November 20, 2025 • 30 mins
Nick talks about thanksgiving, AI cheating and, has a conversation with singer/songer writer Matt Cooper
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Bill speaking that that should not have made it to
the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is Inside Thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jordan Jeck jack Check, welcome back. Thank you for pressing
playing listening to Inside Thoughts. Hope you're doing good. I
got a cool interview for you at the end of
the podcast with singer songwriter Matt Cooper. Him and his
guitarist Jordan Smith came by. There were super cool. We
chopped it up. You get to hear about it at
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the end. Make sure you go stream all of his
music in all that good stuff. I hope you're doing good, man,
I hope you're doing good. You don't good, You're doing
all right, You're doing You're doing fine. Gotta got Thanksgiving
coming up. You're gonna you're gonna hang with the fam
the familia. You're gonna go do that. You're gonna have
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a good time. Read this thing, Uh, that's all them
the news today. Read this thing that said people are
coming up with conversation strategies to avoid awkward situations at
Thanksgiving dinner. They have to come up with a game plan.
What do you shoudre Sanders trying to beat the raiders?
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Just go talk to your family dude, what are we doing.
I gotta be honest, so you'll you'll have a good
time at Thanksgiving dinner as long as the food in
your house is good. If you've got some shitty food,
you're gonna be in for a bad time. Cause if
the food's good, be all right. Like everybody's just talking
about the food. Everybody's in a good mood, like, uh
(01:40):
oh yeah, you you deep pride. This turkey that's so good. Hey,
who brought the cranberry sauce? Delicious? You got that from
Public's No, everybody's in good mood. Nobody's talking about anything serious.
If you got some bad food though, dry ham, dry turkey,
somebody fucked up the stuffing. Guess what your aunt's gonna
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be sitting across the table, going, so when are you
getting married?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
When's that happening? Your drunk uncle starts getting all riled up.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He was like, I don't care if Trump is on
that list.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I bet you Bill Clinton fucked twice as many kids
as he did. That's what's gonna go on if you
don't have good food at your house. So make sure
everybody's in the kitchen, focus and ready to go. Otherwise,
you are gonna have to think about some some conversational
strategies to avoid the awkward situations. Gonna have to be like, oh, well,
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time to go. We gotta yep, dad's talking about Appstein again.
We gotta get out here. Yeah, we know. Bill Gates
and Bill Quinton were the only ones that were there.
We know, just make sure the food's good. Man. Me
and me and Amy aren't doing anything for Thanksgiving. We
gotta We got a wild travel schedule happening around Christmas,
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and we were like, hey, we'll just we'll just do
nothing for Thanksgiving. Might get some taco bell, might get
some Chinese, might order a pizza, get wild with it.
Ames was she was saying like, oh, you know, we could,
we could cook Thanksgiving. I was like, you know, I'm stupid.
There's no like I have not advanced to the tier
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of being able to cook a turkey, you know what
I mean. That's not in my wheelhouse. I got bagel bites,
I got cereal, and there's like chicken and rice. That's
about all I can do. That's where my skills are.
Trying to go and cook a turkey or a ham
for Thanksgiving, that's like superstar Lebron level kitchen ability. Okay.
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If you don't have that in you stay towards the sides. Okay,
make the mashed potatoes, not mac and cheese, not top
tier sides. Okay, you're not ready for that. You gotta
start on dessert. Then work your way up to the sides,
the low, low risk sides, then you go to high
risk side, and then you go up to the main dish. Okay.
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You got to run the Thanksgiving kitchen, the Christmas kitchen
like a successful sports franchise, Okay, And there has to
be a plan of succession where everybody knows what their
job is. God forbid your grandma or grandpa, whoever does
the main dish they pass away, God forbid one of
them goes. It's gonna happen, But everybody needs to know
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in the event that that goes down, which aunt, which uncle,
who's stepping up, huh, what are we doing, who's taking
the big time, who's doing that? Because if not, you're
gonna have a Cleveland Browns type organization where you're just
throwing family members into that coveted quarterback turkey spot. Okay,
you're gonna try and see what's going on and it's
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not gonna work. That's when you start getting into politics talk,
because you got Dyn Gabriel out there throwing ducks and
making dry ham. Now everybody's pissed at the table. Okay,
your cousin Johnny Manziel's out snorting coke before Thanksgiving. He's
too hungover to make the turkey. Now we're talking about
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trans people at the table. I'm sorry, that was stupid.
I just like min a goofy moves. I've had some
weird interactions the last week, Like I just went to
the doctor's office this week or today, not this week?
Today is this week? Went to the doctors this week
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because you know, Amy's been telling me to go to
the doctor. I don't like going to the doctor because
you go and they go, hey, do you smoke or
drink or do anything fun? And you go yep, and
they go okay, stop that, and you go not yet.
They go all right, well when you're forty, shit's gonna suck.
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And I go, all right, that's a couple tomorrows away.
I'll worry about that when I get there. But you know,
diabetes runs in my family on my mom's side. So
Amy was like, Babe, go go check on it, go
do it all right. I was like, okay, I'll do it.
Because she loves me and she wants me to be
around for a long time, so I was like, all right,
I'll go. So I get in there, telling the lady
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like all the stuff, not the wady, the doctor, the
lady doctor. I was telling her all the stuff like
blah blah blah. She's asking me questions, and then I
had to get some blood tests done, so she was
gonna have the nurse come in and do the blood.
But she was like one last question. You know, she's
checking my hearing and all that stuff. She goes, what's
your ethnic background? And I was like Irish Italian? Why.
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She goes, hmm, you have Asian features. It's like, does
that mean I have diabetes? She goes, no, the nurse
will be in a second to take your blood. I
was like, well, what was the point of that. You're
just saying I have Asian features? What does that mean?
You're a doctor? I don't like. That's been that's stuck
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with me all day. Like of course, I called Amy
up after because she wanted to know how it went.
She was like, what the doctors say doing it, and
I was like, she said, I have Asian features. She
was like, no, you fucking idiot. What does she say
about the diabetes? And I don't know, I'll find out
in a couple of days. We'll see what happens. But
that was just like you just walk in no medical relevancy.
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Looked it up on chat GPT. I was like, hey,
do Asian people are they more prone to get diabetes?
Nothing came up, you know, because I thought maybe something was,
you know, like ethnically medically relevant or something like that,
but no, she was just looking. She was like, you
got a small dick. I was like, thank you. Wait
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all right, you had to go to med school to
figure that out.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, I had to pull the magnifying glass out. They
will let you hold one of those. You go get
your rib knee.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm sorry. So that was ridiculous. And then last week,
like I work in radio, so you know, we get
paid as much as school teachers. The way we make
money is like we go meet with advertisers for possible endorsements,
and they have to make sense. And also like, if
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you're half a good human being, you're not just going
to endorse whatever, right, Like you don't want to endorse
some bullshit and then tell people to go do it
and then they like experience some trouble with whatever they did,
or you know, they basically just got ripped off because
then that's your name, so you want to go check
it out see if it's legit. I will say though,
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there was only one time I took an endorsement where
I was like, yeah, this is this is some bullshit,
but I needed the money. It was for boost Mobile,
and I was like, I'll make a video of me
endorsing boost Mobile, and the people that actually know me
the way I do this, they'll know that I don't
believe it, but I gotta sell it like I do.
(09:08):
I was like telling people to go buy boost Mobile.
I got so many text messages and people going, you're
using boost Mobile. That is too poor of a phone
for me to tech. I'm not doing that. I was like, yeah,
it's stuff. By the way, the service was terrible, couldn't
get couldn't get signal anywhere. So that was That was
the one and the only time I've like endorsed something
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where I was like, yeah, I don't believe in this,
but I need the money, so yeah, I'm a bad person.
What are you gonna do? But this this endorsement that
came around, haven't gotten it yet. I don't know if
it's gonna happen. Because somebody approached me. One of our
salespeople was like, hey, I don't uh, I don't want
to offend you, but just wanted to, you know, offer
(09:52):
this endorsement opportunity to you. And I was like, well,
that's the most interesting way salesperson's ever pitched that to me.
I go what is it? And they're like, it's for
a hair restoration clinic. And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, cool,
I'll go do that way. You don't it's it's fine
if you're bald. I was like, yeah, I know. She
was like, no, no, it's okay if you're bald. I
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was like, I get it. I know I'm bald. It's fine.
I'll go talk to the hair restoration people like I
like being bald, I don't want hair like I'll just
tell them like, hey, well pitch it this way. I
can say, hey, I remember the anxiety of seeing your
hair fall out into the shower and thinking that you're
never going to have a girl talk to you ever again.
I get it, but I don't want my hair back.
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I got lucky, I look better bald. So I was like, yeah,
I'll just pitch it to him that way. And I
was talking. I was talking with this place is like
media buy people, and they're like, well, we think, you know,
we've never had somebody do that, so we just think
it'd be better for you to come in and just
see if we can get your hair back. You know,
you can shave it if we grow it back, but
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just just go in and see if you can get
it done. I was like, okay. So I go in
and I meet the guy that does it, and super
cool dude. So we're just shooting the shit for a
little while and he was like, all right, let me
let me look to see, you know, if we can
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get your hair back. And he's like putting my hair
follicles under a microscope and doing all that and he goes,
oh no, I go what. He goes, Well, see the
donor base part of your head where we would pull
the hairs from and regrow them on top of it.
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That's also pretty sparse, so I don't think you're actually
a good candidate for this. And I was like, are
you telling me I am too bald for hair restoration treatment. Woo,
that is a special type of bald. And he was like, yeah,
it happens. We also have a different route where you
can get the hairline tattooed on your head. And I
was like, no, I'm okay, man, I got friends and family, Like,
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if I walk in with, you know, a crispy tattooed
bald hairline on my head, there's gonna be some questions asked,
you know what I mean. And I don't care how
good the food is at Thanksgiving. If I walk in
looking like you know, Channing Tatum shaved head hairline, they're
gonna be like, what did you do so that that
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did happen. But it's tough having Asian features and being
too bald to regrow your hair. Man. But I will
say the guy was explaining, he was explaining like how
the hair restoration thing worked, because I kind of thought
it was bullshit, you know what I mean, Like Lebron
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James doesn't have hair and he's got a billion dollars,
so I was like, obviously hymns and all that kind
of stuff doesn't work. But he was explaining to me.
He was like, no, no, no, we've gotten better. Like we
have like a robot that goes back and just plucks,
like in your your hair follicles. Sometimes there's like three
four hairs growing in one follicle. They the robot like
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maps out which ones it can take so that we
don't bald where we're taking it from. And then we
put it back on top of your head and we
regrow it, and we give you some stuff that makes
your hair grow in those spots. Basically, you know, soil
and stuff like that. You've seen a plant grow before,
that's what they do to your head. I was like, oh,
it makes a lot of sense. So me and Lebron
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don't share too many similarities, but being too bald to
have hair restoration done is one of them. I will say, though,
if you're listening and you are kind of bald or
you're getting there, go talk. Go talk to one of
those hair restoration places, because they do like they kind
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of what you know, like, all right, hey, if you
can't do the full treatment, now we can give you
stuff that will hold the hair you have until you're
ready to go do the full thing, and then the
full thing works. And I was like, Okay, that's cool
because the guy that runs it. He's got full head
of hair. He had it done, he lost his hair.
We were just shooting the shit. He's like, when when'd
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you lose your hair? And I was like, Ah, shaved
my head, you know, when I was twenty six. I
was probably probably should have done it at twenty five,
and he was like, I lost my hair at twenty one.
I was like, God, damn, somebody's always got it worse, man,
Somebody's always got it worse. Speaking of people having it worse, well,
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I guess not really did y'all? See? Uh, the Epstein
emails that got released. I know, like you know, they
may or may not be true. Who knows, because nothing's
real anymore, but it would be hilarious if it was true.
Apparently Trump Blue Bubba and Vladimir Putin has picture of it,
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and I was like, what the fuck are we doing?
I didn't know this, but Bubba was a nickname for
Bill Clinton, and I wanted to just I wanted that
to be true so bad because it would just sum
up American politics. So what, Like I told you all,
they were all friends. They're going to parties and blowing
each other dude, and Putin has a picture of it,
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and then even worse was uh or not worse funnier?
I don't know. I'd like, somebody jumped in and said
it was Epstein's brother. They were like interviewing Epstein's brother,
which I didn't even know he had a brother, but
they were like, uh, Bubba, isn't Bill Clinton? Wink wink.
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And then somebody found out that Gallaine Maxwell, Epstein's wife,
pimp whatever she was, had a horse named Bubba, and
that listen, if Trump blew Bill Clinton, that's funny. Trump
blowing a horse also funny. But I gotta imagine there
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was some relief from like people that were super locked
in on Trump's side. They were just like, see, I
told you he didn't blow Bill Clinton. It was just
a horse. It was just a horse. I knew he
wasn't gay. Hey, we've all been at a party. We've
all been at a party. Horse horse has a nice cock.
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Doesn't make you gay. It's a horse. It's an animal,
not a man. I knew he wasn't gay. Oh man,
the world does not make sense anymore, dude, it really doesn't.
Like I guess, I guess we can get into the
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headline of the week real quick, Like, I don't know
what timeline we're living in, but this, this is a thing. Now.
Cheating with AI is becoming a g owing factor in
divorce cases. Experts report a sharp rise in divorces linked
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to emotional or romantic AI use. They're warning the public
that the issue will escalate. Look, I'm not trying to
laugh at divorce because it's not funny. It sucks, you
know what I mean, especially if it's a bad one.
Like my parents got divorced when I was in third grade.
It wasn't a great one. But the idea of losing
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half your stuff and having to go pick your kids
up at a Walmart or a fire station because you
were sending dick pics to chat GPT. Come on, dude,
what do we do it?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Just this is where we're going.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, my wife won't talk to me, She won't even
look at me. Chat GPT. You understand me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Then the wife has to you know.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Who are you texting nobody?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
She takes his father. You're to judge it me to
your emotions. Why don't you tell that to me? How
do you even take that seriously as a judge? Because
I know how a lawyer would do it. You know,
they don't care. They're like, yeah, bring me a case.
I can see X, Y z H reconcilable differences. Yeah,
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we can make this work. I'll just pay me. I'll
make it work. Don't worry about it. But as a judge,
you're gonna like hear this out. I feel like this
is the type of shit that needs to go through
Judge Joe Brown, you know what I mean. When you
get up there, or fucking Judge Judy just walk them
in there.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
And be like, I want a divorce cuz my wife
is sexting Gemini and co pilot at the same time
the AI Eiffel towerder and I don't want to be
with this halt anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Also, for the record, Trump is not guy. He just
blew a horse. Why Judge Judy would be like, hey,
go go home, talk to you. What get the fuck
out of my courtroom. What are we doing. You're wasting
You're wasting time on this cheating with AI. Go talk
to your spouses, Go talk to your significant others. Okay,
don't let it go to so stupid. All right, let's
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get in this interview with singer songwriter Matt Cooper and
his guitarist Jordan Smith. What's going on, y'all? Thanks for
having us. Oh dude, it's a pleasure to have you
guys on. Matt, you're passing through. You just got a
new single out, Well, what's the single? Tell everybody?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
A single was called HAIs and Lews and I wrote
it about a year ago after losing somebody really close
to my life. And yeah, man, there's a cool story
behind it, which the song kind of speaks for it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So, so I got you. Well, Jordan, you are the
lead guitarist with Matt.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, I'm just play guitar for him, you know, drive
him to the gym, make sure he takes his creatine,
all the fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I got it. Who can bench more out of the
two of you? All right?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Smaller doesn't mean well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's because the arms don't rock out as much. We're cheating,
I got you, all right? So, uh, do you think
we can get a well preview of highs and lows?
You guys want to play that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Absolutely? Man? All right, let's get it. Ready's not here.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
We go stream it so Matt gets the credit for
the stream and I don't get sued on the podcast.
Now back to the podcast. That's it. That was awesome.
I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate it. That's highs and lows.
Suzanne was telling me how many streams does it have
right now? Nine million? All right, dude, you already got
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nine million streams of people listening. You got a million
people following you on TikTok. When don't we start in
the army? Dude? What do we do? That's what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So, like this is super cool. Obviously I've apologized for,
you know, having you to like go around and talk
to all these radio people. I know that's the pain
of it, but but it's part of you know, what
you got to do to make it. And you're already
at this cool place where you have a platform, labels
behind you. What do you want to do? Like what
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when you sit and go okay, this is the vision?
Like where's it at?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Men? I still don't know, dude, I don't even know
what I'm really doing.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's what you're being super humble, bro. I was like, yeah,
you're you're good at what you do. You're like, no, man,
i'se stink now, I just heard it. You don't okay, man,
I'm just trying dude.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I mean, at the end of the day, I tell
these guys, man, it's it's like it's more of just
like a ministry for me. And like, you know, like
I said, I lost somebody super special me.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That was my mom.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I lost my mom two years ago and so her story,
my story mean something bigger than myself. That that's what
I'm after. Man, I'm just I want to tell the
story as many people as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So I got you and it like it also connects.
Is like, man, everybody, that's the unfortunate part about life
is people you love are not going to be here someday.
So that really speaks to people. And that's got to
feel cool. Like when you do the song and somebody
comes up to you and like, dude, same thing happened
to me, Like your song touched me. Do Like do
you have those moments where people reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, dude, all the time. That's why I write the songs, seriously,
Man's it's cool. So yeah, we're just trying to We're
just trying to, you know, get the music out there
and keep insproning how we can. And you know, however,
many people listen, they listen, whether that's one, or whether
that's a thousand or whether that's more than that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Or nine million. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what's up, dude.
So like up to this point, and Jordan, you can
answer this question too, because I want to hear your answer.
But like, has there been a moment where you were
playing somewhere or you got to meet somebody or do
something where you kind of looked around you're like, oh, man,
I'm I'm doing it, this is it?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Hmm, I don't know what. Has there been a moment
for us that was pretty cool?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Honestly, man, I feel like the first show we ever
played together felt that way. Like when we when we
played at Chiefs back in June. I mean you actually
had like a whole crowd come out. Yeah, that was cool,
and it just it just felt connection right right from
the get go on that on that gig.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We had a bunch of my Nashville friends, our Nationville friends,
and my dad was there too, which is kind of sick.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I had I don't know if I was engaged at
that time or if we were dating, but we were
like really serious, which is fun. And so she was
there and this is a cool moment.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Man, you got to kind of show your fiance like, Hey,
this is what we're about to be doing the rest
of our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
This cool. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
She still thinks I'm good. I don't know why, but
she just likes you. That's what it is. Yeah, tax
me for my body because you're eating all that protein.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
The man fifteen buffalo wild wings.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, we were just at b Doves and the way
Matt Cooper slams wings is something. It's a sight to behold.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It's a blessing and a curse. Nate because it's a
blessing because it consumes me. But the curses. I blessed
bathrooms a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is the craziest interview we've ever had. This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Say we're getting it all out, man, I do want
to ask, like, for people who don't know you, how
did you get to this point because a lot of
people don't know you played at UCF. You played baseball,
But at what point did you start getting like some
traction with music? Like what how did you get here? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean about three years ago, after I got cut
from the UCF baseball team, I was like, dude, I
don't know what I want to do. But I just
started writing songs my freshman year, just in my dorm,
and I had these five songs that I had written,
but I was dead broke and I didn't know what
recording a song was even like or anything, but I
knew I wanted to record them. So I I came
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back home when COVID hit and I sold cars from
Mazda night. I became a car salesman. Yeah, oh yeah,
saved up enough cash to take a trip in Nashville,
got five songs, recorded, one of those songs that put
up on TikTok and it just like went viral overnight
and opened up a lunch doors for opportunities. And from
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that day, I'm just still able to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So walk me through going to sleep amaz the car
salesman and waking up to, oh man, my TikTok is
blown up? What's that feeling like?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You wake up as a young man, and then you
you asked yourself, Am I better than everybody? Is this
looks like to be the greatest person in the world?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, the top dog. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I was sold on going to Nashville like a month
after and just quitting school and becoming famous and doing
all that, and my mom was the one that was like, hey,
slow down, kid, you are nineteen. You got to pray
by all this. You gotta figure out if this is
what you want. And I'm glad I listened to her
advice because I would have made a lot of stupid decisions.
I still make a lot of stupid decisions, but I
would have made a lot more stupid decisions if you
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were to given me that money at that young, right
and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So well, that's what's up man, And you know you
got cut from UCF. Is that like you're Michael Jordan's story,
Michael Jordan's You get to look back and be like, dude,
you missed out on Tim McGrath. Dude, I was right
here ready to play second base for you. Man. That
was it. Yeah, don't look back.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And then we're at that moment that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Was up Jordan. So where did your journey start and
how did you end up running into Matt Man.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
My journey started when I was twelve. But I ran
into Matt because we have a mutual friend who's actually
our bass player, and he was like, hey, man, uh
my buddy, Matt needs a guitar player for this one
off gig and I didn't expect it to turn into
anything more. But Matt's great dude, and I feel like
we kind of just if I can say, we just
(26:39):
hit it off. And he's like, you want to come
along for the ride, and I was like, yes, sir,
I'll buckle up, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So ten weeks of radio tour and it's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, a lot of buffalo wild wings.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, shout out to your bass player slapping some bass
making connections. Matt Eels, Baby, Matt Eels, that's what's up, man.
Shout out to him for making this happen now. Uh,
Suzanne put this in front of me. We got some
Matt Cooper fun facts.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I don't know what he said, just you know.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The the Dream collaboration is interesting to me. It says
Ed Shearing is who you would love to do a
song with?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
What Like he's the man, Like he gives us some pop,
he gives us the love songs, he does everything.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, Okay, so how are we making that happen? Who
do we know? How many people are the boss? I
don't know what six degrees is separation from Ed Shearing.
That that'll get it. Suzanne's a redhead, ed Shearon, he's
a ginger unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I have no idea how to do it, but
I hope one day we do it.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got you, Jordan. You you got a dream collab
that you want to do?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Shoot man, Matt Cooper.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Yeah, Matt Cooper outside, Matt Cooperman. Uh, dude, I love
tr Yeah, dude. Probably probably two yard at some point,
but I don't know. I'm taking it one day at
a time. This is a one day at a time
gig for me. And yeah, and when doors open and
they look awesome, you know, I trust him to make
(28:11):
the right decision, So I'm along for the ride.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's what's up.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Y'all were real cool to get to hang out with
and crush wings that beat ups with. That was a
fun experience. So where can everybody find you on social media?
If they haven't, cause I know you've got a million
people following you, so most people wisting and already do.
But to the ones that don't, we're trying to get
you to two mil, where can they find you?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, it's just real. Matt Cooper on all socials pretty much, Yeah,
all socials. Yeah, so that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
All right, cool, Jordan, what about you?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Uh, it's just uh, I don't even know what my
inscrem is.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I think I think it's just Jordan Smith guitar.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Okay, yeah, most like once a year. Most of the
time it's pictured me.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
My wife said, there you go, all right on tender
for the wrong reasons. But is there anything else? Uh,
you guys want to promote for I'll let you get
out here. Anything you're excited about? Who you got winning
the World Series? What did you say you got winning
the World Series?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I actually haven't watched any beast.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well, yeah, you've been a little busy man. You've been
talking to radio people.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
A Mets fan.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Wait, and I don't like you anymore. I get it.
This interview is going so well and spends two billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Okay, yeah, I got nothing. I mean, we've got we
just dropped a new single, real Fast Car, that's a
really fun one that we like, and then we got
a new one coming out in a few weeks called.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Home Go stream it. So Matt gets the credit for
the stream and I don't get sued on the podcast.
Now back to the podcast. Hey, that was awesome, man, No,
that was good. I'm telling you, you got to leave
the burp on there for the album cut. It's like
the director's cut of them. That whole time. I was
(30:02):
just trying not to last. That was the hot Buffalo
Wings sitting right there, dude. That that's awesome. Man. Well, hey,
Matt Jordan, I appreciate you guys taking time out of
your day to come through and this was fun getting
to meet y'all. Everybody go follow Matt on social media
at the Real Matt Cooper and think about following Jordan,
(30:23):
but you know he he doesn't even know his own
Instagram handle. So go get the song his and lows
be on the lookout for real fast car and then
home is on the way. That's gonna be another banger,
slow banger, but slow a banger.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thanks thanks for call.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Money for Go, Money for Go, Money for Go, Money
for
Mexico money.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Bill speaking that that should not have made it to
the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
This is Inside Thoughts.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Jordan Jeck jack Check, welcome back. Thank you for pressing
playing listening to Inside Thoughts. Hope you're doing good. I
got a cool interview for you at the end of
the podcast with singer songwriter Matt Cooper. Him and his
guitarist Jordan Smith came by. There were super cool. We
chopped it up. You get to hear about it at
(00:34):
the end. Make sure you go stream all of his
music in all that good stuff. I hope you're doing good, man,
I hope you're doing good. You don't good, You're doing
all right, You're doing You're doing fine. Gotta got Thanksgiving
coming up. You're gonna you're gonna hang with the fam
the familia. You're gonna go do that. You're gonna have
(00:56):
a good time. Read this thing, Uh, that's all them
the news today. Read this thing that said people are
coming up with conversation strategies to avoid awkward situations at
Thanksgiving dinner. They have to come up with a game plan.
What do you shoudre Sanders trying to beat the raiders?
(01:18):
Just go talk to your family dude, what are we doing.
I gotta be honest, so you'll you'll have a good
time at Thanksgiving dinner as long as the food in
your house is good. If you've got some shitty food,
you're gonna be in for a bad time. Cause if
the food's good, be all right. Like everybody's just talking
about the food. Everybody's in a good mood, like, uh
(01:40):
oh yeah, you you deep pride. This turkey that's so good. Hey,
who brought the cranberry sauce? Delicious? You got that from
Public's No, everybody's in good mood. Nobody's talking about anything serious.
If you got some bad food though, dry ham, dry turkey,
somebody fucked up the stuffing. Guess what your aunt's gonna
(02:01):
be sitting across the table, going, so when are you
getting married?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
When's that happening? Your drunk uncle starts getting all riled up.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
He was like, I don't care if Trump is on
that list.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
I bet you Bill Clinton fucked twice as many kids
as he did. That's what's gonna go on if you
don't have good food at your house. So make sure
everybody's in the kitchen, focus and ready to go. Otherwise,
you are gonna have to think about some some conversational
strategies to avoid the awkward situations. Gonna have to be like, oh, well,
(02:34):
time to go. We gotta yep, dad's talking about Appstein again.
We gotta get out here. Yeah, we know. Bill Gates
and Bill Quinton were the only ones that were there.
We know, just make sure the food's good. Man. Me
and me and Amy aren't doing anything for Thanksgiving. We
gotta We got a wild travel schedule happening around Christmas,
(02:57):
and we were like, hey, we'll just we'll just do
nothing for Thanksgiving. Might get some taco bell, might get
some Chinese, might order a pizza, get wild with it.
Ames was she was saying like, oh, you know, we could,
we could cook Thanksgiving. I was like, you know, I'm stupid.
There's no like I have not advanced to the tier
(03:18):
of being able to cook a turkey, you know what
I mean. That's not in my wheelhouse. I got bagel bites,
I got cereal, and there's like chicken and rice. That's
about all I can do. That's where my skills are.
Trying to go and cook a turkey or a ham
for Thanksgiving, that's like superstar Lebron level kitchen ability. Okay.
(03:40):
If you don't have that in you stay towards the sides. Okay,
make the mashed potatoes, not mac and cheese, not top
tier sides. Okay, you're not ready for that. You gotta
start on dessert. Then work your way up to the sides,
the low, low risk sides, then you go to high
risk side, and then you go up to the main dish. Okay.
(04:03):
You got to run the Thanksgiving kitchen, the Christmas kitchen
like a successful sports franchise, Okay, And there has to
be a plan of succession where everybody knows what their
job is. God forbid your grandma or grandpa, whoever does
the main dish they pass away, God forbid one of
them goes. It's gonna happen, But everybody needs to know
(04:28):
in the event that that goes down, which aunt, which uncle,
who's stepping up, huh, what are we doing, who's taking
the big time, who's doing that? Because if not, you're
gonna have a Cleveland Browns type organization where you're just
throwing family members into that coveted quarterback turkey spot. Okay,
you're gonna try and see what's going on and it's
(04:49):
not gonna work. That's when you start getting into politics talk,
because you got Dyn Gabriel out there throwing ducks and
making dry ham. Now everybody's pissed at the table. Okay,
your cousin Johnny Manziel's out snorting coke before Thanksgiving. He's
too hungover to make the turkey. Now we're talking about
(05:12):
trans people at the table. I'm sorry, that was stupid.
I just like min a goofy moves. I've had some
weird interactions the last week, Like I just went to
the doctor's office this week or today, not this week?
Today is this week? Went to the doctors this week
(05:35):
because you know, Amy's been telling me to go to
the doctor. I don't like going to the doctor because
you go and they go, hey, do you smoke or
drink or do anything fun? And you go yep, and
they go okay, stop that, and you go not yet.
They go all right, well when you're forty, shit's gonna suck.
(05:56):
And I go, all right, that's a couple tomorrows away.
I'll worry about that when I get there. But you know,
diabetes runs in my family on my mom's side. So
Amy was like, Babe, go go check on it, go
do it all right. I was like, okay, I'll do it.
Because she loves me and she wants me to be
around for a long time, so I was like, all right,
I'll go. So I get in there, telling the lady
(06:19):
like all the stuff, not the wady, the doctor, the
lady doctor. I was telling her all the stuff like
blah blah blah. She's asking me questions, and then I
had to get some blood tests done, so she was
gonna have the nurse come in and do the blood.
But she was like one last question. You know, she's
checking my hearing and all that stuff. She goes, what's
your ethnic background? And I was like Irish Italian? Why.
(06:44):
She goes, hmm, you have Asian features. It's like, does
that mean I have diabetes? She goes, no, the nurse
will be in a second to take your blood. I
was like, well, what was the point of that. You're
just saying I have Asian features? What does that mean?
You're a doctor? I don't like. That's been that's stuck
(07:05):
with me all day. Like of course, I called Amy
up after because she wanted to know how it went.
She was like, what the doctors say doing it, and
I was like, she said, I have Asian features. She
was like, no, you fucking idiot. What does she say
about the diabetes? And I don't know, I'll find out
in a couple of days. We'll see what happens. But
that was just like you just walk in no medical relevancy.
(07:28):
Looked it up on chat GPT. I was like, hey,
do Asian people are they more prone to get diabetes?
Nothing came up, you know, because I thought maybe something was,
you know, like ethnically medically relevant or something like that,
but no, she was just looking. She was like, you
got a small dick. I was like, thank you. Wait
(07:48):
all right, you had to go to med school to
figure that out.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Well, I had to pull the magnifying glass out. They
will let you hold one of those. You go get
your rib knee.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I'm sorry. So that was ridiculous. And then last week,
like I work in radio, so you know, we get
paid as much as school teachers. The way we make
money is like we go meet with advertisers for possible endorsements,
and they have to make sense. And also like, if
(08:21):
you're half a good human being, you're not just going
to endorse whatever, right, Like you don't want to endorse
some bullshit and then tell people to go do it
and then they like experience some trouble with whatever they did,
or you know, they basically just got ripped off because
then that's your name, so you want to go check
it out see if it's legit. I will say though,
(08:45):
there was only one time I took an endorsement where
I was like, yeah, this is this is some bullshit,
but I needed the money. It was for boost Mobile,
and I was like, I'll make a video of me
endorsing boost Mobile, and the people that actually know me
the way I do this, they'll know that I don't
believe it, but I gotta sell it like I do.
(09:08):
I was like telling people to go buy boost Mobile.
I got so many text messages and people going, you're
using boost Mobile. That is too poor of a phone
for me to tech. I'm not doing that. I was like, yeah,
it's stuff. By the way, the service was terrible, couldn't
get couldn't get signal anywhere. So that was That was
the one and the only time I've like endorsed something
(09:29):
where I was like, yeah, I don't believe in this,
but I need the money, so yeah, I'm a bad person.
What are you gonna do? But this this endorsement that
came around, haven't gotten it yet. I don't know if
it's gonna happen. Because somebody approached me. One of our
salespeople was like, hey, I don't uh, I don't want
to offend you, but just wanted to, you know, offer
(09:52):
this endorsement opportunity to you. And I was like, well,
that's the most interesting way salesperson's ever pitched that to me.
I go what is it? And they're like, it's for
a hair restoration clinic. And I was like, oh, okay, yeah, cool,
I'll go do that way. You don't it's it's fine
if you're bald. I was like, yeah, I know. She
was like, no, no, it's okay if you're bald. I
(10:14):
was like, I get it. I know I'm bald. It's fine.
I'll go talk to the hair restoration people like I
like being bald, I don't want hair like I'll just
tell them like, hey, well pitch it this way. I
can say, hey, I remember the anxiety of seeing your
hair fall out into the shower and thinking that you're
never going to have a girl talk to you ever again.
I get it, but I don't want my hair back.
(10:34):
I got lucky, I look better bald. So I was like, yeah,
I'll just pitch it to him that way. And I
was talking. I was talking with this place is like
media buy people, and they're like, well, we think, you know,
we've never had somebody do that, so we just think
it'd be better for you to come in and just
see if we can get your hair back. You know,
you can shave it if we grow it back, but
(10:54):
just just go in and see if you can get
it done. I was like, okay. So I go in
and I meet the guy that does it, and super
cool dude. So we're just shooting the shit for a
little while and he was like, all right, let me
let me look to see, you know, if we can
(11:16):
get your hair back. And he's like putting my hair
follicles under a microscope and doing all that and he goes,
oh no, I go what. He goes, Well, see the
donor base part of your head where we would pull
the hairs from and regrow them on top of it.
(11:37):
That's also pretty sparse, so I don't think you're actually
a good candidate for this. And I was like, are
you telling me I am too bald for hair restoration treatment. Woo,
that is a special type of bald. And he was like, yeah,
it happens. We also have a different route where you
can get the hairline tattooed on your head. And I
was like, no, I'm okay, man, I got friends and family, Like,
(12:00):
if I walk in with, you know, a crispy tattooed
bald hairline on my head, there's gonna be some questions asked,
you know what I mean. And I don't care how
good the food is at Thanksgiving. If I walk in
looking like you know, Channing Tatum shaved head hairline, they're
gonna be like, what did you do so that that
(12:23):
did happen. But it's tough having Asian features and being
too bald to regrow your hair. Man. But I will
say the guy was explaining, he was explaining like how
the hair restoration thing worked, because I kind of thought
it was bullshit, you know what I mean, Like Lebron
(12:44):
James doesn't have hair and he's got a billion dollars,
so I was like, obviously hymns and all that kind
of stuff doesn't work. But he was explaining to me.
He was like, no, no, no, we've gotten better. Like we
have like a robot that goes back and just plucks,
like in your your hair follicles. Sometimes there's like three
four hairs growing in one follicle. They the robot like
(13:07):
maps out which ones it can take so that we
don't bald where we're taking it from. And then we
put it back on top of your head and we
regrow it, and we give you some stuff that makes
your hair grow in those spots. Basically, you know, soil
and stuff like that. You've seen a plant grow before,
that's what they do to your head. I was like, oh,
it makes a lot of sense. So me and Lebron
(13:30):
don't share too many similarities, but being too bald to
have hair restoration done is one of them. I will say, though,
if you're listening and you are kind of bald or
you're getting there, go talk. Go talk to one of
those hair restoration places, because they do like they kind
(13:50):
of what you know, like, all right, hey, if you
can't do the full treatment, now we can give you
stuff that will hold the hair you have until you're
ready to go do the full thing, and then the
full thing works. And I was like, Okay, that's cool
because the guy that runs it. He's got full head
of hair. He had it done, he lost his hair.
We were just shooting the shit. He's like, when when'd
(14:12):
you lose your hair? And I was like, Ah, shaved
my head, you know, when I was twenty six. I
was probably probably should have done it at twenty five,
and he was like, I lost my hair at twenty one.
I was like, God, damn, somebody's always got it worse, man,
Somebody's always got it worse. Speaking of people having it worse, well,
(14:36):
I guess not really did y'all? See? Uh, the Epstein
emails that got released. I know, like you know, they
may or may not be true. Who knows, because nothing's
real anymore, but it would be hilarious if it was true.
Apparently Trump Blue Bubba and Vladimir Putin has picture of it,
(15:00):
and I was like, what the fuck are we doing?
I didn't know this, but Bubba was a nickname for
Bill Clinton, and I wanted to just I wanted that
to be true so bad because it would just sum
up American politics. So what, Like I told you all,
they were all friends. They're going to parties and blowing
each other dude, and Putin has a picture of it,
(15:22):
and then even worse was uh or not worse funnier?
I don't know. I'd like, somebody jumped in and said
it was Epstein's brother. They were like interviewing Epstein's brother,
which I didn't even know he had a brother, but
they were like, uh, Bubba, isn't Bill Clinton? Wink wink.
(15:42):
And then somebody found out that Gallaine Maxwell, Epstein's wife,
pimp whatever she was, had a horse named Bubba, and
that listen, if Trump blew Bill Clinton, that's funny. Trump
blowing a horse also funny. But I gotta imagine there
(16:05):
was some relief from like people that were super locked
in on Trump's side. They were just like, see, I
told you he didn't blow Bill Clinton. It was just
a horse. It was just a horse. I knew he
wasn't gay. Hey, we've all been at a party. We've
all been at a party. Horse horse has a nice cock.
(16:25):
Doesn't make you gay. It's a horse. It's an animal,
not a man. I knew he wasn't gay. Oh man,
the world does not make sense anymore, dude, it really doesn't.
Like I guess, I guess we can get into the
(16:46):
headline of the week real quick, Like, I don't know
what timeline we're living in, but this, this is a thing. Now.
Cheating with AI is becoming a g owing factor in
divorce cases. Experts report a sharp rise in divorces linked
(17:06):
to emotional or romantic AI use. They're warning the public
that the issue will escalate. Look, I'm not trying to
laugh at divorce because it's not funny. It sucks, you
know what I mean, especially if it's a bad one.
Like my parents got divorced when I was in third grade.
It wasn't a great one. But the idea of losing
(17:30):
half your stuff and having to go pick your kids
up at a Walmart or a fire station because you
were sending dick pics to chat GPT. Come on, dude,
what do we do it?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Like?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Just this is where we're going.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
Well, my wife won't talk to me, She won't even
look at me. Chat GPT. You understand me.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Then the wife has to you know.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Who are you texting nobody?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
She takes his father. You're to judge it me to
your emotions. Why don't you tell that to me? How
do you even take that seriously as a judge? Because
I know how a lawyer would do it. You know,
they don't care. They're like, yeah, bring me a case.
I can see X, Y z H reconcilable differences. Yeah,
(18:26):
we can make this work. I'll just pay me. I'll
make it work. Don't worry about it. But as a judge,
you're gonna like hear this out. I feel like this
is the type of shit that needs to go through
Judge Joe Brown, you know what I mean. When you
get up there, or fucking Judge Judy just walk them
in there.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
And be like, I want a divorce cuz my wife
is sexting Gemini and co pilot at the same time
the AI Eiffel towerder and I don't want to be
with this halt anymore.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Also, for the record, Trump is not guy. He just
blew a horse. Why Judge Judy would be like, hey,
go go home, talk to you. What get the fuck
out of my courtroom. What are we doing. You're wasting
You're wasting time on this cheating with AI. Go talk
to your spouses, Go talk to your significant others. Okay,
don't let it go to so stupid. All right, let's
(19:26):
get in this interview with singer songwriter Matt Cooper and
his guitarist Jordan Smith. What's going on, y'all? Thanks for
having us. Oh dude, it's a pleasure to have you
guys on. Matt, you're passing through. You just got a
new single out, Well, what's the single? Tell everybody?
Speaker 3 (19:42):
A single was called HAIs and Lews and I wrote
it about a year ago after losing somebody really close
to my life. And yeah, man, there's a cool story
behind it, which the song kind of speaks for it.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
So, so I got you. Well, Jordan, you are the
lead guitarist with Matt.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
Yeah, I'm just play guitar for him, you know, drive
him to the gym, make sure he takes his creatine,
all the fun stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
I got it. Who can bench more out of the
two of you? All right?
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Smaller doesn't mean well.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's because the arms don't rock out as much. We're cheating,
I got you, all right? So, uh, do you think
we can get a well preview of highs and lows?
You guys want to play that?
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Absolutely? Man? All right, let's get it. Ready's not here.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
We go stream it so Matt gets the credit for
the stream and I don't get sued on the podcast.
Now back to the podcast. That's it. That was awesome.
I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate it. That's highs and lows.
Suzanne was telling me how many streams does it have
right now? Nine million? All right, dude, you already got
(20:49):
nine million streams of people listening. You got a million
people following you on TikTok. When don't we start in
the army? Dude? What do we do? That's what's up?
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (20:59):
So, like this is super cool. Obviously I've apologized for,
you know, having you to like go around and talk
to all these radio people. I know that's the pain
of it, but but it's part of you know, what
you got to do to make it. And you're already
at this cool place where you have a platform, labels
behind you. What do you want to do? Like what
(21:20):
when you sit and go okay, this is the vision?
Like where's it at?
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:26):
Men? I still don't know, dude, I don't even know
what I'm really doing.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
That's what you're being super humble, bro. I was like, yeah,
you're you're good at what you do. You're like, no, man,
i'se stink now, I just heard it. You don't okay, man,
I'm just trying dude.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
I mean, at the end of the day, I tell
these guys, man, it's it's like it's more of just
like a ministry for me. And like, you know, like
I said, I lost somebody super special me.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
That was my mom.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I lost my mom two years ago and so her story,
my story mean something bigger than myself. That that's what
I'm after. Man, I'm just I want to tell the
story as many people as possible.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
So I got you and it like it also connects.
Is like, man, everybody, that's the unfortunate part about life
is people you love are not going to be here someday.
So that really speaks to people. And that's got to
feel cool. Like when you do the song and somebody
comes up to you and like, dude, same thing happened
to me, Like your song touched me. Do Like do
you have those moments where people reach out to you?
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Yeah, dude, all the time. That's why I write the songs, seriously,
Man's it's cool. So yeah, we're just trying to We're
just trying to, you know, get the music out there
and keep insproning how we can. And you know, however,
many people listen, they listen, whether that's one, or whether
that's a thousand or whether that's more than that.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Or nine million. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what's up, dude.
So like up to this point, and Jordan, you can
answer this question too, because I want to hear your answer.
But like, has there been a moment where you were
playing somewhere or you got to meet somebody or do
something where you kind of looked around you're like, oh, man,
I'm I'm doing it, this is it?
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Hmm, I don't know what. Has there been a moment
for us that was pretty cool?
Speaker 6 (22:59):
Honestly, man, I feel like the first show we ever
played together felt that way. Like when we when we
played at Chiefs back in June. I mean you actually
had like a whole crowd come out. Yeah, that was cool,
and it just it just felt connection right right from
the get go on that on that gig.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Yeah, that was cool.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
We had a bunch of my Nashville friends, our Nationville friends,
and my dad was there too, which is kind of sick.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
I had I don't know if I was engaged at
that time or if we were dating, but we were
like really serious, which is fun. And so she was
there and this is a cool moment.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Man, you got to kind of show your fiance like, Hey,
this is what we're about to be doing the rest
of our lives.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
This cool. Right.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
She still thinks I'm good. I don't know why, but
she just likes you. That's what it is. Yeah, tax
me for my body because you're eating all that protein.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
The man fifteen buffalo wild wings.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Yeah, we were just at b Doves and the way
Matt Cooper slams wings is something. It's a sight to behold.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
It's a blessing and a curse. Nate because it's a
blessing because it consumes me. But the curses. I blessed
bathrooms a lot.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
This is the craziest interview we've ever had. This is awesome.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Say we're getting it all out, man, I do want
to ask, like, for people who don't know you, how
did you get to this point because a lot of
people don't know you played at UCF. You played baseball,
But at what point did you start getting like some
traction with music? Like what how did you get here? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:23):
I mean about three years ago, after I got cut
from the UCF baseball team, I was like, dude, I
don't know what I want to do. But I just
started writing songs my freshman year, just in my dorm,
and I had these five songs that I had written,
but I was dead broke and I didn't know what
recording a song was even like or anything, but I
knew I wanted to record them. So I I came
(24:43):
back home when COVID hit and I sold cars from
Mazda night. I became a car salesman. Yeah, oh yeah,
saved up enough cash to take a trip in Nashville,
got five songs, recorded, one of those songs that put
up on TikTok and it just like went viral overnight
and opened up a lunch doors for opportunities. And from
(25:03):
that day, I'm just still able to do it.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So walk me through going to sleep amaz the car
salesman and waking up to, oh man, my TikTok is
blown up? What's that feeling like?
Speaker 3 (25:16):
You wake up as a young man, and then you
you asked yourself, Am I better than everybody? Is this
looks like to be the greatest person in the world?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yeah, the top dog. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
I was sold on going to Nashville like a month
after and just quitting school and becoming famous and doing
all that, and my mom was the one that was like, hey,
slow down, kid, you are nineteen. You got to pray
by all this. You gotta figure out if this is
what you want. And I'm glad I listened to her
advice because I would have made a lot of stupid decisions.
I still make a lot of stupid decisions, but I
would have made a lot more stupid decisions if you
(25:51):
were to given me that money at that young, right
and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:55):
So well, that's what's up man, And you know you
got cut from UCF. Is that like you're Michael Jordan's story,
Michael Jordan's You get to look back and be like, dude,
you missed out on Tim McGrath. Dude, I was right
here ready to play second base for you. Man. That
was it. Yeah, don't look back.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
And then we're at that moment that.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Was up Jordan. So where did your journey start and
how did you end up running into Matt Man.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
My journey started when I was twelve. But I ran
into Matt because we have a mutual friend who's actually
our bass player, and he was like, hey, man, uh
my buddy, Matt needs a guitar player for this one
off gig and I didn't expect it to turn into
anything more. But Matt's great dude, and I feel like
we kind of just if I can say, we just
(26:39):
hit it off. And he's like, you want to come
along for the ride, and I was like, yes, sir,
I'll buckle up, let's go, let's do it.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
So ten weeks of radio tour and it's been awesome.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Man.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, a lot of buffalo wild wings.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, shout out to your bass player slapping some bass
making connections. Matt Eels, Baby, Matt Eels, that's what's up, man.
Shout out to him for making this happen now. Uh,
Suzanne put this in front of me. We got some
Matt Cooper fun facts.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
I don't know what he said, just you know.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
The the Dream collaboration is interesting to me. It says
Ed Shearing is who you would love to do a
song with?
Speaker 3 (27:19):
What Like he's the man, Like he gives us some pop,
he gives us the love songs, he does everything.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Man, Okay, so how are we making that happen? Who
do we know? How many people are the boss? I
don't know what six degrees is separation from Ed Shearing.
That that'll get it. Suzanne's a redhead, ed Shearon, he's
a ginger unfortunately.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
Yeah, I have no idea how to do it, but
I hope one day we do it.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
I got you, Jordan. You you got a dream collab
that you want to do?
Speaker 3 (27:48):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (27:48):
Shoot man, Matt Cooper.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
Yeah, Matt Cooper outside, Matt Cooperman. Uh, dude, I love
tr Yeah, dude. Probably probably two yard at some point,
but I don't know. I'm taking it one day at
a time. This is a one day at a time
gig for me. And yeah, and when doors open and
they look awesome, you know, I trust him to make
(28:11):
the right decision, So I'm along for the ride.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That's what's up.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Y'all were real cool to get to hang out with
and crush wings that beat ups with. That was a
fun experience. So where can everybody find you on social media?
If they haven't, cause I know you've got a million
people following you, so most people wisting and already do.
But to the ones that don't, we're trying to get
you to two mil, where can they find you?
Speaker 3 (28:30):
Yeah, it's just real. Matt Cooper on all socials pretty much, Yeah,
all socials. Yeah, so that's where you can find me.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
All right, cool, Jordan, what about you?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
Uh, it's just uh, I don't even know what my
inscrem is.
Speaker 6 (28:45):
I think I think it's just Jordan Smith guitar.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Okay, yeah, most like once a year. Most of the
time it's pictured me.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
My wife said, there you go, all right on tender
for the wrong reasons. But is there anything else? Uh,
you guys want to promote for I'll let you get
out here. Anything you're excited about? Who you got winning
the World Series? What did you say you got winning
the World Series?
Speaker 3 (29:11):
I actually haven't watched any beast.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Well, yeah, you've been a little busy man. You've been
talking to radio people.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
A Mets fan.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
Wait, and I don't like you anymore. I get it.
This interview is going so well and spends two billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
Okay, yeah, I got nothing. I mean, we've got we
just dropped a new single, real Fast Car, that's a
really fun one that we like, and then we got
a new one coming out in a few weeks called.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Home Go stream it. So Matt gets the credit for
the stream and I don't get sued on the podcast.
Now back to the podcast. Hey, that was awesome, man, No,
that was good. I'm telling you, you got to leave
the burp on there for the album cut. It's like
the director's cut of them. That whole time. I was
(30:02):
just trying not to last. That was the hot Buffalo
Wings sitting right there, dude. That that's awesome. Man. Well, hey,
Matt Jordan, I appreciate you guys taking time out of
your day to come through and this was fun getting
to meet y'all. Everybody go follow Matt on social media
at the Real Matt Cooper and think about following Jordan,
(30:23):
but you know he he doesn't even know his own
Instagram handle. So go get the song his and lows
be on the lookout for real fast car and then
home is on the way. That's gonna be another banger,
slow banger, but slow a banger.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Thanks thanks for call.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
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