July 3, 2025 • 36 mins
Mike Rowe from "MikeroweWORKS Foundation" explains the impact of skilled trade schools
Trade Schools vs. Colleges
House Republicans pass Trump's Mega bill, sending the package to his desk to be signed
Creating A Government That Will Last
Trade Schools vs. Colleges
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Creating A Government That Will Last
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's the perfect into your day Jesse Kelly on seven ten.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Woo but Jesse Kelly Show, let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
On a Thursday. Ah, my goodness, I am so unbelievably excited.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And do you know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Why I'm excited?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, freedom is not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Free because Independence Day is tomorrow, and I am just like, Look,
you're gonna have to get used to this. I'm gonna
be obnoxious all night long. I can't help it. I
love Independence Day. I love my country. It's asked doctor
Jesse Thursday. Life is freaking good. The questions are amazing.
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Everything from food to July fourth, to the big beautiful
build Congress to everything else under the sun will be
discussed over the next three hours. And before I forget
a half hour from now, the great Mike Rowe. You
know Mike row Micro. Of course, everybody knows who Mike
Rowe is. Mike Rowe, the guy who's been teaching us
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about the greatness of the trades and all that stuff
for so long. He knows I'm hot on that too,
and he will be joining the show a half hour
from now to talk about you and me and jobs
and the economy, and yes, Chris, we will discuss what's
on the grill for Independence Day. I love it, Okay,
(01:35):
I got to give you a heads up about something.
I don't want to talk about the bill. I don't uh.
Maybe you're just now joining us. Maybe you're just now
getting in a car. I've been paying attention to the news.
This was Mike Johnson earlier today.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This vote, the yaser to eighteen, the nayser two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
The motion is adopted. You got it. The bill passed.
Maybe you love it, maybe you hate it. There you go,
there's your breaking news of the day. I don't care
to talk about it anymore. Sorry, I'm not interested whatsoever.
It's gigantic, way too big, spends way too much. There
are some wonderful things in it, some absolutely disgusting, criminal,
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embarrassing things in it. That's how life goes. Congress is evil, corrupt,
and horrible. I'm not going to be dragged down on
this day. The bill passed, Trump signed it to YadA, YadA, YadA.
There you go. There's your breaking news. Jessey, do you
think there's any chance of an attack on America on
the fourth, or more importantly, next year on the two
hundred and fiftieth birthday celebration. Okay, there's a reason I
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wanted to open up with this question. Maybe maybe there is.
Maybe maybe Iran's gonna go set off a bomb somewhere.
Maybe another one of these training terrorists is gonna go
murder a bunch of people. Maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe
I don't know, I don't know. There could be an
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attack going on right now. I don't know. But let
me tell you something. There's nothing, nothing in this world
that would keep me from celebrating Independence Day. Do you
know what I'm doing on Independence Day. There's this town
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close to us, well, I say close about an hour away.
They have the most ridiculous, over the top, red, white,
and Blue God and Country Independence Day parade that morning. Now,
I hate parades. Hate parades. I think they're the most boring,
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lame thing in the world. Not this one. They'll have
guns laid out on the table you can just buy.
They'll have they do American Revolution reenactments with squirt guns
where they're where the British are shooting squirt guns that
the kids and the kids are throwing water balloons back.
It is the most over the top thing in the world.
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And I'm going I don't care what the threats are.
I don't care what the danger is. I'm going and
then tomorrow night I have a vat of fireworks that
is probably equal or perhaps exceeding the fireworks that will
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be set off in many towns across the United States
of America. No, it's not for the whole neighborhood. It's
just for me. I mean me, the kids, oh, my
fam a couple other family members, a couple of friends
coming over. And there's nothing that's gonna stop me from
setting it off. And do you know why, Because I
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am so insanely grateful to be an American and you
should too what we have here, because it's all we've
ever known. If you're an American listening to this, because
it's all we've ever known, we don't even I don't
fully appreciate how amazing it is to live in a
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country that had a revolution. We had a revolution against
the most powerful empire on the planet. You could make
the argument that the British Empire when we had our revolution,
was the most powerful revolution or most powerful empire in
human history. They had Australia, then India, America. The sun
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never sets on the British Empire. All that stuff was true,
this ridiculously powerful empire, and yet they started to do
what evil tyrannical governments do. They started to poke and
poke and poke. We're not gonna let you do this,
and we're not gonna let you do that, and we're
gonna tax this, and we're gonna abuse you with that,
and we're going to abuse.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You with this.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Almost like they were daring us to revolve, Almost like
they were daring us to have a revolution. But you
know all that, Here's what you maybe don't know. Revolutions
are awful almost every single time because whenever you remove
a government, even an evil one, Mao will make it.
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Mao maybe the most evil man who ever lived. Even
if you had a revolution in China when Mao was
busy killing fifty million of his own people, even if
that happened, you know who would usually almost every time,
you know who would take over the warlord who has
the most guns and most power and honestly is the
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most violent. That's who wins the wars most of the time.
You realize that the most violent gun happy person, weapon
happy person, who's able to kill more people than other people,
he takes over for the tyrant who just got kicked
out and then he does worse things than the other
tyrant did. Actually, that's a really good point, Chris. Haiti
is a great example. Haiti. Everyone knows about the transit
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transatlantic slave trade and all that, and I know America
and then America is the only one, but it was
South America the care It was a big business, it
was a global business. You'd be hard pressed to find
in that era a more despicable slavery condition than Haiti
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had at the time, because it was sugarcane and that's
so labor intensive and just the abuse. And so you're
looking at Haiti at the time and you're thinking to yourself, Wow,
they should cast that off, they should have a revolution,
they should revolt, and they did. Whoo, yes, let's get
rid of them. Yep, Haiti's the biggest dump on the
planet today. You could easily argue that Haiti is worse
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today than it was when they had slaves. They're eating
each other in the place. Revolutions don't work out, that's
not a thing that happens. Oh, Revolutions happen, and the
people are as bad or worse off every single time. Now,
let's talk about this the men who led our revolution.
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They were the top one percenters of their time. It
wasn't just you know, a peasant revolt where you or
me were unhappy with the taxes. I can't, I can't.
No no, no, no, no no. Our political leaders, our
business leaders. Patrick Henry, you know Patrick Henry. Everyone knows
at least the saying give me liberty or give me death.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Patrick Henry was the five time governor of Virginia. Our
top and elite. They led our revolution against the British crown.
And so you have these elite guys, politicians and wealthy people.
John Hancock, you know that huge signature on the declaration everybody,
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John Hancock. John Hancock was like a billionaire. I mean
not a billionaire, but compared to his time, pretty much
was a billionaire. Our elite read led a revolution against
the British crown. Now let me ask you something. If
Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump and Elon Musk and but
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all the elite, all the Rhonda Santus will make it
the political elite too, all the political and wealthy elite,
if they all banded together and they had a revolution today,
what kind of government would they give?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Us next.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you think do you think they would all have
the kind of government all agree to give us, the
kind of government that strip them of power. That doesn't happen.
They would come up with a kind of government that
gives them more power and more money, like happens in
every other revolution, but not here, not in the United
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States of America. We replaced a tyrant with freedom, and
that never happens. You, an American citizen, can turn off
the Jesse Kelly Show right now and go buy a
billboard in your town that says Donald Trump sucks. And
you know what will happen to you? Nothing, because you
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are free, a free American, and you are free because
we had the greatest revolution ever. I don't care what
may happen on the fourth of July, I will be
out there waving the red, white, and blue, celebrating the
unbelievable blessing that I am an American, and I hope
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you will join me. By the way, I had a
chance to have a discussion today with somebody. He is
a professor. He knows more about American history. He's forgotten
more about American history than I will ever know in
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my entire lifetime. His name's Wilfred McLay by the way,
Wilfred McLay. And you know what he told me. I
was asking him about how do you teach history? Because
he's a professor. How do you teach history? How do
you teach it? How do you present it? You know
what he said to me, just bless me. He said,
I feel like I have an obligat obligation as a
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history teacher to create good citizens.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Wow, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent
Thursday Independence Day eve in a rebel yell.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Indeed, because we rebelled. We rebelled against tyranny. We rebelled
against the evil English king, that piece of trash that
he was, and we said no more, no, we will
be free. We will cast off our tyrant, and we
will not replace him with another one. The people of
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this country will choose their government, they will govern themselves.
And that is why I will celebrate tomorrow. It's not
because we don't have problems and everything's fine, Abev abev
of the I will celebrate because my children live free,
and they live free because we fought against tyranny and
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replaced it with something freaking better. Like here's another one,
dear Top five napper, listening to your podcast tonight, hearing
a clip of Dome answer the questions on CBS reminds
me of how we dodge that bullet. It's the fourth
of July this week. We need to celebrate as much
as the Communists celebrate their BS holidays. We're doing good.
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Momentum is building, celebrate wins, and on the fifth, let's
keep up the fight. Semper five. Maybe we ought to
just dwell on that for a moment. Here we are
on Independence Day and I know nothing's perfect. I get that.
I know we have all kinds of problems FBI and spending.
(12:48):
I get all that. What's today like with President Kamala Harris?
What what tomorrow? What's today tomorrow like with President Joe Biden.
I'll tell you what. It's not like. It's not this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
So the Homeland Security Department, or at least brand new
data this week showing that in June there were a
record low number of both nationwide border encounters and illegal
immigrant apprehensions at the southern border. Here's the craziest part.
There were zero illegal immigrants released in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You compare that to the.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Highs under the Biden administration when we saw as many
as twelve thousand encounters per day.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Do you know what else isn't happening with President Kamala Harris?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
This?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is better than expected? Yeah, Sarah it is. They're
talking about the jobs report. By the way, this is
better than expected. Yeah, Sarah, it is.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Look, this jobs market is like the energizer bunny. Every
single time we expected to run out of steam, it
just keeps going and going. So these new numbers show
the US economy added one hundred and forty seven thousand
jobs in June. That was well ahead of the expectation
of about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well ahead of
some whispers that we heard on Wall Street of a
sub one hundred thousand number. This is indeed beating expectations.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We were also expecting a slowdown. We did not get that.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
This is basically in line with May, which was revised higher.
It's also good news the unemployment.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You want to feel good about that bill that was
passed today, I want to feel good about something else.
I'm not even saying I like it. Well, let's go
to a Democrat. Why should I like this bill? Who
came Jeffries all out of assault on the care mister
Speaker being provided by Planned Parenthood. The bill is an
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all out of sault on Planned Parenthood. Hey at Kim Jeffries,
should I like this bill and miss the speaker? We
want no part of it, which is why we're fighting
so hard to stop it. Sounds like my kind of thing.
Why is he fighting so hard to stop it? Or
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why was he fighting so hard to stop it? Probably
things like this.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A deportation machine that will be unleashed on steroids by
this one big, ugly bill.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yes, I'm so excited. It sounds wonderful. Anyway, steroids are underrated.
No stop, I don't want you what Chris, It's fine,
let me explain. I don't want you to ever do steroids. Okay,
So I want you to stay away from the rooids
because I don't want your hard to explode when you're
thirty five. But man, wasn't baseball speaking of America? Wasn't
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baseball sweet when everyone was all juiced up? As I've
gotten older, I'm getting back into baseball and I love
it now, don't get me wrong, But everyone complained. Everyone
complained that all the players had biceps the size of
my thighs. And that were jack and eighty bombs a year.
That's the most fun I've ever had watching baseball on
my entire life. That's fine, it's not my dad. He's
not my strength. Coach. Go ahead, jam that needle in
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your arm, buddy, and hit one out for all of us. Sorry, Chris,
I'm gonna clean that up. I told you I'm in
a good mood. And when I'm in a good mood,
sometimes the show can take a dark turn. All right,
it can take a dark turn because I'm a dark person, really,
especially now I've been out in the sun. Doctor tiny hands,
I have two questions for you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I never paid attention in school, so I'm still green
on the different branches and their powers. Who has more
power the House or the Senate? Or is it like
comparing apples to oranges? Also they both suck something awful.
What which group of people are the worse or worse
rhino wise? House members or Senate members? All right, let's
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talk about this first. Who has more power the House
or Senate? That is definitely like comparing apples to oranges.
You kind of nailed that one. Keep in mind, there's
what the Senate is now and there's what the Senate
was supposed to be, and because of something horrible called
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the Seventeenth Amendments, what the Senate is now is totally
totally different, totally totally different than what the founders had intended.
So let's discuss this because look, it's American Revolution time.
I mean, no, hold, stop, stop, don't have a revolution.
We're talking about Independence Day, and so the American Revolution,
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in our constitution and our form of government, it's going
to be on people's minds. Let's discuss what was the
intention of all of it and where that brought us now.
But you're gonna have to wait on that because we're
talking to Micro next. Mike Ro's going to talk about jobs, trades,
other things, and then I swear on my life will
geek out on constitution stuff and Senate and House and
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everything else. I bet Micro takes chuck. I bet he does, seriously,
anybody who works with his hands like Micro does and
encourages others to do the sames. You know what, he
has testosterone, a lot of it. And I bet, look,
he's perfectly aware that our water is full of estrogen.
Full of estrogen. You heard of Kim Jeffrey. You think
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we want no part of it. Okay, Chris, did you
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three thousand. We'll be back with Mike rom It is
the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Oh my goodness,
I'm so excited for fireworks in the parade with guns
in god in America. Gosh, I love Independence Day, and
I'm so excited to talk to Mike Rowe joining me now,
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somebody I've respected for a very long time and honored
to have him on the show. I love his content
and love how he encourages young men to perhaps forge
a different path in what society's telling him to go along.
CEO of Mike Roworks Foundation, do I have that right, Mike?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's close enough, man. Yeah, that's me, Mike.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Why shouldn't everybody go to college? I was always told
you got to go to college, you got to go
to college. Do you just want young men to be poor?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
First of all, thanks for the kind words. I stumbled
across something you put up on X the other day,
and I don't know if you saw it, but I
actually commented on it because it's the same thing I've
been screaming for seventeen years. But look, the short answer
is we're individuals. And you know, when you get into
politics and when you start hearing people paint with a
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very broad brush, you know, you start to get these platitudes,
and all of them are well intended, but none of
them really make any sense. And the idea that a
four year degree is the best path for the most
people is right up there with one of the most
hair brained ideas that's ever been put forth. You know,
you can walk it back to the day we took
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shop class out of high school, and ever since then,
to varying degrees, we've gotten it into our heads that
our kids are going to be screwed if they don't
borrow whatever it takes to get a four year degree.
And that has caused so many problems. I know you're
familiar with most of them, but just so your listeners know,
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in no particular order, we have seven point six million
open jobs available right now, most of them don't require
four year degree. We have one point seven trillion dollars
of student loans on the books that never going to
get paid back. We're lending money we don't have to
kids who can't pay it back, to training for jobs
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that don't exist anymore. And it really all spins out
of this misguided idea that everybody needs a four year degree.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
No, I just love that, and I've always loved that.
But granted I come from a construction family. It's what
I did, it's what my father did, it's what my
grandfather did. And I think there's a couple of things,
just in my opinion that people will get wrong about this. First,
they think that being sweatier, dirty somehow is bad. If
you don't work in the air conditioning, then you have
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a bad job. My dad made a ton of money,
got sweaty and dirty his entire life, and I think
they think it means you're going to not have as
much money. But I've worked with somebody who had one
hundred thousand dollars in college debt. He was making twelve
I think it was twelve dollars an hour. He's never
going to pay that off. Yet there's a plant a
mile from my house. After you're done with your education,
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you can start at a hundred fifty grand a year.
It's just not true that sweat's bad for you, and
it's not true you're going to be poor.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well, this is, you know, from your mouth to God's ears,
you know, I mean it was. It's funny. Twenty two
years ago I shot the pilot for Dirty Jobs and
tried to sell it, and it was a tough sell.
None of the networks wanted it, you know. Discovery finally
took it, but really just to shut me up. They
had other plans for me, and I just you know,
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did a couple episodes of this thing because for the
exact reason you're saying, Jesse, the network executives are not
much different than concerned parents, you know, they they want
to make the right call. And at the time, nobody
had ever really celebrated jobs that take place out of
sight and out of mind and that require you to
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deal with peces from every species and all sorts of
these other things. It just didn't seem like something people
would want to watch. But holy cow man, once that
went on the air, we got thousands, tens of thousands
of letters from viewers, not telling me how funny I
was or how much they loved the show. Necessarily it
was more about, hey, Mike, if you think that's dirty,
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way do you see what my dad does, my brother,
my cousin, my sister. Right, And so there was a
real enthusiasm for the country that a lot of people
have missed. That comes down to celebrating and honest day's
work and really paying tribute to people who show up early,
stay late, you know, go to work clean, come home dirty,
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and somehow keep polite society on the rails. So I
got very lucky with that show. It was ahead of
the curve, and so when I started Microworks on Labor
Day of two thousand and eight, it was really just
a love letter to a couple million open jobs we
had at the time that nobody seemed to want. Today,
it's something else, and I'm not really sure how to
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describe it, but I'll tell you. We've We've awarded thirteen
million dollars in work ethics scholarships. We've helped train twenty
five hundred men and women for a long list of
jobs that need to get done but simply don't have
the popular enthusiasm behind them. But most of them pay
well into the six figures. So that's kind of what
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I do with my life these days. I work with
big companies. I've worked with governors. Governor Abbott and I
are embarking on a big endeavor to help Texas lead
the charge to close the skills gap and reinvigorate the trades.
CEOs from companies from Sea to Shining Sea believe me,
they've got the memo. The shortage of skilled workers is
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real and it's about to become a problem that's going
to be headline news.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm afraid, Mike again, speaking with Mike Row, CEO of
Mike Row Works. Mike, can you I just I get
these emails all the time because this is something I'm
passionate about I talk about it all the time, and
so I'm telling you right now there a whole bunch
of share parents leaning into the radio when they hear
wait a minute, scholarships. Scholarships to what? Because I get
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questions of Jesse. Where do I even find a trade school?
Where do I go? How long is it? Could you
please explain that process to every parent of teenage boys
like I am, who's interested in this. I have a
sixteen year old. He's already told me that's where he's going.
I'm interested in this.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Sure? Sure, well. The first thing not to oversell it,
but you have to understand the totality of the problem
and what's caused it. Seven point six million open jobs
in manufacturing and skilled trades is a result of something right,
and it's really two things. First, it's just bad math.
We've got a demographic problem. For every five trades people
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who retire this year, too will replace them. And it's
been that way for twelve years, so the labor pool
gets smaller and smaller every year. We also are still
dealing with stigmas and stereotypes and myths and misperceptions and
just all kinds of bad information that have led people
to conclude that there's no real opportunity in these vocations.
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That's why we got where we got to answer your question,
there's many, many ways to get to find a trade
school in your area, or an apprenticeship program, or a
community college that might offer some kind of OTJ or
on the job training. It's as simple as going online. Honestly,
you can go to my website microworks dot org, and
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while you're there, there's always a big pile of free money.
I mean, we do this every nine months, and you know,
I mean it's we're modest by foundation standards, but still
twelve thirteen million dollars is left to mark. So my
advice to parents really is is to don't make the
mistake that got us here in the first place. I
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don't know what's best for your kid, but I do
know that they deserve an honest look at all of
the options that are out there. And you know, I
worry that when we put our thumb on the scale,
we just skew the whole conversation to the point. Your
point actually that these misperceptions are keeping kids from giving
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these trades an honest look. Last point. Sorry for the filibuster,
but it's important. Not a week goes by where I
don't get a call like the one I just got
from the Blue Forge Alliance. These guys represent fifteen thousand
companies who collectively build our submarines. They've got to deliver
three per year to the US Navy. I'm talking Virginia
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class in Columbia Class subs. Incredibly complicated and really really
important part of our national defense. These guys called me.
I swear to god, I'm not making it up. They said,
we're having a hell of a time finding tradespeople. Can
you help us? I said, maybe, how many do you need?
They said one hundred and forty thousand? One hundred forty thousand.
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They said, we've looked everywhere. Do you know where they are?
And I said, yeah, man, I do know where they are.
They're in the eighth grade. And that's what we're dealing
with now. Not a week goes I've heard from the
automotive industry eighty thousand openings in collision repair and technical jobs.
The energy industry, my god, don't even get me started.
Three hundred thousand openings at least welder's electricians. I just talked.
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Was at a conference, the Aspen Ideas Festival, whatever that is.
But I was there and I listened to the CEO
of Blackrock and Wells Fargo talk about the need for
half a million electricians. So these guys got the memo Jesse.
It's like it's out there and you can start to
see the ship turn around. But the bottom line is
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the opportunities are real. Scholarship money is available. The country
needs enthusiastic skilled workers way more than we need enthusiastic
paralegals and actuarial accountants. With all due respect to those vocations.
Is coming. AI is here. Those jobs are in peril.
Plumbers and electricians job security like I've never seen before.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He is Mike Rowe. I am a fan of Mike.
I don't heart they ever have guests on my show.
It's a very rare thing. You can come join me
anytime you want. This is what young men need. I
want to point this out microworks dot org, mikerowworks dot org. Parents,
I'm sure you're scrambling there right now. Go Mike. I
appreciate you very much. My brother come back soon.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Have a great uh and happy independence.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Day, you too, How about that? We'll be back. Is
the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Smile, put
a smile on your face. It's you can almost sniff
Independence Day from here, although honestly that might just be Chris.
I'm smelling it's Independence Day.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Eve.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kelly show
dot com. Now, as promised, let's discuss because somebody emailed
in and it may sound basic, A lot of it
may be basic, but people don't know the difference between
the House and the Senate, and you know which group
is worse for rhinos and whatnot. Well, first let's discuss this.
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The founders of the country. They were obviously obsessed with
ensuring people could be free and would remain free. And
it's easy to pick at the constitution today, Declaration as
the Independence Constitution, all those things, But keep in mind
what a daunting task it is not to create a
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government for the moment. To create a government that will last,
you have to create a government that it's not just
good for seventeen seventy six, is this kind of government?
Is it gonna be okay? In eighteen seventy six, In
nineteen seven twenty six. What are we dealing with here?
And one of their challenges was, how do we ensure
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smaller states don't get smashed by larger states? Because even
back then there were rich, powerful states like New York.
How do we ensure that smaller states and their desires
don't get trampled by the larger states and their desires,
while at the same time ensuring that the population is
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properly represented. And let's pause on this for a moment,
because maybe you're thinking, well, they were all unified back then.
I want you to know something A lot of people
actually don't know this religion, various forms of Christianity. They
were different state to state back then, and I don't
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mean small differences. There were Quakers and there were Presbyterians,
and there were multiple So one state would have, you know,
this is their belief system, and the other state would
have this belief system. They did not always get along.
In fact, they were at each other's throats a lot.
From the outside looking in, probably for someone like Chris,
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that kind of looks crazy. I don't get it. It's
the Bible, it's Jesus. Why aren't you getting along? And honestly,
I kind of think the same thing lots of times,
but just know that it did matter to them. So
there were big differences, religious differences, a central banking differences,
all kinds of differences back then. How do you set
up a government where the people are represented equally? So
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everybody will have a member of the House of Representatives.
He represents so many people, and the small states don't
get stomped by the big states. That that small states
not getting stomped by the big states. That's why they
gave us the Senate. That's why Montana it's the same
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number of senators as California. That's why Delaware gets the
same number of senators as New York. When it comes
to the Senate, large or small, the states have equality
with their representation. Now, let's discuss what we talked about
before about how it's so different now than it was then.
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Senators get elected how now by vote, by a statewide vote.
So if you want to get elected senator in Arizona,
all the citizens of Arizona will go decide, well, I
want this person to be my senator. That is not
absolutely not how it was supposed to be in this
country before the Seventeenth Amendment. The state legislators, they would
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pick a senator to go represent them in Washington. DC
created a completely different type of representation in the Senate.
But let's not talk about what it was. Let's talk
about what it is now. Because you asked, who are
the worse rhyows, what are the different things? Well, you
could probably argue, and Thomas Jefferson would argue this, that
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the House is more powerful, at least should be more powerful,
because the House has the power of the purse. It
is the House of Representatives that controls the budget, that
controls everything. That's how it's supposed to work. But the
Senate also has crucial roles to play, crucial roles to
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play different different than the power of the purse, but
crucial roles like judges. Those haven't been in the news
at all, right, judges, Yeah, the Senate has to give
the old thumbs up or down on all those judges
who were doing all those terrible things. By the way,
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if you want a little light reading that'll make your
head pop off with rage, go read how many Republican
senators voted for these communist judges who are screwing everything
up or skipped the vote entirely, and them skipping the
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vote is the reason these communist judges got approved. Anyway,
We're not having time for them. We're not doing that
today because that's just gonna make me angry. Now, you
ask which group of people are the worst rhino wise,
it's always the senators. I know there are bad members
of the House, but I've said this before, I'll say
it again. There is a tiny, relatively tiny cabal of
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ten to fifteen GOP senators. Ten to fifteen GOP senators.
They are the ones with their foot in the door,
holding the door open for Democrats to savage this country
like the animals. They are people like James Langford, Mike Rownds,
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Bill Cassidy, John Dune, Mitch McConnell, John Corny, I could
go down the list, Curtis, the Lindsay Landy, Graham, all
of them. They are the ones, you know, they'll give
you a little win here and a little win there,
and a little win here and right when we get
to that crucial moment where we can drop the hammer
on communism and stop it boot stop it right then
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and there, that's one of those step boh guys, I'm
lnsy Graham. We can't do that. I'd rather bomb. I'd
rather bomb every country on the planet than stop American communism.
The Senate is where the rhinoes are, and that's why
it's so beneficial that we are getting rid of them.
The Tom Tillis's John corn and I believe is going
to lose his primary. In fact, he probably will drop
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out ahead of time. Another thing to feel good about. Anyway,
Let's do another hour, Let's do all kinds of stuff.
What would the show be like if Chris left China
in the twenty twenty election.
It's the perfect into your day Jesse Kelly on seven ten.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Woo but Jesse Kelly Show, let's have some fun.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
On a Thursday. Ah, my goodness, I am so unbelievably excited.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
And do you know.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Why I'm excited?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
No, freedom is not.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Free because Independence Day is tomorrow, and I am just like, Look,
you're gonna have to get used to this. I'm gonna
be obnoxious all night long. I can't help it. I
love Independence Day. I love my country. It's asked doctor
Jesse Thursday. Life is freaking good. The questions are amazing.
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Everything from food to July fourth, to the big beautiful
build Congress to everything else under the sun will be
discussed over the next three hours. And before I forget
a half hour from now, the great Mike Rowe. You
know Mike row Micro. Of course, everybody knows who Mike
Rowe is. Mike Rowe, the guy who's been teaching us
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about the greatness of the trades and all that stuff
for so long. He knows I'm hot on that too,
and he will be joining the show a half hour
from now to talk about you and me and jobs
and the economy, and yes, Chris, we will discuss what's
on the grill for Independence Day. I love it, Okay,
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I got to give you a heads up about something.
I don't want to talk about the bill. I don't uh.
Maybe you're just now joining us. Maybe you're just now
getting in a car. I've been paying attention to the news.
This was Mike Johnson earlier today.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
This vote, the yaser to eighteen, the nayser two fourteen.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
The motion is adopted. You got it. The bill passed.
Maybe you love it, maybe you hate it. There you go,
there's your breaking news of the day. I don't care
to talk about it anymore. Sorry, I'm not interested whatsoever.
It's gigantic, way too big, spends way too much. There
are some wonderful things in it, some absolutely disgusting, criminal,
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embarrassing things in it. That's how life goes. Congress is evil, corrupt,
and horrible. I'm not going to be dragged down on
this day. The bill passed, Trump signed it to YadA, YadA, YadA.
There you go. There's your breaking news. Jessey, do you
think there's any chance of an attack on America on
the fourth, or more importantly, next year on the two
hundred and fiftieth birthday celebration. Okay, there's a reason I
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wanted to open up with this question. Maybe maybe there is.
Maybe maybe Iran's gonna go set off a bomb somewhere.
Maybe another one of these training terrorists is gonna go
murder a bunch of people. Maybe maybe, maybe maybe maybe
I don't know, I don't know. There could be an
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attack going on right now. I don't know. But let
me tell you something. There's nothing, nothing in this world
that would keep me from celebrating Independence Day. Do you
know what I'm doing on Independence Day. There's this town
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close to us, well, I say close about an hour away.
They have the most ridiculous, over the top, red, white,
and Blue God and Country Independence Day parade that morning. Now,
I hate parades. Hate parades. I think they're the most boring,
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lame thing in the world. Not this one. They'll have
guns laid out on the table you can just buy.
They'll have they do American Revolution reenactments with squirt guns
where they're where the British are shooting squirt guns that
the kids and the kids are throwing water balloons back.
It is the most over the top thing in the world.
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And I'm going I don't care what the threats are.
I don't care what the danger is. I'm going and
then tomorrow night I have a vat of fireworks that
is probably equal or perhaps exceeding the fireworks that will
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be set off in many towns across the United States
of America. No, it's not for the whole neighborhood. It's
just for me. I mean me, the kids, oh, my
fam a couple other family members, a couple of friends
coming over. And there's nothing that's gonna stop me from
setting it off. And do you know why, Because I
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am so insanely grateful to be an American and you
should too what we have here, because it's all we've
ever known. If you're an American listening to this, because
it's all we've ever known, we don't even I don't
fully appreciate how amazing it is to live in a
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country that had a revolution. We had a revolution against
the most powerful empire on the planet. You could make
the argument that the British Empire when we had our revolution,
was the most powerful revolution or most powerful empire in
human history. They had Australia, then India, America. The sun
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never sets on the British Empire. All that stuff was true,
this ridiculously powerful empire, and yet they started to do
what evil tyrannical governments do. They started to poke and
poke and poke. We're not gonna let you do this,
and we're not gonna let you do that, and we're
gonna tax this, and we're gonna abuse you with that,
and we're going to abuse.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
You with this.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Almost like they were daring us to revolve, Almost like
they were daring us to have a revolution. But you
know all that, Here's what you maybe don't know. Revolutions
are awful almost every single time because whenever you remove
a government, even an evil one, Mao will make it.
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Mao maybe the most evil man who ever lived. Even
if you had a revolution in China when Mao was
busy killing fifty million of his own people, even if
that happened, you know who would usually almost every time,
you know who would take over the warlord who has
the most guns and most power and honestly is the
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most violent. That's who wins the wars most of the time.
You realize that the most violent gun happy person, weapon
happy person, who's able to kill more people than other people,
he takes over for the tyrant who just got kicked
out and then he does worse things than the other
tyrant did. Actually, that's a really good point, Chris. Haiti
is a great example. Haiti. Everyone knows about the transit
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transatlantic slave trade and all that, and I know America
and then America is the only one, but it was
South America the care It was a big business, it
was a global business. You'd be hard pressed to find
in that era a more despicable slavery condition than Haiti
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had at the time, because it was sugarcane and that's
so labor intensive and just the abuse. And so you're
looking at Haiti at the time and you're thinking to yourself, Wow,
they should cast that off, they should have a revolution,
they should revolt, and they did. Whoo, yes, let's get
rid of them. Yep, Haiti's the biggest dump on the
planet today. You could easily argue that Haiti is worse
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today than it was when they had slaves. They're eating
each other in the place. Revolutions don't work out, that's
not a thing that happens. Oh, Revolutions happen, and the
people are as bad or worse off every single time. Now,
let's talk about this the men who led our revolution.
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They were the top one percenters of their time. It
wasn't just you know, a peasant revolt where you or
me were unhappy with the taxes. I can't, I can't.
No no, no, no, no no. Our political leaders, our
business leaders. Patrick Henry, you know Patrick Henry. Everyone knows
at least the saying give me liberty or give me death.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You know that.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Patrick Henry was the five time governor of Virginia. Our
top and elite. They led our revolution against the British crown.
And so you have these elite guys, politicians and wealthy people.
John Hancock, you know that huge signature on the declaration everybody,
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John Hancock. John Hancock was like a billionaire. I mean
not a billionaire, but compared to his time, pretty much
was a billionaire. Our elite read led a revolution against
the British crown. Now let me ask you something. If
Jeff Bezos and Donald Trump and Elon Musk and but
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all the elite, all the Rhonda Santus will make it
the political elite too, all the political and wealthy elite,
if they all banded together and they had a revolution today,
what kind of government would they give?
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Us next.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
Do you think do you think they would all have
the kind of government all agree to give us, the
kind of government that strip them of power. That doesn't happen.
They would come up with a kind of government that
gives them more power and more money, like happens in
every other revolution, but not here, not in the United
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States of America. We replaced a tyrant with freedom, and
that never happens. You, an American citizen, can turn off
the Jesse Kelly Show right now and go buy a
billboard in your town that says Donald Trump sucks. And
you know what will happen to you? Nothing, because you
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are free, a free American, and you are free because
we had the greatest revolution ever. I don't care what
may happen on the fourth of July, I will be
out there waving the red, white, and blue, celebrating the
unbelievable blessing that I am an American, and I hope
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you will join me. By the way, I had a
chance to have a discussion today with somebody. He is
a professor. He knows more about American history. He's forgotten
more about American history than I will ever know in
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my entire lifetime. His name's Wilfred McLay by the way,
Wilfred McLay. And you know what he told me. I
was asking him about how do you teach history? Because
he's a professor. How do you teach history? How do
you teach it? How do you present it? You know
what he said to me, just bless me. He said,
I feel like I have an obligat obligation as a
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history teacher to create good citizens.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
Wow, it is the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent
Thursday Independence Day eve in a rebel yell.
Speaker 3 (11:23):
Indeed, because we rebelled. We rebelled against tyranny. We rebelled
against the evil English king, that piece of trash that
he was, and we said no more, no, we will
be free. We will cast off our tyrant, and we
will not replace him with another one. The people of
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this country will choose their government, they will govern themselves.
And that is why I will celebrate tomorrow. It's not
because we don't have problems and everything's fine, Abev abev
of the I will celebrate because my children live free,
and they live free because we fought against tyranny and
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replaced it with something freaking better. Like here's another one,
dear Top five napper, listening to your podcast tonight, hearing
a clip of Dome answer the questions on CBS reminds
me of how we dodge that bullet. It's the fourth
of July this week. We need to celebrate as much
as the Communists celebrate their BS holidays. We're doing good.
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Momentum is building, celebrate wins, and on the fifth, let's
keep up the fight. Semper five. Maybe we ought to
just dwell on that for a moment. Here we are
on Independence Day and I know nothing's perfect. I get that.
I know we have all kinds of problems FBI and spending.
(12:48):
I get all that. What's today like with President Kamala Harris?
What what tomorrow? What's today tomorrow like with President Joe Biden.
I'll tell you what. It's not like. It's not this.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
So the Homeland Security Department, or at least brand new
data this week showing that in June there were a
record low number of both nationwide border encounters and illegal
immigrant apprehensions at the southern border. Here's the craziest part.
There were zero illegal immigrants released in the US.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
You compare that to the.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
Highs under the Biden administration when we saw as many
as twelve thousand encounters per day.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Do you know what else isn't happening with President Kamala Harris?
Speaker 4 (13:30):
This?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
This is better than expected? Yeah, Sarah it is. They're
talking about the jobs report. By the way, this is
better than expected. Yeah, Sarah, it is.
Speaker 6 (13:38):
Look, this jobs market is like the energizer bunny. Every
single time we expected to run out of steam, it
just keeps going and going. So these new numbers show
the US economy added one hundred and forty seven thousand
jobs in June. That was well ahead of the expectation
of about one hundred and eighteen thousand, well ahead of
some whispers that we heard on Wall Street of a
sub one hundred thousand number. This is indeed beating expectations.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
We were also expecting a slowdown. We did not get that.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
This is basically in line with May, which was revised higher.
It's also good news the unemployment.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You want to feel good about that bill that was
passed today, I want to feel good about something else.
I'm not even saying I like it. Well, let's go
to a Democrat. Why should I like this bill? Who
came Jeffries all out of assault on the care mister
Speaker being provided by Planned Parenthood. The bill is an
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all out of sault on Planned Parenthood. Hey at Kim Jeffries,
should I like this bill and miss the speaker? We
want no part of it, which is why we're fighting
so hard to stop it. Sounds like my kind of thing.
Why is he fighting so hard to stop it? Or
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why was he fighting so hard to stop it? Probably
things like this.
Speaker 6 (14:56):
A deportation machine that will be unleashed on steroids by
this one big, ugly bill.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yes, I'm so excited. It sounds wonderful. Anyway, steroids are underrated.
No stop, I don't want you what Chris, It's fine,
let me explain. I don't want you to ever do steroids. Okay,
So I want you to stay away from the rooids
because I don't want your hard to explode when you're
thirty five. But man, wasn't baseball speaking of America? Wasn't
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baseball sweet when everyone was all juiced up? As I've
gotten older, I'm getting back into baseball and I love
it now, don't get me wrong, But everyone complained. Everyone
complained that all the players had biceps the size of
my thighs. And that were jack and eighty bombs a year.
That's the most fun I've ever had watching baseball on
my entire life. That's fine, it's not my dad. He's
not my strength. Coach. Go ahead, jam that needle in
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your arm, buddy, and hit one out for all of us. Sorry, Chris,
I'm gonna clean that up. I told you I'm in
a good mood. And when I'm in a good mood,
sometimes the show can take a dark turn. All right,
it can take a dark turn because I'm a dark person, really,
especially now I've been out in the sun. Doctor tiny hands,
I have two questions for you.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I like you.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I never paid attention in school, so I'm still green
on the different branches and their powers. Who has more
power the House or the Senate? Or is it like
comparing apples to oranges? Also they both suck something awful.
What which group of people are the worse or worse
rhino wise? House members or Senate members? All right, let's
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talk about this first. Who has more power the House
or Senate? That is definitely like comparing apples to oranges.
You kind of nailed that one. Keep in mind, there's
what the Senate is now and there's what the Senate
was supposed to be, and because of something horrible called
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the Seventeenth Amendments, what the Senate is now is totally
totally different, totally totally different than what the founders had intended.
So let's discuss this because look, it's American Revolution time.
I mean, no, hold, stop, stop, don't have a revolution.
We're talking about Independence Day, and so the American Revolution,
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in our constitution and our form of government, it's going
to be on people's minds. Let's discuss what was the
intention of all of it and where that brought us now.
But you're gonna have to wait on that because we're
talking to Micro next. Mike Ro's going to talk about jobs, trades,
other things, and then I swear on my life will
geek out on constitution stuff and Senate and House and
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everything else. I bet Micro takes chuck. I bet he does, seriously,
anybody who works with his hands like Micro does and
encourages others to do the sames. You know what, he
has testosterone, a lot of it. And I bet, look,
he's perfectly aware that our water is full of estrogen.
Full of estrogen. You heard of Kim Jeffrey. You think
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this water isn't full of estrogen and miss the speaker,
we want no part of it. Okay, Chris, did you
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three thousand. We'll be back with Mike rom It is
the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Oh my goodness,
I'm so excited for fireworks in the parade with guns
in god in America. Gosh, I love Independence Day, and
I'm so excited to talk to Mike Rowe joining me now,
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somebody I've respected for a very long time and honored
to have him on the show. I love his content
and love how he encourages young men to perhaps forge
a different path in what society's telling him to go along.
CEO of Mike Roworks Foundation, do I have that right, Mike?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's close enough, man. Yeah, that's me, Mike.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Why shouldn't everybody go to college? I was always told
you got to go to college, you got to go
to college. Do you just want young men to be poor?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
First of all, thanks for the kind words. I stumbled
across something you put up on X the other day,
and I don't know if you saw it, but I
actually commented on it because it's the same thing I've
been screaming for seventeen years. But look, the short answer
is we're individuals. And you know, when you get into
politics and when you start hearing people paint with a
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very broad brush, you know, you start to get these platitudes,
and all of them are well intended, but none of
them really make any sense. And the idea that a
four year degree is the best path for the most
people is right up there with one of the most
hair brained ideas that's ever been put forth. You know,
you can walk it back to the day we took
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shop class out of high school, and ever since then,
to varying degrees, we've gotten it into our heads that
our kids are going to be screwed if they don't
borrow whatever it takes to get a four year degree.
And that has caused so many problems. I know you're
familiar with most of them, but just so your listeners know,
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in no particular order, we have seven point six million
open jobs available right now, most of them don't require
four year degree. We have one point seven trillion dollars
of student loans on the books that never going to
get paid back. We're lending money we don't have to
kids who can't pay it back, to training for jobs
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that don't exist anymore. And it really all spins out
of this misguided idea that everybody needs a four year degree.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
No, I just love that, and I've always loved that.
But granted I come from a construction family. It's what
I did, it's what my father did, it's what my
grandfather did. And I think there's a couple of things,
just in my opinion that people will get wrong about this. First,
they think that being sweatier, dirty somehow is bad. If
you don't work in the air conditioning, then you have
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a bad job. My dad made a ton of money,
got sweaty and dirty his entire life, and I think
they think it means you're going to not have as
much money. But I've worked with somebody who had one
hundred thousand dollars in college debt. He was making twelve
I think it was twelve dollars an hour. He's never
going to pay that off. Yet there's a plant a
mile from my house. After you're done with your education,
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you can start at a hundred fifty grand a year.
It's just not true that sweat's bad for you, and
it's not true you're going to be poor.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Well, this is, you know, from your mouth to God's ears,
you know, I mean it was. It's funny. Twenty two
years ago I shot the pilot for Dirty Jobs and
tried to sell it, and it was a tough sell.
None of the networks wanted it, you know. Discovery finally
took it, but really just to shut me up. They
had other plans for me, and I just you know,
(22:27):
did a couple episodes of this thing because for the
exact reason you're saying, Jesse, the network executives are not
much different than concerned parents, you know, they they want
to make the right call. And at the time, nobody
had ever really celebrated jobs that take place out of
sight and out of mind and that require you to
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deal with peces from every species and all sorts of
these other things. It just didn't seem like something people
would want to watch. But holy cow man, once that
went on the air, we got thousands, tens of thousands
of letters from viewers, not telling me how funny I
was or how much they loved the show. Necessarily it
was more about, hey, Mike, if you think that's dirty,
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way do you see what my dad does, my brother,
my cousin, my sister. Right, And so there was a
real enthusiasm for the country that a lot of people
have missed. That comes down to celebrating and honest day's
work and really paying tribute to people who show up early,
stay late, you know, go to work clean, come home dirty,
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and somehow keep polite society on the rails. So I
got very lucky with that show. It was ahead of
the curve, and so when I started Microworks on Labor
Day of two thousand and eight, it was really just
a love letter to a couple million open jobs we
had at the time that nobody seemed to want. Today,
it's something else, and I'm not really sure how to
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describe it, but I'll tell you. We've We've awarded thirteen
million dollars in work ethics scholarships. We've helped train twenty
five hundred men and women for a long list of
jobs that need to get done but simply don't have
the popular enthusiasm behind them. But most of them pay
well into the six figures. So that's kind of what
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I do with my life these days. I work with
big companies. I've worked with governors. Governor Abbott and I
are embarking on a big endeavor to help Texas lead
the charge to close the skills gap and reinvigorate the trades.
CEOs from companies from Sea to Shining Sea believe me,
they've got the memo. The shortage of skilled workers is
(24:41):
real and it's about to become a problem that's going
to be headline news.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
I'm afraid, Mike again, speaking with Mike Row, CEO of
Mike Row Works. Mike, can you I just I get
these emails all the time because this is something I'm
passionate about I talk about it all the time, and
so I'm telling you right now there a whole bunch
of share parents leaning into the radio when they hear
wait a minute, scholarships. Scholarships to what? Because I get
(25:07):
questions of Jesse. Where do I even find a trade school?
Where do I go? How long is it? Could you
please explain that process to every parent of teenage boys
like I am, who's interested in this. I have a
sixteen year old. He's already told me that's where he's going.
I'm interested in this.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
What do we do?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Sure? Sure, well. The first thing not to oversell it,
but you have to understand the totality of the problem
and what's caused it. Seven point six million open jobs
in manufacturing and skilled trades is a result of something right,
and it's really two things. First, it's just bad math.
We've got a demographic problem. For every five trades people
(25:45):
who retire this year, too will replace them. And it's
been that way for twelve years, so the labor pool
gets smaller and smaller every year. We also are still
dealing with stigmas and stereotypes and myths and misperceptions and
just all kinds of bad information that have led people
to conclude that there's no real opportunity in these vocations.
(26:09):
That's why we got where we got to answer your question,
there's many, many ways to get to find a trade
school in your area, or an apprenticeship program, or a
community college that might offer some kind of OTJ or
on the job training. It's as simple as going online. Honestly,
you can go to my website microworks dot org, and
(26:31):
while you're there, there's always a big pile of free money.
I mean, we do this every nine months, and you know,
I mean it's we're modest by foundation standards, but still
twelve thirteen million dollars is left to mark. So my
advice to parents really is is to don't make the
mistake that got us here in the first place. I
(26:52):
don't know what's best for your kid, but I do
know that they deserve an honest look at all of
the options that are out there. And you know, I
worry that when we put our thumb on the scale,
we just skew the whole conversation to the point. Your
point actually that these misperceptions are keeping kids from giving
(27:14):
these trades an honest look. Last point. Sorry for the filibuster,
but it's important. Not a week goes by where I
don't get a call like the one I just got
from the Blue Forge Alliance. These guys represent fifteen thousand
companies who collectively build our submarines. They've got to deliver
three per year to the US Navy. I'm talking Virginia
(27:36):
class in Columbia Class subs. Incredibly complicated and really really
important part of our national defense. These guys called me.
I swear to god, I'm not making it up. They said,
we're having a hell of a time finding tradespeople. Can
you help us? I said, maybe, how many do you need?
They said one hundred and forty thousand? One hundred forty thousand.
(27:59):
They said, we've looked everywhere. Do you know where they are?
And I said, yeah, man, I do know where they are.
They're in the eighth grade. And that's what we're dealing
with now. Not a week goes I've heard from the
automotive industry eighty thousand openings in collision repair and technical jobs.
The energy industry, my god, don't even get me started.
Three hundred thousand openings at least welder's electricians. I just talked.
(28:24):
Was at a conference, the Aspen Ideas Festival, whatever that is.
But I was there and I listened to the CEO
of Blackrock and Wells Fargo talk about the need for
half a million electricians. So these guys got the memo Jesse.
It's like it's out there and you can start to
see the ship turn around. But the bottom line is
(28:45):
the opportunities are real. Scholarship money is available. The country
needs enthusiastic skilled workers way more than we need enthusiastic
paralegals and actuarial accountants. With all due respect to those vocations.
Is coming. AI is here. Those jobs are in peril.
Plumbers and electricians job security like I've never seen before.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
He is Mike Rowe. I am a fan of Mike.
I don't heart they ever have guests on my show.
It's a very rare thing. You can come join me
anytime you want. This is what young men need. I
want to point this out microworks dot org, mikerowworks dot org. Parents,
I'm sure you're scrambling there right now. Go Mike. I
appreciate you very much. My brother come back soon.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
Appreciate you too.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Have a great uh and happy independence.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Day, you too, How about that? We'll be back. Is
the Jesse Kelly Show on a magnificent Thursday. Smile, put
a smile on your face. It's you can almost sniff
Independence Day from here, although honestly that might just be Chris.
I'm smelling it's Independence Day.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Eve.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
You can email the show Jesse at Jesse Kelly show
dot com. Now, as promised, let's discuss because somebody emailed
in and it may sound basic, A lot of it
may be basic, but people don't know the difference between
the House and the Senate, and you know which group
is worse for rhinos and whatnot. Well, first let's discuss this.
(30:21):
The founders of the country. They were obviously obsessed with
ensuring people could be free and would remain free. And
it's easy to pick at the constitution today, Declaration as
the Independence Constitution, all those things, But keep in mind
what a daunting task it is not to create a
(30:43):
government for the moment. To create a government that will last,
you have to create a government that it's not just
good for seventeen seventy six, is this kind of government?
Is it gonna be okay? In eighteen seventy six, In
nineteen seven twenty six. What are we dealing with here?
And one of their challenges was, how do we ensure
(31:08):
smaller states don't get smashed by larger states? Because even
back then there were rich, powerful states like New York.
How do we ensure that smaller states and their desires
don't get trampled by the larger states and their desires,
while at the same time ensuring that the population is
(31:32):
properly represented. And let's pause on this for a moment,
because maybe you're thinking, well, they were all unified back then.
I want you to know something A lot of people
actually don't know this religion, various forms of Christianity. They
were different state to state back then, and I don't
(31:53):
mean small differences. There were Quakers and there were Presbyterians,
and there were multiple So one state would have, you know,
this is their belief system, and the other state would
have this belief system. They did not always get along.
In fact, they were at each other's throats a lot.
From the outside looking in, probably for someone like Chris,
(32:16):
that kind of looks crazy. I don't get it. It's
the Bible, it's Jesus. Why aren't you getting along? And honestly,
I kind of think the same thing lots of times,
but just know that it did matter to them. So
there were big differences, religious differences, a central banking differences,
all kinds of differences back then. How do you set
up a government where the people are represented equally? So
(32:40):
everybody will have a member of the House of Representatives.
He represents so many people, and the small states don't
get stomped by the big states. That that small states
not getting stomped by the big states. That's why they
gave us the Senate. That's why Montana it's the same
(33:00):
number of senators as California. That's why Delaware gets the
same number of senators as New York. When it comes
to the Senate, large or small, the states have equality
with their representation. Now, let's discuss what we talked about
before about how it's so different now than it was then.
(33:21):
Senators get elected how now by vote, by a statewide vote.
So if you want to get elected senator in Arizona,
all the citizens of Arizona will go decide, well, I
want this person to be my senator. That is not
absolutely not how it was supposed to be in this
country before the Seventeenth Amendment. The state legislators, they would
(33:47):
pick a senator to go represent them in Washington. DC
created a completely different type of representation in the Senate.
But let's not talk about what it was. Let's talk
about what it is now. Because you asked, who are
the worse rhyows, what are the different things? Well, you
could probably argue, and Thomas Jefferson would argue this, that
(34:10):
the House is more powerful, at least should be more powerful,
because the House has the power of the purse. It
is the House of Representatives that controls the budget, that
controls everything. That's how it's supposed to work. But the
Senate also has crucial roles to play, crucial roles to
(34:32):
play different different than the power of the purse, but
crucial roles like judges. Those haven't been in the news
at all, right, judges, Yeah, the Senate has to give
the old thumbs up or down on all those judges
who were doing all those terrible things. By the way,
(34:53):
if you want a little light reading that'll make your
head pop off with rage, go read how many Republican
senators voted for these communist judges who are screwing everything
up or skipped the vote entirely, and them skipping the
(35:13):
vote is the reason these communist judges got approved. Anyway,
We're not having time for them. We're not doing that
today because that's just gonna make me angry. Now, you
ask which group of people are the worst rhino wise,
it's always the senators. I know there are bad members
of the House, but I've said this before, I'll say
it again. There is a tiny, relatively tiny cabal of
(35:37):
ten to fifteen GOP senators. Ten to fifteen GOP senators.
They are the ones with their foot in the door,
holding the door open for Democrats to savage this country
like the animals. They are people like James Langford, Mike Rownds,
(35:58):
Bill Cassidy, John Dune, Mitch McConnell, John Corny, I could
go down the list, Curtis, the Lindsay Landy, Graham, all
of them. They are the ones, you know, they'll give
you a little win here and a little win there,
and a little win here and right when we get
to that crucial moment where we can drop the hammer
on communism and stop it boot stop it right then
(36:21):
and there, that's one of those step boh guys, I'm
lnsy Graham. We can't do that. I'd rather bomb. I'd
rather bomb every country on the planet than stop American communism.
The Senate is where the rhinoes are, and that's why
it's so beneficial that we are getting rid of them.
The Tom Tillis's John corn and I believe is going
to lose his primary. In fact, he probably will drop
(36:42):
out ahead of time. Another thing to feel good about. Anyway,
Let's do another hour, Let's do all kinds of stuff.
What would the show be like if Chris left China
in the twenty twenty election.
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