February 21, 2025 • 53 mins
#155. Social Station finally meets their record label, mclusky makes a comeback with a phallic opener, Love In Reverse stops so band members can move forward, and Ron shares new faves from Niis, Preoccupations, + more.Sponsored by DistroKid. Get 30% off your membership at distrokid.com/vip/independentminded
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're the one that should be worried.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're a freak.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're reading for beg trouble, beg trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This past November, right before Thanksgiving, Spotify removed Independent Minded
from its platform. There was no email, no letter, NARIA notification,
nor warning. Frankly, I was too busy carving my turkey
to notice until early December, but when the last tupp
aware of leftover yams was empty, I investigated. The week
(00:41):
before Christmas, Spotify responded to my form letter inquiry via email.
The subject line included possibly infringing notification, warning and a
long claim number. Was there an actual human delivering this warning?
An Amy, maybe an Aaron?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Or was it the bots?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because you could reason with a human, well some humans.
A few back and forths followed, including a well penned
argument on my part about how Spotify for Creators and
Independent Minded were on the same team, how we were
both ambassadors of music discovery, only they made billions and
I made shekels. I had mentioned that part, but.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They know it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And most importantly, how the music and nearly all the
episodes was used to tell a story, often by the
subjects themselves. A music interview podcast without music was like
a painting without paint. The bots deliberated, and within hours
a decision was made. Upon further review, the content has
been restored. The message self destructed before I even had
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a chance to thank the manbot for listening to reason.
So mark it down in the book. A small victory
for a little guy. But it all feels temporary. I
hear the rumblings. It's only a matter of time. AI
is going to tear through the web, start flagging every
little piece some unauthorized music, and without context, no provocation,
(02:04):
automated emails will rain, empires will fall. I've made over
one hundred and fifty episodes, and I have no contracts,
no documentation of approval from any of the more than
two hundred indie artists I've featured on Independent Minded since
twenty twelve. All I've had since day one is verbal consent,
artist after artist, episode after episode, Because God forbid, an
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artist I'm interviewing should want my listeners to hear their
music too, especially if it's new. What good would that
do them?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Sheesh?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If thirteen years, no one big or small has called
to complain, sent me a letter, trolled me online, weird
al hasn't hunted me down. Henry Rollins hasn't threatened to
twist me into a pretzel. They've all been cool. As
an independent artist for the past quarter century. Every scrap
of exposure I've received, every blog review, song repost, and
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college radio spin has been met with gratitude. For the
bedroom artists, this sort of currency should feel extra valuable,
rather than some sort of violation independent mind. It is
small potatoes, no corporate masters, no silver spoons. I'm just
the middle aged, middle class guy making audio in my
second bedroom a couple of times a month and releasing
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it through the usual pipelines to a modest audience. So
why not just pack it in and go watch Roda?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
It's not that simple.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I've built something here. This is an archive of my
hard work, my diligence, my success and my failure, a
validation of life, exploration, creative empathy, and the occasional fanboy moment.
Music has been my passion since infancy. It's where I
go when my days are dark and when my dog
has cancer. And because I have an inherent understanding of
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the independent struggle, I consider it a duty to keep
waving my bald freak flag for undiscovered artists, and just
like my radio forefathers who made gazillions of dollars from
advertisers for decades and given the artists who populate their
airwaves bupkus, I expect playing a good chunk of a
song I like on my music interview podcast to be
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an inalienable, unpunishable right. So rather than give up or
turn myself in a marching on and when the bots
come to take my blood, let them come, give me
a reason to fight.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Five sixty seven Hello.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
One of the other reasons I do this podcast. I
grew up in a Brooklyn scene full of talented creatives,
folks who I shared stages with at bygone caverns like
CBGB's the Elbow Room, the Lions Then and the Crazy
Country Club. A lot of those cats are still doing
the thing, and it brings me joy to hear their
success stories, never mind spreading the gospel here in this space.
(04:53):
My friend in high school bandmate Paul Shapiro aka Paul Todd,
has been the nexus of DC based darkwave bands and
social station for more than a decade, and when I
talked with him in twenty nineteen for episode ninety one
of Independent minded, he'd recently made Social Station a family affair,
adding his teenage son Jacob to the lineup on bass guitar. Today,
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both of Paul's kids populate the band, and among his
other notable achievements since we last spoke six years ago,
Paul signed with influential German label Young and Cold Records.
Here's Paul, Jacob and Social Station's newest member, daughter slash
sister Natalie to tell us about the new and strange
adventures the transpire from signing with a European imprint and
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the making of their new single, Pink Turns Blue.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Is Paul here from Social Station?
Speaker 9 (05:40):
This is Jacob speaking, This says Natalie.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
It was part of a spring tour that we did
last year. We started out on the East Coast playing
some shows and classic clubs like QXT in New Jersey
and then go into playing the Red Party with Sean Templar,
and that really set the stage for us going over
to play at the Wave Gothic Festival and for us
being on that European tour. One of the most amazing
(06:04):
experiences was being able to stop in the Young and
Cold Record studio. We've been working with them for years
five years since our debut album with them, but we
never actually met them in person. This experience of being
with them at the festival and then being able to
go into the studios was definitely far beyond any of
my expectations.
Speaker 9 (06:24):
Yeah, I know, using the vintage synthesizers, I mean, the
stand up piano that was in the studio really helped
us create Paintern's Blue, especially using like the original Lin
drum machine was sick.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Overall.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
Yeah, being in Germany really helped us craft this new single.
This first single is the first time I've done vocals
with Social Stations, So with Daniel's help and confidence being
in the booth making everything seamless to record really gave
me the confidence boost to jump in and take over
vocals for the first time.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
It's a big drum solo. In the mill of the song,
Natalie had drum pads like these octag on the rump
as on the floor.
Speaker 11 (07:02):
We're trying to figure out how I could play with
the sticks and have it sound right on the song
being electronic. Put them on the floor, plug them in
and I and probably about like a minute, just made
a beat and it was that was it.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
It was done.
Speaker 12 (07:16):
It was awesome.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Being in that studio is something that we're always gonna remember,
and hopefully we can get back there again sometime soon.
Wrap up her album, which hopefully we'll get put out
there sometime later this year.
Speaker 13 (07:29):
I Light the Way, Sit in the cage, listen to
news Pardim move so far away.
Speaker 14 (07:37):
It's there in the page What you do, Chase something New.
Speaker 13 (07:59):
Time Headntorlu waiting for you, Rose His Friend You Love
up to you Amtorns Blue only hurts when you feed,
It only hurts. It's so Lie only hurts when you feed,
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It only hurts.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
It's so Lie.
Speaker 13 (08:40):
Roses Friend Die my head at Turns Blue Waiting for you,
ros Friend Belove my head up to you as Blue
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Rouses your Friend sign by an Anxious waits for.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
You Rouses Friend Love.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
Sucks for you, Angliss.
Speaker 13 (09:50):
Blue Roses Time Answer Food Waiting for You.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Roses sn.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Social Station with Pink Turns Blue out now on Young
and Cold Records, with the forthcoming album to be announced
later this year, The Grats Kids, I feel like a
proud uncle.
Speaker 12 (10:23):
If you can see the numbers will go to eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
John Carpenter, the filmmaker and musician known as the Master
of Horror is killing it in his golden years, making
all types of John Carpentry albums over the past decade,
including reissues, reworkings, and remakes of the soundtracks that made
him a legend. Cruising with Mister Scratch is a bonus
cut off jc's recently released Lost Themes tenth Anniversary edition
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and its quintessential evil and synthesizer form. The cover of
the new vinyl features a photo of Carpenter's face enveloped
in smoke and looking as devilish as ever. God bless this.
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Man st.
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St st st st.
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St eleven and eleven.
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And Len.
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What we do is, if we need that extra push
over the cliff, you know what we do, put it up.
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To a light labin exactly.
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Frequency we can opread easily to look at the old
seven stay your present, shut.
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Jun run und so we can pay b.
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Round the Leglet's go on the say I'm doing the
first begin.
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Everything you'll purge shake.
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The shame of the stakes tablet here a thousand thirty
years ago to get the pace.
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Going, so so I can.
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Try to get pa sing there.
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No wood and waves as well as the now again.
Speaker 21 (20:48):
Focus on go and shield, come and your pattern again.
Speaker 19 (20:55):
Who you're a part comes up in me A think.
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God, just shruck.
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Born, come pass.
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Get broken sense ruckus.
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You don't designs.
Speaker 18 (21:17):
It's a snob should say times sis and the best
to get anything.
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And I know, but I get shake the shame or
mistake un and must have happened.
Speaker 22 (21:32):
You tair a thouts tears.
Speaker 11 (21:34):
So go taking the pains and going the stomach so
I can try.
Speaker 6 (21:38):
To forget anything that I know the most and ways as.
Speaker 17 (21:42):
Five and now I cannot focus on.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Go on and bresh, you take the shots. I'm doing
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my best.
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Then I guess say the same mistakes Exaun made.
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The must have happened.
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If they get the parents but not so at the time.
Speaker 13 (22:31):
Again, everything that I don't got any ways to find.
Speaker 23 (22:36):
Now and that I can't focus on, I'm going shot
down those sisters.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I'm doing my best to forget.
Speaker 17 (22:46):
They shake the shame of the stakes sound made it
must have.
Speaker 6 (22:51):
Happened in.
Speaker 12 (22:54):
Food Go.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
The new single from Preoccupations is focused from their next album,
ill at Ease. I've loved this band since they were
Viet Cong and one of my former NPR colleagues gifted
me a band T shirt that I still wear to
this day. I'm psyched to hear their latest out May
ninth on Born Losers Before that four seconds Ago with
Bump the Lamp. The electronic duo consisting of Misha Mansor
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and Jake Bowen is a spinoff of one of progressive
metal's most brutal and beautiful active bands, Periphery. Four seconds ago.
Sophomore release one thousand Needles is out February twenty first
on three Dot Recordings. Where is it three dot.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Either way?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And we heard some spooky scraps from John Carpenter cruising
with Mister Scratch off the just released tenth anniversary edition
of Lost Themes. Nashville musician Adam Wright has written songs
for Garth Brooks, Brandy Clark, Alan Jackson, and lee Anne Womack.
Now we're stepping out of the writer's room and into
the crawl space.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
See what I did there?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's the Cashy Fur single from Wright's eighteen track collection,
divided into slices or signs in Adam's case.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Now with the riders down the stiegs, and that does
down with the dark and the dag and the bud
down where you re rights things in your b game rage.
Speaker 20 (24:17):
Down where you can hear the bloorboards cry down where
you're good and standing up if you.
Speaker 24 (24:22):
Drop down up died down in the pros, Down where
the needle gets down in.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
The door, down where to get awady.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
You deserve down whether you do me array down.
Speaker 12 (24:38):
In the prow.
Speaker 20 (24:41):
State down there nothing you will leave it through down
where the day I'll.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
Ever get through, Down and whenever.
Speaker 7 (24:53):
They out side oil face.
Speaker 20 (24:57):
Down where the language on all the bar, down where
the devil.
Speaker 24 (25:00):
Is haang in his heart and now't where the cotton
knos kiss your heart down in the prol.
Speaker 13 (25:09):
Now where the needle gets down, he's a nerve.
Speaker 24 (25:11):
Down where your get a wady you deserve down where
the reel.
Speaker 20 (25:16):
And ray down in the broll see down everything you
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li around down.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
With you never one good song.
Speaker 24 (25:53):
Down you always knew you belong down in the proll me.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Down where the needle gets down near the nord. Now
where you get a wady you deserve, down where the
ain't no me, Now.
Speaker 24 (26:15):
Where the needle gets down here there nour then ready
get anywhere down where there ain't no me, they ain't
raised down and the.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Froz what's your name?
Speaker 12 (26:51):
Son? Eleven chaps a fare.
Speaker 23 (27:11):
Chut, her friend chucks a shot. I'm sorry, got your dough.
It's true, he's hug her friend.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Chance not you.
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Touch her friend Chucks, go.
Speaker 23 (27:25):
Fir touch my friend Chucks for sure, I say, says
crits about I saw, then.
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Says drips, they're your bouts. You said such, just go
su shame for such a t. The father you love nothing,
he said, So just what I say for such a t.
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The fam you love nor jos the fire.
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Shut the fu chage for sure. I breding that show
to check.
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I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 23 (28:08):
No, my gosh, just my god, change good fun, Just
go God jugs the shore, the shore le petcho to
stop work?
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What child? What bad?
Speaker 12 (28:25):
What do?
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The search said, just precise shave precisely turn the value
love nothing.
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The sas sunest precise shave this, I say.
Speaker 6 (28:40):
To your value all nose.
Speaker 21 (28:51):
Your politician slaama, No, leave your politician slover Yah.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
By way of the Exploding Dickhead is the first single
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The stalwart indie has long released music from some of
my all time faves, most famously label co founder Mike
Patton and his myriad projects. McCluskey's new album, The World
Is Still Here and So Are We is out May ninth,
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with select dates in the UK to follow. I got
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Garage rockers Niece lists themselves on their band campage as
a band, but the first tune off their forthcoming album,
Nie World gives off serious, gritty grunge rock vibes reminiscent
of nineties stalwarts Whole and Verruca Assault. I'm gonna go
make a sloppy joe Let's kick off four in a
row from female fronted rock bands as we inch closer
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to eleven. On the Independent Minded podcast, this one's called lowlife.
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I give you, but I don't want to chill.
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Anyone.
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May Was it you?
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I guess you couldn't been.
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It was that me.
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All the girls who.
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Say dream bod you couldn't.
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Do chetches.
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And on the Lasty Chair.
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Word goody toors, gimber than.
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Be do your pressures?
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Do you hate what you say?
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Has it been the sny.
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Hollow?
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Who's your friend?
Speaker 21 (33:21):
Any scuse?
Speaker 6 (33:55):
Nothing's good?
Speaker 3 (33:58):
The kill me.
Speaker 6 (34:02):
And they never again.
Speaker 4 (34:06):
You'll think.
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You'll take it out away.
Speaker 26 (34:12):
Another bush.
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Is write day.
Speaker 27 (35:02):
Least go to eleven.
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I didn't I think if.
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I find you there.
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Now we're spending every day together.
Speaker 17 (35:18):
We brush short teeth and then you bashma hair. I'm
just trying to make you laugh. Well, your whole world
is changing. Back at home.
Speaker 28 (35:38):
We can stay in this hotel room, pretend there's nowhere
else to go. I think I'm a massa cast.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
I know you can harm me.
Speaker 21 (36:02):
Beside, I just do.
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Sleeping through the flight, I didn't set an alarm, and.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I don't care.
Speaker 29 (36:20):
Laying in your eyes blackout color in snow daylight, and
staying out drinking beers.
Speaker 26 (36:35):
I love it when I make your friends live.
Speaker 25 (36:40):
I love how much they love you.
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And all the.
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Fun that you guys have.
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I just said, I just.
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Ercyer mouth, shut it up, fucking.
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Like it's like I do just do.
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Think I'm a massic case.
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I know you can hurt.
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Cause I'm like.
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I just do.
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Think I'm a mascase.
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I'm a joy do good result just.
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One two three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
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Eleven's the number for me, don't you seriously?
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Eleven's the number for before.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Oh go call the goodness.
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It's personal business, shall looks not the business.
Speaker 17 (39:03):
I'm seeing my face again.
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We go down that road again, maybe.
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Baby singing, do be.
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Calls pos business John, haven't let me.
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Pus business.
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Phone and go little Delicia dong bat. The hoods will
never feel under the thing.
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One of people fuck up.
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I'm seeing my face again.
Speaker 21 (39:40):
We go down that road again, maybe maybe.
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Sing and then you go Colin, no.
Speaker 13 (39:51):
Persson, no business John. Let me say all.
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Business twenty is back.
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In vision kicks right around nine ninety six. I ever
dream you honest, I'd band with me. Looka the witness, it's.
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Personal not business. Shot let litending.
Speaker 29 (41:53):
He's a he's or fella ever tend everything's all right?
Speaker 17 (41:59):
Or sure you're shut. I was on my life, break free,
another lynching in the streets, and but they like no
one could see no rock meaning justiny, and I could
still hear him be. I can't breathe. Eight minutes forty
six seconds of Paine, hundred years of shame, and I'm blaming.
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It all along dude, care norm callic.
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S my name you no more pad and love.
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Holy you're playing.
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Mister no.
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Regard to life. You kill my nuts and kids laugh
went rockets flying through the night. Yeah nothing, Master gets
her the hide wall.
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That's to thank God.
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I don't up this kind of sound.
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Freedom you get.
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Im suk a better start. Back to the Misto, Haad and.
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Brow worldly you may back, mister, I've happen, mask Stan,
I'm had, so.
Speaker 17 (43:47):
I go ahead and break free. Before that, you break me.
We're stores in my way, Smilien.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Looking a poor head.
Speaker 17 (43:59):
And bray it freeze Ma did you break me? The persons?
My mother, Alloy, Lord cocking Cockain shut shut.
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You up?
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I had yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 17 (45:06):
Said oh my god, I said, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
That's the last internationale with Master, the new self released
single by the politically charged New York duo, one half
of which was a guest unindependent minded singer Delilah Pause
talk to me on episode seventy nine back in twenty eighteen,
the last episode I ever did while living and working
in the Rotten Apple, Sleigh Bells is back with want
to start a band? No Thanks, no offense, too much drama.
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The new York duo returns with its first new release
in nearly four years. Out now on Mom and Pop.
We heard Girl Puppy with I Just Do exclamation point.
Becca harvey sophomore album Sweetness is out March twenty eighth
on Captured Tracks, and we kicked off along set of
Girl Power with Niice and Lowlife off the new album
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Nie World that's also out March twenty eighth. If you
can see Yeah, the numbers will go to eleven. One
of my more memory recent interviews happened inside the Tampa,
Florida home of Michael Farentino, where the love and reverse
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singer regaled me with tales of major label mishaps, do
wop origins and creative persistence. True to form, Michael, while
maintaining a day job and a relationship in a suburban neighborhood,
has never stopped answering the muses call, spending hours in
the basement with his guitars, his daw and the occasional
glass of wine. And thanks to his prolific nature, a
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band I discovered in the middle nineteen nineties, would release
not one or two, but three new albums over the
past two years. Even though Michael can't stop making music.
He's moving forward and stopping. Love and Reverse two on
that for a second. The band's supposed swan song, keep Upright,
was just released. Here's Michael to give us an explanation
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and tell us about the album track and possible predictor
of what's coming in twenty twenty five. Summer of Horror.
Speaker 31 (47:54):
So Summer of Horror that was actually written about a
very tumultuous and horrific divorce slash custody battle that I
went through at my first wife. We also musically wanted
to make a record that was, you know, kind of
an homage of sorts to all the rock music we
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grew up with from the sixties through the nineties, t
Rex meets Kiss meets David Bowie. As far as this
being our final album, the truth is it's really not
our final album. The final album is really Amygdala, the
previous album that's the last thing we ever recorded together
(48:36):
as Love and Reverse. But this will be the final
release by Love and Reverse. We really can't get together
and perform live, so these are just, you know, albums
that we've been creating, and that's fine and all, but
I think we both want to kind of go off
into some different directions and don't want to be confined
to what people might expect from a love and Reverse album.
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I also don't want to disappoint people that are expecting
a certain thing. Just like if I was to buy
a Zzy Top record, I want it to be zzy Top.
I don't want it to be zz Top doing electronic music.
But I do want to do way more out there
kind of things, and I plan on doing that, and
Andres and I have decided that if we do work together,
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it'll be under some other name, and we certainly won't
be retreading the past. We'll be going forward into different
genres and you know, experimental ideas, and maybe some of
it will be very poppy.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Who knows.
Speaker 12 (49:33):
We don't even know where we might go next.
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That's some want seazel and.
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Stress.
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So simp.
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No SAMs, so fufet now still stand I never really, I.
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Was just on my side, ling me did the side.
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Aside still tell one way, still tell.
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This one, a lovely way to.
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Sotn this one.
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Another way down.
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My siber O pra my feople was SUPI, but so.
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Was she lit.
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Submit surprise ringing was just my side.
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She duck Bay and the side.
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Still ten fall another way, so ten mother Wall.
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Then the way to.
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Come back min come back, come back.
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Big.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Thanks to the artist who shared stories and music with
us on eleven. All music on Independent Mind that is
used via verbal consent of the artist, artist management, and
door artist promotional team. In other words, no what he said,
don't do it. You can check out this episode's full
playlist at baldfreak dot com, slash podcast and if you're
an indie artist or you represent one who wants to
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be featured on Independent Minded, send your note and your
links to Ron at baldfreak dot com. Follow me online
at Baldfreak music and subscribe and leave a kind review
on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Hi Spotify Independent Mind it
always was and still remains a bald for music production
and me. I'm still Ron Scalzo.
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You're a national, You're a freak.
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I know, I don't, I know, I know, I know,
You're the one that should be worried.
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You're a freak.
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You're reading for beg trouble, beg trouble.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
This past November, right before Thanksgiving, Spotify removed Independent Minded
from its platform. There was no email, no letter, NARIA notification,
nor warning. Frankly, I was too busy carving my turkey
to notice until early December, but when the last tupp
aware of leftover yams was empty, I investigated. The week
(00:41):
before Christmas, Spotify responded to my form letter inquiry via email.
The subject line included possibly infringing notification, warning and a
long claim number. Was there an actual human delivering this warning?
An Amy, maybe an Aaron?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Or was it the bots?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Because you could reason with a human, well some humans.
A few back and forths followed, including a well penned
argument on my part about how Spotify for Creators and
Independent Minded were on the same team, how we were
both ambassadors of music discovery, only they made billions and
I made shekels. I had mentioned that part, but.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
They know it.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And most importantly, how the music and nearly all the
episodes was used to tell a story, often by the
subjects themselves. A music interview podcast without music was like
a painting without paint. The bots deliberated, and within hours
a decision was made. Upon further review, the content has
been restored. The message self destructed before I even had
(01:43):
a chance to thank the manbot for listening to reason.
So mark it down in the book. A small victory
for a little guy. But it all feels temporary. I
hear the rumblings. It's only a matter of time. AI
is going to tear through the web, start flagging every
little piece some unauthorized music, and without context, no provocation,
(02:04):
automated emails will rain, empires will fall. I've made over
one hundred and fifty episodes, and I have no contracts,
no documentation of approval from any of the more than
two hundred indie artists I've featured on Independent Minded since
twenty twelve. All I've had since day one is verbal consent,
artist after artist, episode after episode, Because God forbid, an
(02:27):
artist I'm interviewing should want my listeners to hear their
music too, especially if it's new. What good would that
do them?
Speaker 5 (02:34):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:35):
Sheesh?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
If thirteen years, no one big or small has called
to complain, sent me a letter, trolled me online, weird
al hasn't hunted me down. Henry Rollins hasn't threatened to
twist me into a pretzel. They've all been cool. As
an independent artist for the past quarter century. Every scrap
of exposure I've received, every blog review, song repost, and
(02:58):
college radio spin has been met with gratitude. For the
bedroom artists, this sort of currency should feel extra valuable,
rather than some sort of violation independent mind. It is
small potatoes, no corporate masters, no silver spoons. I'm just
the middle aged, middle class guy making audio in my
second bedroom a couple of times a month and releasing
(03:20):
it through the usual pipelines to a modest audience. So
why not just pack it in and go watch Roda?
Speaker 7 (03:26):
It's not that simple.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
I've built something here. This is an archive of my
hard work, my diligence, my success and my failure, a
validation of life, exploration, creative empathy, and the occasional fanboy moment.
Music has been my passion since infancy. It's where I
go when my days are dark and when my dog
has cancer. And because I have an inherent understanding of
(03:50):
the independent struggle, I consider it a duty to keep
waving my bald freak flag for undiscovered artists, and just
like my radio forefathers who made gazillions of dollars from
advertisers for decades and given the artists who populate their
airwaves bupkus, I expect playing a good chunk of a
song I like on my music interview podcast to be
(04:10):
an inalienable, unpunishable right. So rather than give up or
turn myself in a marching on and when the bots
come to take my blood, let them come, give me
a reason to fight.
Speaker 7 (04:26):
Five sixty seven Hello.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
One of the other reasons I do this podcast. I
grew up in a Brooklyn scene full of talented creatives,
folks who I shared stages with at bygone caverns like
CBGB's the Elbow Room, the Lions Then and the Crazy
Country Club. A lot of those cats are still doing
the thing, and it brings me joy to hear their
success stories, never mind spreading the gospel here in this space.
(04:53):
My friend in high school bandmate Paul Shapiro aka Paul Todd,
has been the nexus of DC based darkwave bands and
social station for more than a decade, and when I
talked with him in twenty nineteen for episode ninety one
of Independent minded, he'd recently made Social Station a family affair,
adding his teenage son Jacob to the lineup on bass guitar. Today,
(05:14):
both of Paul's kids populate the band, and among his
other notable achievements since we last spoke six years ago,
Paul signed with influential German label Young and Cold Records.
Here's Paul, Jacob and Social Station's newest member, daughter slash
sister Natalie to tell us about the new and strange
adventures the transpire from signing with a European imprint and
(05:34):
the making of their new single, Pink Turns Blue.
Speaker 8 (05:38):
Is Paul here from Social Station?
Speaker 9 (05:40):
This is Jacob speaking, This says Natalie.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
It was part of a spring tour that we did
last year. We started out on the East Coast playing
some shows and classic clubs like QXT in New Jersey
and then go into playing the Red Party with Sean Templar,
and that really set the stage for us going over
to play at the Wave Gothic Festival and for us
being on that European tour. One of the most amazing
(06:04):
experiences was being able to stop in the Young and
Cold Record studio. We've been working with them for years
five years since our debut album with them, but we
never actually met them in person. This experience of being
with them at the festival and then being able to
go into the studios was definitely far beyond any of
my expectations.
Speaker 9 (06:24):
Yeah, I know, using the vintage synthesizers, I mean, the
stand up piano that was in the studio really helped
us create Paintern's Blue, especially using like the original Lin
drum machine was sick.
Speaker 10 (06:36):
Overall.
Speaker 9 (06:36):
Yeah, being in Germany really helped us craft this new single.
This first single is the first time I've done vocals
with Social Stations, So with Daniel's help and confidence being
in the booth making everything seamless to record really gave
me the confidence boost to jump in and take over
vocals for the first time.
Speaker 8 (06:55):
It's a big drum solo. In the mill of the song,
Natalie had drum pads like these octag on the rump
as on the floor.
Speaker 11 (07:02):
We're trying to figure out how I could play with
the sticks and have it sound right on the song
being electronic. Put them on the floor, plug them in
and I and probably about like a minute, just made
a beat and it was that was it.
Speaker 9 (07:16):
It was done.
Speaker 12 (07:16):
It was awesome.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
Being in that studio is something that we're always gonna remember,
and hopefully we can get back there again sometime soon.
Wrap up her album, which hopefully we'll get put out
there sometime later this year.
Speaker 13 (07:29):
I Light the Way, Sit in the cage, listen to
news Pardim move so far away.
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It's there in the page What you do, Chase something New.
Speaker 13 (07:59):
Time Headntorlu waiting for you, Rose His Friend You Love
up to you Amtorns Blue only hurts when you feed,
It only hurts. It's so Lie only hurts when you feed,
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It only hurts.
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It's so Lie.
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Roses Friend Die my head at Turns Blue Waiting for you,
ros Friend Belove my head up to you as Blue
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Rouses your Friend sign by an Anxious waits for.
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You Rouses Friend Love.
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Sucks for you, Angliss.
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Blue Roses Time Answer Food Waiting for You.
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Roses sn.
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Social Station with Pink Turns Blue out now on Young
and Cold Records, with the forthcoming album to be announced
later this year, The Grats Kids, I feel like a
proud uncle.
Speaker 12 (10:23):
If you can see the numbers will go to eleven.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
John Carpenter, the filmmaker and musician known as the Master
of Horror is killing it in his golden years, making
all types of John Carpentry albums over the past decade,
including reissues, reworkings, and remakes of the soundtracks that made
him a legend. Cruising with Mister Scratch is a bonus
cut off jc's recently released Lost Themes tenth Anniversary edition
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and its quintessential evil and synthesizer form. The cover of
the new vinyl features a photo of Carpenter's face enveloped
in smoke and looking as devilish as ever. God bless this.
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Man st.
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St eleven and eleven.
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And Len.
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What we do is, if we need that extra push
over the cliff, you know what we do, put it up.
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To a light labin exactly.
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Frequency we can opread easily to look at the old
seven stay your present, shut.
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Jun run und so we can pay b.
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Round the Leglet's go on the say I'm doing the
first begin.
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Everything you'll purge shake.
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The shame of the stakes tablet here a thousand thirty
years ago to get the pace.
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Going, so so I can.
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Try to get pa sing there.
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No wood and waves as well as the now again.
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Focus on go and shield, come and your pattern again.
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Who you're a part comes up in me A think.
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God, just shruck.
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Born, come pass.
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Get broken sense ruckus.
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You don't designs.
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It's a snob should say times sis and the best
to get anything.
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And I know, but I get shake the shame or
mistake un and must have happened.
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You tair a thouts tears.
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So go taking the pains and going the stomach so
I can try.
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To forget anything that I know the most and ways as.
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Five and now I cannot focus on.
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Go on and bresh, you take the shots. I'm doing
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my best.
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Then I guess say the same mistakes Exaun made.
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The must have happened.
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If they get the parents but not so at the time.
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Again, everything that I don't got any ways to find.
Speaker 23 (22:36):
Now and that I can't focus on, I'm going shot
down those sisters.
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I'm doing my best to forget.
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They shake the shame of the stakes sound made it
must have.
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Happened in.
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Food Go.
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The new single from Preoccupations is focused from their next album,
ill at Ease. I've loved this band since they were
Viet Cong and one of my former NPR colleagues gifted
me a band T shirt that I still wear to
this day. I'm psyched to hear their latest out May
ninth on Born Losers Before that four seconds Ago with
Bump the Lamp. The electronic duo consisting of Misha Mansor
(23:19):
and Jake Bowen is a spinoff of one of progressive
metal's most brutal and beautiful active bands, Periphery. Four seconds ago.
Sophomore release one thousand Needles is out February twenty first
on three Dot Recordings. Where is it three dot.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Either way?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
And we heard some spooky scraps from John Carpenter cruising
with Mister Scratch off the just released tenth anniversary edition
of Lost Themes. Nashville musician Adam Wright has written songs
for Garth Brooks, Brandy Clark, Alan Jackson, and lee Anne Womack.
Now we're stepping out of the writer's room and into
the crawl space.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
See what I did there?
Speaker 3 (23:59):
It's the Cashy Fur single from Wright's eighteen track collection,
divided into slices or signs in Adam's case.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Now with the riders down the stiegs, and that does
down with the dark and the dag and the bud
down where you re rights things in your b game rage.
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Down where you can hear the bloorboards cry down where
you're good and standing up if you.
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Drop down up died down in the pros, Down where
the needle gets down in.
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The door, down where to get awady.
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You deserve down whether you do me array down.
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In the prow.
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State down there nothing you will leave it through down
where the day I'll.
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Ever get through, Down and whenever.
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They out side oil face.
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Down where the language on all the bar, down where
the devil.
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Is haang in his heart and now't where the cotton
knos kiss your heart down in the prol.
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Now where the needle gets down, he's a nerve.
Speaker 24 (25:11):
Down where your get a wady you deserve down where
the reel.
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And ray down in the broll see down everything you
(25:50):
li around down.
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With you never one good song.
Speaker 24 (25:53):
Down you always knew you belong down in the proll me.
Speaker 5 (26:03):
Down where the needle gets down near the nord. Now
where you get a wady you deserve, down where the
ain't no me, Now.
Speaker 24 (26:15):
Where the needle gets down here there nour then ready
get anywhere down where there ain't no me, they ain't
raised down and the.
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Froz what's your name?
Speaker 12 (26:51):
Son? Eleven chaps a fare.
Speaker 23 (27:11):
Chut, her friend chucks a shot. I'm sorry, got your dough.
It's true, he's hug her friend.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
Chance not you.
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Touch her friend Chucks, go.
Speaker 23 (27:25):
Fir touch my friend Chucks for sure, I say, says
crits about I saw, then.
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Says drips, they're your bouts. You said such, just go
su shame for such a t. The father you love nothing,
he said, So just what I say for such a t.
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The fam you love nor jos the fire.
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Shut the fu chage for sure. I breding that show
to check.
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I'm not gonna go.
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No, my gosh, just my god, change good fun, Just
go God jugs the shore, the shore le petcho to
stop work?
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What child? What bad?
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What do?
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The search said, just precise shave precisely turn the value
love nothing.
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The sas sunest precise shave this, I say.
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To your value all nose.
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Your politician slaama, No, leave your politician slover Yah.
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By way of the Exploding Dickhead is the first single
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from McCluskey in two decades, and what a way to
announce a comeback anytime at the CAAC Recording sends me
a press release. It goes to the top of the pile.
The stalwart indie has long released music from some of
my all time faves, most famously label co founder Mike
Patton and his myriad projects. McCluskey's new album, The World
Is Still Here and So Are We is out May ninth,
(29:49):
with select dates in the UK to follow. I got
five more coming out of the break, including a winning
streak of female fronted rock and a closer from a
former independent minded guest that marks the end of an era.
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Garage rockers Niece lists themselves on their band campage as
a band, but the first tune off their forthcoming album,
Nie World gives off serious, gritty grunge rock vibes reminiscent
of nineties stalwarts Whole and Verruca Assault. I'm gonna go
make a sloppy joe Let's kick off four in a
row from female fronted rock bands as we inch closer
(31:43):
to eleven. On the Independent Minded podcast, this one's called lowlife.
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I give you, but I don't want to chill.
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Anyone.
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May Was it you?
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I guess you couldn't been.
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It was that me.
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All the girls who.
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Say dream bod you couldn't.
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Do chetches.
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And on the Lasty Chair.
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Word goody toors, gimber than.
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Be do your pressures?
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Do you hate what you say?
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Has it been the sny.
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Hollow?
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Who's your friend?
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Any scuse?
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Nothing's good?
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The kill me.
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And they never again.
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You'll think.
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You'll take it out away.
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Another bush.
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Is write day.
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Least go to eleven.
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I didn't I think if.
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I find you there.
Speaker 21 (35:12):
Now we're spending every day together.
Speaker 17 (35:18):
We brush short teeth and then you bashma hair. I'm
just trying to make you laugh. Well, your whole world
is changing. Back at home.
Speaker 28 (35:38):
We can stay in this hotel room, pretend there's nowhere
else to go. I think I'm a massa cast.
Speaker 6 (35:53):
I know you can harm me.
Speaker 21 (36:02):
Beside, I just do.
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Sleeping through the flight, I didn't set an alarm, and.
Speaker 6 (36:17):
I don't care.
Speaker 29 (36:20):
Laying in your eyes blackout color in snow daylight, and
staying out drinking beers.
Speaker 26 (36:35):
I love it when I make your friends live.
Speaker 25 (36:40):
I love how much they love you.
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And all the.
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Fun that you guys have.
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I just said, I just.
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Ercyer mouth, shut it up, fucking.
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Like it's like I do just do.
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Think I'm a massic case.
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I know you can hurt.
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Cause I'm like.
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I just do.
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Think I'm a mascase.
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I'm a joy do good result just.
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One two three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
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Eleven's the number for me, don't you seriously?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Eleven's the number for before.
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Oh go call the goodness.
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It's personal business, shall looks not the business.
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I'm seeing my face again.
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We go down that road again, maybe.
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Baby singing, do be.
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Calls pos business John, haven't let me.
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Pus business.
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Phone and go little Delicia dong bat. The hoods will
never feel under the thing.
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One of people fuck up.
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I'm seeing my face again.
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We go down that road again, maybe maybe.
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Sing and then you go Colin, no.
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Persson, no business John. Let me say all.
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Business twenty is back.
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In vision kicks right around nine ninety six. I ever
dream you honest, I'd band with me. Looka the witness, it's.
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Personal not business. Shot let litending.
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He's a he's or fella ever tend everything's all right?
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Or sure you're shut. I was on my life, break free,
another lynching in the streets, and but they like no
one could see no rock meaning justiny, and I could
still hear him be. I can't breathe. Eight minutes forty
six seconds of Paine, hundred years of shame, and I'm blaming.
Speaker 30 (42:22):
It all along dude, care norm callic.
Speaker 6 (42:26):
S my name you no more pad and love.
Speaker 17 (42:37):
Holy you're playing.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
Mister no.
Speaker 17 (42:50):
Regard to life. You kill my nuts and kids laugh
went rockets flying through the night. Yeah nothing, Master gets
her the hide wall.
Speaker 6 (43:03):
That's to thank God.
Speaker 17 (43:04):
I don't up this kind of sound.
Speaker 10 (43:08):
Freedom you get.
Speaker 6 (43:10):
Im suk a better start. Back to the Misto, Haad and.
Speaker 30 (43:22):
Brow worldly you may back, mister, I've happen, mask Stan,
I'm had, so.
Speaker 17 (43:47):
I go ahead and break free. Before that, you break me.
We're stores in my way, Smilien.
Speaker 4 (43:57):
Looking a poor head.
Speaker 17 (43:59):
And bray it freeze Ma did you break me? The persons?
My mother, Alloy, Lord cocking Cockain shut shut.
Speaker 6 (44:21):
You up?
Speaker 12 (44:38):
I had yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 17 (45:06):
Said oh my god, I said, oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (45:57):
That's the last internationale with Master, the new self released
single by the politically charged New York duo, one half
of which was a guest unindependent minded singer Delilah Pause
talk to me on episode seventy nine back in twenty eighteen,
the last episode I ever did while living and working
in the Rotten Apple, Sleigh Bells is back with want
to start a band? No Thanks, no offense, too much drama.
(46:22):
The new York duo returns with its first new release
in nearly four years. Out now on Mom and Pop.
We heard Girl Puppy with I Just Do exclamation point.
Becca harvey sophomore album Sweetness is out March twenty eighth
on Captured Tracks, and we kicked off along set of
Girl Power with Niice and Lowlife off the new album
(46:43):
Nie World that's also out March twenty eighth. If you
can see Yeah, the numbers will go to eleven. One
of my more memory recent interviews happened inside the Tampa,
Florida home of Michael Farentino, where the love and reverse
(47:05):
singer regaled me with tales of major label mishaps, do
wop origins and creative persistence. True to form, Michael, while
maintaining a day job and a relationship in a suburban neighborhood,
has never stopped answering the muses call, spending hours in
the basement with his guitars, his daw and the occasional
glass of wine. And thanks to his prolific nature, a
(47:26):
band I discovered in the middle nineteen nineties, would release
not one or two, but three new albums over the
past two years. Even though Michael can't stop making music.
He's moving forward and stopping. Love and Reverse two on
that for a second. The band's supposed swan song, keep Upright,
was just released. Here's Michael to give us an explanation
(47:47):
and tell us about the album track and possible predictor
of what's coming in twenty twenty five. Summer of Horror.
Speaker 31 (47:54):
So Summer of Horror that was actually written about a
very tumultuous and horrific divorce slash custody battle that I
went through at my first wife. We also musically wanted
to make a record that was, you know, kind of
an homage of sorts to all the rock music we
(48:15):
grew up with from the sixties through the nineties, t
Rex meets Kiss meets David Bowie. As far as this
being our final album, the truth is it's really not
our final album. The final album is really Amygdala, the
previous album that's the last thing we ever recorded together
(48:36):
as Love and Reverse. But this will be the final
release by Love and Reverse. We really can't get together
and perform live, so these are just, you know, albums
that we've been creating, and that's fine and all, but
I think we both want to kind of go off
into some different directions and don't want to be confined
to what people might expect from a love and Reverse album.
(49:00):
I also don't want to disappoint people that are expecting
a certain thing. Just like if I was to buy
a Zzy Top record, I want it to be zzy Top.
I don't want it to be zz Top doing electronic music.
But I do want to do way more out there
kind of things, and I plan on doing that, and
Andres and I have decided that if we do work together,
(49:20):
it'll be under some other name, and we certainly won't
be retreading the past. We'll be going forward into different
genres and you know, experimental ideas, and maybe some of
it will be very poppy.
Speaker 2 (49:32):
Who knows.
Speaker 12 (49:33):
We don't even know where we might go next.
Speaker 2 (49:43):
That's some want seazel and.
Speaker 21 (49:49):
Stress.
Speaker 6 (49:53):
So simp.
Speaker 22 (50:00):
No SAMs, so fufet now still stand I never really, I.
Speaker 19 (50:12):
Was just on my side, ling me did the side.
Speaker 14 (50:24):
Aside still tell one way, still tell.
Speaker 6 (50:39):
This one, a lovely way to.
Speaker 19 (50:46):
Sotn this one.
Speaker 6 (50:48):
Another way down.
Speaker 22 (51:06):
My siber O pra my feople was SUPI, but so.
Speaker 12 (51:16):
Was she lit.
Speaker 6 (51:19):
Submit surprise ringing was just my side.
Speaker 19 (51:31):
She duck Bay and the side.
Speaker 23 (51:43):
Still ten fall another way, so ten mother Wall.
Speaker 6 (51:54):
Then the way to.
Speaker 17 (52:10):
Come back min come back, come back.
Speaker 19 (52:21):
Big.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
Thanks to the artist who shared stories and music with
us on eleven. All music on Independent Mind that is
used via verbal consent of the artist, artist management, and
door artist promotional team. In other words, no what he said,
don't do it. You can check out this episode's full
playlist at baldfreak dot com, slash podcast and if you're
an indie artist or you represent one who wants to
(52:42):
be featured on Independent Minded, send your note and your
links to Ron at baldfreak dot com. Follow me online
at Baldfreak music and subscribe and leave a kind review
on Apple Podcasts and Spotify Hi Spotify Independent Mind it
always was and still remains a bald for music production
and me. I'm still Ron Scalzo.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
You're a national, You're a freak.
Speaker 10 (53:09):
I know, I don't, I know, I know, I know,
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