Medal Of Honor Monday featuring Coast Guard World War 2 vet Petty Officer Douglas Monroe

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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It is the Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of the
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medal of Honor Monday.

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In a minute. Brandon Darby's coming up about a half
hour from now, Cartel chronicles. We will address some of
these trunk cabinet picks, some emails, all that and so
much more. And again remember oh and the kids. They're
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right now, only without the torture. I still have all
my body parts and stuff. But that's me right now, braveheart.
In fact, we're really similar anyway. But beyond that, let's
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suggestions or or hate or death threats, whatever you want,
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are great names. I'm a disabled Coastguard veteran. We listen
every day while I'm driving the turns around to whatever
the next sporting event is, and while being the ugliest
soccer mom on the planet for my grandsons. All you
quit that, lady. We'd like to hear about the only
Coastguard stud to receive the Medal of Honor, Douglas Monroe.
The more history you do, the more we like it.

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And without further ado, let's do the Medal of Honor
citation the Medal of Honor celebration of a man who
was a lion, Douglas Albert Monroe.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Hey, honoring those who went above and beyond its Medal
of Honor Monday.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
For extraordinary heroism and conspicuous gallantry in action above and
beyond the call of duty as petty officer in charge
of a group of twenty four Higgins boats engaged in
the evacuation of a Battalia Marines trapped by enemy Japanese
forces at Point Cruise, Guadalcanal on the twenty seventh of
September nineteen forty two. After making preliminary plans for the

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evacuation of nearly five hundred beleaguered Marines. Monroe, under constant
strafing by enemy machine guns on the island, and at
great risk of his life, daringly led five of his
small craft toward the shore. As he closed the beach,
he signaled the others to land, and then, in order
to draw the enemy's fire and protect the heavily loaded boats,

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he valiantly placed his craft with its two small guns,
as a shield between the beachhead and the Japanese. When
the perilous task of evacuation was nearly completed, Monroe was
instantly killed by enemy fire. He was not all explain
in a moment, but his crew, two of whom were wounded,
carried on until the last boat loaded and cleared the beach.

(03:15):
By his outstanding leadership, expert planning, and dauntless devotion to duty,
he and his courageous comrades undoubtedly saved the lives of
many who otherwise would have perished. And he gallantly gave
his life for this country. And I just want to
say a couple of things before I play taps for him.
That's a very very short citation, but Monroe is a legend.

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He's not just a Coastguard legend. He's a legend period.
He's a Marine Corps legend. When I was in the Marines,
we knew about Douglas Monroe. So let me explain why
at Guadalcanal. You remember, as I've tried to kind of
lay out for you specifically when it comes to World
War War two in the Pacific, in really the Greater War,

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but in this Pacific. Remember, nineteen forty two was a
terrible year. That was the beginning of it. We didn't
get a tack till December seventh, nineteen forty one. Okay,
so nineteen forty two, that was the year where we
really we had some tough slogs, some wins with some
tough slogs. We didn't really turn things around to the
end of that year nineteen forty three. But in the beginning,

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we didn't know what we were doing in a lot
of different ways. And one of the things we really
did not really understand is it's so difficult and complicated
is amphibious landings. Higgins boats. We were using Higgins boats.
That's a boat. All you need to know is that's
a boat where if you're a marine, a marine platoon.
You get off your big transport ship and you'd step

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into a Higgins boat and that's the boat that would
drive you to shore. Well, Douglas munro one had already
lived a life of service. He had lived through the
Great Depression, but his dad ended up holding his job,
and so they considered themselves wealthy. Douglas Monroe used to
go to the woods and split firewood to deliver it

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to people for free, so they could have wood and
warm their homes in the Great Depression. It just tells
you that's the kind of mentality this guy has. He
goes down, he signs up for the Coastguard. Now move
to Guadalcanal. I just I'm going to have a hard
time putting this kind of bravery into words, because it's
hard to describe when you are being shot at. If

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I was to put you, let's say there's a bunch
of big boulders, big huge boulders the size of a car,
and you were standing in and around these big boulders,
and I walked two hundred yards away from you and
started shooting at you. You would still be nervous, wouldn't you.
Big boulder or not being bullets bouncing off the ground.

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You are, you have big boulders in front of you,
and still am I going to catch a ricochet? As
the bullets rackling by, you would hear it and you
would WinCE, you would you would tense up, kind of
do that thing that's with boulders when you are coming
in on the water. There aren't any boulders, There aren't
any logs, there aren't any bunkers, there isn't any anything.

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You are naked as the day you were born, and
the Marines were being brutalized on that beachhead. That's why
it's so dangerous. You've seen the D Day stuff. That's
why it's so hard to land on a beach and
take a beach. There's nothing to hide behind. Everyone's looking
down at you. They've prepared their defenses, they know you're coming.
Their guns are already sighted in and they're chopping you up,

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chopping you up. And Monroe gets the call on that
day to come rescue the Marines because they are being
chewed up and spit out. And you need to understand,
I've read more World War Two in the Pacific books
that I can count. You need to understand how many
guys who were driving the boats Higgins boats and otherwise

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chickened out. And I wish I didn't even have to
put it that way, but I don't have another way. Hey,
I'm coming to pick up this group of marines. That's
too much fire. I'm turning around. I'm leaving, best of luck,
or I'm coming to drop off this group of marines
or army guys. There were army guys there too. Nah,
I don't want to get too close. This is too
much fire. You guys, just get out. And the guys

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are drowning because he dropped them off too far. It's
not as if every one of these guys driving one
of these boats was some kind of a lion. That's
not how it was. You're vulnerable, you're scared. Most of
them signed up to join the friggin' Navy or the Coastguard.
And that's not dogging on the Navy and Coastguard like
I normally would do. But you're not expecting to catch
bullets in your face when you do that. And Douglas

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Monroe approaching a situation that would have sounded like hell?
Can you imagine the screams and the nightmare as you
drive up on a boat to a beat where marines
are being slaughtered. What you'd see that day would stay
with you in your nightmares for the rest of your life.

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And as he's driving up rounds landing all around him,
not only did he not turn around, he chose to
put himself in front of machine gun fire on purpose,
so marines could get off of that beach and find

(08:28):
some safety. And the reason I said, that's not true
when it says he was killed instantly, Oh, he was shot.
He was shot in the base of his skull. That's
what happens to heroes most of the time. Most of
these Medal of Honor citations I read, they're dead and
don't make it through it. He did regain consciousness for

(08:49):
a brief second. And you know what, Douglas Munroe said.
He didn't call for his mommy. He didn't say tell
my wife I love her, not that there would have
been anything wrong with any of those things. You say
whatever you want. In that moment. His eyes flittered open
for the briefest moment before he passed, and he asked,

(09:09):
did the Marines make it out? Now?

Speaker 4 (09:15):
That's awesome.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
As I have said, Beny many times before, I don't
know how to raise my sons to be that that
type of guy, but I want to know, and that's
what I want. All Right, we're gonna get to uh,
let's let's get to this surgeon General pick. Let's have
a frank talk about the cabinet, which I like, I'll

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tell you, but there are some there are some stinkers
in there. Let's talk about that before we get to
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Speaker 1 (11:54):
Of course, we just had an amazing Medal of Honor. Monday.
We have Brandon Darby Cartel crime nicles coming up ten
minutes from now. I have so many questions for Darby.
I might have to keep them on for two segments
about Mexico's new president, what we can expect with Mexico
and Trump and things like that. But first, let's just
I want to do this quick because I don't want

(12:14):
to spend a lot of time on it. The cabinet picks,
for the most part, I've been very happy with Trump's
cabinet picks. They've been very good for the most part.
Hag Seth is unbelievable. Home run Gates would have been
really great. Now we have Bondi, who won't be She
won't be as good. Look I got this email good segment.

(12:36):
Marine was not impressed by Bondi and Florida. You have
it right. I don't think she's gonna have the guts
to go in and clean house. Listen, maybe she will,
maybe she won't. We need people to look internal, but
most of these people seem like they want to look internal.
Elon Vivek talk about cutting government. Holman's going to be

(12:57):
deporting people. Rubios Nam very average on Rubio, but whatever
he Secretary of State, go hang out with the other
losers at the State Department. But there is a stinker
in here to a level that I hope the GOP
Senate shoots it down. That's how terrible this doctor Janet

(13:19):
or Jannette whatever her name is, this doctor Janet pick Is.
Trump picked this lady to be surgeon general. Now I
understand COVID is an obvious blind spot for Trump.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
It is.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Donald Trump was pretty good president for three years and
then just lost his mind and crapped all over himself
during COVID, handed the country to Fauci, locked downs, operation
warp speed, everything you could possibly imagine. He was awful,
no excuse for it. Again, If this offends you, I
don't give a crap. This is not your mommy's show.
He was awful, inexcusably bad. So I guess, I guess

(13:54):
maybe you can understand these I I guess maybe it
can Stan White pick someone like that.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
First of all, vaccines saved lives, and I am so excited,
and I think and I commend Facebook and Mark Zuckerberg
for taking action.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
Because this affects everyone.

Speaker 7 (14:10):
This affects our children and affects adults. We just look
at the recent measles outbreak, the biggest outbreak that we've had.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
In decades with measles. And that's no joke.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
That's her praising Mark Zuckerberg on Facebook for censoring the
truth about COVID. This is going to be our next
surgeon general. She's not stopped. Oh wait, there's more.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
We see more hospitalizations with those under the age of
fifty and our children, and we now are running.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
Out of ICU bits.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I reminded to you that COVID was never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
ever ever a threat to children at all. The children's
numbers are so small it doesn't even bear talking about.
It was never a risk to kids. Your kids school
would shut down for no reason whatsoever. It was all tyrannical.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
When you if you look at Arkansas, Alabama, Louisiana, Tennessee,
we are running out of hospital beds. We are running
out of ICU beds the healthcare.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, we never ran out of hospital beds. Here was
her too.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
So if you go outside and there's no one around,
then the risk of you picking up the virus is low.
But consider this, there could have been someone walking by
who coughed and sneezed. And remember this virus can remain
in the air for a few hours, So you are
taking that chance of you know, even though no one's there,
was there someone there two minutes prior and you could.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
Have just walked into Yes, the new surgeon General wanted
you to wear a mask outside walking by yourself. I'm
not even kidding. She also was very concerned that we
weren't going to be able to have enough abortion.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
But as a doctor, I'm concerned for safety. I'm concerned
that are we going to see an uprising back alley abortions?
Am I going to see young teenagers trying to involuntarily
hurt themselves by trying to self abort, you know, their
fetuses out of fear and not knowing what to do
and not having alternatives?

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Okay, I realized she did come out more recently because
those are older, and she said she had a change
of heart.

Speaker 8 (16:02):
We know and we've learned. Blockdowns, the shutdowns, the social distancing,
wearing the flimsy surgical or cloth masks. They are not effective.

Speaker 6 (16:10):
The key here is understanding and knowing your.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Risk and taking the steps to protect yourself. We know
what works, we know what doesn't work, Anita, I have
taken care of thousands of COVID patients on the front
lines these past three years of the pandemic, so I
can tell you I know firsthand what works, and it's
all about focusing on those who are at high risk.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Again.

Speaker 8 (16:28):
You know, when I had patients who were hospitalized or
who lost their life from COVID, it wasn't your nineteen
year old college student. It was I had patients that
had heart disease, a trial fibrillation, patients who were obese
and struggling to breathe.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Okay, all right, let's just get past it, and let's
just acknowledge what it is. She's not a system challenger,
She's a system servant, probably not a bad person, but
a servant of the system. And you know how we
talk about the legitimacy you give to these corrupt institutions

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is the weapon they will use to attack you. She's
a human being who gives them all kinds of legitimacy. Well,
I mean, Harvard had this to say, and it's really bad.
It's a terrible pick. It's a terrible pick that it's
something Trump is still terrible on. He's still out there
publicly bragging about Operation Warp Speed, one of the most evil,

(17:24):
disastrous pieces of legislation in the history of the United
States of America. I'm not gonna dwell on it because overall,
I'm very, very happy with his cabinet. So I'm not
going to major on Surgeon General. I am not, but
i will tell you, if we get another disease in
this country in the next four years, you can count
me out on listening to either of these two. That's

(17:45):
for dagon Sure. I'll be banking on myself from now
on because these two aren't gonna get it done at all. Whatever. Overall,
it's a good cabinet. She's a real stinker, and I
mean a real stinker, but they both kind of stink
on the issue, and we'll move on. I'm not going
to get myself upset. I'd rather talk about sweet cartel stuff,
and I'd rather talk to you about fire fighting equipment.

(18:08):
Not only is firefighting equipment really cool and firefighters are cool,
but people in Israel need it. Sounds kind of odd though,
why would they need firefighting equipment doesn't make sense. Well,
that's because we have an American way of viewing things,
where we are generally within nice driving distance of somebody
who can put out a fire. That there are people
all over northern Israel firefighters or farmers who have to

(18:31):
become firefighters because Hesbelad drops these rockets on there and
it starts a fire in the frigging fields and then
there's no one coming to save you. So where does
one acquire firefighting equipment? Last time I was in a
big box store, I didn't see it. Well, that's where
the IFCJ comes in. The IFCJ provides that so people

(18:55):
can fight fires and live. These are the things they
do because they're on the ground and know about things
we don't know about. Help them get some firefighting equipment
in these people's hands. Eight eight eight four eight eight
if CJ eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ Brandon

(19:16):
Darby next Jesse Kelly's Show and joining me now my
friend he is the Big Cheese Cartel Chronicles he knows
all about illegal immigration. You need to check out his
work at Breitbarty. Even though his taste in music, Brandon,
what the what was that?

Speaker 4 (19:33):
I love Roy Orbison? I will always love Roy Orbison.
Thank He's wonderful all the way from from that, all
the way through the Traveling Wilbury's love them respectum.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
Okay, Traveling Wilbury's. I do have to give you credit
for End of the Line is one of the more
underrated songs out there. I will actually give you that, Okay. Anyway, Brandon,
first of all, we I have a bunch of stuff
I want to go over with you. A Mexican president.
How did Mexico one end up with a woman that
is really shocking to me for Latin America and two

(20:07):
end up with a communist woman as president? What happened?

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Well, first off, Mexico is very very left right, so
depending on who, well, they've always been very left. I
think it has to do depends to you ask right.
So if you were asked Steve Bannon, he would probably
say that they've experienced abusive forms of capitalism. And then
it you know, when you have so few people from

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a period of time where there was colonialism, and there's
so few people, there's so little economic freedom that there's
so few people who have all of the wealth. And
it's always been that way, and there's so little opportunity
because of the lack of economic freedom that results from corruption,
that results from cronyism, that results we can go down

(20:54):
the line that people tend to not you know, people
tend to gravitate towards paulicy, these that distribute wealth when
there's only twelve people who own everything, right, And I
think it kind of stems from there, you know. Here,
you know, we have a large, heavy degree of economic freedom,
a larger degree of economic freedom, but we have that

(21:15):
dispersed amongst the me They do not have that, and
they never have, and so people turn towards leftist policies.
I don't think it's great. I think that it would
be ideal if they had a lot less corruption so
their economies could flourish, and a lot less chronyism so
their economies can flourish. But that's not what they have had.

(21:37):
They probably have it more so now than ever. But
that's where that stems from.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Okay, so they're generally left anyway. That's how this GM
got elected. It's just kind of a left country. I've
just donne that they would e liked a woman, to
be honest with you.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Well, here's what happens. So every time there's a new
Mexican president, people are fed up with the corruption in Mexico.
That president, the new president in certain name, promises to
end corruption, promises to do something about violence. So when
people when the current president is trying to appease cartels

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and there's still violence, then they elect someone who's going
to crack down on cartels. When someone cracks down on
cartels and there's still violence, then they elect someone who's
going to appease cartels. Right, it's absurd, but this is
what happens when we talk about Mexico. We've said this
on this show many times. Mexico it's not a failed state.
It is considered a fragile state. You have thirty two states,

(22:38):
well thirty one in the federal district. They say thirty
two states, and more than half of those territories are
under the physical control of paramilitary drug cartels. Right, So
when the Mexican government wants to go arrest somebody, the
sets can't just show up like they do here. They
have to send in their marines, They have to send

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in their elite military units in force and in mass
to go and challenge at cartel who controls territory there.
And that's most of the spaces along the US Mexico
border as well, by the way, So you know, you
have to think about that. They live in a very
different situation. I think it's a lot of desperation. Why
people do that.

Speaker 1 (23:20):
Yeah, I wanted to ask you. Actually, I'm sorry we're
getting in the weeds, but I find this stuff fascinating.
He brought up, You brought up how they have control
my Boddy, my best friend down here. Actually Mexicans, whole
family's Mexicans, white whole families Mexicans and were always talking
about this stuff. And his family he wasn't there, but
his family, entire extended family, was driving through one of
these states to see some relatives. Got pulled over by

(23:41):
the cartels and it was a very official thing. Obviously
there was a threat to it. But they said, who
are you? Why are you here? They said, well, this
is our name. We're going to see these people. They said, okay,
stay right here on the side of the road as
long as you are who you say you are no problem,
They make some phone calls, sit there for an hour.
Apparently they got back the information they wanted. They were
given water by the cartels. Pad it on the back

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said you were free to go and you are safe here.
Move on. When you say control, I don't think people
understand the level of control these cartels have. That they're
paving roads and building schools. It's they are the government.

Speaker 4 (24:17):
They are the de facto government. That's right. And a
lot of a number of states in Mexico. You know,
people all the time say I went to Mexico's fine.
It's like where'd you go? You went to Cancun, you
went to Acapulco. Where did you go? You know? Because
the majority of what Mexicans live under is very very bad.
They can't call nine one one like you and I can.
And not only can they not call nine one one

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because most of the law enforcement and government apparatus actually
are the henchmen for the regional cartel, but they also
can't own sufficient firearms to defend themselves. Another leftists. Again,
we talked about leftism. They hate firearms and they hate guns.
So the only people who have them are the government
who works for the cartels, oftentimes in the cartels, and

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what do you do in a situation like that. They
hate guns as much as we intrinsically more than we
hate communism, because apparently half of our country is OK
anywhere that are almost half of them. But they hate
guns like like like we hate pedophiles, right like they
hate guns. It is just ingrained in them and as
a general rule, and it's it's a you know, it

(25:23):
creates a scenario where where people cannot defend themselves and
they don't have the freedom to speak out. That's why
we do the cartail chronicles. Journalists get killed there. It's
you know, every year it's either number one or number
two in the in the most dangerous places for journalists
in the world. People don't realize that journalists get murdered
there routinely when you write about corruption. If you know

(25:45):
several of you know, one of our cartel chronicle writers
who unfortunately passed away in very strange circumstances, he was,
you know, living in the US. He had gotten citizenship
after he fled Mexico because he published the photo of
the cartel boss and they're going to kill him, and
he ended up you know, working for us and writing

(26:06):
about that. And then after time he started going back
into Mexico and he went to Tiapus and he was
writing about corruption in Chiapus and they're like, hey, sorry,
the friends you sit here to investigate us he drowned.
And it's like, well, he did drown I don't know
what the circumstances were leading up to that to that drowning, right,
we know that he did drowned, and you know, Jerry
around us and that was a horrifying situation. But that's

(26:28):
what journalists there live under. That's why they write with us,
and they write under pseudonyms so they can publish what
they want to publish without hopefully without getting murdered.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah, have mercy kind of brings it home every time
you see an American millionaire on television talking about how
brave they are for speaking out against Donald Trump. Touts
it anyway, Brendan.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
Yeah, it never ceases to amaze me when I hear
people say that. They're like, you have so much courage
getting on the stage at the Grammys and saying something
about Trump. You have got to be kidding me that
that you call that courage. You know who have courage
are the journalists in Mexico who are writing about this
stuff under pseudonyms, hoping that you know, like, it's one
thing for me to write about Cartel's I lived here,
I have I have more firearms than I have toes

(27:14):
and fingers and other extremities. Right, if you added all
my extremities together, I have more firearms and that they
do not like. It doesn't take much courage for me
to write about them, because I can defend my stuff
I called nine one one. But it takes a lot
of courage for them to live in that and just
hope that I don't accidentally reveal their name or you know,
that someone doesn't figure out it was them who sent

(27:36):
me a report or sent me a photo of something.
It takes a lot of courage. So these when people
in the US talk about that, it just kind of yeah,
it blows my mind to yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
No doubt about it. All right, Brandon, you have you
have one more in you or one more segment in you?

Speaker 3 (27:51):
Real quick?

Speaker 4 (27:51):
Absolutely, I haven't any segments. As you want. I want
to talk about you another epod.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
I want to talk about Trump and these plans and
the military and things like that before we get to
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Cheese at the Cartel Chronicles Breitbart. You gotta go read
all of his stuff that they do, Okay, Brandon. Donald

(29:22):
Trump is obviously coming into office. There's a lot of
talk about mass deportation, and there's already a lot of
talk about his relationship with Mexico's president. What can and
can't we expect from Mexico's president because clearly she's not
gonna want to crack down quite as much as Trump
is going to want to crack down.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Correct, So what we can expect is we can expect
two things. We can expect Mexico to use mass migration
at our southern border as a bargaining chit with the
US government, as they always do. We can also expect
Mexico to play the United States against China and China

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against the United States, because that's what they do. When
Mexico needed communications infrastructure, it wasn't the United States who
got that contract, it was Huawei, right, So a lot
of Mexico's infrastructure they're starting to turn toward China, which
then makes the US go no, no, no, okay, we'll
give you money a much more favorable rate. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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we'll do it because we don't want them to become
a satellite of China right on our border. So that's
what we can expect from them. We can expect that
when the US is doing what they want, Mexico will
crack down on migrants, and when the US is not
doing what they want, Mexico will allow them to flood
our southern border. That's what they'll do. So the change

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here is that Trump will generally speaking, I think home
and for sure, will make sure that people coming to
the border know that they will not be allowed in.
So we're going to either see one then build up
at the southern border ahead of the next election like
they did last time, or two they're just not going
to come anymore in large numbers, and so it's a

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little bit complicated, but Mexico is absolutely going to use
that bargaining chip because that's what they always do.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
Brandon, what do you think of Tom Holman? Christy Nolmes
had a DHS. What are your impressions with this crew
coming in? Are you impressed, hesitant? Where you at with them?

Speaker 4 (31:29):
With the border stuff home and absolutely impressed. Absolutely, you
know when I have an interesting history with that person.
When he was going to get nominated by Trump. Previously,
all we had and knew about him was what he
had said and what he was on video saying under
the Obama administration, where he was also an official, lower

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level official, and I was not happy with it, and
I wrote about it, and I used his own words
and things that he said and what his agenda was
in once he was in a seat a position to
do something and he was allowed to speak freely, he
did and he said, look, you know, I talked to him.
I did an interview with him on air, and I said,
I'm having a hard time reconciling what you've said years

(32:14):
ago on Camra and what you're saying now. And he said, well,
my job was in that position was to serve under
this president and to implement the will of that This
president asked me what I want to see and what
I think needs to be done, and here's what I
want and here's what I think needs to be done.
It's just that, you know, I was a good soldier,
and it's like, okay, I accept that. And it turns

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out he was, and so I think that he will
absolutely crack the heads of transnational criminal organizations. I think
he will make sure that as few pull factors exist
for people to come here illegally. I think he will
absolutely do exactly what he's saying he's going to do.
But I think he will, and so that pick is

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probably my favorite pick that Trump has done. Also very
happy about Sebastian Gorka. I know him. He is a
good man. I know people you know attack him all
the time and what have you, but it's not popular
popular and like sep, but he is a good man
and he will do a good job. So yeah, I'm
pretty happy with most of the picks. The mat Matt

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Gates think I wasn't bothered enough to say anything, but
I you know, I had some concerns about that, but
not enough that I was going to publicly. You know,
all about Brandon.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Why don't cartels hurt journalists here? Why don't they come
over here and hurt journalists? And as much as I
hate journalists, I'm not actually cheering for something like that.
I don't want anybody to be hurt. But but why
is that not something that happens here? I mean, we
can say, well, America would step in. Yeah, if Rachel
Maddow gets killed by Sineloa, we're going to step in.

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But if they took out some local newspaper man and
McAllen Texas, the federal government would not step in. Right.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Well, first off, okay, So one of the arguments against
bripe Art and against you know, what we do in
Mexico is that we are reinforcing a white nationalist agenda
because we are making Mexico look scary. And so what
you have is a lot of US journalists, the majority

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of US journalists. The reason they don't write about it
is they're afraid it's going to reinforce a right of
center political narrative, or they're afraid that it's going to
make that they're that they're somehow being racist by pointing
out that there's so much violence in these communities south
of our border. Right, So they don't write about it.
But now the consequence of that is that they're at

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they're participating in silencing these communities and making sure they
don't have a voice. Right, there's communities of color who
don't have a voice, and they're not bringing them a
voice because they're afraid of looking racist? So why don't
cartels do something? The US journalists? Well, what you what
US journalists are doing anything to challenge the cartel except

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for US? I mean there's none except for US. And
you know, Fox has a good guy Bill and there's
a few guys who are really calling out what's happening
on the border. But who else is really challenging the cartels?
What other US outlet I mean being serious other than myself,
you know, Defonso or Tis. What other US outlet is
like actually challenging and exposing their money, where they hide

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their money, what they look like, what their real names are,
who their lieutenants are, what their phone numbers are? Uh,
they're you know, who's really exposing them besides us? I mean, really,
who's doing it? No one? And and they don't probably
don't kill me because if you google me, is you
know my history with the you know FBI, my my

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connections to the White House and to abandon it looks
like to them it looks like I'm some highly connected
you know FBI White House connected to them. It probably
looks pretty scary and they probably don't want to mess
with that, is what I assume. They probably also know
that if they showed up there, there's lead going back

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at them. They're not accustomed to that, right, They're generally
accustomed to to just dominating and being bullies. And so
historically when they have come after us and they have
done things to us, we've made such a big stink
about it that both the US government in Mexico ramped
it up against the individuals who came after us. When

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one of them, in Mitchell Khan, put a one hundred
thousand dollars hit on one of my rids, you know,
was within forty eight hours, he had his door kicked
in and and you know, was incarcerated and stirred up
so much trouble for them that they just leave us alone.
Do I think that other US journalists would get the
same treatment that we get, Probably not unless they were

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as aggressive as we are. Right, But historically, when they
come after us, we go after them. We write about
them so much, we put resources into it, and then
the US government gets involved in the Mexican government gets embarrassed,
so they go after those guys. And these people know
that if they come after us, that's we're going to
double down. And it's ultimately just like with Commandante Toro

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going to result in their incarceration or their deaths.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
You keep after my friend Brandon Darby. Everybody, thank you,
my brother.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
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