Best of Segments Hour 2

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly Show.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
I'm so nerding out right now that a half hour
from now we get to talk to a veteran of
the Rhodesian Bush War.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
I'm having trouble staying focused. My focus is just stay
focused and don't shake your head.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Chris, shut up, Chris.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
I love that we added that on there. That's my
new favorite sound bite. Chris. I'm gonna text people about it. Well,
did you get that email? Chris? From the guy?

Speaker 2 (00:29):
Sorry, we'll get back to politics in a minute. Somebody
wrote in an email and had his kid or his
nephew figure out how to put that. People be texting.
It's now the text notification on his phone. Chris, Can
you do that for me?

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Do you know what? Corey? You can someone do that?
Do you know how to do that? Is it?

Speaker 2 (00:47):
No one knows how to do that. We need some
young people in this office. This is the problem. We
need youngk what Chris, don't I have two kids? Yeah,
but I worry that they're more like me. You know what,
James could probably do it. Oh, make James do it.
He'll figure it out, all right. First of all, two
good things before we get back to some other stuff. Headline,

(01:09):
heg Seth, the Secretary of warptex Seth is planning a
huge shakeup at the top of military command. That is
incredibly important and necessary. As we were just discussing last hour,
the long march through the institutions. Well, the communists didn't
exempt the military from that. They wanted it, they knew

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they had to have it, and they went and got it.
They attacked our military. We have so many commie generals,
commie admirals, so many of them throughout our service academies
now again doing what being subversive, fighting for the revolution.
Cleaning them out is going to be a very long,

(01:52):
very difficult process, and it is extremely necessary and I
mean extremely necessary. So that's a good thing, something you
can feel good about. Here's something else. The federal government
has shed two hundred and seventy one thousand jobs this year.
I know we have concerns. I know we have things

(02:13):
that we want done, things that aren't being done. I
get that. Then all that stuff is legitimate. Look, I
just criticized everybody yesterday. Man, do you think we'd have
gotten rid of two hundred and seventy one thousand federal
government jobs? If Kamala Harris was president. No, we would not. No,
we would not. Now I have to play this bit

(02:35):
because it just makes me laugh. This is Zoran Mandhani.
He's the incoming mayor of New York City talking about
free buses center.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
We made five bus routes free in New York City.
When we made those bus routes free, after a year,
assaults on bus drivers dropped by thirty eight point nine
percent on the bus driver. The bus drivers because unlike
the train, the act of fair collection on the bus
happens on the It's live, and.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
They are actually going to claim that bus drivers will
get assaulted less when they make the bus free. Let's
have a little chat, shall we before we get back
to politics. And it's ugly to have this conversation, but
I don't care. I'm ugly wait on the inside. On

(03:26):
the inside, I'm ugly, So let's have it. Access Access
is h It's one of those things you need to
monitor in life. And if you ever find yourself in
a place that lets everybody in, you will find the
biggest bunch of scumbags in low lifes in your area

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every single time. If you want to get me to
not go somewhere, and you know I'm cheap. I'm not
Jewish producer Chris cheap, but I'm cheap. If you want
to guarantee that I will not go somewhere, make it
free or and I've learned this lesson after forty four years,
you're just gonna have to trust me. Or half price Day.
They have this place here locally, and it's one of

(04:11):
these kind of kids paradise places. They're all over the country,
so you have one close to you as well that
has a bowling and laser tag and arcade games and pizza.
You know, it's kids paradise. Of course, we walked in
that we had been there before. It took the boys there.
Then it was a Wednesday, I believe. We went there
with the boys and it was more scumbags and ghetto

(04:36):
trash than you've ever seen in your entire life. Couldn't
figure it out until we walked up to buy our
tickets and they said, oh, hey, it's half price Day.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I'm glad you're here.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
They're going to make the buses free in New York
City and it's going to be so freaking bad. It
just there's nothing these people cannot ruin there's absolutely nothing
these people cannot ruin. All right now, I'm going to
play something for you. It's ilhan Omar, and I love

(05:10):
that she's in so much pain right now. I mean,
this is about by the way, this is about Trump's
new travel band. He added a bunch of more Muslim
countries to the travel band.

Speaker 4 (05:19):
The biggest worry of the new executive order is that
it does separate families. It doesn't create an exception for
you as citizens to have their family members be able
to come visit and celebrate milestones with them. And so
this is a very cruel.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Oh well, let me clarify. We don't want your family
members here. We don't want them to visit. We certainly
don't want them to live here. I don't want to
smell a single one of ilhan Omar's family members. In fact,
if I ever take power in this country, ilhan Omar
in all of her family will not just be banned

(05:58):
from this country. I'll do poor anybody they know who's
in the country. That's how bad it's going to be
one day. But again, the communists understand who's the bread
and butter of their revolution. Here's Steve Cohen.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
They're arresting people simply for the offense of being in
the country illegally. It's not right, but it's not necessarily
something should cause deportation when they are not committing crimes
and they are attributing to the economy.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
So that's a concern we have.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
They're arresting and deporting people for being in the country illegally.
That is a controversial position for the modern Democrat Party.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
Oh, he had more to say.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Memphis is not an immigration center of crimes from most
of the people that are there that are immigrants, even
if they did you come into the country illegally, most
of them are working legally and doing a lot of
important work in Memphis and construction industry, the tourism industry,
and they're necessary and needed.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
They just prefer foreigners over you. It's pregernorable, frinorable.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Hey, Jesse, thanks for the outstanding Another outstanding history lesson,
this time about the Rhodesian Bush War. I am so
disappointed in the West, especially the US, for failing to
support Rhodesia against the black communist factions. I understand now
why my long education never included this disgraceful debacle of
a pop prosperous nation.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah, that's why. Look, that's why your.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
School teachers never taught you about Rhodesia because they were
on the side of the communist terrorists who were butchering people.
They were on the side they viewed them as as
their kinsmen, the communist terrorists who destroyed a once beautiful,
prosperous country. I know it's hard to accept, but there's

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a good chance your history teacher wants to do the
exact same thing here and and will do anything in
his or her power to make that happen. It's a
terrible state of affairs. But this is why this stuff
doesn't get taught in schools.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Jesse.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
This is about healthcare costs. I now paid twenty seven
thousand dollars a year for good coverage for my family.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
Good grief.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
My pot is simmering and about to boil. The whole
system seems so messed up, from the hospitals to the
drug companies to the insurance providers. Can this ever get fixed?
Are there ways to opt out of the system and
into something that will cover a family without paying extra
for abortions and trans grap and illegals. Paying for healthcare

(08:23):
is now a full time job. It is unbelievable what
health insurance now costs in this country. I can only
tell you what I've looked into, Okay, and I'm not
an expert because I haven't done it right. What I've
looked into getting out of the insurance run medical industry,

(08:45):
meaning concierge medicine. And it sounds expensive, and it is expensive,
there's no question about it. But it's not that much
more expensive than having health insurance now. And that number
is going to get better as more and more people
chafe against the health insurance industry, which, of course the

(09:07):
government's screwed up. Remember it's not the insurance companies. It
was all this Obamacare exchanges and everything else that's screwed
it up, that screwed up our health insurance industry. Now
there are doctors in doctor's offices, and there's change of
these things now, multiple chains across the country that do
concierge metis, which means no insurance. You'd pay something like

(09:27):
a monthly fee or something like that. But what I've
warned about repeatedly, and what you can totally see happening now,
is this is going to make good healthcare only something
rich people get and that was previously not like that
in the country. The last time I had to go
to the hospital, I was mortified, not just by the

(09:50):
conditions by the staff. Were there some lovely nurses, of course?
Was there a good doctor? I don't know, none of
the ones I've saw. It was a bunch of dirt balls, rude, dumb, freaking, terrible,
bad state of affairs.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Wednesday
hop day.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
You can email us.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com, ten minutes away from
our veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War. Can't wait to
talk to him. But let me go ahead and address
the elephant in the room. So Dan Bongino, Deputy Director

(10:38):
of the FBI. Dan Bongino came out today. There were
rumors swirling already, but he came out today, made it official.
Trump kind of let the cat out of the bag.
I think he's leaving. Dan said, hey, January, I'm leaving.
And a bunch of people were asking my thoughts on
it and say no, I know.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Dan.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
So hey, Chris, if you wouldn't mind, I would like
to hear what I said back in July. So here
it is. Do you remember what I told you about
Dan Bongino and the FBI. But I wake up every
day and I look at my phone for maybe a

(11:18):
text message or maybe just a headline dan Bongino stepping down.
If Dan Bongino steps down, especially if it's over the
next year, it can't be saved. He doesn't believe he
can save it, because he's not gonna sit there and
do nothing. If he throws his hands up and says,
screw it, I'm done, that'll tell you it can't be fixed.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I I don't know all of his reasons. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Maybe he just misses being you know, on the radio
or wherever he's going to go back to. He's going
to be a huge success wherever he goes back to.
I don't know all his reasons. But I told you
a long time ago that was my concern. My concern
is that that institution I was about to call it organization,

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that that institution is far beyond saving. That it is
such a criminal institution now after years and years of
communist infiltration, it is such a criminal institution that maybe
you can nibble a little on the edges here and
nibble a little on the edges there. And obviously you

(12:32):
can do some good things. I mean, the only reason
we have the pipe bomber now is because Bongino, right.
You can do some good things, but all you can
do is nibble around the edges.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
Because at its core it is.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
An evil communist criminal organization, and I do not believe
it can be fixed. I don't It should be defunded,
disbanded in its entirety. It should and as I've said
many many times before, I believe that the FBI will

(13:07):
be one of the main driving forces between whatever you
want to call it, secession, rebellion, something in the future
in this country, because the communists are going to keep
sending FBI agents into states, into people's homes. They're going
to keep sending SWAT teams to arrest pastors, and one

(13:28):
day some red states may actually get some guts and
say no, you're not allowed to come in, No you're
not allowed to do this, And that is going to
put a state versus the federal government. And it's easy
to see how that could kick the whole thing off.

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We can't take half measures with communist institutions.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
We want to I want to do with the right
worry of it.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
You cannot take half measures with communist institutions.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
By the way, Chris, what are the are these shekels
you put on my thing? What are these things? Is this
what you people call shekels? Is that what it is?

Speaker 6 (14:09):
What?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Playing with the drad ol? What's a dradol? Again, Chris,
I didn't. You don't have to insult me like I
know everything.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I know my campaign manager was Jewish. I didn't go
over the whole Torah with him. I don't know everything
about everything. Okay, you know he did not well, I
mean no, I didn't get invited to any holidays. Definitely
not After the time I asked him if matzabal soup
had mozzarella in it. I was always under the impression

(14:43):
that it did. He was mortified. He thought, what did
he say? I think he said to me, that's the
most goy thing I've ever heard in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I don't care.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
His mother loved me. She was an angel. What, Chris,
Matza ball soup sucks. I know, oh, all your food sucks.
But I'm sorry. And by the way, don't sell me
on the potato cake things. Everybody else does that too.
You can't claim that you people can't claim that bagels
are admittedly phenomenal. A good I'll make this argument, A

(15:17):
good everything bagel with bacon, egg, and cheese on it.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
What, Chris, Oh yeah, I forgot.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You can't eat some of that and a little bit
of mayo or miracle whip if you want to class
it up a little bit. That is the best breakfast
on the planet. It's better than biscuits and gravy. It's
better than waffles. It's better than anything else you can
come up with. A good It's better than steak and eggs, Chris,
A good, A good bacon, egg and cheese.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
Baker.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
You wouldn't know because you're from Texas, buddy, And I
know you're Jewish, but the Jewish food sucks here. Actually,
you do make good bagels. I take that back, so
maybe you would know. Now you don't know much about bacon,
egg and cheese, not like I do. But maybe you
can have like goat, egg and cheese.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
What.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Goat's not bad, Chris, It's really not bad anyway. Jewish
food's terrible, Buddy. It's just dreadful, dreadful. That great comedian
Sebastian Maniscalo has He's obviously Italian, has a hilarious stand
up routine about that, making it basically bragging about Italian
food and making fun of Jewish food. I think his name,

(16:29):
you've never heard of him, Sebastian Maniscalo. He's got eight
thousand TV specials out there. He's really really funny. Hey,
I have no idea why I'm talking about this right now. Oh,
it's because of the shekels you put here that say
Happy Hanukkah on them, and apparently there's chocolate in here
or something like that. But thanks for the shekels, Chris. Now,

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let's go talk to a veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War.

Speaker 1 (16:53):
Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show. Chris Buddy picked
his song. I like this guy. It's freaking awesome.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
So obviously, as we've been discussing over the past week,
I did a multi part thing on the Rhodesian Bush War.
But I'm just a dumb American from Ohio. I'm a
white trash kid from Ohio. What do I know about
the Rhodesian Bush War? Just what I read?

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Right.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
I'm blessed enough that we had someone reach out to
the show who knew someone who was there, a veteran
of the Rhodesian Bush War, who will's probably forgotten much
more about it than I will ever know, And I
thought it would just be a wonderful perspective. So now
allow me to introduce Buddy Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian

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Bush War. Buddy, but before we get into the war
and everything, tell me about your family.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
Oh, I grew up on a farm. Okay, I was
the original gomer pile. They've done a dairy farm. Never
went anywhere until I went to Paras Island.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
How about that? Now, out you're a farm boy, you
go to Paris Island, then you end up in Rhodesia.
How does that happen?

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Well?

Speaker 6 (18:09):
No, no, I went. I went into Marines. I did
my four years. I liked it. I like the Marines.
I had a good time. Uh faught of the twenty
six Marines and Quaison. I went back, UH flew helicopters
when HTMM won sixty one. It's a gunner. That was

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quite a change from being a ground founder and division.
But it was all good.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
Now we can't just fast forward past being a freaking
marine in Quaison.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Tell us about Kaison.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
Do you ever go up there? It's beautiful? I don't uh.
When I landed there August sixty seven, when I got
off the plane, I looked around and for those that
are listening and events, it's been there. It was dark,
kind of foggy, but it's beautiful, right on the the

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ocean border. And I was there almost seven months, and
I was lucky enough to have been all gone all
the way out to Long Bay, which was the Special
Forces camp that got overrun during the fight, and it
was just beautiful territory. I mean, that's all I can say.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
Now. The fight itself, it's hard for.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Me to explain to people what it's like when an
artillery round of any kind lands close to you. I
have attempted to explain it had happened to me in Iraq,
but someone at que San would know far more about
it than I would tell people about what it's like
to be under artillery.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
Fire from my own personal perspective. To your pardon my language,
the pucker factor goes up. That was not the first
time I had been under artillery the rocket fire. Been
there a couple of times up and dog huh really

(20:18):
caught it up there. I fought but when they started
hitting using case on which would have been January twenty first,
they were so accurate they was scary. The base is
not very big. You can go online and look at it.
It's not a big base. And what you listen for

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is your guys shooting back. That gives you a little
bit of satisfaction because when you're down there in the
hole and there's nothing you can do, but when your
guns go off, and that would be the thirteenth Marines
when they started returning fire, it really felt good.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Yeah, it feels good to give it back to them.
So I know it's kind of a dumb question, but
how does one even sleep when you are surrounded by
the enemy. You know, you're surrounded, things are exploding all
the time. How do you even get any shut high?

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Did you?

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Yes, it's I'm sure there's other guys that have been
the same situation. But you get to the point you're tired,
and I would I had an M sixty, and I
had an outside fighting hole right at the flight line
of the runway, and I would pull a poncho over

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me in the M sixty and sit on the two
cases of ramo and bring the gun up close to me,
and when the pancho had the top tied off, it's
the fog would miss just like being in Rain. And
I'm sleep like a baby.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
I forgot what it was like to be that's freaking tired.
All right.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Now, for the reason you're joining us again, we're speaking
to Buddy Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War and
obviously the Vietnam War as well. Buddy, how do you
end up in Rhodesia.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I do not want to sound too corny, but I
think one thing I missed was the camaraderie of the military.
And after I got to reading about it what was
going on, said crap, you know this is a real thing.

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It's bad guys over there. And I said, okay, I'm
gonna do this. Let's do it now. I had missed
the seventy three war in Israel because it didn't last
very long. And I've been so used to traveling with
without a passport because I worked for the sand Well,
the first thing I did after the Israeli war was

(23:08):
get a passport, duh. And I just one day woke
up and said, okay, that's it. I said, I'm out
of here. I should have gone. About a year and
a half earlier, my dad had passed away and I
had responsibilities here, and by then everything was good, had

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my mom taken care of my bills were all Tata
didn't know nothing anymore and just wanted to get over
there and get into it all right. So it doesn't
sound too goofy.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Doesn't sound goofy at all. I just had them meet
up with my marine buddies last year because I missed
the camaraderie. It's nothing goofy about at all. Anybody who's
been in that knows exactly what you're talking about. Now
we'll try to walk through this step by step overview wise. First,
what is Rhodesia? What is the state of the war
when Buddy Lily gets there?

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Not good?

Speaker 1 (24:08):
What year is this?

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Pardon sir?

Speaker 1 (24:11):
What year is this?

Speaker 6 (24:13):
This would be September of seventy nine. Okay, they were
still fighting and they were still winning. The sas and
a light infantry would doing a lot of raids over
in mozam Beak, which I would tell the readers that

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are interested to they can find some books on it
to read on it. These guys were really good of
what they did on the incursions in the Mozam Beak,
but they were still hitting when I got there, because
we had a safe house where we kept our gear
at and I was walking in there one day and

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two aircraft came over so low, and this nice lady
it was there, noticed, Oh, they're going to Mosam Beach,
you know, just like that. Looked like it was no
big deal.

Speaker 1 (25:09):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
Okay, So buddy, if you don't mind, if I'm just
so grateful you're giving us your time before I start
to dig into you, the training, when you got there,
everything else. I have to go to a commercial break
and then we'll come back and we'll talk some more
about this if you have time.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
You had some more time for me.

Speaker 6 (25:26):
Buddy, Yes, sir, I'm here as long as you want me.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (25:31):
Man Simper five, Buddy, Lily veteran of the Rhodesian Bush War,
gonna come break some more of it down for us.
I scannot believe how much this topic has taken off
with you. So look I love it too. I'm geeking
out over here. I told Jewish producer Chris before the
show even started.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I told him I'm just gonna nerd out.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
I can't believe we have an actual veteran of the
war here to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
We'll be back.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnet magnificent Wednesday,
a hunt Day, and we are still joined by Buddy Lilly,
veteran of the Rhodesian Bushwar and Vietnam the United States Marine.
All right, Buddy, we kind of fast forwarded through something
that actually I'm curious about. You wanted the camaraderie, you

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wanted to go fight the bad guys in Rhodesia. But
I would venture to guess you didn't just buy a
plane ticket and show up and knock knock on someone's
door over there.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
How does that work? Do you? How does it work
to even get recruited? How did you get signed up?

Speaker 6 (26:34):
Jesse? You don't know how close you just came. I
had been in touch with the recruiter from the Light
Infantry sometime before that. But when I decided to go,
I went and bought a ticket, loaded my bags up,

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went on over and when I landed there, I said, well,
I'm here, Now what am I gonna do? And you
hit it just about on the head.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
You So, whose door did you knock on? Buddy.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Let me sell you this on a serious, serious note.
The Rhodesian people are the most polite you'll ever meet.
On the plane, I was, well, I flew from just
for information, not to be born you, but from New York.
He had to fly into Yoberg and then they would

(27:35):
push you on air Rhodesia. And when I got to Yoberg,
gentlemen came over to me and I said, oh, this
is not good. He said, we've got your bag, sir.
They're a little heavy, but we're gonna load them for you.
Go right ahead. I kid you not, sir, And he
said they're head and I said they're tools. He said,

(27:57):
I understand. And I got on a plane. I sat
next to the Rhodesian gentleman who was coming back from Canada,
and we had a wonderful talk. He filled me in
on things and offered me his home to stay at,

(28:19):
gave me his telephone number when we got to when
we landed in Salisbury. When we landed there, he took
me to a hotel. He said, if you don't like this,
please call me. And I was just I just said, gee,
this is it's like being in the country in the USA.

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These people are some friendly and polite. The other first
person I met was the customs guy with a big
grin says, you want to join the army? And I said,
I just got here. Can you give me a break?
And I really was like that. Everybody was just helpful.

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That's all I can tell you.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Okay, So you get yourself checked in at the Rhodesian
Best Western or whatever hotel you were checked in.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
At, and not quite close.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Where do you go?

Speaker 6 (29:16):
Then?

Speaker 2 (29:16):
Do you go have a night or two out on
the town chasing down Rhodesian women?

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Do you what's next?

Speaker 6 (29:23):
Well, the gentleman from the customs gave me his number
and asked me to give him a call. As it was,
they only lived about six or eight blocks from the
hotel I was at, which was not a flea bag.
It was okay, but it was not the Monomatapa, which
I could see across town, which I couldn't afford, thank you,

(29:46):
but it was nice. So I called this gentleman up
walk to their house and you got to imagine, now
this is downtown Salt, very beautiful town was and I'm
carrying ar in my back. Nobody except at fact it's
an ar, and they don't see art fifteen. They don't

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see too many of them. But I looked around and said, gee,
everybody's carrying guns around here. I mean, seriously, I'm not
exaggerating a whole lot. And anyway, I got to this
gentleman's house and his girlfriend worked for the courts, the
Criminal Investigation Division, so she sent me over to see

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one of the supervisors the next day who want to
scale one to ten? Was about an eight and a half.
But she sent me to a couple places for interviews.
I mean, I'm on my second day there. This is
how fast things were moving. And I was offered a

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couple jobs and I did not feel comfortable taking a
cup of them because I I didn't know the AO,
I didn't know all the customs. The responsibility I would
have had did not line up with my knowledge of
the country if you know where I'm coming from. So

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I ended up going to work for Well. I had
an interview with Anglo American, which was a pretty big corporation,
and went to work for the Forest Management Service. The
gentleman in charge, the big boss, took me to his

(31:34):
house for lunch. I was just flabbergasted. I know it
sounds crazy, but gave me a long talk, took me down,
made sure my driver's license would be okay in Rhodesia.
Said be at the office at one o'clock. You're going
out on a convoy. And next thing I knew, I

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was hired.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So we're gonna pause before we get to the convoy.
This is something actually I did not tell everyone. When
I was discussing the Rhodesian Bush War. You brought it up.
I've seen the pictures of it. That women would walk
around with weapons. It was it was such a dangerous
place that just everybody was armed.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
Did you see that, Yes, sir, I mean you didn't
always do it, but it wasn't unusual to pass somebody
with a you know, with an fal on their back.
Everybody over there had to be a citizen soldier, male
or female. You did not know when or if mcgoby's

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boys were gonna pop in there and do something. They
weren't as bad as the terrorist star nowadays. They didn't
hit the big cities much, but you had to be
prepared anyway, and those people were prepared some of the
later on one of the hotels and I'm where I
worked out of Oh I forgot to tell you that much. Uh,

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I forgot something.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
It's okay, It's okay, buddy. It's because we're about to
take a break. And then when we get back, you're
gonna tell us everything, because I'm just gonna continue to
bore you with questions because I'm so fascinating right now.

Speaker 1 (33:17):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 2 (33:18):
Buddy, Lily, veteran of the Rhodesian bush War as promised,
is here giving us is time killing it. By the way, Buddy,
cannot tell you how much I appreciate this. So we
are gonna take a little quick break. When we come back.
I know this is the next hour. Buddy, Lily's gonna
give us some more wisdom.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Hang on,