The Franklin Soil and Water Conservation District Tree Sale

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson and you are
in the garden. You're on news radio six' TEN wtvn
eight two to ONE wtvn eight hundred and six to
TEN wtvn talking about yardening on this first day Of.
March we'll call it the first day of spring because
it is the first day of the meteorological. Spring we'll take,
that and of course the astrological one happens when about

(00:21):
the twentieth or twenty second somewhere around. There But i'll
take this. One what do you? Say and what a
better way to kick off our show this, morning the
first Of spring for twenty twenty, five with our special
guests from The Franklin soil And Water Conservation. District obviously
their Website FRANKLIN swcd dot. Org she is their public outreach.
Coordinator fresh from she just came back from an owl

(00:45):
watching trip in Sacks, Zimbog. Minnesota ladies and, Gentlemen corey
said mac ind morning.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Introduction thank You.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Ryan, Hey so before we even get, started you gotta
tell me about this owl.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Trip, yeah it was pretty. Amazing so this year it
was a really good year for owls In. Minnesota something.
Happened it's called an, eruption not like a volcanic, eruption
but eruption with AN I i are r, Uption and
that happens when there's kind of an excess of. Rodents

(01:19):
way up in the boreal forest Of. Canada the owls
have a really good. Year they're, young have really good
survival rates because they have plenty of. Food but then
once winter rolls, around they don't like competing for. Food
it gets a lot harder to, find so a lot
of them move down south and. South if you're a
boreal owl like a great gray, owl or there is

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actually a species called a boreal owl is Northern.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Minnesota and is this our watching? Trip does this happen every?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
Year so there are a lot of people who will
go up to that area In february just to kind
of see these boreal birds come. Down but the owl
eruptions usually happen on a psych about every four to five,
years as populations do what they call boom and.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Bust all, Right, corey now you got to tell, Them
so how did you find out about things like?

Speaker 2 (02:09):
This, yeah so a lot of people in the birding
community will post cool pictures from up there you can
usually find the birds on the, roadside so they're pretty.
CLOSE i also have a good friend who lives up
in The minnesota area in The Twin cities who is
happy to show us, around so that encouraged us to
go up there as.

Speaker 1 (02:29):
WELL i did a garden center tour up there about
four or five years, ago and it was the first
TIME i spent time In Saint paul And. Minneapolis that
was absolutely. GORGEOUS i loved it there with all the
lakes and all the towns around the lakes and. Stuff of,
course eight forty five in the summertime you have to
go back inside because the state bird comes out and

(02:50):
drives you back inside the inside the. Building but other
than that it was it was pretty. Cool So zach's
zimbag BECAUSE i wouldn't think of going To minnesota in
the middle of the.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Winter, yeah most people probably, would not only.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Only, You corey Said.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
Mac there's quite a few people who do go Up
it's not just. Me there's some other crazy folks up there,
too all.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
RIGHT i HAD i had a truck driver listens to
the show and he was he was kidding the other.
DAY i don't know if you're going to be back
on because he remembered us talking about your prairie. Chicken
yeah venture out To, kansas and he, SAID i did.
THAT i did that. Once tell HER i did that.
Once it's.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Amazing, YEAH i.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Mean people do talking With, corey Said Mac franklin sold
In Water Conservation district At franklin swcd dot. Org so
we last time we Had john back In, january you
had just kicked off the twenty twenty five tree and plant.
Sale how is that?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Going it's going. Great we have sold out of a couple.
THINGS i think our most popular things were the. Blueberries
we only do those every few, years so those are sold.
Out we sold out a, sassafras which is. Interesting apparently
that's not a common tree in the nursery, industry so
we had those sell out pretty. Quick and THEN i

(04:07):
think our prairie seed packet is sold, out but we
still have a lot of stuff available as. Well the
THING i feel Like i've been talking about most is
Our shoemart oak. PACKET i think it's a really underrated.
Tree it's kind of LIKE i think of it as
a red oak analog to swamp white. Oak swamp white.
OAK i think has gotten this reputation. Recently is a

(04:28):
really great urban. Tree it's tolerant of, pollution even a
little bit of, salt and it's fast. Growing And shoemart
oak is very much the same. Way it's really nice
tree for like parking lot areas or areas where you
might have a lot of concrete and not as much.
Soil and it's a really, beautiful fast growing oak.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Tree.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah and if you, like if you like looking like
a pinoak at, all Shoe mark's a much better. Tree.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah and they have a lot of winter interest. TOO
i have one in my. Yard it's still got a
lot of its leaves on from, fall and it seems
like the, birds like the bluebirds and, things enjoy picking
around in the leaves trying to find any bugs left.
OVER i love.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
It you know that you're talking about the sassafras not
being available from ONE i. UNDERSTAND i guess it's it's
a little harder to grow in the, nursery and of
course the demand hasn't always been, there BUT i think
now that you, know folks looking more for these native
trees and something. Different and of course that leaf on
that sassafras is pretty. COOL i can see an increased.

(05:29):
Interest BUT I i know we in our nursery have tried
growing it and and it does, okay but it takes
a while to get that thing rooted in in a
container and that AND i guess that's one of the
reasons why you just don't see it as much sold
on the. Market but, again you had it there with
that's with the. Yours that's that's the Great and those
are those trees are about how tall when you buy.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Those most of the trees are usually just between a
foot and two feet. Tall sometimes they're a little taller than,
that but there are little. Guys they grow up pretty quick.
Though we do a lot of, Them like WHEN i
buy Pap, pause they'll bill double in size within two
or three years or so and then kind of grow
real fast after.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
That and you show a Paw pause, available we.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Do we have plenty of Pap pause available Per simmons.
Two if you're a fruit, person if you want to
get really, unique we have alleghany, plum which if you've
never had a wild, plum they that's an interesting. EXPERIENCE
i feel like you never quite know what you're going
to get from a wild. Plums some of them are
really sweet and some of them are really tark.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Well AND i have to omit this FOR i didn't
know anything about a wild plumb until. YOU i saw
this with your on your, sale and you AND i
talked about it the last time we had you on the.
Show that's the FIRST i wasn't aware of that. Either.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah they're pretty fun little, trees and their populations
out in the wild are. Declining they used to be
really uh popular trees along fence rows in farm and
as those fence rows get torn down to make the fields,
bigger we're losing a lot of our wild.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Plums, yeah BECAUSE i, know AND i may have seen them,
before but some reason it just did not ring a
bell with me at all UNTIL i had seen. That
so pretty. Cool so, anyway you can still order these plants.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
Through march twenty third is the last day to put
your order.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
In so you got three more weeks to put your
order in and then pickup is On april the eleventh and. Twelfth.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yep, yeah that is at our office in Grim View,
heights right off six. Seventies you know where The Grand
View pool. Is we are just two buildings down.

Speaker 1 (07:27):
From, there and you won't be there because you'll be
watching what bird that. WEEKEND i will be.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
THERE i will actually be there this. YEAR i missed
it for The Prairie Chicken festival last, year but this
YEAR i will be.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
There she promises to be. There so you can Meet,
corey said mac at the when you go to pick
up your. Trees but, again go to the Website FRANKLIN
swcd dot org Forard Slash tree And Plant sale and
pull up their. Website it's and the list and it's,
phenomenal a great list for, you especially if you're looking
to put those native trees in your. Yard and of
course the theme this year was bringing color to your,

(08:01):
backyard and there's a lot of great plants in. Here
they're going to give you a great, color help out the,
pollinators the, bees the, butterflies the, birds the wildlife in
the whole nine yards for a very, good very good.
Cost and the costs are, great and the diversity that
you're going to get awarding plants out this will be
phenomenal as, Well so be sure and check that. Out
before we take a. Break you were talking about the

(08:22):
owls and, stuff AND i know you still we work
with the raptors and all of. That can you give
me a quick update black. Vultures you, know we've always
had the red headed vultures as that says that the
turkey vulture correct all, Right, now all of a, sudden
you were contending to see more and more of the black,
vulture which is a little, smaller AND i always thought they.

(08:44):
Were they kind of came in and were like the
clean up. Crew why are we seeing more of those
all of a sudden in the state Of.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Ohio, yeah a lot of that seems to just be
the warmer. Winters so the since basically since our growing
season is a little longer or are days without freezing,
temperatures we're having more of. Them they are able to
kind of expand up. North they've been seen as far
north as The Lake, shore BUT i think as far

(09:13):
as big, numbers mostly see them like around like the.
Lakes they seem to love big lakes Like Indian, Lake Deer.
CREEK i think there's a bunch of them those types of.
Places but, yeah they can be a little, troublesome a
little more troublesome than turkey. Vultures they really like to
pick at like the rubber and plastic pieces on. Cars

(09:36):
SO i would highly recommend not parking your car if
you see these guys hanging. Around i've seen some state
parks actually have bins full of tarps for people to
put over their cars just because the black vultures like
to sit on top of them and just tug at
those rubber.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
Pieces.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, yeah they're playful little things that they're a little.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Destructive well DID i DIDN'T i read last year because
typically they are clean, up you know that the things are.
Doing but DIDN'T i see that some of the farmers
were reporting that they actually had gotten involved with new
born like. Lambs.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
Yeah, yeah it's a pretty rare. Situation but if there
is a big block of them and there is you,
know kind of like an easy picking, situation like a
freshly born livestock, animal they have been known to kind
of take take those down, basically which turkey vultures do not.
Do it's just the black, Vultures and it doesn't seem

(10:31):
like it's something that happens all the, time, Right and
it's SOMETHING i think like a lot of times the
herd of cows will be able to scare them off
if they see that. Happening but every once in a,
while it does. Happen if farmers have that, ISSUE i
highly recommend calling YOUR usda AND rcs. Person they have
some really interesting ideas for trying to prevent.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
That talking With, corey Said mackie issues the public outreach
coordinator obviously for The Frankly soil And Water Conservation. District
It's FRANKLIN swcd dot. Org quick, brick we come. Back
we got lots more to talk With corey here in
the garden With Ron wilson on News radio six TEN
wtvn talk on your ardening here on news radio six'
Ten wtv and it's the first day, Of, spring march

(11:14):
the first, meteorological spring and how a lot a better
way to kick it off And, having corey said Mack
From franklin Soil And Water. Conservation DISTRICT with us tree
sales still, going on be sure to go to their
website check. It out all kinds of great plants on
there that you may want to use in your own
back you, all RIGHT so i got to get your orders.
In soon are you going to be part of the
judging for the conservation? Poster, CONTEST yes.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
I am i love doing that. Every year that's so.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
MUCH fun I think i could do that and entered
under a. Student's name go.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
FOR it, i mean it's worth.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
A TRY should i give that? A? TRY yeah i love.
That one, Last year Trees. ARE kind i thought that was.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Pretty cool, oh yeah that. Was, amazing yeah and then
we Had A star wars one that was also also.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Quite good so if you have a Child the great's
k through twelve and they want to do this, poster
contest make. A poster go to their, website Again The
franklin Still And Water conservation district's post or a website
and check in for the twenty twenty five. Poster contest
and that's going to Be over, april eleven so you
have to hurry up on. THAT one i also want to.

(12:20):
SAY you, i get obviously your newsletters and All That
backyard Conversation in february about The wetlands nature's. Kidneys outstanding
i'm glad you.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Liked.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
That yeah My coworker mikaela puts Together The backyard, conversation
newsletter and she always does a. Great job there's always
all kinds of cool stuff packed. In there she also
does a little poll at, the end which is always
fun to see what people are thinking about about their. Yardening,
HABITS yeah i.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Like that but the way she, described it the graphics
and calling it the nature's kidneys, AND kidneys i thought
that was. ABSOLUTELY brilliant i think she did a great job, And,
anybody yeah you should go on if you have don't,
get that go on, their website get signed up.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
For.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
IT now i know you you had mentioned that your
monthly Topic in march.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Green infrastructure, mm, hmmm yeah which wetlands can be an
example of. Green infrastructure so?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
What what what? Are we are you out getting classes
on this?

Speaker 3 (13:17):
Or so we will.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Be soon usually our classes Kickoff Around. Earth day we
do in. Person classes you can actually get a rebate
for attending them on a, rain barrel a, compost bin or,
native plants and we also do rain garden rebates of
two hundred and fifty bucks which rain gardens are a
type of. Green infrastructure it's essentially a garden that you

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plant in a shallow hole in, the ground so. You
dig usually it's a four to six. Inch hole our
office can help with things like sizing and routing the
water into, the garden but usually folks route like a
downspout into, the garden and that water will soak into
that little garden in, the ground usually in less than forty,

(14:05):
eight hours and so that keeps the water that will
normally run off your roof go down the storm drain
lead to things like erosion and flooding right there on,
your property and puts it to use watering the plants
in the.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Rain, garden YEAH and i think that what's interesting. About
this somebody asked me the day that we're taught there
considering doing a, rain garden and it, was, like well
HOW do i get plants? Around there if it's going
to be wet and then it's going to, Be dry
it's probably gonna be dry more of the time than
it's going to. Be WET and, i said that's the
whole key with rain guarding, and planting is that you
use of plants that can take.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Both, conditions yeah and there are a surprising number of plants.
That can we always like to recommend, native plants obviously
for the, habitat benefit but there's even non native perennials
and trees and shrubs that do great in a rain
garden in that sort of situation where, you know sometimes
they're underwater for a day, or two and then they might,

(14:58):
you know go through a drought for a month, or
too and they will survive that. Just fine the root
systems of a lot of perennials are a lot deeper
than we tend to think. They are they're, really deep,
super fibrous so they can soak up water from way
down deep and keep themselves alive through.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
The drought and, you KNOW when i think about, rain gardens,
YOU know i think we really started to hear about
rain gardens probably fifteen or longer, years ago and every
year you hear about a little, bit more a little.
Bit more are you seeing a nice increase in folks
in their backyards wanting to install these?

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Rain, gardens, oh, definitely yeah especially as we've gotten. More
rain obviously not, last year but the several years repeat,
preceding that when we were breaking a lot. OF records
i think folks had these wet areas in their backyard
and they're kind of wondering what, to do how to
re route some of that water into a, better area

(15:56):
or kind of move, that water, you know off and
over into a corner instead of the middle of. The
yard that type, of thing and rain gardens are one
way can help. With that we've also seen a lot
of research emerging on rain gardens, as infrastructure, you know
something that governments install so around, the world as places
are facing more rainfall and they want to be, more

(16:18):
resilient they're installing more. Rain gardens obviously on a much
larger scale than what we do in, our yards but
they're finding that those things can really help reduce heavy,
metal pollution the flashiness of floods and things.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Like that so be kind of like turning a detention
pond into a, Rain, garden.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
Yeah, exactly, so yeah a little less, detention pond a
little more. Rain garden not that the detention ponds are,
bad necessarily obviously they serve a really. Important function but
the rain gardens kind of offer us some more co
benefits with, you know the beauty of. A garden we
have soil that's infiltrating, this water so the water is
not just. Standing water that can to, track mosquitos those sorts.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Of things right Talking, with Corey. Said max she Is
From franklin soil And The Water. Conservation district be sure
check out. The website great information. ON there i get
a lot of folks this time of, the year we
talk about a lot having your. Soil tested can that
be done through?

Speaker 2 (17:15):
You guys unfortunately, it, cannot okay but you.

Speaker 3 (17:20):
Can do It Through.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Ohio state they will send you a bag and send
it Back To. Penn State So penn state's the one
actually doing, the. Testing right but those great FOLKS At,
osu extension once you get your, sample back can help
you interpret the results of that and let you know
if there's anything your, soil needs any nutrients you're lacking things, like,

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That right so.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
If somebody, calls you you would just reckoned because That's
what i've been DOING because i didn't see it ANYWHERE
and i didn't know that if you guys actually did
offer that, or not so you just send it.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
To, issue yes we are going to be starting a
program here shortly for like community gardens or other food
producers that are Here In franklin county if they would like.
Soil testing we are going to be opening up a
program for free, soil tests probably by the end of
this month for. Those folks so if you have a

(18:13):
community garden and you're one in free soil tests and
we're WORKING With osu extension to start doing.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
That, this, Year outstanding, Corey. Said mac always a pleasure
having you on. The show always. Great. Information again the
Website IS franklin swcd. Dot org check out there's plant sale.
Going on you got three more weeks to order if you,
want any and of course other. Great information sign up
for all. Their newsletters absolutely outstanding and she'll keep us

(18:39):
updated on, owl watches, black vultures, turkey vultures, prairie chickens?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
What, else oh who knows what we'll talk. ABOUT next
i mean it is. Meteorological, spring yes start talking about
some of our, spring birds like our, woodcox warblers all
those good neotropical things that are coming Back.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
To ohio did you participate In The Great Great Backyard?
BIRD count? I.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
DID yes i love birding in. My yard it's kind
of like a vast, open tundra which is not the
nicest to be, outside in but it's really nice to
watch the birds From the lindell come to the theater
dinner at.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
A show. Mm hmm you get to, watch them let
those birds do. Their thing always. A pleasure we will
talk to you probably sometime at the end of the
month or Beginning.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Of april sounds, good, talk then, All.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Right Corey said Mac From Franklin county Soil And Water
conservation District AT franklin swcd. Dot org, quick break we.
Come back phone lines are open for you at a
two to one wtv in eight hundred and six TO
ten wtvn here on news radio six TO. Ten wtvn
it is the first day, of spring, meteorological SPRING and

(19:50):
i will take that as a matter. OF fact i
think in the gardening world we should stick with the
meteorological rather than. The, astronomical uh, spring season there are
any of, the seasons because it makes more sense the
way that the weather works in those three Particular, Months,
march April and may being the, true Spring. Not june,

(20:11):
but anyway we'll. Take it talking Earlier with corey there about,
soil Testing and i'll tell you what. That is one
of the things on my notes. Right now it's at
the very top of, my list and, that is, you
know now is the time to get that soil tested
in your. Vegetable garden if maybe you're creating bigger, perennial
gardens maybe you've had some troubles with, the lawn just.

(20:31):
Not sure want to see what the soil is, like
there what you may. Be missing what can be done
to maybe modify the soil a, little bit have. It
tested it's easy, to do, you know and there are
there are there are actually several labs in the State
of ohio that will take. That soil some garden center
sometimes offer a soil testing that they do, through themselves

(20:53):
but go issue if. You want. You can if you
go on on online and google soil testing For, all
ohio it'll bring up There it's hyge eleven. Thirty two
but they'll bring up one of their older soil testing
brochures which is still very active and still, very accurate
and that's why it's still on. The site but then

(21:14):
they can also you can google labs for soil testing
and it'll give you a whole list of all of
them through the State, of ohio and of Course Using.
PENN state i Know that oshu was. USING them I
Think pen State and Purdue if i'm not mistaking both
of them for. Soil, testing nevertheless it is a great thing.
To do you can buy the kits in the garden

(21:35):
centers and get a general idea as far as where your,
pH is what your nigro chin foster's potash, levels are all,
of that but some know invest the money in the
ten or, fifteen bucks maybe twenty dollars to have a
tested and really find out exactly what your soil. IS
like i think you may. Be surprised sometimes it can
be a little intimidating to try to read that soil

(21:57):
test results when. It comes but, of course look at,
the nph look at the. Organic matter and again the
One thing i'm ALWAYS that i look at the first
is the, pH level because so many times our pH
levels are, way off and a lot of times in the,
vegetable garden you've been growing up for two or three
or four years, doing great and all of a sudden the

(22:17):
last couple of years just hasn't done well, In general
and sure weather can be a factor things, like that
but sometimes the soil pH levels start to change and
such that it gets to a cidic or to alkalin
that a lot of the nutrients don't become available to,
the plant they aren't able to take, it up and

(22:38):
you start having some. Bad results so have your soil
tested every now and then find out where, you are do,
your lawn do, your landscape you're doing, fruit crops you
could do that vegetable gardens, for sure and find out
where you stand and find out where that pH is
because if by chance you need to, make adjustments you
want to do it as soon as you can because
you want to get those adjustments in the soil starting to,

(23:01):
break down starting, to work starting to make the adjustments
for you before it's time to actually start. The plant
so do keep that, in, mind please and again it
is so important to get that, soil tested find out
exactly where. YOU are i will take a quick break we.
Come back also want to talk about. Early planting now
that we're At the march the first date here versus spring,

(23:23):
Meteorological SPRING can I start i've already got some emails.
This week WHEN can i start planting my cool. Seasoned
crops we'll talk a little bit about some of the
things you're looking for before, you plant and a whole
lot more and taking, your calls and by, the way
taking your calls at a two TO. One wtvn coming
up to the top of, The hour I've GOT kenny
dubowcmp is going to come on our. Special guest we're

(23:44):
going to talk about have you ever thought? About THIS
and i brought this up a few times about going
to your local garden center working there part time or.
Career change actually seriously considering the green industry as. A
career it's one of the hottest industries out there right
now as far, as growth and it offers a lot
of opportunities not just, growing plants but a lot of

(24:06):
other things. As well and we're going to talk about
that and why you may want to take a look
at or if you, have students like in high school
that are looking, at careers we might want to suggest
they take a look. At this but We'll have katie
on to talk more about what is available out there
in this hot and fast, growing industry the green industry
here on news radio six TO Ten, WTVN now i

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(25:32):
see anything on our screen as far as. Any info
we were talking earlier about soil testing and how important
that is. Right, now uh and you do want to
get that done as soon as. You can the Other
thing i'm starting to, get obviously you get the First,
of march you start to get a little bit of.
Warmer weather the question starts to, come Up then i'd
like to start planting some of the cool. Season crops
WHEN can i get started planting those early season crops

(25:56):
that like the that will tolerate and actually enjoy the.
Cooler temperatures and remember it's not just the air temperatures
that we're, looking at it's the soil temperatures are actually
more important when you're looking at this now, right NOW if,
i said you know what can be planting as, of
today as long as your soil, is workable, all right

(26:17):
it's not, too wet and you can get out there
and you can actually dig and plant without, you know
mutting everything back, in, trees, shrubs, evergreens perennials even if
you know what's available out there, right now woody plants
like that are definitely available for you and definitely can
be planted as long as the soil is workable. All

(26:39):
right if, it's not you don't want to walk, on
it if, it's wet you don't want to be digging,
in it if. It's wet but if, it's workable you.
Can PLANT and i saw a few landscape crews out
already starting to do some, small landscaping not only, the
cleanups but adding a few plants and beds that are
plantablele so you can do that with, no problem, All
right so we're clear to go from this, point four

(27:00):
just depending on the moisture in the ground of Course
What mother nature is gonna throw at us as far as.
The weather but the other thing we want to watch are.
Soil temperatures and that's going to be a real key
as you go through the spring and even in the
fall when it comes to, planting annuals when it comes
to looking at pre, emergent herbicides things. Like that and

(27:22):
the thing, to remember we go through this, every YEAR
and I hope i don't bore you, with it but
it's something that, is very very important is knowing what
the soil, Temperatures ARE like, i said just, as important
if not, more important the air temperatures when it comes to.
All this and it's so easy to. Do now there
are soil thermometers that you can buy at the garden
center for ten or fifteen bucks and it tells you

(27:42):
that you, go out pull, it up take a look.
At it you got. The temperature if you don't want
to go through, all that just sit down at your
computer unless it's the ONE that i just screwed up
and you don't have, a monitor but you can go
and go green green cast online, dot com green cast online.
Dot com put in there you can put Just generally
columbus can put in your, You know hilliard or whatever
you want on there in the zip code and it'll

(28:04):
bring up soil temperatures right then twenty four hour and
a five. Day average anyone who guess What the columbus.
Temperatures are soil temperatures as of this morning at about,
seven o'clock thirty nine degrees forty two is the twenty four,
hour average and over the week it was a thirty seven.
Degree average so we're still. Pretty cool so we're still

(28:26):
got a little ways to go yet before we start
to look AT and i look at about forty. Five
degrees about forty, five degrees THAT'S what i look. At
consistently me that my personal opinion when it comes to
planning some of those earliest seasonal vegetables that like the,
COOLER temperatures i go for the forty five. Degrees, plus now,

(28:49):
you know if you want to get to the, early
jump now you can wait and you can do it
when it's fifty degrees or fifty five, or whatever but
forty five is usually THAT'S what i look. For consistently,
All right so we aren't, There yet it's coming and
you're gonna get days, you know you're gonna get days
where it gets really warm out and the salt teps
are going to go up into. The fifties nighttime is
going to go to, the twenties it's going to drop
back down into the forties and even into. The thirties

(29:12):
so it's going to go up and down for. A
while but we start getting consistent at that forty, five
degrees then you start thinking about planting some of those
very early cool season cross that that really enjoy, the cooler.
Cooler temperatures so we'll watch That and i'll keep bringing.
That up as a matter, of fact it's an important
part of pre emergent herbicide applications. As well fifty five

(29:32):
degrees for crabgrass to start to think about germinating consistently
and most other weeds and having your crab grass preventter
in place before we reach that. As well and that's
why it's important to what's, that temperature to stretch it
out as long as you can apply it right before,
this happens and that way it lasts longer for you
through the. Spring season that. Pre immersion to the gardening,

(29:54):
phone lines we Shall, go bob, good morning.

Speaker 3 (29:59):
Good, Morning, ron, yes sir have in my. Side bed
it looks like an evergreen. POPPED up i put it
in a plant idea and it seems to think It's a.
Chinese juniper not sure, about THAT but i. Was wondering
it's about two and a half feet, tall NOW and

(30:20):
i wanted to try to. Transplant it and you might
have covered some of that's in a roundabout weigh in
your last, call there but one would be a good
time to transplant.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
That before it starts. To, regrow so, you know again
looking at, the nurseries it's all moisture. Right now we're
just waiting for the nurseries to dry out enough that
they can. Start digging and as soon as they can start,
digging now they're going to start. Doing That so i'd
be looking at anytime if we don't get a lot
of rainfall and it seems to dry enough that you

(30:50):
can dig it sometime in the next two to, three weeks,
you know sometime during the Month of march typically or
maybe Even. Early april as far as, THE plant i
it probably is a juniper of, some type whether it's
From the eastern red seedars that we have, growing natively
or somebody Has a chinese juniper in their landscape that.

(31:12):
Set fruit those seeds can come into the into your
yard and they will germinate and. Come up so it
could very well, be that and it's hard to tell
sometimes when, they're younger because the foliage will actually those
needles will actually change from a juvenile foliage to a
mature foliage. OVER time i think the other thing you need, To,
remember bob is that when you go to, dig that

(31:33):
how has it been there for? Two years?

Speaker 3 (31:34):
YOU say i would say, about, that yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:39):
Is that the roots are gonna. Be minimal i'm guessing
you're gonna find probably four or five roots right along
the top of the, you know couple inches down, or
so and probably not much. Underneath that so it's gonna
have not a real extensive. Root system so when you,
dig that look at the. Trunk diameter if it's like an,
Echine diameter i'd probably go out about ten inches or

(32:02):
so twelve inches around, the outside go straight, down first
cut whatever roots you're going to. Cut there if it's not,
very much you might want to go in just a
little bit more and then, you know to make that
ball size easy for you to get out. Of There
but i'd say probably about an eighteen twenty eighteen, inch
ball and only it'll wind up being ten inches twelve

(32:22):
inches deep is. About it not much of a root
system if it bear roots, on you and it probably
will where all the soil, Falls off just get it
replanted at the, same depth and you might even want
to mark that on, the trunk same depth that it
was growing where you dug it. Out of you may
have to stake it with a small steak to hold it.

(32:44):
In place make sure the soil settles back then around the,
root system watered, and well and then take it. From
there but sometimes when you transplant those they just don't.
Have it, you know it's not a really extensive. Root
system it can be a little coarse and a little tough.
To transplant so do keep that. In, mind.

Speaker 3 (33:00):
Okay, GREAT information i really. Appreciate it oh.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You're welcome good talking. With you it looks like we're
gonna have to take. A break are, we, close ELLA
because I see i don't have a clocking visual there
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