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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personally yard We're talking about yardening,
and I think the guy across from me is Joe Strecker,
executive producer. How do he? Are you? Joe Strecker? Are
you AI? And how would I know the difference?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, because if AI would immituate me perfectly, it would, yeah, perfectly,
immitate me perfectly, immitut me perfectly. I'm the real deal. Yeah,
you are the real deal. Thanks care of our website,
Ron Wilson Online dot com, Facebook page. In the garden
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with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir. Hey, it's almost end
of the first burn month? Can you every year? Every year?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Okay, Susie hits Halloween? I know your mom's not listening. No,
do you just like go take your shoes off anyway
and go out there in the grass like when you
were a kid, when she wasn't looking.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I was, well, I was doing it up until about
last this week. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean I'm got
I still go outside to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I mean, but as a kid when you said no, Joe,
you know, yeah, did you? So she wasn't like night looking. Yeah,
but you went really fast and make sure she didn't
see you. Well, I'm yeah, I'm saying, but I just
kind of figured you would be the one. Oh yeah,
we all did it. And she came after you with
a wooden spoon. Yeah, with the with the wooden spoon.
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Smack joege t shirt says, I survived the wooden spoon.
I got it. It's what shirt too, So it's padded
just in case he goes to his mom exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So Yeah, it's uh, every year, see as we hit Halloween,
it's gonna fly by and it's already Halloween.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's already Halloween. Next week I always the last. This
is the last Saturday in October. Yeah, and then the
time changes.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, next thing you know, it's we're going to be
uh we tell Turkey and lemon Cello and cherry bounce.
After that, we are talking what do you want for Christmas?
Want for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Live Christmas trees?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Live Christmas trees that I'm not going to put up
once that is, didn't even ask. And and then next
thing you know, it's twenty twenty six and we're talking
about how awful.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cold it is, celebrating with champagne. Yeah, and then we
were saying, well, it's Valentine's Days coming up in six
weeks yep, Groundhog Days coming up and yeah yeah yeah,
so yeah, just flies by whies on by.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So anyway, what's uh, what's going on? It's a little
cold out there today?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh? You know what? Friday morning at our house we
had I mean I had to actually I didn't scrape it,
but I squirted the water on from the windshield wipers
to get that ice to come off for there. So
we actually had a thin layer of rice ice the
day before. Morning before we had a little bit of
frost yep, and it was on the very edges. But yeah,
Friday morning, yes it was. It was actually frozen on there.
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Now again it kind of people hear about these frosts
and freezes and they get confused, and you got to remember,
this isn't a because they've had a freeze warning in effect. Right,
was it one for this morning? I don't know if
it was this morning, but yesterday for sure, And they
put these freeze warnings out, so everybody panties because are
going into a freeze whatever. Well, the only thing that
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freezes is like the frost on your windshield and that
it's not and it only lasts for a few hours
and then it's done, and we aren't at a freeze yet,
and it's like, should I dig everything up? Bring? Well, yeah,
you want to bring the plants that are tender in
obviously your houseplants that are still outside or whatever. But
nothing's frozen besides plant tissue and a little bit of condensation.
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We aren't there yet. We got a long way to go.
We won't see the ground freeze typically until we get
to yeah, Christmas or January. So just because it says
a freeze doesn't mean that the season is over. Remember
fall goes until what December twenty first, Yeah, so we
got a one way to go, so keep planting. But
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of course my growing season stopped in like twenty twenty two.
Well I was gonna say, ye years, several years. Yeah,
since it's right been going yeah, yeah, I mean, and
but you're gonna still do the thing besides this sidewalk
and then we're gonna I'm going to thush wall. I'm
gonna try.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The interesting thing on Friday was because I get to
work really early, it was actually warmer when I got
to work than when I left.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh well there was fog too, Yeah, there was. There
was all that. There was fog in a lot of areas.
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean when I got when I got to work,
goes in the low forties, and then when I left
it was in the low thirties, and then it came
right back up, and then it came right back up.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. So yeah, so crazy times. I saw a lot
of irrigation systems being blown out this week. Oh wow, yeah,
you see the last time of year coming out of
the heads of those things. Time of year unfortunately, because
it's gonna you know, I stays dry. You don't have
the opportunity to turn the irrigation on it. And I
get it. I understand that you don't want it to freeze.
It won't take a chance and they've got a whole
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bunch of service so they can't just wait. And I
understand that. But the we get into this problem every year,
but it stays dry. Yeah, drag the hoses out, true,
very true. Don't leave a test your speak it though, right, Yes,
today should drained the hose, then you actually can guess today. Yes,
Rita Hikenfeld, because we always have her on either right
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before Halloween. It's a big time of the year. She's busy.
We've had a couple of Saturdays where it was Halloween,
so uh, but we have her on today and definitely
busy coming Friday. Yes, she'll be a busy camper. Yeah,
well not a camper, but you know what, you know
what I mean, And she's probably making potions all this week.
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I'll have to ask her today. I wonder if the
like when this time of the year that I am
Newt and all those if that becomes the shortage, you know,
there's a shortage out there. How's that? You know, supplying
the man happened, you know, right before Halloween. She wouldn't
just try to check that out. She'll probably have a
frog in her throat when we get to talk to
her really, as usually does. He starts talking as a
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frog in her throat and it's you know, we got Rita,
we got the doctor triple A, not doctor Z. You
thought I was gonna say doctor Z, didn't you. I
thought you were going to say the arbor doctor. Well
he's I was gonna say Hender. He is not down under.
He made it. I think he made it back this week.
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He was supposed to make it back anyway, but with
the airline things, he was not sure he was going
to get back home. But yeah, he's going to be
here next Saturday and we're going to do a little
update of his trip. But he was he was at
an internet Christmas Do I preview Christmas trees? We could absolutely,
absolutely we could. But he he just came back from
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uh an International Society of Agriculture meeting out so he could.
It was a business trip on the camel uh uh right,
as he was a camel jockey, and uh. He came
back with a very interesting thing that they're doing now.
Uh the tree wounds. I'm not going to give it away,
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but sealing off the trees to prevent insect or disease issues.
We don't use a tar anymore. Huh. There's a new
method that they've been doing on in some of the
other states and it's been very effective using fire. I
was gonna say, a big band aid fire. He just
gave it away. Very interesting. So he's going to talk
about that now everybody will forget what we're going to
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talk about. Oh, okay, and then Gary and Gary Salvin
and Buggy Joe still doing still hanging in there. Goodness,
he went along last year. Nothing well it stays warmer,
you know, things are going on out there. But yeah,
he was on late late last year as well, so well,
fucking Joe Bogs. All right, Well, the Facebook page is
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Ron Wilson online dot com. That's not the fake, that's right,
that's a website. You threw me off this back then
it was at Okay, the website is Ron Wilson online
dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson. Hit that out, Dan,
So the chat rooms up. Hopefully people are enjoying them.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We've been doing this so long. It's like a I
just you know, you just I totally. That was my fault.
I've started out this thing differently and it kind of
throws you off. It's right, hope.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hopefully people are enjoying the graphics. I haven't gotten any feedback.
I am enjoying them immensely. My wife enjoys them. She
thinks she's funny. They're funnier in the heck. This week
we got a Halloween motif. So check out the read
the too, the graphic on a well, on the on
the Facebook page there's a special one. Yeah, so check
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that out and on the website. First of all, there
was a segment I guess from CBS Sunday Morning, Yes,
about someone who I guess takes care of dead plants. Yeah,
you're coming more in your dead plant on your dead plant. Yeah,
and I create a special graphic for that. By the way,
Oh did you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I didn't. I didn't pay attention to that, so so yeah,
you gotta gotta gotta check that out. It is a
really cool I did second that you did because you're
the way, because that's right, because you said, how'd you
do that?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's I remember. Now I'm getting old, Joe, so am I?
So am I? I keep telling people it was the
twenty first anniversary of my thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Pretty good. It kind of sounds pretty good. Still sound young?
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So we got we got that up on the website.
Rita's recipe this Week Yes, or her potion this week Yes,
is something called monster mash, and she got that from
Pauladine's cookbook, and she credited I would eat that, except
I would also add, uh.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know what you're gonna say. What you said, I
agree with you. Half a pound of ground beef. You
got it. I was going to say, ground beef or
spicy sausage or cheriso. Yeah, I would have that. There's two.
So I looked at the picture. I made it drew up, Yeah,
made it bigger than I thought. Is that meat in that?
Is that? Just?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, there's there's two cans of refried beans. I would
take one of the cans of refried beans and sub
a like a half a pound of ground beef or
something like.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Exactly. I knew what you were going to say because
I was I was looking at the picture saying.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And instead of some meat, instead of tortilla chips, I
would use the tostito scoops.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, those teas, Yeah, the ones that are laid
like a little ball. Yeah, exactly, the way you get
more stuff. Oh absolutely, that would be perfect. So well,
we'll call it a combo recipe, but I would take
it like it is. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And Rita is showing off her which is hat she
got a new one. Yeah, so check out the witch's hat,
her new witch's hat that she got on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I was checking out some things the other day and
I found the old file that says, yes I can
dry the stick.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah that you put up there one year. Yeah, with
the broom. Yeah, so check out Rita's recipe of the
week and the plants of the week.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, plants. Since it's a next week is going to
be November, so we're going to do the scary Halloween plants.
This spooky plants.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The first one's the Devil's Walking stick. Now that really
one of your favorites. I love that plant. You know what,
if you see it, it's really cool. And everybody says, well,
it's got the big thorns on it and all that,
why would I want to mess with it? And there's
a great history behind that plant, by the way, is
why it has the thorns and all. But you the
way you plant that is you plant it. You put
a big ten foot circle around it with mulch and
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just stay away from it and let it do its thing.
Flowers are cool, the berries are full cool. The planet
itself is gorgeous, kind of multi stem. They have like
a clump. But just plant it, big mold ring around it.
Don't just stay away from it and enjoy it. It's
a really nice plant. And so is the other one
we're going to talk about it. Yeah, pon cyrus. And
pont Cyrus is a hardy citrus. It actually will flower
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and form a small golf ball sized orange citrus. I
guess it's in the an orange. Very bitter, but it's
really cool and it's hardy for our area. First time
I ever saw that was at the Society Botanical Garden
and zoo, and then Kevin O'Dell gave me one to
plant for my grandson. Absolutely love that plant. And it
will get you when you plan it. Trust me, you
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will get stuck. But again, plant it big maltring around
it and just stay away from it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Let it do its thing and forget it. Great white
flowers in this in the springtime. But it's a hardy citrus.
Very cool for zone five, I think so, yeah two.
But they're very spooky looking plants. Yeah cool.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, all the callers that call in today that get through,
tell run your favorite Halloween Halloween candy. That's that's the
tradition used to do. Used to put the voting out there.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, when we.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Used to do what actual chat room live with a
with a pole but yeah, that was a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, but you somehow that always jelly beans always won. Well,
somehow jelly bean's always won for Halloween. Jee actually Christmas
recy Cups always won for Halloween. I don't know how
that ever happened. By the way, what's your favorite? Joee
cups and candy jelly beans? Somehow, Joe that seemed to
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always win. People are just people just want to be
like me. I guess, I guess it's a candy. Yeah there,
Joe candy. Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So all right, I'm gonna before I get in more
any more trouble, I'm gonna get out of.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here, all right. Joe Strecker, executive producer. If you like it,
we see on our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Facebook page is in the garden front Wilson see Joe
new he listens. If you like what you see on there,
Joe Strecker had everything to do with it. Something there.
You don't like your question, you say, yeah, Joe, you
need to get that off there. Well, don't asked, Joe.
Don't blame Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Don't blame me. It's not my fault. It's not his fault.
It's doctor's he's fault. Washington d C.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He's too busy, halloweening already is treating already and how
Washington d C. Washington d C. Garden eighty three stress
dresses up poor Bowser and Halloween costumes every day. Poor
dog on his best driving around and who's on that
back seat? The This is sweet Tart with the big
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rock on the left hand. Mm hmmm, don't dress up Bowser.
You think he's having fun, but he's really not. No, now,
really he's plotting your death. How do I stop this?
I don't want to dress up like a Halloween al right.
He put those buns on his side like a Wiener dog.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I wouldn't do that. I know I would not do that. Now,
now there is a really cool Halloween costume. It's like, uh,
a Michael Myers costume. And when the dog kind of
walks like you know, back and forth, the arms move.
So yeah, so that's cool. That one I would probably do,
not maybe not maybe on Hans, but maybe on Fritzy.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
On the bigger dog. No Fritzy, because he's the cutest.
Oh yeah, all right, okay, I gotta go fight. Bite
Joe Strecker, thank you so much. Eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. That's our number here in
the garden with Ron Wilsonstrucker and the Durano Kid. Welcome
back here in the garden with Ron Wilson again that
toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight two
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five five talking about yarding as we are, we went
our way through the month of October, as Joe and
I were talking about, and again, I want to just
very quickly because we're going to go into the break
here because we rambled on too long. I just want
to remember this frost and freeze thing. Don't let that
turn you off. As far as planting. Frosts obviously are
going to take out annuals, are going to take out
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tropical plants, things like that. So if you've got plants
you go to overwinter in, you need to get those
in and get a protective from the frosts or light freeze.
But when we're getting freezes right now, those soil temperatures
are way too warm to cause any problem. You know,
nothing's gonna freeze in the ground. That's a long way off.
So you let Mother Nature's frost and you let Mother
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Nature's early freezes take out the foliage of your annuals,
and take out the foliage of the tropical plants that
you're gonna dig up and overwinter they're tubers or rhizomes
or roots or whatever it may be in the unheated
or not a honey grubs, but in the basement or
storage area or wherever it's cool and dark, that you're
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gonna overwinter those if they don't freeze. But you've got
time to do left another date. You take the foliage
out first, dig them up later, and they ain't gonna
freeze yet, So you got plenty of time to get
those taken care of. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. That's our number here in the garden
with Ron will welcome back. You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson again. That toll free number eight hundred eight
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two three eight two five five. Website run Wilson online
dot com. Uh. You know, Danny and I don't get
to Uh, we don't look at each other directly. We
see each other on the screens. Uh. He's in another
room around the corner here, and then we're in the
studio here and Dan came in today. He dug out
his old Casper, the ghost Halloween mask that he wore
as a kid, and so Dan is sitting there with
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his Casper the ghost mask on as he's running the
show it's quite uh, quite funny. It's a matter of fact,
looking on you're seeing Casper. Not even the kids you
did they even know Casper the ghost? No, probably not,
But yeah, it still fits you too, which is which
is amazing. Talking about yarding at eight hundred A two
three eight two five five, things are finally starting to
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shut down. The frosts that we're starting to get are
starting to knock out some of those annuals, probably doing
a number on the vegetable garden as well. I picked
my mom's final cherry tomatoes this past week, so she
got those, and now we'll get ready to toss out
the tomatoes and all. And of course, as year are
reading more and more about gardening and the new changes
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and concepts and things like that, what are we hearing
more about Leave the leaves, leave the plants, you know,
let things go over the winter and let's clean it
up in the springtime. And again it's for the health
of the wildlife and the pollinators and things that need
all that debrisf for overwintering. And of course the seededs
and all. Totally agree with you for me, talk about
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totally agree with it, except for a couple of things.
One is, and I think you'll see this more and more.
Finally they're adding this in to make sure folks understand.
We're talking about in perennial beds, landscape beds, maybe around
the trees, but you know that type of thing. But
you don't leave the leaves laying on your lawn. Now,
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we want to put the leaves back in the lawn,
but we're going to do that a little differently because
we're going to grind those up with the lawn mower.
So even if your lawn has started to shut down
then I say shut down, not growing like it normally
would be. As a matter of fact, again not much
mowing in our area this week because it's really starting
to slow down quickly, but as the leaves fall and
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we're just not getting to that, which is another crazy
thing for our area. I remember when this fall weather started,
leaves started changing and dropping in September. Now they start
dropping in September because it's dry, but you know, finally
starting to get fall colored leaves are going to really
start to drop here over the next couple of weeks. Well,
as that's happening, it's great to put those back into
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the landscape beds. Put those into the perennial beds, grind
them up, put them in even into the vegetable garden,
or grind them up and put them back into the turf.
You should be able to use up all the leaves
from your trees that drop in your yard. In your yard,
you shouldn't be sending any away to landfills or whatever.
It's amazing. Research has shown that you can drop, you
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can put six inches or more six inches deep of
leaves ground back up, you know, grinding them back up
every time you mow back into the and the benefits
of doing that are phenomenal. We see you're putting organic
matter back into the soil as you add. You know
what's funny is as you add those ground up leaves,
finally ground leaves, and that's the key, obviously, finally ground
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leaves and grass blades that do fall back into that
it's kind of like thin layer composting, so they work
together to break down adding organic matter back to the soil.
Earthworms absolutely love them. They love them. They'll come up
and grab those little bitty pieces and actually take them
back down into their tunnels where they then eat them
and produce earthworm poop, which is great for the soil.
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That's why I always say, pamper your earthworms. Pamper your worms,
because if your worms are happy, your soil is happy.
And if your soil is happy, everything's going to grow
in it. If it's the right plant in the right
spot is going to be happy as well. So again,
as we get into the leaf falling time the season here,
grind up as many as you can back into the turf,
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all right. If you think you got too many in
your uncomfortable with it, that's all right. Throw them back
into the landscape beds, back into the perennial beds. And
you know, and again we're talking about the cleanup and
leaving the perennials alone, and that's fine. I don't have
any problem with that. There's some that you know are
going to just turn the mush and kind of go
away anyway, like hostas. You know, you'll clean those out.
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But the one area that you do want to clean
out is the vegetable garden. All right. We don't want
to leave the overwintering pepper plants and tomato plants and
that stuff in the vegetable garden. That is one area
I'm a firm believer in that you need to get
all that stuff out of there, clean it up, get
all of it away, because you know if you have
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any diseases, soil borne diseases, diseases that overwinter on the
folish itself, the roots is something you know, you wind
up leaving that there, and you want to get all
that out of there. That's something you throw maybe throw
in a compost pile, or you get rid of it somehow,
but you get that out of the vegetable garden. That
is an area we don't want to leave just looking already,
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Nor do we want to leave the weeds that are
growing there as well. Make sure you get rid of those.
We do not want weeds getting a foothold in there
and throwing seeds out there. As we go into the
fall and late falling into the winter season, so again
vegetable gardens were going to clean out. And when we're
cleaning those out and getting rid of that material, this
is a good time to come back in and add
soil amendments. I love adding soil amendments to the vegetable
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garden or any of the gardens really in the fall
because as you do that, especially in the vegetable garden
or in those raised beds. As you're doing that, it
gives you the rest of this year, over the winter
and early spring for that to be churning and breaking
down and composting and kind of coming together. When you
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put it all in there in the springtime, you got
a lot of different things going on there, a lot
of things happening, and you can do that. It works,
but it works better as far as I'm concerned, doing
it in the fall and again lightly in the springtime.
But if you do that in the fall, can work
that in even if it's just a top dressing the
compost of material. The fall is a great time to
do that. Now, before you even do that, let's back
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up another step. Clean everything out of the vegetable garden,
get all the old stuff out of there, get some
soil samples, and have that soil tested. When's the last
time you had that done. Get the soil tested, and
I can tell you right now, if you lived in
our area, I tell you right now, it's going to
say you're lacking on nitrogenior phosphorus is high, and potash
could be anywhere over the board. And then you got
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to look at the micronutrients. It'll also show you how
much organic matter percentage you have in there, which you
might want to work on increasing. And I'll give you
the pH. And the pH is so important in the
soils because if the pH isn't at the right level
for what you're trying to grow in a vegetable garden,
it doesn't take up a lot of the nutrients that
are in the soil. They get locked up or the
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plant can't take them up. So you can adjust all
of those levels yet this fall and then do your
composting and adding organic matter. And if you till great,
you can tell in the fall. If you're not a tailor,
that's okay. You know, if you and there's a lot
of folks out there that you use shows broad forks
or a garden spade, the fork garden spade fork that
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you can go in and just kind of crack the soil.
Those broad forks are that's pretty good workout. But you
can use those. Don't forget about the earthlifter tool. You know,
we talked about that cut last week as a matter
of fact with mister Neil who invented that thing. But
it can make that cracking of that soil very easy
for you. So if you're not a tiller, but you
want to break the soil a little bit. When you
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break the soil, you can throw some composts down in
those areas where you broke the soil. Think about those
tools as well. But this is a great time to
have your vegetable garden soil tested. Add the soil amendments
and what other amendments you need to add to make
things right, and give it all winter long so that
in the springtime it's pretty much ready to go. And
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then you can go out, maybe lightly fluff up the
top or whatever, and start your playing thing and then
of course finished up by top dressing with some type
of compost to carry through the summer season. I think
that's a great way to go. But again when we
talk about leave the leaves, I'm all for it. I'm
all for leaving the perennials and that up. Let the
wildlife use them over the wintertime, clean them up, leave
the leaves, use them in your yard as mulch, top dressing,
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soil amendment compost. If you don't have a compost pile,
start a compost pile. This is a great time to
do that. You got a lot of debris out there,
that you want to start composting, start a compost pile
next year that becomes gardener's gold. And you go out
there and you scoop out that compost. Your neighbors are
gonna be like, where'd you get that stuff? And it's yours,
it's your compost. But again, the bottom line is, do
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all this stuff, but don't leave leaves, whole leaves laying
on the lawn. Can't do that, all right, You leave
them everywhere else, but don't leave them laying on the lawn.
Before we take a break, Nick and Dayton, good.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Morning, Good morning, run Kenny.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
How are you, Dick? We are doing great? How about yourself? Good? Good? Good?
So what do you think about those angles for this
this Sunday? They're gonna win this Sunday, gonna be beat
the Jets. Good. Yeah, I'm surprised. They did pretty good
at Goods. The Steelers did they they did? I mean,
I think mister Falco is going to come here, Flacco
(26:14):
is going to come in here and then and do
a nice job. Yeah, I think so too. Now are
you watching it? You're watching the World Series? No?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, After the Guardians lost Get Home, but they had
a good year.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
They had a good year. That wouldn't have been something
with the Guardians and the Reds in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I would Well then who, then, who would you reroot for? Well?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Probably the Indians?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh no, okay, that's all right. Yeah, you're my cousin,
and you know what, but I think it's I think
it's interesting because you're a you've been a Cleveland fan forever.
As you just referred to them as the Indians. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
There'll always be the Indies, right right, right. But I've
(27:06):
played a couple of gigs this week. Oh good, pretty,
it's been pretty good for me. But I'm waiting for
the Uh. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
To get watch the game tomorrow and uh but I'm
doing okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good, what's always good hearing from you. We're going to
take a break, but Dick, you stay in touch with us, Okay,
I will, all right, bye bye, good talk away to
take a quick break. We come back, Katie in Delaware,
you're coming up next. Phone lines are open for you.
Eight hundred and I forgot to ask Dick his favorite
Halloween candy eight hundred A two three eight two five
five Here in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're talking
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yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five and uh, don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com. Uh. I saw a segment on the CBS
Sunday Morning a couple of weeks ago, and it's the
Pride and Perils of plant parenthood folks that have lost
their house plants for whatever reason. And I think it
was a small four whatever set up like like a
(28:02):
funeral home, and you could bring your dead plant there
and then the there was a gentleman, there was like
a horticulturist, house plan expert. He could help to diagnose
what went wrong and then you know, you could have
a little service for your houseplant and then go on
from there. That was kind of funny, I mean, because
you know, plant plant the parenthood big thing now. I mean,
those are those are your kids and lots of you
(28:23):
can get names, and which I think is the worst
thing in the world to do, because when you lose
Sally or whoever, maybe makes it even harder, I think.
But anyway, it's a cute segment. It's a great segment.
You can go to our website and check it out.
At Ron Wilson online dot com. Read is doing the
monster mash with her recipe there and she'll be coming
up with us at the day after the top of
the hour, uh talking about finishing up in the vegetable garden.
(28:45):
We're talking about some of the herbs they use at
Halloween and a recipe as well, so be sure and
stay tuned for that. And in course at bottom of
the hour, doctor Allen Armities will join us as well,
talking your yarding of course, and as we start to
look at the holiday season. If you were growing your
and marillis from last year, from Christmas or the over
the wintertime, and you've had it growing and hopefully at
(29:07):
the end of August versus September, you let it go dormant,
cut the foliage off, and you've got it in storage
now storage being sitting dormant, dark, cool area, all right,
so it just sits there. Remember you want to keep
it in storage for at least six weeks, eight weeks
even better, right, six to eight weeks in total darkness, cool, dormant,
(29:31):
not growing, just sitting there resting. And then after at
least six weeks, if you can give it eight, that's
even better. You bring it out of the dark, cool area.
A lot of folks who just set them in like
a closet in the basement or something like that, keep
it as cool as you can, bring it out, light watering,
get some moisture back in that soil, and you know,
(29:54):
get the light to it, and then watch and it'll
start to regrow. And typically once they start to regrow, oh,
it takes about six weeks or maybe longer for that
thing to flower. All right, So think about what I've
just said. If you are doing this process with your
own amarillas, that you were growing all you know, up
(30:15):
until the first of September. So now we're talking a
six to six or twelve to sixteen week period before
we see it flowering. And if you count from when
you first made it go torment until the flowering period,
we're getting to that point are fairly close to hopefully
bringing it out of the dormancy period and firing it
(30:37):
up for if you wanted to flower during the holiday
season six to eight weeks back, right, So if you
would want that to start to happen, you're talking about
getting it growing the first week or so of November,
second week of November for flowering mid to late December
and first of January. Now, if you want to make them,
have them flower later, you just leave the dormant. You
(30:59):
just leave them there, don't let them grow, and they
just sit there nice and dark and whatever, and then
you bring them out later and fire them up and
give yourself later color into the winter season. But if
you're trying to time it for the holidays, you're starting
to take a look at that six to eight week
dormant period and then another six weeks plus for it
to flower once it starts regrowing. So kind of keep
(31:22):
that in mind as we cruise to the fall season
here if you're trying to time it to do that. Now,
paper whites, which is another favorite for the holiday season,
usually takes a lot less time for them to flower.
And a lot of folks I know a lot of
folks in our area that will actually families will get
several bulbs. Everybody gets their own container like with some gravel,
(31:43):
nestle them in little water in the bottom, and then
see who can come closest to a specific date as
far as getting them to flower, because you can control
how quickly they flower. And amoroll is kind of the
same way. By the temperature in the room. So if
they're coming along too fast, you get them, put them
where the little cooler, they slow down. Put them where
it's warmer, they speed up, and then you can kind
(32:06):
of see who wins the contest for you're getting get
the flower at a specific time. That's for paper whites.
And do remember if you've had problems with paper whites
in the past at the holidays overgrowing and then falling over,
which they will do in the house. So get tall
and they just flop and you gotta tie them up
or do something. Two things to help against that. One
is keep them cooler they stay shorter. Two is you
(32:29):
can actually pot them up in a vase that has
a taller vase with gravel in the bottom and drop
them in there. Place them in their gravel with a
little bit of water, and the vase helps to hold
the foliage upright. And then when it flowers, it's in
the vase and flowering at the top and they don't
flop or last but not least, you can use a
(32:52):
splash of alcohol as in liquor clear alcohol, vodka, gin,
anything like that, a splash in the water when you're
watering the paper white bulbs will help to keep them shorter,
but they still flower just like they normally would, so
it actually helps to keep shorter. So a little splash
(33:14):
in your water of usually most people just use vodka,
and I'm talking just to a little splash. That's all
you need. Maybe if you want to put a little
splash for you too, that's fine, but that really helps
to keep it shorter. But again, we're looking at time
right now where the timing can be critical. If you're
looking for holiday colors for your ambillas that you've been
growing all along, start to look at where we are
(33:36):
there as far as getting them started for holiday color. Last,
but not least, on those holiday plants. If you've been
growing a Christmas cactus and you have not been able
to get it to flower at Christmas time, remember that
Christmas cactus are like ponsettias. They are daylight sensitive, so
as the days get darker, that helps to set up
flower buds. We'll typically back off on the water and
(33:59):
keep them a little bit dryer through October sometimes that
will help. But here's the key, and I think this
is really important. If you have one in a window sill,
or you have one outside in the shady area that
you've put outside in the summertime and they experience several
days of that fifty degree nighttime temperatures. That fifty degree
(34:21):
cooler temperatures for about a week or so really helps
to create the flower buds on your Christmas cactus. So
if you haven't had that happen, you don't see any
flower buds starting to form yet, you might want to
just we don't want it to get frosted. We just
want to expose it to cooler temperatures. And usually, you
know we said nice days, it's you know, sixty seventies
(34:43):
nighttime gets down into the fifties, upper forties maybe, but
fifty ish, lower fifties. That's perfect to help set up
for the flower buds. So keep that in mind as
well for those Christmas cactus that you were not able
to get to flower in the past. And do we
remember there is a Thanksgiving cactus that would you typically
flowers earlier, and if you look at them, they're all
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these are all different. There is a Christmas cactus that
flowers around the holiday season, and there's an Easter cactus
that usually flowers sometime in late winter early spring. So
there are three to actually three different types of them
out there for you. But again timing very important, so
do keep that in mind as we go along. All right,
don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson Online dot com,
Facebook page. In the Garden with Ron Wilson, our number
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eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Coming
up next, Rita Hikenfeld. We'll talk with Riata about her
recipe and herbs in the Garden and herbs for the
Halloween season. Oh yeah, she knows all about that. Bottom
of the hour, Doctor Triple A, doctor Allen Apple, Armities
will join us as well. It's all happening here in
the Garden with Ron Wilson.
Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Good morning.
I am Ron Wilson, your personally yard We're talking about yardening,
and I think the guy across from me is Joe Strecker,
executive producer. How do he? Are you? Joe Strecker? Are
you AI? And how would I know the difference?
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Well, because if AI would immituate me perfectly, it would, yeah, perfectly,
immitate me perfectly, immitut me perfectly. I'm the real deal. Yeah,
you are the real deal. Thanks care of our website,
Ron Wilson Online dot com, Facebook page. In the garden
(00:35):
with Ron Wilson. Good morning, sir. Hey, it's almost end
of the first burn month? Can you every year? Every year?
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Okay, Susie hits Halloween? I know your mom's not listening. No,
do you just like go take your shoes off anyway
and go out there in the grass like when you
were a kid, when she wasn't looking.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I was, well, I was doing it up until about
last this week. Yeah, okay, yeah, I mean I'm got
I still go outside to do that.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Well, I mean, but as a kid when you said no, Joe,
you know, yeah, did you? So she wasn't like night looking. Yeah,
but you went really fast and make sure she didn't
see you. Well, I'm yeah, I'm saying, but I just
kind of figured you would be the one. Oh yeah,
we all did it. And she came after you with
a wooden spoon. Yeah, with the with the wooden spoon.
(01:25):
Smack joege t shirt says, I survived the wooden spoon.
I got it. It's what shirt too, So it's padded
just in case he goes to his mom exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
So Yeah, it's uh, every year, see as we hit Halloween,
it's gonna fly by and it's already Halloween.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
It's already Halloween. Next week I always the last. This
is the last Saturday in October. Yeah, and then the
time changes.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Yeah, next thing you know, it's we're going to be
uh we tell Turkey and lemon Cello and cherry bounce.
After that, we are talking what do you want for Christmas?
Want for Christmas?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Live Christmas trees?
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Live Christmas trees that I'm not going to put up
once that is, didn't even ask. And and then next
thing you know, it's twenty twenty six and we're talking
about how awful.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Cold it is, celebrating with champagne. Yeah, and then we
were saying, well, it's Valentine's Days coming up in six
weeks yep, Groundhog Days coming up and yeah yeah yeah,
so yeah, just flies by whies on by.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
So anyway, what's uh, what's going on? It's a little
cold out there today?
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Uh? You know what? Friday morning at our house we
had I mean I had to actually I didn't scrape it,
but I squirted the water on from the windshield wipers
to get that ice to come off for there. So
we actually had a thin layer of rice ice the
day before. Morning before we had a little bit of
frost yep, and it was on the very edges. But yeah,
Friday morning, yes it was. It was actually frozen on there.
(03:03):
Now again it kind of people hear about these frosts
and freezes and they get confused, and you got to remember,
this isn't a because they've had a freeze warning in effect. Right,
was it one for this morning? I don't know if
it was this morning, but yesterday for sure, And they
put these freeze warnings out, so everybody panties because are
going into a freeze whatever. Well, the only thing that
(03:25):
freezes is like the frost on your windshield and that
it's not and it only lasts for a few hours
and then it's done, and we aren't at a freeze yet,
and it's like, should I dig everything up? Bring? Well, yeah,
you want to bring the plants that are tender in
obviously your houseplants that are still outside or whatever. But
nothing's frozen besides plant tissue and a little bit of condensation.
(03:47):
We aren't there yet. We got a long way to go.
We won't see the ground freeze typically until we get
to yeah, Christmas or January. So just because it says
a freeze doesn't mean that the season is over. Remember
fall goes until what December twenty first, Yeah, so we
got a one way to go, so keep planting. But
(04:08):
of course my growing season stopped in like twenty twenty two.
Well I was gonna say, ye years, several years. Yeah,
since it's right been going yeah, yeah, I mean, and
but you're gonna still do the thing besides this sidewalk
and then we're gonna I'm going to thush wall. I'm
gonna try.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
The interesting thing on Friday was because I get to
work really early, it was actually warmer when I got
to work than when I left.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
Oh well there was fog too, Yeah, there was. There
was all that. There was fog in a lot of areas.
It was funny.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I mean when I got when I got to work,
goes in the low forties, and then when I left
it was in the low thirties, and then it came
right back up, and then it came right back up.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah. So yeah, so crazy times. I saw a lot
of irrigation systems being blown out this week. Oh wow, yeah,
you see the last time of year coming out of
the heads of those things. Time of year unfortunately, because
it's gonna you know, I stays dry. You don't have
the opportunity to turn the irrigation on it. And I
get it. I understand that you don't want it to freeze.
It won't take a chance and they've got a whole
(05:08):
bunch of service so they can't just wait. And I
understand that. But the we get into this problem every year,
but it stays dry. Yeah, drag the hoses out, true,
very true. Don't leave a test your speak it though, right, Yes,
today should drained the hose, then you actually can guess today. Yes,
Rita Hikenfeld, because we always have her on either right
(05:31):
before Halloween. It's a big time of the year. She's busy.
We've had a couple of Saturdays where it was Halloween,
so uh, but we have her on today and definitely
busy coming Friday. Yes, she'll be a busy camper. Yeah,
well not a camper, but you know what, you know
what I mean, And she's probably making potions all this week.
(05:53):
I'll have to ask her today. I wonder if the
like when this time of the year that I am
Newt and all those if that becomes the shortage, you know,
there's a shortage out there. How's that? You know, supplying
the man happened, you know, right before Halloween. She wouldn't
just try to check that out. She'll probably have a
frog in her throat when we get to talk to
her really, as usually does. He starts talking as a
(06:15):
frog in her throat and it's you know, we got Rita,
we got the doctor triple A, not doctor Z. You
thought I was gonna say doctor Z, didn't you. I
thought you were going to say the arbor doctor. Well
he's I was gonna say Hender. He is not down under.
He made it. I think he made it back this week.
(06:36):
He was supposed to make it back anyway, but with
the airline things, he was not sure he was going
to get back home. But yeah, he's going to be
here next Saturday and we're going to do a little
update of his trip. But he was he was at
an internet Christmas Do I preview Christmas trees? We could absolutely,
absolutely we could. But he he just came back from
(06:59):
uh an International Society of Agriculture meeting out so he could.
It was a business trip on the camel uh uh right,
as he was a camel jockey, and uh. He came
back with a very interesting thing that they're doing now.
Uh the tree wounds. I'm not going to give it away,
(07:20):
but sealing off the trees to prevent insect or disease issues.
We don't use a tar anymore. Huh. There's a new
method that they've been doing on in some of the
other states and it's been very effective using fire. I
was gonna say, a big band aid fire. He just
gave it away. Very interesting. So he's going to talk
about that now everybody will forget what we're going to
(07:41):
talk about. Oh, okay, and then Gary and Gary Salvin
and Buggy Joe still doing still hanging in there. Goodness,
he went along last year. Nothing well it stays warmer,
you know, things are going on out there. But yeah,
he was on late late last year as well, so well,
fucking Joe Bogs. All right, Well, the Facebook page is
(08:02):
Ron Wilson online dot com. That's not the fake, that's right,
that's a website. You threw me off this back then
it was at Okay, the website is Ron Wilson online
dot com.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Facebook page in the garden with Ron Wilson. Hit that out, Dan,
So the chat rooms up. Hopefully people are enjoying them.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
We've been doing this so long. It's like a I
just you know, you just I totally. That was my fault.
I've started out this thing differently and it kind of
throws you off. It's right, hope.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Hopefully people are enjoying the graphics. I haven't gotten any feedback.
I am enjoying them immensely. My wife enjoys them. She
thinks she's funny. They're funnier in the heck. This week
we got a Halloween motif. So check out the read
the too, the graphic on a well, on the on
the Facebook page there's a special one. Yeah, so check
(08:58):
that out and on the website. First of all, there
was a segment I guess from CBS Sunday Morning, Yes,
about someone who I guess takes care of dead plants. Yeah,
you're coming more in your dead plant on your dead plant. Yeah,
and I create a special graphic for that. By the way,
Oh did you Yeah?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
I didn't. I didn't pay attention to that, so so yeah,
you gotta gotta gotta check that out. It is a
really cool I did second that you did because you're
the way, because that's right, because you said, how'd you
do that?
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's I remember. Now I'm getting old, Joe, so am I?
So am I? I keep telling people it was the
twenty first anniversary of my thirtieth birthday.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Pretty good. It kind of sounds pretty good. Still sound young?
I like it.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
So we got we got that up on the website.
Rita's recipe this Week Yes, or her potion this week Yes,
is something called monster mash, and she got that from
Pauladine's cookbook, and she credited I would eat that, except
I would also add, uh.
Speaker 1 (10:02):
I know what you're gonna say. What you said, I
agree with you. Half a pound of ground beef. You
got it. I was going to say, ground beef or
spicy sausage or cheriso. Yeah, I would have that. There's two.
So I looked at the picture. I made it drew up, Yeah,
made it bigger than I thought. Is that meat in that?
Is that? Just?
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, there's there's two cans of refried beans. I would
take one of the cans of refried beans and sub
a like a half a pound of ground beef or
something like.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Exactly. I knew what you were going to say because
I was I was looking at the picture saying.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
And instead of some meat, instead of tortilla chips, I
would use the tostito scoops.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, those teas, Yeah, the ones that are laid
like a little ball. Yeah, exactly, the way you get
more stuff. Oh absolutely, that would be perfect. So well,
we'll call it a combo recipe, but I would take
it like it is. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
And Rita is showing off her which is hat she
got a new one. Yeah, so check out the witch's hat,
her new witch's hat that she got on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I was checking out some things the other day and
I found the old file that says, yes I can
dry the stick.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Yeah that you put up there one year. Yeah, with
the broom. Yeah, so check out Rita's recipe of the
week and the plants of the week.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yes, plants. Since it's a next week is going to
be November, so we're going to do the scary Halloween plants.
This spooky plants.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
The first one's the Devil's Walking stick. Now that really
one of your favorites. I love that plant. You know what,
if you see it, it's really cool. And everybody says, well,
it's got the big thorns on it and all that,
why would I want to mess with it? And there's
a great history behind that plant, by the way, is
why it has the thorns and all. But you the
way you plant that is you plant it. You put
a big ten foot circle around it with mulch and
(11:49):
just stay away from it and let it do its thing.
Flowers are cool, the berries are full cool. The planet
itself is gorgeous, kind of multi stem. They have like
a clump. But just plant it, big mold ring around it.
Don't just stay away from it and enjoy it. It's
a really nice plant. And so is the other one
we're going to talk about it. Yeah, pon cyrus. And
pont Cyrus is a hardy citrus. It actually will flower
(12:12):
and form a small golf ball sized orange citrus. I
guess it's in the an orange. Very bitter, but it's
really cool and it's hardy for our area. First time
I ever saw that was at the Society Botanical Garden
and zoo, and then Kevin O'Dell gave me one to
plant for my grandson. Absolutely love that plant. And it
will get you when you plan it. Trust me, you
(12:35):
will get stuck. But again, plant it big maltring around
it and just stay away from it.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Let it do its thing and forget it. Great white
flowers in this in the springtime. But it's a hardy citrus.
Very cool for zone five, I think so, yeah two.
But they're very spooky looking plants. Yeah cool.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Well, all the callers that call in today that get through,
tell run your favorite Halloween Halloween candy. That's that's the
tradition used to do. Used to put the voting out there.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
Yeah, when we.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Used to do what actual chat room live with a
with a pole but yeah, that was a long time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, but you somehow that always jelly beans always won. Well,
somehow jelly bean's always won for Halloween. Jee actually Christmas
recy Cups always won for Halloween. I don't know how
that ever happened. By the way, what's your favorite? Joee
cups and candy jelly beans? Somehow, Joe that seemed to
(13:27):
always win. People are just people just want to be
like me. I guess, I guess it's a candy. Yeah there,
Joe candy. Yep.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So all right, I'm gonna before I get in more
any more trouble, I'm gonna get out of.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
Here, all right. Joe Strecker, executive producer. If you like it,
we see on our website. It's Ron Wilson online dot com.
Facebook page is in the garden front Wilson see Joe
new he listens. If you like what you see on there,
Joe Strecker had everything to do with it. Something there.
You don't like your question, you say, yeah, Joe, you
need to get that off there. Well, don't asked, Joe.
Don't blame Joe.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Don't blame me. It's not my fault. It's not his fault.
It's doctor's he's fault. Washington d C.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He's too busy, halloweening already is treating already and how
Washington d C. Washington d C. Garden eighty three stress
dresses up poor Bowser and Halloween costumes every day. Poor
dog on his best driving around and who's on that
back seat? The This is sweet Tart with the big
(14:29):
rock on the left hand. Mm hmmm, don't dress up Bowser.
You think he's having fun, but he's really not. No, now,
really he's plotting your death. How do I stop this?
I don't want to dress up like a Halloween al right.
He put those buns on his side like a Wiener dog.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
I wouldn't do that. I know I would not do that. Now,
now there is a really cool Halloween costume. It's like, uh,
a Michael Myers costume. And when the dog kind of
walks like you know, back and forth, the arms move.
So yeah, so that's cool. That one I would probably do,
not maybe not maybe on Hans, but maybe on Fritzy.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
On the bigger dog. No Fritzy, because he's the cutest.
Oh yeah, all right, okay, I gotta go fight. Bite
Joe Strecker, thank you so much. Eight hundred eight two
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(15:35):
five five talking about yarding as we are, we went
our way through the month of October, as Joe and
I were talking about, and again, I want to just
very quickly because we're going to go into the break
here because we rambled on too long. I just want
to remember this frost and freeze thing. Don't let that
turn you off. As far as planting. Frosts obviously are
going to take out annuals, are going to take out
(15:56):
tropical plants, things like that. So if you've got plants
you go to overwinter in, you need to get those
in and get a protective from the frosts or light freeze.
But when we're getting freezes right now, those soil temperatures
are way too warm to cause any problem. You know,
nothing's gonna freeze in the ground. That's a long way off.
So you let Mother Nature's frost and you let Mother
(16:16):
Nature's early freezes take out the foliage of your annuals,
and take out the foliage of the tropical plants that
you're gonna dig up and overwinter they're tubers or rhizomes
or roots or whatever it may be in the unheated
or not a honey grubs, but in the basement or
storage area or wherever it's cool and dark, that you're
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gonna overwinter those if they don't freeze. But you've got
time to do left another date. You take the foliage
out first, dig them up later, and they ain't gonna
freeze yet, So you got plenty of time to get
those taken care of. Eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. That's our number here in the garden
with Ron will welcome back. You're in the garden with
Ron Wilson again. That toll free number eight hundred eight
(16:59):
two three eight two five five. Website run Wilson online
dot com. Uh. You know, Danny and I don't get
to Uh, we don't look at each other directly. We
see each other on the screens. Uh. He's in another
room around the corner here, and then we're in the
studio here and Dan came in today. He dug out
his old Casper, the ghost Halloween mask that he wore
as a kid, and so Dan is sitting there with
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his Casper the ghost mask on as he's running the
show it's quite uh, quite funny. It's a matter of fact,
looking on you're seeing Casper. Not even the kids you
did they even know Casper the ghost? No, probably not,
But yeah, it still fits you too, which is which
is amazing. Talking about yarding at eight hundred A two
three eight two five five, things are finally starting to
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shut down. The frosts that we're starting to get are
starting to knock out some of those annuals, probably doing
a number on the vegetable garden as well. I picked
my mom's final cherry tomatoes this past week, so she
got those, and now we'll get ready to toss out
the tomatoes and all. And of course, as year are
reading more and more about gardening and the new changes
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and concepts and things like that, what are we hearing
more about Leave the leaves, leave the plants, you know,
let things go over the winter and let's clean it
up in the springtime. And again it's for the health
of the wildlife and the pollinators and things that need
all that debrisf for overwintering. And of course the seededs
and all. Totally agree with you for me, talk about
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totally agree with it, except for a couple of things.
One is, and I think you'll see this more and more.
Finally they're adding this in to make sure folks understand.
We're talking about in perennial beds, landscape beds, maybe around
the trees, but you know that type of thing. But
you don't leave the leaves laying on your lawn. Now,
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we want to put the leaves back in the lawn,
but we're going to do that a little differently because
we're going to grind those up with the lawn mower.
So even if your lawn has started to shut down
then I say shut down, not growing like it normally
would be. As a matter of fact, again not much
mowing in our area this week because it's really starting
to slow down quickly, but as the leaves fall and
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we're just not getting to that, which is another crazy
thing for our area. I remember when this fall weather started,
leaves started changing and dropping in September. Now they start
dropping in September because it's dry, but you know, finally
starting to get fall colored leaves are going to really
start to drop here over the next couple of weeks. Well,
as that's happening, it's great to put those back into
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the landscape beds. Put those into the perennial beds, grind
them up, put them in even into the vegetable garden,
or grind them up and put them back into the turf.
You should be able to use up all the leaves
from your trees that drop in your yard. In your yard,
you shouldn't be sending any away to landfills or whatever.
It's amazing. Research has shown that you can drop, you
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can put six inches or more six inches deep of
leaves ground back up, you know, grinding them back up
every time you mow back into the and the benefits
of doing that are phenomenal. We see you're putting organic
matter back into the soil as you add. You know
what's funny is as you add those ground up leaves,
finally ground leaves, and that's the key, obviously, finally ground
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leaves and grass blades that do fall back into that
it's kind of like thin layer composting, so they work
together to break down adding organic matter back to the soil.
Earthworms absolutely love them. They love them. They'll come up
and grab those little bitty pieces and actually take them
back down into their tunnels where they then eat them
and produce earthworm poop, which is great for the soil.
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That's why I always say, pamper your earthworms. Pamper your worms,
because if your worms are happy, your soil is happy.
And if your soil is happy, everything's going to grow
in it. If it's the right plant in the right
spot is going to be happy as well. So again,
as we get into the leaf falling time the season here,
grind up as many as you can back into the turf,
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all right. If you think you got too many in
your uncomfortable with it, that's all right. Throw them back
into the landscape beds, back into the perennial beds. And
you know, and again we're talking about the cleanup and
leaving the perennials alone, and that's fine. I don't have
any problem with that. There's some that you know are
going to just turn the mush and kind of go
away anyway, like hostas. You know, you'll clean those out.
(21:18):
But the one area that you do want to clean
out is the vegetable garden. All right. We don't want
to leave the overwintering pepper plants and tomato plants and
that stuff in the vegetable garden. That is one area
I'm a firm believer in that you need to get
all that stuff out of there, clean it up, get
all of it away, because you know if you have
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any diseases, soil borne diseases, diseases that overwinter on the
folish itself, the roots is something you know, you wind
up leaving that there, and you want to get all
that out of there. That's something you throw maybe throw
in a compost pile, or you get rid of it somehow,
but you get that out of the vegetable garden. That
is an area we don't want to leave just looking already,
(21:59):
Nor do we want to leave the weeds that are
growing there as well. Make sure you get rid of those.
We do not want weeds getting a foothold in there
and throwing seeds out there. As we go into the
fall and late falling into the winter season, so again
vegetable gardens were going to clean out. And when we're
cleaning those out and getting rid of that material, this
is a good time to come back in and add
soil amendments. I love adding soil amendments to the vegetable
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garden or any of the gardens really in the fall
because as you do that, especially in the vegetable garden
or in those raised beds. As you're doing that, it
gives you the rest of this year, over the winter
and early spring for that to be churning and breaking
down and composting and kind of coming together. When you
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put it all in there in the springtime, you got
a lot of different things going on there, a lot
of things happening, and you can do that. It works,
but it works better as far as I'm concerned, doing
it in the fall and again lightly in the springtime.
But if you do that in the fall, can work
that in even if it's just a top dressing the
compost of material. The fall is a great time to
do that. Now, before you even do that, let's back
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up another step. Clean everything out of the vegetable garden,
get all the old stuff out of there, get some
soil samples, and have that soil tested. When's the last
time you had that done. Get the soil tested, and
I can tell you right now, if you lived in
our area, I tell you right now, it's going to
say you're lacking on nitrogenior phosphorus is high, and potash
could be anywhere over the board. And then you got
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to look at the micronutrients. It'll also show you how
much organic matter percentage you have in there, which you
might want to work on increasing. And I'll give you
the pH. And the pH is so important in the
soils because if the pH isn't at the right level
for what you're trying to grow in a vegetable garden,
it doesn't take up a lot of the nutrients that
are in the soil. They get locked up or the
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plant can't take them up. So you can adjust all
of those levels yet this fall and then do your
composting and adding organic matter. And if you till great,
you can tell in the fall. If you're not a tailor,
that's okay. You know, if you and there's a lot
of folks out there that you use shows broad forks
or a garden spade, the fork garden spade fork that
(24:10):
you can go in and just kind of crack the soil.
Those broad forks are that's pretty good workout. But you
can use those. Don't forget about the earthlifter tool. You know,
we talked about that cut last week as a matter
of fact with mister Neil who invented that thing. But
it can make that cracking of that soil very easy
for you. So if you're not a tiller, but you
want to break the soil a little bit. When you
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break the soil, you can throw some composts down in
those areas where you broke the soil. Think about those
tools as well. But this is a great time to
have your vegetable garden soil tested. Add the soil amendments
and what other amendments you need to add to make
things right, and give it all winter long so that
in the springtime it's pretty much ready to go. And
(24:52):
then you can go out, maybe lightly fluff up the
top or whatever, and start your playing thing and then
of course finished up by top dressing with some type
of compost to carry through the summer season. I think
that's a great way to go. But again when we
talk about leave the leaves, I'm all for it. I'm
all for leaving the perennials and that up. Let the
wildlife use them over the wintertime, clean them up, leave
the leaves, use them in your yard as mulch, top dressing,
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soil amendment compost. If you don't have a compost pile,
start a compost pile. This is a great time to
do that. You got a lot of debris out there,
that you want to start composting, start a compost pile
next year that becomes gardener's gold. And you go out
there and you scoop out that compost. Your neighbors are
gonna be like, where'd you get that stuff? And it's yours,
it's your compost. But again, the bottom line is, do
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all this stuff, but don't leave leaves, whole leaves laying
on the lawn. Can't do that, all right, You leave
them everywhere else, but don't leave them laying on the lawn.
Before we take a break, Nick and Dayton, good.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
Morning, Good morning, run Kenny.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
How are you, Dick? We are doing great? How about yourself? Good? Good? Good?
So what do you think about those angles for this
this Sunday? They're gonna win this Sunday, gonna be beat
the Jets. Good. Yeah, I'm surprised. They did pretty good
at Goods. The Steelers did they they did? I mean,
I think mister Falco is going to come here, Flacco
(26:14):
is going to come in here and then and do
a nice job. Yeah, I think so too. Now are
you watching it? You're watching the World Series? No?
Speaker 2 (26:23):
No, After the Guardians lost Get Home, but they had
a good year.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
They had a good year. That wouldn't have been something
with the Guardians and the Reds in the World Series.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
I want to see that.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
I would Well then who, then, who would you reroot for? Well?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Probably the Indians?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
Oh no, okay, that's all right. Yeah, you're my cousin,
and you know what, but I think it's I think
it's interesting because you're a you've been a Cleveland fan forever.
As you just referred to them as the Indians. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
There'll always be the Indies, right right, right. But I've
(27:06):
played a couple of gigs this week. Oh good, pretty,
it's been pretty good for me. But I'm waiting for
the Uh. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
To get watch the game tomorrow and uh but I'm
doing okay.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Good, what's always good hearing from you. We're going to
take a break, but Dick, you stay in touch with us, Okay,
I will, all right, bye bye, good talk away to
take a quick break. We come back, Katie in Delaware,
you're coming up next. Phone lines are open for you.
Eight hundred and I forgot to ask Dick his favorite
Halloween candy eight hundred A two three eight two five
five Here in the garden with Ron Wilson. We're talking
(27:39):
yardening at eight hundred eight two three eight two five
five and uh, don't forget our website, Ron Wilson online
dot com. Uh. I saw a segment on the CBS
Sunday Morning a couple of weeks ago, and it's the
Pride and Perils of plant parenthood folks that have lost
their house plants for whatever reason. And I think it
was a small four whatever set up like like a
(28:02):
funeral home, and you could bring your dead plant there
and then the there was a gentleman, there was like
a horticulturist, house plan expert. He could help to diagnose
what went wrong and then you know, you could have
a little service for your houseplant and then go on
from there. That was kind of funny, I mean, because
you know, plant plant the parenthood big thing now. I mean,
those are those are your kids and lots of you
(28:23):
can get names, and which I think is the worst
thing in the world to do, because when you lose
Sally or whoever, maybe makes it even harder, I think.
But anyway, it's a cute segment. It's a great segment.
You can go to our website and check it out.
At Ron Wilson online dot com. Read is doing the
monster mash with her recipe there and she'll be coming
up with us at the day after the top of
the hour, uh talking about finishing up in the vegetable garden.
(28:45):
We're talking about some of the herbs they use at
Halloween and a recipe as well, so be sure and
stay tuned for that. And in course at bottom of
the hour, doctor Allen Armities will join us as well,
talking your yarding of course, and as we start to
look at the holiday season. If you were growing your
and marillis from last year, from Christmas or the over
the wintertime, and you've had it growing and hopefully at
(29:07):
the end of August versus September, you let it go dormant,
cut the foliage off, and you've got it in storage
now storage being sitting dormant, dark, cool area, all right,
so it just sits there. Remember you want to keep
it in storage for at least six weeks, eight weeks
even better, right, six to eight weeks in total darkness, cool, dormant,
(29:31):
not growing, just sitting there resting. And then after at
least six weeks, if you can give it eight, that's
even better. You bring it out of the dark, cool area.
A lot of folks who just set them in like
a closet in the basement or something like that, keep
it as cool as you can, bring it out, light watering,
get some moisture back in that soil, and you know,
(29:54):
get the light to it, and then watch and it'll
start to regrow. And typically once they start to regrow, oh,
it takes about six weeks or maybe longer for that
thing to flower. All right, So think about what I've
just said. If you are doing this process with your
own amarillas, that you were growing all you know, up
(30:15):
until the first of September. So now we're talking a
six to six or twelve to sixteen week period before
we see it flowering. And if you count from when
you first made it go torment until the flowering period,
we're getting to that point are fairly close to hopefully
bringing it out of the dormancy period and firing it
(30:37):
up for if you wanted to flower during the holiday
season six to eight weeks back, right, So if you
would want that to start to happen, you're talking about
getting it growing the first week or so of November,
second week of November for flowering mid to late December
and first of January. Now, if you want to make them,
have them flower later, you just leave the dormant. You
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just leave them there, don't let them grow, and they
just sit there nice and dark and whatever, and then
you bring them out later and fire them up and
give yourself later color into the winter season. But if
you're trying to time it for the holidays, you're starting
to take a look at that six to eight week
dormant period and then another six weeks plus for it
to flower once it starts regrowing. So kind of keep
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that in mind as we cruise to the fall season
here if you're trying to time it to do that. Now,
paper whites, which is another favorite for the holiday season,
usually takes a lot less time for them to flower.
And a lot of folks I know a lot of
folks in our area that will actually families will get
several bulbs. Everybody gets their own container like with some gravel,
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nestle them in little water in the bottom, and then
see who can come closest to a specific date as
far as getting them to flower, because you can control
how quickly they flower. And amoroll is kind of the
same way. By the temperature in the room. So if
they're coming along too fast, you get them, put them
where the little cooler, they slow down. Put them where
it's warmer, they speed up, and then you can kind
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of see who wins the contest for you're getting get
the flower at a specific time. That's for paper whites.
And do remember if you've had problems with paper whites
in the past at the holidays overgrowing and then falling over,
which they will do in the house. So get tall
and they just flop and you gotta tie them up
or do something. Two things to help against that. One
is keep them cooler they stay shorter. Two is you
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can actually pot them up in a vase that has
a taller vase with gravel in the bottom and drop
them in there. Place them in their gravel with a
little bit of water, and the vase helps to hold
the foliage upright. And then when it flowers, it's in
the vase and flowering at the top and they don't
flop or last but not least, you can use a
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splash of alcohol as in liquor clear alcohol, vodka, gin,
anything like that, a splash in the water when you're
watering the paper white bulbs will help to keep them shorter,
but they still flower just like they normally would, so
it actually helps to keep shorter. So a little splash
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in your water of usually most people just use vodka,
and I'm talking just to a little splash. That's all
you need. Maybe if you want to put a little
splash for you too, that's fine, but that really helps
to keep it shorter. But again, we're looking at time
right now where the timing can be critical. If you're
looking for holiday colors for your ambillas that you've been
growing all along, start to look at where we are
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there as far as getting them started for holiday color. Last,
but not least, on those holiday plants. If you've been
growing a Christmas cactus and you have not been able
to get it to flower at Christmas time, remember that
Christmas cactus are like ponsettias. They are daylight sensitive, so
as the days get darker, that helps to set up
flower buds. We'll typically back off on the water and
(33:59):
keep them a little bit dryer through October sometimes that
will help. But here's the key, and I think this
is really important. If you have one in a window sill,
or you have one outside in the shady area that
you've put outside in the summertime and they experience several
days of that fifty degree nighttime temperatures. That fifty degree
(34:21):
cooler temperatures for about a week or so really helps
to create the flower buds on your Christmas cactus. So
if you haven't had that happen, you don't see any
flower buds starting to form yet, you might want to
just we don't want it to get frosted. We just
want to expose it to cooler temperatures. And usually, you
know we said nice days, it's you know, sixty seventies
(34:43):
nighttime gets down into the fifties, upper forties maybe, but
fifty ish, lower fifties. That's perfect to help set up
for the flower buds. So keep that in mind as
well for those Christmas cactus that you were not able
to get to flower in the past. And do we
remember there is a Thanksgiving cactus that would you typically
flowers earlier, and if you look at them, they're all
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these are all different. There is a Christmas cactus that
flowers around the holiday season, and there's an Easter cactus
that usually flowers sometime in late winter early spring. So
there are three to actually three different types of them
out there for you. But again timing very important, so
do keep that in mind as we go along. All right,
don't forget our website. It's Ron Wilson Online dot com,
Facebook page. In the Garden with Ron Wilson, our number
(35:27):
eight hundred eight two three eight two five five. Coming
up next, Rita Hikenfeld. We'll talk with Riata about her
recipe and herbs in the Garden and herbs for the
Halloween season. Oh yeah, she knows all about that. Bottom
of the hour, Doctor Triple A, doctor Allen Apple, Armities
will join us as well. It's all happening here in
the Garden with Ron Wilson.
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