Muslim Brotherhood Designated a Terrorist Group

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Chris Crocketber Jesse Kelly biss is the Jesse Kelly Show.
Continuing on you had Texas Governor Greg Abbott saying that
declaring Care Council American Islamic Relations as a terror organization
as well as the Mother Muslim Brotherhood, and he's right
on both. But I wanted to also talk about the

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President Trump that he also signed an executive order this
afternoon designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a foreign terrorist organization,
and he's exactly correct. Let me share this with you.
Got some analysis from The Free Press, among other publications.
The Free published a story this summer on how the

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Muslim Brotherhood is capturing Europe. They cited a leaked report
by the French Ministry of the Interior which concluded the
Brotherhood strategy is to install a form of ideological hegemony
by infiltrating civil society under the guise of religious and
educational activities. The Institute for the Study of Global Anti

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Semitism Policy says the Muslim Brotherhood appears to be the
intellectual inspiration behind all Islamist groups and the ghee hottest
offshoots that operate today, such as Isis, al Qaida and Hamas.
The institute released another report in November, saying, calling it
the quote the Muslim Brotherhood strategy entryism, strategic entryism into

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the United States. And this is going to sound exactly
like I told you that, Hamas, I'm sorry that the
Holyland Foundation the largest ever terrorism fundraising case in US
history that happened in Dellasforth, Texas in eight nine, two
thousand and two thousand and nine, where an unindoicted co

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conspirator in that case is Care, the consul of American
Islamic Relations. Remember I told you that the FBI DLJ
bugged a room, a hotel room in Boston where Care
meet met with Holyland Foundation people, and Care was talking
about we need to waste a jihad, a non balance
jihad in America, use its laws, use its freedom, to
use the press, to turn this country against itself in

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the name of Islam, of radical Islam. Well, look at
this from the study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy
entitled this study entitled the Muslim Brotherhood Strategy excuse me,
Strategic Entryism into the United States. Quote. This comprehensive study
exposes and examines the Muslim Brotherhood's comprehensive multi generational strategic

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campaign to transform Western society, especially in the United States,
from within through what is known through its own i
should say, through its own internal documents that describe a
civilizational struggle jihad. Unlike conventional terrorist threats, this strategy exploits
democratic freedoms and institutions to advance fundamentally anti democratic objectives,

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representing a sophisticated form of non violent extremism targeting Western democracies.
The think tank also added this the Brotherhood is a
gateway to terrorism, infusing members with the religious doctrines and
hatred that justify violence. The most determined of these members
then form splinter groups or migrate individually to terrorist organization.

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This is it. This is how we save our country
from Islamism and extremism from Islamists. And that's why Trump
was right today this afternoon late to designate the Muslim
Brotherhood as a terrorist organization. Let me share a little
bit more. This is from the New York Post today
reporting on this. They cite a chilling analysis from the

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Institute for the Global Study of Anti Semitism and Policy.
They found the Muslim Brotherhood is half way through its
plan to transform Western society from within quote. We are
now fifty years into the Brotherhood's one hundred year planned
to entrench themselves into key institutions, into the United States
and other Western societies to undermine a destroyer of democracy.

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I told you this in the last hour. I'll say
it again. Europe, I should say, France, Germany and Britain
are gone. They will be Muslim states. They will be
Muslim states. Do not believe me. Look at these statistics yourself,
These humanist, secularist countries who are having one baby if
you're lucky, per couple out of wedlock, most likely sadly,

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versus the Islamic people are having five babies. You already
know this. No go zones, you already know Jews can't
go in certain areas. They're harassed, beaten, god knows what
because they've allowed, for example, Germany with Angela Merkel, allowed
a million Syrian refugees to come into their country, and

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that the terror and the horror that has happened because
of that is is completely overtly resounding. A lot of
the German I heard earlier a couple of weeks ago,
or maybe last month, the German Christmas markets they have there.
I believe they said they're going to shut them down
this year because they cannot keep them open because too
many radical Islamis will plow a car into the middle

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of those Christmas markets or shoot them up. Quote. This
is not simply a political movement, the Institute for the
Global Study of Global Anti Semitism and Policy side in
its report last week. This is not simply a political movement,
but a transnational ideological project that adapts itself to Western
styles while working to undermine them. The Brotherhood has chanced

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a champion strict schurial law, pushed for a caliphate, which
is a government rule by strict Islamic code or Sharia law,
under which women's rights are typically severely restricted, while extreme
forms of punishment abound as its overseers cracked down on
personal freedoms. This is evil treated as cattle. They seek

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to turn us into another Islamic nations. Islamism is rules everything,
and women are treated like cattle, and gays are thrown
off for buildings or killed or stoned, and Jews are
executed summarily, and people like you or me, perhaps as
a Christian, we are forced to convert, or we're killed

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or enslaved globally, the Brotherhood is a gateway to terrorism,
infusing the members with religious doctrines and hatred. That justified violence, says,
the foundation of defense for democracies. So there you have it.
So that's why Donald Trump did this, and that's why
he's right to do it. The Muslim Brotherhood's motto, Allah
is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Qoran

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is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the
way of Allah as our highest hopes. Now, let me
tell you one more thing. I could not believe this,
but it is very true. I had a privilege, the
privilege of interviewing a Jewish scholar who is an expert
on the Holocaust and Islamism and the Holocaust and the

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Nazi Germany and everything in that area. And I learned
a lot when when I talked to him, and after
I talked to him. There was, first of all, the
Muslim Brotherhood, the years that they began and were active.
We're talking the nineteen forties, fifties and sixties and beyond.

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And one of the original people in the Muslim Brotherhood
had a copy of Hitler's mind Kampf and was an admirer,
a very deep admirer of Hitler, and in fact he
helped in aiding there was a Muslim unit that went
in and fought in Nazi Germany and hunted down and
slaughtered Jews. There is no difference. This is evil, this

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is darkness. So they're not just going to come for Jews.
They're going to come for every one of us, and
they're going to make us submit. And thank god, we
have a president who will stand up to this, and
we have in Texas a governor who will stand up
to this. This is extraordinarily important, and I just I

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can't emphasize it enough. We're going to talk to an
expert on this who was actually a Muslim himself, doctor
Zudi Jasser, from the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, coming
up in about twenty three minutes. I can't wait to
talk to him about that. Oh. One more thing that
just broke out this afternoon. Ice is deporting another radical
Islamis and he's being defended by care. I'm sure that

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surprises you. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations and fundraising
for the Muslim American Society. This happens to be in
Dallas Fort Worth, but and this is a front group
for the Brotherhood, the Muslim American Society. He was heading
up for Dallas Fort Worth and the Donald Trump administration

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cuffed him and stuffed him and is deporting him. He's
been overstaying a visa for eleven years. He's literally heading
up the Muslim American Society of Dallas forth hiding in
playing sight as an illegal for over ten years, and
he is literally in a group that is a front
group for the Muslim Brotherhood. The consular American Islamic Relations
stood up and defended him today in all of his

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links that he has to terrorists and such. His brother
in law was convicted for doing business with Comas. Another
in law was convicted of the Holyland Foundation trial that
I told you about. The CARE Executive director for Texas
called this man a pillar of the community. That is
everything you need to know about the Muslim Brotherhood Care
at all. Coming up next to all the latest the

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dances from the Sunday morning shows of the Democrats who
came on that served our country at the time supposedly
honorably now encouraging in its direction, I should say mutiny
within our own military. They are dancing around trying to
explain themselves and gaining their butts handed them to them
by the leftist Sunday shows of all places. That's coming
up next, Chris in for Jesse, Chris Crock and progessee Kelly.

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kr Oka t A. LK. Well, they're doing the dance now.

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They're doing the dance because they with the Trump arrangement syndrome,
decided to go nuts and literally lead troops to do mutiny. Basically,
for example, as you know, in the the one minute,
six second long gathering of different Democrats who've served in
the military, CIA and such, the threats to our constitution,

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they said, aren't just coming from abroad, but right here
at home. The threats to our constitution right here at home.
You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. Well,
when asked about but let's hear what Alyssa Slotkin, who
was one of the people in there she's former CIA. Well,
what illegal orders? Specifically, these are the leftist Sunday morning shows,

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by the way, asking who you are, let's talk right now.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that
are illegal, but certainly.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Wait wait, wait nothing. Did you just say he didn't
do anything illegal.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
My knowledge, I am not aware of things that are illegal,
but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that are going
on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related to Venezuela.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
So you've told us the threats of the constitution. The
constitution are coming from right here at home, and you
can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders. But
now you're telling us no illegal orders have been given.
What it does.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Imply that the president is having illegal orders, which you
have not seen.

Speaker 3 (11:52):
I think for us, it was just a statement widely right,
we say, very quickly and very to all the folks
who come to us, this is the process. Go to
your jag officer, asked them for explanation for.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
Wait wait wait, did you hear in that one minute,
six second video did you hear anything about go to
your jag officer? Because I didn't hear anything. I just
heard them say, you must refuse illegal orders. You can refuge,
you refuse legal refuse legal orders. I didn't hear any
of them say, you go to your jag officer.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
To all the folks who come to us, this is
the process. Go to your jag officer, ask them for explanation,
for top cover, for their view on things. We do
that on a case by case basis, but we wanted
to speak directly to the volumes of people who had
come to us on.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
The volumes of people are everywhere. They're at my door too.
How people can be given ilegal orders? Hew? Hew, they're everywhere.
There's no one there. They just did this to undermine
President Trump. I heard on Fox News this afternoon that
the Department of Justice or whatever the military prosecutor are

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looking into Mark Kelly. They're invest getting him for what
he said and did. And I think that's great. If
he violated the law, he must be prosecuted. You do
not encourage our true Ah Mark I center to remark, Caroly,
I'm a hero. Look at me. I broke my arm,
petty myself on the back. I'm a hero. You must
refuse legal orders right here at home. Threats are coming

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from here we go. We have Jason Crow, who also
served honorably in combat. Here's here he is trying to
do his dance, explaining things away on the Sunday shows
this weekend.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
We wanted to start a conversation and we did about
the dangerous rhetoric this president is using and the threats
that he's made to use our military in an unlawful way.
Because well, send troops into Chicago, send troops into polling stations,
kill terrorists, families, arrest and execute, arrest and execute members
of Congress.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
He has not done those things, she said, even the
leftist meet, he hasn't done those things. Absolute fools, dangerous fools.
Here's Amy Klobachar, who always shakes when she talks. Next
time you see Amy Klobachar speak, just like in this
piece of audio I'm about to play for you. Look
at her hair. It shakes. She's got a shaky problem.

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I don't know what it is, but she's always been shaky,
even since she was doing the debates in the Democrat
nomination process for president. Here you go, I wonder, do
you know what the specific illegal acts are that your
Democratic colleagues were referring to there.

Speaker 5 (14:35):
Well, it's very clear in this code for the military
that you cannot follow on lawful orders, and you know
that would be I'll just use an example. Some of
the judges have now found in certain cities that it
is not legal to send in the National Guard. And
those National Guard members have come home. Some of them
are still there. But if they're a commander, where to

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tell him, hey, go out on the streets and do this,
and that that's not following the order that is in law.
So I just use that example.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Use what example you just said. They were called in
the troops. They were Illinois National Guardsmen, and there were
Texas National Guardsmen that were called in. They were sitting
there at Great Lagus Naval Base in the Chicagoland area,
right on Lake Michigan in the north shore, and they
weren't deployed because of this federal judge, this leftist federal

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judge said you can't deploy them. And Trump didn't disobey
the order from the federal judge. Nobody was set in
the streets and if they were like in Los Angeles,
it was lawful. And if the courts said you can't
do that, the Trump administration sought judicial relief and got it.
There is nothing there and they have no good explanation.
That's why they sound like a fool. Let's hear what

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happened on CNN's Abbey Phillip. It's a wink in a
nod and it's all meant to undermine the president of
United States. The military does not have a right to.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
Under a second in this country. You do get to
undermine the president of the if you if you are
a member of Congress, you absolutely in this country have
a free military commander.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
It's not Congress. It is Congress that is telling some
congressmen and women that are telling the troops to disobey
their commander in chief, which is highly illegal and it
very well may be illegal. In fact, there is a
I should have pulled it up where there's a buddy
of mine who does the show, Eric Erickson, and he

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had a JAG officer call in and literally give the code,
the US code for mutiny, and it literally reads what
they did as mutiny by encouraging these soldiers to disobey,
and mutiny is if convicted, punishab by up to death.
That's just how it is. If you don't want that.

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If you think that's harsh, then don't freaking tell the
troops to disobey their commander in chief when nothing, according
to all of them, has been centered done. That is
tell is illegal period. There are no illegal orders. They're
only speculating, which is wrong. Hey, up next, doctor Zudi Jasser,
who he's a reformist and the Muslim movement and you
must hear him call out CARE and others, Chris crock

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and Jesse County. A very very important man to talk to,
especially when we look at Governor Abbott in the state
of Texas designating the Muslim Brotherhood as a terror organization
and then CARE Council on American Islamic Relations as a
terror organization. We know that today we have reports that
Donald J. Trump is going to designate the Muslim Brotherhood

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as a terror organization. No word on whether CARE will
be added to that list. Doctor Zudi Jasser from the
American he's the founder of the American Islamic Forum for
Democracy ai FD has is joining us right now. Doctor Jasser,
thank you very much for joining us today, sir.

Speaker 6 (17:57):
It's great to be with you. And actually just moments
to go to the assigned the Executive order making the
Muslim Brotherhood a foreign terror organization globally, and to designate
that the domestically and globally, we begin to identify which
chapters are fitting that criteria. So it's a great day
for all of us. Have been working for us for decades.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Now tell me why you've been working at it to
make the Muslim Brotherhood a terror organization in the depths
of that. If you can't, you could do a whole
exposantic but in our short time we have together. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (18:30):
So bottom line is that you know, my family escaped
Syria to come here and be able to practice our
faith more freely than we could in any so called
Muslim country. And this is a very American fight. Our
founding fathers fought against deocracy, the theocrats, and the Muslim world.
The sunny side are the Muslim Brotherhood, the Shia side
or the Hominis Nahran. Bottom line is that they think
that they are God. They don't believe in rule by

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human elections and democracy. They believe in rule by interpretation
of their scripture, their interpretation of scripture rather than personal ones.
And this is why it's a very American fight and
the only, the only antidote to political Islam or Islamism
is Americanism. And I think this is finally we have
an offense. We've been playing defense. I was on the

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US Commission on International Religious Freedom for four years, appointed
by Senator McConnell. In twenty thirteen, we went to Egypt.
I met with the Brotherhood and they were running Egypt,
and they were allowing churches to be burned down and
other savages against other minorities in Egypt. And it was
a clearly operating like a terror organization. And yet the

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toughest meeting I had was with President Obama's appointee, Ambassador Patterson,
who was telling me they're democratically elected, they are not terrorists,
and this is what the people have chosen. That Hamas
was democratically elected, and they're still a terror organization on
our genicidal And sure enough we see October seven, twenty
three what Hamas did. They are a branch of the Brotherhood.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
Also, so there's no question that Governor Abbit in Texas
is right to designate the Brotherhood as a terror organization
as well as Donald J. Trump tell me about care
because Governor Abbot labeled them as a terror organization, should
President Trump also label the CARE as a radical Islamic organization,

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the terror organization, and why.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well, you know, I look ahet it like we did
in the Cold War. We were fighting the Soviets, and
clearly the folks that were working with the Soviet regime
were our enemy and the threat to the West. There
were other communist groups around the world that might not
have been Soviet sympathizers are directly working for them, but
they were sympathized with communism. CARE is an Islamist group.

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They're founding. Document under FBI a wiretap in nineteen ninety
one demonstrated that they were of hamas founding in ninety one,
and ultimately they said they were going to use the
Palestinian issue to form a group. They initially started as
an Islamic Association for Palestine and then morphed into CARE.

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The Holy Land Foundation trial in Texas back in two
thousand and eight and then in two thousand and nine
convicted six board members of going to providing funneling money
to HUMAF, and they ultimately shut down the Holy Land
Foundation and those board members went to prison. CARE was
identified as an unindicted co conspirator and they tried to

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have that identification removed through court action years later, and
they failed because they were part of that adjacent network,
if you will. Now, should we go far enough to
say that they're an FTO foreign terror group, we still
need evidence. I'd love to see the evidence of what
the governor has on that. But bottom line is, they

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certainly should be part of the, if you will, radioactive
nature of these Islamist groups that are a threat and
certainly not all about civil rights like they claimed to be.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Governor I pointed to a federal court finding can CARE
to Hamas, including a two thousand and nine Supreme Court
ruling finding that was ample evidence. I think this is
what you're talking about, trying to go to court to
get a thrown out. Supreme Court found there was ample
evidence of CARES association with the Foreign Terrorist Organization HAMAS,
citing a report leging that CARE had recently provided cash
grants to college students discipline for pro Hamas disruptions. Any

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further thoughts on.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
That, Yeah, not only those campus students, did they funnel
that money to give them financing for disruptions and slowing
and preventing Jewish students from getting to their prayer services.
On Friday, as we saw across campuses. But the Students
for Justice and Palestine, which is another organization similar to

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CARE that CARE worked with, had on their website endorsements
of October seven, saying that it was about Palestinian rights, etc.
And that we've been calling for exposure as definite support
of material support of terrorism. So there are many aspects
to it. All I can tell you is God bless
the governor for finally beginning to shine light on this.

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And whether they're a terror group or a sympathize group,
it's time to expend because they've never countered the Brotherhood.
They've never expressed that the Brotherhood is not American and
its ideology is not free. It's been the font of terrorism.
So they can be as apoplectic as they want to
be about the designation, but the bottom line is is

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at the minimum, they're sympathizers with the Muslim Brotherhood Hamas
and terror groups that give Muslims not only a bad name,
but our corruption at the core of our faith community.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Doctor Sue Jasser, founder of the American Islamic Form for Democracy,
how Towad, the head of CARE after October seventh, the
terror attack, said he was happy. I mean, I've got
the audio, but I'm sure you've heard it over and
over again. I was happy, he said, to see the
people of Gaza break the siege on October seventh. They
were victorious. The people of Gaza have the right to

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self defense. Israel does not. Did that surprise you that
you shouldn't say that, not at all.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
They have been multiple times had opportunities to condemn law,
to condemn Hamas. After nine to eleven they were asked
to condemn al Qaida's movements, and they complained about conspiracy
theories and said they didn't do it, And ultimately they
invoked every conspiracy theory and anti Semitic comments they could,
and yet they couldn't get themselves to take any type

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of ownership and responsibility for the fact that our faith
community produced these groups, these radical groups, and begin to
counter it and join our Muslim reform movement to look
at the theocratic ideas that in a very American way
need to be reformed and defeated, so that women have
a right to their own bodily autonomy, so that faith
minorities have a right to religious freedoms that they have

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in their communities, but instead, they constantly invoked identity politics
and excuses, and those excuses actually fueled radicalization. And we said,
you know what, when I worked with Peter king in
in New York City about defending the NYPD, they constantly,
they constantly said that they were the victims. And I said,

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you know what, After they radicalized Muslims, they're going to
come for the left. And we saw it. The Democratic
Party now has been run by nihilists, far extremists, and
that radicalization is the same type of radicalization that countenances
of violence and terrorism, whether it's Antifa or humas. And
we saw in the during COVID the BLM folks were

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going through towns destroying shopping centers and destroying businesses in
the name of freedom, in the name of rights against
the police. In fact, it was anarchy against law and order.
And that's what terrorism is. It's it's the ends justifies
the means. It's a lack of a moral compass and
care has never has never spoken against these groups. To them,

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the West can do no good and Islamic communities can
do no bad. And that type of extremism is not
what I think is the future of reform in our community.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Doctor Jesser. They also talk about a one hundred year
plan for the Muslim Brotherhood to wig jihad inside of
free countries like ours, to take our rights and the
media and use it against us.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
This is what the FBI and the Department of Justice
revealed in when they bugged a hotel room in Boston
with care and Undelico conspirator. As you said in the
Holy Land Foundation and others in that room talking about this,
is this what you understand to be true too, that
the Muslim Brotherhood care use our freedoms and our laws

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and our media to wage a non violence jehad against
us in this country and against our country.

Speaker 6 (26:41):
Political islam theocracy, Islamic theocracy would be it in enclaves
like they're trying to do in East Plano, Islamic Center
in Epic, or they you know do globally through governments
like Kuttar and Turkey. That our Islamic Brotherhood type ideologues
Al Jazeera It's sixty million Arabs that watch it and
listen to it today are basically anti Western, anti Israel,

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anti Semitic. Those ideologies are all different parts of the
fronts of the war against the West. The biggest threat
to them for Islamic governance is liberty and Western democracy.
Communism is in a threat because Muslims reject that. Typically,
Russia is not a threat. The biggest threat is Western
freedom and their ideologues that founded the Brotherhood in the

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early twentieth century say it that wrote a book called
the Milestones, in which he talked about milestones along the
way in which we will defeat the West. He said,
I wrote a book called the Battle for the Soul
of Islam, and I've highlighted in it all of the
different interpretations of the Qoran that can be modernized for
Western thinking that should be celebrated instead of the monolithic

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interpretation of the Qoran that is theocratic that comes from
the hobbies of Saudi Arabia to the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt.
So ultimately, these are the ideas that we have to counter.
I debated this in Oxford in October twenty four and
people can look up that ten minute speech and just
see how I said. You know, the Islam of today
is not compatible with democracy, but it can be, just

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as Western Christianity took seventeen hundred and eighty nine years
until there was a governance, governing system that was compatible
with democracy based on Jesus's message, and I think similarly
Islam can have that in the future, but it has
nowhere in the planet where it is today, and the
Muslim brother has been the biggest obstacle to that in

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association with various dictatorships across the Middle East.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
We'll hear more from doctor Jasser coming up next on
the Jesse Kelly Show. Beac with doctor Zudi Jasser, founder
of the American Islamic Warm for Democracy, on the Jesse
Kelly Show. Two more quick questions, Doctor Judy Jasser, I'm
grateful for your time. Marwan Marouf, director of public relations
for Muslim American Society of Dallas Fort Worth, has just
been cuffed and stuffed in these They're going to deport

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him for many things, including lack of attal, valid entry document,
solicitation of funds for a terrorist organization, material support of
terrorism donations that he has made according to authorities for
Hamas Funk Group, Holy Land Foundation, Muslim Holy Foundation, which
we talked about. So I'm not sure if you're aware
of him from its incession, the Holy Foundation existed to

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support Hamas reads the Department of justice when that case
went down, So in the Heroo Care, which has numerous
links to terror. This report from the Dallas Express says
Today called for Maroof's release soon after his arrest in September.
Not sure if you know him, but they say he's
an active leader of the Muslim American Society of Dallas.
Fort Worth Prosecutes alleged he founded that as an overt

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I was founded as an overt armed to the Muslim
Brotherhood in the United States of America. Thoughts comments on
that one.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
Yeah, you know, listen, folks that are here. I don't
know him personally or have been in contact with his
work at all. But the Muslim American Society the MAAS.
The Chicago Tribune had a six part series about how
its chapters are basically the embodiment of the Muslim Brotherhood
in America and that they ultimately if you look at
their back, if you look at their constitutions and bylaws,

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it looks like it comes right out of the Muslim
Brotherhood in Egypt, where it talks about how to indoctrinate
youth and use what we call in Arabic tavilla programs, etc.
So the MAAS is actually even closer to the left
ventricle of the heart of the Muslim Brotherhood than even
the Council on American Islamic Relations, which really more came
out of Hamas. So bottom line is it's all the

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same different types of toxins that are not compatible with
our democracy if people are here on visa or here
as you know, trying to get citizenship. I think there
have been many cases that Secretary of Rubio has highlighted
that you know what, our citizens have free speech, they
have constitutional protection. But people here on visas are hereby privilege,
so they don't have a right to come here and

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attack our system of governance, to basically sow countenance for
violence and other things. So no, I completely believe that
this is why this XTO designation for the Brotherhood is
so important, because it will allow us as Muslims to
begin to be better advocates for Americanism and begin to

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marginalize these voices of extremism and anti Americanism that exists
in so many Islamic identity groups and even in many
mosques that countenance this radicalization.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
And here's care the executive director for Texas calling this
man who headed up the muslimer moss Mas of Dell's
fourth a pillar of the community shocker. One last thing
I wanted to ask you about doctor Zuli Jaster. While
we have you, I'm grateful for your time. Is the
new mayor of New York City. The incoming mayor of
New York City's Ormondami. I think he's an Islamist and

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a Marxist communist. What do you think about him? And
where do you think his thoughts lie as far as
Islam and Islamism, Well in.

Speaker 6 (32:00):
The tree, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
His father is a radical, far left extremist professor in
Columbia that compared that said Abraham Lincoln was worse than
Adolf Hitler. So this is the type of ideology of
what he feels about America. Mamdani a week before he
got elected, went and shook the hands and hugged Animam

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by the name of Sadaj Wahaj and Imam. That is
highlighted in my book A Battle for the Soul of Islam.
I went to one meeting of the largest Muslim brotherhood
organization in America called the Islamic Society of North America
in ninety five that Imam gave the keynote address. He
held up the Quran and said, it is our role
as Muslims to change the constitution and put into its

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place the Quran as the guiding constitution of this country.
I went to the microphone within minutes in which he
finished one of the q and a microphones and said,
whoever's here that works for the government or believes in
our constitution, you should resigning me imediately. This is a
seditious organization. And the Iman what he just said, he
has the right to disagree with policy, but what he

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said is sedition and said Ajwahas thirty years later is
hugging Mamdani and his kids, by the way, were arrested
in a terror plot in New Mexico. So this guy
is one degree of separation from multiple organizations and radicalisms
that are related to terrorism, and yet he continues to
be sort of like the icon representative of Muslims in

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Mamdani hugs them with no filter. So, yeah, Mamdani is
an Islamist. He works closely with them, and he's a
socialist also, so the aocs of the world, the ilhan Omars,
the Mamdanis are working with the red green axis, no
different than the Irans of the world. Are working with
the Venezuelas and the Chinas.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yep, doctor Suggester, if people could want to follow you
on Twitter or your books, tell us where we can
follow you and what books we can get from you
and how we can find you.

Speaker 6 (34:00):
Yeah, please follow me on Twitter at doctor Zudi Jasser
d R v U H D I J A S
S E R. And our website is Ais Democracy dot org,
ais Democracy dot org and actually I co chair a
coalition called the Clarity Coalition Claritycoalition dot org. Clarity stands
for champions for liberty against the reality of Islamist tyranny.

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And my book is a Battle for the Soul of Islam,
The Battle for the Soul of Islam.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Doctor Zudi Jasser, the president and founder of the American
Islamic Forum for Democracy. Thank you and God bless you,
my friend. We appreciate you joining us today. That was
doctor Zudi Jasser, President and founder of the American Islamic
Forum for Democracy.