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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Jesse Kelly Show. Another hour of The Jesse Kelly
Show on a wonderful Tuesday, And we have a bunch
of stuff we're gonna get into this hour. Gavin Newsome,
keep your eyes on Gavin Newsome. Yes, we're gonna tackle
some Gavin Newsome stuff. Debbie, Debbie Wasserman Schultz said something
absolutely hilarious. We'll get to emails, We'll get to something

(00:22):
the Supreme Court did, maybe some bad stuff in Ukraine.
All that and more coming up on the world famous
Jesse Kelly Show this hour. But well, I guess maybe
you don't know what time it is since it's Tuesday.
Every Monday started the second hour. We do Medal of
Honor Monday. I was gone yesterday, so we thought we

(00:43):
can't be skipping out on that. We should do Medal
of Honor Tuesday. And as always, you can email the
show love, hate, death threats, ask Doctor Jesse questions or
if there's a Medal of Honor citation you like, you're
welcome to email that in This guy said dog Staff
Sergeant Marsario Garcia was a Sugarland native and his family

(01:06):
are friends. That's cool. His citation is awesome. If you
could do it since you don't speak Mexican, right, And
actually it's funny you brought that up. This gentleman Garcia.
He was born in Mexico, one of the very rare
cases born in Mexico. His folks were farmers. I think
he had like ten siblings. Huge family. Moved to America,

(01:29):
worked on a ranch around Texas, got drafted into the army.
Now I'll get to his citation in just a moment.
But this fighting, this was a World War two thing.
This was in Germany, grosshow Germany, but more specifically an
area known as the Hurtgen Forest. Hurtgen Forest. Okay, most

(01:55):
people don't know about this stuff because the war is
so big. It all kind of blends together in one big,
ugly mess for us. I don't know it does for
me anyway. What's going on here, Well, it makes the
metal of honor citation that much more impressive if you
actually learn about what's happening around it. Oftentimes that's the case.
So here was the deal. We were obviously pressing in

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Dessert Germany. We wanted to seize river crossings across the Rhine.
But that's one of those things that's very consistent in
every military campaign in history. Crossing a river is difficult,
it is dangerous. There are only so many places you
can do it, even if you blow the bridge. The

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bridge was normally built in a specific place where it
was the best place to cross it. It's hard to
move men and equipment across the river. It is not easy,
it is not fast, and every side knows this. Every
side knows the river crossings are important. The side that's
retreating knows it. The side that's attacking knows it. Germany
knew it. We knew it. We had to get the
river crossings across the Rhine, which brings us to this. Honestly,

(03:03):
it's probably a really beautiful place, but for combat purposes,
this living hell known as the Hurtgen Forest. It is
not only hilly, extremely hilly. It's thick the woods are
supposed to be. I've never been there, but from everything
I read, it's unbelievably thick, almost like a triple canopy jungle.

(03:28):
It makes it so dark. The reason that matters for
our purposes here is we threw a bunch of troops
into there to get the Germans out of there so
we could seize these river crossings. But this is a
brutal environment to assault anything in. One of the main
reasons is we couldn't use our air power that well,

(03:52):
we couldn't hardly use it at all when the woods
are that thick. Remember, by this point in the war,
we had an air advantage over the Germans. We own
the skies by now that gets completely wiped out in
a forest this thick that planes can't see, there's nothing
to bomb, there's nothing to even reconn in. Our armor
advantage completely nullified. You can't be running tanks in woods

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this thick. So what it mad. What it did was
it took some critical advantages we had gotten and removed
our advantages. And it's like it would be it would
be like taking Muhammad Ali's jab away in a fight.
That's what it was. We really evened out as far
as strength goes. And so I'm going to read you something.

(04:38):
This is I'm gonna make sure I give them credit
the Army historical Foundation, but I'm gonna read that. Just
gonna read this for you. You want to know what
the fighting was like, and this is man versus man,
intense in your face. As one of the infantry regiments
of the fourth Division, the twenty second Infantry that's Garcia's

(04:58):
spent eighteen days in November in early December nineteen forty
four in the Hurtkin Forest, in a battle many believed
mattered little in the big picture. The twenty second suffered
two thousand, seven hundred and seventy three casualties, or eighty
five percent of its normal complement of thirty two hundred

(05:20):
and fifty seven troops. Let me just again make that simple.
Thirty two hundred troops is about what they normally have.
Twenty seven hundred casualties. Each rifle company went into action,
averaging one hundred and sixty two soldiers. Seven days later,
the rifle companies averaged eighty seven. We went into a deep,

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dark German forest, without air power, without armor, and we
met those dagon Germans, and the Germans were good. They
knew we were common. They were dug in on the defensive.
And you're not only hacking your way through the woods.
Remember you're going down into ravines and then uphills on

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the other side. And that's what brings us to what
mister Garcia did. United States Army Staff Sergeant again born
January second, nineteen twenty in Mexico. How about that Hey
honoring those who went above and beyond it's medal of
Honor Monday. While while an acting squad leader of Company

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B twenty second Infantry, on the twenty seventh of November
nineteen forty four, near Grosshow, Germany, he single handedly assaulted
two enemy machine gun emplacements. Attacking prepared positions on a
wooded hill which could be approached only through meager cover.
His company was pinned down by intense machine gun fire

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and subjected to a concentrated artillery in mortar barrage. Although
painfully wounded, he refused to be evacuated and, on his
own initiative, crawled forward alone until he reached a position
near an enemy emplacement hurling grenades. He boldly assaulted the position,

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destroyed the gun, and with his rifle killed three of
the enemy who attempted to escape. When he rejoined his company,
a second machine gun opened fire, and again the intrepid
soldier went forward, utterly, disregarding his own safety, he stormed
the position and destroyed the gun, killed three more Germans,
and captured four prisoners. By the way, he was wounded

(07:38):
in the shoulder and foot. In case you're wondering what
the painful injuries were. He fought on with his unit
until the objective was taken, and only then did he
permit himself to be removed for medical care. Staff Sergeant
then Private Garcia's conspicuous heroism, his inspiring courageous conduct, in
his complete disregard for his personal safety, wiped out two

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enemy implacements and enabled his company to advance and secure
its objective. How about that of Sugarland, Texas? How about that?
So that is a little story around that. And these
German forests, they really are very similar to what you

(08:22):
and I discussed many times, the jungles that the Pacific
World War two veterans had to fight in, very very
similar You know how we would discuss You remember this
discussion where these Japanese implacements, It was just so terrible.
Our guys would be out on patrol and you would
all of a sudden just be gunned down, practically standing

(08:43):
on top of the machine gun emplacement. How is that possible?
Not only is the jungle super thick, but you could
put an emplacement down and then just chuck a bunch
of dirt on top of it, and just the natural
environment would grow greenery there in a matter of let
alone weeks, and so the jungle would essentially grow around

(09:05):
your emplacement, which is the best concealment in the world.
There's no way you could see. You can't see anything,
and so death would just come from everywhere nowhere. You
can't tell. These German forests are not dissimilar. Except there's
one part of this battle that I did not mention.
This is November in Germany. It was freezing, The temperature

(09:26):
was freezing. The men were wet cold when they were
wounded or dying because we remember, we couldn't get vehicles
in there because it was so thick. They had to
haul people out by hand. And so I mean, what
they don't what they don't tell you is people are
dying because it takes so long to get them back
to aid stations. You and your buddies. You have to

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grab your other buddy on a stretcher because he got wounded.
He bleeds out before you can get him all the
way back. Just a horrible, horrible situation. And like all situations,
some men rise. The staff Sergeant go Garcia rose to
the occasion and we don't have to play taps because
the man lived. How about that big way it is

(10:07):
the Jesse Kelly show on a Wonderful Tuesday tackling all
the issues of the day. We just did Medal of
Honor Tuesday. Talked a lot about injustice in the first hour.
This one made me stick or something fierce. Though, I
have to get to this before we get to Scotus
and more emails and things like that. So Debbie Wasserman
Schultz was complaining about Alligator Alcatraz that it's a deportation

(10:31):
facility in Florida, that's all, but nobody's being howlsed there permanently.
If you're an illegal, you're about to be deported. They're
gonna hold you there till they deport you. And this
is what she dropped. I'm what.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
So they essentially drink, they get their drinking water, and
they brush their teeth where they poop in the same unit.
They bragged that they went above standards supposedly and gave
them a three foot privacy wall that stretches the length
inside the thirty two detain the cage.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
They brush their feet, their teeth where they poop. You mean,
like everyone else in the United States of America that
has a bathroom, does there be Wasserman Schultz have an outhouse,
you know. That could be the only explanation for that.
I can't believe they brush their teeth where they poop.

(11:29):
It's a bathroom. I believe my toilet is located approximately
three feet away from the sink where I brush my teeth.
It's called a bathroom. We all have one. That's one. Two.
I'm gonna confess something to you, and then I'm gonna
move on and I'm never gonna mention it again because

(11:51):
I want to go do some emails and other stuff.
I have rarely I have brushed my teeth on the
toilet before. Listen, Chris, I'm not going to be judged
right away before I can even lob an explanation out there.

(12:11):
In situations where I am crunched for time, maybe don't
look at me like that. I have occasionally. We're talking
three times in my life, just having a confession. No,
I understand it's gross. That's why I'm confessing it right now.
Christ Whatever, I've done it, and I'm not proud of it,

(12:33):
and Lord Willing, I will never do it again. But
I have done it. Okay. Now let me ask you,
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there so you don't have to work with people who

(12:53):
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(13:14):
will match you with good candidates. You don't have to
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who question your teeth brushing on the toilet. Go to

(13:36):
ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse and try it for free.
ZipRecruiter dot com slash jesse. Hey, colossal clown hands, how
do you screen your emails? You read on the show?
You and Jewish producer Chris are functionally illiterate, So who's
really running the show. There's not a ton of screening.

(13:56):
I read almost everything you email in. I've told you
this before. If you email I will probably read it.
The only thing that does get screened is if you
go on too long, you'll learn that whenever you have
a large group of people, there's always a couple of
psychos in there, and some people will email in two
or three pages of emails. I'm not reading that. I'm

(14:17):
not reading that well, Chris said. More. See I don't
see them. If you go on more really than a paragraph,
I'm probably not gonna see it. Chris knows I won't
read it, so he'll just delete it. If you complain
about advertisers, I don't like all the odds. Sorry, you
don't understand how radio works. I won't ever see it.
You immediately delete it. Beyond that, I get most of them.

(14:40):
I get most of them, and I enjoy them. I
really do ones just like this one to your beaver trapper.
Oh I almost forgot to mention I got a beaver,
Yes I did, Chris. In fact, I think I got two.
I need to stress, No, I got one. I think

(15:02):
I got two. You remember the story last week. A
couple of you fruitis got mad about it. But the
beavers are tearing down all these amazing trees, and we
can't seem to trap them. We can't seem to get
rid of them. And I told you that I located them.
Oh yeah, capped one on Friday or no, Saturday, captain
one on Saturday, and I made a solid effort to

(15:25):
try to get it out of the water so I
could be wearing a beaver hat as you're hearing me
right now. On Tuesday, I was unsuccessful in getting it
out of the water, and so the other animals ended
up taking it first. They stole my beaver pelt. Don't
think that I'm above getting a fake one. In fact,

(15:46):
I believe I'm going to order it pretty shortly. What
Chris What Chris said? Picks or it didn't happen, Although
it'll be picks, buddy. I'm not saying they're real. Do
you think I'm above lying. I'm not saying they're real.
But this did happen, and it was maybe the worst
moment ever for my mom because my mom was making
merciless fun of me after she listened to the radio

(16:09):
segment I did last week on beaver hunting, and she said,
you didn't even kill one. You haven't done anything. All
you did was see it. Blah blah blah blah blah.
When I finally got one. I came walking in her
house with my hand raised in the number one sign,
my index finger raised in the air, and she she
just put her head in her hands because she knew
what had happened. And I have made her call me

(16:32):
beaver Hunter. Well, she hasn't actually done it, but I've
requested that she call me beaver Hunter all weekend long.
I have just I've been over the top of noxious
about the whole thing, and it has been fantastic. You
know what else is fantastic. Scotus lifted the block on
Trump's plan to dismantle the Education Department. No, I need
to make something hundred percent clear about this. The Supreme

(16:56):
Court did not say that Trump can eliminate the Department
of Education. That's not what they said. So don't let
bad headlines mislead you. Only Congress can really totally get
rid of the Department of Education, because it was Congress
that created the Department of Education under Jimmy Carter. That's

(17:17):
another story entirely. But Scotis did say you can fire
these people now, Donald Trump in Education Secretary Linda McMahon,
they are free to start firing people. Is this everything
we ever wanted no. But it's a big, big, big deal.

(17:40):
Celebrate this. This is a win. And there's another part
of this win. I talked to a lawyer today, which
was brutal, but I talked to a lawyer today. Hang on,
I'll be right back. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a wonderful, wonderful Tuesday. Member. If you would like
to email the show, you can Jesse at Jesse kellyshow

(18:01):
dot com and we will get to a bunch of
those emails shortly. But okay, so back to what the
Supreme Court did. Remember, the Supreme Court did not eliminate
the Department of Education. They didn't even say Trump could
eliminate the Department of Education because he can't. It was
created by Congress. He can only be eliminated by Congress.
But what the Supreme Court did do is they said, oh, no,

(18:21):
you can fire a bunch of people. Go ahead. I
know that's a crazy thing to celebrate, because how did
we ever end up in a place where you can't
fire government people? But that is the place we've been,
and now that that's changing, it's something to celebrate. And
you're starting to see this happen more and more across

(18:43):
government agencies, like this lady who got dumped by the
State Department on his disappointment.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
I'm a lawyer by trade and live for Supreme Court
decisions at least to have reasoning, so you know. To
have the six justices just allow this to happen without
even explaining their decision is extremely disappointing. Then I go
into anger, anger since the beginning of this administration by

(19:08):
the misrepresentation about what we actually do. And it is
extremely anger inducing that this misrepresentation of what we do
and how important our work is is perpetuating in.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
The sense of intitement with these freaking government employees. That
drives me insane. They all think that they're these saintly
civil servants when they're not. Most of you are a
bunch of lazy dorks who couldn't make it in the
private sector. You took the job because the benefits are great.
You get eight thousand paid vacation days a year. Please
don't sell me on the important work you do. Most

(19:45):
of you are committed communists who, when you're not on vacation,
use your turn time to try to undermine Republicans and
help republican and help democrats. We all know, that's exactly
what you do. Back to what we were talking about
about the Supreme Court decision. What this did do, according
to a lawyer friend of mine, was it potentially opened
up the possibility of firing of other government employees in mass,

(20:11):
meaning not just the Department of Education. I'm not saying
we're there yet, so don't get excited, but he told
me this could very well lead to the Supreme Court saying, look,
you want to fire a bunch of IRS agents, go ahead.
You want to fire a bunch of FBI agents, go ahead, CIA,
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. This has the potential.

(20:32):
I know it sounds like a small story. It has
the potential to shrink the government in a large, large way.
Of course it's not enough. We need to completely eliminate
these agencies. But that's really freaking cool in my mind.
That's a good, good, good start. Jesse. Actually, he said,
dear Beaver trapper, why are conservative podcasters having Gavin Newsom on? Okay?

(20:59):
So a lot of this is in response to Sean Ryan,
Sean Ryan, who I like a lot. Sean Ryan had
Gavin Newsom on his show. Gavin Newsome was asked some
questions by Sean Ryan, and he didn't necessarily give the
best answers.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
What about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:22):
I mean, look, he's talking about tranny stuff, tranny stuff.
Go get your eight year old tranny that kind of thing.

Speaker 4 (21:28):
What about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:33):
I mean, look, I.

Speaker 5 (21:35):
Now that I have a nine year old just became nine.
Come on, man, I get it. So those are legit,
you know. It's it's interesting just the issue of age.
I haven't. I'm as I and there's someone that's been
so focused on equality broadly LGBT rights, particular gay marriage.

(22:01):
The trans issue for me is also novel. It's over
the last few years. I'm trying to understand as much
as anyone else, whole pronoun thing, trying to understand all
of that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Okay, let me explain something. And it may seem like
an obvious point, but Gavin Newsom's running for president. As
you know, he's going to run to be the Democrat
nominee in twenty twenty eight, and it'll be the least
surprising announcement in the world. Gavin Newsom's running to be president.
And there is something that you and I always have

(22:36):
to remember we are not normal voters. We are not
even the majority of voters. I'm sorry. I'm not talking
about people who vote on the right or Republican or
something like that. I'm talking about our level of knowledge
about the issues. Our level of knowledge about this scandal

(22:57):
or that issue, or the border or tax or the
tranny stuff or whatever. If someone were to ask you
about that, you would be able to explain exactly what's
going on, why it's going on, about a variety of issues.
Most voters are not this way. Gavin Newsom goes on

(23:18):
every podcast he can find, including right wing podcasts, because
Gavin Newsom understands he needs to speak to the voter
who goes whichever way the wind happens to be blowing.
You probably know someone like this, Maybe you are someone
like this. I'm talking about the person why I voted

(23:39):
for Obama twice and then I voted for Trump the
first time, and then I voted for Biden. But then
I went back and I voted for Trump, and now
I'm unhappy with Trump. And I know when you hear
about people like that, it just makes you want to
run through a brick wall because you're you're thinking, how
co what does that mean? What do you even vote on?
Don't sit and bash your self over the head trying

(24:01):
to understand that's how a lot of people vote. Just
know that's how a lot of people vote. And here's
the other part that's maybe the most mannening part about this.
Those are the people who decide elections, the undecideds. They
go whichever way the wind blow. They decide who's the
next president. And that nuts, it's freaking awful. But you
don't get to decide. I don't get to decide. We

(24:22):
can work, we can help pull them our direction, but
we don't decide elections. Gavin Newsom is running for president.
And Gavin Newsom is doing something very intelligent. He is
going on right wing shows and he's answering questions and
this answer he gives you, I'm gonna play it again

(24:42):
here in its entirety. It's not designed to win you over.
Gavin Newsom is not trying to win you over. You
are too informed. He can't win you over. Gavin Newsom
is trying to speak to somebody. Sean Ryan has a
huge show. He's trying to speak to the guy in

(25:04):
the audience who sometimes votes left and sometimes votes right,
and I'm not sure, but now I'm mad at them.
He's trying to answer the question while sounding reasonable to
that guy, also signaling to the demonic Democrat base that
he won't stop them from mutilating children. He's trying to
walk the tightrope. He's trying to tell the demons, yes,

(25:28):
you can keep mutilating kids, while also trying to tell
Norman norm that he's not that much of a psycho.
That's what you're hearing with this gobblygook answer.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
What about for your values? I mean, is eight years
old too young?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (25:41):
I mean, look now that I have a nine year
old just became nine. Come on, man, I get it.
So those are legit. You know, it's interesting just the
issue of age. I haven't I'm as I is someone
that's been so focused on equality broadly LGBT writes, particularly

(26:08):
gay marriage. The trans issue for me is also novel.
It's over the last few years. I'm trying to understand
as much as anyone.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Else, the whole pronoun thing.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Try and understand all of that.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
What did he say? There? Nothing, absolutely nothing but norm
and norma. They might hear that answer and say Okay,
he's not a complete psycho like other people. I mean,
he's not Jasmine Crockett.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
Sextus has always been found to be intentionally discriminatory. And
so I want y'all to understand the makeup of my state.
The state is a majority minority state, and what this
legislature historically has done is what they plan to do again,
is to dilute the voices of people of color in
order to to make sure that they can get to

(27:02):
where they're trying to go.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
We saw this.

Speaker 6 (27:04):
Department of Justice decided to put out a letter and
what did they do. We only have four seats that
are represented by black folk, where the vast majority of
the people they get to decide who they have represented
them are black. They decided to attack three of the
four seats that we have in the state. They decided
to go after a lot.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
He doesn't sound like that. Maybe Norm thinks, Okay, that's
a Democrat I could vote for. That's what he's going for.
As for why these people have them on, I don't
want to speak for them, but I'll give you my
answer in a moment. It is the Jesse Kelly Show
on a wonderful, wonderful wonderful Tuesday. Remember you can email

(27:49):
us Jesse at jesse kellyshow dot com before I get
back to some more emails, and we'll talk about well
being replaced, being replaced intentionally byners and why and all
that stuff before we get to that in Ukraine and
other things. I wanted to answer the guy's questions. I
didn't want to avoid it. Why are people having Gavin

(28:11):
Newsom on their podcast, on their television show. He's a Democrat,
he's a scumbag. Why have him on? Why have him on?
I don't do that, And let me explain why I
don't have a lot of politicians on. You know, I
don't have a lot of guests on period, because I
just prefer my own self. I prefer my own thoughts.
I prefer to just do the whole thing myself. Part

(28:33):
of that is a control freak thing. If I have
on a guest and they suck, you suffer, I probably
only have you for fifteen minutes. You're in your car,
you're on the way, maybe you're stuck in traffic. I
have fifteen minutes to try to make your day a
little bit better, make it interesting, make it laugh. If
I have a guest on. That sucks, it ruins it.

(28:54):
So that's part of why I don't have any guests.
But a big reason why I don't have many politics
is politicians, most of them, for really all of them.
Because they're men. They will disappoint you. They'll disappoint me eventually,
they will, And that's okay, that's okay. I don't if

(29:14):
I wanted them to be just like me, I would
just go run again from myself. Right. They're different, they
see things differently. But sometimes sometimes they will turn out
to be treasonous little snakes. And maybe they weren't that
way earlier, or maybe they were lying earlier. And if
I had that person on, I will feel partially responsible

(29:37):
because I promoted them. Ken Buck. Ken Buck was a
former congressman from Colorado. I have played the audio of
ken Buck multiple times sucking up to the FBI while
the STAZI was abusing American citizens their rights, arresting pro lifers,
and I played the audio of ken Buck, Oh.

Speaker 7 (29:57):
I love you, the FBI is the best, and defund anything.
You guys are perfect, you protect us. And I even
made the accusation completely without evidence. I should note that, Oh,
go ahead and play it. Chris this, ken Buck, I want.

Speaker 8 (30:10):
To thank you for leading an agency, as you mentioned
in your opening statement, that protects Americans from foreign terrace.
That an agency that protects Americas from fries from China
and Russia and cyber crime and public corruption and organized
crime and drug cartels and human traffickers and white collar criminals.
And I want to thank you and the FBI for

(30:32):
protecting law abiding Americans from the evil that exists all
around us. And frankly, I am not in favor of
defunding the FBI. Nor am I in favor of splitting
up the FBI. Nor am I in favor of using
the home and rule for the FBI director.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
That was while the FBI was in the middle of
some of the worst civil rights abuses by a government
agency in the history of this country. You know, I
interviewed ken Buck before, and not in a hostile way.
I think it was on TV, not radio, and it
was years ago, but he was, you know, he had

(31:10):
a fairly conservative voting record, and we brought him on.
I promoted that. Man. I hate that, I really really
really hate that, because I don't want to promote somebody
who is bad. Now. I have no idea why he

(31:32):
made those statements again, I accused him without evidence of
being compromised in some way, and I still believe that
it was so bizarrely over the top that it almost
seemed out of place. And then he retired promptly. He
basically sucked up the Christopher Ray for a minute and
then retired. It seemed bad, It looked bad. But whatever.

(31:54):
My philosophy is that I have been given this huge platform.
It's a blessing, a blessing I don't deserve, and I try.
Obviously I fail. Sometimes I try to not promote anything
or get elevate a voice that shouldn't be elevated. But

(32:15):
that is just my philosophy. There are other people who
would say, why Jesse bring on? Who do I hate
the most? Chris? What politician do I hate the most?
Who do I? I mean? I hate all of them?
Really for the most? Corny? Okay, that's a good example.
Is any Chris said John Cornyn. I've had people email

(32:36):
in and say, yes, you hate John Cornyan. I get that.
Why not bring him on and ask him hard questions?
Why not bring him on and ask him about the
gun control thing? Why? Why not? Why not? And I'll
be honest with you. I don't bring him on because
I don't want to promote him, and I don't ask
them hard questions because they'll just lie. They'll give me

(32:58):
talking points, like every politician does. But the question is
still a very valid one. And a lot of really
decent people have that philosophy of no, bring them on,
kind of one of those sunlight is the best disinfecting things.
Bring them on, sit them in the chair, ask them
hard questions. It's just a different philosophy. That's why different

(33:23):
people bring them on. It's just a different philosophy. I
do not, I will not. I don't like interviews. I
really hate interviewing politicians and I really really really hate
interviewing communists. So that's not something I'm going to do
on my show. But I get why others do. I
get why others do. All right, let's discuss Ukraine Russia.

(33:47):
It's gonna hurt a little bit, but let's discuss Ukraine
at Russia.
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