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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Jesse Kelly Show on seven ten Water.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
On Jesse Kelly Show, Let's have some fun on a Tuesday,
and it's going to be a different kind of a Tuesday.
So strap in and buckle up and let me tell
you what's in store for you tonight on the world

(00:35):
famous Jesse Kelly Show. First of all, I'm just gonna
lay out this warning right now. This first bit, maybe
the first hour, I don't know how long it's going
to take. Me is going to be a little bit heavy.
It is the anniversary today of Abby Gate. It is
weighing heavy on my heart. I have a lot I

(00:57):
want to say, trying to honor them, trying to condemn
those responsible, and we are going to walk through that.
I'm not going to forget and I'm not going to
let it go. We're gonna talk about that tonight, I know,
because that's going to be heavy. We're all gonna be
a little way down in a little bit, you me, everybody.
I'm gonna chop away at a bunch of really cool emails,

(01:19):
fun stuff, history stuff, all kinds of stuff afterwards, and
then we'll get onto some other news of the day.
A couple little items here little items there, Pam, Bonnie
doesn't want you getting hammered on a boat this weekend.
All that and so much more coming up on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. Yeah, Pam, you know freedom
is not free quit anyway. We'll get to that in

(01:40):
a little while, but let's first discuss military service sacrifice,
risking your life, losing your life on behalf of your nation,
or tried whatever, wherever you happen to live. There is
an old, old old saying that war is old men

(02:03):
talking and young men dying. It's an old saying. They
pulled that saying out in the movie Troy. If that's
where you heard that saying first, just know that's an
ancient proverb, much older than the movie Troy. Okay, but
I do think it's been thousands of years old. War
is old men talking and young men dying. Now, that
is not as insulting as it always sounds. That's just

(02:27):
the nature of how things are. As you get older,
Lord willing, you get wiser, but your body isn't. It's
not what it used to be, and so you need
to do more, the thinking, more the decision making. When
you're young, not as wise yet, not because you're stupid
or there's anything wrong with you. You just don't have

(02:49):
enough years under your belt yet, don't have enough experience.
You're not as wise maybe, but physically you are tip
top shape. And you as a young man and well
young women nowadays two as a young man, you have
those shoulders, legs, chest, You have that body in part

(03:11):
because you are made to defend things. Defend your home physically,
your woman, defend your town, your city, your country, and sometimes,
if you so choose, give up your life in service
to your country. That's the way things are. Young Men
have fought in wars since time immemorial, and have died

(03:32):
in wars since time began. That's the way it goes.
I understand that, and let me explain. Every single person
in uniform, especially frontline troops, they understand that, and they
understand that's part of the risk. Yes, if I sign up,
I may die. But whether we're talking about a big

(03:54):
country or a small tribe, I have always and will
always believe that the country itself, the government itself, owes
you two things. If you are one of the young
men or young women who will go die on behalf
of that country. Your country owes you two things. One,

(04:17):
your life that you're willing to give up for it
should not be thrown away. Should not be disregarded as nothing.
Oh yeah, look, they may order you to go do
something very very dangerous with the risk of death very
very high. Don't throw my life away like it's nothing.

(04:39):
Don't throw the life of a young soldier away like
it's nothing, because it's not nothing. That's a living, breathing
human being with parents, siblings, maybe a wife, children. Don't
take his willingness to sacrifice and abuse it and throw
it away, throw it away with incompetence, with evil, with corruption.

(05:02):
So that's one, don't throw the life away. And two,
if that young soldier does give up his life on
behalf of his country, honor him the old man who
did the talking, meaning the ones who gave the orders,
the ones who planned it. Honor the one who gave

(05:24):
up his life. He deserves that. Society deserves to know
his name, His fellow soldiers deserve to see you honoring him.
His family deserves to see that. Honor and respect the
ones who gave up their lives. I don't think that's

(05:45):
asking a lot of any country or any tribe. Don't
throw the life away, honor the sacrifice once it's been made.
The reason I am opening up the show tonight talking
about Abby Gate, I'm gonna try to remain quite calm.
If you listen to this show for a while, you'll
know that was the angriest I've ever been on the radio,

(06:05):
shouting into the microphone. I hate doing that. I don't
like doing angry radio. I'm going to try to stay
calm tonight. The reason I'm doing this tonight is both counts,
don't throw the life away and respect the sacrifice after
it's gone. On both counts, the Communists in the Biden administration,

(06:27):
in the State Department, in the intelligence community, in the
military community failed those troops who gave up their lives.
The young woman, a bunch of young men gave up
their lives for this country, and their lives were thrown
away by an evil, evil regime, by negligence by evil,

(06:50):
and afterwards, in the aftermath of it, and to this day,
nothing has been done to properly honor them. I do.
Before I go on the stuff, want to give a
nice shout out to Pete Hegseth and Donald Trump and JD.
Vance who welcomed them into the White House today honored them.
Here was a little bit of Pete hag this beautiful.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
Group on behalf of these families, on behalf of your
loved ones who fought for our nation. America deserves answers
as far as what happened in Afghanistan. The military needs
to answer for what happened in Afghanistan. So upon the
President's direction, immediately we initiated an investigation which showed that
they're needed an even deeper dive. So Sean Parnell, depending
on spokesman who himself is an Afghanistan veteran, is leading

(07:34):
this effort. It's a top priority for us. We're getting
access to all documents necessary, why decisions were made, why
they weren't made, why certain forced protection measures were ignored. Again,
there's never been accountability for this. It's something that Joe
Biden allowed to happen that never should have happened. Anybody
who any objective observer knows that's not how you leave
a country. And certainly these families no better than anyone else.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
These families deserve it. Sean Parnell was a good man.
Sean Parnell will dig down as deep as this hole
goes and Sean Parnell will get US answers and credit
to the Trump administration for digging into this. So let's
recap what happened. Let's talk about it to hold people accountable,
and let's talk about it to honor those who gave

(08:20):
up their lives. And I'm telling you right now, at
the end of all of this, I'm going to read
their thirteen names and we are going to play taps
in their honor. So Afghanistan, you know, we went there
Post nine to eleven to track down Osama bin Lad.
That was it was a big CIA special operations. It

(08:42):
was a big you know, tip of the Spear operation.
There's great, great material on that out there. Now we
know Osama bin Lan was there. We know Afghanistan was
really a hotbed for Jihati activity and still is, of course,
And so we went there to track down the man
response for bringing down the towers. But as is so

(09:05):
often the case, we didn't have a clear mission. Part
of the reason people fall in love with World War
two is the mission was so incredibly clear, and in
a lot of ways, it's really the last war we
had where the mission was clear. There that's Nazi Germany,

(09:27):
destroy them defeat them there, that's imperial to Japan. Destroy them,
Defeat them, that's the goal, unconditional surrender. You will be defeated.
And that clarity we find so refreshing, don't we, especially
in the wake of everything that happened after that Korea?
What are we doing? Okay, we ran them out of

(09:47):
the south, but now we're invading the north? Are we?
What are you doing? Vietnam? We started on that. Poor
guys over there talked about it all the time. What's
the mission? What are we doing? What's the end goal?
By Afghanistan? The lack of clarity we know now we
know courtesy of things like the Afghanistan Papers, which is

(10:09):
about the only decent thing the Washington Post has ever done.
We know clear back to Rumsfeld. They're sending memos to
each other. I'm not sure what the mission is now,
can't find him. What are we doing here? We'll continue
on in a moment. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a wonderful, fantastic Tuesday. Remember you can email us

(10:32):
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. And after I get
done dragging you down memory lane talking about Abby Gate, Afghanistan,
the four year anniversary. We'll get to a bunch of
those emails, maybe take a load off for a little bit,
But for now, we are going to discuss what happened.
We're going to discuss the sacrifice, the players to everything.

(10:52):
We are going to talk about this. We are not
going to let it go. We are not going to
forget Afghanistan. We end up going in there after Osama
bin Laden, but very very quickly the politicians and military
leaders lose sight of what we're actually doing. What are
we doing here? Why are we here? What is the

(11:15):
actual overall mission? All right, this unbelievably goes on for
twenty years. I still cannot believe that number. For twenty years,
we had our guys running around Afghanistan doing crazy things.

(11:37):
Some missions made sense, some missions did not. A lot
of blood was lost over there. Some things we would
we'd go put in a water well that was never used.
Sometimes we were told we weren't allowed to touch the
poppy fields, the heroin fields. In fact, we had American
troops guarding them. We had a Green Beret assault an

(12:02):
Afghani police chief who was assaulting a young boy, very
common practice in Afghanistan, and the Green Beret got in
trouble and what this did just I'm giving it to
you from somebody who participated in the old g Watt.
I was Iraq, not Afghanistan. And I'm telling you this

(12:23):
disillusioned veterans like you cannot possibly imagine. We watched betrayal
after betrayal after betrayal from our political and military leaders,
Republican and Democrat. The most I've told you this before,
the most revealing moment of my entire life was being
in the Iraq invasion, fighting our way through the country

(12:47):
and being told one day that the order came down
that we had to put away our American flags, telling
a legion of young patriotic marines that they had to
hide their American flags. I don't know that I've ever
seen the light go out of so many young marine's
eyes as I did that day. But this is what

(13:09):
happens when your country's led by a bunch of scumbags
who don't love it, don't care about anything but their
own power, their own wealth. And this went on for
twenty years in places like Afghanistan. Now, after twenty years,
see Obama wanted out of Afghanistan, at least he said

(13:30):
he did. Trump said he did too. Biden said, everybody
kept saying they wanted out, but we were not out
because it's not easy to get out when you've been
in a place for twenty years. You have a military base,
you have relationships, you have supply lines, you have all
these things. And one of the things we were doing

(13:52):
for twenty years was supposedly building up the Afghan forces
so they would be able to withstand the Taliban when
we did leave. But here's a little genius wrinkle brought
to you by America's military. We also force them to
be reliant on us, meaning yeah, you'll be able to

(14:15):
fight off the Taliban as long as we are here
providing X, Y, and Z. We essentially train them to
ride a bike with training wheels, and then decided all
at once to rip those training wheels away. Now, let's
discuss the decision itself to pull out the way Joe

(14:35):
Biden did, Because there is a way to egress from
a nation. There is a way to pull out. It
is not easy, but it is there is a way.
You have to do it carefully, slowly, one step at
a time. You essentially take one step at a time

(14:57):
backwards towards the door. You don't turn in towards the door.
You don't back up too fast or you'll fall. You
take one step out a time, just like you see
in the movies, backing out the door, slowly but surely.
But you see, that's not what the Biden administration wanted.

(15:17):
Why why the big hurry? Why just pull everyone out,
turn around and run for the door. Oh, I'm glad
you asked pull numbers approval ratings. We were approaching the
anniversary of nine to eleven, the twentieth anniversary nine to eleven.

(15:42):
The Biden administration wanted a good talking point. They wanted
a good parade, a good flowery, fluffy military video to
put out. They wanted Joe Biden to look like the
man who finds got us out of Afghanistan. So, against

(16:03):
all the advice in the world, they simply sent the
memo out and said, hey, leave, Oh oh okay, when
oh now, what do you mean now? Like right now?
Leave everywhere? Yeah? Well, what about all the equipment we have?
Leave it? Uh? What about the terrorists we're currently holding?

(16:25):
Isis terrorists currently holding being detained in Boga Mare Base.
Oh I don't care. Leave for poll numbers for approval
ratings so they could send out a nice tweet. That's
why we left. We'll pick up the story from there
in a moment. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on

(16:49):
a Tuesday, a wonderful Tuesday, as we walk through Afghanistan
Abbey gate to pull out what happened, as we try
to honor the sacrifice, try to hold people accountable on
the fourth anniversary of all of it. So Joe Biden,
because he wanted and I know when I say Joe
Biden as always, just know that's a placeholder. He didn't

(17:11):
want anything. It was the dirty, filthy communists who hate
America all around him. That was the only people making decisions.
So Joe Biden decided he wanted a flowery photo op
for the anniversary of September eleventh. He yanked all of
our troops out, emptied the place overnight, without doing it
smartly at all. What happens. The Afghan forces that we

(17:34):
had supposedly been training for years started to collapse almost immediately.
The Taliban were ready. Of course, they were given a
heads up that we were leaving. The Taliban were ready,
and they began to conquer region after region immediately. Now,
the people of Afghanistan are intimately familiar with how the

(17:56):
Taliban operate and what they do. The Taliban barbarism is infamous.
Everybody knows about it. The way they treat women, the
way they treat children. They're big on the whole torture thing, execution. Chris,
You people don't fare very well there. Neither do Christians.
By the way, the Taliban are evil. They are the
spawn of Satan, and people begin to panic. Afghan people

(18:21):
begin to panic, and they start to flood towards whatever
Americans are left in the country, saying save us, get
us out, because they know a life of torture and
death is imminent for them. Get us out, Save us please.
So we are treated as Afghanistan is falling, we are

(18:46):
treated to scenes that are rough. To put it mildly,
a runway full of panic to afghanis crowding around sea
one thirties in some cases, so they're holding on to
the landing gear before plummeting to their death high above
the runway. It's an ugly, awful scene, very reminiscent of

(19:11):
when we were pulling our final troops out of Vietnam.
The panicked people of Vietnam knowing what's going to happen
when the communist savages finally have control over everything? A
level of fear that I hope you will never know,
and frankly, I hope I will never know. They're scared
to death. Now now the Biden administration is scrambling. They're

(19:35):
scrambling because well, one everyone went on vacation. Everyone went
on vacation, Joe Biden, our Secretary of State, Anthony Blincoln,
even the White House Press Secretary. They left as Afghanistan

(19:55):
was collapsing. Then the outrage starts to pour in. Their
ozones are blowing up. What are you doing? What is
happening over there? And they dragged Joe Biden out and
this when he sat down with noted communist propagandist George Stephanopolis.
This was the answer from the President of the United
States of America. As people were dropping from sea one thirty.

(20:19):
We've all seen the pictures. Who've seen those hundreds of
people packed into a C seventeen, We've seen Afghan's fall
was four.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
Days ago, five days ago.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
I was four or five days ago. Why are you
bringing up old stuff? Well, now here's what's happening inside
of the White House. Remember This was supposed to be
a flowery photo op. This was supposed to be a
great moment. Look at who pulled us out of Afghanistan.
Uh Oh, the public's mad about something. What are we
going to do? They come up with the most kakamami

(20:54):
plan I've ever heard in my life. Pause for a
moment before we get to the plan. Let me talk
about the detention center on Bogram Air Base. You see
the men we were holding there were some of the
most committed Jihadis on the planet. One of those men,

(21:14):
he was an Isis guy. He had been previously captured
in India. He was in India getting ready to carry
out a terrorist attack in New Delhi. The Indians, by
the grace of God, found him first, grabbed him up,
deported him. We got our hands on him and threw

(21:35):
him in a cage in Bogram Air Base. When the
Biden administration abandoned Bagram Air Base, imagine the moment the
Taliban are walking through our air base and they come
across this detention place with a bunch of committed demons
who were willing to commit murder against Americans. They grabbed
the keys, open up the gates, and then there's a

(21:59):
meeting between ISIS between al Qaeda. They were part of this.
In fact, the bin Laden family is part of this.
Did you know this ISIS, al Qaeda and the Taliban
had high level meetings about planning an attack. How do
we hurt these Americans? How do we blow up these troops?

(22:20):
Now back to our kokam Amy plan. Instead of an
air base which is very secure, and let me clarify
this for civilian types who may not understand. Why is
a military air base like Bogram secure but a civilian
airport is not secure. A military air base is surrounded

(22:40):
by walls, surrounded by towers, and in order to gain
entry to it, because we've learned over years and years
and years of dealing withchie hotties, to gain entry to it,
you don't just drive right up a road right up
to the gate and maybe you get a big truck
full of explosives and you blow through the gate or
blow up the gate or something like that. No no, no, no, no,

(23:02):
no no, that's not how it works at all. You
have different barrier systems set up that force vehicles to
weave their way through gigantic concrete sandbag barriers. Cant Basically
you have prevented. You have prevented, for the most part,
any kind of a large suicide bomb attack that can

(23:23):
hurt a lot of personnel inside the air base. Maybe
you'll get the people guarding the gates. That certainly happens,
but for the most part, the base is secured. We've
learned how to avoid suicide tactics. But that has to
be done not just with troops, because troops, all of them,
even the toughest in the world, they're just flesh and blood.
It has to be done with hard infrastructure, walls, concrete pillboxes, sandbags, towers.

(23:50):
This is how you protect yourself against gihatis, with suicide
vests and trucks full of ammonium nitrate. This is how
it is done, and that's what we had at Bagram.
But the geniuses in the Biden administration and the military
and the State Department and the intelligence community, we can't
let any of them off the hook. They just decided
to open up the whole freaking thing and give it

(24:14):
back to the Taliban. Now we have to go to
the airport, the regular old civilian airport. Let me ask
you something. Your airport, the airport in your community, how
secure is it Oh no, no, don't get wrong. I
know there are metal detectives and things like that, But

(24:34):
what's surrounding the airport in your area? Now, this is America.
In your area. At best, at best, there is a
chain link fence that is the ultimate security physically keeping
people out of your airport runway. Am I off? Am
I wrong about that?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
At all?

Speaker 2 (24:52):
At best, that's what you have. Now. We have legions
of frightened people an airport that cannot possibly be properly secured,
and we send Marines, sailors and army soldiers into there

(25:13):
to try to sort through the mess. So the Biden
administration doesn't have the bad optics they had four or
five days ago when Afghani's were dropping from the sky.
We sent the troops in for optics, and we didn't
give them at all the infrastructure they needed to ensure

(25:36):
the worst couldn't happen. And while all this was going on,
Taliban isis al Qaeda operatives were meeting figuring out how
to kill our guys. We'll continue next.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Is the Jesse Kelly Show. That's not old man music, Chris,
that's good music. You wouldn't know anything about that, You
gen z dark sorry. I get upset with Jewish producer
Chris sometimes when he insults Motown.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Who doesn't like Motown? Everybody likes Motown. You're crazy, Chris.
Back to what we were discussing. Don't distract me. We'll
get to other things emails. I'll move off this whenever
I'm done with it. I'm not in a hurry. We're
talking about what happened the fourth anniversary of Abbey Gate.
So what did happen that day? First of all, don't

(26:22):
think for one single second that we didn't know there
were bad guys about, And don't think for a second
that we didn't identify the bad guy before he incinerated
thirteen of our troops with ball bearings. I'm going to
play a couple things for you. United States Marine Corps

(26:46):
Sergeant I believe he was Stat. Sargan, maybe was Sergeant
Vargas Andrews. He's describing the attack here.

Speaker 4 (26:53):
It was about seventeen thirty STAP Sergeant Darren Hoover's friend
and mentor.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
By the way, this is a minute in forty two seconds.
I don't think I will interrupt it, just out of
respect that if I have to clarify something, I may
interrupt it, but I want him to have his piece.

Speaker 4 (27:09):
About seventeen thirty stap Sergeant Darren Hoover, friend and mentor,
came to get me from the tower to go help
find an Afghan interpreter in the crowd. We found the

(27:34):
interpreter and his brother, born with American passports. They told
us five told us of five family members still in
the canal. I stayed there waiting for the family members,
standing against a two foot canal wall. Ten minutes past.
Then a flash and a massive wave of pressure. I'm

(27:54):
throwing twelve feet onto the ground, but instantly knew what
had happened. I opened my eyes to marine's dead or
conscious lying around me. A crowd of hundreds immediately vanished
in front of me, and my body was catastrophically wounded,

(28:15):
with one hundred, one hundred and fifty ball bearings now
in it. Almost immediately we started taking fire from the neighborhood,
and I saw how injured I was, with my right
arm completely shredded and unusable. I saw my lower abdomen
soaked in blood. I crawled backwards seven feet, roughly seven

(28:40):
feet because I thought I was still in harms away.
My body was overwhelmed from the trauma of the blast.
My abdomen had been ripped open. Every inch of my
exposed body except from my face to ball bearings shrapnel.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Now, who was it that had that bomb? And could
we have stopped it beforehand? Here he was?

Speaker 4 (29:04):
I requested for the battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Brad Whited,
to come to the tower to see what we did.
While we waited for him, psychological operations individuals came to
our tower immediately and confirmed the suspect met the suicide
bomber description. He eventually arrived and we showed him our evidence,
the photos we had of the two men. We reassured
him of the ease of fire on the suicide bomber. Pointedly,
we asked him for engagement authority and permission. We asked

(29:26):
him if we could shoot. Our battalion commander said, and
I quote, I don't know end quote. Myself and my
team leader asked, very harshly, well who does, because this
is your responsibility, sir. He again replied he did not know,
but would find out. We received no update and never
got our answer. Eventually, the individual disappeared. To this day,
we believe he was a suicide bomber. We made everyone

(29:47):
on the ground to where operations had briefly halted but
then started again, plain and simple, we were.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Ignored, ignored. Hey sir, here's a suicide bomb. Can I shoot?
I don't know, well could you? Could you maybe find out?
Never gets back to his troops. This is another thing
We're not just going to dump all over the Biden administration,

(30:15):
which of course we are going to do. The military
leadership in this country is a disgrace. The rot has
been going on for years, in years and years, and
now our brave troops on the ground are oftentimes led
by the biggest bunch of scumbed, dork idiot losers in

(30:36):
the country. You see that uniform that says general admiral
in immediately your respect level goes up. I sneer because
I assume that's a dirtball politician wearing a military uniform
who would sell his troops up the river in a

(30:57):
heartbeat if it meant one more star on his caller.
That's what I assume, and I'm correct about ninety nine
percent of the time in this country. How in the world,
as a battalion commander, how does a battalion commander look
at a Marine Corps scout sniper who had identified the

(31:18):
suicide bomber ahead of time, and say, I don't know.
I'll tell you right now. I had several battalion commanders
in my four years in the Marine Corps, and every
one of them, I guarantee you to a man would
have said kill him immediately, I'll deal with the aftermath. No,
go kill him, shoot him now. That's what I had

(31:41):
in two thousand to two thousand and four. By the
time twenty twenty came around, we get I don't know,
I'll find out, and never even makes a phone call
to come back, doesn't so much as get on the
radio and say leave. Says nothing pathetic. And after our

(32:04):
thirteen warriors died, the American people, hoping that maybe briefly
we had a commander in chief, waited for Joe Biden
to take the podium that night. Joe Biden took the
podium that night after having thrown away the lives of

(32:25):
thirteen brave warriors. And this is how it went.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
Unattacked by a group known as vices K, took the
lives of American service members standing guard at the airport
and wound it several others. Seriously, we have so much.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
To do.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Within our capacity to do it. We just have to
remain steadfast, steadfast, ladies and gentlemen. They gave me a
list here. The first person I was instructed to call
on was Kelly O'donnald NBC.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
They gave me a list here, the first person I
was instructed to call on. Now, why were the communist
animals in charge of the country, Why were they giving
Joe Biden specific instructions on which reporter to call on,
Because even in the wake of the death of thirteen

(33:28):
brave souls, they were still just worried about optics, still
worried about poll numbers, still worried about approval ratings. We'll
wrap this up and play taps for the Fallen next
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