Guest Host Lidia Curanaj talks about DEI

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my
That's Gavin Rossdale machine Head Blush better than the rest
three two red mushine I've seen. I've gone in to
see him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can tell
I'm a millennial, right. My first concert I ever went

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to in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,
I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia
Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can
follow me on social media at Lydia News l I
d I A n e WS, and you can watch
me on Newsmax.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
I was a.

Speaker 1 (00:40):
Reporter at Fox five for several years. Then I was
at WABC Radio in New York City, and now I'm
me at Newsmax Saturday's at five o'clock five pm Eastern
and then Sundays at noon Eastern. I'm filling in for
Carl Higbee this Friday at six pm Eastern, and so
you'll I fill in on Primetime usually during the week.
So when I was sixteen years old, I stole my

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parents minivan, I got my license, I got my permit,
and I had never do you ever see that movie Clueless?
Where the girls are on the highway and they started
screaming like that was me. And so I went to
high school in the Bronx Cardinals Spelmane and so I
had never and I lived in Yonkers at the time,
so it was like a ten minute drive and I

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never drove on the highway before. So I stole my
parents minivan and we loaded up all the I've loaded
up all my friends, these girls because I was obsessed
with Bush and they were playing at Jones Beach and
I had to drive on the l IE the Long
Island Expressway. I mean, I remember, I'd never even been
to Long Island before. The only beach I would go

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to when I was sixteen, you know, the living in
the Bronx and Yonkers was Orchard Beach, which is was
a nasty beach. They actually kind of cleaned it up.
So I had never been to Jones Beach. I had
never and here I was like driving with like a
van full of girls on our way and the concert
was epic.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
The lead the lead act was the Google was Google Dolls, right,
Google Dolls then No Doubt and Bush. And this was
late nineties. This was the height of Gavin Rossdale the
epitome of hotness. And he's like sixty years old now
and I still go and see him. My husband is aware.
He's come with me, and I swear Gavin Rossdale every

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time I'm in the pit too. I'm one of those freaks.
I'm one of those people that just I have to
be like by the stage, I get all into it.
I get into the zone. I know all the songs
and we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not
in my mind, I have this like I think he
knows who I am and I met him just like
at the concert, like you know, I've touched him and

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stuff like that. You know, don't don't get H'm not
that kind of way I touched him. But anyway, I
like alternative music like Pearl Jam and that kind of stuff,
and you know that's my jam. That's my jam. So
you normally that's like a not a normal thing for
a girl from the Bronx to love alternative music and
hard music. But that's what I like. Guns n' Roses,

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all that kind of stuff from back then. And I
feel like nowadays there isn't that kind of good music,
like the bands like can You. I don't know can
you guys think, I say, I don't have a call
screener because we're fair bones, because it's the holidays, and
that I would because I would love to hear from everybody.
You could tell me on social media at Lydia News
L I D I A N e WS. There there

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are no good new bands anymore, back in the day,
the Nirvana's and stuff like that. There where are those
rock bands? What has happened green Day? And people say
to me, they're like, well, green Day has left this
or this Pearl Jo. I don't care. I don't care.
I don't care what your politics are. I really don't
be as long as you still play that really good,

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amazing music. I know, I know that guy what's his name,
Billy or something like that for green Day talk smack
about Trump. I don't care. I still love the music.
I still listen to the Spotify Imagine Dragons. I kind
of like them. So anyway, that's that's my story. So
now you kind of understand where how I am. So

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I grew up in a very strict household. My parents first,
or you know, I didn't even speak English growing up.
My sister got married very early. She was told to
and so here they have this daughter who wants to
be a news reporter, and you know, I stole their
van to go see a concert. So I was like
this rebel, Like that was rebel. That was being a rebel.

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You know, I never did drugs in my entire life.
I've never even smoked marijuana or any of that. I
wasn't like into boys until like after college. I was
a late bloomer. I was like a tomboy. I played
sports and stuff like that, but I was I didn't
want to. I wore the baggy jeans. I was like
the gowing I like to dress like Gwen Stefani type

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of situation. So well, the reason, that's that's what brings
me all to this. So Gwen Stefani is the lead
singer of No Doubt. She was married to Gavin Rossdale
and they met on this tour and so Gwen and
they ended up getting divorced because Gavin cheated on her
with the nanny, because guys are lazy, and the nanny

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is you know, she happened to just be there, like
Arnold Schwarzenegger with the housekeeper, because she was there. You know,
you guys are lazy. Sorry, no offense So Gwen Sefani
got a lot of hate recently because she was promoting
that Hallow app, which is a Christian app, right, and
it's about prayer. I actually have the app. And all

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she did was say, you know, during this holiday season,
we should pray more. And so there was all these
articles written about her, slamming her, saying how dare she
promote a pro anti abortion app? And anti that's what
they called it. If you have the app, nowhere does
it talk about abortion. It has masses, it has if

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you want to pray the Rosary, it has Bible stories.
It does never talks about abortion. And so again this
is how the left manipulates. You look at the Huffington Post,
you look at all these articles, and that's what it said.
Gwen Stefani. You know her famous song is don't speak.
She needs to stop speaking as she promotes anti abortion app.

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It's because she's a Catholic. And this is what happens
with people. We're attacked for our religion. We're attacked if
you say you know, people are offended. Apparently if you
say Merry Christmas. And this comedian he became he kind
of went viral. I I'll play it for you tomorrow.
I'm filling in for Jesse tomorrow too. And he said,
you know what, I'm not going to say Merry Christmas anymore.

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I'm going to say to everybody, may we all celebrate
the birth of the One True Savior, the Son of God,
who is Jesus Christ. And maybe that's what we need
to start saying instead of just saying Mary Christmas. Maybe
we all celebrate the birthday of the One True Lord,
our Savior, Jesus Christ, and then maybe people won't get

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so offensive. Maybe that's what we need to do from
now on. But I wanted you to listen to jd Vance.
He said that we are essentially a Christian nation and
that's what this country is about. Whether people like it
or not, this is a Christian nation and one nation
under God, I believe. So take a listen clip number three.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
The only thing that is truly served as an anchor
of the United States of America is that we have been,
and by the grace of God, we always will be,
a Christian nation.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump
saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what
that's what this holiday is about. I saw Dana Carvey,
you know, the guy from SNL. He even pointed it out.
He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't
call it a Christmas tree. They call it a holiday

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tree christ Christmas. Even my child, she goes to a
public school. They said, oh, enjoy the holiday, and it
says that on the calendar holiday. They won't allow you
can't say it's Christmas. I mean, this is you know,
we got to push back. We got to push back,
and you know, but and at what point, you know,
I saw I say Merry Christmas if I know the

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person is Jewish. Yeah, I still say Merry Christmas because
it's my holiday. I mean, is Honkakah still going on?
I mean I could say happy Hankah. I don't have
a problem. It just ended. Hanakah just ended. So yeah,
I just say Merry Christmas because it is. It's Christmas.
And I'll say I won't say like something else, it's
Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas. It's my holiday. And

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if it's their holiday, I'll say it's their holiday like
Muslims got to bite them whatever, so wha whatever. So
it's my holiday, it's our holiday. Merry Christmas, the One
True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ celebrating his birth. Maybe
that's what we'll say. So when we come back, we'll
continue to talk about our faith, what's going on in
the world, and why we need to stand up for ourselves.

(09:09):
We're also going to talk about Nancy Pelosi, which she
thinks should happen with Joe Biden and how amazing he is.
Don't go anywhere. You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
I'm Lydia Sarrane and we'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Oh, Voice of New York seventon w R.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,
Gwen Stefani. She's, you know, under attack for being a Christian,
for talking about her faith. Yeah, it's just it's so ridiculous.
I just saw this. I saw this article that I'm
sure you guys haven't heard about it either. Because that's
what I like to do. I want people when they

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watch my shows they listen to me that they say,
you know what that Lydia had said, Because I feel
like a lot of the true stories that Matt people
aren't getting out there. And I saw this story Christian
NFL players call for action against religious persecution in Nigeria.
The lives at Stake cannot wait more than sixty current
and former NFL players are banding together and urging action

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from the US against the ongoing religious persecution in Nigeria.
The presidents, they sent the players sent the President a
letter to high ranking government officials, including of course the President,
as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson. The letter rights,
Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has reached a level

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that demands immediate, concrete action from the United States. And
it's you know, among the sixty current and former NFL players,
you know, it's just it's it's unbelievable. There's a lot
of them. There's a lot of them from Houston, the
New York Giants, Saw Rock Party, San Francisco, forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud, Houston, Texans,

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Trayvon Henderson, New and when Patriots, you name it. The
letter rights. As men who have been entrusted with a
public platform through the National Football League, we feel a
moral responsibility to speak for those whose cries have gone
on answered for far too long. So nobody talks about it,
about what's going on in Nigeria. That the kids are

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being you know, Boko Haram, that is an Islamic terror group.
They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting, they're infighting.
Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And what's really
happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are chopping people's
heads off and they're kidnapping children, school children, killing priests
and nuns, you name it. Nobody wants to talk about it.

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Why is that? Why is it? Is it because they're black?
Maybe they don't care. You see, Democrats only care about
black people if they can manipulate them to vote for them.
That's all they care to because at the end of
the day, if you think about it, at welfare, all
of the institutionalized racism, that's why they they want. They

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want black people to be under their thumb. They don't
want to lift up. The Democrat Party doesn't want to
lift up black people. If they did, they wouldn't want
this revolving door of justice when it comes to crime,
because although we're seeing I just talked about it before,
a lot of white women, women in general, are being
are victimized by these career criminals. The majority of crime

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victims are people of color, because the majority of people
committing the crime are people of color, and they do
it to their own people. That's what they do, because
it's happening. Usually it's with gangs, and we're seeing in
Chicago the number one killer of young black men is
other young black men. I mean, that's a fact, but

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they don't talk about that. So think about it. If
Democrats really cared about young black men, why wouldn't they
put the bad ones away that are killing the other ones?
Why why aren't they doing that? I don't know. And
then so they don't care. They don't care. If they
cared about black people, Nigerians they're black. Why don't they care?

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Because it doesn't fit the narrative they care if they're
maybe you know what, maybe they would care about the
Nigerians if they wanted to be trans right, if it
fits their agenda, maybe then they'll care. Sunny Houstin, she's
another black woman married to a cuck white guy. See
you see the trends here, right, you see the trends
of these women of color. They say, you know, oh,

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this and that, and then their partner is a white dude, right,
I think he's white if he's not regardless, he's a loser.
Cliff number thirteen. Here's what she said.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
This is a country based on racism and slavery and
founding it founded in it. There is systemic racism and misogyny.
So you have a president who traffics and misogyny, who
traffics in xphobia, who tracticks in sexism, and one and

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any one and one.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Against a black woman.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
So don't tell me that that's kind on the water guy,
black woman, don't tell.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Me this country is there.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
This country has only had one black male president.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
There's a will see another. Oh my god. By the way,
Sunny Houston is married to a guy that's half half white.
So I was close. But he still looks like a loser.
This is you know, she's taller than him. He looks
like a tiny little little man, little little man. But yeah,
look at that. It's always oh, misogyny, it's always this.

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It's like, come on, give me a break. It's it's you,
just you. They they, they, they really think black people
are stupid. It's really disgusting. And the whole dee, I
think I think it hurts black people more more than anybody.
And and Latino people. It hurts them more than anybody
because you know, if you step onto a plane and
your pilot's black, you can't help but think, oh my god,

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did this person get the job because they're black? Because
they had a quota to fill. See, people don't talk
about That's why we have a shortage of air traffic
controllers and pilots, because they have quotas to fill. So
you have to be They have to make it diverse.
That's why President Trump, it's like, why do we even
have what color you are on your forms or for school.

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I remember one of my cousins. He was like number
one ranked in his class, and his dream was to
go to Harvard, and he didn't get in even though
he was like number one ranked and did all these
extracurricular activities, this and that, because he's white. Because he's white,
even though his parents, like mine, fled a communist nation
and he didn't even speak English growing up and all
these and that. But meanwhile, he told me this kid

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that was black that was ranked like forty got in,
and meanwhile that kid was American for generations. So think
about it. If we want to help people get a
leg up, why wouldn't you help, say the kid who
is in m'or grin who face all these adversities. Why
just because you're black you face adversity. That's BS, that's BS.
You have a lot of you have a lot of

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black people. You have black people here that they've been
It's it's not my fault that you've been here. Your
family's been here for generations. It's just unbelievable that this
this mentality, this victim mentality, it continues. And I know
here in New York City a lot of them have
the public housing. A lot of black people, you see it,
they live in the public housing. And and it's it's

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almost like success is de incentivized. So a lot of
them they they purposely don't get another job or don't
want to get a higher paying job because then they're
going to lose the free housing. So what they do
is they'll get a side cash job. And what could
be a side cash job, it's usually something you know,
dabbling into illegal activities. So that is another thing. So

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if we wanted to help, say you know, lower income
communities or people of color, why don't we say to them, hey,
we'll we'll we'll pay for the schooling for this for that. Instead,
it's like the poorer you are, the worse you are
at life, the bigger the loser you are, the more
the government wants to give you. We should be doing
the opposite. We should be incentivizing people that are successful

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and not doing the opposite. But that's what we're doing
this country. When we come back, we're gonna talk to
Father Pavone. We're gonna talk about Christianity. We're gonna talk
about our faith. We're gonna talk about Christmas and more.
This is a Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia Show.
Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia
Sarni filling in for Jesse Kelly. You can follow me

(17:34):
on social media at Lydia News l I d ian WS.
I'm watching We got Fox News on here, Brian Kilmead,
who is a really great guy. He's talking about the
sixty Minutes Report with Sharon el Fonsi. I talked about
it earlier in today's show. So Sharon A. Fonsi is
really is a wonderful woman. At least when I was

(17:55):
in my early twenties and she brought me out on
my first they call them stand ups. Very nice person,
but she's upset because Barry Weiss. She is moderate, she
leans to the right. She shelved the CBS piece because
she felt like it wasn't balanced, and now people are
threatening to quit. I worked at CBS for five years.

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I was my first TV like well, I was at
The View too, believe that I was an intern at
The View, and then I worked at CBS. I was
a production assistant for the early show, and then I
worked for Dan Rather for several years. I got to
know him well, and he's a hardcore lefty and when
I was there, you know, as a young person, I
was in the middle. And I'll admit it. And I

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got hit for this because I said this on TV.
I have voted for Barack Obama. I did. I know
now people are parently turning it off, but no, I
was a kid. I was young, and I was like
hope and change for the future. And then I didn't
vote for him. The second time I did not, and
I've been on the right path ever since. But you know,
you are naive as a young person, you are naive,

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you are impressionable. You don't understand, and so that's why
when I hear. We didn't have this when I was
growing up. I'm sure you guys didn't either, about this
whole trans craziness. So you can't get a tattoo, you
can't buy beer, you can't buy wine, you can't get
you know, all these crazy things you can And yet
if you want hormones, if you want surgery, we know
of twelve year olds that are getting missectomies. And this

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is what's happening. And now you have RFK Junior who
wants who has made it now illegal to chop off
a child's body parts and he's getting hit for it.
Clip number five.

Speaker 6 (19:37):
The Trump administration will not stand by will ideology, misinformation,
and propaganda push vulnerable young people into decisions they cannot
fully understand and that they can never reverse. On my watch,
AHHS will stand for radical transparency and informed consent. We

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follow the evidence, We employed gold standard science. We honor
the moral obligation to do no harm. There is divine
worth in every person. It shines most brightly in our children.
That worth commands us to protect them. And as long
as I serve as HHS Secretary, this agency will do so.

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President Trump is made Child protection ain't national priority Make
our Children Healthy Against strategy demonstrates that commitment sex rejecting
procedures rob children of their futures. So today we are
taking six the sides of actions guided by gold standard
science and the week one executive order from President Trump

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to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. This morning
I signed a declaration sex rejecting procedures are neither safe
nor effective treatment for children with genderness.

Speaker 1 (20:57):
For you have it there, you have it now. And
he's getting hate from the left for speaking the truth.
It's gender dysphoria. These people are confused, they need help
these young children, and the parents are upset, so they
bring the child to a psychiatrist who tells them, well,
would you rather have alive son or a you know,

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or a dead daughter?

Speaker 2 (21:21):
You know?

Speaker 1 (21:21):
This is what they do. They scare the parents. So
on with me right now is Father Pavone, Father Frank Pavone.
He is a he was ordained in nineteen eighty eight.
He's a director for Priests for Life, a national co
chair pro Life Voices for Trump. Father Profone, thank you
so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Hey, Lydia, It's always great to be on with you.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Thank you for having me So, Father Provone, you got
kicked out of the priesthood, you know, not for anything bad,
but for speaking the truth. You got hate for speaking
the truth because of a radical church leaders. Tell us
about it. You advocate for the unborn, You advocate for children,
because that's who is the unborn, and you got hate
for it. You risked it all for it. And this

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is what we keep seeing, people that are being persecuted
for speaking the truth. So tell us what happened.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
Well, yes, I back in the well. I've been involved
in the Prolge Moved since nineteen seventy six. I was
a teenager when I got involved in the movement. Then
I also felt the call to the priesthood. And as
a priest, you know, I was speaking out against abortion
very very strongly, and the a few years into my priesthood,
I said, I want to devote myself to this full

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time and the church at that time I was under
Cardinal John O'Connor in New York. They said, yes, they
gave me permission to lead this ministry priest for Life.
And you know, for the next three decades I did
this a full time and until I got to the
point where you know, the ministry was becoming very, very large,

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very effective, and that threatned some of the left leaning
members of the hierarchy, who, as my canonical advisor told me,
what they cannot control, they kill. So they tried to
limit our ministry. They it didn't succeed because people support
our work all around the country. And so when they

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didn't succeed in destroying the ministry, they took away my priesthood.
I still lead the ministry. It's still growing because Lydia
like you like you're saying the war it is actually
a war against children which is going on. That's not
just you know, my opinion, your opinion. You know, Saint

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John Paul the second wrote about this back when when when,
when he was pope, but he died in twenty five
and and he said, yes, there's a deliberate war going
on of the strong against the weak. And whether these
children are in the womb or or or whether they
are in our schools, there's a terrible war. It's the

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same that it's the war against marriage. It's a war
against the family. It's a war against the innocence of
young life. And when we speak up about that, that's
those same warriors in the radical left culture of death
are going to treat us, the advocates for these children,

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in the same way that they treat the children themselves.
They will try to obliterate us in one way or another.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Again, we're speaking with father Frank Pavone and mother Teresa
again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.
She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of
peace today is abortion, because it is a war against
the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered
by the mother herself. And if we can accept that
a mother can kill even her own child, how can

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we tell other people not to kill one another? How
do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?
As always, we must persuade her with love, and we
must remind ourselves that love me means to be willing
to give until it hurts. And yet, and we know
the number one killer of young of black babies is abortion.
And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for

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the killing of children. I mean you, what do you think,
Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be
a Democrat?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.
And the reason that we say this is is not
to judge any particular person. I know that obviously. I
mean in my own life and the lives of you know,
so many of our listeners. You know, we know people
who identify as Democrats who we say, wait a minute,
these are very good people, They're very Christian people. When

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we say this, we're not judging any particular individual. What
we're saying is that being a Christian means that you
embrace certain teachings. One of them we're talking about now,
the sanctity of life, and there are many other teachings,
the meaning of marriage, the meaning of family, and and

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and many other moral stances as well. Christianity has a content.
It's not just oh, I pray to God. I believe
in Jesus. Jesus taught certain specific things. He established a
church which teaches very specific things. So it's not you know,
I let me just put the label on myself and
I'll invent whatever I want to believe. It has a content.

(26:26):
Then you look at the Democrat party, it has a
content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions
in the platform and in the in the what has
become the you might say the ideological uh, practice and
commitment of the Democrat Party, and one of those things

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is to unlimited abortion. I mean, find me a Democrat
that says there should be certain limits on even late
term abortion, and uh, you know, I'll give you a
prize because they're awful hard to find. Uh. We're talking about,
you know, the people you know, in in positions, in
public positions. So this is why what you just said

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is is true. You cannot be not in our day
and age.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Don't go anywhere, Father Pavone. We're going to continue this conversation.
If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was
denied communion the Eucharists, which we Catholics believe is the
body of Christ. This was by a San Francisco Archbishop,
Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two
that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of

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her persistent support of killing the unborn unfettered. She wanted
you to be able. She still believes it. So this
woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk
a little bit more about her, because you know, I mean,
I'm not here to judge, I know, Father you don't
judge people. I judge her. I think she's a horrible
discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't
go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and

(27:52):
why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by
President Trump. He is he is looking into it. Were
going to get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.
I'm Lydia Soaran I in for Jesse Kelly and we're
going to be right back. Welcome back to the Jesse
Kelly Show. I am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News
l I d I A n e WS. It's been

(28:12):
so amazing to be on with you guys this evening.
I'll be back tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again.
We were talking before about Nancy Pelosi and what a
disgrace she is and she claims to be a Catholics
like Joe Biden. Here's I want you to clip nine.
Here's what she said about Joe Biden. She was talking
to sixty minutes. Correspondal, listen to this.

Speaker 7 (28:34):
Such a consequential president of the United States, a mount
Rushmore kind of president of the United States. I want
to know what comes next that he belongs up there
on Mount Rushmore, Lincoln and Joe Biden, But you got
Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful. I don't say
take him down, but you can add Biden.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
She's so crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that
the church is so for not I don't even want
to say it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to
people that openly contradict fundamentally what the Church stands for
and what Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So

(29:18):
why allow people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and
these and Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why
allow them to get to allow them to receive the
Body of Christ? What kind of message does that send?

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually
how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into
a big public spat with Nancy Pelosi because in a
press conference where she was asked about legislation limiting late
term abortion and whether she'd be in favor of that,
she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm

(29:51):
a sincere practicing Catholic. You know. And then when people
started pointing out, myself included that, wait a minute, your
position contradicts the very Catholic faith you playing to embrace.
You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know
this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,
and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,
wait one minute. You are the one who said you're

(30:13):
a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your
faith a public matter, and and you said that in
reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just
addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact
that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy
baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,

(30:36):
and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want
to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to
try to hide behind your oh faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.
You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.
I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,
Oh I carried a rosary and oh I received why
you know, why do we care about that? You re
elected you to be a president, not a pastor. Tell

(30:58):
us about the policy and try to justify. So the
bottom line is Lydia. You know why these people feel
so confident in invoking their Catholicism and taking positions completely
contrary to Catholicism because they have got priests that they
go to who are misleading them. They're not coming to
this on their own. They're not theologians. They're relying on

(31:21):
priests who are telling them, oh, you know, don't worry,
there's justification for taking these positions. That's why I lead
a ministry called Priests for a Life, because which time
there's need for reform in the church. Just like we've
got weak and cowardly politicians that will talk and talk
and talk and you don't know what in the world
they just said. So we have the same problem in

(31:42):
the pulpit where you've got this d zacuous, cowardly beating
around the bush. They're they're talking, and they're not changing anyone,
they're not challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No,
we need renewal within the clergy. Just we need the
spirit that President Trump has brought into the political world

(32:05):
and the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and
and the and the and the kind of talking that
resonates with the hearts and passions of the American people
sitting in their living rooms. This is what we need
coming from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries
to do, and it includes challenging exactly the problem you
are just bringing out in the in the in the

(32:26):
likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a
whole bunch of others at various levels of government.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and
where again can people find you and reach you and
talk to you because you are just I love the
way you are just such a defender, of course of
the unborn, but also of the truth.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
Well, thank you. I'm at fr Frank Pavone on all
the social media platforms Fr Frank Pavone and our main
website is pro lifecentral dot org. Pro lifecentral dot org.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Thank you, Thanks Lydia, God bless God.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Bless everyone out there listening to this. You know there
is even these nativity displays. I saw it in I
think it's Meetam, Massachusetts, where they said, oh Mary they
had they don't have Mary and Jesus there. We all
know that baby Jesus isn't there until Christmas Day, but
they don't even have Marry and Jesus. And they said, oh,
it's because of ice. And the archdiocese told them to

(33:23):
put them, to put them back, and they were the
priest is refusing, you know, they stop comparing what's going
on with Mary and Jesus and Joseph, because they were
not illegal aliens. They were going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem,
they were going to answer for a census. So stop
with the lies, stop with the bs. Stands up for
the truth. And I actually go to a different church

(33:45):
now because my priest was spewing these stupid nonsensical lies
about migrants and this and that. You know, it's at
the end of the day, you just got to call
it like it is and and speak the truth. Because
what did you just say, I'm the Way, the truth
and the light right. He didn't say, I'm not going
to tell you the truth if it hurts your feelings.
So it's been an awesome experience being with you guys.
As always again, I'm Lydia Saran I Lydia News l

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I d I A N E.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
W S.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
God bless you guys, Merry Christmas. I look forward to
talking to you tomorrow, and have a great and blessed night,
and trust and remember that God is with you and
always always,