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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in the garden here
on news radio six ' ten wtvn A two to
one w TV and eight hundred and six to ten
w TV and talking about yarding on this extremely dry saturday.
No bucks today, that's good. I'm gonna give you a
chance to get out and do a little work in
the yard and garden. Yeah right, if you got a jackhammer, maybe,
(00:22):
but no, We've got lots to talk about. There are
things you can be doing out there right now. I
hope that you are watering as needed or as best
you can. We'll talk about that a little bit more
as we go through the show, but in the meantime,
right now, we're gonna kick it off with the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. That would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor
Commercial or Creachator Gear. But you don't have some university
(00:42):
study Good Today website Why do you laugh? Website is
a bygl dot OSU dot edu. Ladies and gentlemen, mister
Buggy Joe Boggs, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I love it at this time of the year. You
know you've done that so many times. I just like
the it just kind of mumbling is good? You know,
I do want to say this. Okay, the buck Eyes
may not play today, but it's still go bucks right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh absolutely, oh the time.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean I may end with that anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But that's okay. It's buck Eye season in with.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That every day every day.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, we are sixty five, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We are in some serious straits and parts of Ohio, aren't.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We we are? Yeah? Is that dire straits?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh? There you go. I love the guitar wrist on
that right, Mark Knoppler. I wait a second, we got
we kind of going off the subject didn't be there.
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you want your MTV?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I can see where this is heading. You know. Seriously, though,
we had a an in service this past week, several
of us spoke, you know, helping our extension colleagues to
be considering, you know what, some of those things we
need to be thinking about with this almost unprecedented droughts.
I mean, I realize we've had droughts in the past, right,
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and you know we've seen, but you know this is
this is becoming something in certain parts of Ohio. And
of course I know our favorite meteorologist Slash Arborius Ron
Roethis has spoken about this that, you know, the the
the extreme drought that is really unusual to see that
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when you look at the drought monitoring map and you
see this really deep I guess deep red Burgundy whatever.
That's almost apocalyptic, isn't it. Yeah? It is? It is.
So what are some things we need to be thinking about?
And my part of it was actually talking about pest management.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What I'm doing a drought.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, because stress trees attract bores for example. What yes? Yes.
So if you have, if if people have planted you know,
anything in the last few years, and that's that is.
And you and I have talked about this, this this
perception that newly planted means one season, right, but really
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newly planted now both Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, really, I don't. I don't consider that. I always
say at least two years.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, in some of the research shows five to seven.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, I say at least two years.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
At least two years.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
He starts going past Adamsonlan. Well, but it's seriously, you
know what we talk about, give it a year and
then then get yourself established and then blah, blah blah,
it's like a year.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, that's right, And of course, yeah, we also know
that that it also depends on, you know, the type
of plant what.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I mean, it's a container eye and you really yeah,
but but it is more than one year. And that's
the big point, right, And during that time, if that
tree be it a deciduous tree or conifer, although we're
a little more worried about a conifers. What I'm about
to say, if they if they become stressed, then they
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can be selected by various bark beetles and ambrosia beetles. Now,
these are really tiny beetles and they both make the
same size hole that they look like shotholes, just little
holes going into the tree. But bark beetles feed right
beneath the bark. They feed on what we call the
flow them just beneath the bark, so they turn and
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they kind of feed parallel to the you know, to
the bark, whereas ambrosia beetles go straight into the asyland.
The bottom line, though, is that a tree that is
not stressed can defend itself when they become stressed. A
good example would be let's say a white pine. You know,
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white pines, you know, have multiple levels of defense. There's
both chemical and physical. And we can kind of smell
the chemical defense, right the turbines, you know, you can
smell that coming from a pine. But we may also
experience the physical defense. You know, not that I want
people around there and use their pocket knife to cut
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into a pine tree, but if you ever do you
know that your knife, your fingers are going to get
covered in sap pretty quickly, right right, That's actually part
of the defense mechanism because those trees, when they're healthy,
when sap is flowing, they can use that sap to
push out bores as they're trying to enter. And it's
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actually called pitching out, and it's something that's been observed
for years and years. It's nothing new. But as soon
as that, as soon as the tree becomes stressed by
lack of moisture, that defense mechanism can stop. And here's
the important point. A research conducted by Dan Herms at
Ohio State many years ago showed that it could be reversed.
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So you might have a white pine, you might have
another pine that is drought stressed and now being attacked
by bark beetles. Because it's dropped, it can no longer
pitch out the beetles. But if water starts being applied,
then it can start regaining the defense. So that's extremely
important because sometimes people think, well, well, actually we often
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think and once a tree starts getting selected by bark beetles,
and it's done. And pretty much that's true because we
usually don't see the attack until it's well underway. Right however,
right now, I mean, if you've planted a conifer, and
now I'm going across the board, not just white pine
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or Scotch pine or any of the if you've planted
a conifer in the last few years, you really do
need to be giving it some water because all of
these kind of first kind of do the same thing.
And we don't want to then get the phone calls
and emails that you and I often get usually in
the spring following a drought, and that is, we have
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all these holes in my pine tree or in you know,
the put in the name you want to put in there.
What do I spray? And of course it's too late.
There's really nothing you can spray. As a matter of fact, truthfully,
there's not much that can be done in sect decidedly
because it all has to do with tree stress.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You know what we see that and say I've got
a group of mass planning of white pine, for instance,
and we've got three and five of them there one
of them, you know, sometimes and this happens a lot.
Sometimes one will just it'll it loses it, all right,
It dies and the other ones are still hanging in
there with their stress. But they're hanging in there. But
that one abs collapse, and so bark beetles are attracted
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to that one as it's collapsing. Right, Yeah, yeah, is
when that plant dies, I mean twofold one is sometimes
the bark beetles get the blame for that. Yeah yeah,
but is it you know, I've always said if that
thing dies like that, don't leave it sitting there.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's a good point, man, That is an excellent point.
You're exactly right. And let me go back to what
you just said though, because that's also important and can
confuse people that you might have the same species but
only one gets hit. I could be that, okay, just
in that spot and the landscaping it's a little tougher,
you know, maybe there's a little more clay right there.
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But it's also likely that just as if you're standing
in a group with ten people when something happens, it
may be that everybody doesn't react the same right because
of genetic variability, and so that that can that happens.
You know, some of these trees have better defenses, just
genetically selected. But you're exactly right, even though you know
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the surrounding trees have a defense, you don't want to
test it too hard, right because there is a there's
a well known bark beetle. Some of you, some listeners
may actually have experienced this or seen this, and it's
called the Southern pine bark beetle, and it will mass attack.
So it means, okay, the tree is not very stressed,
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but you have a large number of beetles coming in
at one time, and they hit the tree so fast
that they just cause it to become stressed by literally
kind of like bleeding out. So you don't want to leave.
If you hear exactly if you're seeing a conifer, it's
a if it's a spruce or a white pine and
it's turning brown and it's being attacked by bark beetles,
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get it out of there as soon as possible, because
you don't want to have all these bark beetles testing
the other trees. Great point bringing it up to the break, right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Thank you so much, ladies, John, thank you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
As a matter of fact, Barbie Bletcher, just email or
text me something. I'm going to talk about this when
we come back. Interesting fact that she brought up about
what the drought is also causing right now talking with
Buggy Joe Boggs here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
Barbie text se me a text right before the break
and she has a challenge for you. She sent an
email and she had her a text and said that
(10:21):
she has a challenge for you. She'd like you to
actually check out in the Cincinnati area. But she said
right now, as they look around with this drought going on,
that the golden rod which are starting to flower, are
not producing nectar.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
For the honeybees.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, she said, in central north and eastern Ohio. She'd
have Joe check it out in the Cincinnati area to
see what he sees down there. But you may see
other bees on the golden rod, but you're not seeing
honey bees on there, and that research is showing that
drought inhibits nectar production, especially in that Golden Rod.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Now that is really fascinating. I didn't know what I
was seeing last week, so let me I've already checked
it out, because you know, golden Rod is such I mean,
it is the late season nectar flow, right, you know
a lot of things stop looming and then the honeybees
and other pollinators. But just this past week, I was
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visiting from Golden Rod near my home, and you know,
I always do that just to check out what's coming
in get pictures, and oddly, yeah, I did not get
any pictures of honeybees, and I didn't know what was happening.
I was kind of thinking, well, you know, maybe they're
just going somewhere. Maybe this golden Rod is too far.
(11:40):
I mean, I had all kinds of ideas in my head,
but I did not know that. And that's really a
fascinating thing because there was something I was also going
to talk about. We're going to be out of time
before I can, but I'm going to be posting so
people can look at this. It'll be later today. I'll
be posting a bigle alert on rough Oak bullet gulls
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that produce nectar. They are well known nectar producers, and
they attract things like you know, well stinging insects that
protect the gall maker, the little wasp inside those galls,
you know, from predators. And what I'm seeing more this
year than I've seen the past are honeybees. So there's
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so now I'm I'm I'm so so Barbee challenged me
to take a look at golden rod, I'm now challenging
her take a look at different oak trees with rough
oak bullet galls, these little galls that are on the
on the twigs. I've never seen so many honey bees
coming into those. And now the downside is I got
(12:47):
a phone call just this past week and actually got
several emails and more than one phone call, but I
regarding you know, these trees buzzing with stinging insects, one
phone the phone call I just had yes to day
was the tree was located right next to a playground.
So let me just kind of very quickly cover this
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because it's I think because of the lack of things
being normal, maybe these stinging insects are coming in and
even larger numbers. Although you and I've seen this before,
they come into large numbers anyway, But what is exactly
going on and how much of a threat are these things? Well,
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they're not protecting their their their colonies. They're not like
bald face hornets are not very aggressive at all if
they're just out forging, because really there's no there's no
value in you know, flying at somebody and risking getting killed,
you know, while you know, by stinging them. But there's
a value to do that if you have a bald
face hornets nest a few feet away, right. But when
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we look at these buzzing trees, I've I mean I
can talk from experience because I've taken pictures you'll see
and you'll see pictures posted where I'm not using a
zoom lens I'm using it. I'm just using a standard
camera lens where I'm probably only about un less than
a foot away from the stinging insect, the hornet or
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paper was. Now occasionally they'll look up and say, don't
get too much closer. But they're not being aggressive, and
that's extremely important because you're not really risking getting stung. However,
it does point out a challenge if somebody has this
occurring and they think, well, maybe I'll spray the tree. Well,
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first of all, I don't know of an insecticide that
you're going to be using on a tree legally that
you can make that kind of application. But even more
concerning would be it's definitely not legal to make an
application that would kill honeybees, right, That's on every insecticide label.
It's mostly intended so people don't spray flowering plants. But
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this is kind of, you know, the end result here
is kind of the same idea. You know that aside
from the fact that you know, there really wouldn't be
an insecticide that would easily kill anything coming to these gulls.
But you know, it's just a cautionary statement. We don't
really have a good answer for that. But Barbie's question
(15:25):
is really very very it's very good on many different levels.
But I didn't know about the golden rods situation.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
She also said that sometimes that is not a sweet
or nutritious enough for honey bees, and she'll send you
the article about that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
On top of that, also, so there you go, that
Barbie back. What can you say about her?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know what I'm saying, Well, there you go, there
you go, and I always like that. You you for
years you called her Barbie because yeah, with honey bees.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And she referred to both of us as her good Josh.
She said, good job to both of my drones.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh goodness, thinks. Well, I look forward to getting the article.
That sounds fascinating and that does explain. I appreciate that
she did that because that does explain. Like I said,
one of the observations that I made, I guess it
was last Monday, and I come to think of it,
during our diagnostic walk about, but it was where are
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the honey bees? And then you know they're out there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Now we're gonna have to go find a seven sunflower
and see if they're on those.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I will definitely have to do that. And I missed
the opportunity because vun County Arburetam had a flowering one
as well as secrets arbure eat them, and maybe I didn't.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Maybe don't. Yeah, okay, well if you do, I'll see
if I find one out. Seriously, I'll take a look.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We got to go. Always great information, appreciate it. We
will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Go Bucks, Go Bucks. That's the way you do it.
So take care and have a goodness.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I love it. That's the way you do.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Take care all right, quick break, we come back. Phone
lines are open for you. Eight two to one wtv IN,
eight hundred and six to ten wtv And coming up
to the top of the hour, our good friend Melinda Myers.
We haven't had her on in a long time, finally
getting her back. Melinda Myers obviously from the Columbus, Ohio area,
a buck eye at heart living up in Wisconsin. Got
the badger T shirt on the outside, but we all
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know on the inside the brute is the buck guys
on the T shirt on the inside. Anyway, we're gonna
talk to me Linda Myers. Coming up the top of
the hour. Check out our websites melindameers dot com. Great information.
You'll find out what she's been up to, and she's
got some great tips to share with us as well.
Here on news radio six to ten WTVNH we're talking
to you ardy here on news radio six y ten
WTVN eight two to one wtv IN, eight hundred and
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six to ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It is dry, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't think that's I'm telling you anything New dryas
since what nineteen eighty eight, I think for the entire
state of Ohio and the Columbus, I think is even
looking back to nineteen thirties or something like that. But
it doesn't matter. It's dry in some areas have gotten
I talking with Teresa Parker and talking about it, got
an inch of rainfall that came through there before their
seven sunflower actually opened in Boom, you know, and hopefully
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gave you a little bit of moisture to add the
more nectar there. As Barbie Blutzer pointed out to us earlier,
drought conditions limits the amount of nectar that is produced
on plants as well. That's not a good thing for
the bees going into the fall and winter season. So
again another reason for you to get out there and
water as best you can. And again i'm you know,
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when we look at watering right now, and I'm talking
with Mike Elliott about this, I think yesterday and you
on prioritize in Chuck Douglass last week about prioritizing, prioritizing
what you're watering, and I still think you know lawns
right now to me, you know, unless you've been irrigating
and you've gotten timely rainfalls or whatever. A lot of
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them have just gone dormant, and that's okay. I think
the big thing with the lawn is if if you
can keep those crowns viable. The crowns are where the
roots come from at the bottom, and thelad the blades
come from at the top. That sits right at the soil,
right at the soil level, right there, and those crowns
are sitting there roots below and had blades above it.
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They're probably brown now. But if we can keep those
crowns viable, we don't want to fire them back up
and get them going again as far as growing unless
we know we've got good moisture coming in or you're
going to stick with it as far as watering. But
if you can give about a and I think doctor
Dave Gardner said something about a half an inch or
so less a quarter inch half an inch of the
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most about every two weeks, you'll keep those crowns viable
so that when we finally cool down and finally get
enough moisture in the ground that they can start to
regrow again and you don't have as much. You know,
you're still gonna have some thinned out areas, but not
as much as far as trying to recede or replace
in the turf. Because the crowns are able to start
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to regrow again. You don't want to apply enough and
often enough to get it to regrow unless you're committed
to sticking with it if it does. So, you're just
wanting to keep those crowns alive. So a quart of
an inch to a half an inch every two weeks
or so should keep that those viable enough to keep
you going until we get into the perfect weather. Otherwise,
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you know, I say kick out the lawn besides the crowns.
You know, I've pulled up pretty much everything around our
yard over the last week, just look annualised, because it's
just looking rough and tough, getting ready for planting fall colors,
moms and cabbage and kale and pansies and things like that.
But go ahead and pulling the annuals out so I
don't have to worry about watering them. I can use
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that water on. As Joe was said earlier, you know
newly planted trees and shrubs not just this year, but
two or three years. It takes a while for plants
to get established. I read that all the time where
they say, you know, give them that first year so
they get established and then you know, blah blah blah. Well,
it takes plants a lot longer than that, depending on
what it is, but a lot longer than that to
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get themselves quotation marks established. So you're still sticking with them.
But evergreens, especially, they cannot handle this type of thing
that's going on right now. Larger deciduous trees, obviously, what
you've planted this year, last year, a couple of years
that are newly planted are going to struggle. Work with
those as well. We can always replace some of the perennials.
We can always replace what's in the vegetable garden starting
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to poop out a little bit. We can always replace
those annuals. But please keep watering those evergreens. The larger trees,
you cannot replace those. It would cost you an arm
and a leg to have to remove them, and they
try to come back and replant. So the extra one
hundred bucks, two hundred bucks at whatever it takes to
water them and keep them alive is going to be
well worth it. You're investing in your investment, all right.
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You're investing in what you've invested in to keep it going,
keep it growing. So please stick with it. And unfortunately,
as you look around, I don't see a lot of
people out there doing watering under their evergreens or under
their larger trees. Maybe you are for the newly planted stuff,
but I don't see very much of it going on. Please,
I'm serious. It is dry out there. Your plants are thirsty.
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Please get out and join them for a drink or
two or three. Please quick break, we come back. More
tips to share with you coming up the top of
the hour. Melinda Myers always fun having Melenda in is
always a great gardening speaker. She travels all around the
country speaking about gardening, spreading the word.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
A tremendous speaker, but always great tips, great website. We'll
talk about that. Her book is one of the only
books that I've ever really recommended that I really like
as far as a general Midwest gardener handbook. This is
a good one, and I think she's in the second
edition as well. But we'll learn more about Melinda, truly
a buck eye at heart coming up at the top
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of the hour. In the meantime, you and me a two
to one WTVN here on news radio six to ten,
WTVN eight two to one, WTVN eight hundred and six
to ten, WTVN here on news radio six ten wtv
and home of the best Buckeye coverage. Of course, you
don't get that today because they're not playing today, but
we'll be back having at it next week and looking
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forward to it as well, don't forget. Coming up the
top of the hour, Milenda Myers will join us talking
about gardening. Is she has seen it to traveling around
the country this year. We'll find out if anything new
out there that she's seeing that's exciting that she would
like to share with us, and maybe we want to
think about putting in our yard and garden. Have some
other questions for her about putting away the garden at
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the end of the year. You know, we never talk
about composting too much on the show, and that doesn't
sound too exciting, does it. But there are some easy
ways to do that, I mean really easy ways, and
she had to mention a couple of them in her
newsletter this month, which, by the way, you can get
It's great information even though it's out of Wisconsin. Is
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very timely for us.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
As well.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's just a Melinda Myers dot com and you can
sign up get her newsletters and she has all kinds
of webinars and things like that, great informations. She is
one of those you know, you never sure sometimes when
you sign up for webinars or classes you know is
a good information? You know, can you trust what people
are saying? You can with Melinda And she is a
highly recommend her and that's why she's been on our
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show all of these years. But so busy this year,
we haven't been able to catch her at a time
where we could speak spend a little time with her.
But we did this morning, so we're looking forward to that.
Talking about the drought, talking about watering. I can't stress
it enough, very very important. I know a lot of
folks right now are saying, you know, we really wanted
to get some trees planted this fall. We really wanted
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to get some of those evergreens, planning for that screen,
planning to get rid of that neighbor peering into our
patio all the time. Maybe you needed to put you know,
you want to plan a new planning around the landscape
or whatever. Well, just because we're in this right now,
doesn't mean this is going to continue on through the
entire fall season. And I think the thing to remember
about fall planting, there are many great benefits to why
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we plant in the fall, Why it's such a great
time to get out and plant. And I'm talking September, October,
think about this November for sure, and in many cases December,
right because the weather sticks with us way up until
mid December with no problem whatsoever. So your planting season
is actually much longer in the fall than it is
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in the spring. And then you put that on there
and say okay, and then when you plant in the fall,
plants rooted in more in the fall, they get a
jumpstart on next spring. Again, so many great benefits. But
the fact that we do have more time, so right
now we can kind of ride this thing out till
the end of September. See what's going on, see what
the weather forecast that things are going to break, and
go from there. So we've got plenty of time, don't panic.
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Plenty of time to get out and plant.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
If you see that special tree or evergreen in your
local garden center, buy it, tag it, get it sold,
and be ready to plant as the weather breaks. But
We've got a couple months here that we can work
with at and get it the planet, so don't panic.
We have time to plant eight two one WTVN. That's
our number here on news radio six y ten WTVN
Speaker 3 (26:05):
HM
Good morning, everybody. Welcome.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
I'm Ron Wilson, and you are in the garden here
on news radio six ' ten wtvn A two to
one w TV and eight hundred and six to ten
w TV and talking about yarding on this extremely dry saturday.
No bucks today, that's good. I'm gonna give you a
chance to get out and do a little work in
the yard and garden. Yeah right, if you got a jackhammer, maybe,
(00:22):
but no, We've got lots to talk about. There are
things you can be doing out there right now. I
hope that you are watering as needed or as best
you can. We'll talk about that a little bit more
as we go through the show, but in the meantime,
right now, we're gonna kick it off with the Buggy
Joe Boggs Report. That would be Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor
Commercial or Creachator Gear. But you don't have some university
(00:42):
study Good Today website Why do you laugh? Website is
a bygl dot OSU dot edu. Ladies and gentlemen, mister
Buggy Joe Boggs, Good morning, sir.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I love it at this time of the year. You
know you've done that so many times. I just like
the it just kind of mumbling is good? You know,
I do want to say this. Okay, the buck Eyes
may not play today, but it's still go bucks right.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Oh absolutely, oh the time.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I mean I may end with that anyway.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
But that's okay. It's buck Eye season in with.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
That every day every day.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
You know, we are sixty five, It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
We are in some serious straits and parts of Ohio, aren't.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
We we are? Yeah? Is that dire straits?
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Oh? There you go. I love the guitar wrist on
that right, Mark Knoppler. I wait a second, we got
we kind of going off the subject didn't be there.
I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Do you want your MTV?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
I can see where this is heading. You know. Seriously, though,
we had a an in service this past week, several
of us spoke, you know, helping our extension colleagues to
be considering, you know what, some of those things we
need to be thinking about with this almost unprecedented droughts.
I mean, I realize we've had droughts in the past, right,
(02:09):
and you know we've seen, but you know this is
this is becoming something in certain parts of Ohio. And
of course I know our favorite meteorologist Slash Arborius Ron
Roethis has spoken about this that, you know, the the
the extreme drought that is really unusual to see that
(02:35):
when you look at the drought monitoring map and you
see this really deep I guess deep red Burgundy whatever.
That's almost apocalyptic, isn't it. Yeah? It is? It is.
So what are some things we need to be thinking about?
And my part of it was actually talking about pest management.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
What I'm doing a drought.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
Yes, because stress trees attract bores for example. What yes? Yes.
So if you have, if if people have planted you know,
anything in the last few years, and that's that is.
And you and I have talked about this, this this
perception that newly planted means one season, right, but really
(03:23):
newly planted now both Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
No, really, I don't. I don't consider that. I always
say at least two years.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, in some of the research shows five to seven.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Well, I say at least two years.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
At least two years.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
He starts going past Adamsonlan. Well, but it's seriously, you
know what we talk about, give it a year and
then then get yourself established and then blah, blah blah,
it's like a year.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
No, that's right, And of course, yeah, we also know
that that it also depends on, you know, the type
of plant what.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I mean, it's a container eye and you really yeah,
but but it is more than one year. And that's
the big point, right, And during that time, if that
tree be it a deciduous tree or conifer, although we're
a little more worried about a conifers. What I'm about
to say, if they if they become stressed, then they
(04:20):
can be selected by various bark beetles and ambrosia beetles. Now,
these are really tiny beetles and they both make the
same size hole that they look like shotholes, just little
holes going into the tree. But bark beetles feed right
beneath the bark. They feed on what we call the
flow them just beneath the bark, so they turn and
(04:40):
they kind of feed parallel to the you know, to
the bark, whereas ambrosia beetles go straight into the asyland.
The bottom line, though, is that a tree that is
not stressed can defend itself when they become stressed. A
good example would be let's say a white pine. You know,
(05:01):
white pines, you know, have multiple levels of defense. There's
both chemical and physical. And we can kind of smell
the chemical defense, right the turbines, you know, you can
smell that coming from a pine. But we may also
experience the physical defense. You know, not that I want
people around there and use their pocket knife to cut
(05:22):
into a pine tree, but if you ever do you
know that your knife, your fingers are going to get
covered in sap pretty quickly, right right, That's actually part
of the defense mechanism because those trees, when they're healthy,
when sap is flowing, they can use that sap to
push out bores as they're trying to enter. And it's
(05:44):
actually called pitching out, and it's something that's been observed
for years and years. It's nothing new. But as soon
as that, as soon as the tree becomes stressed by
lack of moisture, that defense mechanism can stop. And here's
the important point. A research conducted by Dan Herms at
Ohio State many years ago showed that it could be reversed.
(06:08):
So you might have a white pine, you might have
another pine that is drought stressed and now being attacked
by bark beetles. Because it's dropped, it can no longer
pitch out the beetles. But if water starts being applied,
then it can start regaining the defense. So that's extremely
important because sometimes people think, well, well, actually we often
(06:32):
think and once a tree starts getting selected by bark beetles,
and it's done. And pretty much that's true because we
usually don't see the attack until it's well underway. Right however,
right now, I mean, if you've planted a conifer, and
now I'm going across the board, not just white pine
(06:54):
or Scotch pine or any of the if you've planted
a conifer in the last few years, you really do
need to be giving it some water because all of
these kind of first kind of do the same thing.
And we don't want to then get the phone calls
and emails that you and I often get usually in
the spring following a drought, and that is, we have
(07:15):
all these holes in my pine tree or in you know,
the put in the name you want to put in there.
What do I spray? And of course it's too late.
There's really nothing you can spray. As a matter of fact, truthfully,
there's not much that can be done in sect decidedly
because it all has to do with tree stress.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
You know what we see that and say I've got
a group of mass planning of white pine, for instance,
and we've got three and five of them there one
of them, you know, sometimes and this happens a lot.
Sometimes one will just it'll it loses it, all right,
It dies and the other ones are still hanging in
there with their stress. But they're hanging in there. But
that one abs collapse, and so bark beetles are attracted
(08:00):
to that one as it's collapsing. Right, Yeah, yeah, is
when that plant dies, I mean twofold one is sometimes
the bark beetles get the blame for that. Yeah yeah,
but is it you know, I've always said if that
thing dies like that, don't leave it sitting there.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
That's a good point, man, That is an excellent point.
You're exactly right. And let me go back to what
you just said though, because that's also important and can
confuse people that you might have the same species but
only one gets hit. I could be that, okay, just
in that spot and the landscaping it's a little tougher,
you know, maybe there's a little more clay right there.
(08:40):
But it's also likely that just as if you're standing
in a group with ten people when something happens, it
may be that everybody doesn't react the same right because
of genetic variability, and so that that can that happens.
You know, some of these trees have better defenses, just
genetically selected. But you're exactly right, even though you know
(09:02):
the surrounding trees have a defense, you don't want to
test it too hard, right because there is a there's
a well known bark beetle. Some of you, some listeners
may actually have experienced this or seen this, and it's
called the Southern pine bark beetle, and it will mass attack.
So it means, okay, the tree is not very stressed,
(09:23):
but you have a large number of beetles coming in
at one time, and they hit the tree so fast
that they just cause it to become stressed by literally
kind of like bleeding out. So you don't want to leave.
If you hear exactly if you're seeing a conifer, it's
a if it's a spruce or a white pine and
it's turning brown and it's being attacked by bark beetles,
(09:45):
get it out of there as soon as possible, because
you don't want to have all these bark beetles testing
the other trees. Great point bringing it up to the break, right.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Thank you so much, ladies, John, thank you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
As a matter of fact, Barbie Bletcher, just email or
text me something. I'm going to talk about this when
we come back. Interesting fact that she brought up about
what the drought is also causing right now talking with
Buggy Joe Boggs here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
Barbie text se me a text right before the break
and she has a challenge for you. She sent an
email and she had her a text and said that
(10:21):
she has a challenge for you. She'd like you to
actually check out in the Cincinnati area. But she said
right now, as they look around with this drought going on,
that the golden rod which are starting to flower, are
not producing nectar.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
For the honeybees.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Yeah, she said, in central north and eastern Ohio. She'd
have Joe check it out in the Cincinnati area to
see what he sees down there. But you may see
other bees on the golden rod, but you're not seeing
honey bees on there, and that research is showing that
drought inhibits nectar production, especially in that Golden Rod.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Now that is really fascinating. I didn't know what I
was seeing last week, so let me I've already checked
it out, because you know, golden Rod is such I mean,
it is the late season nectar flow, right, you know
a lot of things stop looming and then the honeybees
and other pollinators. But just this past week, I was
(11:20):
visiting from Golden Rod near my home, and you know,
I always do that just to check out what's coming
in get pictures, and oddly, yeah, I did not get
any pictures of honeybees, and I didn't know what was happening.
I was kind of thinking, well, you know, maybe they're
just going somewhere. Maybe this golden Rod is too far.
(11:40):
I mean, I had all kinds of ideas in my head,
but I did not know that. And that's really a
fascinating thing because there was something I was also going
to talk about. We're going to be out of time
before I can, but I'm going to be posting so
people can look at this. It'll be later today. I'll
be posting a bigle alert on rough Oak bullet gulls
(12:02):
that produce nectar. They are well known nectar producers, and
they attract things like you know, well stinging insects that
protect the gall maker, the little wasp inside those galls,
you know, from predators. And what I'm seeing more this
year than I've seen the past are honeybees. So there's
(12:24):
so now I'm I'm I'm so so Barbee challenged me
to take a look at golden rod, I'm now challenging
her take a look at different oak trees with rough
oak bullet galls, these little galls that are on the
on the twigs. I've never seen so many honey bees
coming into those. And now the downside is I got
(12:47):
a phone call just this past week and actually got
several emails and more than one phone call, but I
regarding you know, these trees buzzing with stinging insects, one
phone the phone call I just had yes to day
was the tree was located right next to a playground.
So let me just kind of very quickly cover this
(13:08):
because it's I think because of the lack of things
being normal, maybe these stinging insects are coming in and
even larger numbers. Although you and I've seen this before,
they come into large numbers anyway, But what is exactly
going on and how much of a threat are these things? Well,
(13:29):
they're not protecting their their their colonies. They're not like
bald face hornets are not very aggressive at all if
they're just out forging, because really there's no there's no
value in you know, flying at somebody and risking getting killed,
you know, while you know, by stinging them. But there's
a value to do that if you have a bald
face hornets nest a few feet away, right. But when
(13:53):
we look at these buzzing trees, I've I mean I
can talk from experience because I've taken pictures you'll see
and you'll see pictures posted where I'm not using a
zoom lens I'm using it. I'm just using a standard
camera lens where I'm probably only about un less than
a foot away from the stinging insect, the hornet or
(14:16):
paper was. Now occasionally they'll look up and say, don't
get too much closer. But they're not being aggressive, and
that's extremely important because you're not really risking getting stung. However,
it does point out a challenge if somebody has this
occurring and they think, well, maybe I'll spray the tree. Well,
(14:37):
first of all, I don't know of an insecticide that
you're going to be using on a tree legally that
you can make that kind of application. But even more
concerning would be it's definitely not legal to make an
application that would kill honeybees, right, That's on every insecticide label.
It's mostly intended so people don't spray flowering plants. But
(15:02):
this is kind of, you know, the end result here
is kind of the same idea. You know that aside
from the fact that you know, there really wouldn't be
an insecticide that would easily kill anything coming to these gulls.
But you know, it's just a cautionary statement. We don't
really have a good answer for that. But Barbie's question
(15:25):
is really very very it's very good on many different levels.
But I didn't know about the golden rods situation.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
She also said that sometimes that is not a sweet
or nutritious enough for honey bees, and she'll send you
the article about that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
That's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
On top of that, also, so there you go, that
Barbie back. What can you say about her?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
You know what I'm saying, Well, there you go, there
you go, and I always like that. You you for
years you called her Barbie because yeah, with honey bees.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
And she referred to both of us as her good Josh.
She said, good job to both of my drones.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Oh goodness, thinks. Well, I look forward to getting the article.
That sounds fascinating and that does explain. I appreciate that
she did that because that does explain. Like I said,
one of the observations that I made, I guess it
was last Monday, and I come to think of it,
during our diagnostic walk about, but it was where are
(16:23):
the honey bees? And then you know they're out there.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Now we're gonna have to go find a seven sunflower
and see if they're on those.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I will definitely have to do that. And I missed
the opportunity because vun County Arburetam had a flowering one
as well as secrets arbure eat them, and maybe I didn't.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Maybe don't. Yeah, okay, well if you do, I'll see
if I find one out. Seriously, I'll take a look.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Joe.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
We got to go. Always great information, appreciate it. We
will talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Go Bucks, Go Bucks. That's the way you do it.
So take care and have a goodness.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I love it. That's the way you do.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
It on TV.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Take care all right, quick break, we come back. Phone
lines are open for you. Eight two to one wtv IN,
eight hundred and six to ten wtv And coming up
to the top of the hour, our good friend Melinda Myers.
We haven't had her on in a long time, finally
getting her back. Melinda Myers obviously from the Columbus, Ohio area,
a buck eye at heart living up in Wisconsin. Got
the badger T shirt on the outside, but we all
(17:21):
know on the inside the brute is the buck guys
on the T shirt on the inside. Anyway, we're gonna
talk to me Linda Myers. Coming up the top of
the hour. Check out our websites melindameers dot com. Great information.
You'll find out what she's been up to, and she's
got some great tips to share with us as well.
Here on news radio six to ten WTVNH we're talking
to you ardy here on news radio six y ten
WTVN eight two to one wtv IN, eight hundred and
(17:44):
six to ten WTVN.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It is dry, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I don't think that's I'm telling you anything New dryas
since what nineteen eighty eight, I think for the entire
state of Ohio and the Columbus, I think is even
looking back to nineteen thirties or something like that. But
it doesn't matter. It's dry in some areas have gotten
I talking with Teresa Parker and talking about it, got
an inch of rainfall that came through there before their
seven sunflower actually opened in Boom, you know, and hopefully
(18:12):
gave you a little bit of moisture to add the
more nectar there. As Barbie Blutzer pointed out to us earlier,
drought conditions limits the amount of nectar that is produced
on plants as well. That's not a good thing for
the bees going into the fall and winter season. So
again another reason for you to get out there and
water as best you can. And again i'm you know,
(18:33):
when we look at watering right now, and I'm talking
with Mike Elliott about this, I think yesterday and you
on prioritize in Chuck Douglass last week about prioritizing, prioritizing
what you're watering, and I still think you know lawns
right now to me, you know, unless you've been irrigating
and you've gotten timely rainfalls or whatever. A lot of
(18:54):
them have just gone dormant, and that's okay. I think
the big thing with the lawn is if if you
can keep those crowns viable. The crowns are where the
roots come from at the bottom, and thelad the blades
come from at the top. That sits right at the soil,
right at the soil level, right there, and those crowns
are sitting there roots below and had blades above it.
(19:17):
They're probably brown now. But if we can keep those
crowns viable, we don't want to fire them back up
and get them going again as far as growing unless
we know we've got good moisture coming in or you're
going to stick with it as far as watering. But
if you can give about a and I think doctor
Dave Gardner said something about a half an inch or
so less a quarter inch half an inch of the
(19:39):
most about every two weeks, you'll keep those crowns viable
so that when we finally cool down and finally get
enough moisture in the ground that they can start to
regrow again and you don't have as much. You know,
you're still gonna have some thinned out areas, but not
as much as far as trying to recede or replace
in the turf. Because the crowns are able to start
(19:59):
to regrow again. You don't want to apply enough and
often enough to get it to regrow unless you're committed
to sticking with it if it does. So, you're just
wanting to keep those crowns alive. So a quart of
an inch to a half an inch every two weeks
or so should keep that those viable enough to keep
you going until we get into the perfect weather. Otherwise,
(20:19):
you know, I say kick out the lawn besides the crowns.
You know, I've pulled up pretty much everything around our
yard over the last week, just look annualised, because it's
just looking rough and tough, getting ready for planting fall colors,
moms and cabbage and kale and pansies and things like that.
But go ahead and pulling the annuals out so I
don't have to worry about watering them. I can use
(20:41):
that water on. As Joe was said earlier, you know
newly planted trees and shrubs not just this year, but
two or three years. It takes a while for plants
to get established. I read that all the time where
they say, you know, give them that first year so
they get established and then you know, blah blah blah. Well,
it takes plants a lot longer than that, depending on
what it is, but a lot longer than that to
(21:01):
get themselves quotation marks established. So you're still sticking with them.
But evergreens, especially, they cannot handle this type of thing
that's going on right now. Larger deciduous trees, obviously, what
you've planted this year, last year, a couple of years
that are newly planted are going to struggle. Work with
those as well. We can always replace some of the perennials.
We can always replace what's in the vegetable garden starting
(21:23):
to poop out a little bit. We can always replace
those annuals. But please keep watering those evergreens. The larger trees,
you cannot replace those. It would cost you an arm
and a leg to have to remove them, and they
try to come back and replant. So the extra one
hundred bucks, two hundred bucks at whatever it takes to
water them and keep them alive is going to be
well worth it. You're investing in your investment, all right.
(21:46):
You're investing in what you've invested in to keep it going,
keep it growing. So please stick with it. And unfortunately,
as you look around, I don't see a lot of
people out there doing watering under their evergreens or under
their larger trees. Maybe you are for the newly planted stuff,
but I don't see very much of it going on. Please,
I'm serious. It is dry out there. Your plants are thirsty.
(22:08):
Please get out and join them for a drink or
two or three. Please quick break, we come back. More
tips to share with you coming up the top of
the hour. Melinda Myers always fun having Melenda in is
always a great gardening speaker. She travels all around the
country speaking about gardening, spreading the word.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
A tremendous speaker, but always great tips, great website. We'll
talk about that. Her book is one of the only
books that I've ever really recommended that I really like
as far as a general Midwest gardener handbook. This is
a good one, and I think she's in the second
edition as well. But we'll learn more about Melinda, truly
a buck eye at heart coming up at the top
(22:48):
of the hour. In the meantime, you and me a two
to one WTVN here on news radio six to ten,
WTVN eight two to one, WTVN eight hundred and six
to ten, WTVN here on news radio six ten wtv
and home of the best Buckeye coverage. Of course, you
don't get that today because they're not playing today, but
we'll be back having at it next week and looking
(23:09):
forward to it as well, don't forget. Coming up the
top of the hour, Milenda Myers will join us talking
about gardening. Is she has seen it to traveling around
the country this year. We'll find out if anything new
out there that she's seeing that's exciting that she would
like to share with us, and maybe we want to
think about putting in our yard and garden. Have some
other questions for her about putting away the garden at
(23:30):
the end of the year. You know, we never talk
about composting too much on the show, and that doesn't
sound too exciting, does it. But there are some easy
ways to do that, I mean really easy ways, and
she had to mention a couple of them in her
newsletter this month, which, by the way, you can get
It's great information even though it's out of Wisconsin. Is
(23:51):
very timely for us.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
As well.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
It's just a Melinda Myers dot com and you can
sign up get her newsletters and she has all kinds
of webinars and things like that, great informations. She is
one of those you know, you never sure sometimes when
you sign up for webinars or classes you know is
a good information? You know, can you trust what people
are saying? You can with Melinda And she is a
highly recommend her and that's why she's been on our
(24:14):
show all of these years. But so busy this year,
we haven't been able to catch her at a time
where we could speak spend a little time with her.
But we did this morning, so we're looking forward to that.
Talking about the drought, talking about watering. I can't stress
it enough, very very important. I know a lot of
folks right now are saying, you know, we really wanted
to get some trees planted this fall. We really wanted
(24:36):
to get some of those evergreens, planning for that screen,
planning to get rid of that neighbor peering into our
patio all the time. Maybe you needed to put you know,
you want to plan a new planning around the landscape
or whatever. Well, just because we're in this right now,
doesn't mean this is going to continue on through the
entire fall season. And I think the thing to remember
about fall planting, there are many great benefits to why
(24:59):
we plant in the fall, Why it's such a great
time to get out and plant. And I'm talking September, October,
think about this November for sure, and in many cases December,
right because the weather sticks with us way up until
mid December with no problem whatsoever. So your planting season
is actually much longer in the fall than it is
(25:19):
in the spring. And then you put that on there
and say okay, and then when you plant in the fall,
plants rooted in more in the fall, they get a
jumpstart on next spring. Again, so many great benefits. But
the fact that we do have more time, so right
now we can kind of ride this thing out till
the end of September. See what's going on, see what
the weather forecast that things are going to break, and
go from there. So we've got plenty of time, don't panic.
(25:42):
Plenty of time to get out and plant.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
If you see that special tree or evergreen in your
local garden center, buy it, tag it, get it sold,
and be ready to plant as the weather breaks. But
We've got a couple months here that we can work
with at and get it the planet, so don't panic.
We have time to plant eight two one WTVN. That's
our number here on news radio six y ten WTVN
Speaker 3 (26:05):
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