July 24, 2025 • 50 mins
#164. Adam Wright has an Austin-inspired fever dream, Stella and the Very Messed break up with the past, Joe Alterman + Mocean Worker pay tribute to a soul jazz legend. Ron shares new faves from Atsuko Chiba, POLICA + more.Sponsored by DistroKid. Get 30% off your membership at distrokid.com/vip/independentmindedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're the one that should be worried. You're a freak.
You're reading for Big Trouble.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Greetings from gorgeous San Diego. Wish you were here. Like
most other nerds and clowns from around the world, I'm
at comic Con. Sure I'm getting paid, but even if
it was on my dime, you don't gotta do much
convincing to get me out this way, because I love
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this town, especially with the option of some California fish, tacos,
some Mexican servesa, and spending an hour with you and
these eleven new songs made by independent artists from around
the globe. Hey, toss me some tortillas, and this wouldn't
be an episode of eleven if I didn't let the
artists through the talking. We'll hear from a Canadian experimental
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rock band about organized religion, a Nashville songwriter about a
cattle filled fever dream, a Texas troubadour about breaking up
with the past. And some inspired soul jazz composers about
a sample filled party starter. Let me have those line wedges.
It's a musical mish mash, a hodge podge, if you will,
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But the constant is they're all made by independent minded musicians.
Chop about that cabbage, will you? So I'm gonna start
charring my cod and let these eleven artists take the wheel.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'll be back five.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey, this is Adam Dorn aka Motion Worker, and I
want to thank the folks that Independent Minded for asking
me to speak about recording that Joe Alterman and myself
just released. It's a song called Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. It
is a loving tribute to the great lesmacann and also
a loving tribute sixties soul jazz.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
All my life, I've heard this kind of music. Oh sure,
So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If you get this over to the BBO, man, you
got something going.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There's just not music being made like this anymore. And
it's the kind of music that people here and they go.
You know, I think I don't hate jazz. A lot
of current jazz or jazz music in general, I think
scares people and it makes people think that it feels
like homework. And Joe and I we were both very
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close with Less. I played with Less when I was
a young man, but Joe and Less were dear friends
and spoke on the phone on a daily basis. And
when Less passed away. At the end of twenty twenty three,
we had an occasion to meet Joe and I and
I just said, hey, we should make a record honoring Less.
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And this is the first single from that record. And
we made it with love, and we made it with
love for not only Less but in an entire era
of music. So when you listen to this, think of
not only Less, but Ramsey Lewis and Ama Jamal and
Eddie Harris and that entire esthetic. So I hope you
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enjoy it. And I really want to thank the folks
that independent minded for asking me to speak about our recording.
So as Les McCann would.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Stay stand.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Stand sta.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Ya, Wow, let's run that back.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I didn't know that you could do that.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Gona going not far away and a.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Land und vents changed.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Everything is one. You got it? Think you got a
hub monts me doing.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
A really turned me a bull. Something to take every
day asser from.
Speaker 10 (08:01):
The Poma that's behind it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I'm trying rolling it back from my London.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Can you get an answer?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You try it?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
So let us a future.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Away by it.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Bring round really not turn me.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
On Russo to take along every day as from the poma,
that's behind it.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
It's nice that you know you don't be.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'm struggling to the silence.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I'm trying well.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Back from it. And the thing is.
Speaker 9 (09:13):
You got selling us a future. Why by then you
off to get back stealing the b everybody wants mon
you bring me up, bring me.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
All around, really up, turned me off.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
Row something to take every day.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
That's behind It's.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
Not that annoying, you don't.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm shuggling.
Speaker 11 (10:00):
So where do your dreams go? It's hard to explain.
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Will I close my eyes? My dam is in state.
I don't waste my time. My ass isn't home.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
I do word, I can't the count to the mall
and collapse with the sun. Where do your dream's going?
Speaker 11 (11:07):
It's all to its fine. We weren't close my.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Eyes my dream don't say I don't waste my time.
Horace is and hopes. I told the count the go
to the mall and collapse with the sun. Baby son.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Call me.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
Jos bedless day. I see all, I see the star
face all see Then.
Speaker 12 (11:48):
You are hand s.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Up.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
I guess where.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Love you?
Speaker 10 (12:11):
Just the true fill? Where later they all believe you?
Where they are bold?
Speaker 9 (12:35):
Where does my logol away we know around me your.
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Love doesn't say I'm thing about ending the way will go. Yeah,
that's just a lay. That's just the way that so
long by the muscle how a man thus aeless.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Pass h see.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Says back going Holy see the next back come.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's Polissa with Dreams Go, the title track from the
Minneapolis band's forthcoming new album, out October thirteenth, for that
La dream pop band Space Base with Everything is Money
from the album Lunar Manor out August twenty second on
Mothland and we kick things off with Joe Alterman and
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Motion Worker and yeah, yeah, yeah off the album Keep
the Line Open, out September twenty sixth on Royal Potato Family.
If you can see yeah, the numbers will go to eleven.
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Adam Wright's music has been featured on Eleven before, and
he continues to reveal new sides of an ambitious four
port solo album. Here's Adam to tell us about what inspire.
The latest single from that project, a song called All
the Texas.
Speaker 14 (14:44):
All the Texas is a song about one night in
Austin opening for my friend, the Great Patty Griffin. Some
of it is literal. Actually what happened, and some of
it is figurative and a sort of mythological retelling of events.
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Patty has always had this kind of sorceress quality to
her that made me want to tell the story and
write the song as more of a myth, you know,
with lots of symbolism and mystery. The song just kind
of keeps pounding and like building momentum and speed, and
the imagery becomes more sort of fever logic and symbolic
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as it goes on, almost like you're sort of under
a spell and then you end up in it's daylight
and you're on the street and the blood and all
of that, and that actually that part is true. And
I love what Glen Worf and Matt Chamberlain played on this.
I mean, it's just just like a train off the tracks.
They just keep shoveling cold into the engine and it
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was so much fun. It was actually the first song
that we cut for the album, and this was the
first take. It was a great way for us to
just kind of get in there and kick each other
in the head and see what we were going to
get up to. The song is about one night in Austin, Texas,
Fever Dream involving the great Patty Griffin, hope.
Speaker 15 (16:13):
You dig it did the late sixty brazzels like a
sleepy man.
Speaker 16 (16:18):
Then an as short man in a portable held the
door and said for me in a rodeo and a
cattle hat, swinging and winding.
Speaker 15 (16:28):
Them out through the doorway, you know, sit down and
all the.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Head about.
Speaker 15 (16:36):
Texasty in a lobby the dress school, so like saying
all thirty three.
Speaker 16 (16:48):
I swam up through the front of desk see a
man of atarchy after the.
Speaker 15 (16:54):
Elevator up to the second floor, and I swear I
heard some out you see it before they closed the
door about.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The Texas sty.
Speaker 16 (17:13):
A butterfly the suit jeeves and I land it on
of it. My mom was like a chore room right
before the vergs red. I churched on something clean, and
I churched down to the bar, said Kimmy something to me.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
He bought something in a jar cit.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Here's about.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
The Texas.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
County.
Speaker 16 (17:42):
And the next thing I remember, I remember like good dream.
I was following some song, I was hearing someone saying.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
And I was in between more towers.
Speaker 16 (17:54):
I was in in the afternoon, between the shore and
water and a stall waterloo and I finally found the
scene her by.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
The police made of stall.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Hertue was dark and moody.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
She was singing all along.
Speaker 16 (18:11):
So I soon a market on and I have again
a play because she sang off thirteen verses mother.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Which is a wedding day, and it made a kind
of magic.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
It a wools, so it kind of.
Speaker 16 (18:25):
Spilled and the whether her eye was drained, and I
was drunk.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
I couldn't sit, but.
Speaker 15 (18:31):
I remember she was dancing, and I was dancing to
in the city.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
She ect under.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Every time she stalled, her stood, and there was toos,
and in.
Speaker 14 (18:42):
A rhythm there was citizen in a rhyme.
Speaker 16 (18:45):
I taste the Colorado, or I could tease the Colonel's wine.
Speaker 15 (18:50):
And all along on the gables and frozen by the song.
Speaker 16 (18:55):
Stampede is to my brain inst the wits in the
room on today hit sixtymbrassels like a drunken marching van.
I was standing on the corner with a guitar in
my hand, and I lived in last night's blood, laying
on this morning street.
Speaker 9 (19:16):
I set out loud and norm not even me. That's
about all.
Speaker 16 (19:24):
Texas, I can'tee, that's about.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
The Texas.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I Can'tee.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's Adam Wright featuring Patty Griffin with all the Texas
from Nature of Necessity, out September twenty fifth. From an
Austin inspired song, we turned to an Austin based act
and the quirky, emotional indie rock of Stella and the
Very Mess. The band's sophomore album is due in September,
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and it's the title track is the first to be released.
Here's Stella to tell us about making a song about
breaking up with the past.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
Hi, my name is Stella and I sing in a
band called Stella.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
In the Very Mest.
Speaker 17 (20:12):
My main co writer, Dave, often writes and records little riffs, beats,
chord progressions, and he always assigns a mostly random titled
each one. So he actually came up with the name
for this song before I had any melody or lyrical content.
I just really liked the name, and when he played
me the verse part, I immediately was bobbing my head
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along and the melody flowed right out from me my
heart and head and limbs, and it was like I'd
known the song for years. I think this song feels
nostalgic and fun on the surface, but underneath it's a secret.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Sad song for me.
Speaker 17 (20:50):
Actually the song is about nostalgia, which is an uncomfortable
feeling for me. For some reason, I think other people
like it. But the song's good, I think, and I've.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Welly that s.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
A copy.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Copies only are selling.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Shredest three stays.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I don't know you and you will never know me.
Speaker 18 (21:33):
Strange is one another. My change is never bested.
Speaker 19 (21:46):
Now. I promised your chat again, Jemmy, But what we're
gonna be strange is farend.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The strange is for end of the jap back to
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the street called.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I judged him as you about Master.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Said, and Leaven and Leaven.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And leven he's he's.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
He's reaching. So that don't don't say.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Here any nomson, just you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And as.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
You know, sayself to say that, I say, don't thin that, see.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Say the fool.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
It's skilled me had the say youself to say that.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You don't think that, think sayself to say that they
can't see wait tat so to say say tay so
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say that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Do yourself a favor by Coach Party from the album
Caramel coming September twenty sixth on Chess Club. Before that
Big Familiar, the title track from the new album by
Stella and the Very Messed Out September nineteenth on Double
Helix Records. You know I got five more coming out
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of the break, including a triple shot of Independent Minded alumni,
some deeply moving songs about grief, and a new post
punk tune in which a holy Man does some bumps.
Don't bump that skip button. Dear distro Kid, you know
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it's been a whole year now being together. So instead
of a fancy ad with upbeat music, cartoon voices and
sound effects, I thought I'd take a moment to peel
back the curtain and show you the real maid, show
you the real meal. I've never met anyone like you before.
Usually when I meet someone new, I feel awkward and shy,
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but with you, it's different. I can talk to you,
you know what I'm thinking without my having to explain it.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
To you in fancy terms.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Distro Kid, I love you. I love Thank you distro
Kid for being the title sponsor of Independent Minded for
the past year. And if you love the idea of
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Speaker 3 (28:46):
I love.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Fix Hello.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It warms my heart whenever I see any of my
former guests pumping out new art. So why not get
that resting pulse rising by featuring three of them in
a row. This first cat is one of my faves.
My interview with Jesse Daniel Edwards for episode one thirty
four of Independent Minded was particularly memorable thanks to Jesse's
unique poetry and pontifications.
Speaker 20 (29:18):
We were recently in Germany and Belgium, and I'm acquiring
a taste for beer. I'm really kind of a wine
whiskey guy, but usually together, you know, But with beer,
I'm learning to like beer. Belgian beer was the way
into that. And I was talking to these Belgian craft
brewers and like, I was like, your beer is so
frickin good. How come it's so hard to find? They're like,
because it's so good. People want Heineken and Stella and Budweiser.
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Because they're aiming for average, because average is what most
people can accept. When you make music that is an average,
you can't get upset that the average person isn't getting it.
You're talking about something they will never ever.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Feel or encounter.
Speaker 20 (29:55):
Just be happy that you're not average. I am shout
out to a dream.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Jesse's just released an impressive EP called Requiem Mass, featuring
some rollicking piano rock best displayed on this track Biting
off the hand that feeds.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's coming back in the morning. It's sleeping right down
the hall.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Don't it more?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And black and white, it's just boring.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Pull up your.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Feeds, feed me car.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
The pause.
Speaker 21 (30:46):
It makes sauce squeze pulling it just up Fenton.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Squeezing tele place, but.
Speaker 21 (31:00):
It it's coming back home nightfall through a seed.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
One to the bride for.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
The censored version is delightful.
Speaker 21 (31:22):
They had changed everything, but the tidele the product keeps
us settle struggle.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Don't even space net the don't a man fair of me?
Speaker 10 (31:40):
But do then what your name by on the Hallfitt.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Searching for the sun?
Speaker 19 (32:00):
Stop using that.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
So mus in messing money.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Let's got to return and let's got telefther have you
seen those sort.
Speaker 22 (32:33):
In the program is completely don't speak to even bread.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
The holocausts.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Child, They're watching you. Ask your bread, they're squeezing you.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Tell your friend to give you what you'd mine. What's
your name?
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Son eleven.
Speaker 22 (33:28):
Bemose moi anddo fevamus mariand fetbrei fetarbry Samtham Manto beta
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no horsuon they be, they say, roll parsun the bearray
be there, say.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
The bars be.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
They would be bas.
Speaker 22 (34:40):
Sammy Manto.
Speaker 23 (34:47):
Beta, Ullo Flo Bolo.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Saies uh.
Speaker 22 (35:43):
Boo, sass Almo.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Ball sas Saddam.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Back when you just pull.
Speaker 24 (36:29):
Running around down on streets in Mexico, only rain a fee, cour.
Speaker 8 (36:39):
Stars for ru fan stone for a pillow. Then you
came to us a creature from the wild, but you behaved.
Speaker 9 (37:01):
Like up a child, and you saved us.
Speaker 24 (37:10):
For a while, back when you were just a boy
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living in a garbage been behind the motorien.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Lift the throne in your pall.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
The sweetest heart with a warm inside of it.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
And you came to us.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
And started and you looked at us. Everything was fine,
A new saved dogs.
Speaker 25 (38:17):
For a while, And you came to us, a creature
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from the world, but you behaved us.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Light up, perfect child, A new saved dog.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
For wow, and you say.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Them for wah.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Creature of the Wild, The latest single off fruit Bat's
new album Baby Man, out September twelfth on Merge Records.
I interviewed Eric Johnson on episode one on one of
this podcast six years and three lifetimes ago while living
in Washington, DC. The new fruit Bat song is a
poignant tribute to Eric's recently departed dog, and having experienced
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pet loss of my own in recent years, this one
hits hard. Sorry for your loss, Eric, I feel your pain.
Speaker 22 (39:45):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
The creamy center of our Independent Minded Alumni triple Shot
is Paul Spring, who, in very Paul Spring fashion, decided
to record an album sung in classical Latin.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know, just for kicks.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
The Queen based musician was featured on episode one fifty
two of Independent Minded and we heard Memento Vitee from
his new self released record Vita Brevis or Viva Levita
and all his brevis Jesse Daniel Edwards kicked us off
with his unique brand of dramatic piano rock and biting
off the hand that feeds. Jesse's companion EP Catechism and
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Mass will also be out by the time this reaches
your ears. If you can see, yeah, the numbers will
go to eleven. As Gordon Getko once said, grief is
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good or was it greed? Either way, grief is our
price for living and loving, and if it's good for anything,
it can provide a cathartic experience when taken into the
studio or paired with the pen. The inspiring Alan Sparhawk,
who for years co wrote with his late partner Mimi
Parker in low has graced us with a new album
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laced with Lowe's trade mark sparse arrangements and Sparhawk's melancholy melodies.
One song from the recent album with Trampled by Turtles
that particularly stands out is Not Broken. It's one of
a few from the new album, conceptualized by Sparhawk and Parker,
now fully realized with the couple's daughter Hollis on vocals,
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Not Broken as perhaps the most poignant oral affirmation of
all the people vital in Sparhawk's life and music, an
opportunity to hold each of their gifts into the light.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
One of these days.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I'm gone.
Speaker 26 (41:50):
There's something probably ready, So turn on the bright light,
turn up the drum, turn up Brody do.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
No, it's not bro.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (42:32):
It's not Broain, I'm not. It's not bro.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
I'm not. It's not brown. I'm not whlet sun.
Speaker 12 (43:12):
So dam.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Who does.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Who does.
Speaker 9 (43:30):
Les?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Side? It's dam who does? Who do rock?
Speaker 12 (43:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (43:59):
It's not broke.
Speaker 23 (44:04):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (44:10):
It's not broke, not broke.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Alan Sparhawk with Trampled by Turtles and his daughter Hollis
and Not Broken Off. Sparhawk's new album out now on Subpop.
Speaker 27 (44:40):
One, two, three, four five. Eleven's the number for me,
don't you see? Eleven's the number for me.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Let's cope without grief and turn things up to eleven
the best way we know how by doing coke? Or
how about a song that covers the topic at least,
and let's pair it with what else? Organized religion. Montreal
experimental rock band at suko Chiba has become a recent
fave of mine. Their moody rock is always more than
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meets the eye, combining stunning visuals with an eclectic post
rock sound. The band's new single is No Exception. And
here's bassist David Palumbo to turn things up and tell
us about the religious commentary behind Pope's Cocaine.
Speaker 28 (45:30):
My name is David and I play bass in the
band the t suko Chiba. So Pope's and a song
called Climax Therapy, which is coming out in the next
couple of weeks. We're both born out of freeform jamming.
We decided to set up a multi track recording setup
at our studio so that we can capture all the
little interesting moments that were happening while we were either
warming up in between recording sessions or really just you know,
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shooting the shit and having some fun without a specific
goal in mind. We realized that in both of those
cases the songs were quite obviously there, so we decided
to just go with our instincts and follow those moments lyrically.
I would say that Pope's Cocaine focuses on organized religion
and the various forms of control that they employ on
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their followers. But at the same time, it's important to
note that we're looking at the other side of it too,
what are the origins of these religions and why were
they conceived? You know, it's not all negative. It's really
also about each side of it, where you know, it
allows people to have faith in things that they don't
understand or that are very difficult to go through, and
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I think it's important to kind of look at both
sides of that picture. Thank you so much for listening,
and we hope you enjoy Pope's Cocaine and the rest
of what we do.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
Well.
Speaker 5 (47:00):
What it is is X getting back.
Speaker 9 (47:03):
Liter ji critically, what's a go for mines?
Speaker 10 (47:05):
Sy look on the rational friends to go to school
sound then it was a proud to worry.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
They got sound like the side right somebody? If I
stud like, if I sound like, I'm so tied to
womsp dig, I'm the mom stop tig hop.
Speaker 21 (47:19):
Stop died, wm sup tim stop dying.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I'm the mom stop tiger.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
It's a coming stop the coming shops A good figure
got a fast the walls This rack to tell it?
Speaker 9 (47:38):
What is a light shot?
Speaker 29 (47:39):
The step jumping John drunk? What's nash good? Sub jup
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sush John dumping selfie flies?
Speaker 1 (48:31):
The rice is loss of frid we sight is more
and joy. I like like a loss of comslfs and brosers.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Locker JP cut off because I water.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
No Joe that yes job man, yes.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
Joke yess.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Big Thanks to the artists who shared stories and music
with us on eleven. Shout out to Kevin at Collaboro
Music Media, Taylor and Anna at Surefire Spencer at Tell
all your friends and Phil at Mothland for connecting me
with their artists. All music on Independent Mind that is
used with permission of the artist, artists legal guardians. You
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can check out this episode's full playlist at baldfreak dot
com slash podcast. And if you aren't in the artist
or work for one who wants to be featured on
Independent Minded, go ahead and stuff my inbox at Ron
at baldfreak dot com or slide into my d ms
on the socials at Baldfreak Music Independent Mind. It always was,
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it still remains a bald Freak Music production and me,
I'm still Ron Scalzo.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You're not national, You're a freak.
You're the one that should be worried. You're a freak.
You're reading for Big Trouble.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Greetings from gorgeous San Diego. Wish you were here. Like
most other nerds and clowns from around the world, I'm
at comic Con. Sure I'm getting paid, but even if
it was on my dime, you don't gotta do much
convincing to get me out this way, because I love
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this town, especially with the option of some California fish, tacos,
some Mexican servesa, and spending an hour with you and
these eleven new songs made by independent artists from around
the globe. Hey, toss me some tortillas, and this wouldn't
be an episode of eleven if I didn't let the
artists through the talking. We'll hear from a Canadian experimental
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rock band about organized religion, a Nashville songwriter about a
cattle filled fever dream, a Texas troubadour about breaking up
with the past. And some inspired soul jazz composers about
a sample filled party starter. Let me have those line wedges.
It's a musical mish mash, a hodge podge, if you will,
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But the constant is they're all made by independent minded musicians.
Chop about that cabbage, will you? So I'm gonna start
charring my cod and let these eleven artists take the wheel.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'll be back five.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hello.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Hey, this is Adam Dorn aka Motion Worker, and I
want to thank the folks that Independent Minded for asking
me to speak about recording that Joe Alterman and myself
just released. It's a song called Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. It
is a loving tribute to the great lesmacann and also
a loving tribute sixties soul jazz.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
All my life, I've heard this kind of music. Oh sure,
So what are you gonna do?
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Well?
Speaker 1 (02:07):
If you get this over to the BBO, man, you
got something going.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
There's just not music being made like this anymore. And
it's the kind of music that people here and they go.
You know, I think I don't hate jazz. A lot
of current jazz or jazz music in general, I think
scares people and it makes people think that it feels
like homework. And Joe and I we were both very
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close with Less. I played with Less when I was
a young man, but Joe and Less were dear friends
and spoke on the phone on a daily basis. And
when Less passed away. At the end of twenty twenty three,
we had an occasion to meet Joe and I and
I just said, hey, we should make a record honoring Less.
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And this is the first single from that record. And
we made it with love, and we made it with
love for not only Less but in an entire era
of music. So when you listen to this, think of
not only Less, but Ramsey Lewis and Ama Jamal and
Eddie Harris and that entire esthetic. So I hope you
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enjoy it. And I really want to thank the folks
that independent minded for asking me to speak about our recording.
So as Les McCann would.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
Say, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Stay stand.
Speaker 5 (04:37):
Stand sta.
Speaker 7 (05:30):
Ya, Wow, let's run that back.
Speaker 8 (07:28):
I didn't know that you could do that.
Speaker 5 (07:31):
Gona going not far away and a.
Speaker 7 (07:35):
Land und vents changed.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Everything is one. You got it? Think you got a
hub monts me doing.
Speaker 9 (07:53):
A really turned me a bull. Something to take every
day asser from.
Speaker 10 (08:01):
The Poma that's behind it.
Speaker 5 (08:06):
I'm trying rolling it back from my London.
Speaker 9 (08:23):
Can you get an answer?
Speaker 5 (08:27):
You try it?
Speaker 9 (08:29):
So let us a future.
Speaker 5 (08:32):
Away by it.
Speaker 9 (08:36):
Bring round really not turn me.
Speaker 6 (08:42):
On Russo to take along every day as from the poma,
that's behind it.
Speaker 9 (08:51):
It's nice that you know you don't be.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
I'm struggling to the silence.
Speaker 9 (09:04):
I'm trying well.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Back from it. And the thing is.
Speaker 9 (09:13):
You got selling us a future. Why by then you
off to get back stealing the b everybody wants mon
you bring me up, bring me.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
All around, really up, turned me off.
Speaker 9 (09:42):
Row something to take every day.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
That's behind It's.
Speaker 9 (09:51):
Not that annoying, you don't.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
I'm shuggling.
Speaker 11 (10:00):
So where do your dreams go? It's hard to explain.
(10:47):
Will I close my eyes? My dam is in state.
I don't waste my time. My ass isn't home.
Speaker 9 (10:59):
I do word, I can't the count to the mall
and collapse with the sun. Where do your dream's going?
Speaker 11 (11:07):
It's all to its fine. We weren't close my.
Speaker 9 (11:11):
Eyes my dream don't say I don't waste my time.
Horace is and hopes. I told the count the go
to the mall and collapse with the sun. Baby son.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
Call me.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
Jos bedless day. I see all, I see the star
face all see Then.
Speaker 12 (11:48):
You are hand s.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Up.
Speaker 10 (11:55):
I guess where.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Love you?
Speaker 10 (12:11):
Just the true fill? Where later they all believe you?
Where they are bold?
Speaker 9 (12:35):
Where does my logol away we know around me your.
Speaker 13 (12:43):
Love doesn't say I'm thing about ending the way will go. Yeah,
that's just a lay. That's just the way that so
long by the muscle how a man thus aeless.
Speaker 11 (13:06):
Pass h see.
Speaker 10 (13:09):
Says back going Holy see the next back come.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
That's Polissa with Dreams Go, the title track from the
Minneapolis band's forthcoming new album, out October thirteenth, for that
La dream pop band Space Base with Everything is Money
from the album Lunar Manor out August twenty second on
Mothland and we kick things off with Joe Alterman and
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Motion Worker and yeah, yeah, yeah off the album Keep
the Line Open, out September twenty sixth on Royal Potato Family.
If you can see yeah, the numbers will go to eleven.
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Adam Wright's music has been featured on Eleven before, and
he continues to reveal new sides of an ambitious four
port solo album. Here's Adam to tell us about what inspire.
The latest single from that project, a song called All
the Texas.
Speaker 14 (14:44):
All the Texas is a song about one night in
Austin opening for my friend, the Great Patty Griffin. Some
of it is literal. Actually what happened, and some of
it is figurative and a sort of mythological retelling of events.
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Patty has always had this kind of sorceress quality to
her that made me want to tell the story and
write the song as more of a myth, you know,
with lots of symbolism and mystery. The song just kind
of keeps pounding and like building momentum and speed, and
the imagery becomes more sort of fever logic and symbolic
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as it goes on, almost like you're sort of under
a spell and then you end up in it's daylight
and you're on the street and the blood and all
of that, and that actually that part is true. And
I love what Glen Worf and Matt Chamberlain played on this.
I mean, it's just just like a train off the tracks.
They just keep shoveling cold into the engine and it
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was so much fun. It was actually the first song
that we cut for the album, and this was the
first take. It was a great way for us to
just kind of get in there and kick each other
in the head and see what we were going to
get up to. The song is about one night in Austin, Texas,
Fever Dream involving the great Patty Griffin, hope.
Speaker 15 (16:13):
You dig it did the late sixty brazzels like a
sleepy man.
Speaker 16 (16:18):
Then an as short man in a portable held the
door and said for me in a rodeo and a
cattle hat, swinging and winding.
Speaker 15 (16:28):
Them out through the doorway, you know, sit down and
all the.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Head about.
Speaker 15 (16:36):
Texasty in a lobby the dress school, so like saying
all thirty three.
Speaker 16 (16:48):
I swam up through the front of desk see a
man of atarchy after the.
Speaker 15 (16:54):
Elevator up to the second floor, and I swear I
heard some out you see it before they closed the
door about.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
The Texas sty.
Speaker 16 (17:13):
A butterfly the suit jeeves and I land it on
of it. My mom was like a chore room right
before the vergs red. I churched on something clean, and
I churched down to the bar, said Kimmy something to me.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
He bought something in a jar cit.
Speaker 10 (17:32):
Here's about.
Speaker 9 (17:35):
The Texas.
Speaker 5 (17:37):
County.
Speaker 16 (17:42):
And the next thing I remember, I remember like good dream.
I was following some song, I was hearing someone saying.
Speaker 9 (17:52):
And I was in between more towers.
Speaker 16 (17:54):
I was in in the afternoon, between the shore and
water and a stall waterloo and I finally found the
scene her by.
Speaker 9 (18:04):
The police made of stall.
Speaker 15 (18:06):
Hertue was dark and moody.
Speaker 9 (18:09):
She was singing all along.
Speaker 16 (18:11):
So I soon a market on and I have again
a play because she sang off thirteen verses mother.
Speaker 9 (18:19):
Which is a wedding day, and it made a kind
of magic.
Speaker 11 (18:24):
It a wools, so it kind of.
Speaker 16 (18:25):
Spilled and the whether her eye was drained, and I
was drunk.
Speaker 9 (18:29):
I couldn't sit, but.
Speaker 15 (18:31):
I remember she was dancing, and I was dancing to
in the city.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
She ect under.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Every time she stalled, her stood, and there was toos,
and in.
Speaker 14 (18:42):
A rhythm there was citizen in a rhyme.
Speaker 16 (18:45):
I taste the Colorado, or I could tease the Colonel's wine.
Speaker 15 (18:50):
And all along on the gables and frozen by the song.
Speaker 16 (18:55):
Stampede is to my brain inst the wits in the
room on today hit sixtymbrassels like a drunken marching van.
I was standing on the corner with a guitar in
my hand, and I lived in last night's blood, laying
on this morning street.
Speaker 9 (19:16):
I set out loud and norm not even me. That's
about all.
Speaker 16 (19:24):
Texas, I can'tee, that's about.
Speaker 9 (19:34):
The Texas.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
I Can'tee.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
That's Adam Wright featuring Patty Griffin with all the Texas
from Nature of Necessity, out September twenty fifth. From an
Austin inspired song, we turned to an Austin based act
and the quirky, emotional indie rock of Stella and the
Very Mess. The band's sophomore album is due in September,
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and it's the title track is the first to be released.
Here's Stella to tell us about making a song about
breaking up with the past.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
Hi, my name is Stella and I sing in a
band called Stella.
Speaker 9 (20:11):
In the Very Mest.
Speaker 17 (20:12):
My main co writer, Dave, often writes and records little riffs, beats,
chord progressions, and he always assigns a mostly random titled
each one. So he actually came up with the name
for this song before I had any melody or lyrical content.
I just really liked the name, and when he played
me the verse part, I immediately was bobbing my head
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along and the melody flowed right out from me my
heart and head and limbs, and it was like I'd
known the song for years. I think this song feels
nostalgic and fun on the surface, but underneath it's a secret.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
Sad song for me.
Speaker 17 (20:50):
Actually the song is about nostalgia, which is an uncomfortable
feeling for me. For some reason, I think other people
like it. But the song's good, I think, and I've.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
Welly that s.
Speaker 11 (21:07):
A copy.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
Copies only are selling.
Speaker 10 (21:14):
Shredest three stays.
Speaker 5 (21:21):
I don't know you and you will never know me.
Speaker 18 (21:33):
Strange is one another. My change is never bested.
Speaker 19 (21:46):
Now. I promised your chat again, Jemmy, But what we're
gonna be strange is farend.
Speaker 3 (22:13):
The strange is for end of the jap back to
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the street called.
Speaker 5 (22:48):
I judged him as you about Master.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
Said, and Leaven and Leaven.
Speaker 5 (23:58):
And leven he's he's.
Speaker 9 (24:12):
He's reaching. So that don't don't say.
Speaker 12 (24:17):
Here any nomson, just you.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
And as.
Speaker 10 (24:35):
You know, sayself to say that, I say, don't thin that, see.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Say the fool.
Speaker 10 (25:09):
It's skilled me had the say youself to say that.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
You don't think that, think sayself to say that they
can't see wait tat so to say say tay so
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say that.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Do yourself a favor by Coach Party from the album
Caramel coming September twenty sixth on Chess Club. Before that
Big Familiar, the title track from the new album by
Stella and the Very Messed Out September nineteenth on Double
Helix Records. You know I got five more coming out
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of the break, including a triple shot of Independent Minded alumni,
some deeply moving songs about grief, and a new post
punk tune in which a holy Man does some bumps.
Don't bump that skip button. Dear distro Kid, you know
(27:45):
it's been a whole year now being together. So instead
of a fancy ad with upbeat music, cartoon voices and
sound effects, I thought I'd take a moment to peel
back the curtain and show you the real maid, show
you the real meal. I've never met anyone like you before.
Usually when I meet someone new, I feel awkward and shy,
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but with you, it's different. I can talk to you,
you know what I'm thinking without my having to explain it.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
To you in fancy terms.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
Distro Kid, I love you. I love Thank you distro
Kid for being the title sponsor of Independent Minded for
the past year. And if you love the idea of
thirty percent of your membership, go to DistroKid dot com
slash vip slash Independent Minded. If you're an indie music maker,
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like me. Distro Kid is the place to go for
the easiest and sexiest ways to handle your digital distro.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
I love.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
Fix Hello.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
It warms my heart whenever I see any of my
former guests pumping out new art. So why not get
that resting pulse rising by featuring three of them in
a row. This first cat is one of my faves.
My interview with Jesse Daniel Edwards for episode one thirty
four of Independent Minded was particularly memorable thanks to Jesse's
unique poetry and pontifications.
Speaker 20 (29:18):
We were recently in Germany and Belgium, and I'm acquiring
a taste for beer. I'm really kind of a wine
whiskey guy, but usually together, you know, But with beer,
I'm learning to like beer. Belgian beer was the way
into that. And I was talking to these Belgian craft
brewers and like, I was like, your beer is so
frickin good. How come it's so hard to find? They're like,
because it's so good. People want Heineken and Stella and Budweiser.
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Because they're aiming for average, because average is what most
people can accept. When you make music that is an average,
you can't get upset that the average person isn't getting it.
You're talking about something they will never ever.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Feel or encounter.
Speaker 20 (29:55):
Just be happy that you're not average. I am shout
out to a dream.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Jesse's just released an impressive EP called Requiem Mass, featuring
some rollicking piano rock best displayed on this track Biting
off the hand that feeds.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
It's coming back in the morning. It's sleeping right down
the hall.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Don't it more?
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And black and white, it's just boring.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
Pull up your.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
Feeds, feed me car.
Speaker 5 (30:45):
The pause.
Speaker 21 (30:46):
It makes sauce squeze pulling it just up Fenton.
Speaker 9 (30:55):
Squeezing tele place, but.
Speaker 21 (31:00):
It it's coming back home nightfall through a seed.
Speaker 10 (31:13):
One to the bride for.
Speaker 8 (31:20):
The censored version is delightful.
Speaker 21 (31:22):
They had changed everything, but the tidele the product keeps
us settle struggle.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Don't even space net the don't a man fair of me?
Speaker 10 (31:40):
But do then what your name by on the Hallfitt.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
Searching for the sun?
Speaker 19 (32:00):
Stop using that.
Speaker 10 (32:03):
So mus in messing money.
Speaker 9 (32:09):
Let's got to return and let's got telefther have you
seen those sort.
Speaker 22 (32:33):
In the program is completely don't speak to even bread.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
The holocausts.
Speaker 9 (32:41):
Child, They're watching you. Ask your bread, they're squeezing you.
Speaker 5 (32:47):
Tell your friend to give you what you'd mine. What's
your name?
Speaker 9 (33:07):
Son eleven.
Speaker 22 (33:28):
Bemose moi anddo fevamus mariand fetbrei fetarbry Samtham Manto beta
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no horsuon they be, they say, roll parsun the bearray
be there, say.
Speaker 9 (34:30):
The bars be.
Speaker 5 (34:35):
They would be bas.
Speaker 22 (34:40):
Sammy Manto.
Speaker 23 (34:47):
Beta, Ullo Flo Bolo.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Saies uh.
Speaker 22 (35:43):
Boo, sass Almo.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Ball sas Saddam.
Speaker 8 (36:25):
Back when you just pull.
Speaker 24 (36:29):
Running around down on streets in Mexico, only rain a fee, cour.
Speaker 8 (36:39):
Stars for ru fan stone for a pillow. Then you
came to us a creature from the wild, but you behaved.
Speaker 9 (37:01):
Like up a child, and you saved us.
Speaker 24 (37:10):
For a while, back when you were just a boy
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living in a garbage been behind the motorien.
Speaker 9 (37:43):
Lift the throne in your pall.
Speaker 8 (37:46):
The sweetest heart with a warm inside of it.
Speaker 9 (37:53):
And you came to us.
Speaker 8 (37:58):
And started and you looked at us. Everything was fine,
A new saved dogs.
Speaker 25 (38:17):
For a while, And you came to us, a creature
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from the world, but you behaved us.
Speaker 8 (38:52):
Light up, perfect child, A new saved dog.
Speaker 9 (39:02):
For wow, and you say.
Speaker 8 (39:08):
Them for wah.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
Creature of the Wild, The latest single off fruit Bat's
new album Baby Man, out September twelfth on Merge Records.
I interviewed Eric Johnson on episode one on one of
this podcast six years and three lifetimes ago while living
in Washington, DC. The new fruit Bat song is a
poignant tribute to Eric's recently departed dog, and having experienced
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pet loss of my own in recent years, this one
hits hard. Sorry for your loss, Eric, I feel your pain.
Speaker 22 (39:45):
Brother.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
The creamy center of our Independent Minded Alumni triple Shot
is Paul Spring, who, in very Paul Spring fashion, decided
to record an album sung in classical Latin.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
You know, just for kicks.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
The Queen based musician was featured on episode one fifty
two of Independent Minded and we heard Memento Vitee from
his new self released record Vita Brevis or Viva Levita
and all his brevis Jesse Daniel Edwards kicked us off
with his unique brand of dramatic piano rock and biting
off the hand that feeds. Jesse's companion EP Catechism and
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Mass will also be out by the time this reaches
your ears. If you can see, yeah, the numbers will
go to eleven. As Gordon Getko once said, grief is
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good or was it greed? Either way, grief is our
price for living and loving, and if it's good for anything,
it can provide a cathartic experience when taken into the
studio or paired with the pen. The inspiring Alan Sparhawk,
who for years co wrote with his late partner Mimi
Parker in low has graced us with a new album
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laced with Lowe's trade mark sparse arrangements and Sparhawk's melancholy melodies.
One song from the recent album with Trampled by Turtles
that particularly stands out is Not Broken. It's one of
a few from the new album, conceptualized by Sparhawk and Parker,
now fully realized with the couple's daughter Hollis on vocals,
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Not Broken as perhaps the most poignant oral affirmation of
all the people vital in Sparhawk's life and music, an
opportunity to hold each of their gifts into the light.
Speaker 9 (41:39):
One of these days.
Speaker 5 (41:41):
I'm gone.
Speaker 26 (41:50):
There's something probably ready, So turn on the bright light,
turn up the drum, turn up Brody do.
Speaker 9 (42:17):
No, it's not bro.
Speaker 5 (42:27):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (42:32):
It's not Broain, I'm not. It's not bro.
Speaker 5 (42:49):
I'm not. It's not brown. I'm not whlet sun.
Speaker 12 (43:12):
So dam.
Speaker 9 (43:17):
Who does.
Speaker 5 (43:23):
Who does.
Speaker 9 (43:30):
Les?
Speaker 5 (43:30):
Side? It's dam who does? Who do rock?
Speaker 12 (43:53):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (43:59):
It's not broke.
Speaker 23 (44:04):
I'm not.
Speaker 9 (44:10):
It's not broke, not broke.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
Alan Sparhawk with Trampled by Turtles and his daughter Hollis
and Not Broken Off. Sparhawk's new album out now on Subpop.
Speaker 27 (44:40):
One, two, three, four five. Eleven's the number for me,
don't you see? Eleven's the number for me.
Speaker 2 (44:54):
Let's cope without grief and turn things up to eleven
the best way we know how by doing coke? Or
how about a song that covers the topic at least,
and let's pair it with what else? Organized religion. Montreal
experimental rock band at suko Chiba has become a recent
fave of mine. Their moody rock is always more than
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meets the eye, combining stunning visuals with an eclectic post
rock sound. The band's new single is No Exception. And
here's bassist David Palumbo to turn things up and tell
us about the religious commentary behind Pope's Cocaine.
Speaker 28 (45:30):
My name is David and I play bass in the
band the t suko Chiba. So Pope's and a song
called Climax Therapy, which is coming out in the next
couple of weeks. We're both born out of freeform jamming.
We decided to set up a multi track recording setup
at our studio so that we can capture all the
little interesting moments that were happening while we were either
warming up in between recording sessions or really just you know,
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shooting the shit and having some fun without a specific
goal in mind. We realized that in both of those
cases the songs were quite obviously there, so we decided
to just go with our instincts and follow those moments lyrically.
I would say that Pope's Cocaine focuses on organized religion
and the various forms of control that they employ on
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their followers. But at the same time, it's important to
note that we're looking at the other side of it too,
what are the origins of these religions and why were
they conceived? You know, it's not all negative. It's really
also about each side of it, where you know, it
allows people to have faith in things that they don't
understand or that are very difficult to go through, and
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I think it's important to kind of look at both
sides of that picture. Thank you so much for listening,
and we hope you enjoy Pope's Cocaine and the rest
of what we do.
Speaker 9 (47:00):
Well.
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What it is is X getting back.
Speaker 9 (47:03):
Liter ji critically, what's a go for mines?
Speaker 10 (47:05):
Sy look on the rational friends to go to school
sound then it was a proud to worry.
Speaker 5 (47:11):
They got sound like the side right somebody? If I
stud like, if I sound like, I'm so tied to
womsp dig, I'm the mom stop tig hop.
Speaker 21 (47:19):
Stop died, wm sup tim stop dying.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
I'm the mom stop tiger.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
It's a coming stop the coming shops A good figure
got a fast the walls This rack to tell it?
Speaker 9 (47:38):
What is a light shot?
Speaker 29 (47:39):
The step jumping John drunk? What's nash good? Sub jup
(48:28):
sush John dumping selfie flies?
Speaker 1 (48:31):
The rice is loss of frid we sight is more
and joy. I like like a loss of comslfs and brosers.
Speaker 5 (48:37):
Locker JP cut off because I water.
Speaker 10 (48:56):
No Joe that yes job man, yes.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
Joke yess.
Speaker 2 (49:28):
Big Thanks to the artists who shared stories and music
with us on eleven. Shout out to Kevin at Collaboro
Music Media, Taylor and Anna at Surefire Spencer at Tell
all your friends and Phil at Mothland for connecting me
with their artists. All music on Independent Mind that is
used with permission of the artist, artists legal guardians. You
(49:48):
can check out this episode's full playlist at baldfreak dot
com slash podcast. And if you aren't in the artist
or work for one who wants to be featured on
Independent Minded, go ahead and stuff my inbox at Ron
at baldfreak dot com or slide into my d ms
on the socials at Baldfreak Music Independent Mind. It always was,
(50:10):
it still remains a bald Freak Music production and me,
I'm still Ron Scalzo.
Speaker 1 (50:17):
You're not national, You're a freak.
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