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September 11, 2024 59 mins
#145. John Van Deusen releases the oldest song he's ever written, Bird Call overcomes pandemic-provoked OCD, One Morning Left pays tribute to Knight Rider, Love In Reverse takes a digital detour, and Ron shares new faves from The Smile, Hammock + more.Sponsored by DistroKid. Get 30% off your membership at distrokid.com/vip/independentmindedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
You're the one that should be worried. You're a freak.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
You're reading for big trouble.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Headed for it.

Speaker 4 (00:12):
I'm already there. It's me Ron Scalzo with you. Insert
your name here for another episode of eleven on the
Independent Minded Podcast, Eleven new songs from independent artists from
around the globe that your boy Ronald is digging and
around the globe. That's not an exaggeration. We've got Denmark
rep this month, not to mention Finland, bless some legends

(00:34):
from the United Kingdom, and of course the good old
us of A. The summer sunset is fading. It's back
to school, back to the grind for most of you folks.
But here on the old podcast, the indie music grind
never stops. And I'm blessed to get paid to keep
digging for musical diamonds and to toss a little love
to some new music from old favorites and share them
all with you. For episode one five of Independent Minded.

(00:57):
As always, we let the artists do the talking where possible,
while I sit on the sidelines eating cheese. It's so
let's break open the box, crank up the dial to
full volume, and.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
Start munching.

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Five.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
Hello.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Whether you're a megastar or a relative unknown, inspiration is
rarely instant. Suresting wrote every breath you take after waking
up from a fever dream. But a lot of the
greatest songs ever made have come from old voice memos,
re earth from ancient journals, or reborn from some riff
you've been playing since you're a teenager. Washington, States. John
Van Duzen previews his sixth studio album with one of

(01:36):
those sort of tunes, a six minute alt rock ripper,
once abandoned and now finally ingloriously captured on record. Here's
John kicking off the pod mix with some words about
a new song that also happens to be the oldest
song he's ever released.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Comeback Record is a super old song. I wrote the
chorus when I was fourteen, so I don't know, maybe
two thousand and two. The verses I wrote a few
years after that, and so it's been around for a
long time, and it's very surreal to be releasing it
now as an almost thirty seven year old. Sonically, it
sounds like a lot of the music I was listening
to when I was really young, foo Fighters and pop

(02:13):
punk and sunny Day real Estate. We recorded it in
Texas at Ranchland Studios. It was produced by Andy Park
who's a friend of mine from Seattle. He's done the
more recent page of the Lion Records and Deep Sea Divers,
some really good music. I think my favorite part of
the song are the drums played by my friend Braden Krueger.
He's a longtime collaborator of about twenty years, and I

(02:35):
just think the drums are really powerful on this song.

Speaker 7 (02:38):
So I hope you like it. I bet I'm not
the one you want.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
I bet I'm not strong enough. I'm afraid of what.

Speaker 9 (03:01):
You think if you really knew me, If I let
you get close enough, close enough to see my heart,
close enough to customer strength, will you turn on me?

Speaker 7 (03:13):
Because I want to know you. I really want to understand.

Speaker 10 (03:18):
I want to keep you safe instead crush.

Speaker 11 (03:22):
You in my hand.

Speaker 12 (03:24):
You don't know just what I'm thinking when we talk.

Speaker 5 (03:31):
My stomach seeking you deliver.

Speaker 11 (03:34):
Guys, it's you. I see deal.

Speaker 12 (03:38):
Look fail too, it's you, look too.

Speaker 5 (04:07):
I know what everybody saying.

Speaker 12 (04:09):
I've got you men in my day. I shouldn't already
see the mind I have seen me, but I was
made to give face love to sis up face the peishes.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Made eyes up a big yeah.

Speaker 12 (04:25):
I want to know you. I really want to unders.
I want to keep you safe fast and crush.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
You in mine. And you don't know what I think
when we talk. My stomach sink you.

Speaker 12 (04:45):
Never you, guys, it's your nice set, your money through
to me, through to.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
You.

Speaker 12 (05:00):
No, don't know a how any things came. When the
weeds are the stomach seen king and never think guys,
it's you.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
I see you.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
This is my come back record.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
This is my come back record.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Let's want to see me and he wants to hear
me broken.

Speaker 11 (07:12):
This is my com down, this is my combat, this

(07:32):
is this is my.

Speaker 5 (07:41):
That you want to brek.

Speaker 12 (07:48):
This is my comback cracker. This is my comback crack.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
That's John Van Dusen with Comeback Wrecker off the album
Anthem Sprinter, out November first on Tooth and Nail. Bird
Call is the nom de plume of Guatemalan and Italian
pop artist Chiara Angelicola, who's quietly released eleven records and
a set to grace us with a new EP called
A Life Is Extraordinary. Here's Shiara to tell us about

(08:27):
her new self released single, Tiny Transistor, a song about
pandemic provoked OCD and a long road to recovery ate it,
and embedded by her artistic endeavors.

Speaker 13 (08:37):
Hi and thank you for having me. One of the
most stabilitating things you can ask an artist is are
you working on anything new? We already have so much
pressure to perform and fear of failure embedded in this
culture that I think what we need to gravitate towards
as a society that supports the arts is this concept

(08:59):
of art as a collective force that's only driven by
our compassion for each other. The pandemic was a gestational
period for me creatively. I needed to face a lot
of my own fears and blocks in order to arrive
at the creative point i'm at now. Tiny Transistor was
written as I was being clinically diagnosed with OCD during

(09:21):
the first wave of the pandemic in twenty twenty. I
spent several months not being able to leave my house
because I literally thought the virus was on my doorstep.
I was so grateful I was able to still write
and exercise this process of music because much of my

(09:42):
time in isolation I felt incapacitated. The song is inevitably
a story about my journey through that time, the incessant
internal chatter, and the process of quieting the worries of
the mind through music. The creative process of making records
has always allowed me an opportunity to heal and empower

(10:03):
myself after experiences like the one told in Tiny and
the music video for Tiny Transistor was also an invitation
to heal through movement, I took a giant leap into
the unknown working with choreography for the first time. I
think a deep physical transformation took hold in my journey
into motherhood these past two years. I gave birth in

(10:26):
twenty twenty two to a beautiful daughter, Leona. A spiritual
cleans of ancient wounds and new cells and limitless expansion
is now shared between my daughter and I.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
And it's this.

Speaker 13 (10:42):
Sense of expansion that ultimately fuels my creative energy as
a performer and a songwriter. As an artist, I feel
this untethered propensity to communicate stories through both musical and
physical forms. Now, somehow, motherhood has made me want a day.
I spent many late nights in an empty studio in

(11:03):
Silver Lake training with Jules Bakshi, a choreographer from New
York City. For this music video, it really was a
reflexive propulsion to incorporate movement into the creative expressions of
this new record. Ultimately, this work really displays the process
of confronting old ghosts, healing them, and forging a stronger

(11:24):
path and creative identity.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
Dark Gretlin Paine kill me A food is a vacuum.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
It's a good escape the feelings.

Speaker 11 (11:57):
Can you hear me?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Let's make a mistake.

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Let's cut the cake, must.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Make a mustake.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Say you won't for sake me. It takes what it takes.

Speaker 14 (12:36):
It takes what it takes, It takes what it sakes,
but it won't take me.

Speaker 7 (13:06):
You have tovisions and.

Speaker 15 (13:10):
Science fiction like transit feature.

Speaker 16 (13:15):
I'm saying, man feature stand transist going off f.

Speaker 7 (13:22):
Feel feeling.

Speaker 16 (13:26):
Standing transistor just going off to that thing, he say,
stand genus just going off to mas.

Speaker 14 (13:38):
Do you hear what I'm seeing?

Speaker 5 (13:40):
A start dress is throwing off the ring?

Speaker 9 (13:50):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seventy nineteen eleven.

Speaker 7 (13:54):
Eleven's the number for me, don't you see? Elevens a
number for me?

Speaker 17 (14:32):
No, not emas I love song, not the mole song,
your own pretending everything will be okay.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
I'll die to.

Speaker 15 (14:44):
Day you left me. I die again every day.

Speaker 7 (14:49):
Go on, go away, get out.

Speaker 5 (14:52):
Of here, leave me.

Speaker 18 (14:55):
I'm dying.

Speaker 19 (14:57):
You mean I'm dying.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
Leave me alone.

Speaker 19 (15:02):
I'm dying here.

Speaker 15 (15:22):
I do not as Falstar, not a fact, just false apart.
Go on, get lost, buck off, steak gone.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Look what you've done.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
I'm no good.

Speaker 15 (15:36):
Look a you've done. I'm no good, Louise.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
You've done.

Speaker 20 (15:41):
I'm dying.

Speaker 17 (15:43):
Here's no love love song, still won song and brown

(16:47):
French test very goofy Okay, I die this love me,
I die the.

Speaker 7 (16:57):
Reasons go on?

Speaker 21 (17:30):
What's your Name?

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Song?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Eleven?

Speaker 3 (17:34):
Hello everybody.

Speaker 22 (17:35):
It's guitar player Juso from the Finnish metalcore band One
Morning Left and the creator for the song, Michael the Night.
It's not a secret that the song actually draws its
inspiration from the eighties TV show night Rider, so it
was kind of a happy accident that the song was created.
I was just sprousing my synthesizer presets and sounds on

(17:57):
this night writer kind of a sound. When prisons came up.
I started to make a metalcore breakdown around it, and
the choruses and verses came up pretty painlessly after that.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
But the lyrics were the.

Speaker 22 (18:10):
Most fun part of creating the song. It was my
goal to make the dumbest lyrics ever, and I think
I achieved that goal pretty well. But anyway, you should
check our music video for the song, Michael Denidan. Here
here it comes the song enjoy.

Speaker 5 (19:07):
Day.

Speaker 12 (19:10):
Driving with my tack drum went plating from.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Jack is a tackle look at.

Speaker 7 (19:20):
Just making my sense words?

Speaker 5 (19:23):
What'sgether with my clay? We're not going to stop? What
days my god? Mister trop car us news Wow? Why God?

Speaker 7 (19:49):
Websites out.

Speaker 8 (19:53):
No answer?

Speaker 5 (19:56):
Why I got.

Speaker 14 (20:00):
Secret and sad.

Speaker 16 (20:09):
Like Michael Wols laugh drite out why I.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Can't? I said, you gather.

Speaker 14 (20:43):
My st.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
SI s.

Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yes, that's Finnish metalcore band One Morning Left with the incredible,
infectious Michael the Knight a tribute to the pre Baywatch
David Hasselhoff vehicle night an eighties era TV staple that
I and many other Gen xers grew up watching and
with all due respect to the Hof, the coolest things
about night Rider with a talking trans am voiced by

(22:10):
actor William Daniels.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
That person of the head is the one that tried
to violate me last night. He's over the Rise about
one hundred.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yards ahead and one of the dopest them songs of
its era, which is cleverly and subtlely integrated into that
metal synth hybrid song we just heard.

Speaker 20 (22:24):
You've probably begun to form a psychological attachment to me.

Speaker 2 (22:27):
That would be a logical human response.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
One Morning Left's new album Nion Inferno is out October
twenty fifth on a Rising Empire, and I highly recommend
you check out the video for this song, which highlights
the dumb brilliance of its broken English lyrics and a
dude in a black Speedo riding a pimped out bicycle
who I.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
Can only hope is the band's lead singer.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Before that, Christopher Owens with No Good from his forthcoming
album I Want to Run Barefoot Through Your Hair, out
October eighteenth on True Panther. Owens is well known as
one of the founding members of the influential San Francisco
indie Ryan Girls, and he's been doing the solo thing
for over a decade. And we kicked off the set
with the sultry sounds of Los Angeles artist bird Call

(23:09):
and Tiny Transistor out.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Now If you can see the numbers will go to eleven.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
It's no coincidence that a lot of artists featured here
on Independent Mind that are inspired by grief, existential dread,
and mental health concerns. And if anyone in this episode
has an excuse to exercise those demons, it's this dude.
Alan Sparhawk is probably most familiar to folks. Is one
half of the influential shoegaze duo Low. Alan lost his wife, bandmate,

(23:46):
and lifelong partner, Mimi Parker two years ago. Parker's departure
after about with cancer signaled the end of Low, a
band that I've grown to appreciate more and more as
the years tick by. Their final album Hey What Was
My Favorite? Twenty twenty one, and their trademark dynamic, melancholy
approach to music making on classics like Things We Lost

(24:06):
in the Fire and Ones and Sixes remain inspirational and moving.
Sparhawk could have closed up shop once Slow ended. Instead,
like most artists, he's muddling through the darkness of his grief,
looking to find some light through creation. Because when living
the life you knew becomes impossible, when happiness was once
the bar, when acceptance resignation and attaining some sort of

(24:27):
damage contentment. Step in songwriting no longer becomes a job.
It transforms into an essential Catharsis Alan Sparhawk's gone solo,
though not by choice, and not surprisingly, He's making new
noise that sounds a little different and feels a little
more necessary.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
You do.

Speaker 11 (25:16):
You want to read?

Speaker 5 (25:22):
Do you want to say?

Speaker 7 (25:23):
Scar?

Speaker 5 (25:27):
I don't want to make as l.

Speaker 7 (25:33):
G joke?

Speaker 14 (25:39):
Bunny actually.

Speaker 18 (25:45):
Bunny?

Speaker 5 (25:45):
And did.

Speaker 11 (25:48):
It was so bad?

Speaker 7 (25:50):
Wet ba say you mean you need a fast word?

Speaker 23 (26:43):
Give me a door?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
We escalator.

Speaker 22 (26:54):
Any that that stone?

Speaker 5 (27:00):
You bet?

Speaker 7 (27:00):
It is so bad? That's just first.

Speaker 19 (28:15):
I had planned to write a book with nothing to say.
According to my TV, all the.

Speaker 24 (28:30):
Good stories are taken, and all the choices I'm making.

Speaker 19 (28:39):
Leave me feeling a little less than sure, and.

Speaker 7 (28:45):
I'm just.

Speaker 19 (28:48):
Follow I had plans to take you home.

Speaker 7 (29:05):
The rent to.

Speaker 19 (29:10):
When all there is to Tuesday, Wat's the sin?

Speaker 25 (29:17):
He all the line and I'm stealing soon to make
there is no cut, and I'm.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Just it.

Speaker 7 (29:33):
Followed.

Speaker 5 (29:47):
One day you ride.

Speaker 24 (29:50):
For real life, You're no surprise it in the world
like this. I had planned to laugh it off, learn

(30:12):
love the dreams.

Speaker 25 (30:17):
I had planned to call you back, and I'm a
fool food distretch.

Speaker 19 (30:27):
And all this time I've been acting like I was
meant for something. I'm just too followed.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
That's Wayne Graham with I Had Plans off the new
album Bastion, out now on Hickman Holler Records. Don't be fooled.
Wayne Graham is a band, not a dude. Bastion in
their ninth album of new Appalachian style folk rock ve
there's an interesting sonic territories, including the woodwind wisps featured
on the song we just heard Before that Alan Sparhawk

(31:11):
with Get Still off his forthcoming album White Roses My God,
out September twenty seventh on sub Pop.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
I got five more coming out of the break.

Speaker 4 (31:21):
Including a digital detour from a former independent minded guest,
a simmering side project from two members of one of
my all time favorite bands, more grief and Joy from
an American music icon, and an ambiant coda from a
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The Independent Minded podcast provides a platform for bravery. For
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reach out to artists I've long admired, not just as
a fan, but as someone who wants to hear more
about their story and share it with the world. Sometimes
those invitations are declined. Other times the door opens wide.
Such was the case early last year when I took

(33:26):
a detour to Tampa, Florida while on a work related
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tales of major label meltdowns and passionate perseverance inside the
suburban home of Jersey born Pizano Michael Farentino. Michael fronts
alt rock band Love and Reverse, a project put through
the ringer when the band signed and was then unceremoniously

(33:47):
dropped by Warner Brothers around the turn of the century.
A short lifetime later, Michael's still doing the thing, and
his commitment to craft remains awe inspiring. Here he is
to tell us about the unexpected birth of Love and
Res Versus latest album.

Speaker 26 (34:01):
Hey Ron, thanks so much for the opportunity to speak
about the new Love and Reverse album, Amygdala. So basically,
we had just finished an album at the end of
last year called Keep Upright, and the album was supposed
to be released on vinyl, but the costs of manufacturing
and shipping have become so astronomical the label decided we're

(34:23):
going to hold off until early twenty twenty five to
release that.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
So in the meantime, Andres and I.

Speaker 26 (34:28):
Decided to start recording some tracks from songs that we
had stored since nineteen ninety eight from the Words Become
Worms era. Right after that album, I had started writing
a bunch of demos for the follow up album, but
then we left Warner Brothers and Love and Reverse went
on hiatus for twenty some years, and we decided to

(34:48):
revisit some of those songs, plus a bunch of new
ones I had just written that We're in that similar
vein a bit more on the dark edge and electronic,
harder side. Amygdala refers to the flight or fight response.
It's part of the brain, you know, a lot of
the songs are about that anxiety, fear, and addiction and

(35:11):
things of that sort. Keep upright, will come up and
not till next year. And that's a horse of a
different color.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
Though it enough.

Speaker 10 (35:27):
I've doonan on the forces and sad und all the
love we could please is nowpened. But what we're through

(35:48):
it all, we're going away.

Speaker 5 (35:58):
We go again. I wasn't going, said we're going in
the labout.

Speaker 14 (36:18):
Sell us.

Speaker 20 (36:21):
Tell Us said, remember.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
When we promised soon long go.

Speaker 27 (37:03):
Now we wanna freezing woman to have us so smaller,
shiest tam fire.

Speaker 19 (37:15):
High sense stuff.

Speaker 12 (37:23):
Now we don't root it all ways, we're going in
the base, says.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
We're going the we're going in the thing said we're
going in the thing.

Speaker 8 (37:46):
S to us, to us going the base, we'll go.

Speaker 7 (38:57):
In the week.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Us us.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Please gount to eleven.

Speaker 7 (39:48):
These things.

Speaker 28 (39:49):
It's like I met the brink up shopping anyone from
love to a cent.

Speaker 19 (39:59):
Any given a It's another way would spired to fend.

Speaker 29 (40:05):
And too garratt at commitment, but ended up depending on
the five ye and the bullets, Christeners and visitation day
in their holding silk.

Speaker 3 (40:26):
Trust.

Speaker 23 (40:27):
It's a gift attracted if the beneficiary don't take custody.
You try to take account of things told the system
way test speed okay with the broken bas peace bob piece,

(40:47):
you sit with two good two and before you told
the chickens up, might the dog go take your business else?

Speaker 3 (41:00):
The fuck just like this when the East.

Speaker 23 (41:07):
Cats been dealt fathering the request, but you're no longer
off the shelf. When I said I wanted nothing, that's
not really what I meant.

Speaker 7 (41:18):
My kids, it's truly sweet like.

Speaker 15 (41:20):
No one else.

Speaker 19 (41:23):
But I couldn't keep my fingers too love.

Speaker 28 (41:26):
So I want to do my party keeping pearls, but
to bust the door being.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
No hard sounds to do, I.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Really figured em with.

Speaker 23 (41:54):
The lack of secrets of advantage is so long, I've
heard the muffing air door.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
I guess I colick and nothing super here.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
I am not.

Speaker 15 (42:07):
Welcome in.

Speaker 23 (42:13):
Taking sleeping because you shut your ears shot.

Speaker 5 (42:23):
These memories of.

Speaker 19 (42:24):
Day that I am shutting you down, the.

Speaker 28 (42:31):
Like how you figure its displaying shadow play a.

Speaker 19 (42:42):
Picking up the beauty?

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Still so.

Speaker 23 (42:46):
So fuck you start the deal in the East. It
can't has been down finding the request.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
But you're no longer off the ship.

Speaker 28 (43:00):
When I said I wanted nothing, because I really want
a man's kids it's truly sweet like norm.

Speaker 15 (43:08):
And I couldn't keep my famous to myself.

Speaker 7 (43:15):
I couldn't keep my famous.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
To my saving.

Speaker 8 (43:21):
Eleven and eleven eleven.

Speaker 30 (43:46):
The last time you came around here, it was to
rescue me. You arrive just in time with your customary flea.

(44:09):
He rode through the ring all the way from Casteline.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
With the wind and the wind, the wind of the wind.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
In your.

Speaker 7 (44:29):
After that, nothing.

Speaker 21 (44:32):
Ever really hurt again, nothing ever really hurt, not even
o a verything, as we had said, you and me,

(44:55):
by the great he can.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
See in the rain and the rain and the raid
or ray of the ray, wad.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
Love with the wind, with the wind, with the wind
of wind.

Speaker 31 (45:37):
Now, who are these scots that's now defend?

Speaker 1 (45:48):
And what purpose do they serve?

Speaker 5 (45:51):
Now?

Speaker 1 (45:52):
At the end of time? Then we mean on our bends,
with the rings on.

Speaker 31 (46:04):
Our hands and my hands, searching for your hand, searching
for mind, searching for your hands, searching for.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
Ways, love.

Speaker 18 (46:38):
And way, oh love, ways is.

Speaker 7 (46:54):
I will fall with.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
The iconic nick Cave alongside the Bad Seeds with final
rescue attempt off the critically acclaimed new album.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Wild God, out now on Pious.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
We've touched on grief and hardship. In this episode, a
Nick's joyful twist on the subjects are on full display
on Wild God, an album that dances between convention and experimentation,
takes left turns and detours that heighten the rich imagery
and emotion in Cave's soul stirring narratives, and draws favorable
comparisons to other troubled troubadours from nix Heyday, such as

(47:45):
Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen. Before that, Denmark's Elias Ronenfeldt
with No One Else off his forthcoming debut album, out
October twenty fifth on Eshow. Alias is a musician and
poet better known in his home country as the lead
singer of the band ice Age and We kicked off
the set with the End of Us from the new

(48:05):
love and Reverse album Amgdala, out now on Daddad Drumming Records.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
If you can see you know the numbers will go
to eleven.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
One of the musicians featured on the new Nick Cave
album is bassist Colin Greenwood of Radiohead, a band that's
been in stasis these past few years, mostly due to
Colin's brother Johnny and some guy named Tom York Moonlighting
and the surprising side project, The Smile. Twenty twenty two's
a Light for Attracting Attention was my favorite album of
that year, and this year's follow up, Wall of Eyes

(48:44):
was nearly as impressive. But Tom Johnny and drummer Tom
Skinner ain't done, and they've apparently got more to say
in twenty twenty four with a second new release entitled Cutouts.
If you're as big a fan of Radiohead as I am,
I don't need to sell you on this project, So
let's just play the song. Here's the breathtaking Foreign Spies.

Speaker 7 (49:28):
And Beautiful while.

Speaker 32 (49:37):
We mounted and Grono, Name d Somuel, Lancing, fam.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
Falling Over, say.

Speaker 7 (50:18):
Time Faun and spine fall Spin.

Speaker 5 (50:50):
It's a beautiful world. We go.

Speaker 7 (51:06):
Bobos, counter.

Speaker 19 (51:10):
Wave and the crowd.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
Cach Nie.

Speaker 7 (51:33):
Every time of bad siting a spell.

Speaker 5 (52:05):
Five S.

Speaker 7 (52:20):
Foo SPA.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Five S.

Speaker 7 (52:46):
Four SPA.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
What else can you say about the Smile besides more please?
Most bands from Radioheads era sputter out as time marches on,
But if the Smile is any indication there's a lot
more gas left in the tank. And whether they're smiling,
film scoring or radio heading, I'm always looking forward to
what these cats do next. Cutouts is out October fourth
on XL Recordings. Let's close things out with a soothing

(54:06):
lullaby from one of my favorite ambiant bands, Nashville duo
Mark Byrd and Andrew Thompson, better known as Hammock, a
project that's literally lulled me to sleep in the best
way possible since their two thousand and five debut Canotic.
The forthcoming album from the Void features delicious table scraps
from last year's Love in the Void and make up
part of a new eight song release that's out October

(54:28):
twenty fifth. Here's some soothing oral relief from Hammock and
a song called Drugs and Religion. Good Night, Kids, Sleep Tight.

(57:16):
Big thanks to the artists who shared audio and music
with us on eleven. Shout out to Amy and Shane at,
Adam Splitter, and Anna at Tell all your friends.

Speaker 3 (57:24):
For connecting me with their artists.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
All music on Independent Mind that is used with permission
of the artist, artist management and r artist promotional team.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
You can check out this episode's.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Playlist with listen links to everyone we featured at Baldfreak
dot com, slash podcast, and if you're an indie artist,
or you represent one who wants to be featured on
Independent Minded.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
Send music links alongside your love note to Ron at
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Speaker 4 (57:49):
Com, Follow me online at Baldfreakmusic, and subscribe and leave
a kind review for the podcast on Spotify and Apple Podcasts.
Independent Mind that always was, it still remains a bald
Freak Music production.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Me.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I'm still Ron Scalzo. You're a nice you know you're
a freak.
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