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May 23, 2023 • 27 mins
Parker McCollum talks with Nick about his new album and meeting Vince Gill
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Wye still speaking that that should nothave made it to the rest of us.
This is Inside Thoughts. Check checkcheck went to three week Live Baby.
Welcome back to Inside Thoughts. Iappreciate you choosing this podcast over any

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other podcast, or maybe this islike the third one you've listened to.
I don't care. I gotta goodshow for you. You say that all
the time. Yeah, well they'reall good. You got to talk with
Parker McCollum, country singer. Heuh, he's doing a show in Wilmington
June Third's gonna be a good show. And he also just dropped an album.

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It's good, so I'll talk withhim after. But happy Tuesday morning.
Got my cup of coffee and itis delicious. Free office coffee.
Up a goofy in the morning.Oh yeah, I gotta stop watching TikTok
Man. How you doing. Ihope you're having a good week so far.

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I am getting into the week slowly. I guess it kind of messed
around on Sunday. Sunday is normallymy day where I don't talk to anybody.
I just do the adult stuff thatI have to do, like you
know, clean the apartment, goto the store of that type of stuff.
I did go to the store,but I messed up and I went
hungry. And you should never goto the store when you're hungry, because

(01:32):
you're just you're not thinking clear minded, you know what I mean. It's
like when you're out of the barsand you're making questionable decisions at two o'clock
when you really should just go homeand one out, you know what I
mean. That's kind of how itis. Get into the grocery store when
you're a little hungry. I boughtthe stupidest thing, made the dumbest purchase

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of all time. I needed hotsauce. So go over to the hot
sauce aisle and I see they gotTaco Bell fire sauce in a bottle,
and I bought it. And Iknow you're thinking, Nick, that's not
stupid. You wanted it, youbought it, You have money for it.
You're an adult. You can makedecisions. You can get Taco Bell
fire sauce for free. Basically,you just go to Taco Bell one time

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and you ask for a ton offire sauce and you say it just like
that. Because the Taco Bell employeesthey know, and they also don't care
about Taco Bell's bottom line. Theywill give you the whole crate of fire
sauce. But my dumba bought awhole bottle of Taco Bell fire sauce for

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like eight bucks. Just throwing moneyaway. Sound like a parent. Now,
do you think money just grows ontrees? Damn it, No,
it doesn't. But my favorite thingabout money is you can always make more.
And that's probably why I'm gonna bepoor for the rest of my life
because I have that mentality when itcomes to money. I never learned the

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value of a dollar. I justlike spending money. But that's what like
people who actually have money, orpeople who are good with money, they
don't spend it. They are frugal. That's the thing. Like I've had
even like people that are dumb,like if they had smart parents, Like
we all know that one person that'sjust raking in so much money in some

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crazy fortune five hundred company job.But you're like, they're an idiot.
You know, we like shotgun beers. I know they're not smart, but
they make a lot of money.You don't know why because their parents taught
them the value of a dollar.And as dumb as they are, they
know how to keep money and dotheir job like I'm I'm so stupid,

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like the kind of dumb I am. I have to find ways to spend
money, like I had different waysthat I wasted money throughout my wife.
Like my teenage years, it was, you know, you just drive around.
You're just like, dude, gotan extra twenty you know, and

(04:03):
I'm gonna spend that on bim twentysack right there, dude. Then I
got into my twenties and if Ihad extra money, spend it on girls
taking them out on dates, notwhatever kind of trafficking stuff's going on.
I don't have Andrew Tape money.Okay, who would never do that?
This just spickball, It's not whatI'm talking about. And then I get

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my thirties and the thing that Iwaste my money on the most is gambling.
If you gamble right now, stop. But I have a system and
I know how it works, andit No, No, gambling is not
for smart people. I was inVegas one time for my buddy's bachelor party
and basically gambled all my money away. I had no money getting back to

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the airport. My phone broke becauseI dropped it, like I felt like
I was walking out of the Hangovermovie. It was one of those things
where I was like, man,Vegas just beat the ship out of me.
So I had to get a taxi. I had like ten bucks left
just to get to the airport.I didn't want to walk like the two
miles or whatever it was. SoI get in the taxi spend my last

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money to get on this plane.And the taxi driver was like, how
are you doing, my friend?And I was like good man. He's
like, do you enjoy Vegas?And I was like, yeah, it
was fun. I just you know, lost all my money. And he
pointed to the skyline of downtown Vegas. He goes, my friend, do
you see these told buildings? AndI was like yeah. He goes,

(05:32):
you know who pays for them?And I was like, I don't know,
like the mob. Maybe he goes, no, stupid people like you.
I was like, yeah, bron, Because you think gambling, you
always think, especially when you gamblelike an idiot, Like if you don't
gamble that much money, but youthrow like you're constantly throwing money away,

(05:53):
like on parlays, you're an idiotbecause you put like the nine leg parlay
down and you see what the potentialpayout could be. Who like, dude,
I'll put ten bucks down, themwill make one hundred thousand dollars.
You start fantasizing about what you cando with one hundred thousand bucks. Student,
I can pay off all my debts. Dude, I might even buy

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my mom a car. Dude couldbuy her a house, doesn't matter.
Get all those ideas, and thenyou'll hit eight legs of the parlay and
then the Lakers won't cover, andthen you're like, Okay, now I
just lost money, but I gotto do it again. And that's stupid,
that's just throwing your money away.But I gotta throw my money away.

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Man. Speaking of the Lakers.NBA playoffs are going on right now.
I love NBA playoffs probably my secondfavorite type of playoffs to watch.
Like Football is number one, becausethat's just like once a week, so
it feels big. NBA is probablynumber two. I love baseball playoffs,

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but like you can miss a game, you know what I mean. NBA
playoffs every game feels like it's huge. Itch. So Lakers got bounced last
night and they got sweat. Lebronput up like almost a forty point triple
double at thirty eight, at thirtyeight years old, he's doing this.

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I'm thirty six, No, he'sthirty eight, But it like I'm getting
kind of sad. I woke upsad this morning because I saw the postgame
presser and it kind of sounded likehe was talking about retiring for a little
bit, even though he wants toplay with his kid Brownie at least for
one season before he's done. Like, I saw an interesting theory from WAB

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or Worldwide wab whatever his name ison Twitter. He was talking about Lebron
retiring this year, watching Brawny playat usc and then coming back in twenty
twenty and playing with Brownie one lastyear, getting like his farewell tour,
also taking some of the pressure offBrownny coming into the league, which would

(08:07):
be good. But man, theidea of Lebron not playing anymore, it
makes me sad. Dude, Whydoes it make you sad? Because it
means time is going on and I'mgetting older and I have not accomplished Lebron
level things. But I attach someof my success in my life to the
success Lebron had because I'm a dumbperson, and that's how sports fans operate.

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Man, Just like a year withoutLebron's gonna be like the year without
Santa Claus. You'll have like DevinBooker and KD be like, I'm mister
heat miser, I'm misterson get bouncedout in the first round. It's just

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gonna it's gonna be sad when Lebron'snot playing basketball anymore, man, because
he's always been the fixture in theleague. And if you're if you're Lebron
hater, I feel bad for youbecause I've been there at one point in
his career. I was there whenhe left Cleveland the first time. I
was mad. I was hurt,felt like my girlfriend just broke up with
me. All this over sports.Yeah, I'm a dumb person. I

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just told you how I wasted money. I'm not the brightest. Okay,
this is how dumb people think aboutsports. You get so attached and invested
because it's an outlet of your wifea little bit, you know what I
mean. So when he left Cleveland, I was sad. I was hurt.
I routed against Lebron the whole timehe was in Miami, and even
like when there was rumors he wascoming back the first week, I was

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like, no, it a littlelebroadback. He can stay in Miami.
Here do you left? And Istarted thinking about it. I was like,
bro, if he comes back andwins a championship for Cleveland, I
don't care, dude, do whateveryou do. You kept your promise.
It didn't happen when we wanted it, but you kept your promise. And
then he came back did just that. No love Lebron, I don't care.

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It's like he made his amends.But if you don't like Lebron and
you just hate Lebron for the factthat you hate Lebron, there's like two
types of people that hate Lebron.It's old guys who are like, no,
Michael Jordan's the greatest devote Michael Jordanis the best. And then there's

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the younger people who their dads tellthem that Michael Jordan was the best of
all time. And the young peoplealso kind of listened to Dave Portnoy for
no reason, who just loves tohate them because it's good for content,
and so they're way, oh laflop uh la crib baby, the big
fat poo, And it's like,dude, you're you're hating on greatness instead

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of just enjoying what's happening, becauseI mean, we'll see probably that level
of greatness again, but it won'tbe for like another ten, fifteen,
twenty years. It's decades. Man. You know where you're gonna be in
a couple decades. You know howmany broken dreams are gonna fall by the
way side in twenty years. I'mjust saying, enjoy it for what it

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is. I do think it wouldbe cool if Lebron retired after this year,
because then it'd be a big dealand we would kind of get to
see what wife would be like withoutLebron. And then when he starts making
his comeback, I imagine it wouldbe like MJ coming back. See,
he just wants to copy Michael Jordan, and he didn't have retirements on him.

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He had everything else on him,but he didn't have retirements on him.
So he's gonna retire so I cancopy m J. Yeah. Maybe,
But also it'd be so sick ifhe just came back signed with whatever
team drafted Brawny one more time.He gets his due process on the farewell
tour. Everybody loves him because wemissed him for a year, give him
his flowers, and then you know, he goes off into the sunset.

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Because this is it's gonna be sadwhen Lebron's out there, you know,
not putting up forty point triple doublesbecause it means time has passed and what
have you done with your life sinceit's time? Man? That's whatever.
Oh dude, I was. Ihave this problem going on in my apartment

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complex right now. I don't Idon't really understand what's going on. But
okay, So first of all,I walked into my job like last week,
and I asked my boss. Iwas like, Hey, if I
go to jail, would I getfired. My boss was like, yeah,
don't get arrested. I was like, okay. But the reason I

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asked that was because so like twoto three weeks ago, I took trash
out from my apartment, like alittle grocery plastic grocery bag sized trash.
Took it out of my apartment andthrew it in the parking deck trash can
next to my car. Because Iwas just walking that way. The trash
shoot is in the opposite direction.I was like, I'm walking this way,

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I'm just gonna dump my trash inthere, so I dump my trash
in there. I come back fromwork and my trash that I thought that
I put in the trash can wasback at my front door, and I
was like, for a sport second, I was like, did I like
put this down on the ground tolock my door and then forget about it?

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I don't. I don't know whathappened. So I just kind of
ignored it, went put it backin the trash And then last week I
did the same thing, put trashback there, and I came back from
work and my trash was like thrownin front of my door in my apartment
complex. So I walked down tothe leasing office and I was like,

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hey, are we not allowed toput trash in the parking deck trash cans?
And there They looked at me likeI was an idiot, and they
were like, no, it's trash, you can put it in there.
I was like, okay, that'swhat I was thinking, and I told
him the whole situation. I waslike, is there any reason, like
the people that pick up the trashand the parking deck would be mad at
me or something, and they go, I don't know. They had zero

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answers for you, which, bythe way, leasing managers at apartment complexes
are literally the least customer friendly humanbeings of all time. I don't know
how they get away with that.They're like, yeah, you live here
in this building that I don't livein. I just work here. I
go forward yourself if you have anyquestions. I'm like, okay, relax,
I just wanted you to change outa different white BALLB so I didn't

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have to pay for it. Butwhatever, I'll go buy the white BALLB.
But that's not the point. Sothey were looking at me like I
was crazy, and they're like,no, the trash people that pick it
up in the parking deck. Shouldn'tyou know, dig through the trash and
throw it back on your front door. Somebody must be messing with you.
And then I was thinking, Iwas like, dude, who have I
made mad in my apartment complex?I don't I don't talk to anybody in

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my apartment complex. I don't wantto know people where I live. That's
my safe space. I don't wantto have to go, hey, Denise
Gregg, how's it going. Idon't want to do that. I want
to walk back into my place andnot talk to anybody. It's my fortress
of solitude. You know what Imean? Are you superman? No,
I'm dumb man. But I don'tno interaction in my apartment complex unless I

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bring friends over. Okay, that'sall that needs to happen. So I
don't know who I could have mademad at my apartment complex. But somebody
is watching me put my trash intothis parking deck trash, waiting for me
to leave, digging it out ofthe trash and putting it back in front
of my door. I don't knowif I got a serial killer stock in

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me or something, but might endup on a Netflix special. It's like,
what kind of person does that?Even if, like here's what I
was thinking, Even if it's theparking deck trash people and they're like mad
that I'm putting trash in, thereis something they don't want to do their

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job, Like the level of crazyyou gotta be to dig trash out and
then walk it back to No way, you know what I mean, There's
no way. But I don't.I don't know. I just I can't.
I can't believe that that's going on. I gotta figure that out.
But I was asking my boss,if I would go to jail, if

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I would get fired, if Iwanted to jail, because if I catch
somebody doing this in the act,I'm gonna beat him up, you know
what I mean. And I'm notsaying that like I'm a tough guy.
It's just that's the most disrespectful thingthat's got to happen. I can't have
been thinking I'm a bitch, likeyou can just throw trash on my front
door. I gotta fight you.I might lose, but I gotta fight
you. I want to get downto the bottom of this. I'll keep

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you updated. Probably nothing will happen, but it's coffee's good. Oh man.
I've been on the internet all thisweek, and my favorite, Like,
so conspiracy theories are fun, butmajority of them, you know,
or be like, some things arejust what they are. But my favorite

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conspiracy theory that I choose to believe, I know it's probably not true,
Like I'm ninety nine point nine percentsure it's not true, but I choose
to believe it. It's Jimmy Butlerof the Miami Heat is Michael Jordan's illegitimate
son. Have you guys heard ofthis conspiracy theory? So apparently MJ had

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an illegitimate kid in nineteen eighty eight, and he was making payments to the
kid's mom, and then the paymentsstopped when the kid was thirteen because MJ
was like, I'm not paying youanymore. I got some gambling debt.
My eyes are getting super yellow.I can't even see the kid anymore.
So if you look at that storyand then line it up to Jimmy Butler's

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story, he had a single momand he got kicked out of the house
when he was thirteen. And also, he's got that dog in him,
you know what I mean, He'sgot that MJ dog in him. He's
bringing the eighth seed. He they'regonna go to the finals and play the
Nuggets. Probably, I don't know. I choose to believe that Jimmy Butler
is Michael Jordan's said, even thoughapparently MJ had this illegitimate kid in eighty

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eight and Jimmy was born in eightynine. I'm not trying to hear the
facts, people, I'm not tryingto hear it. I just like believing
stupid stuff because it's fun. Whatelse am I gonna do? Is it
hurt anybody? If it's true.No, all right, let's talk about
the most ridiculous headline of the weekand then we'll get to this Parker mccollumn
interview. This is actually not aheadline. There's just something a video I

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keep seeing on social media and itmakes me sad. This is how dumb
people are. Like this whole podcast, I've been telling you how dumb I
am. Okay, you know I'mstupid, so I should be able to
point out when other people are beingstupid. It takes one, now,
one. Right. There's this videogoing around called the Mirror World where somebody

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puts a piece of notebook paper ona mirror and then puts like a little
phone charger cue behind it, andthen takes their phone and films the phone
charger so you can see it onthe other side. But they're like the
papers covering the mirror, the mirrorshouldn't know what's on the other side.

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And I saw this like a monthor two ago maybe, and I was
like, this is funny. Howstupid is I know way people actually believe
it. It was just funny,Like I thought it was one of those
jokes where somebody's actively being an idioton the Internet to garner some likes and
reactions, but I keep seeing itlike I saw it this morning and people
were like, you don't know what'sin the mirror world, Bro, The

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earth is flat and on the otherside, it's just the mirror. Who
lives over there? I don't know. Probably sentient beings from another dimension.
Do their dimensions exist? Probably?Do you understand how a mirror works?
Now, Because mirrors work. It'sthe light that hits off and goes to

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your eye or the phone camera.It's not the mirror just going in one
direction. You name him poop.But people, this is like, I
don't understand how we've gotten so dumbas people. But we're there, We're
there. Go ahead. We endedon a high note. All right.

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I have been talking long enough.Let's get to this. Parker McCollum interview.
Hey, this is Parker McCallum.All right, what's going on,
Parker? How are you doing?Bro? Hey, I'm doing really well
man. Thanks for having me alltoday. No, thanks for taking the
time to talk. Man. You'vebeen having a pretty good year. Huh.
You got third number one single newalbum Torn with Morgan Wallen, even

(20:52):
though that's paused right now. Buthow's twenty twenty three feel. Man,
It's about as good as it's beenright now. Just trying to enjoy it
and uh, you know, takeit all in. But I'm blessed and
looking forward to keeping it going.I got you well, Like I said
the Morgan Wallen tour guy, pausefor a little bit. You're gonna be
out at Wilmington June third. Whatuh what can people expect for that show?

(21:18):
They will come out swinging. Wegot a whole new production, a
whole new show, new album out, so a ton of new songs,
and it's just been crazy. Whatyou know, the the year has been
so far, and uh says thatwe get better and better every night,
and uh, North Carolina will beno different. I got you well.
Hey, tell me a little bitabout the album because the new single,

(21:41):
burn It Down It it's got adifferent sound to it. I like it.
It's just like, wasn't what Iwas expecting coming off handle on you.
Yeah, it's uh man. Itry not to write radio hits,
trying to everythink about that or anything, just you know, write songs and
and going and cut them and trya big, genuine and authentic and honest

(22:03):
in the process and Burn It Downwas was how I was still in that
day, and um, you know, super different from anything else I've ever
cut. I don't think I've everreally cutting thing in that vein Man's rocking
and ripping and um even I thinkin the future I'll probably lean more back
towards the handle on you and thethings I never told you in the tales.
I lose kind of songs on therecord, um since through my my

(22:26):
little comfort spot. But it's niceto get out and cut a song like
Burn It Down and right now,Man, I got you. Man,
Well, hey, I got tosee you at the Rhyman during CRS.
For people that weren't there, Canyou tell people about the Will Smith interaction
you had? Yeah, it wasit was wow man, Royce Rischer,

(22:47):
Um, you know, it askedme a couple months prior if I wanted
to be a part of the theprank at CRS. I said sure,
not knowing what you know he hadin mind. I knew would come for
an epic and uh, you know, he kind of explained it to me
in the came time. The otherday the CRS arrived and it was that
morning I was there sound check andthen he said, man, were still

(23:07):
doing it, and I said,that's up to you, and he wanted
to do it, so, um, you know, he had told me,
he said, I'm a big guy, I can't take it, so
you know, you really got tosell it, but don't kill me.
And uh, I mean I slappedhim. I mean go out of him,
bro. Yeah, I really.I don't think I've ever slapped anybody

(23:27):
like that in my life. SoI just kind of misjudged, you know,
how hard I needed to go.Um, I mean you definitely.
I think he was Okay, that'swhy we're all sitting there and we were
like at first we were like,okay, this is a cool prank.
You know, we're doing the willSmith you know, keep my wife's name
about your mouth there. And thenyou hit him. We're like, oh,

(23:48):
man, is this actually your prank? What are we doing? Yeah?
It was man. He told meto sell it. He said,
I'm a big guy, can takeit. Don't don't go out there,
and you know, so easily andso I didn't. But like I said,
I just never slapped anybody, sowhich is a good thing. But
that's awesome. You also got tomeet Vince Gill, like on the spot.

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What what did he say to youwhen you walked over to him?
Yeah, well, you know,when I walked upside said I saw him
sitting there, and I'm like,yeah, I've never met him before.
And I'm like, dude, noway am I about to do this in
front of him. This is goingto be his first you know, seeing
anything from me, and and soI wanted to back out last second.
And soon as I'm thinking that,Royce, you know, starts to be

(24:34):
also I've got to go out thereand do it anyway, I'm like,
there's no way this is how I'mabout to introduce myself to Vince Gill.
But luckily he loves a good jokeand thought it was funny. And then
came out and you know, I'dsaid I've never met Vince Gill before,
and he walked out and said,now he has so cool. That's awesome.
And you also, you didn't Jenksgetting your third number one and she

(24:57):
walked out on stage. You're like, I think country radio, you know,
my song is doing real well rightnow. I probably just Jinks getting
my third number one, But itdidn't happen. You got it, man,
Yeah, we got it. Andthat in a thousand in that country
radio, which is crazy for me. I never thought country radio would embrace
me and my fund and my soulatuncial music as much as they have.

(25:18):
But Y and I just hope Idon't let him down or anything like that.
You know, you want to deliverit and keep coming pretty strong.
So well, I mean, bro, you you've been killing it. And
I know Texas country artists always kindof have that that thought that Nashville is
not going to embrace him, butyou've been doing real well man. Yeah,

(25:41):
I think, yeah, you justdon't worry about that kind of stuff
and just keep your head down andright. You know, you write good
enough songs. You know, Ithink you can have success anywhere. So
that's really before I try to focuson it seems to be working, so
I gotta I gotta tell you this. I was actually mad at you before
I knew who you work. Iused to live in I used to live

(26:02):
in College Station from like twenty eighteento twenty twenty one, and I was
out at Northgate one night, Ithink it was like twenty eighteen, twenty
nineteen, and I was trying toget to Taco Bell at like one two
in the morning and there was somuch damn traffic in there because you sold
out Hurricane Harry's. Now. Iwas like, what's going on? And
people were like, Oh, we'recoming back from the Parker mccollumn show.

(26:26):
And I was like, who thehell is this dude stopping me from getting
a crunch wrap supreme right now?Man? Yeah? Man, that's uh.
Those days were I like to looka lot different than it, dude
back in those days. But OK, some good time, Sam. I
got you well, you're gonna bein Wilmington this June, and then you're
coming to Raleigh in September. We'relooking forward to having you. Is there

(26:48):
anything you want to say to thepeople get them hyped up? Oh?
Man? You know now it's twonights, so we got to take at
night on sale. First night soldout and hopefully the second one will is
well it's crazy kind of putting ittogether and swinging it that way. I'm
looking forward to it. Love beingin the Carolinas and they've always been really
good to us and been some ofthe biggest shows we've had that far away

(27:11):
from home. So looking forward toit. I got you well, Parker,
keep killing it. I appreciate youtaking us time to talk to me
man. Yeah, thanks Nick Coffee, sum Bro. Thanks to Cold Money
for cod Money, for Cold Moneyfor cod Money,
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