sore thumb.
And you see it on the sides of trees, and
you see it here and there everywhere, and if you
grab it, it makes you itch. Yeah, I'm talking about
poison ivy. You talk about spectacular fall color, Well, you
know why they do that. One of the reasons, speculation obviously,
is that they change colors typically before a lot of

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other plants because they have seeds that are there. That's
of course how they spread, so that bright color can
help to attract some of the migratory birds coming through
who can pick up a few seeds and distribute those
around the area. Kind of makes sense. But the point
being here is one is you can find poison ivy
because it turns fall color earlier than a lot of

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other plants. So look for it that way. Remember those
leaves when they drop still have the uresiol in it.
It's still very toxic. And the vines, you know, if
there's pieces drop off or whatever, or you happen to
cut them off at the ground, and that vine's still
on the side of the tree and you're gonna pull
that off of there. Don't forget that ursil. It lasts three, four, five,
six years in that vine and you can still get

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it if you do. By chance. You're out working cleaning
up this fall, so I want to talk with you
about that too, as far as what how.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Extreme do you clean up now with all the new
insight on you know, kind of leaving the ever the
landscape look natural over the winter. I'm curious what you
what you think about that. I'm kind of compromising between
the two. But you know, as you're cleaning up and
all of a sudden you start to break out in
a rash, Well that's because of poison ivy.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
Those leaves are still very viable.

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that it's about forty forty five bucks a two. But
it does work post rash. Yeah, post rash. I think

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it's one of the only products out there for doing that.
So Columbus, we go, don good morning, money, how are you.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I'm good. You know you've been in the landscape business,
guarding business for a while.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
What's your you know about thirty five years?

Speaker 1 (32:07):
About thirty five years? You know, Uh, the old the
old practice used to be going and clean everything up,
cut all the perennials, back, clean everything up, rake it out,
nice clean beds. When it's all said and done, going
into the winter, season and now, and I get it
looking at the wildlife and the and the you know,
helping things over winter, leaving some of those seat heads

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up at all. You know, the thing is let it
be and let it sit there and look like that
over the wintertime and then clean it up in the spring.
What's your thoughts on that, my so, I it's mixed.

Speaker 6 (32:40):
It's I think it depends on what type of winter
you have, because even many of the order mental grasses
you get heavy snow, ice, and those things just get
mad down like nobody's business yep, so and they look
like webbish. So I mean, I think it's it's personal pleasance.
I don't think it matters too much either way. I mean,
like most things in this industry, odds largely posted. No

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preference that it is now all the time obviously, but
you know many of the times there is so. But
I personally always could keep everything clean. That's just how
I was trained. That's just that's just my own.

Speaker 1 (33:15):
Oh yeah, well that's why I say, You've been into
business a long time and that's always been the way
I looked at it. But you know, I'm more and
more kind of doing a half and half cleaning up work.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
And really it really started in Europe to try the
probably twenty twenty five years old to leave the natural look.
And I don't really as you know that was it
was actually a one eighty because it was previously you know,
you look at the traditional and I started as industry
actually in New Zealand. It was very much like everything

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has to be clean, everything has to be kind. And
then sometime around because I lived in christ Church for
about year between two thousand and one and two thousand
and two, and that's why I did, i'd actually got
into the industry and that was what I was going
to talk about it the I don't know how we
can get people in. And it seems to be an
Ohio problem because even though I lived in Poland a
couple of years ago, again it seemed to have this problem.

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But just to illustrate that, yesterday I was going to
the grocery store and there was a large reputable nursery,
you know, the one here in Columbus and throughout the
central area there was installing some trees and a car
park in a parking lot. A ginko blobis in little
like six by six plots in the middle of the
car park, which never mind, Okay, they just stuck the

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whole bloodything in there, didn't take off the bowl, app
didn't take off the while cage just left everything in
there and just piled some molch.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
On top of it.

Speaker 6 (34:39):
And I really think that because this doesn't happen, you know,
this doesn't happen in New Zealand. That was always in
the UK, and I didn't he listened to Germany and
I guess he lives in Poland. And I just I
don't know why that's such a big issue here for
improperly planted plants in Ohio. I mean, especially since this
is such a huge green industry state. I spent twenty
five years trying to figure this out.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Why that's true.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Hill That's too is that's a cultural thing that you know, frankly,
this industry has not really looked upon highly many of
the traites, and that number trying to change that. But
I think, you know, I can tell you, I can
tell you for a fact in the UK and in
New Zealand, it was it was a respected thing, and
here it's just kind of fop of it as a
job for high school kids, convicts and stoners you know

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so well, I think you know, I see that jokingly,
but I think there's some truth to that. At least
will be actual installers. I think that, you know, it's
it's also fans that me. You know, landscape companies are
a dime a dozen here. That's not true everywhere else, right,
so it may be a waste to the bottom in
terms of price.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
Got it. Well, there you go. That's Don's opinion. I
appreciate it. I'll tell you what I think I'm seeing
more and more good, good people coming out of school
probably focus more on the good practices, rewriting the things,
trying to get people educated. Of course, that's been our
old goal of the show, is to keep folks educated
as far as the proper ways to plants. So, you know,

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between us and the schools and the new kids coming
along and younger generations, hopefully we can continue to change
those practices. And you know, like I said earlier, like
Rom was pushing earlier, you know, to plant the right
tree in the right spot, the right way, and grow
the tree, not just plant the tree. Quick break. We
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