June 26, 2025 • 52 mins
#162. Paul McDonald holds on to his loved ones, Phoebe Rings drifts towards bleeps and bloops, Peter Salett tunes down and tunes into the natural world. Ron shares new faves from Other Lives, Wombo + more.Sponsored by DistroKid. Get 30% off your membership at distrokid.com/vip/independentmindedSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're the one that should be worried.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're a freak.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You're heading for big.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yo ho ho and a bottle of malt liquor. My friends,
thanks for stumbling into the saloon and just in time
to celebrate this full circle moment. Here, I have a
shot because we've completed a full year of eleven here
on the Independent Minded podcast, and by we I mean me.
(01:01):
It's our monthly check in on eleven new songs made
by independent artists from around the globe, complete with some
words of wisdom from some of the artists themselves. I
started supplementing my long form episodes with these bad boys
in June of twenty twenty four as a solid solution
to keep my ears keen to the scene, connect with
more artists doing the thing, and most importantly, to turn
(01:24):
you kids onto some diamonds hidden deep within the dark
chasms of your music delivery systems. Speaking of diamonds, I
am your host, Ron Scalzo. Let's see twelve episodes times
eleven songs carry the pound sign. That amounts to one
hundred and thirty two new pieces of music I've recommended
on this podcast since our last trip around the Sun.
(01:47):
One hundred and thirty two memorable songs in one year.
That sounds way too optimistic.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Five six seventy eight, ten eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Paul McDonald has some charm Ei ei yoh. I've been
waiting a whole month to do that. It's probably why
the raspy voiced Alabama native charmed the pants off American
Idol viewers back in twenty eleven.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Of course, I think reality TV is the anti Christ.
So let's forgive Paul and fast forward to twenty twenty three,
me watching this shaggy haired shaman and his band, The
Mourning Doves pound through an anthemic set at Nashville's The
Five Spot. In the two plus years since, dude has
been on a tear, touring endlessly and making watershed moments
(02:35):
at spots like Nashville's legendary Grand all Opry. And let's
face it, that's much cooler than meeting Ryan Seacrest. Trust me.
I know Paul's poised to release a new studio album
on July eleventh, called so Long to the Dark Side,
and we already featured Paul's What's the Point on an
earlier episode. Now we're blessed to have him kick this
episode off with some words about the sweet new single
(02:58):
Rose Marie.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Thank y'all, it is Paul McDonald. I'm here to talk
to you about my song rose Marie. I think Rose
Marie is probably one of my favorite songs on the album.
I co wrote this one with the brilliant Brian Wright,
one of my favorite songwriters. You're in Nashville, and we
wrote this song together on the first day we ever
met at his studio. I love this song because it's
(03:23):
it's up for interpretation, you know. I still feel like
when I'm singing it, I don't quite understand or know
what it means. And those are kind of my favorite
songs where you don't really quite understand it. They just
are kind of gifted to you. And this one felt
like one of those songs. But Yeah, for some reason,
when I singing it, I feel like I'm holding on
for dear life, trying to just hang on to someone
(03:46):
that I love, whether it be you know, a partner,
a friend, a parent, you know, anybody that's close to
you before they kind of drift away forever.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
You have to listen to it to sadly so, because
it feels like the song could have a lot of
different meanings, and that's why I love it so much.
Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
A king, get a clear sing, night shade and milk
this hide say dog.
Speaker 9 (04:19):
Mosst o the time, slow, most.
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Seen, steal lies rack, fathy, don't need it, good meason
and wrong even child.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
How can you use your ride here, faver? How can
you use your ride here?
Speaker 12 (04:45):
Clothes pack yet line pain a flea market, start sing.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
Don't lose your cat well, don't lose your mind.
Speaker 13 (05:06):
I could use your ride here' being I could use
you right here.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Girls to me, I could use irl.
Speaker 11 (05:19):
Like you'll beaving.
Speaker 14 (05:21):
I could use your light rolls to me.
Speaker 13 (05:30):
Don't lose your mond me, don't lose your car, don't
lose your mind.
Speaker 15 (05:39):
Rose heavy note in some bad words to imagine in
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the hood, cheese.
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A single song, very one and set prey throus movie.
I can use your ride he feed it.
Speaker 13 (06:20):
I could use you ride here close to me. If
I could use your light, yell feed it.
Speaker 11 (06:32):
I could use your light close me.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I could use your ride here, faby.
Speaker 14 (06:43):
I can't use you ride here close to me.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Don't lose your bath me, don't lose your car way,
don't lose your mind road sweet sweet, let's say.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What's your name?
Speaker 16 (07:22):
Son eleven?
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He brings me slowly.
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She sponster so.
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She's foth landing. It's my heart empty handed, knacks.
Speaker 11 (08:11):
Like the dom thing Jesus the spid in son midwork.
Speaker 14 (08:20):
She's done.
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Saw, she's spying anula. She's cried niff though smart.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
I'm still anyway, still a part and even the nothing's
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gonna change. Oh still want still make me of s.
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SEMs, make me upset, should give pop expecting nowhere heading and.
Speaker 11 (09:17):
I can let do over.
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He still.
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Still hot, even it's gonna change. Still w star, Still
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want bird anyway? Oh still want.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Anyway?
Speaker 11 (10:43):
He pays one cha Wow you want?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
That was Anderson east with Anyway. The Buzzworthy balladeer has
upcoming dates at the Ryman, Austin City Limits. He's done
the late night talk show circuit and was recently Grammy
nominated for Best American Roots Performance. Anderson's new album Worthy
is out now on Rounder Records. The Paul McDonald started
(11:57):
us down the Path with Rosemarie off his fourth coming album,
So Long to the Dark Side, out July eleventh on
ob L. I've been a fan of other lives since
their self titled debut in two thousand and nine. A
cinematic sounding Still Water, Oklahoma band plan to release their
fifth album in October. Since that feels like light years away.
(12:20):
First single, sneak Preview feels extra tasty. Here's the richly
layered Mystic.
Speaker 19 (12:30):
Last outside of the Limits, I remember ever, but it's
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getting so much.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Then is just speak of the huts me and.
Speaker 16 (13:12):
So now from the Mystic, they're all se so get
gone to the scenic.
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Soused me. I remember, I was sening.
Speaker 20 (13:41):
Time spends when you're out not such a great.
Speaker 16 (13:51):
It cuts me and mihing was you you want to.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
Give me?
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T sway S.
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One, two, three, four, five, six, seventy eight, nineteen eleven.
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Eleven's the number for me, don't you see? Eleven's the
number for me? Before Oh.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's London based musician Ryan Lee West, better known as
Rival Consoles, with a theme to the new video game
Mind's Eye. Ryan's atmospheric synth work is reminiscent of genre
icons like John Carpenter, feels the perfect fit for the
gamers circuit. The full score is out now on Erased Tapes.
(19:47):
Before that, other lives with Mystic off the forthcoming album,
Volume five, out October tenth on Play It Again, Sam.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
If you can see Yeah, the numbers all go to eleven.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
New Zealand dream pop band Phoebe Rings is getting some
solid press for their debut album Azarai. Once a solo
project for singer Crystal Choi, Phoebe Rings is now a
full fledged four piece, headed to the US for an
extended tour starting right around Halloween. Here's Crystal to tell
us more about the new song Drifting.
Speaker 21 (20:31):
Hello, Independent Minded Podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
This is Crystal from Phoebe Rings, here to talk about
our song Drifting, written by Sameon, our guitarist. He initially
wrote the chord progression to it. He might have actually
had a very fully fleshed out production, and I was
just humming up some melody which he turned into real
(20:56):
proper melody. I think lyrically, it is about unrequited love.
Whether it's a planet or a moon or a person
we don't actually know.
Speaker 21 (21:08):
It's some kind of being. The most memorable moment of
the making of the song was all four of us
being in Simeon's studio and we all hopped on one
of the synthesizers and made noises. I remember the audio
file was called either Bleep Bloop or Bloop Bloop. It's
(21:28):
a song.
Speaker 22 (21:28):
We all had a lot of fun on Thank You
So Much, in the.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Midst of.
Speaker 23 (22:04):
Swimming inside your low gravity to where and go to end?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So followed you go. I really hope you know.
Speaker 16 (22:36):
We are.
Speaker 24 (22:39):
Sting through the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Moving listening always.
Speaker 21 (23:27):
A mystery.
Speaker 14 (23:33):
Stop taking something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Back say by eleven and eleven.
Speaker 14 (25:25):
And leven.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So that she did.
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Checkout jam Jack alec to be. Let's say through what
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st the that check comes b.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I sele.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Say that Jack does.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Louisville, Kentucky's Wombo giving off major bortis Head vibes with
the haunting title track from there soon to be released
album Danger in Fives, out August eighth on Fire Talk.
Before that, Phoebe Rings and drifting from the band's new
album Azarai Azerai. I don't Know You Say Potato? I
(27:58):
Say Potato Now on car Park Records. I got five
more coming out of the break, including a road movie
inspired new single from some independent minded alumni, plus a
storm a traffic Jam, and a suite for the summer
rain Ah this time of year, don't hit that skip button.
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Hello, Brooklyn is a city known for its wise asses.
I should know Chris Kine and Keith Murray, the New
York duo otherwise known as We Are Scientists prefer to
promote their long running indie rock band with tongues firmly
planted in cheek. Maybe that's why the new video for
what You Want Is Gone seems, especially sincere capturing candid
(29:56):
moments of the band on a European tour and recorded
by the fans who came to see them. We are Scientists,
We're guests on episode seventy five of the podcast, and
much to my delight, they had a hard time playing
it's straight, especially inside the studios of a behemoth top
forty radio station. In your bio, there's a series of
nicknames here that I wanted to kind of dig deeper
(30:17):
into a Keith. We got a kit Yep, Smike Me,
Teek and dark net check. So that's four nicknames and
Chris you're a can Can, Gordon and ring Finger so
your your shorter nickname here? Is there a fourth one?
Kind of in the work there are a couple that
kind of get used, yeah, but not enough to be
(30:39):
an official nickname. What do you guys call each other?
Is it it just like a hodgeponge of all of
these together?
Speaker 11 (30:43):
Or I call him slippers?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 25 (30:45):
To me, he's slammed Dunk.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Is this some of the banter I should expect a
live show.
Speaker 16 (30:50):
Actually, we are going to re use those lines.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Okay, that was too good.
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We're gonna use Slipper.
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I gotta use those.
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see you guys live in June, I know you're playing
in the city. I want to make sure you guys
use these slam Dunk has three a's, by the way, slam.
Speaker 26 (31:05):
And that's an acronym.
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It'll be quick, so that'll be explained at the show.
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We don't spoil that now, all right?
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Cown this boll game sound.
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Name to fall.
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At my sound.
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You are?
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Why you are?
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Just gone?
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So way of cat.
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You can't just wait.
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You won.
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You are?
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It's gone ass in this take and love me. You
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can't just way up around for what.
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You are.
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It was you are it's gone so.
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Up got.
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You?
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You can't just lay.
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You are?
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Why you are it's gone? Why why it's gone?
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He's gone to eleven.
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I go.
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Out in front of me.
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Hus the alligating, the sharp business, the suntimes.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
No, the sky is.
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Always happening without bid, without be They.
Speaker 20 (35:25):
Got read fine and look out now I get my boat.
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What happen doto it?
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No?
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Well they got read by b sickly yellow.
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Light taka.
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Silence silent.
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But that they had the ads now.
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Breathing in blood.
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Then without him, so.
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Answer and so out they got way fine. Where I
get up?
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I just want to.
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I don't as a man.
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There's no world but out. I got pay by.
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Hell, but out they got the fine. No getcause the
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boss wants. Don't think it's as well when out, I
thank god.
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They by.
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You've got nothing on me? A change change, I got
the last, the most the ness.
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Uys stand.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You know the time you want nothing about me? The
train right down the street, get it to you.
Speaker 11 (39:14):
The rich.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
S white lies with the aggressive Nothing on Me the
(40:23):
new surprise single from the UK trio and their first
release in three years. The band admits it's the most
intense song they've ever written, and I ain't complaining. Speaking
of intense songs, Cloud Nothings releases another surprise scream pop
b side from last year's final summer album, We Heard
Traffic Jam back There, and we kicked off a set
(40:45):
of Ronald fanboy bands with We Are Scientists and What
You Want Is Gone Off. The band's new album, Qualifying Miles,
out July eighteenth on Groinland Records Groinland. Prior to the pandemic,
I was proud to spend a couple of years sharing
off of space with NPR's Tiny Desk and the man
(41:06):
who sat behind it, Bob Boylan. When I left New
York to go work in downtown DC, I was already
a fan of Bob's, mostly because his weekly All Songs
Considered show would feature all types of weird shit that
you'd otherwise never hear in the mainstream. I was even
luckier to get to know Bob personally through our work
together for NPR Music, and when I interviewed him for
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Landmark episode one hundred of Independent Minded. One of the
many artists Bob turned me on to UK singer songwriter
Tom Adams, whose brand new album is called.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
After the Rain.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Here's that album's opening track, It's cold Storm.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
In the spring time.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Years ago, when we drove for three days to the coast.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
So is no way to have known of the coming storm.
We grew up in many.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Ways, grew apart over many days, and when the storm did,
fine army break, I was ready for the change.
Speaker 23 (42:28):
Damn diary, Well none of the days passed an hope.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
This is the last of the rain.
Speaker 11 (42:44):
I feel ready for a spring once.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Again, daring. Now the season was a time.
Speaker 11 (42:58):
Let's take worse.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We were escape, going such over.
Speaker 27 (43:09):
Again, these same town the different homes, the same journey
by different boats, and what we had and what we hold, We're.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
Just different things.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
And then the shift off the sound.
Speaker 30 (43:41):
They're rethinking of all of the planets, and that's the storm.
Now face alive, I feel ready for the jam.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
All the time was passed to night.
Speaker 27 (44:07):
Since last to night, I'd feel ready for spring once again.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
Now says a turn.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's time cross Renns escape go away such and the res.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Tom Adams and Storm from the new album After the
Rain out now on Ocean Temple.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
If you can see, the numbers will go to eleven.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Now that the storm is passed, at least on this podcast,
let's settle in on a trank will note with New
York City musician Peter Select's new single from an ambitious
double album nearly fifteen years in the making. Here's Peter
to take us to eleven. What's some words about the
gorgeous Suddenly the Leaves.
Speaker 26 (46:04):
Hi, It's Peter Select talking a little bit about Suddenly
the Leaves, which was the first song that I wrote
for Dance of the Yellow Leaf, which is the companion
piece the follow up record to Sweet for the Summer Rain.
The two records really come from. It's an amalgamation of
a bunch of different forms that I was working with
(46:26):
at the time. I tuned by guitar to a drop
seed tuning kind of randomly and started playing in it,
and it really opened up a new harmonic world for
me and also kind of an access to something very
intense emotionally that was happening at the time. So started
to write a group of songs in this one particular tuning.
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They weren't to a click track, and they had the
kind of ebb and flow the natural feel of the
natural world, the elemental world. And I sent the songs
down to Chris Carmichael, incredible string arranger and former. He
did a bunch of arrangements for me, and after I
got the arrangements back. They were so good inside of
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the songs, but I realized they were also incredible just
on their own, and so I started to stitch together
his string arrangements from different songs, because of course they
were all in the same key, and so they kind
of worked together. I could stitch them together and create
overtures and interstitial music. And then at the same time,
I was also working with a choreographer named Vanessa Walters
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making music for her dance pieces. And you know, in
dance you can bring in a lot of other sounds.
It doesn't have to be just what we strictly know
of as music. And I started to think about, wow,
I could do that for this record as well, and
so Sweet for the summer Rain has more ocean sounds,
wind sounds, rain sounds, and dance of the yellow leaf.
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As a more urban environment, the sound of footsteps walking
on the sidewalk through leaves, the sound of a subway approaching,
the sounds of kids playing in a playground, with the
faint echo of cars rumbling by or the subway rumbling past,
singing birds. Suddenly the leaves are on the ground. No
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one seemed to see them coming down.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Is when you know.
Speaker 26 (48:23):
You turn the corner, and all of a sudden you
feel like the season has shifted, the world has shifted,
something has changed without you even realizing it.
Speaker 25 (48:33):
Suddenly the leaves are on the ground. No one seemed
to see them coming down, fall into the rhythm of the.
Speaker 16 (48:49):
Now in this lone.
Speaker 25 (48:59):
Through the Noah, see her inside before she knows I'm looking,
and her smile. How the second seemed to last for miles.
When they shine, It's written in the least another roundest
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fun for the sony is a father to the father
is a son?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
And what will be remin.
Speaker 25 (49:41):
What is left to come? Okay, when something in the
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air began to turn. Skipping down the stairs and yet
to learn, holding on to beauty, Welo good.
Speaker 31 (50:45):
Broad suddenly believes their brown beak gun for the moon.
Speaker 25 (50:58):
There is no farther makes no difference to the sun.
Speaker 32 (51:04):
It all will be in them, allis left to come,
All will be August left to come.
Speaker 20 (51:29):
Big.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Thanks to the artists who shared stories and music with
us on eleven. Shout out to Emily at Big Hassle,
Emma at Terror Bird, and Kip from Tell All your
Friends for connecting me with their artists. All the music
on Independent Mind that is used with permission of the artist, artists,
legal guardians, blah blah blah. Check out this episode's full
playlist at baldfreak dot com slash podcast and if you
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aren't in the artist or work for one who wants
to be featured on Independent Minded, go ahead and stuff
my inbox at Ron at baldfreak dot com. And the
best way to support what I've been doing in this
space since twenty twelve, subscribe and leave a kind review
on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Independent Mind it always was,
it still remains a bald Freak music production, and me,
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I'm still Ron Scalzo put nice a
You're the one that should be worried.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're a freak.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
You're heading for big.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Yo ho ho and a bottle of malt liquor. My friends,
thanks for stumbling into the saloon and just in time
to celebrate this full circle moment. Here, I have a
shot because we've completed a full year of eleven here
on the Independent Minded podcast, and by we I mean me.
(01:01):
It's our monthly check in on eleven new songs made
by independent artists from around the globe, complete with some
words of wisdom from some of the artists themselves. I
started supplementing my long form episodes with these bad boys
in June of twenty twenty four as a solid solution
to keep my ears keen to the scene, connect with
more artists doing the thing, and most importantly, to turn
(01:24):
you kids onto some diamonds hidden deep within the dark
chasms of your music delivery systems. Speaking of diamonds, I
am your host, Ron Scalzo. Let's see twelve episodes times
eleven songs carry the pound sign. That amounts to one
hundred and thirty two new pieces of music I've recommended
on this podcast since our last trip around the Sun.
(01:47):
One hundred and thirty two memorable songs in one year.
That sounds way too optimistic.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Five six seventy eight, ten eleven.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Paul McDonald has some charm Ei ei yoh. I've been
waiting a whole month to do that. It's probably why
the raspy voiced Alabama native charmed the pants off American
Idol viewers back in twenty eleven.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Me.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Of course, I think reality TV is the anti Christ.
So let's forgive Paul and fast forward to twenty twenty three,
me watching this shaggy haired shaman and his band, The
Mourning Doves pound through an anthemic set at Nashville's The
Five Spot. In the two plus years since, dude has
been on a tear, touring endlessly and making watershed moments
(02:35):
at spots like Nashville's legendary Grand all Opry. And let's
face it, that's much cooler than meeting Ryan Seacrest. Trust me.
I know Paul's poised to release a new studio album
on July eleventh, called so Long to the Dark Side,
and we already featured Paul's What's the Point on an
earlier episode. Now we're blessed to have him kick this
episode off with some words about the sweet new single
(02:58):
Rose Marie.
Speaker 6 (03:00):
Thank y'all, it is Paul McDonald. I'm here to talk
to you about my song rose Marie. I think Rose
Marie is probably one of my favorite songs on the album.
I co wrote this one with the brilliant Brian Wright,
one of my favorite songwriters. You're in Nashville, and we
wrote this song together on the first day we ever
met at his studio. I love this song because it's
(03:23):
it's up for interpretation, you know. I still feel like
when I'm singing it, I don't quite understand or know
what it means. And those are kind of my favorite
songs where you don't really quite understand it. They just
are kind of gifted to you. And this one felt
like one of those songs. But Yeah, for some reason,
when I singing it, I feel like I'm holding on
for dear life, trying to just hang on to someone
(03:46):
that I love, whether it be you know, a partner,
a friend, a parent, you know, anybody that's close to
you before they kind of drift away forever.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (03:58):
You have to listen to it to sadly so, because
it feels like the song could have a lot of
different meanings, and that's why I love it so much.
Thank you all for listening.
Speaker 8 (04:07):
A king, get a clear sing, night shade and milk
this hide say dog.
Speaker 9 (04:19):
Mosst o the time, slow, most.
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Seen, steal lies rack, fathy, don't need it, good meason
and wrong even child.
Speaker 11 (04:38):
How can you use your ride here, faver? How can
you use your ride here?
Speaker 12 (04:45):
Clothes pack yet line pain a flea market, start sing.
Speaker 9 (04:58):
Don't lose your cat well, don't lose your mind.
Speaker 13 (05:06):
I could use your ride here' being I could use
you right here.
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Girls to me, I could use irl.
Speaker 11 (05:19):
Like you'll beaving.
Speaker 14 (05:21):
I could use your light rolls to me.
Speaker 13 (05:30):
Don't lose your mond me, don't lose your car, don't
lose your mind.
Speaker 15 (05:39):
Rose heavy note in some bad words to imagine in
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the hood, cheese.
Speaker 11 (06:08):
A single song, very one and set prey throus movie.
I can use your ride he feed it.
Speaker 13 (06:20):
I could use you ride here close to me. If
I could use your light, yell feed it.
Speaker 11 (06:32):
I could use your light close me.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I could use your ride here, faby.
Speaker 14 (06:43):
I can't use you ride here close to me.
Speaker 9 (06:51):
Don't lose your bath me, don't lose your car way,
don't lose your mind road sweet sweet, let's say.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
What's your name?
Speaker 16 (07:22):
Son eleven?
Speaker 11 (07:57):
He brings me slowly.
Speaker 17 (08:01):
She sponster so.
Speaker 18 (08:06):
She's foth landing. It's my heart empty handed, knacks.
Speaker 11 (08:11):
Like the dom thing Jesus the spid in son midwork.
Speaker 14 (08:20):
She's done.
Speaker 18 (08:23):
Saw, she's spying anula. She's cried niff though smart.
Speaker 11 (08:29):
I'm still anyway, still a part and even the nothing's
(08:52):
gonna change. Oh still want still make me of s.
Speaker 18 (09:08):
SEMs, make me upset, should give pop expecting nowhere heading and.
Speaker 11 (09:17):
I can let do over.
Speaker 16 (09:19):
He still.
Speaker 11 (09:31):
Still hot, even it's gonna change. Still w star, Still
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want bird anyway? Oh still want.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Anyway?
Speaker 11 (10:43):
He pays one cha Wow you want?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
That was Anderson east with Anyway. The Buzzworthy balladeer has
upcoming dates at the Ryman, Austin City Limits. He's done
the late night talk show circuit and was recently Grammy
nominated for Best American Roots Performance. Anderson's new album Worthy
is out now on Rounder Records. The Paul McDonald started
(11:57):
us down the Path with Rosemarie off his fourth coming album,
So Long to the Dark Side, out July eleventh on
ob L. I've been a fan of other lives since
their self titled debut in two thousand and nine. A
cinematic sounding Still Water, Oklahoma band plan to release their
fifth album in October. Since that feels like light years away.
(12:20):
First single, sneak Preview feels extra tasty. Here's the richly
layered Mystic.
Speaker 19 (12:30):
Last outside of the Limits, I remember ever, but it's
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getting so much.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Then is just speak of the huts me and.
Speaker 16 (13:12):
So now from the Mystic, they're all se so get
gone to the scenic.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Soused me. I remember, I was sening.
Speaker 20 (13:41):
Time spends when you're out not such a great.
Speaker 16 (13:51):
It cuts me and mihing was you you want to.
Speaker 10 (14:40):
Give me?
Speaker 14 (14:42):
T sway S.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
One, two, three, four, five, six, seventy eight, nineteen eleven.
Speaker 11 (15:17):
Eleven's the number for me, don't you see? Eleven's the
number for me? Before Oh.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
That's London based musician Ryan Lee West, better known as
Rival Consoles, with a theme to the new video game
Mind's Eye. Ryan's atmospheric synth work is reminiscent of genre
icons like John Carpenter, feels the perfect fit for the
gamers circuit. The full score is out now on Erased Tapes.
(19:47):
Before that, other lives with Mystic off the forthcoming album,
Volume five, out October tenth on Play It Again, Sam.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
If you can see Yeah, the numbers all go to eleven.
Speaker 4 (20:11):
New Zealand dream pop band Phoebe Rings is getting some
solid press for their debut album Azarai. Once a solo
project for singer Crystal Choi, Phoebe Rings is now a
full fledged four piece, headed to the US for an
extended tour starting right around Halloween. Here's Crystal to tell
us more about the new song Drifting.
Speaker 21 (20:31):
Hello, Independent Minded Podcast.
Speaker 5 (20:34):
This is Crystal from Phoebe Rings, here to talk about
our song Drifting, written by Sameon, our guitarist. He initially
wrote the chord progression to it. He might have actually
had a very fully fleshed out production, and I was
just humming up some melody which he turned into real
(20:56):
proper melody. I think lyrically, it is about unrequited love.
Whether it's a planet or a moon or a person
we don't actually know.
Speaker 21 (21:08):
It's some kind of being. The most memorable moment of
the making of the song was all four of us
being in Simeon's studio and we all hopped on one
of the synthesizers and made noises. I remember the audio
file was called either Bleep Bloop or Bloop Bloop. It's
(21:28):
a song.
Speaker 22 (21:28):
We all had a lot of fun on Thank You
So Much, in the.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Midst of.
Speaker 23 (22:04):
Swimming inside your low gravity to where and go to end?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
So followed you go. I really hope you know.
Speaker 16 (22:36):
We are.
Speaker 24 (22:39):
Sting through the galaxy.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Moving listening always.
Speaker 21 (23:27):
A mystery.
Speaker 14 (23:33):
Stop taking something.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Back say by eleven and eleven.
Speaker 14 (25:25):
And leven.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
So that she did.
Speaker 11 (25:38):
Checkout jam Jack alec to be. Let's say through what
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st the that check comes b.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
I sele.
Speaker 11 (26:22):
Say that Jack does.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Louisville, Kentucky's Wombo giving off major bortis Head vibes with
the haunting title track from there soon to be released
album Danger in Fives, out August eighth on Fire Talk.
Before that, Phoebe Rings and drifting from the band's new
album Azarai Azerai. I don't Know You Say Potato? I
(27:58):
Say Potato Now on car Park Records. I got five
more coming out of the break, including a road movie
inspired new single from some independent minded alumni, plus a
storm a traffic Jam, and a suite for the summer
rain Ah this time of year, don't hit that skip button.
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Speaker 11 (28:22):
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Five six seven eighteen.
Speaker 4 (29:34):
Hello, Brooklyn is a city known for its wise asses.
I should know Chris Kine and Keith Murray, the New
York duo otherwise known as We Are Scientists prefer to
promote their long running indie rock band with tongues firmly
planted in cheek. Maybe that's why the new video for
what You Want Is Gone seems, especially sincere capturing candid
(29:56):
moments of the band on a European tour and recorded
by the fans who came to see them. We are Scientists,
We're guests on episode seventy five of the podcast, and
much to my delight, they had a hard time playing
it's straight, especially inside the studios of a behemoth top
forty radio station. In your bio, there's a series of
nicknames here that I wanted to kind of dig deeper
(30:17):
into a Keith. We got a kit Yep, Smike Me,
Teek and dark net check. So that's four nicknames and
Chris you're a can Can, Gordon and ring Finger so
your your shorter nickname here? Is there a fourth one?
Kind of in the work there are a couple that
kind of get used, yeah, but not enough to be
(30:39):
an official nickname. What do you guys call each other?
Is it it just like a hodgeponge of all of
these together?
Speaker 11 (30:43):
Or I call him slippers?
Speaker 5 (30:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 25 (30:45):
To me, he's slammed Dunk.
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Is this some of the banter I should expect a
live show.
Speaker 16 (30:50):
Actually, we are going to re use those lines.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
Okay, that was too good.
Speaker 16 (30:54):
We're gonna use Slipper.
Speaker 11 (30:55):
I gotta use those.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Yeah, I'm gonna write this down because if I come
see you guys live in June, I know you're playing
in the city. I want to make sure you guys
use these slam Dunk has three a's, by the way, slam.
Speaker 26 (31:05):
And that's an acronym.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
It'll be quick, so that'll be explained at the show.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
We don't spoil that now, all right?
Speaker 11 (31:11):
Fair enough dyn clan. What's done? Done?
Speaker 16 (31:51):
And what's cone?
Speaker 11 (31:57):
It is gone?
Speaker 14 (32:03):
Has it this day? You can't just play.
Speaker 11 (32:15):
You are?
Speaker 14 (32:16):
Why you are?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
This guy?
Speaker 14 (32:22):
I swoll.
Speaker 11 (32:26):
Cown this boll game sound.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Name to fall.
Speaker 11 (32:41):
At my sound.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Swell?
Speaker 14 (32:58):
Has it this get?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
You can't just lay.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
You are?
Speaker 14 (33:12):
Why you are?
Speaker 11 (33:15):
Just gone?
Speaker 13 (33:16):
So way of cat.
Speaker 14 (33:22):
You can't just wait.
Speaker 27 (33:29):
You won.
Speaker 7 (33:32):
You are?
Speaker 28 (33:33):
It's gone ass in this take and love me. You
(34:06):
can't just way up around for what.
Speaker 14 (34:12):
You are.
Speaker 11 (34:13):
It was you are it's gone so.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
Up got.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
You?
Speaker 14 (34:24):
You can't just lay.
Speaker 6 (34:30):
You are?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Why you are it's gone? Why why it's gone?
Speaker 1 (34:48):
He's gone to eleven.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
I go.
Speaker 16 (34:55):
Out in front of me.
Speaker 29 (34:58):
Hus the alligating, the sharp business, the suntimes.
Speaker 16 (35:06):
No, the sky is.
Speaker 29 (35:09):
Always happening without bid, without be They.
Speaker 20 (35:25):
Got read fine and look out now I get my boat.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
What happen doto it?
Speaker 4 (35:38):
No?
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Well they got read by b sickly yellow.
Speaker 14 (35:59):
Light taka.
Speaker 7 (36:01):
Silence silent.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
But that they had the ads now.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Breathing in blood.
Speaker 9 (36:12):
Then without him, so.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Answer and so out they got way fine. Where I
get up?
Speaker 14 (36:35):
I just want to.
Speaker 11 (36:36):
I don't as a man.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
There's no world but out. I got pay by.
Speaker 20 (36:45):
Hell, but out they got the fine. No getcause the
(37:22):
boss wants. Don't think it's as well when out, I
thank god.
Speaker 11 (37:30):
They by.
Speaker 2 (38:44):
You've got nothing on me? A change change, I got
the last, the most the ness.
Speaker 11 (38:55):
Uys stand.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
You know the time you want nothing about me? The
train right down the street, get it to you.
Speaker 11 (39:14):
The rich.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
S white lies with the aggressive Nothing on Me the
(40:23):
new surprise single from the UK trio and their first
release in three years. The band admits it's the most
intense song they've ever written, and I ain't complaining. Speaking
of intense songs, Cloud Nothings releases another surprise scream pop
b side from last year's final summer album, We Heard
Traffic Jam back There, and we kicked off a set
(40:45):
of Ronald fanboy bands with We Are Scientists and What
You Want Is Gone Off. The band's new album, Qualifying Miles,
out July eighteenth on Groinland Records Groinland. Prior to the pandemic,
I was proud to spend a couple of years sharing
off of space with NPR's Tiny Desk and the man
(41:06):
who sat behind it, Bob Boylan. When I left New
York to go work in downtown DC, I was already
a fan of Bob's, mostly because his weekly All Songs
Considered show would feature all types of weird shit that
you'd otherwise never hear in the mainstream. I was even
luckier to get to know Bob personally through our work
together for NPR Music, and when I interviewed him for
(41:27):
Landmark episode one hundred of Independent Minded. One of the
many artists Bob turned me on to UK singer songwriter
Tom Adams, whose brand new album is called.
Speaker 11 (41:38):
After the Rain.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Here's that album's opening track, It's cold Storm.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
In the spring time.
Speaker 7 (41:47):
Years ago, when we drove for three days to the coast.
Speaker 3 (41:55):
So is no way to have known of the coming storm.
We grew up in many.
Speaker 7 (42:09):
Ways, grew apart over many days, and when the storm did,
fine army break, I was ready for the change.
Speaker 23 (42:28):
Damn diary, Well none of the days passed an hope.
Speaker 7 (42:37):
This is the last of the rain.
Speaker 11 (42:44):
I feel ready for a spring once.
Speaker 2 (42:47):
Again, daring. Now the season was a time.
Speaker 11 (42:58):
Let's take worse.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
We were escape, going such over.
Speaker 27 (43:09):
Again, these same town the different homes, the same journey
by different boats, and what we had and what we hold, We're.
Speaker 7 (43:31):
Just different things.
Speaker 3 (43:36):
And then the shift off the sound.
Speaker 30 (43:41):
They're rethinking of all of the planets, and that's the storm.
Now face alive, I feel ready for the jam.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
All the time was passed to night.
Speaker 27 (44:07):
Since last to night, I'd feel ready for spring once again.
Speaker 11 (44:24):
Now says a turn.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
It's time cross Renns escape go away such and the res.
Speaker 4 (45:25):
Tom Adams and Storm from the new album After the
Rain out now on Ocean Temple.
Speaker 1 (45:34):
If you can see, the numbers will go to eleven.
Speaker 4 (45:45):
Now that the storm is passed, at least on this podcast,
let's settle in on a trank will note with New
York City musician Peter Select's new single from an ambitious
double album nearly fifteen years in the making. Here's Peter
to take us to eleven. What's some words about the
gorgeous Suddenly the Leaves.
Speaker 26 (46:04):
Hi, It's Peter Select talking a little bit about Suddenly
the Leaves, which was the first song that I wrote
for Dance of the Yellow Leaf, which is the companion
piece the follow up record to Sweet for the Summer Rain.
The two records really come from. It's an amalgamation of
a bunch of different forms that I was working with
(46:26):
at the time. I tuned by guitar to a drop
seed tuning kind of randomly and started playing in it,
and it really opened up a new harmonic world for
me and also kind of an access to something very
intense emotionally that was happening at the time. So started
to write a group of songs in this one particular tuning.
(46:48):
They weren't to a click track, and they had the
kind of ebb and flow the natural feel of the
natural world, the elemental world. And I sent the songs
down to Chris Carmichael, incredible string arranger and former. He
did a bunch of arrangements for me, and after I
got the arrangements back. They were so good inside of
(47:08):
the songs, but I realized they were also incredible just
on their own, and so I started to stitch together
his string arrangements from different songs, because of course they
were all in the same key, and so they kind
of worked together. I could stitch them together and create
overtures and interstitial music. And then at the same time,
I was also working with a choreographer named Vanessa Walters
(47:33):
making music for her dance pieces. And you know, in
dance you can bring in a lot of other sounds.
It doesn't have to be just what we strictly know
of as music. And I started to think about, wow,
I could do that for this record as well, and
so Sweet for the summer Rain has more ocean sounds,
wind sounds, rain sounds, and dance of the yellow leaf.
(47:57):
As a more urban environment, the sound of footsteps walking
on the sidewalk through leaves, the sound of a subway approaching,
the sounds of kids playing in a playground, with the
faint echo of cars rumbling by or the subway rumbling past,
singing birds. Suddenly the leaves are on the ground. No
(48:20):
one seemed to see them coming down.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
Is when you know.
Speaker 26 (48:23):
You turn the corner, and all of a sudden you
feel like the season has shifted, the world has shifted,
something has changed without you even realizing it.
Speaker 25 (48:33):
Suddenly the leaves are on the ground. No one seemed
to see them coming down, fall into the rhythm of the.
Speaker 16 (48:49):
Now in this lone.
Speaker 25 (48:59):
Through the Noah, see her inside before she knows I'm looking,
and her smile. How the second seemed to last for miles.
When they shine, It's written in the least another roundest
(49:28):
fun for the sony is a father to the father
is a son?
Speaker 1 (49:36):
And what will be remin.
Speaker 25 (49:41):
What is left to come? Okay, when something in the
(50:28):
air began to turn. Skipping down the stairs and yet
to learn, holding on to beauty, Welo good.
Speaker 31 (50:45):
Broad suddenly believes their brown beak gun for the moon.
Speaker 25 (50:58):
There is no farther makes no difference to the sun.
Speaker 32 (51:04):
It all will be in them, allis left to come,
All will be August left to come.
Speaker 20 (51:29):
Big.
Speaker 4 (51:30):
Thanks to the artists who shared stories and music with
us on eleven. Shout out to Emily at Big Hassle,
Emma at Terror Bird, and Kip from Tell All your
Friends for connecting me with their artists. All the music
on Independent Mind that is used with permission of the artist, artists,
legal guardians, blah blah blah. Check out this episode's full
playlist at baldfreak dot com slash podcast and if you
(51:53):
aren't in the artist or work for one who wants
to be featured on Independent Minded, go ahead and stuff
my inbox at Ron at baldfreak dot com. And the
best way to support what I've been doing in this
space since twenty twelve, subscribe and leave a kind review
on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Independent Mind it always was,
it still remains a bald Freak music production, and me,
(52:17):
I'm still Ron Scalzo put nice a
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