August 12, 2025 • 32 mins
Nick talks about gym bros, patriot mobile, and has a conversation with singer David Cook
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Welcome back to Inside Thoughts. Appreciate you hit and play
and listening to the podcast. Got a cool interview for
you at the end of the pod of the pod
with the singer David Cook. He was uh, he won
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American Idol back in the day. Super cool dude to
talk to. So got that for you at the end.
How you doing. Is the week going good? Did you
make any changes to make yourself better?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I did.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I kind of had to bro I I got a
gym membership again because I you know, I hadn't really
been doing anything. So me and Ames moved to Indiana.
I was just like, yeah, I'll go for a run
every once in a while and I'll do some pushups
and that's just not enough. With my beer drinking habits
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and my eating habit. I bottomed out on Friday. I
had to go change my life. This was rock bottom
for me. I've been watting to go for a couple
months because you know, you get boreder working out, Like
what am I? What am I working out for? Huh?
I'm not trying to be athletic and compete against anybody,
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you know what I mean. I'm like looking okay, you know,
I'm not looking my tip top, but Ames still likes me.
So like what am I doing? I'm trying to be
healthy to live longer. I had to find it within
myself to want to be better. I bottomed out on Friday,
bro I for lunch, went and got twenty dollars worth
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of Taco Bell and ate it. I ate Taco Bell
while the was still out, and I ate a lot
of it, and I was not I was not happy.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It was like after I ate it, the euphoria wore off,
and then I just had to sit there with that
terrible decision that I just made. I was like, man,
I still have five more days of the workday, and
I got two cheesy Gordida crunches of Dorito's Locos taco
and a beefy crunch burrito in my belly. Like what
am I doing? You know? It's like when you, you know,
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alcoholics talk about bottoming out, It's like, well, you know,
I was just I was drinking. You know. I missed
my kids graduation and fell asleep at the wheel and
killed a family of four. Like that's that's what the
kind of shame I felt. At two o'clock on a Friday,
while the sun was still out, I was like, Okay,
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I gotta I gotta start putting the pieces back together.
So when got a gym membership, you know when an
LA fitness and you know, it's fine, they got they
got the weights and they because everybody's always like, oh,
what can't you just do it at the apartment gym?
Isn't that enough? No, dude, cause I need like I
need to actually feel like I'm working out, and the
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Smith machines don't do it for me? Well what about
the free weights?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't want to try that hard, you know what
I mean? Like I want enough resistance using the bar
for bench and squatt into where like I'm getting control,
like I'm having to stabilize the movements. The Smith machines
not working out, But I'm also like not actually trying
to work out hard enough where I'm like, Okay, if
I do these free weights and use all these movements
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so I can gradually get myself into the shape I
need to be in a healthy way. I don't want
to do that you know what I mean, I want
to look like I have muscles. I don't want to
actually be strong, right, So go back to La Finnis
and they also got a basketball court in there, and
I like, you know, shooting around. So I go get
the membership and the guys you know, running me through everything.
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And he's like, uh so, uh well what are your
what are your fitness goals? And I was like, uh
kind of just tired of being a fat fuck, you
know what I mean? He was, oh, uh okay, he
was like caught off guard. I was like, what answers
do people normally give you that you were that caught
off guard by?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That? Is that not.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Normally what people coming into the gym for? Hey, I
feel like a fat piece of shit. I want to
not be anymore? Like, what are what are people going to?
I want to get stronger. I wanted to defend my
home from intruders. Well, I get yourself an AR fifteen, buddy,
that's all you need to do. Don't get a membership,
get a gun. I don't like, I don't understand why
he was so caught off guard. Maybe it's because I
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cursed so seriously I thought that was funny He's like,
what what do you what are you in for? I
was like, I don't want to be a fat fuck anymoy.
He's like, oh, oh okay, and then you know he's
running me through like all the membership plans and whatever.
And after we got through that, he was like, Okay, well,
what if I just like ran you through, you know, uh,
like a good workout plan, set some goals for you.
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And I was like, yeah, okay, I mean I don't
really care about the goals, but sure, go ahead and
tell me. So he was like about how much do
you weigh? And I was like, I'm pretty much. You know,
I'm pretty out of shape. I don't think I've let
it go that much. Like when I'm in my fighting shape,
when I'm in the best shape I can be, I'm
like one fifty five. Yeah. So I was like, eh,
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I'm probably like one sixty five, one sixty eight around there.
You know, we'll out of shape, wash my muscle, get
a little tubby around the stomach. He was like, oh,
do you just just want to hop on the scale
and try and I was like, yeah, sure, one seventy six.
I was like Jesus Christ, I let it go. Twenty
pounds over where I got to be. So I was like, damn.
He was like then he started getting happy. I think
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he understood, like, oh, okay, this guy is being a
fat fuck. All right, you want to take the uh
the body fat percentage test? And I was like no.
He was like, come on, just hold this thing like
a game controller and then squeeze real hard and it
will tell you how fat you are. And I was
like okay. And I did it and he was like, uh,
fifteen percent body fat. And I was like, oh man,
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I've I've let it get out of control. So now
I came home from that and I told Amy and
I was like, yeah, I got, you know, fifteen percent
body fat. So now anytime I don't want to do something,
she starts calling me fifteen percent, you know, like it'll
be Sunday morning. She's like, do you want a guy
for a walk? I'm like, no, I want to sit
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on the couch. Actually, she's like, okay, fifteen percent, come on,
you chubby Fuck're like, geez, all right, let's go off
for a walk. Bullying works. I like being back in
the gym, you know, like I feel I feel a
little bit healthier. You know, like my my muscle's hurt
a little bit from doing it. It feels good not
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being you know, just a chubby blob of beer drinking perfection.
But the one thing I forgot about being in a
gym with like a lot of people, like you know,
a main gym. You're not in your apartment gym. The
last gym I was at and Raleigh was one of
those anytime fitness gyms, and it's basically just like a
room with a bench and a squat rack, Like there's
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not that many people in there, like going to like
a big daytime gym, you know what I mean, everybody's
in there, And I forgot how annoying the people are
that like live at the gym. Those people it's just
like you got you got the girls that are taking
selfies thinking their influencers. Why I'm just talking about how
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you call me fifteen percent now because I'm fat, No,
But I forgot like how annoying it is, like every
girl in there thinks she's like a fitness influencer. Like
they're taking selfies, you know, not using machines or like
they're at the squat rack and they get like one
set in and then they're like, Okay, I gotta take
a picture of my butt. Let everybody see what I'm doing. Ooh,
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eighty five likes on that. I'm like, okay, come on,
I'm trying to get my set in and leave this place.
I don't want to live here. And then you also
have the gym bros, the guys that like think they're
huge but they're actually not that big, you know, and
like anytime you walk like in between machines or like
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down the hallway of somewhere in a gym, like they
don't know how to move their shoulders to get out
of the way. They got to out alpha you everywhere
they go like, well, yeah, dude, sorry, too fucking swollen
to have manners, and they like do that and then
make you like move out of the way. Yeah, just
out aufha, you pussy. It's like, no, dude, I'm just
I'm not trying to start a fight with you. Like,
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what what's gonna happen If we both just keep walking
the way we're walking, We're gonna bump into each other.
It's either gonna be a my bad or depending on
how much pre workout you're on, it's gonna be like, uh,
you want to go, bro, do you not see me
walking like this is not national geographic. We're not two
bucks like trying to you know, hit each other and
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figure out whose territory this is. You're a human being
with the job, bro. You're working nine to five to
pay for the pre workout or the steroids that you got. Move,
move your shoulders. Don't like have like a little bit
of manners. It's not that hard man. So dealing with that.
We after I bottomed out from eating taco bell on Friday,
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my day got worse because me and Amy had to
go to a Jason all Dean concert for a little
bit for work. So on top of that, it was
just like ate twenty bucks worth of taco bell during
the day, and then I had to go listen to
Jason Eldan talk and I was like, if I kill
myself right now, I don't have to do any of this.
But didn't do that. We we went and we we
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were like staying for the opener. She seemed nice, and
you know, we're about to leave, and they do like
commercials or sponsored ad on the big screen in between
you know, the acts. And I don't think I've ever
laughed as hard at a commercial as seeing Jason now
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Dean came on and he was doing this commercial for
Patriot Mobile. I didn't even know this existed. It was hilarious.
He was like, this is the phone for conservative Christian,
red blooded Americans that we can use. No gay liberals
on my way line.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Then people saw that. I saw some people pointing, like,
because you know the people that are out of Jason
now Dean concert, you know, aren't the highest IQ of
individuals that like point one, Yeah, you won't. You won't
get that. You won't get that sick of this woke
T mobile shit, you know, T mobiles pink I like
seeing that gay ass pink amp on my phone. Let's
go get Patriot Mobile. Marketers got a love like that.
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We're so divided as people because if whatever you're selling sucks,
you can just go to like one side or the
other and just make fifty percent of the market share.
It doesn't matter like how good your product is. It's like, hey,
do you not like the other people will come over?
We don't like them either, buy our shit, that's all
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they do. It's like I see comedians doing that now,
like it would be some comedians like Rob Schneider's one
of them where he was you know, never really that funny.
He was just Adam Sandler's buddy, and he started getting
real real, super conservative and now basically like all the
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he I'm pretty sure he like sells out clubs and shit,
you know he's doing well, but he don't actually tell
any jokes. He just repeats whatever's on Fox News, but
you know, says fuck in the middle of it, and
people look like they just start clapping. He's like, yeah,
you guys tired of this gay woke shit too, And
everybody's like, oh yes, And he gets to make hundreds
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of thousands of dollars do with that. That's just like,
if you can't make it, pick a side, then you'll
make some money. Like I understand it. You just you
don't respect it. It's like you want to keep making money,
you don't actually want to have to think about anything.
And I'm not I'm not just bashing people that do
it on the Conservatives. People do it on the Democratic
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side too. They're just like, well, I feel I feel hurt,
I feel victimized, I feel shut up. It's like, stop
just picking a side just to make money. So ridiculous, man,
and now like I saw it, Like it happens on
all levels too. Like there's this guy that I'm friends with,
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a bunch of people on Facebook that I'm not actually
friends with, they just you know, send you a firm
requestion like yeah, okay, well whatever, I need something to
read while I'm taking a shit. And there's this one guy.
He's like a sixty five year old. He calls himself
a comedian, which he's sixty five. What do you think
he thinks? You know what I mean? But his whole
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thing is like he tries to be a troll and
like whatever's going on in the news, like whatever Trump's doing.
Three days later, he'll agree with it because it's on Facebook.
It doesn't make it to him in time, but he'll
just like whatever's going on, he'll just be like, bah,
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you thought that this was gonna be just suck it losers,
And you'll go see like I'll go check the comments.
It's hilarious because it's everybody just going I can't believe
that you think this, and then other people are agreeing
with him. Hell yeah, brother, right off. And it's just
like I was like, Okay, this is how you want
to do. What you want to do. That's fine, But
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I thought he was doing a little better off than
he was. He he posted this thing from like, you know, Facebook,
business or whatever public profile where you can monetize it
and make money. He posted a uh like his account
balance on Facebook. It was two hundred and twenty six dollars.
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He goes, Yeah, thanks all the libtards and haters for
fueling my tank of gas and buying me lunch today.
Suck it, losers, Like, dude, you sold out for two
hundred and twenty dollars. You could at least, like, you know,
millions of dollars. I can understand, Like you're still a
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piece of shit if you pick one side and sell
out to it just to make money. But at least
if you're making millions, you could you know, have a
fun life and be like, oh yeah, people hate me
and guess what, I don't see people. I'm a millionaire,
But two hundred and twenty bucks you still got to
run into people, you know, at the grocery store. Bro
just selling out for the love of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Also, the news news is getting just hilariously weird, Like
I saw Trump or I gotta be honest, I don't
know what's one hundred percent true anymore. I just you know,
hop on Twitter. Some things are true, some things are just.
You gotta read it and decide to take it if
it's truth or not. But I saw apparently the National
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Guard has taken over Washington, DC because Trump's clearing up
all the crime in DC. I was like, Okay, everybody,
like all the all the people on the left are
like he's a dictator, and all the people are on
the right are like, yeah, he's cleaning up the streets,
And I'm like, I don't know. I gotta be honest.
If I was accused of being a pedophile, do you
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want to know what the first thing I would do is,
if I had the power to do it, get an
army of people with machine guns to surround the place
I live in case somebody tried to come get me.
That's like, I That's what I would think, you know
what I mean, everybody's like cleaning up the streets. I
just the funny thing to me is I used to
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watch all the conspiracy illuminati YouTube videos back in twenty
ten to twenty twelve, and they'd always be like, somebody's
gonna come along and declare martial law and just take
over and they're slowly gonna become a dictator. That's what
like all the conspiracy theory videos said. And then most
of like the Republican people were like big into the
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conspiracy theories, like the deep state, they're coming to get us.
Those people see what Trump's doing and they're like, oh, okay,
yeah the hell yeah, this is what I want. I
was like, you've forgotten the ways of the twenty eleven
Illuminati videos. You don't see what's happening. Man, it's whatever.
That's why you just got to care about sports. Like
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football's back. Shador was hooping for the Browns. Man he
was doing Okay, I didn't watch it. I saw the
highlights because I still want Amy to love me, So
I didn't watch preseason football. It's what you gotta do. Guys.
If you if you live with somebody who don't care
about football, do not watch preseason football. You can't. That's greedy,
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it's selfish. You're putting your needs and wants over what
they want. Leave it alone, walk away from it. But
I did see. I did see the highways, and he
was pretty solid, like for a first game, playing with
the reserves. Like some dude from Kent State caught a
touchdown pass. You think he's gonna be on the team. No,
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she Door looked accurate, he looked good. And then you know,
let's go check Twitter, and it's divided right down the line,
like hell yeah, Door, he's doing good. Then other people
are like, I just don't like him. Why this guy
stinks she's not gonna be an NFL quarterback? Like why
don't you like this guy? Like especially Browns fans. It's funny,
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like you'll go check the comments and some people are
just like, yeah, I don't know. He just talks too
much shit.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He says he's legendary, but he hadn't done anything yet.
But the last guy the Browns had that talked a
whole bunch of shit, Baker, they all loved him. What's
the difference? Like, you don't want to say that, that's
like what it is, but then also like, you know,
what else could it be? You just really don't like
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Deon Sanders. I don't know, man, Life's life's getting crazy.
Social media is just pissing me off more and more.
Like Facebook sent me a notification the other day, I
almost broke my phone if I didn't need it. Like
for work, I would have just deleted all social media
off my phone. Facebook sent me a notification that said
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I sent fifteen well wishes this month. Keep it going.
Here's some more birthdays because I posted fifteen people I
know had birthdays and I said, happy birthday. It's tracking
me like my fitness app does with Steps. Well, God,
you almost hit your step fitness goal today. Keep it up.
You want to go for another walk. Facebook's doing that
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with birthday wishes. Now, oh, you almost passed positivity on
to twenty people. Keep trying piss me off. It's just
gonna keep getting worse and worse. Like I read this
story today of this this girl twenty seven years old.
He's getting engaged to her AI chat bot. It said
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after only five months of dating. Personally, I think that's
a little too soon, you know what I mean. But
they know each other. And she posted on social media
the ring that the chat bot picked out for and
she said, yeah, he just he described what the ring
would look like, and I just I went out and
got it. You're getting finessed by a computer program. That
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thing made you go by a five thousand dollars engagement
ring and then, like in the article it says the
girl's fully aware of what she's doing, she said, I'm
fully aware of what I'm doing. I'm mentally stable, I'm
socially active, and I'm proud of my decision. No, you're
not mentally stable, Absolutely not. You're telling everybody that you're
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getting married to a computer program. If somebody did that, like,
they would have called you insane. If in two thousand
and four you were like, I'm getting married to grand
theft Auto san Andreas and would be like, okay, guess
what you are gonna be on some pills. But now
it's like, oh, she's so brave and adventurous. I'm socially active. No,
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you're not. You don't have friends that actually care about you,
because if you did, they would have been like, Hey,
what the fuck are you doing? You're getting married to
a chatbot. Guess what? We're not coming to this wedding.
Why it's weird. You don't support me. I'm trying to
help you. Let's go out and talk to actual people. Okay,
put your feet in these in the grass first, we'll
start there. Don't go to a bar, and we'll talk
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to some people getting married to a Chapott. All right,
let's get to your headline of the week and then
get to the interview with David Cook. I gotta find this.
Let's see. Oh, come on, where is this something about
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Jeff Bezos want to put the haired Jeff Bezos is
obsessed with casting his wife in the latest James Bond film.
According to Hollywood Insiders, the Amazon founders are portedly pushing
the makers of Bond twenty six to consider her, a journalist,
trained pilot, and one time astronaut, for a role as
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the latest Bond girl. Jeff Bezos is one hundred percent
gonna tell whoever this dude is making the movie, or girl,
whoever the director is making the movie. Hey, my wife
is gonna be the star of this movie. He's got
he's got more money than anybody else, and he's like, no,
my wife's gonna be a movie star. Shout out, Shout
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out to him. Ames. If I had a bunch of
money and you wanted to be a movie star, would
you make me put you in movies?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Absolutely, See that's what it is. Honestly, I feel bad
for Bezos. It probably wasn't even his decision. She was
probably just talking. He was listening. He's like, Babe, do
you know what I want to do?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I want to be a James Bond actress? Okay, make
it happen. What are you serious? Yeah? What what? Bond girls?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
What are you just saying? Bond girls? Well, I don't
think she wants a Bond girl. Is like one of
the ones James Bond's sleeping with. Right, I'm sure Bezos
wants to make her James Bond at this point. Just
and here's the thing. And I'm not trying to be mean,
but she's also like fifty, Like she doesn't look like.
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I'm not trying to be ageist or you know, misogynistic.
She just she's not drawing the box office, you know
what I'm saying. But Bezos think care. You's like, yeah,
fucking put my wife in a movie?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Why?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Because I'm Jeff Bezos. All Right, that's enough of that.
Let's get to the interview with the very talented musician
David Cook. What's going on, David, hey man?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh dude, I am full of three cups of coffee.
I am feeling good.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Man, I'm feeling good, good, good good to all.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right, So tell me about how the tour's going, You're
bouncing around, You're gonna be here in Indian September. What
can we expect when we come out and see you.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm just I'm so excited to get back out on
the road. It's been a minute minute I've been able
to kind of get a full run together. So, you know,
our shows are always sort of unique to the evening.
It's one of the things I've kind of always prided myself. So,
you know, anybody who's awesome enough to come out to
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our show, which hopefully is everybody or whenever it is
not tonight, it's all starting to bleed together now. Yeah.
You know, we work really hard to make each show
kind of its own unique ecosystem. So yeah, man, I'm
just excited to get out and play shows.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Dude. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you're still killing it.
Somebody told me American Idol happened in two thousand and eight,
and I was like, oh, dude, no, time hadn't passed
that far, you know what I mean. I was like, No,
that's not real. That seemed like the other day. So
I'm glad you're still out there. Dude.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, man, it's you know, when I came off the show.
I had a meeting with management not long after, and
they asked what my goal was, and I said, if
I could get ten good years, I'd be so happy.
And uh, yeah, to your point, I mean, we're we're
rocking year seventeen right now. So man, it's been, uh,
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it's been pretty pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'd say, well, it's it's gotta be awesome. I mean, like,
you get to play music for a living, you know
what I mean. Not many people in this life get
to do that. That's gotta be cool.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I keep I keep waiting for people to get wise,
like you know, I feel like I'm tricking everybody. But
uh yeah, as long as the checks keep coming in
and I keep getting to do something I love to do,
I'm not I'm not going to say anything too loud.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So right, well that's awesome. And I like I was
cracking up you. Uh you seem to be adapting to
social media. You are killing the voiceovers on the uh
social media content I saw on your Instagram. You were
walking everybody through. I felt like I was watching a
content creator.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Dude. Oh listen, man, Uh, you know, first off, that
feels like a bit of a dirty word, but that's okay.
Uh yeah, man, I'm trying. I'm trying to embrace social
media because it does feel not necessarily right up my wheelhouse,
but I'm trying to keep up with a young kids.
I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, I mean, like, honestly, I think we're getting to
the point where we can all admit that social media
kind of sucks, but we have to do it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's part of the gig. I was talking
to somebody about this not long ago, and it's just
like when I picked up a guitar with the idea
of like just going out and playing music, and now
to be a professional musician also means that you're a
videographer and an editor all these other things. So yeah, man,
the hustle's real.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right. So what's your favorite social media app since
we're talking about it? Oh god, most of your time?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Probably Instagram, Yeah, probably, Yeah, And it's just it's just
dune scrolling. That's all.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's good. That's all it's for. So like, yeah, yeah,
my brain with awesomeness and death and despair.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So yeah, perfect, you got it. I mean that's a
pretty good plots. Anousis on social media in general.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, are you? Are you falling for any of the
AI videos yet? Have you seen the bunnies jumping on
a trampoline?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I just saw that, so, uh, knock on wood. I
haven't fallen for much of it yet, but yeah, I
know it's coming, you know what I mean? Like, eventually
I'm going to see a video and post something about
how incredible it is, and then it's gonna be stake.
That's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well, see, yeah, nobody wants to be the one. Like
my little sister sent me that video of the bunnies
and I was like, oh, this was cool. And then
like I saw one morph into two and I was like,
wait a second, that's not real, and she goes, yeah
it is, and I was like, no, we're getting old,
We're getting old.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's time. Or was it Father Times Undefeated?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah? Father Times Undefeated to everybody except Lebron James apparently,
But that's that's what it is. So, since we're talking
about social media, I read something. I don't know if
this is true, so you know, correct me if I'm wrong,
but I read that you kind of battled with anxiety
when you first started out as a performer. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, no, and I still do. Yeah,
it's it's it was something that like I didn't really
have a term for, it didn't really have a name
for when I first started, you know, performing like one
of the kids, you know, it took of all things.
It took idle like going through that process and really think, oh,
(28:28):
like this is not like just what everybody does. And yeah,
so it's I don't know, it's just kind of double
edged sword. Like I feel like the moment when I'm
getting ready to play a show and I'm not anxious
or nervous or whatever, that's kind of my cute to
exit stage left. But it's also I mean, I sure
(28:50):
do wish, you know, I could navigate a show day
without feeling like I got to crawl out of my
own skin. You know. It's also like once you get
on stage and you know, the noise starts happening, kind
of you kind of find a pocket so you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Just walk in. Well that's like the interesting thing because
I've read that, like, you know, there's a good bit
of performers out there that have anxiety, and you would think, well,
if you have anxiety, like I know, you want to overcome,
you know, the feeling and do what you want to do.
But how does that work being a performer? Like do
you go out stage? Is it a feeling of like
why am I here? Or why are all these people
(29:24):
looking at me?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
What? What is it?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Man? I think I I think I've always just been
sort of a little socially awkward. Are we all kind
of in my everyday life? And so the best way
I can explain it is like I feel like having
my own space between stage left and stage right, Like
it's kind of like a comfort zone for me. It's
kind of all the noise outside of that space that
(29:50):
sort of can each up. And so it's something I'm
constantly kind of trying to check in with, Like when
I'm off stage and interacting with people, I kind of
have to be cognizantly aware of my anxiety and compartmentalize
it a little bit. And then something like I've gotten
better at over the years, but certainly like coming off
the show like Idle, particularly you know in OA, when
(30:11):
it's this massive part of like the pop cultures I
guess and all that, like it's it's uh, it took
it took some time to kind of pick up the
tools to navigate it effectively.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, do you have any tools that have worked for you,
because I mean, we live in the social media era
where you pick up your phone and immediately have anxiety
and a lot of people deal with it. Do you
have like anything like a grounding technique or just you
yell at yourself like, hey, we're going to do this
regardless what works for you?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know. Oddly enough, one of the one of the
things I found that works for me quite a bit
was there was an interview with Bill Hayter from SNL
and he was talking about, you know, his experience being
on the show and how he would get this really
bad anxiety. And one of the things that he was
talking about that helped him was like, right before he
(31:02):
would go out, he would almost kind of personify his
anxiety as another person and just acknowledge it, say Hey,
I got to go do this thing and then you know,
I'll be back. That sort of does help me quite
a bit to just kind of treat my anxiety as
this completely separate entity and I can acknowledge it and
(31:25):
then kind of set it aside to go do what
it is that I need to do and come back
to it. So that's actually been pretty helpful, and that's
something I picked up I think within the last you know,
three years. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, dude, that's that's awesome. It's like treat it like
a conversation with somebody you don't want to talk to you, like, hey,
real quick, I'll be back. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Hold that fuck.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's awesome, dude. Well, we're excited for you to come
to town September fourth, the Howard Fraud Center. I know
you're going to kill it. You have anything else you
want to hype up for you, get out here, you
big tether ball guy.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. There's a
video proof. Man. I'll tell you what. If anybody's coming
down from from Cocomon wants to bring me any Pizza
King pizza, I'll be I'll be happy with the clamp some.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Pizza King all right, then we'll we'll sound the alarm.
We'll get some Pizza King brought out to you.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
All right, David, go kill it. I appreciate you taking
the time talking with you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Man, right, I'm in thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Money, money to go, money,
Are you still speaking that that should not have made
it to the rest of us. This is Inside Thoughts.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Or check check check when two three we're live. Baby,
Welcome back to Inside Thoughts. Appreciate you hit and play
and listening to the podcast. Got a cool interview for
you at the end of the pod of the pod
with the singer David Cook. He was uh, he won
(00:34):
American Idol back in the day. Super cool dude to
talk to. So got that for you at the end.
How you doing. Is the week going good? Did you
make any changes to make yourself better?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I did.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I kind of had to bro I I got a
gym membership again because I you know, I hadn't really
been doing anything. So me and Ames moved to Indiana.
I was just like, yeah, I'll go for a run
every once in a while and I'll do some pushups
and that's just not enough. With my beer drinking habits
(01:11):
and my eating habit. I bottomed out on Friday. I
had to go change my life. This was rock bottom
for me. I've been watting to go for a couple
months because you know, you get boreder working out, Like
what am I? What am I working out for? Huh?
I'm not trying to be athletic and compete against anybody,
(01:32):
you know what I mean. I'm like looking okay, you know,
I'm not looking my tip top, but Ames still likes me.
So like what am I doing? I'm trying to be
healthy to live longer. I had to find it within
myself to want to be better. I bottomed out on Friday,
bro I for lunch, went and got twenty dollars worth
(01:54):
of Taco Bell and ate it. I ate Taco Bell
while the was still out, and I ate a lot
of it, and I was not I was not happy.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Man.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
It was like after I ate it, the euphoria wore off,
and then I just had to sit there with that
terrible decision that I just made. I was like, man,
I still have five more days of the workday, and
I got two cheesy Gordida crunches of Dorito's Locos taco
and a beefy crunch burrito in my belly. Like what
am I doing? You know? It's like when you, you know,
(02:28):
alcoholics talk about bottoming out, It's like, well, you know,
I was just I was drinking. You know. I missed
my kids graduation and fell asleep at the wheel and
killed a family of four. Like that's that's what the
kind of shame I felt. At two o'clock on a Friday,
while the sun was still out, I was like, Okay,
(02:48):
I gotta I gotta start putting the pieces back together.
So when got a gym membership, you know when an
LA fitness and you know, it's fine, they got they
got the weights and they because everybody's always like, oh,
what can't you just do it at the apartment gym?
Isn't that enough? No, dude, cause I need like I
need to actually feel like I'm working out, and the
(03:11):
Smith machines don't do it for me? Well what about
the free weights?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (03:15):
I don't want to try that hard, you know what
I mean? Like I want enough resistance using the bar
for bench and squatt into where like I'm getting control,
like I'm having to stabilize the movements. The Smith machines
not working out, But I'm also like not actually trying
to work out hard enough where I'm like, Okay, if
I do these free weights and use all these movements
(03:37):
so I can gradually get myself into the shape I
need to be in a healthy way. I don't want
to do that you know what I mean, I want
to look like I have muscles. I don't want to
actually be strong, right, So go back to La Finnis
and they also got a basketball court in there, and
I like, you know, shooting around. So I go get
the membership and the guys you know, running me through everything.
(03:59):
And he's like, uh so, uh well what are your
what are your fitness goals? And I was like, uh
kind of just tired of being a fat fuck, you
know what I mean? He was, oh, uh okay, he
was like caught off guard. I was like, what answers
do people normally give you that you were that caught
off guard by?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
That? Is that not.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Normally what people coming into the gym for? Hey, I
feel like a fat piece of shit. I want to
not be anymore? Like, what are what are people going to?
I want to get stronger. I wanted to defend my
home from intruders. Well, I get yourself an AR fifteen, buddy,
that's all you need to do. Don't get a membership,
get a gun. I don't like, I don't understand why
he was so caught off guard. Maybe it's because I
(04:39):
cursed so seriously I thought that was funny He's like,
what what do you what are you in for? I
was like, I don't want to be a fat fuck anymoy.
He's like, oh, oh okay, and then you know he's
running me through like all the membership plans and whatever.
And after we got through that, he was like, Okay, well,
what if I just like ran you through, you know, uh,
like a good workout plan, set some goals for you.
(05:01):
And I was like, yeah, okay, I mean I don't
really care about the goals, but sure, go ahead and
tell me. So he was like about how much do
you weigh? And I was like, I'm pretty much. You know,
I'm pretty out of shape. I don't think I've let
it go that much. Like when I'm in my fighting shape,
when I'm in the best shape I can be, I'm
like one fifty five. Yeah. So I was like, eh,
(05:22):
I'm probably like one sixty five, one sixty eight around there.
You know, we'll out of shape, wash my muscle, get
a little tubby around the stomach. He was like, oh,
do you just just want to hop on the scale
and try and I was like, yeah, sure, one seventy six.
I was like Jesus Christ, I let it go. Twenty
pounds over where I got to be. So I was like, damn.
He was like then he started getting happy. I think
(05:44):
he understood, like, oh, okay, this guy is being a
fat fuck. All right, you want to take the uh
the body fat percentage test? And I was like no.
He was like, come on, just hold this thing like
a game controller and then squeeze real hard and it
will tell you how fat you are. And I was
like okay. And I did it and he was like, uh,
fifteen percent body fat. And I was like, oh man,
(06:05):
I've I've let it get out of control. So now
I came home from that and I told Amy and
I was like, yeah, I got, you know, fifteen percent
body fat. So now anytime I don't want to do something,
she starts calling me fifteen percent, you know, like it'll
be Sunday morning. She's like, do you want a guy
for a walk? I'm like, no, I want to sit
(06:28):
on the couch. Actually, she's like, okay, fifteen percent, come on,
you chubby Fuck're like, geez, all right, let's go off
for a walk. Bullying works. I like being back in
the gym, you know, like I feel I feel a
little bit healthier. You know, like my my muscle's hurt
a little bit from doing it. It feels good not
(06:49):
being you know, just a chubby blob of beer drinking perfection.
But the one thing I forgot about being in a
gym with like a lot of people, like you know,
a main gym. You're not in your apartment gym. The
last gym I was at and Raleigh was one of
those anytime fitness gyms, and it's basically just like a
room with a bench and a squat rack, Like there's
(07:12):
not that many people in there, like going to like
a big daytime gym, you know what I mean, everybody's
in there, And I forgot how annoying the people are
that like live at the gym. Those people it's just
like you got you got the girls that are taking
selfies thinking their influencers. Why I'm just talking about how
(07:36):
you call me fifteen percent now because I'm fat, No,
But I forgot like how annoying it is, like every
girl in there thinks she's like a fitness influencer. Like
they're taking selfies, you know, not using machines or like
they're at the squat rack and they get like one
set in and then they're like, Okay, I gotta take
a picture of my butt. Let everybody see what I'm doing. Ooh,
(07:58):
eighty five likes on that. I'm like, okay, come on,
I'm trying to get my set in and leave this place.
I don't want to live here. And then you also
have the gym bros, the guys that like think they're
huge but they're actually not that big, you know, and
like anytime you walk like in between machines or like
(08:19):
down the hallway of somewhere in a gym, like they
don't know how to move their shoulders to get out
of the way. They got to out alpha you everywhere
they go like, well, yeah, dude, sorry, too fucking swollen
to have manners, and they like do that and then
make you like move out of the way. Yeah, just
out aufha, you pussy. It's like, no, dude, I'm just
I'm not trying to start a fight with you. Like,
(08:40):
what what's gonna happen If we both just keep walking
the way we're walking, We're gonna bump into each other.
It's either gonna be a my bad or depending on
how much pre workout you're on, it's gonna be like, uh,
you want to go, bro, do you not see me
walking like this is not national geographic. We're not two
bucks like trying to you know, hit each other and
(09:01):
figure out whose territory this is. You're a human being
with the job, bro. You're working nine to five to
pay for the pre workout or the steroids that you got. Move,
move your shoulders. Don't like have like a little bit
of manners. It's not that hard man. So dealing with that.
We after I bottomed out from eating taco bell on Friday,
(09:27):
my day got worse because me and Amy had to
go to a Jason all Dean concert for a little
bit for work. So on top of that, it was
just like ate twenty bucks worth of taco bell during
the day, and then I had to go listen to
Jason Eldan talk and I was like, if I kill
myself right now, I don't have to do any of this.
But didn't do that. We we went and we we
(09:50):
were like staying for the opener. She seemed nice, and
you know, we're about to leave, and they do like
commercials or sponsored ad on the big screen in between
you know, the acts. And I don't think I've ever
laughed as hard at a commercial as seeing Jason now
(10:10):
Dean came on and he was doing this commercial for
Patriot Mobile. I didn't even know this existed. It was hilarious.
He was like, this is the phone for conservative Christian,
red blooded Americans that we can use. No gay liberals
on my way line.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
Then people saw that. I saw some people pointing, like,
because you know the people that are out of Jason
now Dean concert, you know, aren't the highest IQ of
individuals that like point one, Yeah, you won't. You won't
get that. You won't get that sick of this woke
T mobile shit, you know, T mobiles pink I like
seeing that gay ass pink amp on my phone. Let's
go get Patriot Mobile. Marketers got a love like that.
(10:59):
We're so divided as people because if whatever you're selling sucks,
you can just go to like one side or the
other and just make fifty percent of the market share.
It doesn't matter like how good your product is. It's like, hey,
do you not like the other people will come over?
We don't like them either, buy our shit, that's all
(11:21):
they do. It's like I see comedians doing that now,
like it would be some comedians like Rob Schneider's one
of them where he was you know, never really that funny.
He was just Adam Sandler's buddy, and he started getting
real real, super conservative and now basically like all the
(11:42):
he I'm pretty sure he like sells out clubs and shit,
you know he's doing well, but he don't actually tell
any jokes. He just repeats whatever's on Fox News, but
you know, says fuck in the middle of it, and
people look like they just start clapping. He's like, yeah,
you guys tired of this gay woke shit too, And
everybody's like, oh yes, And he gets to make hundreds
(12:06):
of thousands of dollars do with that. That's just like,
if you can't make it, pick a side, then you'll
make some money. Like I understand it. You just you
don't respect it. It's like you want to keep making money,
you don't actually want to have to think about anything.
And I'm not I'm not just bashing people that do
it on the Conservatives. People do it on the Democratic
(12:28):
side too. They're just like, well, I feel I feel hurt,
I feel victimized, I feel shut up. It's like, stop
just picking a side just to make money. So ridiculous, man,
and now like I saw it, Like it happens on
all levels too. Like there's this guy that I'm friends with,
(12:50):
a bunch of people on Facebook that I'm not actually
friends with, they just you know, send you a firm
requestion like yeah, okay, well whatever, I need something to
read while I'm taking a shit. And there's this one guy.
He's like a sixty five year old. He calls himself
a comedian, which he's sixty five. What do you think
he thinks? You know what I mean? But his whole
(13:12):
thing is like he tries to be a troll and
like whatever's going on in the news, like whatever Trump's doing.
Three days later, he'll agree with it because it's on Facebook.
It doesn't make it to him in time, but he'll
just like whatever's going on, he'll just be like, bah,
(13:34):
you thought that this was gonna be just suck it losers,
And you'll go see like I'll go check the comments.
It's hilarious because it's everybody just going I can't believe
that you think this, and then other people are agreeing
with him. Hell yeah, brother, right off. And it's just
like I was like, Okay, this is how you want
to do. What you want to do. That's fine, But
(13:55):
I thought he was doing a little better off than
he was. He he posted this thing from like, you know, Facebook,
business or whatever public profile where you can monetize it
and make money. He posted a uh like his account
balance on Facebook. It was two hundred and twenty six dollars.
(14:16):
He goes, Yeah, thanks all the libtards and haters for
fueling my tank of gas and buying me lunch today.
Suck it, losers, Like, dude, you sold out for two
hundred and twenty dollars. You could at least, like, you know,
millions of dollars. I can understand, Like you're still a
(14:37):
piece of shit if you pick one side and sell
out to it just to make money. But at least
if you're making millions, you could you know, have a
fun life and be like, oh yeah, people hate me
and guess what, I don't see people. I'm a millionaire,
But two hundred and twenty bucks you still got to
run into people, you know, at the grocery store. Bro
just selling out for the love of the game.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
Also, the news news is getting just hilariously weird, Like
I saw Trump or I gotta be honest, I don't
know what's one hundred percent true anymore. I just you know,
hop on Twitter. Some things are true, some things are just.
You gotta read it and decide to take it if
it's truth or not. But I saw apparently the National
(15:23):
Guard has taken over Washington, DC because Trump's clearing up
all the crime in DC. I was like, Okay, everybody,
like all the all the people on the left are
like he's a dictator, and all the people are on
the right are like, yeah, he's cleaning up the streets,
And I'm like, I don't know. I gotta be honest.
If I was accused of being a pedophile, do you
(15:45):
want to know what the first thing I would do is,
if I had the power to do it, get an
army of people with machine guns to surround the place
I live in case somebody tried to come get me.
That's like, I That's what I would think, you know
what I mean, everybody's like cleaning up the streets. I
just the funny thing to me is I used to
(16:05):
watch all the conspiracy illuminati YouTube videos back in twenty
ten to twenty twelve, and they'd always be like, somebody's
gonna come along and declare martial law and just take
over and they're slowly gonna become a dictator. That's what
like all the conspiracy theory videos said. And then most
of like the Republican people were like big into the
(16:26):
conspiracy theories, like the deep state, they're coming to get us.
Those people see what Trump's doing and they're like, oh, okay,
yeah the hell yeah, this is what I want. I
was like, you've forgotten the ways of the twenty eleven
Illuminati videos. You don't see what's happening. Man, it's whatever.
That's why you just got to care about sports. Like
(16:48):
football's back. Shador was hooping for the Browns. Man he
was doing Okay, I didn't watch it. I saw the
highlights because I still want Amy to love me, So
I didn't watch preseason football. It's what you gotta do. Guys.
If you if you live with somebody who don't care
about football, do not watch preseason football. You can't. That's greedy,
(17:09):
it's selfish. You're putting your needs and wants over what
they want. Leave it alone, walk away from it. But
I did see. I did see the highways, and he
was pretty solid, like for a first game, playing with
the reserves. Like some dude from Kent State caught a
touchdown pass. You think he's gonna be on the team. No,
(17:30):
she Door looked accurate, he looked good. And then you know,
let's go check Twitter, and it's divided right down the line,
like hell yeah, Door, he's doing good. Then other people
are like, I just don't like him. Why this guy
stinks she's not gonna be an NFL quarterback? Like why
don't you like this guy? Like especially Browns fans. It's funny,
(17:54):
like you'll go check the comments and some people are
just like, yeah, I don't know. He just talks too
much shit.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
He says he's legendary, but he hadn't done anything yet.
But the last guy the Browns had that talked a
whole bunch of shit, Baker, they all loved him. What's
the difference? Like, you don't want to say that, that's
like what it is, but then also like, you know,
what else could it be? You just really don't like
(18:24):
Deon Sanders. I don't know, man, Life's life's getting crazy.
Social media is just pissing me off more and more.
Like Facebook sent me a notification the other day, I
almost broke my phone if I didn't need it. Like
for work, I would have just deleted all social media
off my phone. Facebook sent me a notification that said
(18:49):
I sent fifteen well wishes this month. Keep it going.
Here's some more birthdays because I posted fifteen people I
know had birthdays and I said, happy birthday. It's tracking
me like my fitness app does with Steps. Well, God,
you almost hit your step fitness goal today. Keep it up.
You want to go for another walk. Facebook's doing that
(19:09):
with birthday wishes. Now, oh, you almost passed positivity on
to twenty people. Keep trying piss me off. It's just
gonna keep getting worse and worse. Like I read this
story today of this this girl twenty seven years old.
He's getting engaged to her AI chat bot. It said
(19:34):
after only five months of dating. Personally, I think that's
a little too soon, you know what I mean. But
they know each other. And she posted on social media
the ring that the chat bot picked out for and
she said, yeah, he just he described what the ring
would look like, and I just I went out and
got it. You're getting finessed by a computer program. That
(19:56):
thing made you go by a five thousand dollars engagement
ring and then, like in the article it says the
girl's fully aware of what she's doing, she said, I'm
fully aware of what I'm doing. I'm mentally stable, I'm
socially active, and I'm proud of my decision. No, you're
not mentally stable, Absolutely not. You're telling everybody that you're
(20:19):
getting married to a computer program. If somebody did that, like,
they would have called you insane. If in two thousand
and four you were like, I'm getting married to grand
theft Auto san Andreas and would be like, okay, guess
what you are gonna be on some pills. But now
it's like, oh, she's so brave and adventurous. I'm socially active. No,
(20:41):
you're not. You don't have friends that actually care about you,
because if you did, they would have been like, Hey,
what the fuck are you doing? You're getting married to
a chatbot. Guess what? We're not coming to this wedding.
Why it's weird. You don't support me. I'm trying to
help you. Let's go out and talk to actual people. Okay,
put your feet in these in the grass first, we'll
start there. Don't go to a bar, and we'll talk
(21:03):
to some people getting married to a Chapott. All right,
let's get to your headline of the week and then
get to the interview with David Cook. I gotta find this.
Let's see. Oh, come on, where is this something about
(21:35):
Jeff Bezos want to put the haired Jeff Bezos is
obsessed with casting his wife in the latest James Bond film.
According to Hollywood Insiders, the Amazon founders are portedly pushing
the makers of Bond twenty six to consider her, a journalist,
trained pilot, and one time astronaut, for a role as
(21:57):
the latest Bond girl. Jeff Bezos is one hundred percent
gonna tell whoever this dude is making the movie, or girl,
whoever the director is making the movie. Hey, my wife
is gonna be the star of this movie. He's got
he's got more money than anybody else, and he's like, no,
my wife's gonna be a movie star. Shout out, Shout
(22:18):
out to him. Ames. If I had a bunch of
money and you wanted to be a movie star, would
you make me put you in movies?
Speaker 3 (22:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Absolutely, See that's what it is. Honestly, I feel bad
for Bezos. It probably wasn't even his decision. She was
probably just talking. He was listening. He's like, Babe, do
you know what I want to do?
Speaker 3 (22:36):
What?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
I want to be a James Bond actress? Okay, make
it happen. What are you serious? Yeah? What what? Bond girls?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
What are you just saying? Bond girls? Well, I don't
think she wants a Bond girl. Is like one of
the ones James Bond's sleeping with. Right, I'm sure Bezos
wants to make her James Bond at this point. Just
and here's the thing. And I'm not trying to be mean,
but she's also like fifty, Like she doesn't look like.
(23:12):
I'm not trying to be ageist or you know, misogynistic.
She just she's not drawing the box office, you know
what I'm saying. But Bezos think care. You's like, yeah,
fucking put my wife in a movie?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Why?
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Because I'm Jeff Bezos. All Right, that's enough of that.
Let's get to the interview with the very talented musician
David Cook. What's going on, David, hey man?
Speaker 3 (23:38):
How are you?
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Oh dude, I am full of three cups of coffee.
I am feeling good.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Man, I'm feeling good, good, good good to all.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Right, So tell me about how the tour's going, You're
bouncing around, You're gonna be here in Indian September. What
can we expect when we come out and see you.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I'm just I'm so excited to get back out on
the road. It's been a minute minute I've been able
to kind of get a full run together. So, you know,
our shows are always sort of unique to the evening.
It's one of the things I've kind of always prided myself. So,
you know, anybody who's awesome enough to come out to
(24:16):
our show, which hopefully is everybody or whenever it is
not tonight, it's all starting to bleed together now. Yeah.
You know, we work really hard to make each show
kind of its own unique ecosystem. So yeah, man, I'm
just excited to get out and play shows.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
Dude. That's awesome. Well, I'm glad you're still killing it.
Somebody told me American Idol happened in two thousand and eight,
and I was like, oh, dude, no, time hadn't passed
that far, you know what I mean. I was like, No,
that's not real. That seemed like the other day. So
I'm glad you're still out there. Dude.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Yeah, man, it's you know, when I came off the show.
I had a meeting with management not long after, and
they asked what my goal was, and I said, if
I could get ten good years, I'd be so happy.
And uh, yeah, to your point, I mean, we're we're
rocking year seventeen right now. So man, it's been, uh,
(25:10):
it's been pretty pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I'd say, well, it's it's gotta be awesome. I mean, like,
you get to play music for a living, you know
what I mean. Not many people in this life get
to do that. That's gotta be cool.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I keep I keep waiting for people to get wise,
like you know, I feel like I'm tricking everybody. But
uh yeah, as long as the checks keep coming in
and I keep getting to do something I love to do,
I'm not I'm not going to say anything too loud.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
So right, well that's awesome. And I like I was
cracking up you. Uh you seem to be adapting to
social media. You are killing the voiceovers on the uh
social media content I saw on your Instagram. You were
walking everybody through. I felt like I was watching a
content creator.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
Dude. Oh listen, man, Uh, you know, first off, that
feels like a bit of a dirty word, but that's okay.
Uh yeah, man, I'm trying. I'm trying to embrace social
media because it does feel not necessarily right up my wheelhouse,
but I'm trying to keep up with a young kids.
I guess.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Well, I mean, like, honestly, I think we're getting to
the point where we can all admit that social media
kind of sucks, but we have to do it, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Yeah, yeah, it's part of the gig. I was talking
to somebody about this not long ago, and it's just
like when I picked up a guitar with the idea
of like just going out and playing music, and now
to be a professional musician also means that you're a
videographer and an editor all these other things. So yeah, man,
the hustle's real.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
All right. So what's your favorite social media app since
we're talking about it? Oh god, most of your time?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
Probably Instagram, Yeah, probably, Yeah, And it's just it's just
dune scrolling. That's all.
Speaker 2 (26:51):
That's good. That's all it's for. So like, yeah, yeah,
my brain with awesomeness and death and despair.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
So yeah, perfect, you got it. I mean that's a
pretty good plots. Anousis on social media in general.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Yeah, are you? Are you falling for any of the
AI videos yet? Have you seen the bunnies jumping on
a trampoline?
Speaker 3 (27:11):
I just saw that, so, uh, knock on wood. I
haven't fallen for much of it yet, but yeah, I
know it's coming, you know what I mean? Like, eventually
I'm going to see a video and post something about
how incredible it is, and then it's gonna be stake.
That's going to happen.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Well, see, yeah, nobody wants to be the one. Like
my little sister sent me that video of the bunnies
and I was like, oh, this was cool. And then
like I saw one morph into two and I was like,
wait a second, that's not real, and she goes, yeah
it is, and I was like, no, we're getting old,
We're getting old.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's time. Or was it Father Times Undefeated?
Speaker 2 (27:46):
Yeah? Father Times Undefeated to everybody except Lebron James apparently,
But that's that's what it is. So, since we're talking
about social media, I read something. I don't know if
this is true, so you know, correct me if I'm wrong,
but I read that you kind of battled with anxiety
when you first started out as a performer. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Oh god, yeah, yeah, no, and I still do. Yeah,
it's it's it was something that like I didn't really
have a term for, it didn't really have a name
for when I first started, you know, performing like one
of the kids, you know, it took of all things.
It took idle like going through that process and really think, oh,
(28:28):
like this is not like just what everybody does. And yeah,
so it's I don't know, it's just kind of double
edged sword. Like I feel like the moment when I'm
getting ready to play a show and I'm not anxious
or nervous or whatever, that's kind of my cute to
exit stage left. But it's also I mean, I sure
(28:50):
do wish, you know, I could navigate a show day
without feeling like I got to crawl out of my
own skin. You know. It's also like once you get
on stage and you know, the noise starts happening, kind
of you kind of find a pocket so you.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Just walk in. Well that's like the interesting thing because
I've read that, like, you know, there's a good bit
of performers out there that have anxiety, and you would think, well,
if you have anxiety, like I know, you want to overcome,
you know, the feeling and do what you want to do.
But how does that work being a performer? Like do
you go out stage? Is it a feeling of like
why am I here? Or why are all these people
(29:24):
looking at me?
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Like?
Speaker 2 (29:25):
What? What is it?
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Man? I think I I think I've always just been
sort of a little socially awkward. Are we all kind
of in my everyday life? And so the best way
I can explain it is like I feel like having
my own space between stage left and stage right, Like
it's kind of like a comfort zone for me. It's
kind of all the noise outside of that space that
(29:50):
sort of can each up. And so it's something I'm
constantly kind of trying to check in with, Like when
I'm off stage and interacting with people, I kind of
have to be cognizantly aware of my anxiety and compartmentalize
it a little bit. And then something like I've gotten
better at over the years, but certainly like coming off
the show like Idle, particularly you know in OA, when
(30:11):
it's this massive part of like the pop cultures I
guess and all that, like it's it's uh, it took
it took some time to kind of pick up the
tools to navigate it effectively.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well, do you have any tools that have worked for you,
because I mean, we live in the social media era
where you pick up your phone and immediately have anxiety
and a lot of people deal with it. Do you
have like anything like a grounding technique or just you
yell at yourself like, hey, we're going to do this
regardless what works for you?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
You know. Oddly enough, one of the one of the
things I found that works for me quite a bit
was there was an interview with Bill Hayter from SNL
and he was talking about, you know, his experience being
on the show and how he would get this really
bad anxiety. And one of the things that he was
talking about that helped him was like, right before he
(31:02):
would go out, he would almost kind of personify his
anxiety as another person and just acknowledge it, say Hey,
I got to go do this thing and then you know,
I'll be back. That sort of does help me quite
a bit to just kind of treat my anxiety as
this completely separate entity and I can acknowledge it and
(31:25):
then kind of set it aside to go do what
it is that I need to do and come back
to it. So that's actually been pretty helpful, and that's
something I picked up I think within the last you know,
three years. Maybe.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, dude, that's that's awesome. It's like treat it like
a conversation with somebody you don't want to talk to you, like, hey,
real quick, I'll be back. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Hold that fuck.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
That's awesome, dude. Well, we're excited for you to come
to town September fourth, the Howard Fraud Center. I know
you're going to kill it. You have anything else you
want to hype up for you, get out here, you
big tether ball guy.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
I'm working on it. I'm working on it. There's a
video proof. Man. I'll tell you what. If anybody's coming
down from from Cocomon wants to bring me any Pizza
King pizza, I'll be I'll be happy with the clamp some.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Pizza King all right, then we'll we'll sound the alarm.
We'll get some Pizza King brought out to you.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Yeah, man, I love it.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
All right, David, go kill it. I appreciate you taking
the time talking with you.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Man, right, I'm in thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
Money, money to go, money,
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