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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly
Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday. Remember, we have a
bunch of stuff we have to get to still in
the show. We have to make fun of Chuck Schumer.
We're going to talk a little bit more about this
mortgage fraud stuff. People are running and eating taco bell.
That's going to be my specialty. We're going to get

(00:22):
to emails. We have so much to get to in
the show. But you know what time it is. It's
the start of the second hour on a Monday, which
means it's time for Medal of Honor Monday. It is
time to honor a hero, remember his name, and remember
his deeds. These people need to be held up in

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front of our children and our entire culture as something wonderful.
All right now, We also take emails, not just your
love hating death threats, not just your ask doctor Jesse questions.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
If you have a medal.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Of honor person that you know, or a relative or
from your hometown, or you just love, you can email suggestions.
There are a ton of them. There's a big backlog,
so don't think you're gonna email tonight and we'll be
doing it next Monday.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
That's simply not going to happen. But email them.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
We'll try to get to them. All right, We got
this one. Congressional Medal of Honor. Eugene Sasser lives in Houston.
I used to work with his son. Look him up,
maybe mention it some Monday. I believe he passed away, though,
Didney Chris? Okay, so he did pass away, and this
is Vietnam. He was actually born in Chenongo, Texas, Chanango, Texas,

(01:37):
United States Army. Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond.
It's Medal of Honor Monday for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity
in action at the risk of his life, above and

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beyond the call of duty, especiallyless five Sassar distinguished himself
Specialist fifth class. I'm sorry, I'm just going to call
him Specialist five to shorten it up. Specialist five. Sass
distinguished himself while assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters, Company, third Battalion.
He was serving as a medical aid man with Company A,

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third Battalion on a reconnaissance enforce operation.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
I'll explain that more in a moment.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
His company was making an air assault when suddenly It
was taken under heavy small arms recoilists, rifle, machine gun
and rocket fire from well fortified enemy positions on three
sides of the landing zone.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
I'll explain that again in a moment too.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
During the first few minutes, over thirty casualties were sustained
without hesitation. Specialist five Sassar ran across an open rice
paddy through a hail of fire to assist the wounded.
After helping one man to safety, he was painfully wounded
in the left shore by fragments of an exploding rocket.

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Refusing medical attention, he ran through a barrage of rocket
in automatic weapons fire to aid casualties of the initial attack.
After giving them urgently needed medical treatment, continued to search
for other wounded. Despite two additional wounds immobilizing his legs,
he dragged himself through the mud toward another soldier one

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hundred meters away. Although in agonizing pain and faint from
blood loss, Specialist five Sasser reached the man, treated him,
and proceeded on to encourage another group of soldiers to
crawl two hundred meters to relative safety. There he attended
their wounds for five hours until they were evacuated Specialist five.

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Sassar's extraordinary heroism is in keeping with the highest traditions
of military service and reflect great credit upon himself his
unit in the United States Army. All right, first, I
wanted to talk just a couple things about this and
give some clarity before we get back to news and
other things. What is a reconnaissance in force? Well, you

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don't know where they are in military matters, in battles,
in wars. This is not just Vietnam. Throughout history, we
don't think about it this way, but sometimes you couldn't
find them. You don't know where they are, you don't
know how many of them they are.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
We like that.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
We imagine that it's all satellite images, right, that you
have an exact GPS location on twenty five guys there.
It doesn't work like that at all, even today with
satellites and things like that. That doesn't work in heavily
wooded areas, mountain terrain. You just can't you can't see,
you're looking straight down. You don't have other options. You

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don't know where they are. Okay, so that's fine, you
gotta go find them. How many do you send them?
Let's rewind all the way back to Roman days. Let's
go back there before we go back to Vietnam. If
you're looking for what you think might be, remember you're
getting little fragments of intelligence. You think there might be

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a twenty thirty thousand man army of Germans or Celts
out there, which actually would not have been a large
army for them, But you think there might be twenty
or thirty thousand of them out there somewhere. How many
men do you send to go find them?

Speaker 2 (05:33):
You send two?

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Okay, If you send two, then ten guys catch them
and your two guys die, all right? Do you send
a hundred, Well that's a lot. Then you see, it's
always an argument. Now, a reconnaissance enforce operation means this.

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You are sending a oftentimes light There won't be a
huge baggage train behind them. You'll send a light light
as you can make it army of significant size, so
that if they run into problems, they don't have to
run away and they won't be wiped out. They can fight,

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but they're not going to do a super long sustained
operation because they don't have enough stuff. That's reconnaissance in force,
all right. In Vietnam, it oftentimes took on this form
and I'll get to the helicopter landing zone in a moment.
You take a bunch of your guys because of the

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jungle and pause. Remember, the Vietnamese were geniuses at hiding things.
Most people know about the tunnels. They had this really
really intricate miles and miles of tunnels, underground tunnels. There
was more than just a tunnel getting from A to
b underwater. Hospitals, sleep under there, eat under there. They

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just they were like moles. They would go under the
ground and so you couldn't see them. Even with planes
with helos walking on them, half the time you couldn't
see them. It's not like the tunnel had a sign
on it, right. So they were not only great at tunnels,
they were amazing at using the jungle to cover up

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what was there so planes and helicopters couldn't see it
from above. One story I read, and I forget what
the book was. One story I read a guy was
standing He was standing on the road, but.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
It didn't look like a road.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
And it took him a while standing on the road
to figure out it wasn't a road. So he and
his boys step off to figure out what's going on.
Here's what they find. The tree are tied together in
such a way. They string the trees together so the

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trees completely cover.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Up the road during the day.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
Then they have guys with buckets and buckets of leaves
to spread it over the road. During the day, the
sun goes down, they untie the trees. They sweep off
the road. There's now a road where an hour earlier
there was no road. And then at night they do

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all their things, driving people back and forth. As soon
as the sun's getting start getting ready to start coming up,
tie all the trees back together, dump the buckets of leaves.
The road disappears. I know it was ingenius, so they
were really quite good at it. You had to send
people out. Now, how in the world could a helicopter
Could a bunch of helicopters land and have three of

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the four sides of a landing zone immediately open up
with this kind of firepower. Let me go ahead and
spoil it for you. Either you're the most unlucky unit
in the world and you landed right in the middle
of Vietnamese company's headquarters, which did happen, or they.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Knew you were coming.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
There were so many leaks with communist sympathizers from South Vietnam,
where they would simply leak every detail of our operations
to the enemy. The enemy knew the landing zones, the
enemy knew how many guns to bring the enemy. And
look flying in a helicopter. I don't know how much

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you've done. It can be nerve racking anyway. In peacetime,
it's just a it's an awkward thing. I've never liked them.
I've told you that before. I've never liked them. I've
done it more than once. I've never liked them. In
peacetime it can be awkward and a little nerve racking
if you let your mind start playing tricks on you.
You know what it's like to have people shooting rockets

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in AK forty seven's at you when you're landing.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Or taking off. I don't I don't want to know.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Very brave man, right there, Clarence Eugene Sasser, how about that?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
All right?

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I want to get back to something JD. Vance actually said,
and then we're gonna move on. We have to talk
about we have to talk about the state, the administrative state.
I'm gonna touch on something JD.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Van said.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Member.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
If you miss any part of the show, you can
download the whole thing on iheard Spotify iTunes. And before
I get back to this shutdown what JD Van said,
I wanted to clarify I've told you before that the
history stuff I've been doing on the show that Jewish
producer Chris and producer Corey have been busting their butts
to get it on YouTube, so you can go enjoy

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the YouTube version of it, all right, and they're really
putting their heart.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
And soul into this. I'm not involved in this at all.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
They're starting to add pictures and stuff like that. It's
going to get better and better as time goes on.
And this is all free. Remember we're not charging for
any of this. If you go to the Jesse Kelly
Show YouTube page at Jesse Kelly Show, Chris tells me
they have separated out the history stuff. So if you

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want to dump the politics and they'll be able to
find it easily, Chris. Chris said, you should be shouldn't
be obvious, you'll be able to find it. You want
to nerd out on history. I know the holidays are
coming up. You know, I won't be here. A bunch
of way goes in the holidays. You want to go
just geek out on old things at Jesse Kelly Show. Yes,
that's right, Chris. Even the dirty America hating communists who

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enjoy history can go enjoy it the Jesse Kelly Show
YouTube page. All right, there you go. Now, I understand
that jd Vance has to message it like.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
The longer it goes on, Maria, the more significant they're
going to be. If you remember, we went nine days
before announcing any significant layoffs. Again, the President of the
United States wanted to reopen the government. He was trying
to work with Democrats in order to make that happen.
But the longer this goes on, the deeper the cuts
are going to be. And Maria, to be clear, some
of these cuts are going to be painful. This is
not a situation that we relish. This is not something

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that we're looking forward to. But the Democrats have dealt
us up.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yeah, it's a lie.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
I know we have to tell the lie. I'm not complaining,
but they're not painful. This is glorious. I'll explain more
in a moment. He has to keep making the rounds
and saying this, Hey, we don't want.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
Why are these firings necessary?

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Well, I just think it shows the different priorities of
Democrats and Republicans in the midst of these shutdowns. You
really have to ask yourself, who do we care more
about federal bureaucrats in Washington, d c. Or low income
women and getting the food benefits they deserve. Our troops
getting the payment they need, flood insurance across the southeast
in the midst of hurricane season, some federal workers, Kristin,

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if you would let me finish, we have to lay
off some federal workers in the midst of this shutdown
to preserve the essential benefits for the American people that
the government does provide. So we don't want to be
in this situation. We don't want to be laying off
federal workers. But the Democrats have shut down the government.
They have forced us to choose.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Okay, that's the messaging, and it's smart messaging. I'm not
complaining at all. Smart messaging, but no, we need this.
And I'm going to play you something. It's gonna sound unrelated,
it's not. This is John Solomon. He does just the news.
He does a bunch of really good reporting. In fact,
we should get John on I like John a lot
John's He's oftentimes has the scoop before there's a scoop.

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Do you remember the letter that was signed by fifty
one intelligence officials saying that Donald Trump, you know, colluded
with Russia? So or no, no, this was the one
that said Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation?

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Do you remember that? Listen to this. This is a
very important email.

Speaker 3 (13:57):
It comes from the PHARMACYIE director, Mike Well, yes, the
guy that organized that letter from the fifty one intelligence
professionals who tried to thank you into thinking that the
Hunter Biden laptop was Russian disinformation when it wasn't. It
is between him and John Brennan, one of the signatories.
You know John Brennan is he was Obama CIA director, Right,
He's the guy that told Obama, hey, Hillary Clinton is

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doing a dirty trick on Donald Trump called Russia collusion. Well,
this is just before the presidential debate between Donald Trump
and Joe Biden. Hunter Biden's laptop is flinging out there.
This is what Mike Merrell, FORMACI director tells his successor,
John Brennan, Hey, sign this letter because I'm quote, trying

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to give the campaign, particularly during the debate on Thursday,
a talking point to push back on Trump on this issue.
A man with a security clearance, a man with the
title of CIA director, knew that he wasn't creating an
intelligence product americ civic duty with fifty one people. He
was trying to create a political moment.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
I want you to take this in and how significant
this is. And I realized this is stuff we knew.
But the Central Intelligence Agency is the largest, most well funded,
most powerful spy agency on the planet. Multiple directors of

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the CIA. We're not talking some dirty COMMI in the
mail room. Directors of the Central Intelligence Agency have chosen
to declare war on the American right up to and
including lying to the American people so Joe Biden could

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win an election. Now back to the cuts, the deep
state cuts, they have to be a lot deeper than
four thousand people. It doesn't matter who the next president is,
or the one after that or the one after that.

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If we have a million communists throughout the government working
to undermine every Republican administration, trying to kneecap it to
buy time until the Democrats come back and the revolution
can continue apace. We can't survive like that. The rot

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is deep. It's at the highest levels of our government.
The clean out must be deeper. You have to get
all the cancer. You can't leave even a little behind
when in doubt, cut too deep. I know we have
to take the public line of I don't want to
do it, but I hope that's not the actual attitude.

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Cut deep.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
All right, all right, lose some emails.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Next it is the Jesse Kelly Show, a fantastic, wonderful Monday.
Remember you can email u's Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
Let's get to a lot of these now, tiny hands, Jesse.
I've never been more upset about anything you've said or
done on your show than your rigged election for Haiti.
Somalia is a war torn hell hole. Are you some

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hackey set kicking man, bun latte drinking hippie that believes
Haiti is cursed so you can just change the election results?
So many people are mad that I changed. Look, I
told you before the voting started that I ultimately retain
veto power, so you could beg plead name of a

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just merciful gun.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
I'm not changing anything.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Haiti's worst country on Earth, Jesse being as how you
pretty muche hundred percent and nailed it. In terms of
what needs to be done by the Department of Justice,
Pam Bondi, with help from Cash Betel and Dan Bongino,
someone needs to go to jail. With the influence and
can actions you have. Is there any way you can
get a meeting with the Justice Justice Department head of

(18:05):
the FBI and let people know that people want and
demand that someone goes to prison. I listen almost every night.
I learned so much from you, so on and so forth. Okay,
all right, so let me let me say this. I
have used this analogy multiple times. In fact, I'm pretty
sure I used it on Thursday. But I'm going to

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use it again, and I am worried that it very
much applies to our government.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
To hang with me.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
If you have lived your life, Let's say you're forty
years old and you've never exercised, and you eat terribly,
and you weigh three hundred and fifty pounds. All right,
so everything else aside all the other health problems, you
are not just out of shape. You're somebody who you

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don't even really understand what it means to be in shape.
You don't even have like the base muscles under all
that fat. And if this is you, by the way,
you can change it. I'm not trying to insult you.
I'm just explaining.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Let's say you visit Montana. You go up to Glacier
National Park. You want to pick huckleberries. You'll probably put
them on ice cream, but either way, you want to
pick huckleberries. They're amazing. And while you're out there, a
very large, very angry, grizzly bear starts charging at you
from across the field. Now, the situation is this. You

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have to get away. You have to Your car is
half a mile away. You have to sprint half a mile.
It's not an option. You're going to die if you don't.
But you can't. Yeah, you have to, but you can't.

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I just brought up the administrative state. For decades, the
communists have set out to do something, and they've been
extremely successful. They've sought out to do two things. Fill
the government up with committed communists who will always work
for the revolution, while at the same time protect government

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workers from being fired. You realize how absurd it is
that we need special circumstances like a government shut down
to let go of four thousand government employees. These people
work for the taxpayer at any time. The president should
be able to walk into any organization and say you're fired,
you're fired, you're fired, you're all fired. They should be

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the easiest people to fire in the country. They're the
hardest people to fire anyway. Communists have worked for decades
to do that. Now, let's specifically talk about the DOJ
in the FBI, because you and me, we understand. They
have to run that half mile. We have to have

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John Brennan in prison, James Comy in prison. This has
to happen to save our country. Corrupt government officials have
to go to prison. We have to have it the FBI.
ANTIFA is an international, not national, international terrorist ring, communist

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terrorist ring committing acts of violence across the globe. They're also,
like many terrorists organizations, extremely decentralized, which makes it more
and more confusing. There's not one head of ANTIFA. It's difficult.
We have to have an FBI that can and will
track it and filtrate it and destroy it. We have

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to have that. We got to run that half mile
Grizzly Bear's coming. But are we too fat? Let's just
let let's let's address the FBI first before we get
to the DJ. The FBI for years and this got

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turned into overdriving to Obama. We've talked about it many
times before. Obama was not passive. Obama dug in and
he started retiring everybody he could who might be against him,
while at the same time promoting into leadership all the
committed communists who hated America like he did. Now that

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was back during Barack Obama. Those communists have in turn
been purging others and promoting other communists and hiring new
communists and new communists. The entire organization is garbage crap.
Now let's go to the DJ. Let's say Pam Bondi
is the sword of God we've been looking for at

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the DJ, which obviously she's not. My thoughts are well known.
But let's say Pam Bondi was a maze. She's one woman.
She has to track down and prosecute the financiers of
all this. She has to track down James Comey, John Brennan,
go up against two thousand dollars an hour attorneys. She
needs horses. She needs a legal team. Well, where you're

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getting those people? The communists have filled up the law
schools in this country for ages. They're the most left
wing group in any university. It's the law schools that's
one two. On top of all the scumbag lawyers who
are totally America hating dirt balls who graduate law school
every single year. Pam Bondi has to go up against

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this fact. The left, these legal associations in the country
set out and succeeded in many ways to destroy any
lawyer who represented Donald Trump. Any lawyer involved in the
Trump area got destroyed, disbarred, you name it. Now, even
let's just say Jewish producer Chris was a lawyer, which

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is not a huge stretch to imagine. Let's say Jewish
producer Chris is a lawyer. He's obviously a hardcore right winger.
Let's say he's a great one. He's one of these
two thousand dollars an hour attorneys. All right, hey, Chris,
I need you to come work for the DOJ because
I have to throw deep state communists in prison. Well,

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Chris has worked for twenty five years building up Chris
and Chris Jewish lawyers. It's the law practice. What, Chris,
it's your name of your law firm out of New York.
They're happily right wing, huge law firm, lucrative. He has
to understand. If he comes to work for Pam Bondy

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throws James Comy in prison, he quite possibly loses everything
he's worked his whole life for. We have to run
a half mile. We have to do it really, really quickly,
because that grizzly bear is coming. We have to do it.

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We might be too fat. I'm not trying to be doomer.
I'm not bad to answer your question. Hey, can you
can you who's asking me? Can you use your influence
to let them know to talk to them about this?

Speaker 2 (25:24):
I think I haven't.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Think my cell phone is just for playing angry birds.
Think I haven't. No, Chris, I don't play it anymore.
I used to be quite good. Oh, it is the
Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Monday. Remember you
can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com.
So let me tell you something speaking of running or

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not running or being out of shape. I don't run
really anymore. I go on rocks I go on hikes.
That's what I try to do for cardio. I don't
run because my freaking knee will start. Shut up, Chris,
you're gonna be forty four one day too. My my
knee doesn't like it. I'll put it to you that way.

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It doesn't like it. So I've given up running. No need,
no need? What Chris? What Chris said? So I loaded
up on a ruck. You sound like my wife. Okay,
Bob said the exact same thing. If you can't run,
then why are you doing that? It's totally different, all right,
it's kind of different. It's a little bit different either way.

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I don't run anymore, but I think I'm gonna start running.
Denver hosts a thirty one mile run where racers have
to constantly consume taco bell. I think I could do it,
because the problem is it's a problem of motivation. You see,

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it's a problem motivation.

Speaker 2 (26:58):
If I don't.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
If I don't feel the desire to run to get
in shape, and I don't, I mean, you can rock
and hike and be in great shape, it's fine, Then
why would I go? I would go if there was
free taco bill the whole time, and maybe you're thinking,
but then you wouldn't be able to run. No, it's
called fuel. I used to before we go on these

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long humps in the Marine Corps. I used to get
I used to go out the night before and I
would get two foot long subway cheese steaks, you know,
the authentic ones.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
Two of them.

Speaker 1 (27:33):
The first one I would consume right there on the spot,
the night before a hump. The second one I would
wake up hammer it right before we took off. You
can mock me all you want. That is filling up
your body with the energy it needs, the good healthy
nutrition you need to get all the way. It is amazing, well,

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at least it used to be amazing, and I highly recommend.
I say used to be. Chris said, how did you
not puke?

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Who said?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
I didn't puke? That's one two. You know, people who've
never done humps, or the forced marches is what people
normally call them. We call them humps in the Marine Corps.
People who've never done humps don't understand how completely draining
they are to the body because it just looks like
guys are walking with packs on. When you get off.

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You want to hear something gross. Then we're gonna do
some emails. You want to hear something disgusting. When you
get done with a hump, like you'd get back to base.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Let's say you.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Did ten miles. You drop your pack, you drop your gear.
You'll be soaked, obviously in sweat, soaked all the way through.
Your camis soaked through all of it, very quickly. It
will dry. In your green camis or even desert camies,
whatever kind you're wearing, they will be practically white.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Why are they white?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Because your body has sweated all the salt out of it,
and now when your cami's dry, they are so crusted
with salt you can stand them up against the wall
when you're done. They're brutal, man, They're absolutely brutal. But
it's a great way to read out the men and
the boys. Dear Jesse the cannon ball Kelly, I think

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the majority of our country's problems started with the hippies.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Sounds like my dad.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
The drugs, the rebellious attitude, and the communist sympathy and beliefs.
When you think of the Americans in thirties and forties,
they were people dressed nice, and they spoke more elegantly,
and they were patriotic. There's a the guy wasn't alive
during the sixties and the drug era and things like that.
I think a lot of there are a lot of

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people who feel the exact same way, and you're probably
not necessarily wrong about that, about that playing a part
in it, I don't.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I'm not arguing.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
I don't disagree, But in my opinion, I think a
lot of where we are today is because of Vietnam.
And I don't mean the war itself, which you can
have your own opinions about. I talk about it all
the time. I'm talking about the government lying to us,
knowingly lying in order to manipulate the American people into

(30:22):
justifying them doing something. I'm not dumb. I know governments
always lie. I know the American government has lied a
bunch of times throughout history. But I would argue just
my argument. I know you'll email me smart things if
you disagree. I would argue that that is the first
time in American history where the White House itself chose

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to tell gigantic, outright lies to the American people to
justify a large scale military action where tens of thousands
of Americans died. They lied, and they knew they lied,
and that that, in conjunction with all that hit the

(31:09):
sixty druggy weird crap, that, in conjunction with those two
things together shattered the bond the American people had with
their government, and it has never recovered.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
And I have asked.

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Older people who were alive back then. I've asked them
about my theory on this. I'm not the only one
who has this theory. Other people have said it, other
people have thought it, and almost to a man and
to a woman, said, oh, yeah, that's true, that the
bond was shattered. What Chris Chris said, why did the
White House think it was so important to go and

(31:42):
fight in Vietnam? You know, I'm not trying to dance
around your answer, but that's actually not important in my opinion.
The important part of I'm trying to say is it's
not the actual fighting of Vietnam. The White House wanted
something they knew the American people did didn't want, and
they chose to just tell gigantic, outright lies to the

(32:07):
American people. And that is something we have never recovered from,
never recovered from. You said, why lie? But whyley? Because
we didn't want to go The American people didn't want to.
The American people have a non Our founding was non interventionist.
You stay out of it. Now, you if you want
to go send one hundred thousand troops to the jungles

(32:30):
of Vietnam. We all know Vietnam today. Nobody knew Vietnam
back then. No one cared about it. No one knew
about it. There was nothing the Johnson administration and Kennedy,
let's be honest, he was one who started it. There
was nothing they could have told the American people to
make them care about Vietnam. But they cared about Vietnam,
so they lied. It's is bad, all right, enough of this.

(32:54):
Let's talk a little bit about democrats getting arrested.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
That's awesome. Hang on,
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