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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on
a Thursday, A magnificent Thursday. I'm hoping it's going to
be an informative Thursday because we have a couple different
things going on today. So let me set the table
for you on what's gonna happen on tonight's world Famous
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diversity higher, why are they finally getting hard questions? What's
actually going on here? Climate change is not pulling as
a main issue for people. So we're actually gonna have
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a little talk probably fairly soon about tariffs manufacturing bringing
jobs back, and we're gonna tie that climate churing stuff
into that. All that we have apparently legions of foreigners
on welfare in this country, all that in so much
more coming up on the world Famous Jesse Kelly Show.
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So before I get to any of that, I wanted
to touch a bit more on Arctic frost because it's back,
of course, it's in the news today, looks like it's
going to stay there for the foreseeable future. A reminder
maybe you've been on the outs, maybe you've been in
the mountains, Arctic frost. Is that FBI investigation Special counsel
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Jack Smith, Christopher Ray, the DJ. All these guys colluded.
They all colluded to weaponize the federal government against Republicans.
So let me expand on this a little bit more.
You know, I try to be a person who admits
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when I'm wrong. Now we all know that's extremely rare,
but in all serious I try to be that person.
But I have pride like anyone else. How many have
you gotten in arguments? Have you gotten in in your
life because you're just too prideful to admit you're wrong.
So I don't love it. It's more fun to have
to make Jewish producer Chris grab some old prediction where
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I'm right and play that and be obnoxious about it
than to have to sit here and tell you, well,
I got something wrong. No one enjoys that. You don't.
I don't, But I'm going to own something I was
wrong about in my younger years. For sure, when I
got out, well while I was in the Marine Corps.
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When I got out, I had some very very strong
views about national security and specifically terrorism. This was the
nine to eleven era. This is yeah, you're right, Chris,
I have every excuse in the world. I watched the
towers come down, and we fought against these people. So
I had some views on terrorism that kind of went
something like this. When people when libertarian types and that's you. Honestly,
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if that's you, that's fine. I guess that's maybe a
bit may But libertarian types back then would say, hey,
obviously terrorism's bad. But expanding government's domestic powers in the
name of terrorism, allowing them to spy here and inspy
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there on the American people in the name of hunting
down terrorists, that's a really, really bad idea that's going
to be abused. And young Jesse, we'll call him twenty
five year old Jesse, give or take, used to mock
and belittle those people. You're soft on terror, you don't
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know what you're talking about. You're enabling the enemy. But
they were one hundred percent right. The truth is giving
the government power to hunt down domestic terror, which obviously
we want the government hunting down domestic terror, right, but
giving the government extra powers to sidestep this and sidestep that,
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and the name of hunting down terror it did pave
the road for the government one day waking up and
deciding that you are a terrorist. When we were talking
about when we were wanting even the government to hunt
down domestic terrorists, well you know what we were talking about.
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We're talking about Okada. Later on we were talking about Isis.
I'm talking about these ge Hotti nutballs that are flying
into buildings and blowing themselves up. I don't mean me,
but of course, eventually our federal government gets occupied by
evil communists and for them, all their political enemies are terrorists.
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And you know what bothers me about this, what bothers
me about me about not seeing this coming Historically, if
you go re things that Stalin said and Mao said,
do you know the term they use for their political
opponents they're persecuting almost all the time terrorists. They were
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always calling their political opponents terrorists to justify sending the
secret state police after these terrorists. Because nobody Stalin, Mao,
nobody wants to stand in front of their people and
say I'm going after my political opposition. I'm going to
use the secret police to go after my political opposition.
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Nobody says that then the people might get angry, but
you know what, the people will be a bit more
understanding about I'm going after terrorists. Hey, go get them
frigging terrorists. And back when they were lining out these
powers for the federal government in the wake of nine
to eleven, young Jesse was all about that life. Forty
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four year old Jesse now watches the communist FBI hunt
down over one thousand January six ers hunt down Donald Trump,
Republican consultants, Republican groups. Forty four year old Jesse looks
back at young Jesse and things, MMMM, had a lot
to learn, didn't you. So we have this artic frost
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thing that wasn't actually the point of all that. I
actually have two points I want to make about the
artic frost stuff before we move on and we talk
about other things. One of them is this one. Hey, Jess,
I'm glad Republican members of Congress are finally becoming angry
about the FBI's abuse of power. What bothers me is
that they Republicans had to be personally targeted for them
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to become angry. I read this email because it mirrors
something I said briefly yesterday. It was on my mind
all night and it really bothers me too. Before I
go to insulting the communists, I do have to insult
Republicans here, I do. I understand that people are self
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serving by their nature, and I understand that many people,
most people you would probably say, are more prone to
cowardice than bravery. I get that. I understand that. But
we elect Republicans not because we're in love with Republicans,
not because we're always happy with Republicans. We elect Republicans
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because we, oftentimes I know I do, view them as
the only chance we have to have a political opposition
to the communists who want us dead. That's why we
elected Republicans. We elect Republicans to fight the communists on
our behalf. That's why. That's why. And they know that,
by the way, that's why they run all these ads.
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I'm sure they're already on your television, depending where you are.
I'll be the fighter. I'm a going to fight. Elect
me at all, I'll fight. I'm a fighter. Look at me.
I fight. They know that we elect these people to
fight on our behalf, not their behalf. Now, a central
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figure in this whole arctic frost thing is Justice Boseburg.
I know you know the name. Do you know why
you know the name? He's that alien looking freak of
a judge who, after Donald Trump got elected the second time,
has been making a name for himself, issuing these rulings,
trying to stop everything Trump does. It wasn't long ago
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we were right here, you and me screaming about Boseburg
this and Boseburg Dad, and Boseburg this and Boseburg Dad. Okay,
who was the judge signing off on all this illegal
crap the FBI was doing. You guessed it, Boseburg. Now
today we had a Republican politician, after republican politician, United
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States senators get up behind the podium and call for
the impeachment of Justice Boseburg. All right, sounds good. Totally agree.
I don't know about you. I'm not going to be
shedding any tears for Justice Boseburg. But it wasn't until
your phone line was tapped. What if it was my
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phone line would you be calling for I know I'm
not a senator, I'm not a member of the House
of What if it was yours?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Forget about me because I have a big platform radio
show and all that. What if it was you what
if they found out Justice Boseburg approved a completely evil
illegal wiretap on your cell phone, collecting your data, by
the way, just like they did to all those poor
January six ers. How many you know what? That's a
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perfect example. Let me ask you a question. Name for
me every Republican senator who called for a judge to
be impeached because they approved the illegal wire tapping of
January six ers. Anybody is it? Is this microphone on,
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but they get their information hoovered up. Now it's a
big deal. That's crap, man. We expect you to fight
for us, not just you. All right now, set that,
Setting that aside, We'll riff on the communists here briefly,
then we'll move on. Jd Vance has impressing me. Impressing me.
Brandon Wiker's coming up a half hour from now to
talk about Venezuela and China. Russia is flying military cargo
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jets into Venezuela. What is happening down in Venezuela?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday. I
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All three hours belong to you, and you need to
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me doesn't even have to be political. Back to what
we were discussing, so artic frost, that's back in the news.
We covered a bit of the mouthfeasons, although there's more
stuff that's coming out. I'll get to that in a moment.
And I touched on the fact that I have noticed,
and it does bother me that Republican politicians are now
finally calling for the impeachment of judges, expressing a great
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deal of outrage because their phones have been tapped, because
they have been tracked.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And now it is a big deal. But you matter
as much as they do. At least you would like
them to think that, or at least pretend. But either
setting that aside, this is something we've touched on before,
but I want to touch on it again because as
we find out more about arctic frost. For instance, today
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I got this from my buddy Sean Davis, who's looking
into this. It's not just Republican senators. It's not just
Republican individuals, meaning the head of certain groups, you know,
certain political pacts which are not criminal at all. These
are all groups on the up and up. They also
dug into the groups themselves and pulled donor lists in
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email addresses as part of this investigation. They completely took
a part and hoovered up all the data on people
in Republican politics, a complete witch hunt to create an
enemy's list. This was insanely evil and frightening beyond belief.
This is how people end up in gulags. This is really, really,
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really bad. All right, that's what they did. I'm going
to read you something. It's a direct quote Ken Delanian
as a communist. He works for MSNBC NBC. He poses
as a reporter, but he's a communist. So I just
laid out what they did. Keep in mind, as I
mentioned yesterday, tracking people's not just their phone numbers, who
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they called, who they texted, what their location was, tearing
apart organizations, hoo bring up. It was so far reaching,
so illegal, so out of line. The communists got elected
and used all the forces inside the government against his
political opponents to create enemies lists, hunt down innocent people
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all over the country. Now this is Ken Delanian quote.
He's talking about Chuck Grassley, he has yet to produce evidence,
and he put this in quotes, the Biden doj did
anything improper in investigating a plot among Trump's supporters to
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overturn a free and fair election, or that Biden had
anything to do with the investigation at all. January sixth,
I will always believe was an operation conducted by the
federal government. I believe there is a mountain of evidence
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out there, the FBI agents in the crowd, the people
who have never been identified, who were the main instigators
of all that riot stuff. Now, that always begged the question,
why would the government want a riot? Why would Nancy
Pelosi refuse National Guard? Why would we have people on
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camera telling people to go into the capitol and they
were not only not arrested, they were getting puff pieces
in the New York Times. Why would the government? If
I'm correct, why would the government do January sixth on purpose?
I thought they were all very concerned about the whole thing,
weren't they. Why would they do it? You're reading it
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right now. Why they would do it? You're reading it
exactly right now. Yeah. Ray Epps is on camera saying
we're going to go into the capitol. He's on camera
whispering something in some guy's ear. As soon as he
whispers it, the guy turns around and batters down the barricades.
He wasn't hunted down like a dog here he was
on sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Why didn't you stop to help this police officer who
was knocked over?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
When she was knocked down and I started to go
towards her to help her up, and I saw a
billy club over here in the corner of my eye,
and I thought, you know, they're going to think I'm
part of.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This, so I backed off.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You were part of it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was there. I wasn't a part of that knocking
her down.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And he wasn't part of the violence. There's a big
difference there. Why would the federal government, if I'm correct,
why would they do this? You're witnessing right now. That's
why you do it. You run an operation like this,
if it was an operation, because it makes your political
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opponents look like domestic terrorists. You use that operation as
justification to tap the phone lines of United States senators
to hunt down January six ers all over the country
with the promise of more. You use that as justification
to go through the donor lists email addresses of your
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political opponents. You essentially use that as the way you
can pick the lock, open up the door, and hoover
up all the intelligence you've been wanting on your political opponents,
and they did. It's really bad. All right? Are we
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going to invade Venezuela? And why are Russian cargo jets
flying into Venezuela? Are they dropping off Cheetos? Let's talk
to Brandon Wikert about that. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. Remember tomorrow is ask
doctor Jesse Friday. Get your questions emailed in now to
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Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. Now we have to talk Venezuela.
We have to talk China. Brandon Wikert is our go
to for all of these questions. He has criticisms of
the China deal. But first, before we go China, Brandon,
I want to know why there are Russian cargo jets
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landing in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, it's because they know we're getting ready to invade
Venezuela and they're trying to help their their client out
as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Okay, I'm gonna touch on that for a moment. Help
them out as much as possible, because it used to
be proxy wars were fought with at least some level
of secrecy, even if everyone knew what everyone was doing.
Then of course we started shipping weapons to Ukraine, and
every American politician bragged about how many Russians we were
killing with them. So I'm assuming the veil of secrecy
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is off on this sort of thing, and Russia's just
gonna come out and say we gave them this so
they can kill Americans.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, the Russians aren't saying that. It's the Venezuelans who
are saying it. The Venezuelans have let the cat out
of the bag and they're letting everybody know. And I
think we've confirmed that the Russians have given them the
KH thirty one, a anti ship ballistic missile. We're still
trying to determine if the Russians handed over the even
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more advanced KH thirty one, a d anti ship ballistic missile.
But it's somewhat ironic because I think the reason z
Row is sharing this publicly is to try to put
the fear of God into the Americans so that they
won't attack. But it's actually I think encouraging the Pentagon
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to seek to strike a land invasion, partly because they're
going to want to send the Marines to go hunt
those launch sites down and make sure they're destroyed. Because
the KA thirty one A and the K starty one
a D definitely are such very serious threats to our
warships that are off the coast of Venezuela right now.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Brend And can you expand on this missile and its
capability because most people do not understand. So is this
we can't stop it? Can it sink an aircraft carrier? What?
What can these things do? What's the range? Well, what's
their capability?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well? Just nothing? Get two technical. Our ships, all of
them right now, that are operating off the coast of
Venezuela are within range of this thing. And our ships
have to be where they are to support any kind
of operation that we will be conducting in the Venezuelan areas.
So our ships really can't move that far if they
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want to be in a support role. Of course, we
have I believe a Los Angeles class submarine off the
coast armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, and that will play
a factor as well. That is not as that's not
threatened by this missile. But our service ships are, including
the USS Gerald R Ford, which the last I heard
about four or five days ago, it was being retasked
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from the Mediterranean over to the Caribbean to support what
I suspect will be an invasion of Venezuela. The thing
about these missiles, the Russians have been listen. We have
a lot of misinformation in the West about the Russian
military capabilities. Just to clear up any confusion, the Russians
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are very serious players militarily. They are not, as McCain
described them before he died, just a job gas station
with nukes. They are very real military power. They have
very serious systems of increasingly complex capabilities. This missile is
one of them. And they have a war machine right now,
a war economy that can industrially produce these things like sausages,
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and they are These weapons are very dangerous to US
Navy warships, and that is why they are flying them
in by the plane load and have been for a
year or so two Venezuela in anticipation that we were
going to do this. These things can swarm. They are
very cheap to produce, relatively speaking, they can be fired
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in multiple iterations, and they can overwhelm the ship based
air defenses that we have anti missile defenses that we
have on the destroyers on the carrier. This is their threat.
It's not necessarily that one will will only one fired
or two fired will be the threat. It's that dozens
and dozens of them fired at once at a single
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tar it will overwhelm the onboard defense systems.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay, again we're speaking with Brandon Wikert. Sorry, we are
going to nerd out on some technical details because details matter,
and there they can be the difference between three thousand
sailors going to the bottom of the ocean or not. Okay, Brandon,
so you already brought up taking them out at the
launch site. Can you talk to me about the launch site?
And I ask it very stupidly for this reason, can
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we not detect the launch site and drop a Tamahawk
on it before they send an aircraft carrier to the
bottom of the ocean. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
No, I am sure that we will be doing our
own with Like I said that that Los Angeles class
submarine that's lurking there. I am sure we will be
doing everything we can to knock out known launch sites.
The problem is, you know, Trump said he doesn't like
to telegraph military movements, but unfortunately this has been the
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worst telegraph one he's done, in the sense that the
Venezuelans have known since at least August were coming, so
they have had time to dismantle their launch sites and
disperse them throughout the country, harden the sites and whatnot.
And the Russians are experts at that, and the Russians
have absolutely been helping them do this. As by the way,
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have the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Iranians, okay, so hardening the sites? Don't we have all
these different things we can drop that can destroy bunkers
deep underground. How do you harden a site the world where.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The Israelis did not in their war with Iran. Contrary
to what the media is saying, none of those underground
missile cities were destroyed because the Iranians had hardened them
so well that they still have these massive bunkers of
hypersonic weapons and missiles. It's the same thing going on here.
Plus they can hide them out in the jungle. It's
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harder for us to detect. This is why the discussion
is they want to send in marines to basically verify
we're gonna be able to kill these things before they
can be much of a threat to the fleet. But
of course, the fact is, all it takes is one swarm.
I mean, you know, all it takes is one go.
They don't even have to sink an American ship. All
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we have to do is damage it sufficiently that there
are some pretty amazing photos of it that go out
on the Internet, and that sends a signal to the
rest of the world that Uncle Sam really isn't as
powerful as he once was. And then it's open season
on the United States.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Brandon again speaking with Brandon Weikert here. Politically, and I
know that's not necessarily what you and I usually talk about,
but politically, doesn't this put Donald Trump in an extreme
amount of danger? Politically because the American people, especially now,
they're kind of okay with a little foreign adventuring. If
you're dropping some bombs on Iran with no real threat
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to our troops, no damage to our stuff, wake up
one day, we celebrate on Instagram and call it a day.
If an American sailor dies down off Venezuela, they're gonna
start asking harder questions.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, well, especially if this turns out like erupted is.
Remember Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld. They were running around telling everybody
that the invasion was going to pay for itself. We
were going to go in topple Saddam, be greeted as liberators,
install a democracy in short order, and oh, by the way,
all the oil and natural gas would pay for the invasion.
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Of course, none of that happened. We ended up getting
stuck holding a bag, you know, an insurgency. It was
a nightmare. It took us decade, a decade to get
out of there, and we got out of there with
our tail behind between our legs. Similarly, my concern, and
I'm not saying this will happen, but my concern is twofold. First,
Trump is clearly committed to regime change in Venezuela, and
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I'm no lover of Maduro, happy to see him go,
but it's really a problem for us if we do this,
because secondly, Maduro is mobilizing three million of his Bolivarian
militia guys. Now, there's a lot of debate in the
military kind of observing community as to how combat effective
these guys are. But even if a corner of that
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number is combat effective. We're talking about, you know, another
Vietnam potentially here because we're going to try to get
out after we knock out Maduro and we're going to
find that we kicked over a hornet's nest.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Brandon, do you have another segment for me to talk China?
And Okay, we will be back with more. Brandon Wiker
just that this is exactly why I wanted him to
come on. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Memory.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
If you miss any part of the show, you can
download at iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Now let's talk Trump China
trade deal. But we have one more year now with
Rare Earth. So what what are the details of all this?
What do we like? What do we hate? Brandon Wiker
of course joins us again for this. Brandon, talk to me.
We did we do well? Did we do poor?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well? I s want to clarify one thing because I
think I said launch site about the Cage thirty one
a in Venezuela. I'bout to say the depots, because the
launch site are the air bases because they they're launched
by the Russian made warplanes. But it's the depots where
they're housed. That's what I was talking about. That's why
I mentioned the Iranian mississipis. But with that, with that
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being out of the way, the question of China US
trade war, well, this is a this is a sticky,
wicked I'm getting a lot of pushback from my friends
and the and mar Lago crew because I think we
got our butts handed to us in the trade war
by China, and I think the Chinese know it, and
I think the rest of the world, notably the Global
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South knows it, which is breathing new life into the
Bricks Alliance. Contrary to what Trump said, It's not dead,
you know. It's the fact of the matter is China
had one card to play and they played it brilliantly,
and that was the the rare earth mineral ban, or
the threat of a rare earth mineral ban, specifically the
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export controls they wanted to put in on heavy rare
earth minerals. That's the stuff that we need to make
everything from your laptop to cruise missiles and everything in between.
And the Chinese control the bulk of it. And when
Trump went after them in the trade war, they said,
you could tear of us all you want. But you're
not getting access to the rare earth minerals. And now
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Trump realized that, and that's why he's trying to cut
a deal at all costs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, so, Brandon, how in the world do we get
to a place where the Chinese controls so much that
they have this leverage over us?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, remember this is what Trump was rightly attacking in
all three of his campaigns whenever the issue of trade
came up. I mean, he's the only president in my
lifetime he talked about this seriously and had an idea
of what to do about it. The problem is he
ran out of time, he ran out of daylight. Because
what happened was, going back to the nineteen seventies, Nixon
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and Carter both opened up to China, and ever since then,
forty or fifty years now, both Republican and Democratic Party
presidents have systematically dismantled our own capability to produce stuff
and to mine for things here, and they gave it
to the Chinese. And as we shut down here and
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Wall Street got rich off the shutting down of everything,
the Chinese were able to make themselves into a industrial
mega mega power or superpower. And now they've reached kind
of that critical moment where they have their hand on
the beating heart of the rare earth mineral market, which
is the one bottleneck that if they were to cut
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us off from we would basically go back to the
eighteenth century technologically.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Don't we have our hand on their economic heart too
because they need us buying things? Or have they found
so many new customers they don't need us as bad
as they used to need Well.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, and this is the key thing here. You know,
it's not that the Chinese beat us so completely. They're
laughing that, you know, we're never going to be a factor.
You're right. They did need us to buy stuff, at
least for now, but they are finding alternative markets much
the same way the Russians are for their stuff. The
key thing here with China is the objective, right, What
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was our objective? What was their objective? Our objective was
a lot harder to achieve. Our objective was we want
to get as much of our stuff out of China
and get our companies out of China to either return
to the United States on shoring or reshoring, or to
go to a friendly country called friendshoring where our supply
chains couldn't be disrupted and China couldn't do what they
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were what they did ultimately to us in the trade war.
What China's objective was was a lot easier. They just
needed to hang on long enough to inflict enough pain
on our farmers and our high tech and our defense
establishment that they would then get us to reopen trade
with them. And that is exactly what they've gotten. And
so that is why I say they won the trade war,
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because their objectives were much more attainable, and they calculated
correctly that by squeezing us on that one issue, the
rare mineral issue, they could basically get us to know
contort in ways I don't think Trump would have had
to do even four years ago. My friend Dan Collins,
who's done a bunch of business in China, he's a
factory guy. He builds factories for a living. He told
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me about it two weeks ago that the reason the
tech war the trade war went better in Trump's first
term is because China depended on us for helium. You
need helium to make a lot of this technology that
China's making. So from twenty twenty until about a year ago,
China embarked on a nationwide Manhattan project to no longer
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be dependent on the US for helium. That was our
silver bullet against them in the trade war. They took
it away from US, and they knew when Trump got
elected he was going to play the trade war card.
We didn't have the kind of vulnerability to exploit in
them that they had on us with the rare earth mineral,
which is why it's playing out the way it is now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Brandon, I've only got about a minute left, but I
do have to ask, because you mentioned it, why is
bricks not dead? I thought we were past all.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
This well, because look, America looks weak right now, and
they don't like the way that we handle the dollar,
how we weaponize it and we use it for sanctions
and whatnot. Or they're threatening to take the Sovereign Wealth
Fund of Russia, a nuclear armed superpower. So the rest
of the developing world is going, hey, if they can
do that to Russia, the Americans are going to do
it to little old US. So we're going to align
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with Russia and China because we're not going to be
pushed around. It's the politics of resistance, that's what you're
dealing with.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Brandon. Weikert go read his stuff. He writes amazing books.
By the way, Brandon, thank you, brother, I appreciate it.
Dang it, I was hoping. Look, I understand when it
comes to deals. This is why I wanted him on
today to talk about this China deal. I understand when
it comes to deals that not everybody, no side, is
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going to be one hundred percent happy. That's part of
the point of making a deal. You're going to have
to give a little one. I'm gonna have to give
a little I understand all that, and I am hopeful
that we will come out the back end of this well.
But we essentially the clock has begun ticking. From what
I understand about this trade deal. We don't have rare
earths for years. We have it for a year. We
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have a year to figure out how to source this stuff.
If we cannot, we will technologically fall behind the other
superpower on the globe that wants to topple us. And
that kind of seems important, doesn't it? All right? All right,
never fear, that's only one hour. We still have two
more hours left on an amazing Thursday. And then ask
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doctor Jesse Friday's coming tomorrow. So don't worry, hang on,
It's the Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on
a Thursday, A magnificent Thursday. I'm hoping it's going to
be an informative Thursday because we have a couple different
things going on today. So let me set the table
for you on what's gonna happen on tonight's world Famous
(00:23):
Jesse Kelly Show. Gavin Newsom is paying his dues with
Democrat donors. I'll explain why. I'll explain why Dome corin
diversity higher, why are they finally getting hard questions? What's
actually going on here? Climate change is not pulling as
a main issue for people. So we're actually gonna have
(00:43):
a little talk probably fairly soon about tariffs manufacturing bringing
jobs back, and we're gonna tie that climate churing stuff
into that. All that we have apparently legions of foreigners
on welfare in this country, all that in so much
more coming up on the world Famous Jesse Kelly Show.
(01:05):
So before I get to any of that, I wanted
to touch a bit more on Arctic frost because it's back,
of course, it's in the news today, looks like it's
going to stay there for the foreseeable future. A reminder
maybe you've been on the outs, maybe you've been in
the mountains, Arctic frost. Is that FBI investigation Special counsel
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Jack Smith, Christopher Ray, the DJ. All these guys colluded.
They all colluded to weaponize the federal government against Republicans.
So let me expand on this a little bit more.
You know, I try to be a person who admits
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when I'm wrong. Now we all know that's extremely rare,
but in all serious I try to be that person.
But I have pride like anyone else. How many have
you gotten in arguments? Have you gotten in in your
life because you're just too prideful to admit you're wrong.
So I don't love it. It's more fun to have
to make Jewish producer Chris grab some old prediction where
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I'm right and play that and be obnoxious about it
than to have to sit here and tell you, well,
I got something wrong. No one enjoys that. You don't.
I don't, But I'm going to own something I was
wrong about in my younger years. For sure, when I
got out, well while I was in the Marine Corps.
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When I got out, I had some very very strong
views about national security and specifically terrorism. This was the
nine to eleven era. This is yeah, you're right, Chris,
I have every excuse in the world. I watched the
towers come down, and we fought against these people. So
I had some views on terrorism that kind of went
something like this. When people when libertarian types and that's you. Honestly,
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if that's you, that's fine. I guess that's maybe a
bit may But libertarian types back then would say, hey,
obviously terrorism's bad. But expanding government's domestic powers in the
name of terrorism, allowing them to spy here and inspy
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there on the American people in the name of hunting
down terrorists, that's a really, really bad idea that's going
to be abused. And young Jesse, we'll call him twenty
five year old Jesse, give or take, used to mock
and belittle those people. You're soft on terror, you don't
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know what you're talking about. You're enabling the enemy. But
they were one hundred percent right. The truth is giving
the government power to hunt down domestic terror, which obviously
we want the government hunting down domestic terror, right, but
giving the government extra powers to sidestep this and sidestep that,
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and the name of hunting down terror it did pave
the road for the government one day waking up and
deciding that you are a terrorist. When we were talking
about when we were wanting even the government to hunt
down domestic terrorists, well you know what we were talking about.
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We're talking about Okada. Later on we were talking about Isis.
I'm talking about these ge Hotti nutballs that are flying
into buildings and blowing themselves up. I don't mean me,
but of course, eventually our federal government gets occupied by
evil communists and for them, all their political enemies are terrorists.
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And you know what bothers me about this, what bothers
me about me about not seeing this coming Historically, if
you go re things that Stalin said and Mao said,
do you know the term they use for their political
opponents they're persecuting almost all the time terrorists. They were
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always calling their political opponents terrorists to justify sending the
secret state police after these terrorists. Because nobody Stalin, Mao,
nobody wants to stand in front of their people and
say I'm going after my political opposition. I'm going to
use the secret police to go after my political opposition.
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Nobody says that then the people might get angry, but
you know what, the people will be a bit more
understanding about I'm going after terrorists. Hey, go get them
frigging terrorists. And back when they were lining out these
powers for the federal government in the wake of nine
to eleven, young Jesse was all about that life. Forty
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four year old Jesse now watches the communist FBI hunt
down over one thousand January six ers hunt down Donald Trump,
Republican consultants, Republican groups. Forty four year old Jesse looks
back at young Jesse and things, MMMM, had a lot
to learn, didn't you. So we have this artic frost
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thing that wasn't actually the point of all that. I
actually have two points I want to make about the
artic frost stuff before we move on and we talk
about other things. One of them is this one. Hey, Jess,
I'm glad Republican members of Congress are finally becoming angry
about the FBI's abuse of power. What bothers me is
that they Republicans had to be personally targeted for them
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to become angry. I read this email because it mirrors
something I said briefly yesterday. It was on my mind
all night and it really bothers me too. Before I
go to insulting the communists, I do have to insult
Republicans here, I do. I understand that people are self
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serving by their nature, and I understand that many people,
most people you would probably say, are more prone to
cowardice than bravery. I get that. I understand that. But
we elect Republicans not because we're in love with Republicans,
not because we're always happy with Republicans. We elect Republicans
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because we, oftentimes I know I do, view them as
the only chance we have to have a political opposition
to the communists who want us dead. That's why we
elected Republicans. We elect Republicans to fight the communists on
our behalf. That's why. That's why. And they know that,
by the way, that's why they run all these ads.
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I'm sure they're already on your television, depending where you are.
I'll be the fighter. I'm a going to fight. Elect
me at all, I'll fight. I'm a fighter. Look at me.
I fight. They know that we elect these people to
fight on our behalf, not their behalf. Now, a central
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figure in this whole arctic frost thing is Justice Boseburg.
I know you know the name. Do you know why
you know the name? He's that alien looking freak of
a judge who, after Donald Trump got elected the second time,
has been making a name for himself, issuing these rulings,
trying to stop everything Trump does. It wasn't long ago
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we were right here, you and me screaming about Boseburg
this and Boseburg Dad, and Boseburg this and Boseburg Dad. Okay,
who was the judge signing off on all this illegal
crap the FBI was doing. You guessed it, Boseburg. Now
today we had a Republican politician, after republican politician, United
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States senators get up behind the podium and call for
the impeachment of Justice Boseburg. All right, sounds good. Totally agree.
I don't know about you. I'm not going to be
shedding any tears for Justice Boseburg. But it wasn't until
your phone line was tapped. What if it was my
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phone line would you be calling for I know I'm
not a senator, I'm not a member of the House
of What if it was yours?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Forget about me because I have a big platform radio
show and all that. What if it was you what
if they found out Justice Boseburg approved a completely evil
illegal wiretap on your cell phone, collecting your data, by
the way, just like they did to all those poor
January six ers. How many you know what? That's a
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perfect example. Let me ask you a question. Name for
me every Republican senator who called for a judge to
be impeached because they approved the illegal wire tapping of
January six ers. Anybody is it? Is this microphone on,
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but they get their information hoovered up. Now it's a
big deal. That's crap, man. We expect you to fight
for us, not just you. All right now, set that,
Setting that aside, We'll riff on the communists here briefly,
then we'll move on. Jd Vance has impressing me. Impressing me.
Brandon Wiker's coming up a half hour from now to
talk about Venezuela and China. Russia is flying military cargo
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jets into Venezuela. What is happening down in Venezuela?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Is the Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursday. I
have to remind you that tomorrow is asked doctor Jesse Friday.
All three hours belong to you, and you need to
get your questions emailed in right now, don't wait till tomorrow.
Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com three hours. Whatever he asked
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me doesn't even have to be political. Back to what
we were discussing, so artic frost, that's back in the news.
We covered a bit of the mouthfeasons, although there's more
stuff that's coming out. I'll get to that in a moment.
And I touched on the fact that I have noticed,
and it does bother me that Republican politicians are now
finally calling for the impeachment of judges, expressing a great
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deal of outrage because their phones have been tapped, because
they have been tracked.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
And now it is a big deal. But you matter
as much as they do. At least you would like
them to think that, or at least pretend. But either
setting that aside, this is something we've touched on before,
but I want to touch on it again because as
we find out more about arctic frost. For instance, today
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I got this from my buddy Sean Davis, who's looking
into this. It's not just Republican senators. It's not just
Republican individuals, meaning the head of certain groups, you know,
certain political pacts which are not criminal at all. These
are all groups on the up and up. They also
dug into the groups themselves and pulled donor lists in
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email addresses as part of this investigation. They completely took
a part and hoovered up all the data on people
in Republican politics, a complete witch hunt to create an
enemy's list. This was insanely evil and frightening beyond belief.
This is how people end up in gulags. This is really, really,
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really bad. All right, that's what they did. I'm going
to read you something. It's a direct quote Ken Delanian
as a communist. He works for MSNBC NBC. He poses
as a reporter, but he's a communist. So I just
laid out what they did. Keep in mind, as I
mentioned yesterday, tracking people's not just their phone numbers, who
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they called, who they texted, what their location was, tearing
apart organizations, hoo bring up. It was so far reaching,
so illegal, so out of line. The communists got elected
and used all the forces inside the government against his
political opponents to create enemies lists, hunt down innocent people
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all over the country. Now this is Ken Delanian quote.
He's talking about Chuck Grassley, he has yet to produce evidence,
and he put this in quotes, the Biden doj did
anything improper in investigating a plot among Trump's supporters to
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overturn a free and fair election, or that Biden had
anything to do with the investigation at all. January sixth,
I will always believe was an operation conducted by the
federal government. I believe there is a mountain of evidence
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out there, the FBI agents in the crowd, the people
who have never been identified, who were the main instigators
of all that riot stuff. Now, that always begged the question,
why would the government want a riot? Why would Nancy
Pelosi refuse National Guard? Why would we have people on
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camera telling people to go into the capitol and they
were not only not arrested, they were getting puff pieces
in the New York Times. Why would the government? If
I'm correct, why would the government do January sixth on purpose?
I thought they were all very concerned about the whole thing,
weren't they. Why would they do it? You're reading it
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right now. Why they would do it? You're reading it
exactly right now. Yeah. Ray Epps is on camera saying
we're going to go into the capitol. He's on camera
whispering something in some guy's ear. As soon as he
whispers it, the guy turns around and batters down the barricades.
He wasn't hunted down like a dog here he was
on sixty minutes.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Why didn't you stop to help this police officer who
was knocked over?
Speaker 4 (15:32):
When she was knocked down and I started to go
towards her to help her up, and I saw a
billy club over here in the corner of my eye,
and I thought, you know, they're going to think I'm
part of.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
This, so I backed off.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
You were part of it.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I was there. I wasn't a part of that knocking
her down.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
And he wasn't part of the violence. There's a big
difference there. Why would the federal government, if I'm correct,
why would they do this? You're witnessing right now. That's
why you do it. You run an operation like this,
if it was an operation, because it makes your political
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opponents look like domestic terrorists. You use that operation as
justification to tap the phone lines of United States senators
to hunt down January six ers all over the country
with the promise of more. You use that as justification
to go through the donor lists email addresses of your
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political opponents. You essentially use that as the way you
can pick the lock, open up the door, and hoover
up all the intelligence you've been wanting on your political opponents,
and they did. It's really bad. All right? Are we
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going to invade Venezuela? And why are Russian cargo jets
flying into Venezuela? Are they dropping off Cheetos? Let's talk
to Brandon Wikert about that. It is the Jesse Kelly
Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday. Remember tomorrow is ask
doctor Jesse Friday. Get your questions emailed in now to
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Jesse at jessekellyshow dot com. Now we have to talk Venezuela.
We have to talk China. Brandon Wikert is our go
to for all of these questions. He has criticisms of
the China deal. But first, before we go China, Brandon,
I want to know why there are Russian cargo jets
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landing in Venezuela.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Well, it's because they know we're getting ready to invade
Venezuela and they're trying to help their their client out
as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
Okay, I'm gonna touch on that for a moment. Help
them out as much as possible, because it used to
be proxy wars were fought with at least some level
of secrecy, even if everyone knew what everyone was doing.
Then of course we started shipping weapons to Ukraine, and
every American politician bragged about how many Russians we were
killing with them. So I'm assuming the veil of secrecy
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is off on this sort of thing, and Russia's just
gonna come out and say we gave them this so
they can kill Americans.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
Well, the Russians aren't saying that. It's the Venezuelans who
are saying it. The Venezuelans have let the cat out
of the bag and they're letting everybody know. And I
think we've confirmed that the Russians have given them the
KH thirty one, a anti ship ballistic missile. We're still
trying to determine if the Russians handed over the even
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more advanced KH thirty one, a d anti ship ballistic missile.
But it's somewhat ironic because I think the reason z
Row is sharing this publicly is to try to put
the fear of God into the Americans so that they
won't attack. But it's actually I think encouraging the Pentagon
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to seek to strike a land invasion, partly because they're
going to want to send the Marines to go hunt
those launch sites down and make sure they're destroyed. Because
the KA thirty one A and the K starty one
a D definitely are such very serious threats to our
warships that are off the coast of Venezuela right now.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Brend And can you expand on this missile and its
capability because most people do not understand. So is this
we can't stop it? Can it sink an aircraft carrier? What?
What can these things do? What's the range? Well, what's
their capability?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Well? Just nothing? Get two technical. Our ships, all of
them right now, that are operating off the coast of
Venezuela are within range of this thing. And our ships
have to be where they are to support any kind
of operation that we will be conducting in the Venezuelan areas.
So our ships really can't move that far if they
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want to be in a support role. Of course, we
have I believe a Los Angeles class submarine off the
coast armed with Tomahawk cruise missiles, and that will play
a factor as well. That is not as that's not
threatened by this missile. But our service ships are, including
the USS Gerald R Ford, which the last I heard
about four or five days ago, it was being retasked
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from the Mediterranean over to the Caribbean to support what
I suspect will be an invasion of Venezuela. The thing
about these missiles, the Russians have been listen. We have
a lot of misinformation in the West about the Russian
military capabilities. Just to clear up any confusion, the Russians
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are very serious players militarily. They are not, as McCain
described them before he died, just a job gas station
with nukes. They are very real military power. They have
very serious systems of increasingly complex capabilities. This missile is
one of them. And they have a war machine right now,
a war economy that can industrially produce these things like sausages,
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and they are These weapons are very dangerous to US
Navy warships, and that is why they are flying them
in by the plane load and have been for a
year or so two Venezuela in anticipation that we were
going to do this. These things can swarm. They are
very cheap to produce, relatively speaking, they can be fired
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in multiple iterations, and they can overwhelm the ship based
air defenses that we have anti missile defenses that we
have on the destroyers on the carrier. This is their threat.
It's not necessarily that one will will only one fired
or two fired will be the threat. It's that dozens
and dozens of them fired at once at a single
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tar it will overwhelm the onboard defense systems.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Okay, again we're speaking with Brandon Wikert. Sorry, we are
going to nerd out on some technical details because details matter,
and there they can be the difference between three thousand
sailors going to the bottom of the ocean or not. Okay, Brandon,
so you already brought up taking them out at the
launch site. Can you talk to me about the launch site?
And I ask it very stupidly for this reason, can
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we not detect the launch site and drop a Tamahawk
on it before they send an aircraft carrier to the
bottom of the ocean. Yeah?
Speaker 3 (22:34):
No, I am sure that we will be doing our
own with Like I said that that Los Angeles class
submarine that's lurking there. I am sure we will be
doing everything we can to knock out known launch sites.
The problem is, you know, Trump said he doesn't like
to telegraph military movements, but unfortunately this has been the
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worst telegraph one he's done, in the sense that the
Venezuelans have known since at least August were coming, so
they have had time to dismantle their launch sites and
disperse them throughout the country, harden the sites and whatnot.
And the Russians are experts at that, and the Russians
have absolutely been helping them do this. As by the way,
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have the.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
Iranians, okay, so hardening the sites? Don't we have all
these different things we can drop that can destroy bunkers
deep underground. How do you harden a site the world where.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
The Israelis did not in their war with Iran. Contrary
to what the media is saying, none of those underground
missile cities were destroyed because the Iranians had hardened them
so well that they still have these massive bunkers of
hypersonic weapons and missiles. It's the same thing going on here.
Plus they can hide them out in the jungle. It's
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harder for us to detect. This is why the discussion
is they want to send in marines to basically verify
we're gonna be able to kill these things before they
can be much of a threat to the fleet. But
of course, the fact is, all it takes is one swarm.
I mean, you know, all it takes is one go.
They don't even have to sink an American ship. All
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we have to do is damage it sufficiently that there
are some pretty amazing photos of it that go out
on the Internet, and that sends a signal to the
rest of the world that Uncle Sam really isn't as
powerful as he once was. And then it's open season
on the United States.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Brandon again speaking with Brandon Weikert here. Politically, and I
know that's not necessarily what you and I usually talk about,
but politically, doesn't this put Donald Trump in an extreme
amount of danger? Politically because the American people, especially now,
they're kind of okay with a little foreign adventuring. If
you're dropping some bombs on Iran with no real threat
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to our troops, no damage to our stuff, wake up
one day, we celebrate on Instagram and call it a day.
If an American sailor dies down off Venezuela, they're gonna
start asking harder questions.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
Yeah, well, especially if this turns out like erupted is.
Remember Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld. They were running around telling everybody
that the invasion was going to pay for itself. We
were going to go in topple Saddam, be greeted as liberators,
install a democracy in short order, and oh, by the way,
all the oil and natural gas would pay for the invasion.
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Of course, none of that happened. We ended up getting
stuck holding a bag, you know, an insurgency. It was
a nightmare. It took us decade, a decade to get
out of there, and we got out of there with
our tail behind between our legs. Similarly, my concern, and
I'm not saying this will happen, but my concern is twofold. First,
Trump is clearly committed to regime change in Venezuela, and
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I'm no lover of Maduro, happy to see him go,
but it's really a problem for us if we do this,
because secondly, Maduro is mobilizing three million of his Bolivarian
militia guys. Now, there's a lot of debate in the
military kind of observing community as to how combat effective
these guys are. But even if a corner of that
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number is combat effective. We're talking about, you know, another
Vietnam potentially here because we're going to try to get
out after we knock out Maduro and we're going to
find that we kicked over a hornet's nest.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Brandon, do you have another segment for me to talk China?
And Okay, we will be back with more. Brandon Wiker
just that this is exactly why I wanted him to
come on. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a Thursday.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Memory.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
If you miss any part of the show, you can
download at iHeart, Spotify, iTunes. Now let's talk Trump China
trade deal. But we have one more year now with
Rare Earth. So what what are the details of all this?
What do we like? What do we hate? Brandon Wiker
of course joins us again for this. Brandon, talk to me.
We did we do well? Did we do poor?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Well? I s want to clarify one thing because I
think I said launch site about the Cage thirty one
a in Venezuela. I'bout to say the depots, because the
launch site are the air bases because they they're launched
by the Russian made warplanes. But it's the depots where
they're housed. That's what I was talking about. That's why
I mentioned the Iranian mississipis. But with that, with that
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being out of the way, the question of China US
trade war, well, this is a this is a sticky,
wicked I'm getting a lot of pushback from my friends
and the and mar Lago crew because I think we
got our butts handed to us in the trade war
by China, and I think the Chinese know it, and
I think the rest of the world, notably the Global
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South knows it, which is breathing new life into the
Bricks Alliance. Contrary to what Trump said, It's not dead,
you know. It's the fact of the matter is China
had one card to play and they played it brilliantly,
and that was the the rare earth mineral ban, or
the threat of a rare earth mineral ban, specifically the
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export controls they wanted to put in on heavy rare
earth minerals. That's the stuff that we need to make
everything from your laptop to cruise missiles and everything in between.
And the Chinese control the bulk of it. And when
Trump went after them in the trade war, they said,
you could tear of us all you want. But you're
not getting access to the rare earth minerals. And now
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Trump realized that, and that's why he's trying to cut
a deal at all costs.
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Okay, so, Brandon, how in the world do we get
to a place where the Chinese controls so much that
they have this leverage over us?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
What?
Speaker 3 (28:40):
Well, remember this is what Trump was rightly attacking in
all three of his campaigns whenever the issue of trade
came up. I mean, he's the only president in my
lifetime he talked about this seriously and had an idea
of what to do about it. The problem is he
ran out of time, he ran out of daylight. Because
what happened was, going back to the nineteen seventies, Nixon
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and Carter both opened up to China, and ever since then,
forty or fifty years now, both Republican and Democratic Party
presidents have systematically dismantled our own capability to produce stuff
and to mine for things here, and they gave it
to the Chinese. And as we shut down here and
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Wall Street got rich off the shutting down of everything,
the Chinese were able to make themselves into a industrial
mega mega power or superpower. And now they've reached kind
of that critical moment where they have their hand on
the beating heart of the rare earth mineral market, which
is the one bottleneck that if they were to cut
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us off from we would basically go back to the
eighteenth century technologically.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
Don't we have our hand on their economic heart too
because they need us buying things? Or have they found
so many new customers they don't need us as bad
as they used to need Well.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
Yeah, and this is the key thing here. You know,
it's not that the Chinese beat us so completely. They're
laughing that, you know, we're never going to be a factor.
You're right. They did need us to buy stuff, at
least for now, but they are finding alternative markets much
the same way the Russians are for their stuff. The
key thing here with China is the objective, right, What
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was our objective? What was their objective? Our objective was
a lot harder to achieve. Our objective was we want
to get as much of our stuff out of China
and get our companies out of China to either return
to the United States on shoring or reshoring, or to
go to a friendly country called friendshoring where our supply
chains couldn't be disrupted and China couldn't do what they
(30:44):
were what they did ultimately to us in the trade war.
What China's objective was was a lot easier. They just
needed to hang on long enough to inflict enough pain
on our farmers and our high tech and our defense
establishment that they would then get us to reopen trade
with them. And that is exactly what they've gotten. And
so that is why I say they won the trade war,
(31:05):
because their objectives were much more attainable, and they calculated
correctly that by squeezing us on that one issue, the
rare mineral issue, they could basically get us to know
contort in ways I don't think Trump would have had
to do even four years ago. My friend Dan Collins,
who's done a bunch of business in China, he's a
factory guy. He builds factories for a living. He told
(31:27):
me about it two weeks ago that the reason the
tech war the trade war went better in Trump's first
term is because China depended on us for helium. You
need helium to make a lot of this technology that
China's making. So from twenty twenty until about a year ago,
China embarked on a nationwide Manhattan project to no longer
(31:48):
be dependent on the US for helium. That was our
silver bullet against them in the trade war. They took
it away from US, and they knew when Trump got
elected he was going to play the trade war card.
We didn't have the kind of vulnerability to exploit in
them that they had on us with the rare earth mineral,
which is why it's playing out the way it is now.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Brandon, I've only got about a minute left, but I
do have to ask, because you mentioned it, why is
bricks not dead? I thought we were past all.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
This well, because look, America looks weak right now, and
they don't like the way that we handle the dollar,
how we weaponize it and we use it for sanctions
and whatnot. Or they're threatening to take the Sovereign Wealth
Fund of Russia, a nuclear armed superpower. So the rest
of the developing world is going, hey, if they can
do that to Russia, the Americans are going to do
it to little old US. So we're going to align
(32:36):
with Russia and China because we're not going to be
pushed around. It's the politics of resistance, that's what you're
dealing with.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Brandon. Weikert go read his stuff. He writes amazing books.
By the way, Brandon, thank you, brother, I appreciate it.
Dang it, I was hoping. Look, I understand when it
comes to deals. This is why I wanted him on
today to talk about this China deal. I understand when
it comes to deals that not everybody, no side, is
(33:05):
going to be one hundred percent happy. That's part of
the point of making a deal. You're going to have
to give a little one. I'm gonna have to give
a little I understand all that, and I am hopeful
that we will come out the back end of this well.
But we essentially the clock has begun ticking. From what
I understand about this trade deal. We don't have rare
earths for years. We have it for a year. We
(33:31):
have a year to figure out how to source this stuff.
If we cannot, we will technologically fall behind the other
superpower on the globe that wants to topple us. And
that kind of seems important, doesn't it? All right? All right,
never fear, that's only one hour. We still have two
more hours left on an amazing Thursday. And then ask
(33:53):
doctor Jesse Friday's coming tomorrow. So don't worry, hang on,
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