How Some Democratic Voters Are Undecided

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly
Show on a wonderful Wednesday. Did America screw up when
we failed to conquer half the world during World War Two? Yes?
I will tackle that subject in just a few moments,
But first I need to discuss something about this Minnesota assassination.

(00:24):
You know, Minnesota State Rep. Melissa Hortman. Guy shows up
at her house. Fifty seven year old man mask on,
pretending to be a police officer, murders her, murders her husband. Okay,
all right, I got this email, Oracle Supreme. I feel

(00:44):
like I fell victim to the Bongino twenty four hour rule.
Ex and Fox were claiming the Minnesota shooter of that
poor woman, Melissa Hortman, was shot by a radicalized Democrat.
They posted No King's pictures in the guy's car, Say
he was appointed by Walls, Say he was bad about
Hortman's I legals, so on and so forth. The next day,

(01:06):
I hear the left is spinning that the right is
making up all these things, that he's actually a Republican.
I don't know what's real anymore. Let the Oracle set
us straight. Was this due to radical left communist or
a radical right wing wacko. His name is John. Okay,
we have this headline too, from the Blaze phone associated

(01:32):
with the accused assassin's home traveled to Dubai, Nepal, India
and Turkey. Okay, all right, let's digest something here, and
it's not about this particular story which you've I mean,
I don't mean to insult you, but I've emotionally moved on,

(01:52):
haven't you. I only have so much emotional outrage in
my body every day. I still feel terrible for the families.
It's not that it's not a big deal, but you've
emotionally moved on. I've emotionally moved on. So let's discuss this.
It'll help us digest future things. You know how, I've
been talking a lot about discernment late lately, a lot

(02:17):
discerning information, sifting through information, because today there was an
outrageous story, and tomorrow there'll be an outrageous story, and
guess what, the next day there'll be an outrageous story,
and you're not gonna believe this. The next day after that,
an outrageous story, over and over and over and over

(02:38):
and over again, and for people, all people don't think
you're unique. I'm the same way. Everybody's same way. It's
hard to know. What do we believe? What do we
go with? Let's focus on this story. What was this guy?
We know Tim Walls appointed him to a board, but
that may mean something that made mean nothing me. Allow

(03:02):
me to explain. Here's something for you. Yes, there's a
chance that Tim Walls and this guy were pen pals
from high school and the guy wanted a gig and
Tim Walls caught him up and said, hey, crazy assassin guy,
I'd like you on a board. There's a chance that happened.
There is there's also a chance that Tim Walls never

(03:24):
met this guy or even heard of him. That Tim
Walls has a staffer whose brother's uncles brother's uncle's nephew
wanted this guy to have a job on a board
and they gave it to him. Well, there are pictures,
They have pictures. Okay, do you have any idea? Look,
I'm a dumb radio host. You have any idea? How

(03:46):
many pictures I take with people every single time I travel,
every time. I'm ounting about every single time. Hey, you
want to take a selfie? You want to can we
take a selfie? Together. And by the way, that's totally cool.
It's really cool. It's no bother at all. I'm not
come of not complaining at all. But you could be
a freaking serial killer. I'm not gonna turn you down.
I'm just a normal dude. You want to take picture,

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you want to talk, let's talk. I don't care. I'm
not gonna Hey, hey, Chris, run a background check on
this guy before we put a picture on his instagram.
You can get a picture with anybody. What's that mean?
Doesn't mean anything? So they're confusion. You mentioned the no
King's material in his car. Did you look at that picture?

(04:29):
Have you looked at it? Go look at it again
while we're talking here. I'm sure you can do an
internet search. Go look at the picture from the guy's car.
It's a stack of papers, all of them seem to say,
at least from what I can tell, no kings and

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big magic marker, no other marks whatsoever. How'd that get there?
He put it there? Do you know that? You sure
no one else? Did you sure a dirty cop didn't
put that there? Are you sure Democrat operative, Republican operative
didn't put that there? I don't know. Oh, but he

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traveled to do what was it, Dubai, Nepal, India, and Turkey. Okay,
if you picked up my cell phone and tracked everywhere
I've been in the last what three years, you will
find that I was in Turkey, I was in Paris,

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I was in Israel, I was in people travel. Maybe
he was overseas being recruited by a foreign intelligence organization.
Maybe he just loved to go on vacations by Disney.
I have no earthy and you don't know either. My
point in this little talk is not about this particular case,

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because I don't know and we may never know. And
Jewish producer Chris brought up this particular point. We are
anxious in cases like this to automatically assign a motive
that fits in our box. When I see a deranged,
violent assassin in this country, the odds are that's going
to be a Communist, because the Communists commit ninety nine

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point nine percent of the acts of political violence in
the country. Plus I don't like Democrats anyway, so it's
easy for me to say that. But maybe he wasn't.
Maybe he was just nuts. That's the point Chris made.
There are those people too, you know that story about
Gabrielle Giffrid's getting shot in the head. Remember I was
her Republican opponent three weeks I lost to her three

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weeks before. That guy showed up, shot a bunch of people,
killed people, and shot Gabrielle Gifferts in the head. And
I remember this because post assassination attempt, of course, all
the Communists tried to come down on me like they
always do. I mean, look, they all got together and
pulled the Chuck Schumer on me.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Increase in violence, the threats of violence against members didn't
happen by accident. It happened because of the coarseness of
the debate. But beyond that, the kind of rhetoric that
we hear some in the hard right hues, which at
least some people think gives them a permission structure to
do very evil.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
Things, they pulled the same thing on me. Jesse had
events where people shot guns. He was always talking about
how horrible gifference was. But I was actually curious about
that too, did you know that. I don't think I've
ever told anybody this. I was curious, and to be honest,
I was a little worried because when you go kill

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a bunch of people, and it was the person I
just lost to in a very heated congressional race. All right.
I was worried they were going to find a Jesse
Kelly bumper sticker on the man's car. I was worried. Look,
there could have been a picture of me with him
an event. You know how many people you'd take pictures
with when you're running for office. What if there's a

(08:05):
picture of me having my arm around him? What if
we sat down at a big table and at a beardinggg.
I was nervous too, Man, what if we are linked?
What if he did do it? They went digging through
all the guy's stuff. He was just crazy. He wasn't
even a Democrat, he wasn't even a Republican. He was
a nutjob. If you tried to sift through all the

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weird crap and whatever it was journal manifesto, I could
never sort through it all. But if you read through
the stuff, he seems like a crazy guy who wanted
to get famous by doing something wild. To be honest,
After we got done digesting all the stuff we read,

(08:50):
I think God saved my life. I think that would
have been me that day. I think he was going
to go kill whoever the most famous local pol petician was,
and that could have been me standing in a grocery
store parking lot. Now, granted, everyone on my team was armed,
so that guy would have never got arrested. He would
have been dead very shortly after. But you're not generally

(09:12):
gonna stop some nutball who walks up and puts one
in your head. He probably would have got me. How
would I know, come up right behind you and never
know what happened? Sometimes people were just crazy, what happened
in Minnesota? How about this? I don't know and you
don't know? And whenever the next outrage will be War

(09:37):
four and domestic who knows? We have to be discerning,
Calm down when these stories happen. Calm down and sift
through the information. We have to be sifters, and we
have to be extra sifty. Haha, how about that word,

(09:58):
what Chris? We have to be extra sifty when we
are getting information we want, we like, when we are
getting confirmation information, be extra calm and sift. All right,
let's talk about Schumer, shall we? In AOC? How do
they keep getting elected? It is the Jesse Kelly Show

(10:21):
on a wonderful wonderful Wednesday. Don't forget. You can email
the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Back to
this China thing, because Scott Pissent sat down with Miranda
Devine on her podcast. Here's what he said.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
Do you think that we're going to get to a
point that Donald Trump is said he wants where China
opens up to America.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, on the whether they'll open up, we'll see. I
believe that Chinese were feeling more pain. Their system takes
pain better, but I believe it was probably very painful
for them.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Because play that part, because I just wanted to remind
you of what had happened and what Scott Bessent and
Donald Trump are still feeling, the sting of we forget
about this and we're lost in all the war? Would
they wrong talk tonight and all that? But there are
other things at play that have a lot more to

(11:19):
do with us. Remember when the tariffs first came down
on China from the Trump administration. Remember what happened here,
not only to the stock market, to Donald Trump's poll numbers.
Right now, Donald Trump's approval continues to climb, climb, climb, climb, climb,
And unless you remember that little blip in the radar.

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You may think it was high the entire time, But
there was one moment in Trump's presidency so far, his
second presidency so far, there was one moment where his
popularity dipped, where he was not popular, and that one
moment was when he slapped China with those tariffs. China

(12:03):
responded and the stock market dipped. That's what Scott Descent
is talking about.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Do you think that we're going to get to a
point that Donald Trump is that he wants where China
opens up to America.

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Well, on the whether they'll open up, we'll see. I
believe that Chinese were feeling more pain. Their system takes
pain better.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
But what's he talking about their system takes pain better. Well,
they have a dictatorship, one party rule, dictatorship, and their
people just in their DNA. It's not that this is
Chinese people. They're not American, they're not born American. Their

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people are more likely to accept abuses to their freedom,
to accept restrictions, to accept things their government tells them.
It's just a different culture, different part of the world.
In America, our DNA, for understandable reasons, is don't tell
me what to do. Nobody gets to tell me what

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to do. But I want you to remember what Scott
Bissent just said, and I want you to remember that
little dip in the stock in the stock market, and
I want you to remember these things going forward. For
this reason, American politicians, all of them, even ones who
can't run for reelection, they are always mindful of getting

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cross with the American people, getting too cross with the
American people, and what it will mean for their power
and the power of their political party. And none of
them will push that too far. Was't this wasn't even
a criticism of anyone. It's an acknowledgment of reality. In China,

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if your Chinese stock market takes a dip for two
or three weeks, you can survive because, look, you know
the system they have in place. The Trump administration had
big dreams of yanking a lot of Chinese business and
putting it back here on American soil. Good dreams, I
might point out, that's what we should all want. But

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the Trump administration ran headfirst into that ugly, ugly woman
we know as reality, and reality is the American people
will not tolerate gigantic amounts of economic pain. You can
be popular, popular, popular, popular, popular, months of popularity. You

(14:40):
are mister popular. You're practically me an event what Chris?
And eventually people wake up one day they open up
their merrill Lynch Do they even still exist? They open
up their merrill lynch four oh one k and figure
out they lost fifty thousand dollars yesterday, and your popularity
is gone. It's a struggle, a constant struggle. Ohh, that

(15:06):
probably would be a good time to mention. Are you
paying attention to the news. You know already that Trump
met with his military aids. Do you know that? Look again,
I'm not going to sift through it because we don't
do breaking news here, but possibly, as we speak, American
bombs are dropping from the sky. Do you know what

(15:29):
the stock market's going to look like when it opens
up again on Friday? It doesn't open up tomorrow because
of Juneteenth, but you know what it's going to look
like on Friday when it opens up. You have twenty
four hours to call gold Co. Now would be a
great time to call gold Co and make sure the

(15:49):
bottom doesn't drop out again. They'll send you a free kid.
Let them take care of your retirement. Eight five five.
I have eight one seven Gold or do it online.
Jesse likes gold dot com. All right, listen to what
he says.

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Do you think that we're going to get to a
point that Donald Trump is that he wants where China
opens up to America.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Well, on the whether they'll open up, we'll see. I
believe that Chinese were feeling more pain. Their system takes
pain better.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
But I believe he said their system because he wasn't
trying to be condescending, but what he meant was the
Chinese people will take more abuses on behalf of their government.
The American people will not. There is a chance we
wake up to a rocky market on Friday. Either way,
Les do some emails. Jesse, please explain how Schumer and

(16:52):
AOC keep getting elected. New Yorkers are sick of the
immigrant baggage. Well, New Yorkers are sick of the immigrant baggage.
I'll put it to you this way, because I hear this.
I get these emails from places like New York, from
places like California, Oregon. You sent me a lot of

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these from Oregon. Washington. We have a lot of Washington State.
We have a lot of listeners in Washington State who
emails something similar. Jesse. Everyone I talk to is sick
of all these illegals. Jesse. Everyone I talked to sick
of the COVID stuff. Jesse. I don't understand how do
Democrats keep getting elected when everyone I talked to is

(17:36):
sick of filling the blanks. So let's talk about that next.
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. Remember,
if you missed any part of the show, you can
download at iHeart, Spotify iTunes. I'm going to get to
my US Navy talk in World War Two in a moment,
but I just wanted to touch on this because she asked,

(17:58):
how does Chuck schumber Kee getting elected? How's AOC keep
getting elected? New Yorkers are sick of the immigrant baggage. Okay,
let me ask you a simple question, very simple. How
many people do you know, or you yourself? How many
people do you know have said something to you at

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some point in their lives about wanting to lose weight
or get in shape? How many people? I mean everyone
said that. I've said it to you multiple times. Everyone
said that. Everyone's gotten a little frumpy from time to time.
Looked in the mirror and said, oh my gosh, I'm
cupcakeing over my boxers. This is terrible. I'vet everyone. Okay,

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now now you have that number, at least a rough number.
All right, how many did it? How many? Yeah, he's Susie.
I'll tell you what. I put on my dress last night,
and it used to fit so well, but now I'm
bursting out of the thing, and not in a good way.
I'm embarrassed. I got and then she started eating better,

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working out, got herself right. How many actually did it?
A small percentage. You don't have to find a number.
It's a small percentage. It is human nature to complain
about things yet not do anything about it. It feels
good to complain. In fact, complaining makes you feel like

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you're doing something about it. When you complain, hey, i'm
too fat in a way, and the way the human
mind works, you feel like I started to tackle the problem,
after all, I told Susie about it. Today, Blue state
democrats are all this way, all of them. You mentioned

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New York, So let's talk about New Yorkers, because, as
you know, I'm in love with the place, always have
been lovewr and I have a bunch of friends who
live there all the time, and they're all complaining about
New York City. I like it more than they do.
New Yorkers are generally like this. Though. They're complaining about
the trash, they're complaining about, Well, it was Deblasio. Now

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they're complaining. They're already preemptively complaining about Cuomo. They're complaining
about this, They're complaining about that. They're complaining about every
Eric Adams, they're complaining about the city council. They're complaining about.
Oh and by the way, I don't care if you
any of this offends you. It's true and everyone knows.
This is how people talk. They complain about every single

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ethnic group by name. And these are all my friends,
and they're from all the ethnic groups. Ah, Jesse, it's
these frigging Puerto Ricans. Yeah, well you can't The Italians
screwed up that part of town. Yeah, well, you can't
believe how bad it is in the black neighborhoods. It's constant. Okay,
what are you doing about it?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Nothing? Who you gonna vote for? Well, I don't know, whatever, Democrat.
It's human nature. It's why I've told you a million times.
It'll hopefully make a dentth in some of them. Those
magical words you say to your Democrat voting friends whenever

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they're complaining about whatever. You voted for this, those magical
four little words. Especially Democrats, they love, absolutely adore washing
their hands of the way they vote. They will vote Democrat.
They do this in California all the time. Democrat up

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and down the ballot and then the next breath. I
can't believe the taxes in this state. I can't believe
how expensive it is. It's crazy, how dirty it's gotten
in this town. It used to be so nice. You
know what you say to him, you voted for this.
I love Chicago. Chicago's the best. What a great history
in this city, great shopping sector. Oh my gosh, this

(21:59):
crime's out of control. They're all JESU. It's crazy here.
It's nuts. Hey, who'd you vote for? Oh, Brandon Johnson,
you voted for this. The Democrat voter in the blue
state is maybe the most skilled person in human history
at walking away from accountability for their own actions. And

(22:23):
that's exactly why they descend like a freaking plague of
locusts on red states all the time and show up
and start voting Democrat. Again. Ah, yeah, I destroyed California.
I voted Democrat for forty years. We can't afford to
live there now. My wife just got robbed at gunpoint.

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And that's why we're here in Montana. Oh hey, what
Democrat am I going to vote for? Now? They're famous
for it. It's amazing to watch. Now I need to
talk about something and it's really, really, really important, So
I need your attention for a second. I want to
talk about our fleet at the end of World War II,

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our navy fleet. What is this in relation to nothing whatsoever?
It was just a thought I had today. Okay, if
you have to know, I have already begun my research
on the Kamikazes of the Pacific War, because I promised
you that would be the next one, and so that
has begun. No, you're not getting it Monday. Don't get

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your hopes up. But because that has begun, I'm once
again digging through all these different books I have and things.
Hear me out, and you may you may have to
set aside your morality for this for a moment. Just
hear me out. Post World War Two, the United States

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Navy was maybe the most jaw dropping military force in
the history of mankind. We had spent so much time,
and more importantly, we had spent so much money building
up this fleet of every kind of ship, of the

(24:09):
most modern ships, that it wasn't just that we had
the best ships, which we did. We had better radar
than everyone. We had better this. We had. Better that
we had the best ships, we had the most of them.
All right with me? What can you do when you
completely control the sea and the air. You can either

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conquer anywhere you want, or at least destroy almost anywhere
you want. And you definitely can cut off any kind
of a water based country. Doesn't just have to be
an island, but any country that relies on the ocean
to get their supplies in and out, you can cut
them off. In fact, the greatest argument against dropping the

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atom bombs on Japan, for those people who disagree with
such a thing, the greatest argument against it was we
were already starving them to death. They were going to
have a rebellion themselves because we were sinking all the
ships coming in. Our navy was so incredible they couldn't
get anything in. And that was before we were fully committed.
We could have just surrounded that whole place and watched

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them starve until they gave up. Now, setting that aside,
here's my question. How much of the world could we
and should we have conquered with that naval force post
World War Two? Think of all the countries, Think of

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how many places? And I know, look, I said, set
aside your morality because I realized when I say taken,
we're talking about bombing and starving and murdering people. And
I don't think that we want that, we wish we
would have done that. But just think about this. You
have the most jaw dropping military force, at least one
of them in the history of that would be the
United States Navy at the end of World War Two.

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There is no other country on the planet that can
even really hurt you significantly on the ocean, not even
the UK. By then, we would have swept them right
off the ocean. They weren't even in our league. Nobody was.
Nobody was What could we have taken for Ourselves'll let
me put it this way. Who could have stopped us

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from taking fifty countries? You could have taken anything you
wanted and physically nobody can stop you. And because you
owned the navy, because you own the ocean. I mean,
and with that comes the air, because we had a
bunch of air based whatever you get it. We own

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the ocean, We own the air. You don't even have
to worry about your supply chains being messed up. What
if every single country on the planet sanctioned us, it
wouldn't have mattered. We would have owned all the materials.
You can just take everything and you can't do anything
about it. I bring this up because how many other

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times in human history can you find where a country
had access to that and did not use it to
expand themselves. I guess that's to our credit that we
didn't use it to go conquer the planet. It's probably
to our credit. I don't wish we did it. But
that's an interesting mental experiment, is it, isn't it who

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could have stopped us? The only thing militarily we probably
couldn't have done if the end of World War two
was invade the Soviet Union, because that's virtually impossible, and
the Red Army was honestly amazing by the end of
World War two. But besides that land invasion, we could
have taken anything we wanted. Think about that, it's not important. Obviously,

(27:55):
I was lying about that. But it's fascinating, isn't it. Anyway,
Let's get back to eat politics. Next. It is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. I have
no idea why I chose to go down that navy
rabbit hole with you, but these are the things that
cross Mike extremely messed up, low functioning mind. When I

(28:18):
start reading books and analyzing things, I think about this because, uh,
the Roman army, the Roman army was famous for this.
They would have a territory and then there would be
somebody on their border, usually a barbarian tribe, the Gauls
or someone like that, and the Romans would have this

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huge army and they would convince themselves, hey, that they
have a big army too, isn't that a threat to us?
And we have this sweet army, why don't we just
go take it? And they would go take it, and
then once they got that there'd be a border, and
then they'd look at their army and say, well, I mean,

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we we can just take it if we want to
take it. Shouldn't we take it? Why wouldn't we take it?

Speaker 3 (29:07):
It?

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Isn't it safer to take it? And they just kept
taking whatever was it. Historically, when you have the most
powerful military force, nobody can stop you. Go intil you're stopped.
You could argue maybe the greatest thing America ever did

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was not conquering the known world at the end of
nineteen forty five, has any country and I realize you're
slimming this down because of the way navies work now,
but has another country in the history of the world
ever ever completely owned the seas. Ever, we had a

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navy that could sweep any other navy in the world,
and other navies combined, by the way, several navies combined,
sweep them right off the ocean like they're gone, boom gone.
What Chris, Chris said, you could take a region. Then
you're short on manpower. But see, that's the thing about
the navy. Let's call this, uh, let's call it Australia.

(30:14):
We'll use Australia for an example. I know they were
an ally World War two. To stay with me, Let's
say we want Australia. Good, I might and what Chris,
that was good? You can't do that anyway. Let's say
we wanted Australia something crazy like ninety five percent of
Australia's population is on the coast. You wouldn't even need

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a large landforce. Honestly, just the Marine Corps would probably
be enough. You blockade Australia, bomb them the Smithereens. You
take Australia. Okay, how large of a force do you
need to keep Australia when remember you have the ocean.
You control the ocean. Who's going to come? How are

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you going to lose Australia when you control the ocean.
This is what doomed the Japanese. Well, part of what
doing the Japanese in the Pacific War. As our navy
got bigger and bigger and better during the war, we
didn't even have to take every island like they had
a huge island. This is famous. You nerds will know
this already Ruball. You can look up rue Baul. It

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was a Japanese. It was essentially a Pacific fortress where
they had all their They had so many troops and
supplies and everything stationed there. And we actually agonized over it,
do we take Rubaal? We kind of have to take Rubaal,
And then we figured out, wait a minute, why do
we have to take Rubaul. We'll just sweep them off

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the sea and let Ruball sit there and just essentially
wither away. Who can do anything about it? Put all
your troops on Ruball. That's fine. You're never gonna see
them again because we own it all. Whatever. This is stupid.
I don't know why I got on something stupid. Talk
about something more fun.

Speaker 5 (32:01):
American's favorable views of the Democratic Party brand are at
a record low, just twenty nine percent. That's compared to
thirty six percent for Republicans. It is the lowest ever
recorded for Democrats and CNN polling going back more than
thirty years.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
As you can see, the party's.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
Numbers dropping a staggering twenty points in just four years.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
See a an SR sig. That's wild. It's almost like
these people don't have the pulse of the American polity.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
I think when we win the majority in the House,
you're going to see enough Democrats make it a priority
for ICE enforcement that they are no longer faceless. It
looks too much like some eighteen hundred's bank robber or
you know, some KGB officer in Russia. You know, polling
protesters off the streets, and that part. It really bothers

(32:52):
people that that's how they're conducting it. And so show
us your face is going to be a part of
I think, you knowmocratic enforcement policy in the.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Future, stripping ice agents of their face facial protection. That
wasn't popular with Middle America. Huh. Let's check it with
Kathy Huckel. Hey, Kathy, why's the Democratic Party unpopular?

Speaker 7 (33:15):
Walking out of this courthouse? Taken away from their families.
They don't have the attention, they don't have the lawyers,
and that's why the State of New York is providing
fifty million dollars to cover legal services for people or
find themselves in this situation.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
They're taking fifty million dollars in taxpayer money and paying illegals,
paying their lawyers. That's what's happening the Democrat Party. They
handed over every ounce of political credibility they had to
the mass importation of foreign barbarians, and now they're mention

(34:00):
is to sell out every last bit of it to
keep all those people here.