July 11, 2024 • 58 mins
#142. Kyle Andrews' song tells him how to write it, ASHRR speak French to unlock a space disco hook, One Hundred Thousand reevaluate relationships, and Ron shares new faves from Highly Suspect, La Luz + more.Sponsored by DistroKid. Get 30% off your membership at distrokid.com/vip/independentmindedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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You're the one that should be worried. You're a freak. You're reading for
Big Trouble, Big Trouble, BigTrouble, Big Trouble. Boy. It's
me Ronald, just sitting back shootingthe breeze. It's like the old radio
days, remember radio. But I'mnot here to talk about the past.
(00:25):
I'm here to check in and toturn you on to the latest tunes from
artists I'm digging during the dog daysof summer twenty twenty four. It's eleven,
a new companion to the long forminterview episodes I've been releasing since twenty
twelve. Twenty twelve. Eleven ischock full of music from eleven different independent
(00:46):
artists with new music recently released toor on the horizon, and we only
stop things down mostly to hear whatthe artists have to say about the material
and to tell you what you're listeningto eleven, because why just promote one
independent artist when you can promote eleven? Eleven Five Hello, kicking off the
(01:11):
pod mix for July, a trioof I themed songs. Not the Letter,
those orbs swimming around your nose andthe first This is from Kyle Andrews
Kyle self released album, his sixthis called The Whims of a Manic Moon.
It features a jangly folk song calledJohn Hughes Coat. And since I
(01:33):
recorded a song called John Hughes abouttwenty years ago in my electro rock band
Cubeball, I immediately felt some kinship. What the song you're about to hear
is called unFocus your Eyes. Andhere's Kyle to tell us how writing this
tune, or in this case,sort of not trying to write it lay
the foundation for a songwriting philosophy overthe course of the full record. Hey,
(01:53):
I'm Kyle Andrews. I'm at mystudio in Spooner, Wisconsin, and
I'm gonna say a little bit aboutmy song unFocus your Eyes. This might
sound weird, but the song toldme how to write the song and then
how to write the rest of thealbum. If I sat down with any
intention or direction, nothing would come. If I quieted my thoughts, I
would suddenly just know the next words. Similar to those magic eye images where
(02:15):
you unFocus your eyes and an imageemerges out of the abstract. You make
it look easy. Sometimes we discreditour accomplishments if it didn't feel like we
had to strain or suffer hard enoughfor them. Life is hard enough.
The challenge in creating is quieting myown intentions and desires long enough to listen
and hear what is truly important tome? What makes you loaded go?
(02:40):
What gets your blass squeeze me?Like to know? You make it up?
Focus your eyes, follow your up, focus shoes when you're feeling all
(03:23):
along. Don't wonder where we goand put your get up to the phone.
You know where I'm going, andyou make it up. Focus your
(03:45):
eyes and fine focus your eyes.Don't think to use we never did nothing
(04:21):
again? You know it? Stillwant to be your friends if you can
most you don't don't know your band? You know it still wanna be your
friends. And if the world's worldstarter, and you know I still wanna be
any band. If we never didn'tnothing again? If we never you make
(04:50):
it a game. Gets your eyesfollow go fo ride and focus your focus
(05:13):
your ride, focus your ride.The eleven and eleven eleven cast s.
(09:24):
What we do is if we needthat extra push over the cliff, you
know we do, put it offto a l labin exactly. Tell your
(09:56):
mom that's hey, come home.She jazz man fucking in me and a
zone you hide debo the boon ourpone and you can't to tell your sister
dans no longer ever alone. We'regone call me gone here Wow wow,
(10:26):
Now listen you guess sad well,I guess Santos girl with fucking crazy and
ain't another we can't do. Let'ssee every color. We see fifty shades
(10:46):
of good and I know you wannasave me, but die would rare the
shoe the June. We're gone hideride again night wow? Oh oh,
(11:09):
talk too much suthing that changed.I have lost my whole mind. I
(11:43):
made a stranger myself. I beenso long time died chance to so slipping
cheat the real down by the river. The you mails say, I'm talking
(12:16):
now. He told me to sayup me and that's when I lost my
son. Boll now you soon Nonot did he a mass anymore? I
(12:39):
just miss her. I'm tam theBlue Eyed Devil by Highly Suspect. That's
(13:31):
part of a try eye opening hereon Independent Minded. That's coming off the
new album as above so below,out July nineteenth on Roadrunner Records. Highly
Suspect is pretty huge. They formedin two thousand and nine as a Cape
cod cover band, and fifteen yearsand a few Grammy nams later, they're
set to release their sixth studio albumwith a mostly sold out tour of the
(13:54):
US on tap this summer. Beforethat, La Loo was with Close Your
Eyes from the album News of theUniverse out now on Subpop, and kicking
it all off Wisconsin's Kyle Andrews withUnfocused Your Eyes. Big thanks to Kyle
for giving us some insight into themaking of that song and the album He
(14:15):
put it on the whims of aManic Moon. If you can see,
you know the numbers will go toeleven. A big reason why I started
this podcast and why I continue toplug away at it is because I'm a
(14:37):
musician myself, and so I lovecovorting with and culling wisdom from all my
guests. Between the aforementioned Cube BallProject, solo material under my own name,
and other fleeting bands you've probably neverheard of, I put out over
ten albums myself, and I've beenmost prolific lately in my band with former
Dillinger Escape Plan drummer Chris Penny anda guy who used to be my boss
(14:58):
in the radio world, guitarist BrettaVennie. Once upon a time we signed
with Metal Blade Records. Now we'vegot a new EP called Octavius that highlights
our synthwave sensibilities. Here's Brett describinghow we channeled the great Peter Gabriel to
create the first track on the newEP, Deeper into Me. The initial
(15:20):
inspiration for that came from Intruder byPeter Gabriel. Ronnie and Chris and I
had decided that the next project wouldbe a little bit more electronic, you
know, really feature Ronnie's vocals.We touched on it on Oblivion a little
bit, but those electronic songs werevery like aggressive, and we wanted to
have a little more space in thecomposition. So when I started writing that
(15:43):
riff, the beginning riff, whichis on a cello, that was kind
of the inspiration was the Peter Gabrielsong Intruders, And it didn't come out
(16:03):
like that, And that's the greatthing about inspiration, doesn't always come out
the way you think it's gonna comeout. It actually came out a little
bit more depeche mode, which islike right in Ronnie's wheelhouse, and Ronnie
does the best chorus if I thinkhe's ever written shot enough BALLI stock committing
(16:33):
non controlleryentree, mind swelling up inmy chest. Session mole, let me
break it to you. Gently insistshot. I wanna know today, start
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kill me. I want to knowhis starge. Don't please job, kill
this job. I'll let you knowif we hit rock bottom. I need
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you to take yourself take it tome. I don't mind. I'm want
to be doing time. We needbehind to the five charge kill me.
I wanna knowday God kill me.I want to know this starge, know
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this job? Jo? What isa din? Would you never fall cattle
nothing? It's finally diedone that's successor. It's not o't care though. It
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makes the story of me to makeyourself real better. Oh that's all right,
That wrong and not right. I'lllet you know when we hit rock
bottle and you to take yourself deeperinto me. I don't mind, I'm
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gonna feed clok me behind. Whatif she died tonight? You never fallgetther
they gets finn eide to one thatsuccessor, it's I don't cavery makes the
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story up to make you so feelbetter. Oh that's all I have better
and not right, rout. Theygets time better, they get its f
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time wrong. They gets fun time. It's all right better rong get no
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get bags la times til it sidrognmains fly side that's all right, not
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off cat no, no pakes fanit time the gates panisid baggs pani time.
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Oh that's all right. I'm betteroff getting n the ride. What's
your name? Song? Eleven onthe way to the photo, all the
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way here of Bier, look aroundme. No you can't come the around
you and ever really there only everwill other? Will you ever? Let
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the go over big go a myalpha, my ever, let big go,
my ever, let big go.I'll seecre come between ours. This
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will be the first two goals,be the first hang out. Don't call
again. There are things we shouldhave and show lyde plea aboard play a
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they know, play at they go, anthode play anthod pa a a go
at stocks and ga at that asat that acts as stack everything he's got
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eleven Call me in the night wentup? You Risley's called me in the
nod went up? Feel deathy likewhite. It's the same thing, the
(26:21):
same gig bye again. When wetry again, I go walk king when
my heart is hog king, tellingme to put it down the phone and
go outside to clear my mind andpast the time, because all I have
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to think about, all I haveto think about is you. My sweets
call me in the night went out. He's called men feel dead when salt
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king, it's the same thing,Sandy's nice things. When there's nice things
left. Do you say I wantto talk? Do you find another reason
to? Even with no reason?I really really want to. I don't
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want to die alone in an affirmI'd rather die home. You idea designed
because all I haven't think about,all I ever think about is you,
my sweetest slove God. Its gobegin be Adam begin begin be boy and
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being still more time time So okay, when still take my time tamingning to
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time sound I'm overcame straight out ofNova Scotia. That's DeVaro with a single
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Oh Look, we did a paperBag double shot with Alana York and the
song let Me Go of her newalbum Destroyer. Kicking off the set some
shameless promotion for me My band returnedto Earth with some savory synthpop and deeper
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In to Me off the new EPOctavius out now on Bald Freak Music.
Ooh, I feel dirty. NowI'm gonna shower off all this filth.
But I've got five more for youcoming out of the break. Buckley your
seat belt because things are gonna getheavy on the back end with new ones
from Independent Mind and alumni, Nothingmore and one hundred thousand, But we'll
come back with some Los Angeles spacedisco right after this quick break. Don't
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a try. Five six seven Hello. Electronic music is a genre fave of
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mind, mainly because it can bedone so many different ways. One particular
recipe I've always enjoyed is the comboof the DFA Records rhythm made most famous
by James Murphy and LCD sound Systemwith bright guitars and synths. La indie
dance trio Asher has some of thatflavor, and their band camp bio quotes
(32:14):
them as Roxy Music jamming with ESGin Central Park on a sunny Sunday.
I endorsed these comps wholeheartedly. Here'sAsher member producer Ethan Allen with a few
words on the band's new lazy hazy, mid tempo lounger Do song. Do
Song was an interesting one. Wehad some chords we knew we liked and
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couldn't quite connect the thoughts. Wetried doing words and consulting all our lyrics
in English, but nothing seemed tosing right. So then we decided we
would try it in French, andthat just seemed to sing itself. And
then once that happened, we layereda bunch of vocals and somehow the song
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online itself. But we had agood time doing it. I feel your
soul something you can have now.We feel the life fading good, childe
rise, I can go, Ican fly f I'll the home So Child
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song Song, Song, Song,Song, so so so So So,
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Gay Song, silent so so one, two, three, four, five,
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six s eight. Levin's the numberfor me, don't you see?
Even's the number for me, downon the crowd, flowers for you,
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stone the stone tell me what todo, how to love you, how
to love you? We sit together, Panje long moods. She thinks you
are same thing I do. Owlove you. I love you. If
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I could change more slowly from lightthan down the lowly, I know much
better how to love you. IfI could change more slowly from light then
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down the lowly, I know muchbetter how to love you. No much
better out the love you. Whydo you ask? You can't answer back?
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It's all for me everything I do. How to love you, how
to love you? If I couldchange more slowly from light then down lowly,
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I know much better how to loveyou. If I could change more
slowly from light then down lowly,I know much better how to love you.
No much better how to love you. This is the last star of
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my life. I could forgive youand say that I knew how love you,
how love you, how love you, how love you? How to
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love you? By Queen's Based inMinnesota born songwriter Paul Spring. Paul first
caught my attention with the twenty twentytwo self released album Thunderhead. That album
featured a different version of How toLove You, and Paul's latest river Flows
Two Ways, features a stripped downversion of the song you Just Heard.
Speaking of rivers, this past spring, Paul canue down the Hudson River and
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docked at seven concert venues along thewater, playing songs from the new album.
Before that, we heard du songby Los Angeles indie dance trio Asher
spelled ashr R. The song's chorus, loosely translated from French, means two
sounds beat together, and the guysin Asher have been together since twenty eighteen.
These dudes put another single out recentlycalled a Different Kind of Life,
(41:45):
which I really dig as well.Asher's new album, Sunshine Low features both
and it's out September twentieth on twentytwenty. Vision Recordings, ll Afournia based
Ipocac Recordings has long been one ofmy favorite indie imprints. The label,
(42:05):
co founded by one of my idols, Mike Patton, is home to Melvin's
The Jesus Lizard and Patten's Myriad BizarroProjects, among many others, and the
band You're About to Hear Too,featuring members of Cops, Shoot, Cop
Daughters and Unsane Human Impact fits theipacac mold Perfectly. They first got my
attention with their EPO one in twentytwenty one. This off the heels of
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their debut album, which was releasedat the outset of the Pandemic Lockdown,
and instead of folding quickly, HumanImpact kept their eyes on the prize,
putting out helmet sounding noise rock singlesand EPs consistently over the last few years.
They've since expanded their lineup and they'reset to release their second album on
October fourth on IPACAC. Here's theaptly titled Destroyed to Rebuild, song number
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eight of eleven. On the IndependentMinded podcasts, to Desroyd talks of hold
on this, scarracing, still strong, no joys, so much talk so
(43:19):
passing to realize your trouble, protestsay just be sorry, to revel?
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Well God, why do you do? Stop some some s drinks and drinks,
ranks, sings, scien as,time to read. You're trying to
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read things? Talk to this verysins we nojo sast so talk about starting
(45:51):
to read. So just please gotto eleven scot Fi, fight away,
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make a face, woolen, drekcrow and don't wash in my filsters.
It would right, shosh your mouthsmelling frankluds, do stid, dirty work,
(47:21):
the rest raved thing, the worse. It's it's my time. It's
my time, my clothes, It'smy time. It's a sail break up,
(47:52):
gosh battle, separate my brecking godbreak, I get the run of
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the diapers. You'll kiss some food, drink second dot. There's your voice
upon telling together just the food astime before turning, walk you bad,
break the dead. It's it's mytime. It's my time, is honest,
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my closure, It's my time.Break from stop slight. Sign my
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side to carry out the swag signside, don't the swag sign my side
to carry out side side so funside, try the best your mag don't
go my dog you dump that gob my dog died, My god,
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you get the best diet My deestto die. Miss full of people who
can't break a proof That's nothing Morefeaturing the rapper Sinister with a Z and
(50:15):
the song Stuck off the new albumCarnal on Better Noise Music Nothing More.
As Johnny Hawkins was a guest notonly on Independent Minded about two years ago,
but also on that other podcast,I host The Joy of Bob Ross
talking about his love of Bob andwhy he paints his body before every show.
Johnny's a super cool, approachable dudewho recently relocated from Texas to Tennessee
(50:38):
and promised me we'd go to Whata Burger one day. I'm an in
and out man myself nothing more asone of those bands that never stops touring,
so I'm not gonna hold my breathfor that Burger. But Johnny,
when you're back in music City,let's do this. We'll do it for
Johnny before that Human Impact with Destroyedto rebuild off the forthcoming album Gone Dark
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that's out on October fourth on IPACACRecordings. If you can see yeah,
the numbers will go to eleven.And speaking of former podcast guests, all
the way back at the beginning oftwenty seventeen, I featured New Jersey hard
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rockers one hundred thousand on the podcast, five piece band that combines elements of
new metal and prog rock to makesome really interesting, cerebral, tool sounding
sonics. I was especially impressed withthe band's last full length, Zodiac,
which came out in twenty twenty oneand showcased Richard Mottos's impressive vocals and some
awesome production work. Here's one hundredthousand bass player Andrew Magnatta taking us to
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eleven with some words on the wordsbehind one of the band's most recent singles,
Hey Ron. This is from ourLiminal EP, a group of five
songs that was mostly written in sortof pandemic period. I guess we could
say for the lyrics, Greg andRich and I were kind of exploring the
confusion and trauma that we had alljust come out of as a society,
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reevaluating your relationship to people and materialthings. Rich in this song, in
the second verse wrote one of myfavorite lyrics that we have. All we
need is to decide, Hey,to live and wait to die. We're
all misguided sometimes. He almost tookit out of the song, and I
begged him not to. I rememberbeing so relieved that they left that line
(52:36):
in the song. Thanks so muchfor supporting the band. You've been so
great to us for a lot ofyears now, and we hope you like
it all the nothing try it SASo it's side st t to me the
(53:38):
sun from killed me chill so speak, Oh Yes to decide to basle the
(54:40):
way spron skies study everything to achest. So okay true, so true,
(56:00):
so shut s s s so big. Thanks to the artists who shared
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audio and music with us on eleven. Special thanks to Emma and Dan at
Terror Bird for connecting me with theirbands. All the music on Independent Minded
is used with permission of the artist, artist management, and or artist promotional
team, and you can check outthis episode's full playlist with listen links to
everyone we featured at Baldfreak dot comslash podcast. If you're an independent artist
(57:36):
or you represent one who wants tobe featured on Independent Minded, you can
send a ron An email Ron atbaldfreak dot com, follow me on the
socials at Baldfreakmusic, and you cansubscribe and leave a kind review for the
podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Independent Mind it always was and still remains
a Baldfreak Music production and me knowme fah, I'm still Ron Scalzo.
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You're a national, You're a freak. You're a freak. Could a freak,
could a freak? Could a freakgood? A freak good a freak
good a freak a freak are
You're the one that should be worried. You're a freak. You're reading for
Big Trouble, Big Trouble, BigTrouble, Big Trouble. Boy. It's
me Ronald, just sitting back shootingthe breeze. It's like the old radio
days, remember radio. But I'mnot here to talk about the past.
(00:25):
I'm here to check in and toturn you on to the latest tunes from
artists I'm digging during the dog daysof summer twenty twenty four. It's eleven,
a new companion to the long forminterview episodes I've been releasing since twenty
twelve. Twenty twelve. Eleven ischock full of music from eleven different independent
(00:46):
artists with new music recently released toor on the horizon, and we only
stop things down mostly to hear whatthe artists have to say about the material
and to tell you what you're listeningto eleven, because why just promote one
independent artist when you can promote eleven? Eleven Five Hello, kicking off the
(01:11):
pod mix for July, a trioof I themed songs. Not the Letter,
those orbs swimming around your nose andthe first This is from Kyle Andrews
Kyle self released album, his sixthis called The Whims of a Manic Moon.
It features a jangly folk song calledJohn Hughes Coat. And since I
(01:33):
recorded a song called John Hughes abouttwenty years ago in my electro rock band
Cubeball, I immediately felt some kinship. What the song you're about to hear
is called unFocus your Eyes. Andhere's Kyle to tell us how writing this
tune, or in this case,sort of not trying to write it lay
the foundation for a songwriting philosophy overthe course of the full record. Hey,
(01:53):
I'm Kyle Andrews. I'm at mystudio in Spooner, Wisconsin, and
I'm gonna say a little bit aboutmy song unFocus your Eyes. This might
sound weird, but the song toldme how to write the song and then
how to write the rest of thealbum. If I sat down with any
intention or direction, nothing would come. If I quieted my thoughts, I
would suddenly just know the next words. Similar to those magic eye images where
(02:15):
you unFocus your eyes and an imageemerges out of the abstract. You make
it look easy. Sometimes we discreditour accomplishments if it didn't feel like we
had to strain or suffer hard enoughfor them. Life is hard enough.
The challenge in creating is quieting myown intentions and desires long enough to listen
and hear what is truly important tome? What makes you loaded go?
(02:40):
What gets your blass squeeze me?Like to know? You make it up?
Focus your eyes, follow your up, focus shoes when you're feeling all
(03:23):
along. Don't wonder where we goand put your get up to the phone.
You know where I'm going, andyou make it up. Focus your
(03:45):
eyes and fine focus your eyes.Don't think to use we never did nothing
(04:21):
again? You know it? Stillwant to be your friends if you can
most you don't don't know your band? You know it still wanna be your
friends. And if the world's worldstarter, and you know I still wanna be
any band. If we never didn'tnothing again? If we never you make
(04:50):
it a game. Gets your eyesfollow go fo ride and focus your focus
(05:13):
your ride, focus your ride.The eleven and eleven eleven cast s.
(09:24):
What we do is if we needthat extra push over the cliff, you
know we do, put it offto a l labin exactly. Tell your
(09:56):
mom that's hey, come home.She jazz man fucking in me and a
zone you hide debo the boon ourpone and you can't to tell your sister
dans no longer ever alone. We'regone call me gone here Wow wow,
(10:26):
Now listen you guess sad well,I guess Santos girl with fucking crazy and
ain't another we can't do. Let'ssee every color. We see fifty shades
(10:46):
of good and I know you wannasave me, but die would rare the
shoe the June. We're gone hideride again night wow? Oh oh,
(11:09):
talk too much suthing that changed.I have lost my whole mind. I
(11:43):
made a stranger myself. I beenso long time died chance to so slipping
cheat the real down by the river. The you mails say, I'm talking
(12:16):
now. He told me to sayup me and that's when I lost my
son. Boll now you soon Nonot did he a mass anymore? I
(12:39):
just miss her. I'm tam theBlue Eyed Devil by Highly Suspect. That's
(13:31):
part of a try eye opening hereon Independent Minded. That's coming off the
new album as above so below,out July nineteenth on Roadrunner Records. Highly
Suspect is pretty huge. They formedin two thousand and nine as a Cape
cod cover band, and fifteen yearsand a few Grammy nams later, they're
set to release their sixth studio albumwith a mostly sold out tour of the
(13:54):
US on tap this summer. Beforethat, La Loo was with Close Your
Eyes from the album News of theUniverse out now on Subpop, and kicking
it all off Wisconsin's Kyle Andrews withUnfocused Your Eyes. Big thanks to Kyle
for giving us some insight into themaking of that song and the album He
(14:15):
put it on the whims of aManic Moon. If you can see,
you know the numbers will go toeleven. A big reason why I started
this podcast and why I continue toplug away at it is because I'm a
(14:37):
musician myself, and so I lovecovorting with and culling wisdom from all my
guests. Between the aforementioned Cube BallProject, solo material under my own name,
and other fleeting bands you've probably neverheard of, I put out over
ten albums myself, and I've beenmost prolific lately in my band with former
Dillinger Escape Plan drummer Chris Penny anda guy who used to be my boss
(14:58):
in the radio world, guitarist BrettaVennie. Once upon a time we signed
with Metal Blade Records. Now we'vegot a new EP called Octavius that highlights
our synthwave sensibilities. Here's Brett describinghow we channeled the great Peter Gabriel to
create the first track on the newEP, Deeper into Me. The initial
(15:20):
inspiration for that came from Intruder byPeter Gabriel. Ronnie and Chris and I
had decided that the next project wouldbe a little bit more electronic, you
know, really feature Ronnie's vocals.We touched on it on Oblivion a little
bit, but those electronic songs werevery like aggressive, and we wanted to
have a little more space in thecomposition. So when I started writing that
(15:43):
riff, the beginning riff, whichis on a cello, that was kind
of the inspiration was the Peter Gabrielsong Intruders, And it didn't come out
(16:03):
like that, And that's the greatthing about inspiration, doesn't always come out
the way you think it's gonna comeout. It actually came out a little
bit more depeche mode, which islike right in Ronnie's wheelhouse, and Ronnie
does the best chorus if I thinkhe's ever written shot enough BALLI stock committing
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non controlleryentree, mind swelling up inmy chest. Session mole, let me
break it to you. Gently insistshot. I wanna know today, start
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kill me. I want to knowhis starge. Don't please job, kill
this job. I'll let you knowif we hit rock bottom. I need
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you to take yourself take it tome. I don't mind. I'm want
to be doing time. We needbehind to the five charge kill me.
I wanna knowday God kill me.I want to know this starge, know
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this job? Jo? What isa din? Would you never fall cattle
nothing? It's finally diedone that's successor. It's not o't care though. It
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makes the story of me to makeyourself real better. Oh that's all right,
That wrong and not right. I'lllet you know when we hit rock
bottle and you to take yourself deeperinto me. I don't mind, I'm
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gonna feed clok me behind. Whatif she died tonight? You never fallgetther
they gets finn eide to one thatsuccessor, it's I don't cavery makes the
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story up to make you so feelbetter. Oh that's all I have better
and not right, rout. Theygets time better, they get its f
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time wrong. They gets fun time. It's all right better rong get no
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get bags la times til it sidrognmains fly side that's all right, not
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off cat no, no pakes fanit time the gates panisid baggs pani time.
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Oh that's all right. I'm betteroff getting n the ride. What's
your name? Song? Eleven onthe way to the photo, all the
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way here of Bier, look aroundme. No you can't come the around
you and ever really there only everwill other? Will you ever? Let
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the go over big go a myalpha, my ever, let big go,
my ever, let big go.I'll seecre come between ours. This
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will be the first two goals,be the first hang out. Don't call
again. There are things we shouldhave and show lyde plea aboard play a
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they know, play at they go, anthode play anthod pa a a go
at stocks and ga at that asat that acts as stack everything he's got
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eleven Call me in the night wentup? You Risley's called me in the
nod went up? Feel deathy likewhite. It's the same thing, the
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same gig bye again. When wetry again, I go walk king when
my heart is hog king, tellingme to put it down the phone and
go outside to clear my mind andpast the time, because all I have
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to think about, all I haveto think about is you. My sweets
call me in the night went out. He's called men feel dead when salt
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king, it's the same thing,Sandy's nice things. When there's nice things
left. Do you say I wantto talk? Do you find another reason
to? Even with no reason?I really really want to. I don't
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want to die alone in an affirmI'd rather die home. You idea designed
because all I haven't think about,all I ever think about is you,
my sweetest slove God. Its gobegin be Adam begin begin be boy and
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being still more time time So okay, when still take my time tamingning to
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time sound I'm overcame straight out ofNova Scotia. That's DeVaro with a single
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likewise from the LP Heart Shaped Rockout October fourth on paper Bag Records.
Oh Look, we did a paperBag double shot with Alana York and the
song let Me Go of her newalbum Destroyer. Kicking off the set some
shameless promotion for me My band returnedto Earth with some savory synthpop and deeper
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In to Me off the new EPOctavius out now on Bald Freak Music.
Ooh, I feel dirty. NowI'm gonna shower off all this filth.
But I've got five more for youcoming out of the break. Buckley your
seat belt because things are gonna getheavy on the back end with new ones
from Independent Mind and alumni, Nothingmore and one hundred thousand, But we'll
come back with some Los Angeles spacedisco right after this quick break. Don't
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hit that skip button. Eleven ismade possible by distro Kid with a special
offer for our independent music making friendsand enemies. Whoever, if you got
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electronic doo hickeys without a label doingall the dirty work for you, you're
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a try. Five six seven Hello. Electronic music is a genre fave of
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mind, mainly because it can bedone so many different ways. One particular
recipe I've always enjoyed is the comboof the DFA Records rhythm made most famous
by James Murphy and LCD sound Systemwith bright guitars and synths. La indie
dance trio Asher has some of thatflavor, and their band camp bio quotes
(32:14):
them as Roxy Music jamming with ESGin Central Park on a sunny Sunday.
I endorsed these comps wholeheartedly. Here'sAsher member producer Ethan Allen with a few
words on the band's new lazy hazy, mid tempo lounger Do song. Do
Song was an interesting one. Wehad some chords we knew we liked and
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couldn't quite connect the thoughts. Wetried doing words and consulting all our lyrics
in English, but nothing seemed tosing right. So then we decided we
would try it in French, andthat just seemed to sing itself. And
then once that happened, we layereda bunch of vocals and somehow the song
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online itself. But we had agood time doing it. I feel your
soul something you can have now.We feel the life fading good, childe
rise, I can go, Ican fly f I'll the home So Child
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song Song, Song, Song,Song, so so so So So,
(35:52):
Gay Song, silent so so one, two, three, four, five,
(36:59):
six s eight. Levin's the numberfor me, don't you see?
Even's the number for me, downon the crowd, flowers for you,
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stone the stone tell me what todo, how to love you, how
to love you? We sit together, Panje long moods. She thinks you
are same thing I do. Owlove you. I love you. If
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I could change more slowly from lightthan down the lowly, I know much
better how to love you. IfI could change more slowly from light then
(38:23):
down the lowly, I know muchbetter how to love you. No much
better out the love you. Whydo you ask? You can't answer back?
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It's all for me everything I do. How to love you, how
to love you? If I couldchange more slowly from light then down lowly,
(39:27):
I know much better how to loveyou. If I could change more
slowly from light then down lowly,I know much better how to love you.
No much better how to love you. This is the last star of
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my life. I could forgive youand say that I knew how love you,
how love you, how love you, how love you? How to
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love you? By Queen's Based inMinnesota born songwriter Paul Spring. Paul first
caught my attention with the twenty twentytwo self released album Thunderhead. That album
featured a different version of How toLove You, and Paul's latest river Flows
Two Ways, features a stripped downversion of the song you Just Heard.
Speaking of rivers, this past spring, Paul canue down the Hudson River and
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docked at seven concert venues along thewater, playing songs from the new album.
Before that, we heard du songby Los Angeles indie dance trio Asher
spelled ashr R. The song's chorus, loosely translated from French, means two
sounds beat together, and the guysin Asher have been together since twenty eighteen.
These dudes put another single out recentlycalled a Different Kind of Life,
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which I really dig as well.Asher's new album, Sunshine Low features both
and it's out September twentieth on twentytwenty. Vision Recordings, ll Afournia based
Ipocac Recordings has long been one ofmy favorite indie imprints. The label,
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co founded by one of my idols, Mike Patton, is home to Melvin's
The Jesus Lizard and Patten's Myriad BizarroProjects, among many others, and the
band You're About to Hear Too,featuring members of Cops, Shoot, Cop
Daughters and Unsane Human Impact fits theipacac mold Perfectly. They first got my
attention with their EPO one in twentytwenty one. This off the heels of
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their debut album, which was releasedat the outset of the Pandemic Lockdown,
and instead of folding quickly, HumanImpact kept their eyes on the prize,
putting out helmet sounding noise rock singlesand EPs consistently over the last few years.
They've since expanded their lineup and they'reset to release their second album on
October fourth on IPACAC. Here's theaptly titled Destroyed to Rebuild, song number
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eight of eleven. On the IndependentMinded podcasts, to Desroyd talks of hold
on this, scarracing, still strong, no joys, so much talk so
(43:19):
passing to realize your trouble, protestsay just be sorry, to revel?
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Well God, why do you do? Stop some some s drinks and drinks,
ranks, sings, scien as,time to read. You're trying to
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read things? Talk to this verysins we nojo sast so talk about starting
(45:51):
to read. So just please gotto eleven scot Fi, fight away,
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make a face, woolen, drekcrow and don't wash in my filsters.
It would right, shosh your mouthsmelling frankluds, do stid, dirty work,
(47:21):
the rest raved thing, the worse. It's it's my time. It's
my time, my clothes, It'smy time. It's a sail break up,
(47:52):
gosh battle, separate my brecking godbreak, I get the run of
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the diapers. You'll kiss some food, drink second dot. There's your voice
upon telling together just the food astime before turning, walk you bad,
break the dead. It's it's mytime. It's my time, is honest,
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my closure, It's my time.Break from stop slight. Sign my
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side to carry out the swag signside, don't the swag sign my side
to carry out side side so funside, try the best your mag don't
go my dog you dump that gob my dog died, My god,
(49:38):
you get the best diet My deestto die. Miss full of people who
can't break a proof That's nothing Morefeaturing the rapper Sinister with a Z and
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the song Stuck off the new albumCarnal on Better Noise Music Nothing More.
As Johnny Hawkins was a guest notonly on Independent Minded about two years ago,
but also on that other podcast,I host The Joy of Bob Ross
talking about his love of Bob andwhy he paints his body before every show.
Johnny's a super cool, approachable dudewho recently relocated from Texas to Tennessee
(50:38):
and promised me we'd go to Whata Burger one day. I'm an in
and out man myself nothing more asone of those bands that never stops touring,
so I'm not gonna hold my breathfor that Burger. But Johnny,
when you're back in music City,let's do this. We'll do it for
Johnny before that Human Impact with Destroyedto rebuild off the forthcoming album Gone Dark
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that's out on October fourth on IPACACRecordings. If you can see yeah,
the numbers will go to eleven.And speaking of former podcast guests, all
the way back at the beginning oftwenty seventeen, I featured New Jersey hard
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rockers one hundred thousand on the podcast, five piece band that combines elements of
new metal and prog rock to makesome really interesting, cerebral, tool sounding
sonics. I was especially impressed withthe band's last full length, Zodiac,
which came out in twenty twenty oneand showcased Richard Mottos's impressive vocals and some
awesome production work. Here's one hundredthousand bass player Andrew Magnatta taking us to
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eleven with some words on the wordsbehind one of the band's most recent singles,
Hey Ron. This is from ourLiminal EP, a group of five
songs that was mostly written in sortof pandemic period. I guess we could
say for the lyrics, Greg andRich and I were kind of exploring the
confusion and trauma that we had alljust come out of as a society,
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reevaluating your relationship to people and materialthings. Rich in this song, in
the second verse wrote one of myfavorite lyrics that we have. All we
need is to decide, Hey,to live and wait to die. We're
all misguided sometimes. He almost tookit out of the song, and I
begged him not to. I rememberbeing so relieved that they left that line
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in the song. Thanks so muchfor supporting the band. You've been so
great to us for a lot ofyears now, and we hope you like
it all the nothing try it SASo it's side st t to me the
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sun from killed me chill so speak, Oh Yes to decide to basle the
(54:40):
way spron skies study everything to achest. So okay true, so true,
(56:00):
so shut s s s so big. Thanks to the artists who shared
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audio and music with us on eleven. Special thanks to Emma and Dan at
Terror Bird for connecting me with theirbands. All the music on Independent Minded
is used with permission of the artist, artist management, and or artist promotional
team, and you can check outthis episode's full playlist with listen links to
everyone we featured at Baldfreak dot comslash podcast. If you're an independent artist
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or you represent one who wants tobe featured on Independent Minded, you can
send a ron An email Ron atbaldfreak dot com, follow me on the
socials at Baldfreakmusic, and you cansubscribe and leave a kind review for the
podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Independent Mind it always was and still remains
a Baldfreak Music production and me knowme fah, I'm still Ron Scalzo.
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You're a national, You're a freak. You're a freak. Could a freak,
could a freak? Could a freakgood? A freak good a freak
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