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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of The
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday. We're going to
talk about the Communists using our values against us. Here briefly,
I do want to get to this man Donnie story
out of New York City. Of course, ten minutes from now.
Ten minutes from now, our final semi final matchup of
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the crappiest country in the world tournament that's going to
determine the finals which will take place next week for
all the marbles or rice, depending on what kind of country.
We're discussing. All that, and plus Brandon Wikert about a
half hour from now, apparently the war with Iran is
gonna fire up again and Venezuela we might be dropping
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bombs on them soon. This is wild anyway, All that
is coming up in this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show.
So obviously I don't really care about what Sunny Houston
has to say about anything. So it's not about the
view or Sunny host. And what is important is that
you and I understand the tactics the enemy uses against us.
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We have to understand what they're doing and why they're
doing it so we can stop it. She's talking about
pro life and gun owners, and.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Here she is, so you're against the death penalty in
all cases because some people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I am against the death penalty in all cases. Well,
I think in all cases. And that's why I find
there is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their AR fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
From each other.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
They are pro life, but they don't care about little
children's subsidies being taken away from them.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That is not pro life. Your pro life and you
have when AR fifteen you're not pro life. It is
a tactic. We've talked about a lot. We continue to
grow and gain more stations and listeners. So we're going
to have that discussion again briefly right now. Communists do
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not share your value system. In fact, they don't share
a value system that you would even recognize as human.
They're completely different. What motivates them is completely different. Let's
set that aside. But what it does do, what their
value system does do, is it grants them permission to
use yours against you. And the reason I will continue
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harping on this is the truth is this has been
probably the most effective tactic used by the communists on
the American right. They've been insanely successful using our values
against us for decades and decades and decades. It's really
the main reason why they were able to penetrate so
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deeply into all of our institutions. We wanted to be nice,
we wanted to be kind, we wanted to be tolerant.
Whenever they would run up against some form of resistance,
they would appeal to your humanity. I thought you loved freedom.
I thought you loved Jesus. Don't you believe what it
says in the Bible. Aren't you going to be kind?
Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek? And we, not
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realizing what was happening, not realizing why they were saying
what they were saying, constantly backed off, Well, you know
what you are right, Well, I do want to be
not nice. That Jesus would want me to be nice,
that is what he said. So I mean, okay, you can,
all right, you can have the cup scouts, all right?
You know what with the actually you can be one
of the pastors in our church. Well you know what, yet,
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you can be my son's teacher. I don't want to
be thought of of intolerant. After all, she's just a
tranny with pink hair. I don't want to look bad.
I don't want to look mean. And the second you
try to speak up, they whip out your Bible right
out of your pocket. Something they have nothing for. Disdain,
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nothing but disdain for by the way, nothing but disdain
for you and your beliefs. But they will whip your
Bible out in a heartbeat, and they'll hold it up
in your face, and they'll say, you want to own
a gun? I want to take your guns away. I
thought you said you were pro life. The Bible talks
about that. I guess you're not. Since you want to
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own a gun. Do you want to And by the way,
what I'm about to say still infects churches across this
country coast to coast.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Do you want.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
To deport people who came here illegally or stay here illegally?
Do you think Jesus would want that? That's not what
Jesus would want. Now, this is not a person who
cares about Jesus. Believes in Jesus, reads the Old Testament
or the New Testament, nothing but disc staying for you
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and your beliefs. But they understand very well what your
beliefs are, and they will whip them out and beat
you over the face with them the second their revolution
runs up against trouble. I didn't play it for you
so you could hear this brain dead idiot on the view.
She is a moron who has been trained in communist
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tactics for years and years and years in years and years.
This is how they've been trained. This is what they do.
I'm going to play it again. Write it in stone
on your heart and understand every time they pull out
your values, it is to weaken your resistance to their revolution.
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This is a tactic they're trained here.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because yes,
people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life positive.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Real quick, all, let are go in a moment, what
should just do. I've noticed there's a hypocrisy. If if
I if I sat down with you, let's say We're
sitting down at Red Lobster, and we got some mozzarella sticks,
and we got some Cajun shrimp alfredo and some shrimp scampy,
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and we're dipping our cheddar Bay biscuits in the shrimp
scampy butter as we do. Just having a conversation, you
and me, and I very frankly told you that I
thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were being
a hypocrite about something that would hurt your feelings, wouldn't it?
That would that would you wouldn't like that? You would
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want to hear an explanation, And frankly, even if you
got mad at me, you would probably examine yourself. Oh
my gosh, am I being a hypocrite. Notice their hypocrisy
never bothers them. In fact, they try to be hypocrites,
but they understandocrisy is something you don't want to embrace.
Being a hypocrite is not something you ever want to
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be thought of. And so they understand again a tactic
that is a great way to weaken your defenses to
the revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You're against the death penalty in all cases, because yes,
people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I am against the death penalty in all cases, well,
I think in all cases, and that's why I find
there is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their ar fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn from each other. They are pro life, but
they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken away
from them.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You call yourself a Christian. If you were a Christian,
you'd let me have my revolution. If you were a Christian,
you wouldn't believe in killing murders. If you were really
a Christian, you would give up your ability to defend
yourself from me. That way, I could send hordes of
animals to your home whenever you made me angry. If
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you were a Christian, you would give those guns up.
Aren't you a Christian? If you were a Christian, you
would allow me to import entire prison gangs from foreign
countries who will rape and murder your daughter. If you
were a real Christian and not a hypocrite, you'd let me.
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Aren't you a real Christian? They do it all the time.
They have been trained in it. They have been thoroughly
programmed in it. And the reason I will warn about
this until the day they finally fire me and take
me off the air is because it works. I've watched
it work endlessly on the right, especially on the church.
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I'm not going to bore you again with story of
losing my church after George Floyd died, not because my
pastors and he was an evil man. He's not my
pastor anymore. He's a very good man, I believe, humble,
kind human being. Not ready to deal with the Communist menace.
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They pulled him into some commie black coalition where they
scolded him for the color of his skin. He went
to a what White People Need to Know conference, and
the next Sunday stood up in front of the church
and talked about all of our white privilege. An evil man, no,
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a man who simply did not understand the tactics of
the devil and did not understand he was dealing with evil.
He did not understand he was dealing with trained subversives,
trained infiltrators, and he stood no chance stand up to
these people. Never ever, ever, let the Communists use your
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values against you. All right, all right, North Korea is
about to go to war with Haiti. No, not in
real life, although that'd be entertaining. We're just talking about
in our crappiest country in the world tournament, which continues next.
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, fantastic
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Thursday Memory. If you miss any part of the show,
you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes.
Now there's only one more semi final matchup in our
crappiest country in the world tournament. This is for the right,
the right to go fight for your honor as being
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the worst place on earth. The championship will take place.
What is it Monday or Tuesday? Chris Tuesday? Next Tuesday
is the championship. Somalia already fought valiantly, have turned their
country into a war torn hell hole where women are
treated like garbage, and that earned them the right to
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fight for a championship. Now it's up to North Korea,
it's up to Haiti. Now it's a question. Look, you're
both talented, you're both just awful in every possible way. Horrible,
putrid places, garbage cultures. You are both wretched. So now
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it's just about effort Now it's about will who wants
it more, North Korea or Haiti.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
It's the twenty twenty five crappiest country in the world competition.
Tonight's matchup is between North Korea and Haiti. Brought to
you by Big Debbies e'urinal cakes Delicious in only ten galleries.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So let's do a brief version, a brief recap of
how are things over there in North Korea. They have
concentration camps plural that are as bad as anything that
happened in World War Two. North Korea has a real
specialty when it comes to torture. Oftentimes it's water torture.
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Oh and I should note when you're being tortured, North
Korea will arrest your entire family oftentimes and do it
to everybody, so it's something the whole family gets to
enjoy as they force water down your throat and then
step on your stomach. They jam needles underneath your fingernails,
and all the way to just hanging you upside down
and then beating you senseless. You have no rights, no
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freedom of speech. There is a strict class system where
you can't advance beyond the lower classes at all. There's slavery.
Did you think we were past that time? The North
Korean government, because people have no rights and they have
no guns, they will just show up at your house
and yank you out and turn you into an uncompensated worker,
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which is, you know, slang for slavery in one of
their minds or camps or somewhere else. You don't have
to have done anything wrong whatsoever to get conscripted as
a slave. They do this to their own people. Not
a great place, but they're up against the juggernaut. Smaller
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than North Korea, no question. They don't have the concentration camps.
But Haities. Look, this is like a boxing matchup North Korea.
They're more of a power puncher. Haiti lighter on their feet,
lighter on their feet. Look, boxing is all about matchups.
Let's meet the other contender. On the US State Department's
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advice section for if you're traveling to Haiti, i kid
you not there is advice on how you need to
choose a family member with Boom. The kidnappers can negotiate
your ransom price. So the bad news is you might
be murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with a machete
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in Haiti if you visit there. But the good news
is that sister you hate, you can force her to
cough up some ransom money and cost her a fortune.
Haiti's terrible. Now, I didn't know who you were going
to choose, because remember, you've been able to vote this
whole time. I believe I've only overruled you one time, right, Chris,
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one time? So I don't want to hear any more
whining about how I'm a dictator who doesn't obey the
will of the people. I do that unless you're dumb.
But for the most part, what Chris, be a nice
I let you have your say. I kind of assumed
North Korea was going to win, not because Haiti is
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anything but one of the most cursed lands on the planet.
But North Korea does have like real concentrate camps, real ones.
They still have slavery. It's unbelievably bad. But the people
have spoken, and they've spoken out in such a way
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I can't even I can't even overrule this. Haiti destroyed
North Korea in the semi finals, and didn't Somalia just
destroy India to Chris, so it looks well, it doesn't
look like it is Haiti won this round, and they
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won it easily, and credit to them. And as we've
discussed before, when you have a team in any sport
and it finally gets to the playoffs, whatever that may
be NFL playoffs or the college football playoffs or Major
League Baseball playoffs, if there's a team that's been dominating
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everyone they face, that oftentimes is the team that's going
to win at all. But how in the world do
you handicap it when you have two different teams who
have dominated all comers. Somalia is so bad they wreck everybody.
There's poop on the streets in India, and Somalia still
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just slaughtered them as if it was an unborn child. Haiti,
they eat people. I don't know how we handle this.
I don't know who you're going to choose. But now
it's up to you to vote Haiti versus Somalia. Next week.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Go vote.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let your voice be heard. Now before you do that,
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continue to stress this over and over and over again.
There are so many things we do as a family
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Have fun, Go play football in the backyard, go to
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Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
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But we don't have time for that right now, because
brand is going to talk to us about bombs dropping
on Iran, and then we're gonna go to Venezuela and
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the world is coming to an end. I'm kidding, it's
not coming to an end. But our national security guy,
Brandon Wikert, author of so many great books joins US. Now, okay, Brandon,
We're gonna set Venezuela aside for just a few moments,
and let's talk about Iran. It was my understanding that
we flew around the world and dropped some bombs and
took out their nuclear facilities, and now it's been peace
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in the Middle East. Is that not the case?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
No, that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
No, this thanks for having me, by the way. This
is this that was merely round one.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Round two is at hand, and.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's looking like we've moved a dozen casey one thirty
five Strato tankers into Aludd Airbase in Katar. It looks
like we've got the USS Gerald R Ford heading to
the MED that's gonna bring with it. It's air wing
of F thirty fives and FA eight teams, as well
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as the E two D Hawkeye, and.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think that's those are the big ones out of there.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So basically we're we are ramping up for what looks
to me like an imminent another round of hostilities. I
am skeptical, however, that the US is going to necessarily
take part directly. It looks to me like we're emphasizing
for now at least a support role, but I do
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believe Israel is getting ready to hit hard into Iran.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, let's pause for a moment before we get to Israel,
because we're going to nerd out on military details that
people do not know the way you know them. So
please explain tankers. F thirty fives hawk guys, what are
these things?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Well, so the F thirty fives, and I believe it's
I think it's the F thirty five C, which is
the naval variant, which is the one that's designed to
take off and land on carriers. They're three variants. The
Marine Corps has a variant which I think is the
most interesting one. It basically lands and takes off like
a helicopter. That's the F thirty five B. And then
the Air Force has the F thirty five A, which
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is the most boring one. And then so those are warplanes.
Those are traditional. Everybody kind of figure out what those are.
They're gonna they fly in and they bomb and they
kill the enemy. The FA eight team super Hornet, same thing.
It's a fourth generation though, as opposed to a fifth
generation plane, which the F thirty five is. But the
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interesting thing, and I'm a logistics guy by nature. So
the interesting thing is all of the movement of the
big F sorry, big KC one thirty five strato tankers.
Those are the things. They're called strategic enablers. The Air
Force refers to the mads and as that name suggests,
it basically allows or enables either our military or military
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to conduct really complex, long range air strikes against distant targets.
And as you know, the distance from Israeli airspace to
Iranian airspace is pretty big, so.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
They need to refuel at some point.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
In the first round of fight with Iran in June,
they relied. Israel did on This was not advertised, but
a picket of Casey one thirty five flew out of
Aludd in the middle of the night on that first
night and popped off the Israeli bombers and allowed for
the Israelis to continue continuously striking at Iran. So something
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similar is going to happen with the Casey one thirty five.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I mentioned the.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
E TWD Hawkeye, which is a surveillance plane that it's
a propeller twin engine plane. It flies off of the
aircraft carrier. There's also on the carrier there would be
what is it the Growler, which is it's the same
airframe as an FA eighteen, but it basically does electronic warfare,
so it basically tries to switch off enemy air defenses.
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That allows for gaps to form, for friendly bombers and
warplanes to fly in with a reduced chance of getting
shot out of the sky. I don't know if we
would deploy the Growlers, because that would be more direct,
I think, than what Trump wants. But we very well
made to support the Israelis. But definitely those those strato tankers,
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the mid air refuelers, those are a big deal. And
also I suspect there's probably gonna be some a wax
which are basically you know, command and control planes. They'll
be orbiting the area as well, providing you know, assistance
to the Israelis on top of whatever the Israelis have deployed.
But what it looks like to me so far, Jesse
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is this is going to be a very big supporting role.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
We're going to be providing.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But that could be problematic because I don't know if
the Israelis have the capacity to fully do really what
they want to do on their own. Ultimately, last time
we had to get involved with the b two's I
don't know if Trump wants to do that again, but
I don't know if the Israelis actually have the capacity
to do what they're saying they want to do, which
it looks like they want to do decapitation strikes against
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the regime in Iran.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, So I'm glad you brought that up, because that's
exactly where we're going next. Of course, talking to Brandon Weikert,
national security guy, what does that mean? What does Israel want?
How would Israel even go about doing it? What are
decapitation strikes? Is this basically assassinating people with fighter jets?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Well so on paper, yes, but there's more to it.
It sounds to me like Massad Israel's intelligence has penetrated
pretty deep within the Iranian regime. They have people on
the inside. I was told during the June War.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Somebody that I rely on, who's Israeli.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
They told me the night of the attack that there
were literally Masad agents in the bunkers with the Iranian leaders.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So yeah, so, and people.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Don't realize how the reason those Israeli air strikes in
the opening days of that war were so effective was
because they literally had people on the ground in Iran,
hiding out, basically ranging the targets for the Israeli warplans.
I doubt the Israeli air campaign would have been as
effective as it was had it not been for that
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really effective penetration of Iranian society and.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Their government and military.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
By Iranian I mean sorry, Israeli spies, and in many
cases the Israeli spies were women who were penetrating the
regime in more ways than one.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
But that is one of the.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Things the Israelis are very good at, is deploying their
their people into these secretive positions where they can basically
get really good targeting, and that's at play here again.
I think that the ultimate goal, and I think that
Yahoo has even said this at one point in the
last few months, the ultimate goal, the perfect vision, is
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to one way or the other, get rid of the
regime in Iran. And we saw them try that initially
in the June war where they were killing a lot
of Iranian generals. They killed some I think they killed
like the number two in Iran, and we know they
were targeting the Iranian Ayatola Krmani, which is why they
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literally the Iranians had to literally move him to a
bunker that was far removed from Iran's kind of major cities,
and they basically did not allow any kind of electronic
device into that bunker, which meant that the Ayatola was
giving orders by hand by paper, and they were physically
driving those orders to the various commands and then transmitting
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them because they were so paranoid that the Israelis were
going to kill their grand leader.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah. I gotta tell you, if all my general staff
was getting wiped out too, I'd probably start handing out
love notes myself. Okay, Brandon, do you have a few
more minutes for us after the break, because I didn't
even get to Venezuela. This Iran Israel stuff is so fascinating,
but I want to talk Venezuela with you if you
have a few Is that okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I do, yes, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So we're gonna come back and we're going to talk
to Brandon Wikert about Venezuela because Venezuela apparently can detect
our stealth stuff. How stealthy is stealth stuff. We're gonna
have a little conversation next Trump certainly sounds like he's
ramping up this war on the cartels. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursdays. We cruised into
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the weekend. But let's come back to Brandon Wiker speaking
with our national security guy. Brandon Wiker. You really should
be hoovering up his books. Winning Space might be one
of my favorites. But we're not talking about space. We're
about to talk about Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela. Who's
helping who? What are we doing? Brandon take it.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Away, Well, I think that we are. Well, I know
we are getting ready to bomb them. I was told
that recently by somebody that I rely on for a
lot of information about US military information. It looks like
in the next two to three weeks there's going to
be something going on with US bombing of quote unquote
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drug related targets in Venezuela. But I would just remind
your audience that when Trump says we're going after the
drug lords and the drug production facilities, Venezuela is basically
running the world's largest state owned drug cartel, Which means
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if we're targeting the leadership of the cartel of the Suns,
which the big cartel in Venezuela. Technically we're gonna be
targeting Maduro, the leader of Venezuela himself, because he's basically
the leader of this cartel. So that is a little
bit of an interesting slide of hand that Trump uses
for basically saying we're doing regime change in Venezuela. We've
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moved a flotilla off the coast. We've got about about
ten I think F thirty fives. These are the Marine
Corps variants, the ones that can take off and land
like helicopters, the F thirty five B. And it looks
like we're getting ready to do something. And I think
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the reason that Trump is so gung ho about taking
out Maduro is and I don't know if you know
this is real or not. I'm just reporting what I've
heard from people close to Trump, is that the president
really believes that there was an attempt by Maduro in
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twenty twenty to basically help steal the election against him.
And if that is the case, if Trump really believes this,
the Venezuelan dictator.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Is he's not getting out of this alive.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
There's no way that Trump's gonna let him get away,
you know, and negotiate his way out of this, because
a lot of people have been asking me, like, why
is Trump so committed to Venezuela, And it does seem
a bit extreme because Venezuela you would not think is
like the number one threat to us, but Trump is
acting like it is. And I think it's because he
thinks Maduro had a hand in the you know, twenty
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twenty election steal. But that is why you're seeing this
build up. And Trump is going to go in I
think in the next two to three weeks with airstrikes.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, So I guess I have to ask the question
because I'm unaware, and I mean, maybe it's true. What
does Trump think Maduro did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, it has to do with this firm that was
started by a bunch of Venezuelan ex patriots called Smartmatic,
and they basically it's a software company that does all
of the electronic voting machines. They do a lot around
the world, not just here in the United States. And
in fact, the one of the three of the corporate
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leaders for that company are up on charges in the
Philippines for a bribering bribing election officials in the Philippines.
But they were. If you remember, in twenty twenty, they
were accused of having by Trump of having to had
a hand and stealing the election. But ultimately, whether it's
true or not, the point is Trump believes that if
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and if Trump is linking what happened in twenty twenty
him losing to what's going on in Venezuela right now,
anybody hoping for a negotiated settlement, you're not going to
get it because Trump has got the bit between his
teeth and he's.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Like a rottweiler.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
He's not going to let it go until he tastes blood.
That's why you have this build up there. And that's
why I think the person who told me we're probably
going to start bombing in two to three weeks is
probably correct because he really thinks that Maduro is like
a really and Modua is he's not a great guy,
you know, but he's not interested in negotiating with Maduro.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, So that obviously it leads us to is this
going to be a cake walk for us? Because I
would argue that most Americans, myself included, I don't claim
to be an expert, think about that regime and we think,
surely we're not going to lose anyone. Frankly, we're not
even really in danger of losing anyone. Certainly, if we're
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just dropping some bombs and doing flying some sorties. Am
I wrong?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Well, on the face of it, you're not. And initially,
you know, when we started building up, I was sort
of laughing, like this is going to be like Grenado
or like Panama in the eighties. Remember, you know, three
day war in and out. You know, we're good to go.
But then I start seeing these reports of the drone
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capabilities that Russia and Iran for the last several years
have been helping Venezuela develop, and we start hearing about
the Drino. The head of the Venezuelan military this morning
gave a press conference in which he claimed they detected
three or four of these Marine Corps F thirty five
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b's in their airspace. So that starts making me question,
are the Venezuelans being given training and capabilities by the
Russians whom they have a military alliance with. The Russians
have really proven themselves effective at using really innovative techniques
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on their radars for detecting American stealth planes. The Chinese
have also developed similar capabilities. It's not fool proof.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Still, we have a.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Lot of advantages with stealth. But the Russians in particular,
have been really developing these innovative ways of figuring out
how to pinpoint American stelt planes. And they're pretty cheap
these methods. It's not like they're reinventing new technology. They're
using existing detection technology, but they're doing it in a
really unique way. They could be showing the Venezuelans.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
How to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I know they showed the Iranians how to do that.
So this is a concern obviously, because the F thirty
five is our big primary warplane that we're going to
be sending against Venezuela. And while I do think the
Venezuelan military is not impressive, they do have certain unconventional
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capabilities that could make them a bit harder to kill
than we think. Furthermore, it's a huge country, and you know,
the last thing we want to do is get involved
in some kind of a jungle war. You know, this
is not really being considered, I think by the Pentagon
as anything other than cake walk. But we might be
surprised if we're not careful.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, we sure might. Brandon Michkaer, you are the best.
Go pick up his books. He is the best. Brandon,
thank you, my man. I appreciate you. I nerd out
on that stuff, Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I do
It is the Jesse Kelly Show, another hour of The
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Thursday. We're going to
talk about the Communists using our values against us. Here briefly,
I do want to get to this man Donnie story
out of New York City. Of course, ten minutes from now.
Ten minutes from now, our final semi final matchup of
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the crappiest country in the world tournament that's going to
determine the finals which will take place next week for
all the marbles or rice, depending on what kind of country.
We're discussing. All that, and plus Brandon Wikert about a
half hour from now, apparently the war with Iran is
gonna fire up again and Venezuela we might be dropping
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bombs on them soon. This is wild anyway, All that
is coming up in this hour on The Jesse Kelly Show.
So obviously I don't really care about what Sunny Houston
has to say about anything. So it's not about the
view or Sunny host. And what is important is that
you and I understand the tactics the enemy uses against us.
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We have to understand what they're doing and why they're
doing it so we can stop it. She's talking about
pro life and gun owners, and.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Here she is, so you're against the death penalty in
all cases because some people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I am against the death penalty in all cases. Well,
I think in all cases. And that's why I find
there is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their AR fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
From each other.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
They are pro life, but they don't care about little
children's subsidies being taken away from them.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
That is not pro life. Your pro life and you
have when AR fifteen you're not pro life. It is
a tactic. We've talked about a lot. We continue to
grow and gain more stations and listeners. So we're going
to have that discussion again briefly right now. Communists do
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not share your value system. In fact, they don't share
a value system that you would even recognize as human.
They're completely different. What motivates them is completely different. Let's
set that aside. But what it does do, what their
value system does do, is it grants them permission to
use yours against you. And the reason I will continue
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harping on this is the truth is this has been
probably the most effective tactic used by the communists on
the American right. They've been insanely successful using our values
against us for decades and decades and decades. It's really
the main reason why they were able to penetrate so
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deeply into all of our institutions. We wanted to be nice,
we wanted to be kind, we wanted to be tolerant.
Whenever they would run up against some form of resistance,
they would appeal to your humanity. I thought you loved freedom.
I thought you loved Jesus. Don't you believe what it
says in the Bible. Aren't you going to be kind?
Shouldn't you be turning the other cheek? And we, not
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realizing what was happening, not realizing why they were saying
what they were saying, constantly backed off, Well, you know
what you are right, Well, I do want to be
not nice. That Jesus would want me to be nice,
that is what he said. So I mean, okay, you can,
all right, you can have the cup scouts, all right?
You know what with the actually you can be one
of the pastors in our church. Well you know what, yet,
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you can be my son's teacher. I don't want to
be thought of of intolerant. After all, she's just a
tranny with pink hair. I don't want to look bad.
I don't want to look mean. And the second you
try to speak up, they whip out your Bible right
out of your pocket. Something they have nothing for. Disdain,
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nothing but disdain for by the way, nothing but disdain
for you and your beliefs. But they will whip your
Bible out in a heartbeat, and they'll hold it up
in your face, and they'll say, you want to own
a gun? I want to take your guns away. I
thought you said you were pro life. The Bible talks
about that. I guess you're not. Since you want to
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own a gun. Do you want to And by the way,
what I'm about to say still infects churches across this
country coast to coast.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
Do you want.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
To deport people who came here illegally or stay here illegally?
Do you think Jesus would want that? That's not what
Jesus would want. Now, this is not a person who
cares about Jesus. Believes in Jesus, reads the Old Testament
or the New Testament, nothing but disc staying for you
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and your beliefs. But they understand very well what your
beliefs are, and they will whip them out and beat
you over the face with them the second their revolution
runs up against trouble. I didn't play it for you
so you could hear this brain dead idiot on the view.
She is a moron who has been trained in communist
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tactics for years and years and years in years and years.
This is how they've been trained. This is what they do.
I'm going to play it again. Write it in stone
on your heart and understand every time they pull out
your values, it is to weaken your resistance to their revolution.
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This is a tactic they're trained here.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
You're against the death penalty in all cases because yes,
people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
I'm against the death penalty in all cases, so I
think in all cases. And that's why I find there
is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life positive.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Real quick, all, let are go in a moment, what
should just do. I've noticed there's a hypocrisy. If if
I if I sat down with you, let's say We're
sitting down at Red Lobster, and we got some mozzarella sticks,
and we got some Cajun shrimp alfredo and some shrimp scampy,
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and we're dipping our cheddar Bay biscuits in the shrimp
scampy butter as we do. Just having a conversation, you
and me, and I very frankly told you that I
thought you were a hypocrite. I thought you were being
a hypocrite about something that would hurt your feelings, wouldn't it?
That would that would you wouldn't like that? You would
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want to hear an explanation, And frankly, even if you
got mad at me, you would probably examine yourself. Oh
my gosh, am I being a hypocrite. Notice their hypocrisy
never bothers them. In fact, they try to be hypocrites,
but they understandocrisy is something you don't want to embrace.
Being a hypocrite is not something you ever want to
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be thought of. And so they understand again a tactic
that is a great way to weaken your defenses to
the revolution.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
You're against the death penalty in all cases, because yes,
people really deserve.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
I am against the death penalty in all cases, well,
I think in all cases, and that's why I find
there is a hypocrisy with certain Christians who are pro life,
but they will pull that electric chair switch. They are
pro life, but they have their ar fifteens and their cabinet.
They are pro life, but they don't mind immigrant families
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being torn from each other. They are pro life, but
they don't care about little children's subsidies being taken away
from them.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
That is not pro life.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
You call yourself a Christian. If you were a Christian,
you'd let me have my revolution. If you were a Christian,
you wouldn't believe in killing murders. If you were really
a Christian, you would give up your ability to defend
yourself from me. That way, I could send hordes of
animals to your home whenever you made me angry. If
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you were a Christian, you would give those guns up.
Aren't you a Christian? If you were a Christian, you
would allow me to import entire prison gangs from foreign
countries who will rape and murder your daughter. If you
were a real Christian and not a hypocrite, you'd let me.
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Aren't you a real Christian? They do it all the time.
They have been trained in it. They have been thoroughly
programmed in it. And the reason I will warn about
this until the day they finally fire me and take
me off the air is because it works. I've watched
it work endlessly on the right, especially on the church.
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I'm not going to bore you again with story of
losing my church after George Floyd died, not because my
pastors and he was an evil man. He's not my
pastor anymore. He's a very good man, I believe, humble,
kind human being. Not ready to deal with the Communist menace.
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They pulled him into some commie black coalition where they
scolded him for the color of his skin. He went
to a what White People Need to Know conference, and
the next Sunday stood up in front of the church
and talked about all of our white privilege. An evil man, no,
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a man who simply did not understand the tactics of
the devil and did not understand he was dealing with evil.
He did not understand he was dealing with trained subversives,
trained infiltrators, and he stood no chance stand up to
these people. Never ever, ever, let the Communists use your
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values against you. All right, all right, North Korea is
about to go to war with Haiti. No, not in
real life, although that'd be entertaining. We're just talking about
in our crappiest country in the world tournament, which continues next.
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, fantastic
(10:24):
Thursday Memory. If you miss any part of the show,
you can download the whole thing on iHeart, Spotify, iTunes.
Now there's only one more semi final matchup in our
crappiest country in the world tournament. This is for the right,
the right to go fight for your honor as being
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the worst place on earth. The championship will take place.
What is it Monday or Tuesday? Chris Tuesday? Next Tuesday
is the championship. Somalia already fought valiantly, have turned their
country into a war torn hell hole where women are
treated like garbage, and that earned them the right to
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fight for a championship. Now it's up to North Korea,
it's up to Haiti. Now it's a question. Look, you're
both talented, you're both just awful in every possible way. Horrible,
putrid places, garbage cultures. You are both wretched. So now
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it's just about effort Now it's about will who wants
it more, North Korea or Haiti.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
It's the twenty twenty five crappiest country in the world competition.
Tonight's matchup is between North Korea and Haiti. Brought to
you by Big Debbies e'urinal cakes Delicious in only ten galleries.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So let's do a brief version, a brief recap of
how are things over there in North Korea. They have
concentration camps plural that are as bad as anything that
happened in World War Two. North Korea has a real
specialty when it comes to torture. Oftentimes it's water torture.
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Oh and I should note when you're being tortured, North
Korea will arrest your entire family oftentimes and do it
to everybody, so it's something the whole family gets to
enjoy as they force water down your throat and then
step on your stomach. They jam needles underneath your fingernails,
and all the way to just hanging you upside down
and then beating you senseless. You have no rights, no
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freedom of speech. There is a strict class system where
you can't advance beyond the lower classes at all. There's slavery.
Did you think we were past that time? The North
Korean government, because people have no rights and they have
no guns, they will just show up at your house
and yank you out and turn you into an uncompensated worker,
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which is, you know, slang for slavery in one of
their minds or camps or somewhere else. You don't have
to have done anything wrong whatsoever to get conscripted as
a slave. They do this to their own people. Not
a great place, but they're up against the juggernaut. Smaller
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than North Korea, no question. They don't have the concentration camps.
But Haities. Look, this is like a boxing matchup North Korea.
They're more of a power puncher. Haiti lighter on their feet,
lighter on their feet. Look, boxing is all about matchups.
Let's meet the other contender. On the US State Department's
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advice section for if you're traveling to Haiti, i kid
you not there is advice on how you need to
choose a family member with Boom. The kidnappers can negotiate
your ransom price. So the bad news is you might
be murdered, raped, eaten, and chopped up with a machete
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in Haiti if you visit there. But the good news
is that sister you hate, you can force her to
cough up some ransom money and cost her a fortune.
Haiti's terrible. Now, I didn't know who you were going
to choose, because remember, you've been able to vote this
whole time. I believe I've only overruled you one time, right, Chris,
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one time? So I don't want to hear any more
whining about how I'm a dictator who doesn't obey the
will of the people. I do that unless you're dumb.
But for the most part, what Chris, be a nice
I let you have your say. I kind of assumed
North Korea was going to win, not because Haiti is
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anything but one of the most cursed lands on the planet.
But North Korea does have like real concentrate camps, real ones.
They still have slavery. It's unbelievably bad. But the people
have spoken, and they've spoken out in such a way
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I can't even I can't even overrule this. Haiti destroyed
North Korea in the semi finals, and didn't Somalia just
destroy India to Chris, so it looks well, it doesn't
look like it is Haiti won this round, and they
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won it easily, and credit to them. And as we've
discussed before, when you have a team in any sport
and it finally gets to the playoffs, whatever that may
be NFL playoffs or the college football playoffs or Major
League Baseball playoffs, if there's a team that's been dominating
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everyone they face, that oftentimes is the team that's going
to win at all. But how in the world do
you handicap it when you have two different teams who
have dominated all comers. Somalia is so bad they wreck everybody.
There's poop on the streets in India, and Somalia still
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just slaughtered them as if it was an unborn child. Haiti,
they eat people. I don't know how we handle this.
I don't know who you're going to choose. But now
it's up to you to vote Haiti versus Somalia. Next week.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
Go vote.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
Let your voice be heard. Now before you do that,
go get wise at Hillsteal College. Go learn about the
world in which we live. Go learn about Athens and Sparta,
learn about capitalism. Learn as a family. I want to
continue to stress this over and over and over again.
There are so many things we do as a family
(16:58):
that are just fun, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Have fun, Go play football in the backyard, go to
the pool, watch a movie, play cards, do all the
things you do as a family. But sitting down as
a family and hoovering up wisdom. It's good to have
your children see that. Not just for the wisdom Hillsdale
gives us for them to see, Oh, I should take
(17:22):
some free time and do something beneficial with it. Hillsdale
College gives us that wisdom at no cost. Hillsdale dot
edu slash Jesse no cost, go learn. All right, we're
all about to learn from Brandon Wiker national security stuff.
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Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
wonderful Thursday, reminding you to get your ask doctor Jesse
questions in for tomorrow Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
But we don't have time for that right now, because
brand is going to talk to us about bombs dropping
on Iran, and then we're gonna go to Venezuela and
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the world is coming to an end. I'm kidding, it's
not coming to an end. But our national security guy,
Brandon Wikert, author of so many great books joins US. Now, okay, Brandon,
We're gonna set Venezuela aside for just a few moments,
and let's talk about Iran. It was my understanding that
we flew around the world and dropped some bombs and
took out their nuclear facilities, and now it's been peace
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in the Middle East. Is that not the case?
Speaker 5 (18:29):
No, that's not the case.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
No, this thanks for having me, by the way. This
is this that was merely round one.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Round two is at hand, and.
Speaker 4 (18:41):
It's looking like we've moved a dozen casey one thirty
five Strato tankers into Aludd Airbase in Katar. It looks
like we've got the USS Gerald R Ford heading to
the MED that's gonna bring with it. It's air wing
of F thirty fives and FA eight teams, as well
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as the E two D Hawkeye, and.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I think that's those are the big ones out of there.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
So basically we're we are ramping up for what looks
to me like an imminent another round of hostilities. I
am skeptical, however, that the US is going to necessarily
take part directly. It looks to me like we're emphasizing
for now at least a support role, but I do
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believe Israel is getting ready to hit hard into Iran.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Okay, let's pause for a moment before we get to Israel,
because we're going to nerd out on military details that
people do not know the way you know them. So
please explain tankers. F thirty fives hawk guys, what are
these things?
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Well, so the F thirty fives, and I believe it's
I think it's the F thirty five C, which is
the naval variant, which is the one that's designed to
take off and land on carriers. They're three variants. The
Marine Corps has a variant which I think is the
most interesting one. It basically lands and takes off like
a helicopter. That's the F thirty five B. And then
the Air Force has the F thirty five A, which
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is the most boring one. And then so those are warplanes.
Those are traditional. Everybody kind of figure out what those are.
They're gonna they fly in and they bomb and they
kill the enemy. The FA eight team super Hornet, same thing.
It's a fourth generation though, as opposed to a fifth
generation plane, which the F thirty five is. But the
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interesting thing, and I'm a logistics guy by nature. So
the interesting thing is all of the movement of the
big F sorry, big KC one thirty five strato tankers.
Those are the things. They're called strategic enablers. The Air
Force refers to the mads and as that name suggests,
it basically allows or enables either our military or military
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to conduct really complex, long range air strikes against distant targets.
And as you know, the distance from Israeli airspace to
Iranian airspace is pretty big, so.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
They need to refuel at some point.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
In the first round of fight with Iran in June,
they relied. Israel did on This was not advertised, but
a picket of Casey one thirty five flew out of
Aludd in the middle of the night on that first
night and popped off the Israeli bombers and allowed for
the Israelis to continue continuously striking at Iran. So something
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similar is going to happen with the Casey one thirty five.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
I mentioned the.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
E TWD Hawkeye, which is a surveillance plane that it's
a propeller twin engine plane. It flies off of the
aircraft carrier. There's also on the carrier there would be
what is it the Growler, which is it's the same
airframe as an FA eighteen, but it basically does electronic warfare,
so it basically tries to switch off enemy air defenses.
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That allows for gaps to form, for friendly bombers and
warplanes to fly in with a reduced chance of getting
shot out of the sky. I don't know if we
would deploy the Growlers, because that would be more direct,
I think, than what Trump wants. But we very well
made to support the Israelis. But definitely those those strato tankers,
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the mid air refuelers, those are a big deal. And
also I suspect there's probably gonna be some a wax
which are basically you know, command and control planes. They'll
be orbiting the area as well, providing you know, assistance
to the Israelis on top of whatever the Israelis have deployed.
But what it looks like to me so far, Jesse
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is this is going to be a very big supporting role.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
We're going to be providing.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
But that could be problematic because I don't know if
the Israelis have the capacity to fully do really what
they want to do on their own. Ultimately, last time
we had to get involved with the b two's I
don't know if Trump wants to do that again, but
I don't know if the Israelis actually have the capacity
to do what they're saying they want to do, which
it looks like they want to do decapitation strikes against
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the regime in Iran.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
Okay, So I'm glad you brought that up, because that's
exactly where we're going next. Of course, talking to Brandon Weikert,
national security guy, what does that mean? What does Israel want?
How would Israel even go about doing it? What are
decapitation strikes? Is this basically assassinating people with fighter jets?
Speaker 4 (23:40):
Well so on paper, yes, but there's more to it.
It sounds to me like Massad Israel's intelligence has penetrated
pretty deep within the Iranian regime. They have people on
the inside. I was told during the June War.
Speaker 5 (24:01):
Somebody that I rely on, who's Israeli.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
They told me the night of the attack that there
were literally Masad agents in the bunkers with the Iranian leaders.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
So yeah, so, and people.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Don't realize how the reason those Israeli air strikes in
the opening days of that war were so effective was
because they literally had people on the ground in Iran,
hiding out, basically ranging the targets for the Israeli warplans.
I doubt the Israeli air campaign would have been as
effective as it was had it not been for that
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really effective penetration of Iranian society and.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
Their government and military.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
By Iranian I mean sorry, Israeli spies, and in many
cases the Israeli spies were women who were penetrating the
regime in more ways than one.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
But that is one of the.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Things the Israelis are very good at, is deploying their
their people into these secretive positions where they can basically
get really good targeting, and that's at play here again.
I think that the ultimate goal, and I think that
Yahoo has even said this at one point in the
last few months, the ultimate goal, the perfect vision, is
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to one way or the other, get rid of the
regime in Iran. And we saw them try that initially
in the June war where they were killing a lot
of Iranian generals. They killed some I think they killed
like the number two in Iran, and we know they
were targeting the Iranian Ayatola Krmani, which is why they
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literally the Iranians had to literally move him to a
bunker that was far removed from Iran's kind of major cities,
and they basically did not allow any kind of electronic
device into that bunker, which meant that the Ayatola was
giving orders by hand by paper, and they were physically
driving those orders to the various commands and then transmitting
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them because they were so paranoid that the Israelis were
going to kill their grand leader.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah. I gotta tell you, if all my general staff
was getting wiped out too, I'd probably start handing out
love notes myself. Okay, Brandon, do you have a few
more minutes for us after the break, because I didn't
even get to Venezuela. This Iran Israel stuff is so fascinating,
but I want to talk Venezuela with you if you
have a few Is that okay? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I do, yes, absolutely, Okay.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
So we're gonna come back and we're going to talk
to Brandon Wikert about Venezuela because Venezuela apparently can detect
our stealth stuff. How stealthy is stealth stuff. We're gonna
have a little conversation next Trump certainly sounds like he's
ramping up this war on the cartels. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a fantastic Thursdays. We cruised into
(26:54):
the weekend. But let's come back to Brandon Wiker speaking
with our national security guy. Brandon Wiker. You really should
be hoovering up his books. Winning Space might be one
of my favorites. But we're not talking about space. We're
about to talk about Venezuela. What's happening in Venezuela. Who's
helping who? What are we doing? Brandon take it.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Away, Well, I think that we are. Well, I know
we are getting ready to bomb them. I was told
that recently by somebody that I rely on for a
lot of information about US military information. It looks like
in the next two to three weeks there's going to
be something going on with US bombing of quote unquote
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drug related targets in Venezuela. But I would just remind
your audience that when Trump says we're going after the
drug lords and the drug production facilities, Venezuela is basically
running the world's largest state owned drug cartel, Which means
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if we're targeting the leadership of the cartel of the Suns,
which the big cartel in Venezuela. Technically we're gonna be
targeting Maduro, the leader of Venezuela himself, because he's basically
the leader of this cartel. So that is a little
bit of an interesting slide of hand that Trump uses
for basically saying we're doing regime change in Venezuela. We've
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moved a flotilla off the coast. We've got about about
ten I think F thirty fives. These are the Marine
Corps variants, the ones that can take off and land
like helicopters, the F thirty five B. And it looks
like we're getting ready to do something. And I think
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the reason that Trump is so gung ho about taking
out Maduro is and I don't know if you know
this is real or not. I'm just reporting what I've
heard from people close to Trump, is that the president
really believes that there was an attempt by Maduro in
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twenty twenty to basically help steal the election against him.
And if that is the case, if Trump really believes this,
the Venezuelan dictator.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Is he's not getting out of this alive.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
There's no way that Trump's gonna let him get away,
you know, and negotiate his way out of this, because
a lot of people have been asking me, like, why
is Trump so committed to Venezuela, And it does seem
a bit extreme because Venezuela you would not think is
like the number one threat to us, but Trump is
acting like it is. And I think it's because he
thinks Maduro had a hand in the you know, twenty
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twenty election steal. But that is why you're seeing this
build up. And Trump is going to go in I
think in the next two to three weeks with airstrikes.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
Okay, So I guess I have to ask the question
because I'm unaware, and I mean, maybe it's true. What
does Trump think Maduro did in twenty twenty.
Speaker 4 (29:57):
Well, it has to do with this firm that was
started by a bunch of Venezuelan ex patriots called Smartmatic,
and they basically it's a software company that does all
of the electronic voting machines. They do a lot around
the world, not just here in the United States. And
in fact, the one of the three of the corporate
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leaders for that company are up on charges in the
Philippines for a bribering bribing election officials in the Philippines.
But they were. If you remember, in twenty twenty, they
were accused of having by Trump of having to had
a hand and stealing the election. But ultimately, whether it's
true or not, the point is Trump believes that if
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and if Trump is linking what happened in twenty twenty
him losing to what's going on in Venezuela right now,
anybody hoping for a negotiated settlement, you're not going to
get it because Trump has got the bit between his
teeth and he's.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Like a rottweiler.
Speaker 4 (30:56):
He's not going to let it go until he tastes blood.
That's why you have this build up there. And that's
why I think the person who told me we're probably
going to start bombing in two to three weeks is
probably correct because he really thinks that Maduro is like
a really and Modua is he's not a great guy,
you know, but he's not interested in negotiating with Maduro.
Speaker 1 (31:18):
Okay, So that obviously it leads us to is this
going to be a cake walk for us? Because I
would argue that most Americans, myself included, I don't claim
to be an expert, think about that regime and we think,
surely we're not going to lose anyone. Frankly, we're not
even really in danger of losing anyone. Certainly, if we're
(31:38):
just dropping some bombs and doing flying some sorties. Am
I wrong?
Speaker 4 (31:43):
Well, on the face of it, you're not. And initially,
you know, when we started building up, I was sort
of laughing, like this is going to be like Grenado
or like Panama in the eighties. Remember, you know, three
day war in and out. You know, we're good to go.
But then I start seeing these reports of the drone
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capabilities that Russia and Iran for the last several years
have been helping Venezuela develop, and we start hearing about
the Drino. The head of the Venezuelan military this morning
gave a press conference in which he claimed they detected
three or four of these Marine Corps F thirty five
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b's in their airspace. So that starts making me question,
are the Venezuelans being given training and capabilities by the
Russians whom they have a military alliance with. The Russians
have really proven themselves effective at using really innovative techniques
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on their radars for detecting American stealth planes. The Chinese
have also developed similar capabilities. It's not fool proof.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Still, we have a.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Lot of advantages with stealth. But the Russians in particular,
have been really developing these innovative ways of figuring out
how to pinpoint American stelt planes. And they're pretty cheap
these methods. It's not like they're reinventing new technology. They're
using existing detection technology, but they're doing it in a
really unique way. They could be showing the Venezuelans.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
How to do that.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I know they showed the Iranians how to do that.
So this is a concern obviously, because the F thirty
five is our big primary warplane that we're going to
be sending against Venezuela. And while I do think the
Venezuelan military is not impressive, they do have certain unconventional
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capabilities that could make them a bit harder to kill
than we think. Furthermore, it's a huge country, and you know,
the last thing we want to do is get involved
in some kind of a jungle war. You know, this
is not really being considered, I think by the Pentagon
as anything other than cake walk. But we might be
surprised if we're not careful.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, we sure might. Brandon Michkaer, you are the best.
Go pick up his books. He is the best. Brandon,
thank you, my man. I appreciate you. I nerd out
on that stuff, Chris.
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I do
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